FIRST-TIME WATCHING *Pride & Prejudice* and Rizzo is OBSESSED!

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Watch us watch the ALTERNATE ENDING here... kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWa7fX6haMisnLssi=je8DFnQJXYXWH-WS

[@Reba-123]

You really need to watch the BBC 1995 series version of this … it’s 6 hours of the best adaptation…. Makes the movie look inferior

[@leddag5512]

You HAVE to watch Death Comes to Pemberly

[@ViaVolterra]

Hopeless romantic introverts grow up wanting to be Like Elizabeth Bennett Until we slowly realise we have the social skills of Mr Darcy

[@PinkPopcast]

Hope you grew up busting into rooms only to stare in silence 😂

[@ViaVolterra]

@@PinkPopcast even worse, when im talking to ppl i like i accidentally insult them Mr Darcy is our autistic Austen representation idc

[@jessw6932]

I feel so called out right now. 😂

[@LeadrynMcKrotch]

Yeah I wanted to be Elizabeth as well. But looking back I've realized I've been Charlotte and settling so I'm not alone.

[@di3486]

@@LeadrynMcKrotchI grew up dreaming of being Lizzy. Ended up being Charlotte and happy as can be with my peaceful life😏

[@rincaimo812]

Why we love Mr. Darcy, he LISTENS AND TRIES. He is awkward as fuck but BLESS HIM HE IS TRYING SO DAMN HARD.

[@PinkPopcast]

Exactly!!

[@Des17S]

Still don't think he tried hard enough to understand her sister though cause how you gonna not understand someone not being able to show their emotions and affections the way others do when you're the same? That's the part that I was struck on.

[@lightningg252]

​@@Des17SI think that's the whole point of that blunder though, his pride in not seeing beyond himself and his closest circle and the prejudice he formed on first acquaintance with the Bennets suspecting them to be like every other person of lesser means trying to cozy up to them for their wealth. Which turned out to be true. However, Lizzie proved to be much more of an independant person with honor and decorum, he knew she would not agree to marriage unless her feelings were true. But Jane is so shy, he probably thought she was being steered more easily by her family (just as Lady Catherine was with him).🤷‍♀️

[@Des17S]

@@lightningg252 I still think it's a bit of a plot hole is all. I feel like Jane should have leaned into that moment for me to be satisfied. I want to see the look of realization on camera. I wish she just would have leaned into the "Really dog? Look atchu fam.". It's not that I want it spoon fed to me cause we can assume that he realizes that her sister is much like him in terms of finding it hard to show affection but I think having some sort of light bulb moment would be the best way to show that's another part of his prejudice.

[@lightningg252]

@@Des17S It's not said but implied through subtext. You kind of get that lightbulb recognition when Lizzie says, "My sister hardly shows her true feelings to me!" To me I read that look as "Okay, I might have misread Jane after all", which is understandable given his mindset at the time. Also, doesnt matter how similar we are to another person we can still be blind to it via bad first or second impressions, which is the whole point of the story.

[@Snowfoxkit]

The fact that he manages to insult her *mid-proposal* and is still stunned that she says no 😂. Like he thinks he’s saying “I love you so much that it borders on irrational” but it comes out as “I don’t even care that your family sucks and is poor!”

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😂😂

[@IslesYankeeLady]

Eh, yes and no. Not book wise, anyway. He actually does know he’s saying “I don’t care that your family sucks and is poor.” He actually expects her to agree and be flattered that he singled her out in spite of the “obvious” societal obstacles they present, because that’s simply how society works from his POV. He grew up thinking anyone with a small dowry would be thrilled to marry him. It’s only “logical.” Money and rank must mean you’re better. Lizzie knows her 3 younger sisters and parents are a bit much. But no one has corrected his bluntness before, because he’s rarely with anyone who will ignore societal class. He’s never had to address his privilege or think about how his words affect others. He mentions at the end of the book and in other tv versions that his parents were good people, but they spoiled him too much. He really thinks he’s paying her a compliment to say that. For Lizzie, she considers politeness a basic part of gentlemanly behavior, so it doesn’t matter that he has any money at all. He’s failed gentleman 101. And technically, he’s not ranked any higher than she is. He’s a gentleman, she’s a gentleman’s daughter.

[@KlevisaMaklekaj-el4kt]

@@IslesYankeeLady as someone whos read the book i fully agree BUT let us laugh at the movie mr darcy🤣

[@carriesnaps3508]

"The way I would've said yes to him and figured out the rest later." HONESTLY SAME 😂😂

[@PinkPopcast]

😂😂

[@sophiekoett1740]

I felt this😂

[@originaozz]

I think Mr.Darcy's universal appeal is how he really put in the effort to change. He was a snob, but with someone like Elisabeth challenging him it made him reflect on his actions. Seeing tried so hard and fumbled every time was such a delight!

[@PinkPopcast]

Exactly, he didn’t double down on his bad qualities. He was completely open to change with just one comment from her. It was wonderful

[@lauralouwhooo]

I think part of why this story has endured for centuries is that it is an incredibly well-written characterization of people whose flaws (and cultural/social norms) cause a huge rift when ultimately, they are both well meaning people with some blind spots. So often conflict feels contrived or not true to the characters. Yet this story is crafted so expertly that they're misunderstandings build to dramatic proportions and huge consequences for their lives. Get in the end both are redeemable because they did not act out of maliciousness though perhaps some pride and some prejudice. I may be biased because this is the first film version of the story that I ever saw but I really think this version is incredible in so many ways. The cast is amazing, the costuming is perfect, the sets and the cinematography are absolutely gorgeous. You can see what the chemistry of the actors in ever scene. Not to knock Bridgerton but I just tried watching it for a second time and struggled. I understand it is supposed to be totally completely different and a bodice ripper rather than a more truthful "historical" fiction. Also supposed to be centered on sex which isn't bad but I definitely feel like bridgeton could learn so much from a movie like this for that has so much real tension that isn't communicated by breathing really hard with a heaving bosom 💀 The tension between Lizzy & Darcy is always palpable in their glances, their witty rapport, their jabs at each other. I just "buy" it. If Bridgerton could give me all of that tension and then rip the bodice off I'd be thrilled. But I suppose I'm holding them up to an impossible standard by holding them up to this movie.

[@caycecarson]

Benjis’s “he’s trying!” 😭😭 you guys understand Mr Darcy way better than a lot of first time reactors

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🤓🤓❤️❤️

[@emmabennet888]

Not just in that comment, too! Benji perceived a lot more than most first-time reactors. I loved the contrast of Rizzo as a returning fan and Benji a skeptical first-time watcher.

[@elleofgondor7585]

I love how in the scene where Elizabeth tells Darcy he should practice talking to people he tries to do exactly that in the next scene. Like he was really taking Elizabeth's remark to heart

[@PinkPopcast]

😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@idasnderstruphorskjr-bro4160]

Yes! and I really love how Benji picked that up immediately!

[@veroniquelauzon2801]

I think he wanted to ask her to marry him but could not find the courage this time

[@roxirock5455]

Fun fact: when Elizabeth visits Pemberly for the first time, the same music that played at the beginning plays. The director said that he wanted to show how Pemberly felt like home to Elizabeth despite not being even significantly similar to her house. Because finding the person you're supposed to be with feels like going home.

[@MSinger4472]

I love this fact!

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

What a great touch! Joe Wright did such an outstanding job on this film.

[@lizzyrank5405]

OMG that's so sweet. It's also so true. I try not to be a total romantic but I've even had friendships where you meet your people and you know yall can ride out this life together!💜

[@abbyburns3127]

Dario Marianelli did such a killer job with this score. It is one of my absolute favorites.

[@mollyjasinski7525]

Omg this is one of my all-time fave movies that I’ve seen so many times and yet somehow I’d never heard/realized this before. I’m wrecked 😭😭😭😭😭

[@JenniferPinto]

5:35 Well in those times, the eldest unmarried daughter of the house would be automatically addressed as Miss (Surname). Any other unmarried sisters would simply be addressed as Miss (First Name). So Jane is Miss Bennet and Elizabeth is Miss Elizabeth or Miss Elizabeth Bennet. And once Jane gets married Elizabeth becomes Miss Bennet.

[@PinkPopcast]

Ooooooh! That makes sense 🎉

[@alixaugustine9599]

And if the eldest sister isn’t present, the next eldest is called Miss Bennett, or if they are alone. So Elizabeth is called Miss Bennett by everyone when she’s traveling.

[@kaymanuel17]

23:33 the scene where he abruptly shows up, he intentionally visits when no one is home but chicken out from proposing

[@PinkPopcast]

Omg he was there to propose!? 😲

[@HelgaCavoli]

Yes 😂😂

[@Mikey4Geelove]

In the book he totally proposed but got rejected. 😂

[@islasullivan3463]

One thing I love about Jane Austen’s works is how they have misunderstandings tie directly into the flaws of the characters so it doesn’t feel forced, or just for the sake of drama.

[@PinkPopcast]

Exactly! The writing focuses on character not contrivance and it works so much better!

[@m1sslunatic803]

YES! omg i had been wondering why i love this story when i hate miscommunication/misunderstandings but that honestly explains it.

[@em8066]

YES! There are so many paradigm shifts in Darcy & Elizabeth’s proposal argument scene. It’s delicious watching them go from talking past each other based on their own perspectives, to finally connecting on the same page based on growth, effort to see the other side, and the humility to admit where they were wrong. So much more romantic than screaming “I love you!” from the lawn or combat kissing.

[@helenahansen7572]

Fun fact regarding the hand shots: Back in the regency era men and women were generally wearing gloves when out in public or at balls. It was considered very personal and intimate to touch hands skin-on-skin with the opposite sex - and could be seen as very inappropriate between non-married couples. The 'hand shot' where Darcy helps Lizzie into the carriage, is the first time they touch without wearing gloves. Hence the hand-flex because of the 'spaarrrkss'

[@PinkPopcast]

😍😍😍

[@roadrollerdio565]

Speaking of hand scenes, in Martin Scorsese's Age of Innocence set in 1870s New York, when Newland unbuttons Olenska's glove is one of the most tense scenes put to film. That's another fantastic period romance drama you should watch!

[@LeadrynMcKrotch]

Think of it as the regency version of a kiss good bye. It's practically the same level of intimacy as far as our society's concept of affection versus theirs. To us yes it could be platonic but usually it's not

[@allyhvis6046]

​@@roadrollerdio565What, Scorcese directed a romance film???

[@gcatherinev]

THE HANDDDDDDDD------ i swear we were obsessed with that shot and that moment, I saw at least a hundred gifs of that on Tumblr

[@lecciciapires2166]

19:30 "I'm twenty seven years old" Benji: "Twenty and seven" Me: "Seven and twenty"

[@PinkPopcast]

Right haha

[@alifahabdullah2328]

Yes, seven and twenty. You've been watching Bridgerton.😊

[@lecciciapires2166]

@@alifahabdullah2328 yeah! "I am seven..." 😱"... and ten" 😊 Queen Charlotte almost gave me a heart attack in this scene, i was so confused lol

[@nyashajoseph9684]

SAME!!!

[@asdabir]

@@lecciciapires2166fun fact they didn’t use this format for numbers under twenty which makes it sound really weird even to people more used to the language of that time.

[@josie7970]

"I understand why women love this movie so much." I'm so glad you get it Rizzo. Ive seen other guys on reaction channels watch this movie and they dont see why girls and gays attracted to Darcy's awkwardness at ALL

[@PinkPopcast]

😭😭

[@gnommg]

I've actually seen buff, manly men geek out about this movie. It is one of the few romantic movies whichs appeal seems to be independant of gender.

[@FloatingInSpace5702]

Me screaming “THAT SCENE WAS GROUNDBREAKING” when Benji was like “oh is this a the-only-two-people-in-the-room-thing”

[@PinkPopcast]

😂😂 I know it from twilight but obviously it’s from this!

[@jobangharekhan2601]

@@PinkPopcasttwilight when?

[@JO-qd2bv]

@@PinkPopcast It's not from Twilight or this movie. It's been done several times before. It was even done in an early 90-s Michael J. Fox Movie (Doc Hollywood). And that was far from the first time.

[@mila6589]

Keira's funny faces is what makes this movie so relatable and modern to watch. You feel like you are gossiping or laughing with a bestie. The book also gives the same feeling, it's easy english

[@PinkPopcast]

Her face is immaculate. And such a fun departure from her other roles!

[@lightningg252]

I think it's the same with the other cast members as well, regardless of their station it makes them feel like normal people not so different from us despite the time and culture gap. While it may get snubbed a bit for historical innaccuracy I felt they succeeded in capturing the heart of the story. I love the other adaptations too but this one is my favorite simply because there is no extra theatrical barrier where you can tell they are "acting" the role, they just become the character.

[@circlenowsquared]

See, I found the movie much more accessible than the book, even if it's easy English, it didn't hit me quite the same way. I'm glad we have this more modern interpretation of it (I know there have been other movies, but this one speaks to me the most).

[@mlove.1376]

​@@PinkPopcastthe scene with her watching Darcy's sister is amazing. From his sister is just a youngster not what the nasty Bingley sister made her out be to make Jane upset, to isnt Darcy sweet how he loves his sister, to oh crap he saw me. Her expressions were amazing.

[@acrynellys]

"Benji discovering what women have known for the last 20 years" lol the last 211 years...😆

[@PinkPopcast]

My mistake hahahahaha

[@PinkPopcast]

😂😂 right!

[@acrynellys]

All joking aside, this reaction is fantastic as usual 😄💖👏👏👏

[@ticketyboo2456]

More like over 200 years but ikwym.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Benji 🤝 Elizabeth Bennet “That’s lame, MR. Darcy.”

[@PinkPopcast]

👏👏

[@rebeccas8431]

"Do men come over the house and just stare for a while and then leave?" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@isabelmartinez-venegas3599]

Not Benji clocking the “there’s a possibility” scene immediately 😂

[@PinkPopcast]

😂😂 I FELT it in my soul

[@MeganTheLibrarian3]

I busted out laughing at that! To be fair, this came first, so if anyone was copying...it was Twilight. 😄

[@naturallyamused]

I never thought of that (since I've been watching P&P yearly since 2005 😅 well before Twilight) and it's so hilariously spot on 😂 And then again when she's on the swing and time is literally passing by!! Hilarious.

[@PinkPopcast]

@@naturallyamused they’re both creative scenes that represent the passing of time and depression

[@nadiar.4638]

"I want them all to be vampires" While it might not be vampires, there is an adaptation called Pride and Prejudice and Zombies 😅

[@PinkPopcast]

Zombies aren't sexy lololol

[@Ashely56]

You clearly havent watch the Zom Rom Com "Warm Bodies" Nicholas Holt plays a hot Zombie who falls for a human​@@PinkPopcast

[@danaehanson1855]

It’s so good …..y’all would love it ……and you get a wedding…..watch it per favore

[@annaliesecancilla894]

@@PinkPopcastyou have no imagination 😂

[@queenofgreen83]

@@PinkPopcastmaybe not, but Darcy and Elizabeth verbally/physically sparring, whilst also slaying zombies, IS sexy. 😏

[@PinkPopcast]

Y'all... do you know how hard it is to edit FOUR HOURS of footage!?!?!? We will post Bridgerton as soon as we can but goddamn 🤣

[@LuvNickynGina4ever]

😂

[@prachikumari6034]

Omg I can't wait ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥😊

[@prachikumari6034]

I have already watched s03 part 1...twice TWICE... I beg of u guys please I now NEED your reaction...like RIGHT NOW 😟❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥🫀

[@PinkPopcast]

@@prachikumari6034 Patience is a goddamn virtue!!!! 😘

[@lexymartin6841]

I want it now 😂😂😂 jk. Please take your time my loves

[@tateperson]

i don't wanna insult Darcy's actor, but he's not like "aesthetically" handsome but damn he got me completely falling for him in this movie

[@PinkPopcast]

So true!

[@beckmannm]

He's so good at the most important thing in a romcom love interest: gazing at the lead like 😍

[@hana3703]

Never considered him handsome the first time he appeared in the screen and thought it'll be hard for me to watch the movie but after watching it, I'm actually whipped. I want to be Lizzy. I want to have Mr. Darcy 😭

[@tateperson]

@@hana3703 yessss i feel the exact same

[@annieromo74]

I did think he was handsome, but when he finally smiled I was GONE! LOL!

[@Panik637]

“Were you here to murder me?” Is the best take of the small talk scene of all time holy shit

[@PinkPopcast]

😂😂

[@stefannydvorak7919]

Great reaction. To answer some of your questions: The Bennet family is part of a social class that no longer exist today called "The Landed Gentry." It's a class of land owners who make money off of the land they own. Mr. Bennet is a gentleman, therefore he doesn't have a job. Neither do his wife and daughters. Today, they would be considered part of the upper middle class or lower upper class. Their money problem isn't that they're poor, but that their entail stipulates that only a male heir can inherit after him. Having had FIVE daughters, that leaves them in a bad spot. Bingley's father was a working man, but he made a fortune. That ensured that his children would have class mobility and never have to work. Mr. Darcy comes from an aristocratic family, so he also doesn't have a job. He just runs his humongous estate (which brings him money). Fun fact, as the 19th century went on, the fortunes of many European aristocratic and gentile families started to dwindle. And, since they weren't expected to work, they couldn't gain funds. Meanwhile, the USA was starting to become the world power that it is today. America entered the Gilded Age and a lot of working families made fortunes. Although actual work was looked down upon by the gentry and the aristocracy and the nobility, working men started to out-money them. That resulted in many noble, aristocratic and gentile European men marrying American women of lower social classes, but heiresses of big fortunes. The industrial revolution really helped blur the lines between social classes! Ps. Cinderella’s dad is a rich merchant. He’s a man with an actual job!

[@tracy4290]

(one small note: the difference between "gentile" and "gentle")

[@stefannydvorak7919]

@@tracy4290 I actually mean to write “genteel”, not “gentil” or “gentle.” Genteel people are those who are part of the gentry social class.

[@LadyDsSocietyVlog]

By the way, this is my new channel where I talk about (mainly) 19th century history, if any of you are interested.

[@cheryljones6654]

GREAT explanation

[@DelGuy03]

What a great explanation. This kind of socio-economic background is essential to understand, to make sense of the way people behave in this story. (This movie fudged things a wee bit, bringing grime and animals into the Bennet house. In the book they do have a farm on the estate which brings them income and supplies, but the whole point of the landed gentry is to maintain the genteel façade that preserves their social standing, and hide what's happening behind the scenes.) Mr Bennet's estate is entailed, to be inherited by the nearest male relative -- Mr Collins, a distant cousin whom he has never met. The plan had been for them to have a son, who would then inherit Longbourn and ensure that even unmarried daughters would have a home. That is why they had five daughters, in hopes of that valuable son. But that didn't work out, so at least two of the daughters need to make advantageous marriages, so that after Mr Bennet's death their young unmarried sisters will have a place to live. (They can't get jobs -- that would erase their social class. And their parents should have been saving more for their future, but they didn't.) Mrs Bennet's brother and his wife, the Gardiners (with whom Lizzy travels), are still "in trade" in London -- Lizzy expects Mr Darcy to snub them when he meets them, and is agreeably surprised when he doesn't and on the contrary seeks out their company. (It's another sign of his changing attitudes.) As Rizzo said, when we're young and read or see P&P, we think of Mrs Bennet as just awful, but on learning more about that era, we come to understand that though she's crass and tactless, she's not wrong -- getting her daughters married is the whole key to the family's future.

[@thatgirlnextfloor]

it was a recent topic where the girls were asked what make up they used in the movie . and they said it was just blush and everything else was just their natural face. and like the blush was made from beets or something. like OK, they were really just THAT pretty hahaha

[@PinkPopcast]

Hahaha they really are!

[@naturallyamused]

Aww they're very young! Young women and girls have no idea how naturally beautiful they are! All that glowy bouncy skin becomes so obviously stunning when you're approaching your 40s like me. If you have a good skin care routine, no make up is necessary I promise!

[@user-ed7et3pb4o]

They definitely have eyeliner at some parts

[@brittanyhoward1741]

So fun fact, the book that Elizabeth is reading in the very begining of the movie is actually a first edition book *of* Pride and Prejudice. Meaning that the main character of the movie is reading about herself in the book.

[@roxirock5455]

The original title was "First impressions" which also fits the story

[@naturallyamused]

I always find it distracting and funny when movies set in this time have yellowed, decrepit looking books -- they were NEW back then 😂

[@NuncaJamaisEmTempoAlgum]

Did you notice the scene where they dance together and "fight" at the same time is one shot only and one camera only?? It's insane how good this movie is and how they did it... Keira and Mathew had to do the whole sequence with no flaws or start again and again because it was 1 shot with no breaks... if you didn't notice it, and you're a movie buff go back, its so rewarding to watch that

[@DreamieQueen]

26:38 So in the book it's a little bit more clear. After Elizabeth leaves Netherfield with her sister, who's now recovered from her cold, Mr. Darcy who felt he was in danger of falling in love resoluted himself in trying to keep distance from Elizabeth or to at least not to open himself to the idea of marriage/raise Elizabeth's hopes to marry him. But he was completely wrong about Elizabeth's feelings and the reason for their banter and verbal sparring. The funny thing is that the more he spends time with her, the more he's falls in love, and the more she spends time with him, the more she dislikes him and has prejudice. (The movie makes it seems like they are both very attracted to each other tho) When comes the Netherfield ball, Mr.Darcy sees the Bennet family making a clown of themselves, the father is disinterested, the mother is silly, the two youngest sisters are militia crazy and chase after officers, Mary is pompous and wants to play the piano whenever she can, and she isn't bad but people don't really enjoy listening to her. Only Jane and Elizabeth are respectable, decent and lovely in their family. And hearing Sir William Lucas talk about the soon to be marriage between Jane and Bingley, Mr.Darcy took it upon himself to protect his friend after observing that Jane didn't seem as attached to his friend, and he also followed Bingley to London to distance himself from Elizabeth too. (Note that Bingley is only recently rich and doesn't necessarily know how high society works. Darcy is a good friend and pretty much teaches him/mentor him and advices him. Bingley's father was a merchant who worked really hard all his life, and his children now get to live from this new money. Which explains why Bingley is a little bit like a golden retriever, nice to everyone, while Caroline is more snobbish and trying to belong to this high society. And fun fact, the Bingleys are richer than the Bennets, but the Bennets actually are part of the middle class gentry, owning a fairly decent estate. The Bingleys have no estate to their name, hence why they are renting Netherfield ) Anyways, the reason why Mr.Darcy found himself proposing to Elizabeth is because he spent time with her at Rosings and at the Collins, and that far from the Bennet family. He didn't have that constant reminder that the Bennets were silly people and only focused on Elizabeth. And persuading himself more and more that she was WAITING for him to propose to her, which he fervently did but also degrading her by talking bad of her family, her lack of fortune, the difference in rank, etc. While proposing, he was SURE that she would accept him. Oh was he wrong. And he also didn't take into account that he had separated Jane and Mr Bingley because he was also sure that Jane wasn't attracted to Bingley the way Bingley was, and therefore, didn't think Jane would get hurt, due to her lack of interest (according to what he observed). So really, Mr. Darcy was very arrogant in the way he proposed, in his certainty that she would accept him and Elizabeth had all the rights to reject him. Even if she was wrong for siding with Wickham, but to be fair, she didn't know he had lied to her.

[@sydneytalks4254]

One of my favorite things about this movies (that i havent seen mentioned yet at least lol) is that Matthew has incredibly horrible eyesight. During the walking in the mist scene at the end, he couldnt tell which direction to walk, so the director or cameraman had on a BRIGHT red shirt so he knew where to go💀

[@PinkPopcast]

Awwwe

[@lurategh]

I love the atmosphere of this movie. It's so serene and idyllic, and the beautiful score by Dario Marianelli contributes a ton to it. This was my comfort movie for a while.

[@PinkPopcast]

It’s a new comfort movie for me!

[@funsalmon]

I had several of those songs played at my wedding

[@lesbiangoddess290]

​@@funsalmonthats adorable. I will do the same

[@gcatherinev]

the score!! Dawn and the song Georgina plays were my favourite to learn on piano

[@lurategh]

@@gcatherinev I learned some of the pieces a long time ago too!! SO beautiful. It's been forever though and I suck at piano, so I'm sure it'd take me tons of practice all over just to get it half right again.

[@TacticusPrime]

Rosamund Pike was amazing casting for this movie. With Keira Knightly playing Elizabeth, it had to have been a really tough job finding someone gorgeous enough that she was only the second prettiest daughter. They actually managed it.

[@hsonmari6665]

I think they are equally as beautiful but in contrast to each other. When they are side by side they enhance each others qualities.

[@TacticusPrime]

@@hsonmari6665 But my point is that Lizzie isn't generally cast so very pretty. There was plenty of criticism at the time that she wasn't a good fit. Jane is always the beautiful one.

[@smoothlikebutter.830]

​@@hsonmari6665Elizabeth Bennet was considered a beauty in Meryton, but she was inferior to Jane's beauty. I think Jane was called the 'most beautiful' cuz she was the classic English rose beauty. Like, Jane had hit ALL the British beauty standard requirements (and Lizzy didn't). At least, that's what I understood.

[@hsonmari6665]

@@TacticusPrime oh yeah- in terms of the characters I agree with you. I def still think the actresses are equally beautiful. I think the actor playing the BBC version Elizabeth was far more attractive than Jane- I wonder if there was commentary on that at the time.

[@user-ed7et3pb4o]

@@smoothlikebutter.830true, although in those days ‘dark’ beauty was also actually very prized - dark eyes and hair. I think dark blonde/‘mousy’ hair etc was considered common, but either of the extremes (very blonde or very dark) were considered attractive

[@npflaum]

I always loved the bits with Darcy and his sister. It's the only time you see him relaxed and with a genuine smile. Would.

[@PinkPopcast]

🥰🥰

[@thirty_ish2890]

The way “he’s a human you’re a mermaid.” made me laugh out loud 😂

[@PinkPopcast]

😂😂

[@Raealwaysreads]

That one was so good 😂 And right before when he says Mrs. Bennet would burn the house down if Mr. Bennet refused them.

[@amonbeck]

I also fucking love the first proposal scene because it shows that the two of them are still caught up on the expectations of their circumstances, their families, and society’s prejudices. That they both don’t really know what being in love means. And that they still have work to do! And then JANE GOD DAMN AUSTEN cracks her knuckles and wrote them FIXING those issues. Like Jesus Christos! I love when a writer reads her characters for filth, and then makes the characters FIX it. Not because they expect to be rewarded for doing the heavy lifting, but because it was the RIGHT thing to do! And the reason? Because they loved each other. It was the only selfish thing they wanted, and BOOM. You do the work, you get the girl! It’s so satisfying. ALSO the best conceit of this story is that the more Lizzie is willing to let go of her prejudices and her pride, the more she learns about Darcey. And the more wonderful a man he becomes! Which is why she says “Papa, I’ve been so wrong about him!”

[@PinkPopcast]

YESS🙌🙌🙌

[@PokhrajRoy.]

36:47 Mrs. Bennet setting the gold standard for “I’m not a cool mom. I’m a regular mom.”

[@PinkPopcast]

Hahahaha

[@hoorainbaig2024]

THAT HAND FLEX IS EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!

[@PinkPopcast]

🫶🏽

[@annieromo74]

Darcy sure felt the electric chemistry with Lizzie during that hand touching! :)

[@PokhrajRoy.]

6:50 As I said once: “The man optimal for the female or queer gaze is someone you can tease without consequence.”

[@PinkPopcast]

Huh.... that's an interesting way of putting it.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

@@PinkPopcast Ok maybe tease. I’ll edit my comment

[@18Hongo]

​@PokhrajRoy. 1. I'm now a little afraid of what the original quote was. 2. If this is true, I'm starting to see why my girlfriend finds me so attractive. Of course, there is a consequence for her teasing: I tease her back. Can't let her think I'm going soft 😂.

[@agenttheater5]

28:29 Little things that occur to Lizzy after reading the letter that we find out in the book - a) the fact that Wickham told her all that stuff about his personal life when they'd only met once before and were relative strangers b) the fact that he said he had no fear of meeting Darcy in public and then didn't attend the ball c) the fact that he said he wouldn't make Darcy's behaviour publicly known out of respect to the late Mr Darcy, but then soon after Darcy left the area with the Bingleys suddenly the whole town knew about it. And after he ran off with Lydia, the whole town that had adored him suddenly started talking about how he's owes half of the tradespeople in town money and he has gambling debts as well - which is the only reason he left Brighton because of his debts, just figured he'd take a pretty girl with him.

[@JadedKate]

YES ! Suddenly it "clicks" in her brain, she takes note of his words that don't seem to match his behavior, and is smart enough to figure out he's a narcissistic weasel. I LOVED that !

[@Cbshamy]

The synchronized head tilt when Jane gets the letter is iconic ❤️

[@PinkPopcast]

😂

[@sharleneswan1159]

I cannot BELIEVE that you guys havent done a reaction to Pride & Prejudice before and I am STOKED to watch this!!!

[@PinkPopcast]

it's such a perfect movie!

[@rayrayl.4087]

PRETTY PRETTY PLEASE watch Belle. It's about a daughter of a British naval officer and a slave finding love and navigating life in the 18th century. Fun fact- the film is based on a true story. One rarely gets the chance to see people of color in starring roles within serious period movies. It would mean so much to me if you guys shared the film with your audience and reacted to it.

[@PinkPopcast]

whoa we've never heard about that film. We will look it up!

[@ameliecarre4783]

Oh yes ! This one is gorgeous and with a great cast.

[@bethanychatman9531]

*enslaved person.

[@MA-xg7lt]

@@PinkPopcastit’s so good and it is based on a real woman ❤

[@ctrlst4r]

YESS

[@KaelaCrystal]

Y’all didn’t watch the U.S. ending where Darcy and Elizabeth are at Pemberley. 😭😭 It’s not a wedding scene but might be more the happy ending you wanted 👀

[@PinkPopcast]

wait WHAT!?!? We used a VPN I didn't realize there was a DIFFERENT VERSION!?!?!?!

[@jennakruse3577]

​@PinkPopcast personally love that ending, it's just a cute glimpse into them as a couple

[@RubyMadigan]

​@@PinkPopcast the ending you watched is much more true to the book and Austen in general. The extra scene was just added to the US release because producers thought American audiences needed at least one kiss. Personally I think it's a bit cheesy and doesn't fit the feel of the rest of the movie. The book has a small epilogue stating that both Lizzie and Jane's marriages are extremely happy. In fact it even says while no-one liked Wickham he didn't cheat on Lydia. It also says that Kitty (Carey Mulligan) spent much less time with Lydia and much more with Lizzie and Jane and became far more well rounded and less silly

[@sparklydancingmice]

@@PinkPopcastPLEASE WATCH AND REACT TO IT!!

[@dredre1696]

I think the epilogue in the book DOES say that Wickham cheated on Lydia. It implies ​it quite heavily. I wanted to write out the five good paragraphs that describe their married life for you but he "sunk into indifference" towards Lydia and occasionally goes all by his lonesome "to enjoy himself in London or Bath," dontcha know. For so many reasons and on so many levels, he's a bad partner. @@RubyMadigan

[@massomouse1556]

His eyes in the Georgiana piano playing scene, they kinda sorta almost put me on the edge of tears.... for him.

[@PinkPopcast]

He is ALWAYS on the verge of tears 😅

[@massomouse1556]

lol@@PinkPopcast

[@gabrihapa]

"Sense and Sensibility" is a must! I think you guys would love it, with Hugh Grant, Alan Rickman, Emma Thompson and Kate Winslet. It' s another Jane Austin based on movie.

[@PinkPopcast]

Thanks 😊

[@elleee-lv3lw]

And much better production and historical accucary

[@DuchessofSassytown]

Fun fact, Joe Wright also directed an adaptation of Anna Karenina where Keira Knightley and Matthew MacFadyen play brother and sister

[@PinkPopcast]

Ooh nice, I didn’t realize it was the same director. Nice!

[@AmelieKaren7_13]

They got the Ansel elgort and Shailene Woodley treatment 😭😭😭

[@shelbylynn613]

@29:50 these are real places in England; exteriors of Pemberley are Chatsworth House, which was supposedly Austen’s inspiration for Pemberley, most of the interior is Wilton House (that *huge* portrait behind Georgina’s pianoforte is the give away on this one)

[@PinkPopcast]

that's so wild. what gorgeous locations

[@celine8878]

I’ve spent so many beautiful days at Chatsworth oh my goodness and it never stops feeling magical! One today you will have to come visit and I’ll give you a tour! His head piece/ sculpture is also there!

[@user-ed7et3pb4o]

Chatsworth is actually in Derbyshire as well, it’s beautiful!

[@18Hongo]

The National Trust and English Heritage must have been doing the Leonardo DiCaprio "pointing at the tv" meme when those were on screen 😂

[@lynnefreeman2221]

I believe Wilton was also used in 2020 Emma for Donwell Abbey interior

[@JoaoBurgess]

If I'm not mistaken, the "enemies to lovers" trope was invented by Jane Austin in this novel!

[@PinkPopcast]

That makes sense 😂

[@la_beatrice]

Well, Much Ado About Nothing predates this by almost two hundred years, and I'm not sure that's the start of the trope either.

[@liteflightify]

A bit of some messy behind the scenes info: Rosamond Pike and the actor who played Mr Bingley (Simon Woods) had dated for a couple years before being cast in this movie. They had barely been broken up a year before they were cast as lovers in this movie. So, imagine the awkwardness. Furthermore, Simon (Mr. Bingley) had left Rosamond for a man. A few years later he married a different man.

[@PinkPopcast]

😬 working with an ex would be so awkward, at least he’s living his truth now, hopefully he was responsible in breaking the news to her

[@I_AM_HYDRAA]

That is messy and cute at the same time

[@JadedKate]

He does look exactly like a gay man I know ! (He's blonde but the rest of his face kind of bears a strong enough resemblance)

[@elleee-lv3lw]

I believe they were on good terms and remained friends, no?

[@skiesc1606]

Darcy’s house in the film is Chatsworth House in the UK. the interior is exactly the same. The statue room is real (except Darcy’s bust 😂) though you can buy smaller versions in the souvenir shop

[@PinkPopcast]

Oh I definitely wanna small Darcy Bust

[@MSinger4472]

@@PinkPopcast Benji or Rizzo?

[@henninggirl261]

I’m a Mrs. Bennett apologist. With Mr. Bennett not, at all, concerned with what’s to become of his wife and daughters after he dies, no wonder she’s wound so tight. Lydia is in a real bind but it’s the best possible outcome of running off with Wickham. Plus she can always go to Lizzie or Jane if it gets really bad.

[@PinkPopcast]

No I’m definitely on Mrs. Bennett’s side, the world was (and still is) pretty cruel to women

[@djenae2852]

This is fine. I'm chill, I'm cool. Not like it's one of my favourite movies ever or anything. I'm feeling very calm and casual about this reaction.

[@PinkPopcast]

Uh huh suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure ;)

[@PinkPopcast]

Hahah hope you enjoy the video

[@caycecarson]

Literally lmao

[@jessicaluk74]

I feel you

[@lafandenuel5605]

shame that ancient greek literatute is no longer taught in schools

[@rebecky5ever]

Welcome to our club Rizzo, we're happy you're here🤗

[@PinkPopcast]

Happy to be had!!!

[@kunglaoshat1250]

“That’s lame Mr. Darcy” tumblr edit is going to live in my head rent free 😂

[@PinkPopcast]

😂😂

[@itsmith14]

My grandma used to watch this movie, over and over, She had dementia so she would forget that she had already seen it 😂😂 RIP Gram, I miss you so much ❤❤❤

[@PinkPopcast]

RIP Gram! She probably would have made an amazing Reactor!

[@thecavalieryouth]

Howwwwww have you not seen P&P?! Ugh, I'm actually kinda jealous bc I'd love to watch this for the first time again 😩

[@PinkPopcast]

😂😂 I’m not sure how that happened actually

[@silvercoronet]

The Miss Bennet thing is clearer and more obvious in the book. And you may be able to see it a bit in Bridgerton a bit, I did notice it once this season. The eldest unmarried sister is always Miss LastName and the sisters following are Miss FirstName or Miss FullName

[@71lizgoeshardt]

Yes, in Bridgerton they're very clear with Daphne being "Miss Bridgerton" but her sisters are Miss Eloise and Miss Francesca etc

[@silvercoronet]

@@71lizgoeshardt They’re rarely addressed together so it was harder for me to notice it with the Bridgertons, but I definitely saw it more with it being Francesca’s first season out. It was especially noticeable with the Sheffields/Sharmas, though

[@PinkPopcast]

This is the first we’re learning of it!

[@smoothlikebutter.830]

Gonna add also: if you watched BBC's Pride and Prejudice (1995), Mr. Darcy often calls Lizzy 'Miss Bennet', instead of 'Miss Elizabeth', when Jane is not around. Basically, the rule is if the eldest unmarried daughter/sister is not around, the next eldest younger daughter/sister (or even the younger daughter is alone) is addressed as 'Miss Lastname'. You'll see this kind of situation when (kinda spoiler: Bridgerton season 3), when everytime John Sterling and Francesca Bridgerton meet each other (without Eloise around), John would address Francesca 'Miss Bridgerton', instead of Miss Francesca.

[@allyfleming4556]

Darcy's lust for Elizabeth is the equivalent of Anthony in season 2 of Bridgerton

[@PinkPopcast]

Hahaha it really is

[@usdutchkitty]

Where do you think Anthony was based from for Bridgerton? There’s even a nod to the 1996 mini TV series with ‘wet shirt Mr Darcy’ with Anthony with the pond.

[@rockygroves4154]

My fave mr. Collins moment is "what excellent boiled potatoes" he was so real for that

[@Charlie_Wolfe]

“He’s a human! You’re a mermaid!” That one got me 🤣🤣🤣

[@PinkPopcast]

😂😂

[@amandaljohnson]

Indeed I share your obsession, Rizzo Keira Knightley is one of my absolute favorite actresses and this is definitely my favorite film of hers

[@PinkPopcast]

Four perfect movies in the span of four years!!!

[@amandaljohnson]

​@@PinkPopcast and her range is insane ugghh i love her

[@noodle9993]

When me and my three best friends finished school we rented a cottage in Derbyshire and did a little pride and prejudice trip. We had a sunny day out at chatsworth house (pemberley). It’s was gorgeous! Also there is steps you can see behind mr darcy’s head in the scene where he and Elizabeth are talking awkwardly after she’s run out, that is actually a fountain that water runs down. My friend Jess fell in it and it was on of the most hilarious things I’ve ever seen. Also fun history fact; Chatsworth house is actually the ancestral seat of the duke and duchess of Devonshire (they still own it). The most famous duchess of Devonshire was Georgiana cavendish who Keira knightly played in ‘the duchess’.

[@SissouLoveVideo]

"What's it like swimming in a pool that shallow?" "Well I'm not swimming I'm dancing around and splashing in the puddle" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@PinkPopcast]

✨💅✨

[@circlenowsquared]

The "I am disinclined to acquiesce to his request" SENT ME I'm laughing so hard!

[@thisbadomens]

Pirates and pnp crossover fr😂

[@kaymanuel17]

16:17 i love how you mentioned choreography in the directing and cinematography, this director is great at it! Also Anna Karenina with our two lead actors is great

[@PinkPopcast]

👏👏👏

[@filmfangirls9163]

I love this movie!! It's one of my favorite Austen adaptations. My first is the BBC Emma with Jonny Lee Miller as Mr. Knightley. It's a long mini series but so worth it!!

[@PinkPopcast]

Ooh we wanna watch Emma too, but probably the Gwenethn Paltrow one

[@filmfangirls9163]

@@PinkPopcast that's a good one too!! Very funny.

[@Jane-dp2yz]

It's my favourite too! But no one ever mentions it! He reeeeaally nailed Mr Knightley! And her Emma gave so much of the spirit of the book I feel like! Uhg it really deserves more love

[@reysterlightwood4127]

Are we all here coz Netflix has the bright idea to split Bridgerton s3 in two parts? Coz i am. Im watching every bit of historical romance i could get my hands on. WATCH EMMA NEXT!

[@PinkPopcast]

😂😂 we do need to watch Emma soon

[@johnnehrich9601]

It is so amazing to think that the next generation, the early Victorians, would introduce the waltz. And this was so shocking, so scandalous because the man and woman put their hands around each other.

[@PinkPopcast]

THE SCANDAL!!!!

[@PinkPopcast]

😅😅

[@johnnehrich9601]

Personally I find it so fascinating to see how customs change over time, although each generation thinks that their version is the only "natural" one. You might want to watch and react to Gone With The Wind, also with the back and forth between courting couples - and also in your reaction, comment on the racist elements of it - because it very much is.

[@Velociraptour]

me watching Bridgerton: "closed hold ballroom dancing?" * clutches pearls*

[@keilatenshi5910]

You need to find the documentary with Len Goodman and Lucy Worsley about the evolution of dance in the UK. It's called Dancing Cheek to Cheek: An Intimate History of Dance.

[@CarysRawlings]

You're the first reactors I've watched that realised Mr Darcy was attempting to practice his conversational skills when he visited the house!

[@PinkPopcast]

❤️❤️

[@thepinkelephant2520]

Exactly! I was so impressed with their attention to detail!!

[@imaabd640]

18:32 the synchronized head tilt🤣🤣

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Quote of the Day: “When I say I suck, I SUUUUUUCK!”

[@bexc348]

If you want a supernatural version Benjy, there's Pride and Prejudice and Zombies. Loved this reaction, was so lovely being able to see you react for the first time to this iconic couple!

[@PinkPopcast]

Haha I might have to see the zombies!

[@PokhrajRoy.]

23:52 The running joke is that Mr. Darcy can be misinterpreted as a serial killer 😂

[@CherryCarry]

"There's a possibility" killed me every time LMAOOOO 29:54 "Benji" was freaking hilarious, the disappointment in Rizzo's voice 😭 31:45 we complimented Kira's smile at the same time. Her little cheeks and the way she shows her teeth is just so precious 🥺

[@PinkPopcast]

😊😊😊

[@julieive]

When Benji would sing “there’s a possibility” I literally was like “YES THATS WHAT I SINGED TOO” 😂

[@PinkPopcast]

😂😂

[@tateperson]

32:45 loool Rizzo going through all of the emotions 😆😆 up thinking she was dead, down after realizing that she's ran away and back up after knowing it's with Wickham

[@SushilaShresth-hs8vj]

"Father ............ what the fuck" Now why did that sound like a line from fleabag 😆

[@funsalmon]

this is just about my favorite of all time and I'm so excited

[@PinkPopcast]

Both Benji and I wanted to immediately rewatch it after finishing the reaction!

[@FSDD88]

The single shot where they follow Elizabeth and Darcy is SO GOOD! The camera work is amazing

[@sarcasmisnotdead]

While everyone was talking about Pride and Prejudice, I was living for Bride and Prejudice! It was a Bollywood take on the story with some amazing songs and dance numbers. Definitely a good adaptation of the story to check out for entertainment.

[@PinkPopcast]

Sounds great!

[@morbidencounters]

Oooo I love that one!! So good!

[@Decodethefallenmoon]

@@PinkPopcastseconded Bride & Prejudice!!! It’s SO wholesome honestly and very fun especially with how in-depth and respectful it is to the culture clashes

[@Howdidyouknow04]

I love this movie. I became hyperfixated on it a month or two ago after seeing it replay in the theaters. As a autistic person I think Mr.Darcy is SO autistic coded.

[@PinkPopcast]

That is SO true. Also jealous you got to see this again in theaters. What part of the world are you?

[@PinkPopcast]

Totally! Such a good movie!

[@celestinebuendia]

I’m glad someone else beat me to pointing out how autistic-coded Mr Darcy is.

[@Howdidyouknow04]

@@PinkPopcast America. My local theater plays famous older popular movies one night only like every weekend.

[@kitsalmonovitch6978]

Agreed 🥰❤️

[@tateperson]

I see we're on our book classics era 👀

[@PinkPopcast]

YES WE ARE!

[@PinkPopcast]

Yepp🙌🙌

[@tateperson]

41:41 ahhh you watched this version!

[@gsandau]

The actor who played Mr. Bingley had blonde hair and they dyed it red. Apparently, it never grew blonde again.

[@PinkPopcast]

😭😭😭

[@voyance4elle]

Just discovered you and already love you guys. The way that one sister who looks out the window, super enunciated and excited, says "Mister Bingley" with a capital B has been living in my head rent-free since forever 😂

[@PinkPopcast]

😂😂

[@nuimaleko7]

Mrs Bennet is played by the great Brenda Blethyn, star of one my favorite long running police detective shows, Vera.

[@PinkPopcast]

Oh mrs Bennets a badass

[@PinkPopcast]

She's fantastic!

[@BCthing]

I REALLY want you guys to watch the BBC miniseries of this with Colin Firth - it's absolutely brilliant and goes into much more detail with all the hijinks. Love them both mind you, just feel like you should make a series of the original miniseries!

[@PinkPopcast]

Hijinks!?!? 😮

[@BCthing]

@@PinkPopcast SO MANY

[@tracy4290]

@@PinkPopcast (plus it adds "Mr Darcy (Colin Firth) in a wet undershirt"... 😉)

[@jzhou3704]

Came into the comments to recommend this, esp because the BBC mini series also has (spoiler) the weddings you’re looking for!

[@defmads741]

omg i’m so happy to be so early i feel like we’re all a little gang ! thanks for posting, i really needed it 💕

[@PinkPopcast]

Gang for Life!

[@QuestionableLifeChoices]

when i first saw this movie, i didnt care for it. when i watched it again, i caught details that made me, like it more and from there, every time i watched it, i noticed more and more until i LOVED it. this movie is gorgeous in every aspect: the music, cinematography, writing, pacing, acting--all of it fucking excellent. even matthew macfayden (mr. darcy) somehow became more attractive and appealing throughout the movie just from his performance

[@PinkPopcast]

Almost identical except I ✨did like it✨ as a kid, I just didn’t comprehend ✨how good it was✨

[@QuestionableLifeChoices]

@@PinkPopcast so 🤌

[@eybisborjasvargas6889]

RIP 🙏 Donald Sutherland. Heaven has gain an angel.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

29:38 The actor playing Mrs. Gardiner was in ‘Downton Abbey’ as Isobel Crawley. “These great men are never at home.”, they said.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

42:50 TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, there’s a sequel but not written by Jane Austen. It’s by P.D. James and it’s ’Death Comes to Pemberley’. There’s a movie adaptation of it.

[@PinkPopcast]

😱😱😱

[@dambookworm13]

OMG no the ending didn't have the added scene at the end!😭 not y'alls fault but darn it it's so good!

[@PinkPopcast]

WE ARE SO MAD!!! We'd been using a VPN to watch Mary & George and then watched the UK Netflix version of Pride & Prejudice 😖

[@LillerThatIsMe]

It blew my mind when I found out that the final scene wasn’t universal! How is there a cut without that?!?

[@jamesmccarthy2655]

The ‘American’ end scene is TERRIBLE imo; so clunky, and so obviously a last minute addition with a completely different tone and style to the rest of the film. I guess at least there are the two versions so everyone can go with whichever they prefer!

[@AnnekeOosterink]

@@LillerThatIsMe The kiss/married ending is the US ending only. It was added for the US market.

[@MonAhgasInsomniAroELF]

@@jamesmccarthy2655 i highly disagree. the cuttoff is much worse, and writing-wise, it's like an unfinished sentence. they left the story unfinished in the UK version. personally i think a wedding scene would have been better, either for bingley and jane, or darcy and elizabeth, or a double wedding. but the american ending is better than the british ending at least, because it gives the story a proper ending.

[@jessiej5203]

As someone who grew up watching this EVERY SUNDAY and can quote the entire movie as well as having read the book A MILLION TIMES. I would love to sit in between y’all and explain everything. But this was extremely entertaining! Y’all are hilarious!!!

[@gyllenhaalic21]

Biting your thumb at Mr. Wickham is crazyyyy do it again! And keep reacting to historical romances 😂😂

[@PinkPopcast]

Can do! 🫡

[@user-sm6tm5jg9u]

Ahhh so excited to see you react. This is a CLASSIC

[@PinkPopcast]

YES IT IS!

[@clairesnelson9961]

This is up there as one of my absolute favorites movies. The music, scenery, lighting, acting, costumes, all of it, is pure perfection!!! I have seen this movie so many times and will never ever not choose to watch it! Darcy's second preposal where he states his imfamous lign my stomach gets butterflies every single time😍😍 Loved hearing your opnions on this one. Great job guys!

[@kimiko11150616]

This is the first time I’ve seen a commentary for this movie that highlights the best parts of their relationship/conflicts. For the longest time I thought this movie was boring and that’s why I haven’t watched it. Now I’m invested and see why everyone loves Mr. Darcy.

[@PinkPopcast]

🥰🥰

[@MsSera21]

Mr Darcy's home is Chatsworth House! You can visit it. the Dukes of Devonshire still live there lol