First Time Watching ALL of Star Trek - Episode 170: Yesterday's Enterprise (TNG S3E15)

[@targetaudience]

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[@seanbumstead1250]

What if worf is on one of the Klingon ships 😮

[@GopherBaroque61]

Josh, you are 100% correct about those few who dislike TOS, but love TNG. Those are *_usually_* the ones who grew up watching TNG and *_then_* went back to watch TOS. Which makes me appreciate the way both of you are choosing to watch Star Trek in Release order.

[@tobbiecassin]

The show didn't truly start until Worf tried prune juice

[@DarrenBenfer]

The best opening of the entire series imo

[@ammaleslie509]

"Drink the prune juice" can be a new saying for the opposite of "jump the shark"

[@pokes404]

@@DarrenBenfer It's almost unfair that an episode that's already this good also has such a great/iconic character moment that isn't related to the plot. Even the unessential, throwaway moments are legendary in this episode.

[@RoToRa]

@@ammaleslie509 There is already the trope "growing a beard" for that.

[@garr_inc]

@@RoToRa Guess where it came from.

[@Polymathically]

And that, kids, is how you redeem a pointless, meaningless death. Watching this episode when it originally aired was a magical experience. No one ever expected Tasha Yar to come back, let alone her being involved in something that drastically altered the timeline. High stakes, iconic quotes, great character moments and set designs... Yesterday's Enterprise has everything.

[@ObsidianBlk]

@@JeremyClark-wu6eb I agree... and more brutal, if you think about it, than what originally killed her.

[@silikon2]

@@ObsidianBlkYou two should delete those posts. Oilerishspay.

[@karidrgn]

​@JeremyClark-wu6eb please delete your post.

[@starfleetcaptain5413]

The crew of the Enterprise-C sacrificed themselves for the future and the crew of the Enterprise-D sacrificed themselves to help them do it. One of the finest episodes television ever produced.

[@Jerkwad152]

The parallels between the C and D were great. The D was in a fight it couldn't win because it was crippled by having to protect the C. The C was in a fight it couldn't win because it was crippled by having to protect Narendra III.

[@Capital_Ideas1]

It was needless. These ships would be fully automated.

[@DiggerTheDwarf]

@@Capital_Ideas1 Except they clearly aren't, so I'm not really sure what your point is. :/

[@pokes404]

"Let's make sure history never forgets the name ... Enterprise." One of my favorite moments in the whole franchise. "Enterprise" isn't just a ship, but a fraternity in his statement. History may never know what the crew of the Ent-D did, but by getting the Ent-C home, history will remember their name.

[@SpectacleDifficulty]

the non-climactic ending is brilliant. it emphasizes how completely the timeline was shifted back. and the moment with Guinan asking about Tasha is a beautiful memorial.

[@greenbrown7776]

Agreed.

[@rhaedas9085]

Exactly, Dragging it out to show transition for everyone would be insulting to the viewer, at this pint we get it. It worked. Having Worf be conveniently on one of the ships would be heavy-handed too. It makes it more realistic to not see everything, and let the viewer work out the rest or speculate.

[@Gankhisprawn]

@@rhaedas9085 Exactly. This aspect of storytelling is all but absent from modern programming. Actions and important events, you show. Smaller details, you can leave to the viewer's imagination. The art of knowing what to show and what not to is becoming lost.

[@Gregory11811]

Plus not seeing the ending to this episode leads to [SPOILER] and [SPOILER], which leads to [SPOILER].

[@rhaedas9085]

@@Gregory11811 Points as well. Here is probably where TNG and Star Trek in general becomes more interconnected with each episode's plot. Not all of them, still a few on their own, but there is much more of a bigger story going on from here on out.

[@Alterator76]

Something I didn't pick up on until recently - it's obvious that Picard & Riker don't get along that much here. But Picard never calls him "Number One", simply "Commander". They have no real connection here.

[@shinyagumon7015]

I like to imagine that in this Universe he get saddled with Riker because no one wants such a opinionated First Officer in wartime.

[@mjbull5156]

Perhaps Troi smooths over their relationship in the standard timeliness, and she is not on Battleship Enterprise.

[@jsharp3165]

Riker may have replaced a KIA first officer and Picard may have subconscious resentment toward him.

[@aaronwells6608]

Picard has spent basically his entire Starfleet career at war. He needs to not be attached to people and especially needs that command distance.

[@willvgo2950]

@@shinyagumon7015 I think that in this situation, Riker would have been ordered into, not just offered, a command of his own. His combat proficiency would have been needed.

[@TheElderBlotch]

Patrick Stewart was on another level on this episode. Great reactions to a legendary episode guys, your minds getting blown by the opening hook alone was awesome!

[@evenAndre]

I like Red Letter Media's take on this episode. "It's like a full movie they somehow crammed into 45 min". It's so brilliant efficient storytelling, it blows my mind.

[@greenbrown7776]

Not a single word or moment wasted. Strunk & White would be proud.

[@Real_LiamOBryan]

@@greenbrown7776 Do people even know Strunk and White besides us nerds?

[@MikeJF85]

Ron Moore once said that he was kinda sad that they'd done Yesterday's Enterprise just because they would've done something similar for Generations if it hadn't already happened. (although presumably the D's crew wouldn't have been changed with the rest of the timeline)

[@ianjohns9398]

​@@Real_LiamOBryanwell it's not Strunk, and White without a superfluous Oxford comma

[@Real_LiamOBryan]

​@@ianjohns9398 Hey! You watch it. I will have no disrespect of the Oxford comma.

[@XRos28]

"Not good enough, damn it! Not good enough!" And "Let's make sure history never forgets the name... Enterprise." are two of the best Picard lines I remembered VIVIDLY from the original air time of the show. Amazing! One of the most praised episodes of the show altogether.

[@harrysarai3947]

spoliers..................................................................s3 ep 24, has a nice speech by Sir Patrick Stewart. 1 cowriter of that episode and the name of that episode is a real life ," too much information" and " ok thats weird", moment.

[@JohnSmith-wl8ts]

great episode, Picard - "that'll be the day" you could tell he enjoyed that

[@toddjh]

Since Worf wasn't going to be in the bulk of the episode, I really appreciate that the writers gave Michael Dorn such a fun scene in the cold open to make up for it. We hardly ever get to see Worf completely relaxed and comfortable with himself.

[@OpenMawProductions]

The contrast of his absence is absolutely intended.

[@jamessatter7418]

Kudos for remembering Dr. Selar!

[@targetaudience]

Us forget a character name? Never!

[@robslack5468]

Suzie made a super sexy Vulcan, no lie

[@jamessatter7418]

I dig that you even spotted Wesley in full uniform in the alternate timeline!

[@silikon2]

It's a hint that things aren't going well in the war that at his age he was fast tracked into being an officer.

[@kathyastrom1315]

@@silikon2 He wouldn’t have been brought onto the Enterprise with his mom, so he would have had to get there on his own. I think that he was fast-tracked through school and Starfleet Academy and was assigned to the Enterprise as an ensign out of the Academy.

[@mjbull5156]

An interesting take on a time paradox where our heroes are in the timeline being affected rather than the ones causing the change.

[@tjkhanks]

I agree. I'm not sure if I've ever seen another show that has done that, but no one's done it this good.

[@harrysarai3947]

@@tjkhanks spoilers.................the krenim Imperium did it, but it was no where near this good.

[@tjkhanks]

@@harrysarai3947 Krenim Imperium.... is that from Farscape? I'm sad to say I've not seen that series. 😕

[@harrysarai3947]

@@tjkhanks ...............spoilers......... .........no, it's from StarTrek Voyager. from the episode with the guy from RoboCop/That 70's show.

[@seanbumstead1250]

One of the best if not the best episode of TNG

[@kerry-j4m]

AGREED.

[@maxshenkwrites]

I only rank one episode ahead of it, and in my all-time all-TREK list (every episode of every series up to SNW), it's in my top five.

[@cashflowhustles]

And with this statement I would heartily agree.

[@jowbloe3673]

Definitely one of the best, but not THE best, imo. They have some better episodes to look forward to, and I am looking forward to those reactions (patience is a virtue).

[@jimt6498]

Def in the top 5 of TNG.

[@williampilling2168]

There is a Star Trek IV reference in this. Over the PA, you hear someone being asked to report to Cetacean Ops, meaning the Enterprise has whales on board.

[@dadrock4409]

In The Official Enterprise Technical Guide book (I think that’s what it was called) you can see the whale tank in the Enterprise D blueprint schematic that is used often in the show.

[@thewinner7382]

I believe it is again references in "The Perfect Mate"?

[@harrysarai3947]

@@thewinner7382 spoilers.............................................................................thats a good episode Jean Grey's and Xavier's first meeting

[@williampilling2168]

@@thewinner7382 Geordi asks if she has seen the dolphins.

[@silikon2]

Enormous blooper: at the end with Geordi in Ten Forward, he's wearing the alternate uniform. People read a lot into it, but it was just a blooper.

[@amicooke1790]

Just the sleeve cuffs. The collar was the standard one.

[@atrus3823]

“Warrior’s drink” is probably my favourite line of the series.

[@ShamrockParticle]

I'll stick with Metamucil 😂

[@Xerxes2005]

@@ShamrockParticle The Pakleds love it. "It will make us go..."

[@ninja_tony]

@@atrus3823 it’s great, but my favorite Worf line will always be, “I am NOT a merry man!” 😂

[@EricTheSaylorman]

The chill that went down my spine when Geordi says, "Who knows if we're dead or alive?" and the cut to Tasha overhearing that. Bravo!

[@willvgo2950]

another take on LaForge being awkward with women

[@qam2024]

It would have been terrible if Geordi said "I hope I am still with my wife and kids in the other timeline"

[@EricTheSaylorman]

@busimagen sorry, I'm not a cinematography expert, so excuse my incorrect wording, but the same emotional feeling applies regardless of the filmmaking terminology.

[@EricTheSaylorman]

@@qam2024 now that would have been dark! LOL

[@lsmit6121]

Here's a minor detail of this episode that I greatly appreciated: Picard asks Data, "How long before the Enterprise C enters the rift?", and Data responds, "52 seconds, sir." When I was first watching this, I started counting then, and the timing was perfect - the Enterprise C entered the rift exactly 52 seconds later. It always bothers me when a show or movie gives an exact timing until something is supposed to happen and then the scene doesn't hold to the countdown. I loved the precision that this episode gave us with that.

[@Sinocthehodgeheg]

Great episode, great reaction. Love how uncomfortable Picard is in a war timeline - no friendliness with officers, making mistakes, quick to anger. Subtle changes but noticeable.

[@paul_andrews]

Riker seemed constantly annoyed at Picard too. Perhaps there was some exposition they dropped due to runtime.

[@kerry-j4m]

Did you notice in the different time-line how crowded the Enterprise is ??? Halls are filled with crew members,Ten-Forward and the bridge also. Wish SNW had episodes like this.

[@maxshenkwrites]

@@kerry-j4m Uhhhhh... have you seen "A Quality of Mercy"?

[@Zikar]

@@kerry-j4m My guess is that they needed a higher crew compliment, soldiers, for boarding parties, military action on planets etc and making sure they have enough replacements any time someone is killed. By comparison the D in our timeline is very empty because it's meant to be ready to receive large diplomatic groups at any time.

[@rhaedas9085]

@@paul_andrews I like to think that they still respect each other as officers and abilities, but they have never had a chance to become friends since there's a war. They clashed a bit in the first episode since they have different styles, so it makes sense to carry that further in a different environment.

[@SPVFilmsLtd]

"I wish it was lit like this all the time" Careful what you wish for..... 30 years of submarine-lighting on STAR TREK has nearly all of us hankering for the lovely five star hotel-in-space vibes of TNG

[@DarrenBenfer]

Cries in Discovery

[@greenbrown7776]

Yes!

[@miguelvelez7221]

The change in cinematography in season three is something that I thinks help to distinguish TNG era Trek. And yeah, compared to so much sci Fi, including Trek going with a Star Wars, gun metal gray aesthetic for ships and general settings the past thirty plus years, I am glad TNG is so bright and the production design for the Big D isn't going for "efficiency" but to be open, bright and "home" like.

[@martinbraun1211]

There are still so many great episodes to come. I can't wait to see your reactions to these. 😄👍

[@more-reasons6655]

Just the best 45 minutes of Star Trek to ever grace our screens, absolute perfection and shows the perfect example of "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

[@maxshenkwrites]

It's in my all-time all-TREK top five, and while I don't rank it # 1, I would never argue with anyone who ranked it there.

[@greenbrown7776]

@@maxshenkwrites / Same!

[@rhaedas9085]

@@maxshenkwrites I never rank things like this, it's just a lot of them go into the pile marked "Excellent".

[@sinimsdp]

After he starts the prune juice, Worf becomes an unstoppable fighter. Nothing can block him.

[@Choalith_Ikanthe]

And somewhere, a Ferengi is laughing. Briefly.

[@Lans32485]

Too bad it gave him a weakness to barrels.

[@joepolymath2308]

I *knew* you guys were gonna jump out of your seats when Tasha first appeared. PS: this will NOT be the only time you jump out of your seats for the rest of season 3.

[@belkyhernandez8281]

No hints.

[@joepolymath2308]

@@belkyhernandez8281 None given.

[@harrysarai3947]

@@belkyhernandez8281 Spoilers..............................hints like Jakes mom dies soon

[@VieVentar]

I love that they gave Picard a classic Nelsonian style line before the battle. "Ensure every man does his duty" "Lets make sure History never forgets the name Enterprise" Even in a wartorn awful timeline, the speech making ability remains intact. Just coloured differently by his alternate life experience.

[@clearsmashdrop5829]

Lighting, crew carrying sidearms, overhead speakers calling crew, a busy bustling 10 Foward.... all nice details.

[@TheWrongHands18]

Congratulations! You hit the series turning point. One of the best episodes off the series. The surprises from this episode don’t end here…

[@HopemanGG]

07:05 Blasphemy! The bright lighting is appreciated and fits the more positive outlook on the future. Every other show is dimly lit. We don't need another. D:

[@mothbreeder641]

Yeah, nu-Treks might as well just be every other modern sci-fi show. Soulless and generic.

[@voxdraconia4035]

They might like Bab5 then ... well, who does not except silly Sheldon Cooper?

[@OptionZero]

Patrick Stewart was spittin’ banger line after banger line History did remember the name….Enterprise

[@brendandax]

Been waiting for this for so long! My highlights: - The harsher streak in Picard: a weary wartime captain. Notice Riker is always addressed by rank. - The lighting & score - Captain Garrett actress Tricia O'Neil - Denise! Other deaths were planned (or recorded and cut) incl Data being electrocuted. My one niggle: I know the D was protecting the C but the visuals are not in line with an epic fight [one where history should never forget the name Enterprise...] It's just sitting there taking a pounding. But what an incredible episode.

[@wyrmshadow4374]

Yes, the effects were cheap. They made the BoP over powered but slow and made the Enterprise a glass cannon.

[@Gankhisprawn]

@@wyrmshadow4374 The reason for the BoP being OP but slow is that those are the larger and much more powerful K'Vort class battlecruisers. The smaller scout Bird of Prey is called the B'rel class, and that's the one from Star Trek 3, 5, and 6.

[@SoupSultan]

This episode is in my top 5. It’s so damn good, both for what it is and for what it sets up for the future.

[@NerdydanDotCom]

"The war is not going well for the Federation" Gives me chills every time.

[@NerdydanDotCom]

Did you catch how they gave them a pasting at archer 4 in the other timeline, but then they were going there in the regular one?

[@NerdydanDotCom]

I can't wait for y'all to get to Seasons 4 and 5.... But this was one of my favorite episodes.

[@MichaelJShaffer]

Geordi being in the alternate timeline uniform at the end with Guinan was always funny to me.

[@botz77]

This is probably my favorite episode of the entire series. This or the series finale.

[@maxshenkwrites]

Agreed. Hard to pick which one is tops.

[@jeffeffa78]

Reliving the Tasha reveal through you guys is just exquisite. Thank You. 😊 Good job to the fan base for not ruining it for you.

[@greenbrown7776]

I'm truly amazed this did not get ruined for them. There sure were enough half-hints and such dropped for them. Maybe the TA assistants are steering J&A away from the spoilers.

[@harrysarai3947]

i like hints that people who havnt seen the show wont get. like soon the Jennifer thing is going to happen, to them who is Jennifer,. to us it's oh Jakes Mom, then now it's who TF is Jake?

[@5ilver42]

I think this is the first episode since Mirror Mirror where we have the regular cast play a different character. While, yes, they are still them, with 22 years of different galactic history we can also say that they are not the same person. Beyond the potential for crazy good scripts I think the idea also allows the cast to have fun doing something that is outside of the norm for them in the series.

[@harrysarai3947]

it is not. Picard on the Holodeck (henry V play) with Data during The Defector. Stewart was playing 2 different characters in that scene, he was Picard and a person around the camp fire. and DataLore, Spiner played Data and Lore. there is also the Troi's marriage box with the taking face, that person played the first ferengi in "The Last Outpost". and Majel Barrett-Roddenberry was #1, Nurse Chapple in TOS and Troi's mom and the computer voice.

[@5ilver42]

@@harrysarai3947 Individually, for a scene or two, sure. I meant as an ensemble, for the whole episode. Trek has more episodes where everyone plays a different person, most often it is "everyone minus one", with the one being our fish-out-of-water perspective character.

[@majkus]

Without a doubt, the most eventful and intriguing teaser segment ever. Prune juice, an anomaly, a shift to an alternative universe, Tasha, and ending with Enterprise C.

[@vincejaramillo1271]

This is one of my very favorite episodes of TNG.

[@jpotter2086]

Been watching this series and this episode in particular and am always amazed that they fit a feature film into this runtime, and the pacing feels perfect. SO much happens, yet it doesn't feel rushed. A perfect piece of writing. The procustion is also strikingly cinematic. A huge leap from "typical" episodes. "What? Childern on the Enterprise?!?" ... it took a nightmare to make Picard's dream come true! :D

[@greenbrown7776]

Every word. Every moment of every scene put to great use.

[@BuddyHoyt]

Now THAT is one of the BEST episodes of the series!! You guys have officially leveled up to top tier TNG! Congrats!!!

[@ficialintelligence1869]

Again, it's a joy watching you experience these episodes for the first time. And yes, we knew you were going to LOVE this one. Hold on to your hats, there's three more that you will be your top pics for this season.

[@chaseforliberty]

Now we start cooking. This is in my personal top 10 TNG episodes of all time.

[@personzorz]

It was part of the top five viewers choice marathon when the series concluded.

[@bahrsoap73]

I remember watching this episode as a kid and being so scared when Picard talked about the war with the Klingons going so badly.

[@philly83]

The original design of the Enterprise -C is one of the models that is normally in the observation lounge. There were issues with them not being able to build a shooting model in time for the episode so they had to have another design for filming which is drastically different.

[@Stay_at_home_Astronaut81]

I always thought it was funny, that Geordi was still wearing his alternate universe uniform at the end of the episode, while he was talking to Guinan. Minor oversight. 😆

[@airmaildolphin7013]

Imagine if this had been done as one of the TNG movies. Damn, would have been awesome! I remember hearing a story that Jonathan Frakes said at a Star Trek convention that he had a dinner party to attend after they filmed his "death" scene and he didn't have a chance to get out of makeup. When he arrived they were so worried for him because of the neck wound! They thought he had gotten into a car accident on the way to the party!

[@amicooke1790]

Nobody could touch Michael Westmore when it came to convincing makeup.

[@mjbull5156]

The Alternate Picard's rousing speech takes on an interesting note that no one will remember what the crew of that version of Enterprise-D did, as history says that Enterprise-C was lost with all hands.

[@hagbardceline7118]

This is my favorite tng episode.

[@scgreek1114]

Definitely a favorite. Some of the best acting from all of the cast members, especially Denise Crosby. It's not "Mirror Mirror," it's "City on the Edge of Forever."

[@AwakeningComics]

The one we've been waiting for, biting our tongues! The thumbnail image looked pretty much just like I thought it would!

[@ericmartin3521]

I love how you guys come out of your chairs when unexpected things happen.

[@bradbarter8314]

One thing that I never realized and was pointed out by another reaction was that apparently the Enterprise Bridge is cobbled together by stones as the explosions on both ships today resulted in small stones rolling across the floor. Also you guys should checkout the bloopers from this episode as Castillo when he tells Tasha he would prefer if she called him Richard like his mother, got Denise laughing hysterically when instead of saying Richard said, "nah, I think I'd prefer it if you called me Dick!" She then smacked his arm as she almost fell over laughing, it's a great scene I watched over and over again.

[@uclagymnastx-ing]

Yesterday's Enterprise, today! Yes!!!

[@chrisfraser5088]

Aaaaaaand….here we go! 😃 One of the best TNG episodes! Certainly a massive fan favourite. TNG really cooking now!

[@TimelyAbyss]

My only criticism about this episode is that it should have been a two parter because, as you said, once it starts all you want is more.

[@greenbrown7776]

Better to leave them with wanting more than wishing they had seen less. But yes, I wanted more too.

[@frakking]

Ira Steven Behr recently revealed in a podcast that the writers wanted to write scenes where each of the major characters died, but the producers nixed the idea.

[@ShamrockParticle]

Pillar, Behr, Moore, and so many really elevated TNG in this third season ❤

[@ErisRising]

To me, this is the first truly great episode of the show. There had been good ones before, but this was the first to take full advantage of both the talented cast and the rich setting.

[@greenbrown7776]

For me, it was "Measure of a Man." But I do get what you're saying. This episode is EPIC.

[@PhoenixFlamezz]

Just a small detail, but I had never noticed that Picard only refers to Riker as commander and not number 1.

[@FireDragons42]

This is the episode we have all been waiting for you to watch since Tasha died in season 1. That transition from Worf to Picard, and then the shift revealing Tasha where Worf once was. We all knew you would shout at that moment. And one of my favourite lines in the series, "Let's make sure that history never forgets the name Enterprise."

[@rburton76]

I can’t tell you how happy I am that Tasha wasn’t spoiled for you. Loved that reaction to seeing her.

[@RetroRobotRadio]

Worf was saved by Starfleet officers when he was a child... So in this universe he probably was never saved.

[@TopGunZero]

@@jkhoover Don't think you're understanding the timeline.

[@TopGunZero]

@@jkhoover I love how someone can say they understand the timeline and then prove that they don't... Worf is rescued in 2346. The Enterprise-C is destroyed in 2344. The entire point of Worf's character not being in the episode is that he was never rescued by the federation and thus never joins starfleet and is never assigned to the enterprise.

[@marcharkness6101]

In this timeline, the Romulans may not have raided Khitomer, with the Klingons going to WAR with the Federation.

[@ShadowStoryteller]

I only recently started watching you guys, but this episode has some interesting stuff. Wesley was supposed to be seen burnt to a crisp, Data was supposed to be non-functional via electrocution and Worf was supposed to be the Commander of the Klingon Battle Group but they didn't have enough time or cash to create all of this. I'm not going to reveal where the money went...just that it is well spent. No spoilers.

[@bervil]

Oh man I have been itching for you guys to get to this one! The wait was killing me!

[@johnkirwan7205]

Thats almost exactly how I thought you guys would react when Tasha appears 😂

[@jasoncaldwell5627]

The model for the Enterprise C (Ambassador class) is a thing of beauty. You guys should Google it compared with the Enterprise D- it's a perfect design stepping stone between the more militaristic look of the TOS movies towards the start of TNG, where there's no hard edges on anything and the ship is this spacious place to serve.

[@dankeefer8859]

This is about as close to perfect as an episode can get IMO. This is my favorite time travel story not just in Trek but all of TV. Like I can't even fully say why right now because..... I'm trying not to spoil anything but I feel like even saying that much is spoilery... ok if you guys don't know about the "reset button," you're gonna learn about it, why Trek fans hate it, and why this episode is an exception to that rule. Lets just say this episode gets even better over time.

[@greyeyed123]

Among the best episodes of television, ever. Everything fits perfectly. (I know Rick Berman said he wished he saved this idea for a movie, but the pacing DEPENDS on the television episode structure, and the run time. Padding this out to a two hour movie never would have worked.)

[@greenbrown7776]

I agree. Better for what it was.

[@rocco3381]

Not only one of the greatest episodes of TNG, but one of the greatest episodes of classic sci-fi television. This one will stick in your head for a while.

[@greenbrown7776]

And it holds up on subsequent viewings. In fact, it demands a minimum of one more viewing.

[@shallowgal462]

@@greenbrown7776 I think I'm going to watch their reaction a second time now.

[@tonybuc67]

I believe this was TNG’s quintessential best episode just like “City On the Edge of Forever” was for TOS.

[@Geellun]

I’m so excited for you both. Starting with this episode and through to the beginning of next season are some of the best episodes TNG has to offer.

[@karidrgn]

This is one of the episodes you'll always remember.

[@StarlancerAstro]

Now THIS is Star Trek!

[@jamessatter7418]

I love your initial thought that this was the Mirror, Mirror universe. Great guess.

[@komradewirelesscaller6716]

It wasn't just Worf that this episode turned onto prune juice but me too back in the day! Let's make sure that history never forgets the name...Enterprise! One of my all time favorite Trek lines from any Trek series ever!

[@star_man]

2:08 - 2:15 is the correct reaction to have to this episode... and pretty much an exact copy of what I did 34 years ago.

[@bobsta]

It was literally a perfect episode in every sense of the word.

[@Adam_Le-Roi_Davis.]

Worth waiting for, Alex and Josh? This is one of the best episodes of this season, and all of TNG for me.

[@RobinWells89]

To your point about wanting to see more of the characters die in the battle scene - apparently the original script was more involved but was cut for budget and time reasons - but it would have included the decapitation of Wesley and the electrocution of Data (presumably both done in a way that was appropriate for TV censors)

[@Convoy00X]

You guys are going to love the second half of DS9

[@shauncraigparkinson8165]

I love the lighting too. But somehow, I just love how bright the usual bridge is.

[@DataCab1e]

Nice recognition of DoFP. Years ago, I made a 2-panel meme in which Logan says "Patrick Stewart sent me back in time to end a war before it starts," to which Tasha replies "Welcome to the club."

[@richardb6260]

Worf was found at the Khitomer base when it was attacked by Romulans a few years later. The USS Intrepid found him when they answered a distress call. But there were no Romulan ships were there when they arrived.

[@mindlessmeat4055]

This is probably one of my favorite episodes of all star trek.

[@StephenCole1916]

I only realized after all these years that one of the changes they made to the layout of the bridge is that there is no chairs either side of the captains chair. Hence why Riker is standing behind the ops panel instead of sitting.

[@KevinPSmith-fk5eb]

I read somewhere that Worf was supposed to be on the Klingon ship attacking the Enterprise but they didn't have time in the script

[@professorbugbear]

They finally gave Tasha a proper send off. "A death that means something."

[@paulanerruhrpott6188]

Until, yeah you know..

[@dongilleo9743]

Good catch on Wesley being in an official Star Fleet uniform. That, combined with Picard stating that there are no "children" on the Enterprise would suggest that with the war going so badly for the Federation, they are desperately rushing young teenage cadets through a much shorter training regimen and sending them into battle. With "half of Star Fleet ships destroyed", that presents other problems. Any military force that suffers that level of casualties isn't hampered just with a need for more recruits. There is also a severe degradation of the officer corps. You need experienced officers with the training and technical knowledge to command and operate ships, and to train and lead the masses of new recruits. As that core group of trained and experienced officers is spread thinner and thinner and subject to relentless attrition in combat, it means that the remaining ships, and whatever new ships that can be constructed, are being commanded and operated by less effective, less capable crews. That leads to ships with lower combat capability and survivability, which in turn means more losses and an acceleration into defeat.

[@brianfuls6049]

As someone who grew up with Kirk, Spock, and McCoy in syndication after school each day, THIS was the moment that TNG surpassed TOS. This has to be a top 5 episode for all of Star Trek.

[@jcortese3300]

Your reaction in the teaser was everyone's: "WTF?! WHAT'S GOING ON?!" This was the one where it became clear that the show was prepared to just drop you in and expect you to keep up. Beautiful piece of work. It was all everyone could talk about for at least a month when I was in grad school. It places in the top five episodes ever consistently. It's definite in my top three. The change in atmosphere was amazing, too: everyone was walking around armed, Tasha was back, Wes was in a legit uniform -- a real marker that they were desperate enough to draft kids. And interesting how you guys brought up Worf in the altered timeline -- it was bandied around at the time of filming that the voice that demanded surrender from the Klingon ship be Michael Dorn's. Don't know why they decided not to go with that.

[@paul_andrews]

If Worf’s alternate existence was as a captain in a powerful Klingon empire that brought the Federation to its knees, if the next scene had him stood at the back again it would’ve been a bit sad

[@EricTheSaylorman]

Well, jeez! The thumbnail spoiled it for everyone!! I'm just kidding, obviously. We all knew what was coming today. When you guys started S3, I even put in my calendar when i thought you would put out Yesterday's Entrerprise.

[@wisconsinfirenerd]

A banger of an episode. Not often that you see a TV series explicitly critiquing one of its earlier episodes as stupid, but also paying off on that stupid premise to deliver something great.

[@JoeCensored]

Something you might not have noticed is Tasha says she's been on the Enterprise D for 4 years, and that this is the 1st Galaxy class warship of the Federation. That means this is an entirely different Enterprise D. In the main time line the Enterprise D is on its 3rd year in space, and is the 3rd Galaxy class starship, after the USS Yamato and the USS Galaxy prototype. So either the Galaxy and Yamato were destroyed before commissioned, or more likely this is the USS Galaxy.

[@anthonynoel57]

You were wondering if the battle the Enterprise C was involved in was the one where Worf's family dies. It's not, the battle the C is involved in takes place about 2 years before that one. Meaning in the alternate timeline Worf would not have been rescued by Starfleet meaning he was either dead, or rescued by Klingons and is a member of the Empire.

[@Gregory11811]

The Enterprise-C was destroyed defending a Klingon outpost from Romulans 22 years prior. That was the battle the time vortex sucked them away from. The Klingons were impressed by the Enterprise-C’s bravery and honor in defending them, even though they failed, that the Klingon Empire began to pivot away from being enemies more and more to being allies. That’s how the Enterprise-C prevented the war.

[@richtea615]

I love how Picard and Riker dislike one another in this timeline.

[@goyhoipolloi]

Work survived the Khitomer massacre. Khitomer was the location of the peace conference in Star Trek 6. The nature referenced in this episode was at Narendra. It would have been cool had they chosen Khitomer.

[@greenbrown7776]

Rashomon.

[@ldifalco2010]

This is the proper ending that Denise Crosby did not get in season 1. In fairness, there probably wasn’t time to come up with the right ending when she told Gene she wanted out. She said it herself in this episode, Tasha wanted a death that was meaningful. Nerd Alert: You see Troi at the beginning and end sitting in her seat to the left of the captain’s. She hasn’t one line in the episode and doesn’t exist in the alternate timeline. The ship wide address at the very beginning when alternate Guinan realizes something changes, references Combat Information Center, CIC. The CIC is common on all current US war vessels, an early indication that the Fed is at war. The Enterprise-C crew’s unis are from the Star Trek TOS movies minus the turtleneck undershirt. Regarding your reaction. Remember this is a 46 minute episode, while all the extra things you would have liked to see, it would be pretty difficult cramming that all into one episode. Perhaps if it were a 2 parter. Also, I think it was fine that Worf was simply not in the episode. It punctuated that the Federation was at war with the Klingons.