First time watching Chernobyl episode 3 reaction

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[@ВикторЕгоров-и3ъ]

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[@jenloveshorror]

Thank u Oak for sharing that very personal experience about your father's passing. I've not lost a parent yet myself, but I do understand, as a nurse, the basic human empathy within us all that will not allow me personally to ever let a person die alone. I've been w several people during their last moments cause for varying diff circumstances family couldn't be & I truly hope I was able to give them some comfort.

[@chernobyl68]

There are a couple guys in Arlington buried the same way

[@douglascampbell9809]

You guys keep saying they are infected. That's incorrect. Radiation contaminates/poisons people. It's an atomic process not a virus.

[@yathendrasomisheety6313]

Salaar reaction please

[@heliotropezzz333]

I don't think Vasily's wife in this series, understood about radiation dangers. The staff weren't allowed to tell her specifics because the KGB was trying to ensure the truth didn't get out to the public. She seemed to think it was burns only.

[@noobdernoobder6707]

Nor did he. Otherwise he would have insisted for her to stay away from him.

[@fxbear]

There’s a book, “voices of Chernobyl “, where she has her say. She didn’t really understand what radiation was. It’s a remarkable book but chilling. A difficult read.

[@Danthrax81]

It's also unfortunately false that patients with ARS are a meaningful source of radiation to others. Once they shower and remove clothing and suchlike, their radioactivity drops to nominal levels. They will die, but they will not pose a significant threat to others.

[@brandonreed09]

Because the dangers in this series were complete bs. In reality the protective shielding there was to protect the patient from the other people because their immune system had been completely destroyed by the radiation exposure. They weren't radioactive, like this series seems to claim. The dust they inhaled was but their own body shielded that from exposing others. The wife miscarried because of the sane exposure everyone had that day in that town, not because she went to be with her husband as he died.

[@Eddy0042]

No one did - this was the first time anything like this had ever happened (of note)

[@Wanda711]

That last scene of the concrete flowing over the lead coffins gets me every time. Just the thought that their bodies are forever exiled from the earth, like they've become something alien, just preys on the mind. It's like this horror story will never really end.

[@vtetrooo1312]

Absolutely! Like their bodies are so dangerous, they still can kill you by… existing…

[@AniwayasSong]

Imagine far into the future, when that concrete block and then lead coffins, THEN remains are either rediscovered or knowingly unearthed for 'Science,' what they'll find then?

[@elric5371]

They aren’t buried in concrete in real life though.

[@elric5371]

@@AniwayasSongthey were buried in zinc coffins and no concrete either.

[@cooper5602]

​@@elric5371there definitely were people who were welded in coffins and buried in concrete. Although I believe it was a couple years after the incident and not with relatives watching. Vasily was one of these people.

[@lalaland12]

Fun fact: my dad was almost sent to Chernobyl for clean up from Lithuania but his commanding officer let him off the hook only because my brother was a newborn at the time. My parents went to beg him and everything 😳

[@authorofone]

A friend of mine is Ukrainian. Her father was born in Kyiv Oblast, her mother in the Yakut Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic. They met at Chornobyl. They weren’t actually told about radiation levels, so when they conceived a child, they didn’t know the potential dangers. Fortunately, upon learning of this, both were sent to Moscow, where they worked on the admin work for Chornobyl. They are thankful for that, now, since it probably saved their lives, and the life of their eldest son.

[@dannyodee1990]

They didn’t show Akimov because by this point he had no face, portions of his skull were showing, he in reality could not speak & had to blink to respond to questions

[@toddjohnson271]

I heard they filmed it but his makeup was so disturbing even HBO felt they had to cut it.

[@dannyodee1990]

@@toddjohnson271 dam

[@soratorb]

@@toddjohnson271 The producer said they did not film it, didn't do makeup, nothing. After filming the other hospital scenes, they knew they should not show this one; they felt it would be crossing a line.

[@toddjohnson271]

@@soratorb oh....ok.

[@Cassxowary]

and idk if it was him or not (in real life) but when they lifted his (whoever that is) arm, the bones came up and the soft tissues stayed on the bed…

[@stt5v2002]

I am a physician and earned a physics degree before becoming a doctor. The effects described here are accurate. This important to understand that exposure to radioactive material does not cause other matter to become radioactive. The firefighter who is dying from radiation sickness has been decontaminated in the sense that his clothes were removed and he was washed. But he has ingested radioactive isotopes by breathing them in and swallowing them. These cannot be removed. They are sitting inside him, continuing to blast his tissues and dna with radiation. He is not literally radioactive, but he had radioactive material inside him. Radiation effects are remarkably dependent on range and shielding. Even his skin, the bedsheet, and the air in the room provides significant shielding. If his wife stands in the doorway, she gets a minimal dose. If she gets 6 feet closer, she gets significantly more. If she gets within a foot, she gets hundreds of times more. If she touches his skin, she gets thousands of times more.

[@joshuacoldwater]

Yes, thank you. It is also the reason that they were buried in lead coffins. (The cement burial was dramatized). There are people today who LOVE to say this entire episode was more dramatic than necessary, including the ways that the men died. That again, simply is false. These men suffered, and the woman in the series DID lose her baby. She did have multiple miscarriages afterwards, and she lived in Kiev with her son when this was released. They actually left some of the story out, her son was born on the spectrum due to the amount of radiation in her body. People always go to the fact that Nuclear Power kills such a low percentage of people per k/whr. Which is true, what they don’t speak about though is potential disasters. If a missile hits a solar plant, a wind turbine, or a dam it destroys the property and kills

[@patrickelliott2169]

Unfortunately they opted to "raise the stakes" with the bs about her pregnancy. It's weird how both her and her son are still alive today (or where last anyone heard before this war in Ukraine). It annoys me that they went to such lengths to be accurate on every other thing, then intentionally lied about this one thing, probably because they wanted to make the whole situation just that much scarier...

[@candidwings5609]

That she was bullied after this show came out is abhorrent, regardless of any facts about exposures. 😢

[@Big_Bag_of_Pus]

"exposure to radioactive material does not cause other matter to become radioactive." As a blanket statement, this is false. Material can be activated -- made radioactive -- by exposure to sufficiently high amounts of radiation. That almost certainly did not happen in the case of the victims here; but your general statement is incorrect.

[@Big_Bag_of_Pus]

​@@joshuacoldwaterWhat do you mean by "the cement burial was dramatized"? The people who were there say that's what happened; and you can see the top of the concrete if you go to Mitinskoye.

[@mawortz]

those 3 divers deserve a worldwide holiday and ceremony every year

[@lornepribbeno3760]

I think they did. And you could thank 2 of them in person still potentially. They all survived. The 3rd only died like a decade or so ago

[@mawortz]

@@lornepribbeno3760 I know they survived, because someone mentioned it in a comment in another reaction video, but my point is that most people that didn't see this series don't even know those 3 people existed and risked they life to save millions.

[@voiceofraisin3778]

​ @mawortz The Ukrainians might be a bit distracted at the moment, no parades in Kiev

[@hiddenInsight486]

They didn't volunteer though, they just happened to have the knowledge required to navigate the area in the dark and we're given the task. (There were no flashlights in reality)

[@malslslb5394]

Guys, I think, the important thing everyone, who watches this show, must understand is that we gained the 70 if not 80% information about radiation BECAUSE of this catastrophe. Before that the only ones who knew, what it can cause were scientists. This is why Luydmila (firefighter’s wife) says “He’s burned”. Not a single soul except the liquidators and scientists understood what they were dealing with. They didn’t know, how dangerous radiation can be. Remember, what Legasov said - “We are dealing with something that has NEVER occurred on this planet before”. We learn on our mistakes and our knowledge about radiation was paid by lives of all of these people.

[@94bottles]

In a documentary I watched about the Hiroshima bombing, they mentioned that many of the survivors were in a decades long study and that some of the data from them was used for Chernobyl. Very interesting but heart breaking too.

[@phh2400]

@@94bottles soviets.. well usa also.. were using even own soldiers as test guinea pigs. Drop a bomb, charge a brigade trough, occupy trenches in measured distances, measure short and long term effects. So some knowledge about radiation was know, but it was not much in education for common people. They would be too scared.. as rightfully they should be. So Chernobyl a bit helped to truly grasp the horrors of a nuclear war on a big scale.

[@Cassxowary]

indeed. But most people still refuse to learn from their mistakes by not even admitting it’s a mistake… such as how most humans treat fellow animals, human or otherwise, and our planet

[@Cassxowary]

also, the USSR hasn’t changed much, mostly rebranded…

[@aaronbuckwalter96]

100 years ago Grizzly Bears were seen as slow, dumb, and safe to be around animals. Now we know better. What you say is true.

[@dailycarolina.]

The radiation dosimeter has the most terrifying sound I've ever heard !!

[@thomaschristopherwhite9043]

I was watching Slow Horses and there was an episode where they walked into a house that had an active dosimeter inside just buzzing and it made my skin crawl.

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

Even in a video game, hearing those clicks makes you panic. Can't imagine in real life.

[@Eddy0042]

Even more amazing - that dosimeter (Geiger counter) sound is probably only etched in people's minds as a horrifying sound because of the events that happened at Chernobyl. (sure other events happened later but this triggered the nightmares)

[@thomaschristopherwhite9043]

@@Eddy0042 Well this show made it a character. No piece of media has ever done that before. Since you can't see the "monster" they're fighting that sound is the only thing that hints at it. And when you start to see what the radiation can do that sound becomes horrifying.

[@sawanna508]

In shool we once watched a German documentary called "Rückkehr nach Tschernobyl" (Return to Chernobyl) it told the story of people who were evacuated from the towns and villages and were later allowed to go back. The sound of the dosimeter was a constant background noise in the movie to show there is still radiation in the air. From time to time you could see it.

[@leathewolf]

"I told you I'd show you Moscow" plays like pure Hollywood...but that dialog actually happened. We know that directly from her. So don't let the trolls tell you everything's fictionalized. They actually prettied up what happened to Ignatenko, but I won't tell unless you ask me.

[@joshuacoldwater]

16:30 - that’s 122 degrees Fahrenheit, I’d be pissed too

[@jacobaldrich1534]

I work inside an enclosed building next to a garage door that opens with a button press, but there are days in the summer where it gets in the 90s Fahrenheit with humidity, and I find it unbearable in the states I tip my hat to the miners working in those conditions

[@ms-literary6320]

When my father in law was passing the nurse told us, “when you reach the point where you can’t leave, let us know, we’ll help set up the room.” We were like ???? Two days later, we let them know. Our hospital was great and had chairs that turned into beds. Shout out to nurses/hospital staff that help people going through some of the most difficult moments of their lives.

[@gonzo6489]

The miner that says "Now you look like the Minister of Coal" is played by the actor that played Lord Commander Mormont in Game of Thrones.

[@theHalfBloodPhoenix]

Omg no way??? 🤯

[@danieldaponte1819]

yeah there's a few game of thrones characters in the show. The guy in the military uniform at 23:00 was with Theon Greyjoy when he captured Winterfell

[@kdizzle901]

That’s not James Cosmo that’s Alex Ferns James Cosmo is like 77…….Alex Ferns was also in The Batman and Wrath of Man

[@kdizzle901]

@@theHalfBloodPhoenixno it’s not

[@gonzo6489]

@@kdizzle901 IMDB would disagree with you. Alex Ferns is the head miner but James Cosmo is the one who says, "Now you look like the minister of coal." Try reading

[@bryanandersonmt]

Regarding the 'Dome' Quinn talked about: that's the new one, the sarcophagus was finished sometime after the explosion but they knew it wouldn't last forever, so a few years ago when it started leaking/cracking (i don't remember the exact problem) they rolled the new Dome on top of the old sarcophagus

[@HerSandiness]

The new dome had already been in construction from almost the beginning, because they always knew the sarcophagus wouldn't provide more than 30-40 yeats of protection. (It actually started deteriorating much earlier. Advanced damage was recorded in 1996.) This new dome is supposed to last for at least a hundred years.

[@susanwagner98]

I can't tell you how refreshing it is to watch an all male panel who are not afraid to express emotions. Because of that, I subscribed. Imagine how delighted I was to hear such a well thought out conversation as a bonus! Thank you.

[@kdizzle901]

Real men no how to cry lol

[@mohammedashian8094]

Men were NEVER afraid to express emotions they just do it differently

[@eminasljivo5912]

​@@mohammedashian8094 sure.....

[@susanwagner98]

@@kdizzle901 They do now! My generation didn't. I love it!

[@Deft002]

No the concrete containment system was completed back in the 80s. The new safe confinement system was completed and slid into place over top the old sometime during the 2010's. I forget the exact year

[@kubikkuratko188]

2017

[@TzunSu]

Yes, the 1, 2 and 3 reactors were all kept running for many years after the accident. The last reactor was only shut down in 2000.

[@nahuelma97]

The make up and prosthetics work for those hospital scenes is just breathtaking, really. I mean, the images are incredibly disturbing, but that's just proof of how well done they are. They don't look caricaturesque, they look realistic enough to be disturbing without seeming fake. I think they won or at least were nominated for Emmys or Golden Globes for that, and rightfully so

[@heffatheanimal2200]

Nuclear accident in general and Chernobyl specifically have been a casual study topic for me since the late 80's, so I knew a fair amount of what happened and what was shown. Even so, the first time I saw this show was an unending succession of gut punches. After re-watching it multiple times, there's still parts that chock and bring me to tears. Absolutely brilliant

[@stephenwilliams5004]

Fun fact regarding the workers that allowed them to drain the tanks under reactor four. After their lights died, they did the whole job in the dark, tracing the pipes hand over hand to find the valves they needed to open.

[@thomaschristopherwhite9043]

I consider this to be one of the best horror media out there. You're dealing with an incompetent government and a monster that's gigantic and unkillable. And worse part - it's real.

[@MrTrevisco]

Yes, the nuclear industry still keeps it that way now, if any information of anything happening gets out, you can be sure, something more, has or is happening.

[@toddjohnson271]

Three mile island, Fukushima

[@MegaMerdeux]

​@@MrTreviscoexcept that nuclear industry wasnt the one lying. It was the Soviet union....

[@MrTrevisco]

@@MegaMerdeux the nuclear industry and governments lied and continue to do so, their secrecy alone makes it so they do not have to lie as much as they had to.

[@apples5229]

At 19:38 when oak asks “does the fire going out make the meltdown worse?”- Not necessarily worse. The meltdown was going to happen regardless of if the fire was put out. They needed the fire out because the smoke/fallout was spreading across Europe from the wind which was the most pressing issue (remember early on Sweden detected elevated radiation levels after only a few days). The meltdown happens because even though the fire is out, the plutonium in the fusion reactor continues to ‘react’ (in basic terms) which creates energy and heat. The core continues to get hotter until it melts through the concrete floor holding it in place. The miners were digging a tunnel so liquid nitrogen could run underneath the Chernobyl Plant so when the core melted through the floor, it would be cooled so the radiation/radioactive particles wouldn’t get into the groundwater and river which was the water supply for over 50 million people. ETA: Typically worst case scenario in a nuclear power plant is a “meltdown”. Which is why all the scientists have been so confused with and saying “it’s not possible” that the reactor exploded. There wasn’t a contingency plan for this situation because the idea of a reactor accidentally exploding was an unthinkable possibility. Nobody thought an explosion was possible until it quite literally, exploded.

[@2tone753]

It's always such a thing with the "experts". Some people just say what they want to hear, and then this type of reactor poses no danger.

[@jerpica.d6735]

You guys have quickly become one of my favourite channels on KZbin lol

[@BaddMedicine]

Thanks for giving us a shot 🤜🤛

[@carro-xb9oz]

as a swede i remembered we could not hunt or fish anything at all! it was to high risk. my dad saved a peace of moose meat from that day and had it tested 12 years later and that peace o meat still had a deadly dose !

[@mosovanhe]

Here in The Netherlands all crops had to be destroyed and cows couldn't go outside anymore for the longest time. Crazy!

[@ct5625]

In the UK there was a ban on milk and meat produced in certain areas because livestock had been contaminated.

[@CaptNondescript]

@@mosovanhe Same here in Wales, farmers weren't allowed to sell their meat

[@Superplin]

I was living in Italy, and we couldn't buy milk, lettuce, and lots of other agricultural products for quite some time. (Later a client claimed that Chernobyl had made him allergic to cats, but... I remain skeptical. 😂)

[@gnorke6311]

Well, my parents who lived in East Germany told me that suddenly after Chernobyl they could buy all sorts of foods in huge ammounts that would normaly be not available or only in very small numbers. And cheap too. Many didnt know why or didnt ask. In the East German Media they whre told that everything was ok of course.

[@Hakkar6993]

The show doesn't make this very clear but the reason you shouldn't touch the patients isn't because they are "infected" and touching them will spread radiations to you or something (as long as they've been washed of radioactive materials, at least), it's because the radiation exposure has damaged/destroyed their immune system and thus you are very prone to infecting /them/ with something. It's not for your protection, it's for theirs. Edit: As has been mentioned in the replies, while that is the main reason to avoid touching, it IS also to an extent to protect other people depending on the manner in which the patients have been irradiated. If they have ingested a radioactive source (such as the firefighters potentially breathing in irradiated dust) then it becomes an internal source of radiation that can't be washed off and will continually release radioactive isotopes, which could put someone else at risk.

[@Big_Bag_of_Pus]

You're correct that once victims were decontaminated, they shouldn't have been a radiation risk. However, surface contamination with radioactive materials is not the only way the victims could have been hot. A second mechanism, which likely did occur, was inhalation and ingestion of radioactive materials, which surface decontamination won't do anything to address. The third mechanism is by direct activation: subject a mass of material to sufficiently high levels of radiation, and some of that material can be made to be radioactive. Nevertheless, you're right that the bodies of the victims were unlikely to be significant radiation sources themselves. But OTOH, it is absolutely a fact that the firemen and plant workers that died of acute radiation sickness were welded into lead coffins and buried under concrete. That's absolutely true -- it happened. So putting aside the question of whether they were actually a risk, they were definitely perceived as a risk.

[@Hakkar6993]

@@Big_Bag_of_Pus That is very true, there's a definite difference between what we know now and what we knew then. Same with for example the whole "the baby absorbed it" which, while we know to be untrue now, was something she was told at the time (iirc it's mentioned in her account in the book). So I'm not particularly pinning it on the show as a mistake!

[@Metaljacket420]

This is actually incorrect, the danger is indeed to people who get close to them. There are two ways you can remain radioactive after exposure, ingesting the radioactive particles by breathing etc, and from neutron radiation like directly from the fuel. This can penetrate and attach or knock neutrons off the neucleus of elements like sodium in the body, turning them into highly radioactive isotopes.

[@iCortex1]

Thank you, was about to comment about this, they didn't do a very good job with that

[@Hakkar6993]

@@Metaljacket420 Interesting, I haven't heard this one before even while I researched (well, 'researched') the subject after I first watched the show. All I could find was that it was to avoid transmitting something to the patients; same for the plastic around the beds and such.

[@BlueShadow777]

The ORIGINAL containment structure over the Chernobyl nuclear plant (the "Chernobyl Shelter" or "Chernobyl sarcophagus") was NOT “only recently” completed. It was completed in November 1986, about six months after the Chernobyl disaster in April of the same year. However, the NEW Safe Confinement (NSC), a more stable and long-term solution, was slid into place over the original sarcophagus in November 2016. It’s a massive steel structure built to prevent further release of radioactive materials and facilitate the eventual decommissioning of the damaged reactor.

[@jenloveshorror]

Wondering if u know if that was done cause the old one was actually cracking & leaking out more radiation or was the new confinement structure put on just as a precaution? I'm just curious cause I wonder if anyone was newly exposed to any radiation putting up this newer structure.

[@helicopterharry5101]

I heard rumors that Russian troops damaged the new structure and it was leaking already. Don't know if that's true or if anyone knows. Could still be occupied

[@BlueShadow777]

@@jenloveshorror The original Chernobyl containment structure, often referred to as the "sarcophagus," was hastily constructed after the 1986 disaster to contain the immediate release of radioactive materials. Over time, the sarcophagus showed signs of degradation and was considered unstable. The construction of a more durable and long-term solution became necessary, leading to the development of the New Safe Confinement (NSC). The New Safe Confinement was designed to prevent further release of radioactive materials and facilitate the eventual decommissioning of the damaged reactor. It was not constructed due to direct damage to the original containment dome by military action.

[@BlueShadow777]

@@helicopterharry5101 As far as I’m aware, there has been no reported military action damaging either the original sarcophagus or the New Safe Confinement.

[@jenloveshorror]

@BlueShadow777 thank you for all the info. Much appreciated. My heart truly breaks thinking about all the ppl affected & still, I'm sure dealing with all the after effects even to this day.

[@hex1c]

This show is on par with Band of Brothers. Boris Shcherbina is played by Stellan Skarsgård btw. Super talented guy.

[@emil87th]

28:55 as you may know Russia invaded Ukraine (where Chernobyl is located), full-scale, in 2022. Russian troops occupied the still working Chernobyl power plant and the part of the plant containing the sarcophagus that was built around the site of the accident. They didn't stay for long though. While they were there they dug trenches and dug-outs and within a few days a lot of the troops started to get sick. Vomiting etc. Turns out the soil they dug into was still HEAVILY radiated. Yah, it's not gonna be safe for a very long time.

[@stevemcgowen]

They were also eating mushrooms...

[@eaglevision993]

@@stevemcgowen They surely won the 2022 Darwin Award.

[@jacobaldrich1534]

I know it’s known by now, but that region won’t be livable for about 20-24,000 years Chernobyl is a region forever frozen in time, and will likely stay that way until it’s safe

[@Sir_Lauchboy]

26:52 was an actuall photo of Vasilly Ignatenko Prypyat firebrigade

[@hmp01]

10:17 Finally reactors who understand that those guys at the beginning were not just delusional, but also really thought that could not happen. So refreshing

[@masha22092000r]

3:45 "She is giving her some cash? What is it?" Oh my sweet first world child that was an attempt at bribery 😂

[@digdog5834]

I wish more reacters watched The Terror (season 1) miniseries, has Jared Harris and the guy who plays the firefighter here. It's a criminally underrated miniseries imo. Jared Harris is one of the best for sure.

[@truevulgarian]

Without giving anything away, the what and why will all become clear in episode 5. Keep watching.

[@geoffyuendesign]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before but Jared Harris who plays Valarey is the son of Sir Richard Harris, the original Dumbledore actor. If you like him he was also in another mini-series called The Terror (season 1). I really think you guys would like it if you're into old-timey arctic nautical exploration with a touch of horror. Jared also stars in the excellent Apple TV scifi series, Foundation - also worth watching.

[@lisannebaumholz5028]

And he was also great in Mad Men.

[@DinerLingo]

Hildur Guðnadóttir had a massive year from 2019-2020, winning both a Grammy & Emmy for “Chernobyl” & Oscar, Grammy, Golden Globe, BAFTA & more for “Joker.” She’s only a Tony-award away from an EGOT after that single year. So much great acting talent, even in the small parts. Alex Ferns, the actor who played the head miner, also played Commissioner Savage (rat trap guy) in “The Batman” & Linus Mosk (aka Syril Karn’s BFF) in “Andor.” & speaking of “Andor,” Robert Emms, who played Toptunov (the guy Emily Watson was interviewing in the hospital) played Lonni Jung in “Andor” (the Rebel guy inside the ISB).

[@janasoskova007]

I am very sorry for your loss, Oak

[@jacklingham6069]

radiation is by far the worst way too die, basically what happens is it breaks your DNA and so your body slowly deteriorates, starts losing skin because the body cant create anymore due to DNA being broken, organs start to fail and so on, it just breaks your bodies ability to regenerate, and so its a slow but very painful death

[@eaglevision993]

The minister of coal, Shchadov, was not the distant, unloved bureaucrat as shown. He was actually very well respected by the coal industry and its community since he worked as a miner and had a degree in mining engineering. He worked his way up, not just set in place by bureaucracy and party. The same goes for Schcherbina. He was not the stupid "career partyman" portrayed in the beginning of the series. After Chernobyl, despite of his failing health, he helped in the aftermath of a heavy earthquake in Armenia. There are even several monuments in Armenia dedicated to him.

[@slatter98]

Dont know if you guys noticed but the miner at 12:06 who says "now you look like the minister for coal" is the actor who plays lord commader mormont in GoT

[@evie3148]

Great reaction! Appleton Oak your story about your Dad during Covid really hit home. It's heart-wrenching how many families, including mine, faced restrictions that limited precious moments with loved ones. Despite the rules, my family and I insisted on staying by my Grandma's side in her final weeks, (5 of us) and thankfully, the nurses understood. It's a stark reminder of the pandemic's toll on personal connections, especially during critical times. My friend's Dad was terminally ill during the peak of covid, when there were no vaccines and everyone was very scared. They enforced the 2 people at a time and she wasn't able to see her dad for a few weeks. When she was able to see him weeks later her Dad's cognitive abilities and awareness were impacted so heavily that he wasn't the same, her time with him was stolen. People who are ill deserve to have their family with them at the end and vice versa. The scenario here is much much more extreme with so many more risks and is hard to watch.

[@maxcreepteks3364]

*Too much suffering has fallen on my country. And we just want to live in peace and harmony. Thank you for the review, this reaction video is the best of all. Others watch it like a movie, an interesting story somewhere far away, and on your faces you can see the understanding of the whole tragedy. I hope the war will end soon and it will be possible to live normally.*

[@crimsonknight7011]

There was a Japanese man who got hit with lethal amounts of radiation that they kept alive for 83 days. I’ve heard different reports like that they kept him alive to use him as research into what radiation does to the body, or that it was his family requesting them to keep him alive. It is terrifying to read about what happened to him during this time and how much his body degraded while he was still alive.

[@kaml5076]

When you realize just the scale of devastation that this incident caused, it’s no surprise that it’s attributed as the beginning of the fall of the Soviet union. To their credit they literally did save them selves from the even worse devastation by avoiding the explosion but still Chernobyl cost so much in so many ways.

[@jonc7739]

Jared Harris IS brilliant in this. IDK if anyone has suggested it, but there was a tv movie in the 80s called The Day After. I won't spoil if you haven't seen but similar issues and worth watching.

[@Dmitriy.0]

Jared Harris is awesome in everything. Man's got such range!

[@emil87th]

"Threads" from 1984 is way better even though "The Day After" is great in its own right. So much more gritty and depressing. Awesome movie definitely worth a watch if you haven't seen it!

[@emil87th]

@@Dmitriy.0 My favorite actor of all time. Loved him in The Expanse!

[@Dmitriy.0]

@@emil87th He was quite good in Fringe as well. He's killing it in Foundation currently, even if my opinion on that show itself is quite low.

[@emil87th]

@@Dmitriy.0 He was in Fringe? I must've totally forgot that. And yes he's excellent in Foundation! I agree with the rating on the show. I quite liked the first season, not having read the books. But the second season was ass (mainly because of too much Salvor and Gale and that whole stupid plot line with the "enchantress" whatever she was). Love Lee Pace as Brother Day and Laura Burn as Demerzel is killing it too!

[@goke8456]

Oak, I am so sorry you went through that and I ugly-cried right along with you as you told your story. My sister passed almost two years ago and the hospital still had Covid procedures that only one person could visit per day - not even just one at a time, one per DAY. My parents alternated days, with one visiting her from 12-7pm while the other spent the day sitting around their hotel room killing time. When we were told she was not going to survive, I made the five hour drive down to spend her last few days with her, and we had to have a board member pull some serious strings to get them to allow us in together to say goodbye. I cried leaving every night, not knowing if that was going to be the last time I saw her. She did ultimately pass alone which still haunts me, but her doctors did say she was on so much morphine she didn’t feel a thing and I sincerely hope that’s true. Those poor people, I can’t imagine having my loved one sealed in lead and buried in concrete in a place where I couldn’t ever visit them again, or watching them suffer the way those men did. This series is so gut wrenching (and I think the next episode is the worst in that regard) but is also so important. So many ordinary people put their lives on the line to do what was right, and you don’t hear about them or hear their stories. As much as it breaks my heart, I am also in awe of the bravery shown by SO many people there.

[@luisfelipegoncalves4977]

Some years later after the accident the three employees who went down the basement to drain the water actually really went in the dark, they guided themselves by memory since they had no flashlights. Really crazy.

[@leslieturner8276]

Of course showing complete darkness doesn't make good viewing, so the decision was made to introduce a pump action torch to make things visible. What the production team did was to research what soviet pump action torches were available at the time and built a copy of it.

[@ms-literary6320]

They said this was very accurate except for the light and no one clapped after. People didn’t celebrate doing what was expected of them. (They deserve the applause though so I’m glad the show put it in).

[@AmarthwenNarmacil]

I binged the first 3 episodes, but after this one, I needed a break. That ending alone with the funeral had me bawling my eyes out. It felt so final and hopeless, with the concrete. Also, if I ever am in a state like Toptonov, Akimov or Ignatenko, just kill me. I would choose to live in almost any other scenarios, even if my survival is questionable or if I am in pain or severrely disabled, etc. As Tyrion said in GoT: "Death is so final, while life is full of possibilities." But if there is absolutely no chance of surviving and I had to spend the last days or even weeks in that much pain, I choose to opt out.

[@2tone753]

This was and is a dictatorial state. Even when everything fails, the KGB works. If only he is left, they will denounce and torment each other. This state lied, cheated and did whatever it wanted and it's still the same in Russia today. There was and is no parliamentary or other control. Maybe AmarthwenNarmacil would have been "used" for medical or other purposes - the next disaster or something else could come tomorrow and "while you're there" we'll just take AmarthwenNarmacil. Who should stop us? You see that “free will” in such a state is such a thing.

[@BlueShadow777]

To the guy in the black hat thing… sorry for your loss. I was in a very similar situation and circumstances in 2010 with the death of my mother with similar injuries (subdural haematoma)… so I empathise.

[@biditsarkar3729]

It is said that the showmakers had to scale down the monstrosity that had happened to the victims of radiation. The last image of those victims were so terrifying that even HBO said they couldn't show it on screen. It makes me shudder when thinking what really happened to them😢

[@kdizzle901]

His face was gone in real life

[@thunderatigervideo]

My father recently retired as a chemical engineer who worked with radioactive waste. Our whole community knew a fair amount about radiation. The firefighters would have been exposed to Cesium-137 and Uranium-235. The former emits beta particles and the latter alpha particles. Alpha particles are a big wrecking ball of a Helium nucleus that can obliterate DNA, but they can’t penetrate skin. It’s dangerous if ingested or inhaled (dust and smoke around the fire would have been devastating), but once inside, the person’s skin will block it from reaching anyone else. Beta particles can penetrate skin and cause burns, but they can’t penetrate clothing or even minimal barriers. So the firefighters weren’t dangerous to the people around them once their clothing was removed and they were washed. There would have been trace amounts but nothing dangerous. That said, this show is accurate to the time period regarding what many people believed. The USSR was very stingy about certain kinds of knowledge, and nuclear energy was a closely held secret. Radiation was not well understood, and many medical professionals believed it to linger or be contagious. Hence the precautions that were taken in the hospital and in the burial.

[@ck_idgaf1680]

this series is tough, especially since I remeber seeing it on the news when I was little. I can't watch the next episode again, so i'll see you guys in ep 5.

[@StopReadingMyNameOrElse]

The coal leader was in Andor as the short guy helping Syril. One of the guys in charge with glasses was the doctor at the prison. Luthen. The main control kid in the first episode is in ISB.

[@FutureMartian97]

Her hugging him isn't a danger to her, it's a danger to him. All of the firefighters were decontaminated once they got to the hospital. The problem is that with the amount of exposure they got their immune system was destroyed. So the slightest thing would be enough to kill them since their body would have no way of fighting it off.

[@miely0847]

They mention it’s 50 degrees Celsius. For reference, the human body is 37 degrees Celsius.

[@hemfri07]

They used ACTUAL FireFighters Photographs :( ,and the huge Dome above old "sarkofagues" is not made from concretion,but from Titanium steeel coveren with special thich rubber from inside. Trivia-Director Johan Renck were Stakka Bo rep musician,with huge hit "Here we go(again"...check it out. I dont want to spoil your show,i wached it all -and i know that the butler is guilty...

[@Yevgeniy-UA]

Consider watching a short epilogue after episode 5. There will be some real footage and they will also explain what happened to Chernobyl after an accident and what happened to all the people who were involved in the liquidation

[@streetlevelaudio4388]

Thanks for the reaction gentlemen. It takes a lot of self awareness to have such a shared commentary about this series. Keep doing what you’re doing 😊

[@imgettingtoooldforthis]

I don’t know if it has been mentioned but there is a podcast that goes with this show that is worth a listen. Each episode gets a podcast episode.

[@paramitch]

Thank you for the intelligent and thoughtful reactions. This miniseries was superb, and Jared Harris and Stellan Skarsgard were just so, so good. Oak, sympathies for your loss. It's so hard to lose a parent.

[@durchhalter]

The first sarcophagus (the concrete protection around the reactor), the one they were talking about building in this episode, was actually finished in November 1986. The second sarcophagus was finished building in 2017.

[@jenloveshorror]

Thank u guys for picking up on the fact that the guy who was 25 was the "senior chief engineer." I've seen so many reactors completely miss the point of that. How on earth was a 25 yo a senior chief. That should be wrong & unusual to anyone, but all they could think of it's so sad someone so young laying there dying (obviously it's tragic, but not the point of that scene). Good catch fellas & more to come bout it later!

[@ms-literary6320]

It’s a shock that he was so senior when he was so young, but when you read his life story it’s also just such a waste of potential. He was a prodigy and earned his way to that room and then this happened. RIP

[@jenloveshorror]

@ms-literary6320 Thank u for info bout him. I hadn't realized that. That man had to be so intelligent & what happened to him was heart breaking. Think of how amazing his life might have been if this tragedy never occurred. Actually, that's the same sentiment I feel about all those who suffered & sacrificed.

[@ravensdark99]

I have said it before..this series truly captures how frightening the whole situation was...if you ever (in better times) have the chance to go to Kyiv to the Chernobyl museum or take a tour to Prypjat..do it..its the single scariest experience of your lives and it changes your view on nuclear power and weapons forever

[@TheGamingRepublic]

This series is just incredible to give you a general idea of what went down in Chernobyl. It just puts you in the feels. And I have a show suggestion. Idk if y’all have seen band of brothers or the pacific. But those are incredible shows. And also, masters of air is airing right now and that’s a good show as well. Great reaction like always

[@n4l9bx]

Surely now that masters of air is coming out, it means we get the whole trilogy soon? 😇

[@chriskelly3481]

I'm glad you picked up that "soviet apple cutter" joke and linked it to the AZ5 button issue. I've seen this 100X and never put that together. 😁👍

[@TalebIbrahim]

Jared Harris is fabulous in this. His father was legendary actor (and drinker) Richard Harris....

[@HopeWren]

Love your reactions! Can’t wait for you guys to react to the remaining episodes ❤

[@LadyVenomWay]

OMG You guys started Chernobyl?!?! I a so far behind on your reactions, this weekend is going to be a binge watch starting with GenV lmao So excited to watch these. This show was a masterclass in TV. absolutely amazing!

[@anacrobat89]

The cover that they placed over the damaged reactor recently was a better made replacement job. There was another "sarcophagus" cover that was the original one they placed over the reactor in 1986. The area and town around the Chernobyl plant is still uninhabited and still has lots of dangerous pockets of radiation. Apparently there are small areas where the readings are very low. But there are other areas where is still super dangerous to be around for too long due to exposure.

[@sullygaming1137]

The podcast for the show is brilliant i cant remember if it was for this episode or the last one. There was a cut scene idea of the divers finding a crack in the wall with a blue glow behind it. They put the Geiger counter up to it and it goes crazy. The divers would look at each other and without words start moving far faster

[@crimsonknight7011]

The 3 volunteers in the diving gear actually survived and 2 of them are still alive today

[@andreww1225]

The real pictures of that fire fighter before he died are even worse than the show depicted.

[@caycehelderman9254]

32:52 it was led lined caskets with zinc coffins

[@peterkoester7358]

The test reactor 4 was running was to verify the reactors residual heat could generate enough steam to keep the reactor circulation pumps running for the 60 seconds it would take before backup diesel generators could kick in to prevent a meltdown should the reactor need to be scrammed. The test was required in order to receive the certifications needed to legally operate the reactor, and they had failed the test twice prior to the night of the accident. That was one reason there was so much pressure to successfully complete the test. Another was that the Soviet State never made a mistake.

[@utasia7086]

The absolute irony of that story was that the Soviet Union - a State which claimed to be of the people - was, in fact, the exact opposite of that principle. Consequently, the common people who were brave to step forward to selflessly sacrifice their lives stood as the antithesis of what the Soviet Union really was. What follows is that the Soviet apparatus actually resented them the most.

[@2tone753]

And who was a zealous servant of this state at that time? And as an employee and member of the KGB, it was an “honor” for Comrade Putin. Today he shows everything he has learned and affirmed, only today he is the beneficiary of his own actions.

[@leslieturner8276]

In reality when Akimov was interviewed, his wife was in the room, because she could understand what he was saying. They also toned down the actual condition of the fire fighter, because it was too horrific to show on screen.

[@WelshAmethystGirl087]

Alex ferns in this was fantastic, he played an iconic villain in a popular British TV soap as well as many other things

[@yogerrry]

You know some stuff in this show is for dramatization only. The Minister of Coal is the best example. He wasn't some weakling in a suite. Mikhail Shchadov was worked in the mines since the age of 15. He worked as a miner and later a mining engineer and a leader. He went trough all the steps till the top and he was a literal badass. The leader of the miners resembles him the best

[@heffatheanimal2200]

Leaders like Mikhail Shchadov and Alexei Stakhanov, impossible accomplishments like the Chernobyl dig, Mirny diamond mine, Raspadskaya coal mine. It's no wonder that even in the political minefield of USSR miners held a lot of power

[@Cynner1111]

Thank you so much for reacting to Chernobyl. It's such a great series.

[@bificommander7472]

Props on the creators for making a gripping scène from literally watching cement dry.

[@SuviMatinaro]

I an Finnish and I was 6 when this happened. My dad just told me the shock of the news coming from Sweden knowing those first clouds had already passed us. They tried their best of keeping me and my little brother away from sand, soil and water puddles especially the ones flowing from roofs becouse of the fallout. There were strict restrictions on eating wild mushrooms and berries etc and there is still radiation found in the nature today. My uncle died of colon cancer partially due to his exposure during him working in USSR in the 80's and 90's.

[@MilesL.auto-train4013]

Hope you're ready for Episode 4. That one is an especially tough watch. As for fact checking, the liquidators actually didn't have those wind up flashlights in real life, they did their jobs in complete darkness. They were added into the episode so that way the audience could still see what was going on, and truth be told it was a good idea - I doubt you'd have much audience retention on total darkness. If I may also suggest, have any of you seen United 93? I'd highly recommend it for another history binge such as this one. It is also a very impactful film.

[@kdizzle901]

Especially if u like animals lol

[@matt_canon]

22:15 I just picked up on something. Not only did Chebrikov (called Charkov in the series) know about Khomyuk, he's giving Legasov a cryptic staredown during most of the briefing. Unless Legasov started the staredown and he's returning it.

[@matthewlewis9424]

I love the structure of the show where episode 1 takes place in the hours around the accident. Episode 2 takes place over the course of days and episode three is the weeks following the explosion. You can guess where this goes from here.

[@Yora21]

You can adjust the volume of a dosimeter, so to speak. The noise doesn't really tell you how much radiation there is. But the change in the noise tells you if you're getting closer or further away from a radiation source. If you set sensitivity really high, it will make a lot of noise when you get close to even a very weak radiation source, and if you set it really low, you won't hear much even in heavily irradiated areas. If you want to know how much radiation there is, you need a different kind of detector.

[@KevDaly]

In April 1986 I was nearing the end of working for 8 months as an English Assistant in a French high school. I was 24 going on 25, the same age as the firefighters and young guys in the control room, so that hits hard. One day a friend rushed up to me to tell me that a nuclear reactor in the USSR had exploded...and I said "But nuclear reactors can't explode, can they?!". Boy was I wrong. As we anxiously tracked the progress of the cloud over Europe there were reports that women in Germany were having abortions for fear of the effects on their babies. That broke my heart. This episode is the most gut-wrenching for me (some Gen Z-ers think it's the next one but I beg to differ because I still care about human beings)

[@Kammy7911]

I'm pre-anxious for their Epi 4 reaction 😢

[@Spiklething]

Not sure if it's still available but when I watched this, there was a companion podcast from the makers of the show for each episode, where they talk about when what they show is not really what happened and why they changed it. IIRC the makers of the show mentioned that the people who went in to drain the bubble tanks in real life did not have back up torches (flash lights) Instead, when the lights failed, they really had to find their way in complete darkness which makes what they did even more heroic The reason they did not show this in the show is because showing a scene where there is no light at all does not make for great viewing.

[@kdizzle901]

All that’s still available on Max

[@denisebennettahrentzen8340]

Great reaction! Love your work. Thank you.

[@efricha]

The photos held in the burial scene were actual photos of people killed by it, including, I've read, the guard who forced the dosimetrist to look over the blown building. The danger of breathing dust was alpha particles. They can be stopped by a sheet of paper or intact skin. However, inhaling them is a painful death. The reality of the divers was that they felt their way to the valve handle was entirely by feel, in complete darkness. That makes for boring TV, though.

[@an81angel]

It's so hard to watch. The pain and suffering is truly unimaginable. So many brave men and women who did what they could to help.

[@AdhamOhm]

Hildur Guðnadóttir composed the soundtrack by going around in different nuclear power plants (including Ignalina which is the same RBMK reactor as Chernobyl) and recording the sounds of the machinery. She then sampled those sounds and made them into music for the series.

[@WillyanWagner]

Mason's face always over thinking about the water drops in the sink 😅

[@CliffuckingBooth]

29:07 Actually you are mistaken. The original sarcophagus was finished several years after the disaster but by year 1996 the structure had deteriorated to the point where numerous stabilization measures were required. New sarcophagus was finished in 2016 and it meant to last for about 100 years.

[@Laur3nxlights]

“My advice: tell the truth. These men work in the dark; they see everything.” One of the best lines ever uttered onscreen. This episode is the best of the 5 IMO. The score is also an assembled masterpiece of real RBMK reactor noises. So hauntingly beautiful. Good stuff.

[@kittymandias]

Those were crazy times. People everywhere were concerned about the radiation coming from Chernobyl but they smoked as chimneys 😅

[@memnarch129]

The dust and debris is Radioactive, but not people. Once you are unclothed and washed of any debris or fallout its ok to come into some contact. Mostly the protective clothing is to protect the victim not the attending nurses. Since as this episode explains their immune system is completely compromised any bit of bacteria or such just makes the situation that much worse.

[@ToastyZach]

There are mini-podcasts at the end of each episode. They do a great job of detailing what is Hollywood and what is fact.

[@Sef_Era]

29:00 The dome needed to be replaced, so an international effort (and 2.3 billion dollars) was put towards replacing it. The new containment should last another century or so.

[@gailscrypto1536]

i thought the same about ending their suffering...but i guess they couldnt have gotten the information revealed in episode 5 that will hopefully prevent something like this ever happening again....

[@Ervtard]

Fun fact: the bodies of the victims were not actually radioactive. In reality, the led coffin and the concrete was not necessary, nor were visitors and hospital personnel actually in danger once the contaminated clothes were removed and the bodies washed. But they did not know it at the time and really did bury them this way as they believed they were still radioactive themselves.

[@Niclas-ui1fh]

This series is a pure masterpiece. Love your reactions