First Time Watching Glory, Movie Reaction

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My first time watching Glory, and I wasn't ready for how it ended...
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@adarael
@adarael 2 жыл бұрын
After Shaw was buried with the 54th, his father wrote "We would not have his body removed from where it lies surrounded by his brave and devoted soldiers.. We can imagine no holier place than that in which he lies, among his brave and devoted followers, nor wish for him better company. - what a body-guard he has!"
@optimega
@optimega 2 жыл бұрын
The First African American Medal of Honor Recipient,was from the 54th Massachusetts.Sergeant John Wall carried the colors, the red, white and blue of the United States of America. Suddenly a rifle bullet dropped Sergeant Wall and the flag began to fall to the ground. Sergeant William Carney threw his rifle aside and grasped the colors before they touched the ground.Sergeant Carney was shot in the leg,soldiers falling all around him Carney mustered the strength to ignore the pain in his leg, hoist the colors high in the air, and continue to lead the advance. Somehow he gained the entrance to the fort and proudly planted his flag…but he was alone…everyone else either killed or wounded. The solitary figure and his flag pressed against the wall of the fort for half an hour as the battle raged on. Carney remembered the flag that represented all he held dear and was fighting to protect that day. Rather than dropping the flag and fleeing for his life, he wrapped the flag around the staff to protect it and ran down an embankment. Stumbling through a ditch, chest-deep in water, he held his flag high. Another bullet struck him in the chest, another in the right arm, then another in his right leg. Carney struggled on alone, determined not to let his flag fall to the enemy.A retreating member of the 100th New York passed Carney and, seeing the severity of his wounds said, “Let me carry that flag for you.” With indomitable courage Sergeant Carney replied, “No one but a member of the 54th should carry the colors.” Despite the sounds of rifle and cannon fire that followed him, Carney struggled on. Another enemy bullet found its mark, grazing his head, but Carney wouldn’t quit.Amid the cheers of his battered comrades Sergeant Carney finally reached safety. Before collapsing among them from his many wounds his only words were, “Boys, I only did my duty. The flag never touched the ground.”In the US Army,its an honor to be the one carrying the flag,may it be in battle,retirement cermonies,change of command ceremonies,etc,and the person carrying that flag will treat it like "Sergeant Carney's Flag."William Harvey Carney died at his home in New Bedford on December 9, 1908, and is buried in the Oak Grove Cemetery there. His final resting place bears a distinctive stone, one claimed by less than 3500 Americans. Engraved on the white marble is a gold image of the Medal of Honor, a tribute to a courageous soldier and the flag he loved so dearly.
@bbwng54
@bbwng54 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for recounting Carney's experience. Far closer to the truth and better film than "The Patriot" which gets more hype.
@Top10soon
@Top10soon Жыл бұрын
Wow.. thx for that info.
@alfredcisneros6988
@alfredcisneros6988 Жыл бұрын
What an example to all of us. Courage. Honor and sense of duty.....his name should never be forgotten
@johannesvalterdivizzini1523
@johannesvalterdivizzini1523 Жыл бұрын
Carney won the MOH, not Wall.
@optimega
@optimega Жыл бұрын
@@johannesvalterdivizzini1523 Yes it was Carney who won the MOH,Sgt Wall was official flag carrier,he didn't drop the flag until he got hit,everyone in that unit loved the flag and its commander,they followed him and the flag to hell and back,who knows if Sgt Wall wasn't felled by a bullett he would do the same.No one on that unit would have let the Confederates grabbed "Old Glory",without a fight or blood spilled.
@jcarlovitch
@jcarlovitch 2 жыл бұрын
28:49 general Strong doubted the fort could ever be captured but was under direct orders from the War Department to take it. After sending the 54"TH and two other regiments to certain death he was so guilt ridden that he personally led the fourth assault and suffered fatal wounds
@DomR1997
@DomR1997 Жыл бұрын
That's absolutely horrible. Thank you for sharing that piece of history.
@Cage2053K
@Cage2053K Жыл бұрын
The regiment's vanguard of 250 men that led the assault on the fort sustained over 90% losses. 20 were killed, 125 were wounded and 102 were missing (Dead- Remains Not Recovered). The regiment had to be withdrawn and rebuilt.
@pangkaji
@pangkaji 2 жыл бұрын
No, there is no mixing between enlisted soldiers and officers. The fear is the enlisted will not show proper respect to the officer. Conversely the officer will not have the heart to send them to their death when needed. In Band of Brothers, Lt. Buck Compton (officer) was criticized by Winters for fraternizing with Malarkey, Guarnere and Joe Toye which were enlisted NCOs
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that makes sense, all I know about the military life is from band of brothers and saving private Ryan lol so I thought there was more closeness than that, but I didn’t realize the nuance between ranks
@thefleasofathousandcamels6498
@thefleasofathousandcamels6498 2 жыл бұрын
The line that separates enlisted from officers is very real, even today...but was even more strictly enforced in older times.
@powerbadpowerbad
@powerbadpowerbad 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefleasofathousandcamels6498 Fraternization with officers ( being enlisted ) is most definitely frowned upon in the military and for good reason.Non the less,I,as an enlisted male member did date female officers while in the army ( both of us caught it a secret of course )
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 Жыл бұрын
​@@NiaMakiReacts but with Band Of Brothers and Saving Private Ryan they were all enlisted men. And when Winters got promoted he was no longer fratenizing with the soldiers.
@gabrielegenota1480
@gabrielegenota1480 11 ай бұрын
I can't imagine the pain of getting close to the very people you will send to their deaths. That's very well put.
@cleekmaker00
@cleekmaker00 2 жыл бұрын
35:55 The Confederates buried Col. Shaw in a mass grave along with his Soldiers as an insult to him, his Soldiers, and the Union Army. When Shaw's parents were asked if they wanted his body exhumed and returned to Boston for a 'proper' burial, Shaw's father said no; he could not think of a higher honor to both his Son and the Troops he led than to be interred alongside them in Eternal Sleep.
@JB-nc7yk
@JB-nc7yk 2 жыл бұрын
The letters that Matthew Broderick (Shaw) was narrating were some of the actual letters that the real Shaw wrote to his mother before he was killed. Gave should an interesting glimpse of how he saw the slaves/soldiers through his eyes, having never had much interaction with slaves or black people at all other than Thomas and maybe a few other free blacks in Massachusetts at the time.
@Steelburgh
@Steelburgh 2 жыл бұрын
I was coming here to share that and found it right near the top. This is such an accurate movie told with such power.
@LordVolkov
@LordVolkov 2 жыл бұрын
Glory remains powerful due to the brutal history it tells. Fantastic acting all around and that final failed charge is heartbreaking.
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely… the scene when he told the reporter, “if I fall, remember what you saw here” it hit me so hard when editing… the ending man…
@monetenglish68
@monetenglish68 Жыл бұрын
Heartbreaking but I'm here to say I'm homered because they know that the future generations would be free. Even though we still have issues but I'm forever to thankful for them. I'm free because of their sacrifice. Hail 54th
@mikebailey9566
@mikebailey9566 Жыл бұрын
@@monetenglish68 And the sacrifice of thousands of white soldiers too. Let's not forget that.
@subitman12
@subitman12 2 жыл бұрын
Fraternization is a big deal. I was a submarine officer in the US Navy. Being prior enlisted for 1.5 years before OCS, I knew the life of both. I still invited my division once a year on my money to a restaurant to thank them for their hard work. I never drank or eat with them other than that unless it was a boat wide event.
@Alvin-1138
@Alvin-1138 11 ай бұрын
OCS being Officer Candiate School. (The folks who don't understand 'fraternization" might find the full meaning helpful). My Dad went thru the program in the early 1950's one of the early 'minorties'..
@kenneighbors4973
@kenneighbors4973 23 күн бұрын
So true. I was an Enlisted Marine before I commissioned. I would routinely say things like "Yes, I am aware this sucks, but let's get it done and we can all move on to other things." It is hard to suppress sympathy when you are aware of what being on the other end of the order entails. But it also lends an idea of how to give and communicate orders in a fashion that is better received.
@simeonteitelbaum3673
@simeonteitelbaum3673 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up in Boston I've walked by the monument to the 54th many times. Such a brave and heroic bunch
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
That’s amazing!! I’d love to go see it one day
@bbwng54
@bbwng54 2 жыл бұрын
I just saw the monument 2 weeks ago. I had not seen it i over 40 years (I am originally from Boston). Good to see that there were other people there to see the monument.
@ticklicker11
@ticklicker11 2 жыл бұрын
I also lived in Boston and the monument is back in place after being damaged during rioting, I presume by people who don't understand it's history.
@michaelvincent4280
@michaelvincent4280 2 жыл бұрын
At a time when the Flag was treated as a living Spirit, after the village was torched, you see the 51ST leaving, rolling their guardians (flags) up, in order to protect them from witnessing their shame. I was so impressed that they included that tiny bit of detail, that says so much about this group of men. It makes one proud again.
@armynurseboy
@armynurseboy 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, and in the final battle, you see a soldier waving the Colors and screaming "Rally!". That was Sgt Carney, and he was the first African American to be awarded the Medal of Honor.
@gabrielegenota1480
@gabrielegenota1480 11 ай бұрын
@@armynurseboy Absolute champion. I imagine it'd be difficult to coordinate a battle without a big fuck-off flag and a guy shouting "RALLY!!!"
@prp2
@prp2 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Col. Shaw and all his brave regiment. The 54th made us proud. Such strong men, thank you all.
@draskang
@draskang Жыл бұрын
I'm kind of amazed as to how often people misunderstand what Shaw does. People apply modern infantalized standards to this & act like he's mistreating them because he doesn't coddle & baby them. He treats the 54th like EVERY OTHER SOLDIER because he treats them like men. Not like villains, not like babies, not like morons. He applies the same rules & has the same expectations of them. It's honestly the highest honor he could give & the greatest glory they could be afforded.
@blueroninstudios
@blueroninstudios Жыл бұрын
Soldiers in any era go through a LOT that any regular civillian would be surprised by. Being a civilian I know that much. The 54th made a TON of generations proud not only by what they endured, but the sacrifice they made to ensure the freedom of former slaves. Soldiers are tough. Soldiers are hardy. Soldiers are steadfast and hopefully, honorable in the face of adverse conditions and adverse people screaming in their faces. Ordinary men and women go through stress and break, but a soldier? They grit their teeth and bear it. That's the training they get. They toughen you up in more ways than prepping you to fight, they prep you to ENDURE, to PREVAIL, and toSURVIVE BRAVELY.
@CherylHughes-ts9jz
@CherylHughes-ts9jz 3 ай бұрын
Yes, to treat them less sternly, now that would have been racism ‼️☮️
@griechland
@griechland 2 жыл бұрын
Robert Shaw was buried in a mass grave with the soldiers he commanded. The south did this as an insult as he was commanding colored soldiers. Robert Shaws father publicly proclaimed that he was proud to know that his son had been buried with his troops, befitting his role as a soldier and a crusader for emancipation. "We would not have his body removed from where it lies surrounded by his brave and devoted soldiers. ... We can imagine no holier place than that in which he lies, among his brave and devoted followers, nor wish for him better company. - what a body-guard he has!" - Frank Shaw
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for writing the quote from his father. I was very suspicious while watching the movie about everyone’s intention but I’m really happy to know that is how he felt.
@colekingcage1671
@colekingcage1671 2 жыл бұрын
Such a dope movie. This should be amongst the classics that live forever.
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
Aww thanks for stopping by!!
@jhilal2385
@jhilal2385 2 жыл бұрын
The scene where Matthew Broderick is riding between posts with watermelons slashing them with his saber is that the posts are 5' tall with the watermelon representing the approximate size, shape and height of a human head for saber practice. This was a common form of weapon practice for both US and European cavalry in the 1700's, 1800's, and even through WW1 and WW2.
@tommythompson9565
@tommythompson9565 2 жыл бұрын
First time viewer. I don't pass up a reaction to great movies -- Glory being one of them. I appreciate your heartfelt reaction. The ending to Glory is one of the most moving in film history. Look forward to viewing more of your videos.
@TheScarecrow78
@TheScarecrow78 2 жыл бұрын
There's a beautiful monument to the 54th Massachusetts in Boston. Definitely worth visiting if you are ever in the city.
@blueroninstudios
@blueroninstudios Жыл бұрын
Denzel's tears were absolutely REAL in that scene: the prop whip they used didn't cut his skin for real, but Denzel told the director he actually wanted to feel the sting of it, so the pain he was experieneing was absoultely real!
@ariochiv
@ariochiv 2 жыл бұрын
Especially in those days (but even to a certain extent still today) there were rigid protocols about the class division between enlisted men and officers in the army. Corporal punishment was common for white soldiers, and fraternization between officers and enlisted men was not tolerated. Shaw was trying to maintain the discipline expected of a white regiment, whereas others like Cabot wanted him to go easy on the black soldiers... which is really rather patronizing. The "soft racism of low expectations," if you will.
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know about those rules but definitely interesting. I know nothing of military life, only glimpse I got was saving private Ryan and band of brothers lol
@ariochiv
@ariochiv 2 жыл бұрын
@@NiaMakiReacts Even in Band of Brothers, if you recall, when Sgt. Lipton was promoted to Lieutenant, Army rules forbade him from staying as an officer in the same company in which he'd been an enlisted man. I question to what degree these archaic class-based customs belong in the military of a modern democracy, but traditions die hard in the military... and I guess they figure "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
@williambranch4283
@williambranch4283 2 жыл бұрын
This "soft racism" is very popular since 1965.
@neilshackleton89
@neilshackleton89 2 жыл бұрын
This movie was the breakthrough for many of these actors, including Denzel. He was well-known for the TV series "St Elsewhere" before this, and had critical success as Steven Biko in "Cry Freedom", but Glory really launched him into a string of movies in the public eye. As I recall, it was also the first truly serious role for Matthew Broderick, who was still mostly known for teen movies, including Ferris Bueller. Thanks for reacting to this. I feel it is an under-appreciated movie.
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
I just could not get enough of Denzel. I think seeing him like that made me channel his energy while reacting lol
@Rufus6540
@Rufus6540 Жыл бұрын
The screenwriter, Kevin Jarre, was the soldier who yelled "Give 'em Hell 54!" Neat little factoid.
@sadeaton
@sadeaton 2 жыл бұрын
It was just about 5 years ago that Colonel Shaw's descendants discovered the actual sword he lost in this battle, cool story how it made it back to his family. They donated it to a museum in Massachusetts to go with the other artifacts from the 54th regiment.
@benuticone3079
@benuticone3079 2 жыл бұрын
In fairness to the memory of the real Col. Shaw it should be noted that the flogging scene almost certainly never happened. There is no mention of it in any journals or reports from anyone who was there. Also, by the time the 54th Massachusetts was formed, flogging had been outlawed by the Union army as a means of punishment. Just as Matthew Broderick played him in this film, the real life Shaw had a reputation for being a very proper, by-the-book officer. It's very unlikely he would have ignored the regulation against corporal punishment while adhering so strictly to others. It's a powerful scene, but almost certainly an example of artistic license.
@dwood21851
@dwood21851 Жыл бұрын
i think the majority of the audience is expected to not know the regulations of the time. the point of the scene is to show that shaw would treat them the same as a white soldier. meaning if a white soldier deserted he would also be flogged.
@tommywalker3746
@tommywalker3746 2 жыл бұрын
There's only 3 boxes that matter in life. The jury box, the ballot box and the cartridge box Fredrick Douglas
@davidmichaelson1092
@davidmichaelson1092 Жыл бұрын
Been on juries. I do the ballot box and get out the vote. Never did the cartridge box. I am a scientist and teacher, Jim, not a warrior. But I greatly respect those who are.
@williamkerner3758
@williamkerner3758 2 жыл бұрын
They buried Shaw with his men as an insult. After the war, Shaw's parents were given the opportunity to recover his body, but they declined and said it was an honor to be buried with the men he served with.
@micksailor4715
@micksailor4715 2 жыл бұрын
This movie always makes me cry. Hell, even the reviewers' reactions make me cry. Such a powerful movie.
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting a victory with maybe A casualty but it just hit me like a truck! 😭
@JB-nc7yk
@JB-nc7yk 2 жыл бұрын
@@NiaMakiReacts yes, I think that’s what made this movie so great, they didn’t sugar coat the ending. They showed the real, honest, sad truth, actually as it happened. Unfortunately history and war in particular doesn’t always end with a happy ending.
@zh2184
@zh2184 2 жыл бұрын
Great reaction! I know it seems inhuman and cruel sometimes to watch the interaction between officers and the men during training, but nothing disintegrates an army faster than one that doesn't have a structured, respected chain of command. The discipline and professionalism of Ukraine's army is proving that today against the Russian army.
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
It’s super hard for me to imagine.. but I understand the concept now.. I didn’t realize it was like a thing, so I was upset with him a lot of the movie and it was uncalled for lol
@sekirei19
@sekirei19 2 жыл бұрын
Ya, and he gave them the proper training and treatment because he didnt think of them as lesser than whites or couldnt handle it. That would dishonor their pride, passion, and sacrifice they made to even enlist
@tommywalker3746
@tommywalker3746 2 жыл бұрын
The military world is designed this way from thousands of years of practical experience.
@powerbadpowerbad
@powerbadpowerbad 2 жыл бұрын
Ukraine's military is fighting for their families,friends,etc,etc,..nothing gives you the ULTIMATE motivation than to fight for your families's lives and way of life.Something america's never had to do.
@eddhardy1054
@eddhardy1054 2 жыл бұрын
16:25...Sorry mate but you're consistently missing the point. it's not that he doesn't want to talk to the men, it's rather that army procedures have to be followed to maintain discipline (which is vital on the battlefield for maintaining order which in turn could save lives). Thomas hadn't followed these procedures because he hadn't asked permission before approaching. This may sound trivial but as I said before discipline in warfare can save lives. The same thing goes for how the sergeant treats the men. it may look brutal and uncalled for but he wants them to follow orders quickly and without question since any time wasted in querying an order could end in disaster.
@seannovack3834
@seannovack3834 Жыл бұрын
That training sergeant did that battalion the ultimate compliment of treating them no differently than he would have treated any other group of recruits in training - except swapping out the insults. As an Irishman myself he no doubt would have been insulting my clan! The rough behavior would not have been out of place even in the 1960's, and at the time of the film's setting Tripp's character would most likely have been shot.
@MingoWayama
@MingoWayama 2 жыл бұрын
I loved your reaction to this great movie. Congratulations on a job well done!
@haraldisdead
@haraldisdead 2 жыл бұрын
"He doesn't seem like the fighting type though.. who am I to judge?" That's more humility than I've seen from a beautiful woman in ten years.
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
aww, thank you for the complement. It's easy to sit as a third person as judge but I know I were in any one else's shoes I'm 99.99% sure I would not do any better,
@lowrivera
@lowrivera Жыл бұрын
First time watcher. Love this film, wonderful reaction, and the host is gorgeous!!! 😍
@nebidiaswift5200
@nebidiaswift5200 2 жыл бұрын
Give ‘em hell 54th gets me every time
@beachem1
@beachem1 2 жыл бұрын
Another great reaction. Thanks for your solid reviews 👍🏻
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! 💕
@strawdawgs78
@strawdawgs78 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas in Beast Mode is one of the most glorious things ever captured on film.
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
Too true!!! Thomas :( 💔
@visiblepixels4632
@visiblepixels4632 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many amazing things about this film. While Denzel is BRILLIANT (and steals every scene he's in), I was actually shocked at how good Broderick was. Before seeing this film, I recall thinking he could never pull this off, but he did. Additionally, people sometimes forget Andre Braugher's performance, which is both complex and touching. The scene on the beach when they are preparing for battle - knowing they will likely die - gets me ever single time.
@kwadwotuffour5529
@kwadwotuffour5529 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna join your patreon tonight, and watch your full reaction as I rewatch this classic on another screen.
@matthewgillespie9405
@matthewgillespie9405 2 жыл бұрын
Officers cannot be “buddies” with enlisted men. Officers must order men into horrible situations & the men must obey without question.
@AddisonBook.
@AddisonBook. Жыл бұрын
Many of my ancestors fought for the South on my mother's side. Her being from Mississippi A few fought the North on my daddy side, him being from Michigan, As a Southern. This movie makes me cry all the time, especially in the end, I have 💯 respect for those who fought in the U.S. Colored Regiments if only both sides knew how sorry our country is today..#NeverForget...
@Yeraveragemoron
@Yeraveragemoron Жыл бұрын
@johnstrickler2238
@johnstrickler2238 2 жыл бұрын
Commenting about the military discipline, it was absolutely appropriate. Both the needing to be separate from the enlisted, as well as not undermining authority, as well as disciplining the infraction of being away without leave. The discipline instilled is how we live once we get into combat.
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know about the rules, I do feel bad now for not being as nice to Shaw.
@beannathrach2417
@beannathrach2417 2 жыл бұрын
@@NiaMakiReacts An officer has to command and inspire. He doesn't seem inspirational until the shoes. An officer will command the troops do things likely to kill them. He has to inspire troops to obey. Fraternization refers to becoming too familiar, making friends, having favorites. Officers and soldiers do not casually intermingle. The troops have to be willing to be killed, and the officer has to be willing to kill them. Nobody comes out of a war completely sane. It's another good reason to end all war.
@johnstrickler2238
@johnstrickler2238 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of it has to do with being able to command vs people thinking there is discussion, which can be bad at critical moments. It's part of why there is the lack of fraternization as well, because that can lead to favoritism, who gets sent on the dangerous missions, etc. Also, don't feel bad. A lot of people don't know these up front :)
@stonecoldku4161
@stonecoldku4161 2 жыл бұрын
This movie is probably one of the most historically accurate films made by Hollywood. There are some historical inaccuracies and I'll get into one of them in a moment, but an underrated movie in my opinion about the American Civil War is Gettysburg. Based on the bloodiest battle of the war. I highly recommend it. One of the most historically inaccurate scenes in this movie is probably its most iconic. The scene where Denzel is flogged for being AWOL. That never happened. Flogging as a punishment was banned in the US military in 1861. This movie takes place at the tail end of 1862 and 1863. Had Shaw ordered that one his soldiers be flogged as punishment; Shaw would've been dishonorably discharged from the army, and possibly worse.
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clearing that up!!! And I did not know that it was fairly historically accurate otherwise!! I went into this blind and honestly didn’t know what to expect!
@Smenkhaare
@Smenkhaare Жыл бұрын
Also one of the major inaccuraccies were that the 54th was made up of middle class men. Doctors, dentists, farmers, tradesmen, shop keepers and skilled laborers. The wrongful thinking of the time was that formerly enslaved African Americans would not fight their former enslavers. The wrong headed belief was that they would lay down their weapons and fall back into enslavement. Both Frederick Douglas and the White abolitionists like Governor Andrew and the Union Army wanted the 54th to be comprised of Freedmen who would "fight" in their opinion. It was a regiment filled with Thomas' who could fight... not Trip, Sharps and Rawlins types. Also the Regimental Sergeant Major was Frederick Douglas' oldest son and not a Rawlins type. He second son was a First Sergeant. Both men had plenty of respect and survived the war and went on to live their lives. Glory is very accurate otherwise. Though flogging was outlawed some Regiments still carried on with it. The other most common punishments were hanging and/or shooting by firing squad. There were other less lethal ways of dealing with desertion. The scene is also about Shaw treating them as a White regiment would be treated. He felt if he did not "punish" Trip then the regiment would be subject to more racism. In a way for this scene... flogging is the lesser punishment and reflect McCulhay's upbringing in the British Army of the time. This movie has so many layers.
@christopherpeters6365
@christopherpeters6365 2 жыл бұрын
I kid you not, I have ran to this movies soundtrack since I was 19...I am 46🤣🤙🤙
@haraldisdead
@haraldisdead Жыл бұрын
Flogging was the standard punishment for all men everywhere. He treated denzel the same way he would have treated a white soldier. Besides, there's no other form of punishment that a slave wouldn't have also gone through.
@BlyatBlaster
@BlyatBlaster Жыл бұрын
So Sgt. Maj, Mulcahy was a real guy. The Irish drill sarge. And he really was that harsh. But not because he was racist. But because he loved his boys and didn’t want them to be killed because he failed to train them properly. He made statements later that the 54th Massachusetts was the best regiment he ever trained.
@johannesvalterdivizzini1523
@johannesvalterdivizzini1523 Жыл бұрын
My father was a Navigational Instructor in the Army Air Force in WW2. He said his very best students were the black fliers from Tuskegee, and he taught thousands of men how to get to their target and get home.
@chuckhilleshiem6596
@chuckhilleshiem6596 11 ай бұрын
I am a combat veteran . With all respect I understand what this officer is trying to do. His main idea is to keep as many of them alive as possible and that takes very hard training . God bless you
@sydhamelin1265
@sydhamelin1265 Жыл бұрын
The conversation between Denzel and Broderick, before the final charge, so powerful. When Denzel is pointing out that the soldiers won't have a "home" to return to. Then made even more powerful by them being buried side by side, like the reality of Denzel's position of no home really hits hard, and how the white soldiers had places to return to. But then the grim reality that Broderick and Denzel end up in the same grave. Something beautiful about this movie is that it uses Robert Gould Shaw's letters as reference, he actually was a good guy, and I think it was actually him who encouraged not taking payment until his troops got equal pay. Something I LOVE about this movie is that it avoids the 'white savior' trope, especially in the beginning when Shaw is a bit apathetic and distant. Not cruel, just not engaged as much as he needed to be. But the 'Glory' goes to the men who volunteered and died for their freedom.
@Smenkhaare
@Smenkhaare Жыл бұрын
For sure, the White Savior trope would have ruined this movie. Major Forbes had a healthy dose of this trope... especially in the beginning before the burning of the town of Darien in Georgia..
@armynurseboy
@armynurseboy 2 жыл бұрын
Col Shaw was killed leading the assault over the ramparts. He was buried in a mass grave with his men. This was considered as an insult by the Rebels, as 1) the bodies officers, especially high ranking ones, were usually recovered and returned to their families and 2) he was buried with blacks, which in Southerner's eyes was unthinkable. When given the option to exhume his body after the war, Shaw's family declined, saying Robert would have been honored to be buried with the men he loved.
@russellfalch7570
@russellfalch7570 Жыл бұрын
The confederates buried the colonel with the black troops as an insult but his parents said he and they were honored that he was with his men
@haraldisdead
@haraldisdead 2 жыл бұрын
Best. Movie.
@daveferraro4009
@daveferraro4009 2 жыл бұрын
Denzel's character left camp without permission. That's desertion or at least awol and the punishment was whipping in those days. Shaw was making them into an army regiment and you don't do that by letting them bend the rules.
@itt23r
@itt23r 2 жыл бұрын
You apparently do not realize this but in the military soldiers are not allwed to fraternize with officers (and vice versa) because too much familiarity can breed contempt. And since in combat, soldiers need to obey orders without question or people die. they need to have the utmost respect for the officer giving them.
@jflaugher
@jflaugher 2 жыл бұрын
Fraternization between officers and soldiers violates the Uniformed Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) under Article 134 of the Manual for Courts-Martial (MCM). “Fraternization” is a relationship that compromises the chain of command, it can result in favoritism, it compromises impartiality, and it undermines morale.
@Robertz1986
@Robertz1986 2 жыл бұрын
The enlisted/officer divide still exists. That wasn't color or time period.
@DP-eo5xd
@DP-eo5xd 2 жыл бұрын
The acting by Denzel in this is something else
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
Yessss!!!! I need more Denzel!!
@ArthurX-eg8bc
@ArthurX-eg8bc 7 ай бұрын
"This movie ended so abruptly." The theatres were full of shocked people in record time
@mdpetty53
@mdpetty53 2 жыл бұрын
You really missed the point for the most part relative to Col Shaw. He was not there to be their friend or be kind to them or be on their side. He was their commanding officer. He was completely doing the right thing relative to how he treated and led these troop. This was war and he was in a doubly difficult leadership position. His tactics were exactly right.
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I didn’t know about that rule and military life in general
@louiedajet
@louiedajet Жыл бұрын
The drill sergeant cracked me up when he called Denzel a Mexican 😂
@DelPie77
@DelPie77 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be 46 soon and first saw this movie when I was 13, still impacted by so many scenes. The tears and expression on Denzel's face, when Robert expects for the soldiers not to be there in the morning "how many are left" and they're all present and proud. The circle song between the soldiers before war, and I still cry when the soldiers that are left make their way up the hill and freeze in shock at what's coming 💔 😢
@thecursor1
@thecursor1 Жыл бұрын
The Fighting 54 have died but they live forever.
@FourEyedFrenchman
@FourEyedFrenchman 2 жыл бұрын
I only mention this because it's a cool little detail and I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but at 22:21 and a few other points, you hear the term "secesh" used. It's derogatory slang for "secessionist," and was used much the same way terms like "commie" and "pinko" were used during the Cold War. If you lived in the Union states during the 1860s, being called secesh was one of the dirtiest names someone could call you.
@lewisbreland
@lewisbreland 2 жыл бұрын
Some call this "White saviorhood" but we whites were in power and some of my race had a conscious. This is a great movie and the history only starts here. Subscribing for this one!
@lewisbreland
@lewisbreland 2 жыл бұрын
This is how you do a historical movie. Thanks for such a good reaction! Subscribed.
@ExUSSailor
@ExUSSailor 2 жыл бұрын
Just a tremendous film, with an exemplary cast. A classic!
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! So many amazing actors in it too!
@Commander-vf1lk
@Commander-vf1lk 2 жыл бұрын
15:43 Yes, you’re right. He just wants to steal shoes but they found him where he isn’t supposed to be. That fact that it’s a military base & they don’t just have anyone running about freely. Soldiers are sworn an oath. Leaving is what you call desertion which is capital offense in the military. Desertion is the abandonment of a military duty or post without permission (a pass, liberty or leave) and is done with the intention of not returning. Desertion carries various maximum sentences, depending on the circumstances surrounding the charge. For instance: Punishments for deserting but voluntarily returning to the military may include: 1) Reduction to the lowest enlisted grade 2) Forfeiture of all pay and allowances 3) Dishonorable discharge 4) Confinement for two years Punishments for deserting and then terminating the desertion due to apprehension may include: All of the above punishments Confinement for three years Punishments for deserting with the intent to avoid hazardous duty, deployment, or important service may include: All of the above punishments Confinement for five years Punishments for deserting during wartime may include: Life in prison Capital punishment Other punishments at the discretion of the court-martial Being absent without leave for more than 30 days is considered desertion, and missing movement is the failure to board an assigned ship, aircraft, etc. But this era was way long ago. So the laws were different at that time but are similar.
@lazyperfectionist1
@lazyperfectionist1 Жыл бұрын
10:23 "Three shots in a _minute."_ Pausing to reload after _each_ one. This must've been before that breakthrough came down the pike that gave _Union_ troops rifles that reloaded after _each_ discharge; rifles they described as being able to load on _Monday_ and keep using _all week._
@allovett6246
@allovett6246 2 жыл бұрын
29:30 Ummm Hmmm, Oh my Lord, Lord, Lord, Lord He packed in the animals two by two. An ox, a camel and a kangaroo. Packed them in that ark so tight, I couldn't get no sleep that night,. Grown up sons Shem and Ham, tell me about God's master plan. Oh my Lord, Lord, Lord, Lord. Oh my Lord, Lord, Lord, Lord. Ummm Hmmm
@thomaseggle8886
@thomaseggle8886 2 жыл бұрын
One would have to understand that the drill sergeant and the Colonel have seen the horrors of combat and what man is capable of doing to each other. They have to be stearn and yes over the top to not only toughen them up but to also teach them how to function as a unit under extreme chaos and violence. Shaw also has to follow the chain of of command with Thomas during training because without that structure and adherence to it.....they would be slaughtered in battle.
@saaamember97
@saaamember97 2 жыл бұрын
If there are any doubters about the acting capabilities of Denzel Washington, let this movie put those misconceptions to rest. In that one whipping scene, Denzel had no lines to speak. However, his pure force of presence took over and tore that scene UP! DAMN!
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
His PRESENCE… undeniable!
@Smenkhaare
@Smenkhaare Жыл бұрын
Is you an old man or an old woman.... I forget.... I ran for president... did not win though....
@Boomerbox2024
@Boomerbox2024 2 жыл бұрын
You asked if they knew what sizes of shoes were needed. Back then, shoes were fairly new, and they were either custom made by a cobbler, or tried on until a fit was found. You know the foot measuring thingy at the shoe store? It is called a Brannock Device, named for its inventor. It was a God send for the military because it allowed them to outfit tens of thousands of men with properly fitting footwear for the first time since the Romans wore sandals.
@rodlepine233
@rodlepine233 2 жыл бұрын
the move is based on Historical fact so the real 54th died in battle
@wanderer3004
@wanderer3004 2 жыл бұрын
History is life and life can be so complicated. No pun intended, but it's seldom, if ever, a black and white issue.
@TwistedSisterHaratiofales
@TwistedSisterHaratiofales 2 жыл бұрын
You should react to Gods and Generals, and Gettysburg also.
@cathyvickers9063
@cathyvickers9063 Жыл бұрын
This is a historical docudrama. It has to follow history. This was a real battle to take a real fort...that never fell. No such thing as "main character armor" in a docudrama.
@joshblaylock948
@joshblaylock948 2 жыл бұрын
one of the best movies ever
@mralfonzohoward5175
@mralfonzohoward5175 2 жыл бұрын
The cast of this was great everyone did there part Denzel shined in all of his scenes
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously!!! I didn’t know young Denzel and now I need more!
@rodgerlang884
@rodgerlang884 Жыл бұрын
@@NiaMakiReacts Then you should watch Philadelphia, moving movie with both Denzel and Tom Hanks at the top of their games. I think it is very lost in the shuffle, but it's a movie that needs to be seen and remembered.
@marshalljankins4526
@marshalljankins4526 8 ай бұрын
God bless your sweet spirit sist'a...
@carladams5891
@carladams5891 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome for the challenge coin holder! It was odd, I ordered a coin and the holder but only the coin came back undeliverable. I will be trying again with another coin or two!! Next time I'll add a gift note or something!
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!!! I don’t know why that happened, so strange.. I may consider switching to a different P.O. Box… 🤔 thank you though! I truly appreciate it
@carladams5891
@carladams5891 2 жыл бұрын
@@NiaMakiReacts You're very welcome! I was in the Air Force, so I'll be sending an Air Force coin....or two! I may have them sent to me, then mail them instead of shipping from amazon. Keep up the amazing reactions!!
@Sidraughen
@Sidraughen 2 жыл бұрын
Denzel is so damn good in this movie. All the actors are but he is absolute top-notch.
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t get enough of him,
@powerbadpowerbad
@powerbadpowerbad 2 жыл бұрын
Met quite a few guys like Denzel's character while in the military ( I usually avoided them like a plague ) LOL.Loud-mouthed,arrogant,making ignorant comments and a bully.
@davidmichaelson1092
@davidmichaelson1092 Жыл бұрын
Shoes, sir. I am not sure if this is true, but I have heard that the battle of Gettysburg happened because both sides heard they could get shoes there, so they converged on the town at the same time. Pretty sure that was from the groundbreaking Ken Burns documentary. I also have heard that the first time ever that shoes were fitted to the feet was around the Civil War. Again, not sure if true or not.
@aubreyjones2206
@aubreyjones2206 2 жыл бұрын
A memorial for the 54th Massachusetts was vandalized during the BLM riots in 2020. A note, corporal punishment was a staple in militaries, like the Irish sergeant major was from the British Army. Denzel’s character is a like Wm Carney the first black soldier to win the Medal of Honor.
@haraldisdead
@haraldisdead Жыл бұрын
The anonymous White officer in the wide brimmed hat is my favorite character
@Jargolf86
@Jargolf86 2 жыл бұрын
"I tought he had Main- Character Protection" Sadly Deer, there is no such Thing in Historical Movies... like in the Events they show.
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
I went in this totally blind with no context about what it was about or if it was based on real events. I typically like that so I don’t have any bias but maybe I’ll have to start looking at previews…
@lazyperfectionist1
@lazyperfectionist1 Жыл бұрын
6:57 "For _god's_ sake, man! Do you not know your right from your left?" "N-n-n-no, Sir." This is a maddening impediment to the function of _any_ military unit. If you're marching, together, then your left foot moves forward when the left foot of the man _ahead_ of you moves forward, or you will end up stepping on his _heel._ 7:07 "Do we need to get so _physical?"_ It was a different time.
@castorpollux5972
@castorpollux5972 2 жыл бұрын
I sent the display. You're so welcome. ❤
@Waterford1992
@Waterford1992 Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite films ever as the Confederates won the end battle.
@blueroninstudios
@blueroninstudios Жыл бұрын
Fuck the Confederates, they were all traitors and slavers. Congrats, they claimed one win, and they still lost the entire war. While your comment is historically accurate, I stand by my final statement: fuck the confederates, they sucked.
@norcalboy2572
@norcalboy2572 8 ай бұрын
As they line up for the assault on the beach, Shaw says, "I'll see you in the fort, Thomas." He's not talking about the fort.
@JulieShock
@JulieShock Жыл бұрын
18 months the 54&55th mass saint get paid. They were finally paid the full army wage and given all back pay. The pay was go one to the survivors listed on army appears for those who passed in those 18 months
@seosamh.forbes
@seosamh.forbes 11 ай бұрын
I love how she points out how well the letter aged. "You mustn't think any of us should get killed" *Proceeds to Antietam, the battle that is STILL the bloodiest day with the highest loss of life in American history* And yes, even in today's army enlisted soldiers are not supposed to be buddy-buddy with their commanding officers, even if they know each other.
@TwistedSisterHaratiofales
@TwistedSisterHaratiofales 2 жыл бұрын
As rough as it is to watch the punishment for desertion was usually a firing squad, no ifs and buts. Flogging was also used on white troops. It is seen in such a bad light here because it was used on slaves, as regular whips (which was worse, but not by much) and in the scene Col. Shaw regrets having to do it when he sees the scars on Trip. He would have been pressured though into either having him shot, and or hanging him though if he didn't have him flogged.
@lazyperfectionist1
@lazyperfectionist1 Жыл бұрын
6:29 "I won't permit that kind of fraternization." "It's only Thomas." "He is an _enlisted_ man." This brief conversation points to an _unfortunate_ state in the Armed Forces of most _any_ country. To be an officer, unless you've come up through the _enlisted_ ranks to be a _warrant_ officer (which can take _many_ years), you've gotten a _commission._ You don't qualify for a commission without some kind of _bachelor's_ degree. You get a bachelor's degree, you go through a brief, initial training period, and in the Army, this makes you a second _lieutenant._ That's the lowest possible _officer_ rank. If, on the other hand, you join the Armed Forces _without_ having gotten a bachelor's degree, then you go through a brief initial training period, at the end of which, you're _enlisted._ Now the lowest _enlisted_ rank in the Army, is a _private,_ and most of the time, as soon as you graduate from Army Boot Camp, _this_ is your rank, but there are steps you can take so, at graduation, you're a rank _above_ it (still a private, but now you actually have _insignia),_ or _two_ ranks above it (a private first _class)._ Officers, as the term would suggest, tend to have duties revolving around _offices,_ while enlisted do the actual, physical _work._ One unfortunate consequence of this, though, is that officers and enlisted have to maintain a professional _distance._ Colonel Shaw and Major Forbes are in charge of about 1000 troops. That means that each of them is allowed to take up no more than 1/1000th of his _time,_ and he's not allowed to play _favorites._ Unfortunately, that also means that _Thomas,_ as an enlisted man, is now allowed no more than 1/1000th of his time. He's not allowed to expect preferential treatment because of their prior _friendship._ That's what this means.
@lazyperfectionist1
@lazyperfectionist1 Жыл бұрын
29:03 "The _casualties_ in the leading regiment may be extreme." I've wondered about _this_ battle, as _well._ I mean, an infantry regiment could _try_ to take this fort with a direct assault, but they've done an _extraordinarily_ good job of limiting their _vulnerability._ That _pathway_ is the only way in or _out._ Fort Wagner has done the most _incredible_ job limiting the _assaults_ they're vulnerable to while making the most of their ability to inflict casualties on whoever _assaults_ them. But have they not, in the process, also imposed limits on their ability to receive _supplies?_ If that pathway is the only way for an _assault_ to come in, is it not, likewise, the only way for new _provisions_ to come in? Can it not, likewise, be _barricaded?_ I realize this would be a far longer _time_ commitment than a direct assault, but if it's true that the Union was _wealthier_ than the Confederacy, might this make them more able to _afford_ a prolonged barricade in Confederate-held territory? Would this barricade, likewise, if it can be sustained, starve _out_ the soldiers holding up in Fort Wagner?
@lazyperfectionist1
@lazyperfectionist1 Жыл бұрын
15:40 Look at Trip. It's like he hardly _feels_ it. He winces and sheds a tear or two, and that's _it._
@christopherpeters6365
@christopherpeters6365 2 жыл бұрын
I 🖤 this movie!😋😋😋
@ianblake815
@ianblake815 2 жыл бұрын
A phenomenal war film 💯
@montist1
@montist1 2 жыл бұрын
You were way to hard on Shaw. He was a hero!
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I didn’t know about the rules. It was mainly Thomas and the Denzel whipping scene that got me but by the end I did come around
@herecomesaregular8418
@herecomesaregular8418 Жыл бұрын
A note about the "Thomas" character: One of the dramatic liberties that the film makers took with their depiction of the 54th Mass, was that they made it a regiment comprised of runaway slaves. Men who were hardened by a lifetime in bondage. But in reality, the 54th Mass. was almost entirely made up of "freedmen" from New England; black men who had either spent most of their lives free, or were born free. Many of them were scholarly professionals very much like Thomas. In fact, I would wager Thomas was the most accurate depiction of the average enlistee in the actual 54th Massachusetts. (It should be noted, however, that most black regiments that would be formed after the 54th would indeed be made up of newly freed enslaved peoples, as these regiments were primarily formed in the south after Union armies began to occupy formerly Confederate territories.)
@matthewgillespie9405
@matthewgillespie9405 2 жыл бұрын
Flogging was a common punishment in the military at that time. It was even used quite often in the civilian world at that time.
@lazyperfectionist1
@lazyperfectionist1 Жыл бұрын
1:39 It has _long puzzled_ me that the Union Army even _allowed_ tactics like this. Marching, slowly, toward their canons in well ordered _rows?_ Like you're marching off to _inspection,_ not _combat?_ I mean this is the sort of thing the _Red_ Coats used in the field during the _Revolutionary_ War. It gave us an _advantage._ Now the British Colonial Army had substantially more _troops._ Their muskets were _comparable,_ and they had better _logistical_ support. One key reason _Washington's_ troops were able to oppose them, though, was that they (the Red Coats) employed tactics like _this._ They marched toward us in well-ordered _rows_ and operated under the commands, "Red, aim, _fire!"_ while we dressed to match the terrain, fired from every available, natural hiding place, and operated under the commands, "Ready, aim, _open_ fire!" Tactics like this turned out to be a _tremendous_ operational mistake, then. Why have _we_ come to adopt them?
@jasonalcantara8380
@jasonalcantara8380 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this movie as a kid. Nothing like a good old rousing pep talk by Morgan Freeman. Denzel is a freaking legend.
@NiaMakiReacts
@NiaMakiReacts 2 жыл бұрын
Truth!! I wish I could have his pep talks and Denzel’s fire
@Smenkhaare
@Smenkhaare Жыл бұрын
I also liked the last glare that Morgan gave Denzel after telling him what an ass he was. For a minute when I first saw it... I thought Morgan was my father. :D
@campagnollo
@campagnollo 3 ай бұрын
@16:13, while fraternization is greatly frown upon, seeking advice from the enlisted, specifically senior enlisted, is highly encouraged. That is what Morgan Freeman's character was doing and probably how he earned the rank of Sergeant Major, who's job is to advise the officers on the enlisted ranks like moral, welfare etc.
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