FIRST TIME WATCHING: V for Vendetta!!! (lots of tears...)

[@Finarsin]

It was written by Alan Moore as a graphic novel, The Wachowskis adapted it.

[@GiorgiNemsitsveridze]

It's a badass graphic novel

[@fxzero666]

@@GiorgiNemsitsveridze Yes it is! I think The Wachowski's did a terrific job adapting it. They substituted an LSD trip for action but the overall theme and message is amazingly the same, just updated for modern times.

[@turtlemop8712]

And Alan Moore famously despises it and all of the other movie adaptations of his work

[@dzhellek]

Rather poorly. When it comes to the GN this movie is a case of big hat but no cattle.

[@orangewarm1]

Plus it's a good film, I dont know why he dissasociated from it.

[@maxlawton2680]

The domino scene from V for Vendetta, involved 22,000 dominoes, took 4 professional domino assemblers 200 hours to set up

[@GrumpyOldGuyPlaysGames]

And according to the Wachowskis, they only had to do it once. Perfect take the first time.

[@harmbooij8241]

The world record stands for close to 4,5 milion. :)

[@JohnWinkelman]

Professional Domino Assembler would be a great line item on a resume.

[@davecantwell7977]

I'd love to know the process by which one becomes a 'professional domino assembler' hahaha

[@pietergreveling]

@@harmbooij8241 😁🇳🇱👍✌

[@Acorn_Anomaly]

"You can tell she feels the worst about it." And that's exactly why she gets a painless, merciful death. She came to show genuine remorse and regret for the terrible actions she committed.

[@JedHead77]

“People shouldn’t be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people.”

[@swordmonkey6635]

Thomas Jefferson?

[@bujin1977]

If only that was still the case today.

[@Abbadonhades]

I think governments in many countries are afraid of their people, and in return do what they can to supress the population, in order to maintain control over them. The supression of votes, of political opposition, of free speech, of human rights, of the right to protest and so on and so forth. This takes place today in a lot of different countries. Whether the leaders of the nations are elected populists or unelected dictators, the need for power causes them to distort the truth to a point where we can no longer recognize it.

[@1nelsondj]

Another great line is, "A revolution without dancing is not a revolution worth having."

[@mattyrose8937]

@@swordmonkey6635 Tocqueville? Maybe... Definitely one of the revolutionary guys.

[@atinybard6594]

People walking into this movie without knowing anything about it, are genuinely the best reactions.

[@MrMpa31]

That is true about all movies.

[@CrayCruz]

@@MrMpa31 Especially well written movies.

[@Dousch]

Happened to me with this film, and I was hooked every second of the ride. Makes you take that extra step to stay away from the temptation of trailers.

[@ditoo]

Not hers

[@OneOfThe3Muskateers]

That was me on my first watch, it’s still to this day one of my favourite movies ever!

[@sonar357]

I think this was Weavings best work as an actor. You never see his face it’s all body language, tone and ‘presence’. And he nails it. You just get a feel for ‘who’ V is by his actions and not the ‘what’ he is (“a man in a mask”).

[@cameronb851]

Even more praiseworthy when you find out that Hugo Weaving stepped into the role just two weeks before principle shooting began, when the original Actor bowed out after struggling to figure out how to play the part when his face remained covered for the entire film. I have mad respect for Weaving stepping into such a daunting set of circumstances and then pulling it off as yet another career defining role. The same with Keith Urban playing Judge Dredd. Both he and Weaving have such expressive and distinct faces, so to swallow that personal ego and play a role that effectively hides a fundamental tool of their trade is a testament to their acting skills and dedication to their craft. You only have to watch Urban as Butcher in The Boys to see how effectively he uses facial expression in his roles.

[@parker469a]

@@cameronb851 I feel like his Agent Smith character was kinda a prototype for this role considering he was wearing sunglasses nearly the entire trilogy. Sunglasses don't cover as much as the Guy Fawkes's Masks but it does cover his eyes and forces more body language to be used versus facial expressions.

[@Metzwerg74]

try weavings support role as alcoholic, PTSD and surviors guilt ridden father in "Hacksaw RIdge" that is his masterpiece... in acting....

[@HarrisMiller-qw6xh]

I think that this is DC's best work compared to what they have out there now

[@leroylowe5921]

I think you mean Karl Urban. Then again you were talking about a guy with an expressive face so maybe not.

[@RogiTbf]

" Why won't You die? "Beneth this mask, there is an idea, Mr. Creedy" "And Ideas are bulletproof" Such a great line.

[@danieldickson8591]

@@andrewmonsalve5051 A bulletproof vest would not save him from the concussion damage of that many bullets. Anyone of lesser will would have been incapacitated, never mind being able to kill a dozen men in a few seconds.

[@stephensporman8206]

@@danieldickson8591 well yeah but he wasn't an ordinary man. He was clearly superhuman to an extent due to the experiments they performed on him

[@rootfish2671]

​@@danieldickson8591V was speaking in metaphor and what he represents, which is anarchy vs fascism and Norsefire is going to be toppled by a revolution

[@HFRA69]

Fun fact: John Hurt, the Chancellor, was Winston, the protagonist of the movie "1984".

[@davidpietarila699]

I actually recently read 1984. That was a DEPRESSING book!

[@unlimited971]

@@davidpietarila699 well considering current.

[@noahm904]

@@davidpietarila699 2 + 2= 5

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

yup. He basically plays the Big Brother.

[@k.delpino1124]

The Elephant Man as well. 40 years ago.

[@raphster87]

"I'm not questioning your powers of observation, I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man, who he is."

[@OriginalPuro]

If more people would talk like that, the world would be a better place.

[@LethalByChoice]

@@OriginalPuro What exactly do you mean?

[@WOLFxLORD]

@@LethalByChoice context. You wouldn't have as many morons jumping to wrong conclusions, because they wouldn't have the room to misunderstand what the other person was actually saying.

[@levi9486]

@@WOLFxLORD I've been trying to expand my vocabulary lately for this reason. We no longer use many words in English, but when used properly, you can really communicate in a way that leaves little room for misinterpretation.

[@levi9486]

@@markvarley2962 haha real good

[@dubiumguy]

"This is so Big Brother..." Said as John Hurt, who played Winston Smith in the movie adaptation of 1984, is on a giant screen.

[@MrZomBie775]

I love how they cast him as the Chancellor. Great nod to 1984.

[@thestephenwales]

@BattleAngelFan eh no not ironic at all, a specific nod to 1984

[@MrZomBie775]

@cyberpunk jutsu Yeah, I definitely don't agree 100% with Moore on alot of issues, but I think his writing is at its best when he's making social commentary and critiquing the governmental and social systems that control our society. Its similar to Watchmen being a critique of both capitalist and communist imperialism during the Cold War. Alan Moore is perhaps the truest successor to Orwell of the moder era IMO.

[@streaky81]

Not ironic, the whole movie is neck-deep in the 1984 universe, aka 2020, guarantee it was intentional.

[@DeathbySkullfxxx]

@@streaky81 gtfo... if and when we get to 1984 levels youll be begging for 2020. Not that 2020 has been great but talk about your overreactions

[@Mr.Batsu12]

The "V For Vendetta" story was written by Alan Moore, it was originally a comic book. Most of the credit you give to the Wachowskis actually belongs to him. Granted they did an excellent adaptation of the story and wonderful film work.

[@bobbybaklava9605]

Alan Moore, although a great writer/storyteller, hated all of his work and anything to do with his work. He also loathed the US to the fullest extent which often showed in his work lol

[@bobbybaklava9605]

@@harrysarai3947 no where does it state that you have to make your movie verbatim to the written material. It's the director interpretation of the movie and it did fine. If you want to read the graphic novel then go read the graphic novel. Like I said, nothing would satisfy Alan Moore anyways so who cares what he thinks.

[@harrysarai3947]

@@bobbybaklava9605 your last line^, i feel the same way about you.

[@bobbybaklava9605]

@@harrysarai3947 i didn't ask you to care about what I think. I'm telling you what it is. Alan Moore isn't happy with his own work. Fact. ...now if you think he's going to love anyone's interpretation of his work (THAT HE HATES) ... then you're setting yourself up to be disappointed

[@bobbybaklava9605]

@@harrysarai3947 shouldn't have replied then if you didn't care. Childish response from someone unwilling and obviously uneducated on the subject Kick rocks dork

[@nicktroisi6347]

The scene where Evie stands in the rain is one of the greatest moments in cinematic history. The parallel yet drastic difference between her and V’s origin is incredible. One was born in fire and rage the other born out in water and hope Also V wasn’t doing it just for himself, he was doing it for her, for Valerie. Her hopes and dreams destroyed an entire government. Without love, life is meaningless

[@alexzapf6422]

That scene hits so hard every time I watch it. One day a revolution will happen. The people will revolt against the government.

[@coryway6951]

To be fair, Alan Moore should get most of the credit.

[@coryway6951]

@Ruaidhrí LS Ryan Yes, he lost the rights to V for Vendetta and Watchmen due to a bad deal he signed so they were not even obligated to put his credit in even if he wanted it. Even work he owns, kinda, like League of Extrodanry Gentlemen he asked for his credit to be removed, and rightly so. The whole V for Vendetta/Watchmen and DC debacle is covered very well in the 2000AD documentary. I only stated that it was fair that the writing credit should go to him and not to the Warchoski's for those who do not know who Alan Moore is.

[@tjl9458]

@@coryway6951 Definitely. All the clever bits of dialogue she was complimenting came from the original graphic novel. The Wachowski's definitely changed a lot and they're responsible for things like the action scenes Natalie likes. But, Moore should be given at least a lot of credit for the overall visual style and dialogue.

[@Ex0dus111]

The Wachowski's changed "I felt like an angel" to "God is in the Rain". And I cannot forgive them for that. Incredibly that one, nonsensical, stupid change ruined the entire movie for me.

[@Heegaherger]

@@Ex0dus111 I have had that happen to me as well. One tiny little detail and it turns the whole piece off.

[@clok1966]

@Ruaidhrí LS Ryan I agree somewhat, this movie is quite good, one of my favorites ( as is Watchmen). No 2-hour movie could do either of the comics justice, but I honestly don't think many could do a better job than was done. I have read most of Moores work and think it's some of the best I have read and watched and listened to most of his interviews. I understand principals but I have to think he is just that, a grumpy old man. When you think of the stories he could tell if he was not so unhappy with his bad choices and the fact that money men screwed him, that is what they do. While I liked LOEG, there is no doubt that the movie did no justice to the source, it was just simple popcorn fun, non of the meat Moore put into it. As I age I just can't understand people who hate all the time. now I am sure he doesn't hate all the time, he is bitter for sure on some stuff, you need to let it go or you will just "grump" till you die.

[@Tomhyde098]

This is one of my favorite movies! “Artists use lies to tell the truth, while politicians use them to cover the truth up”

[@CgGoil]

Love that quote!!

[@TearYouApart360]

When I was younger I memorized V's entire alliteration. Also I loved that they used John Hurt to portray the tyrannical High Chancellor Sutler considering his character in 1984 was a victim of such tyranny.

[@squaddie67]

Written by Alan Moore (Watchmen, Swamp Thing, Batman: The Killing Joke, The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen) and adapted by The Wachowskis.

[@WadeWilsonLastSardaukar]

Very poorly adapted(((

[@jimballard1186]

@@WadeWilsonLastSardaukar I like Moore's writing (at least when he's not being weird about women), but I never fully understood his insistence on faithfulness to source material. He's a comic writer; he of all people should know these artforms are collaborative, and will be shaped by the interpretations and aptitudes of the entire team. I'm sure there's a sincere anti-capitalist conviction behind part of it, but the rest...

[@tygon13]

@@jimballard1186 The problem is when collaborative projects bastardizes the intended story and meaning, in order to produce and/or sell it within the new medium.

[@Posit_Zero_Blue]

@@WadeWilsonLastSardaukar I liked the movie ok for what it was ...but I'd the graphic novel is obviously better and anyone who's seen the movie should give it a read. The less we talk about the watchmen film the better... *but* it did bring in a lot of readers to the comics. Silver linings I suppose.

[@woodgatejack]

​@@jimballard1186 I have a bit of an issue with Moore's protectiveness of his characters. He often vented spleen at DC for what they did to Watchmen, but was more than happy to use Superman despite Seigle and Shuster famously wanting control of their creation back. He even left Barbara Gordon paralysed after being implicitly raped by The Joker (yeah, perhaps he didn't _actually_ rape her, but the imagery was there) Even Watchmen aren't really _his._ DC acquired the rights to several Charlton Comics (a rival comic publisher) characters, More wanted to use some of these for a story he was planning, but DC didn't like the idea of having their new acquisitions turn evil, mad or be killed off and so DC put the Charlton characters in the main DCU via _Crisis on Infinitive Earths_ and Moore gave Peacekeeper, The Question, Blue Beetle, Thunderbolt and Captain Atom a new coat of paint as The Comedian, Rorschach, Nite Owl, Ozymandias and Dr Manhattan.

[@joshuaschulz3897]

John Hurt, was the hero in the film version of 1984, and in this he plays the embodiment of "big brother"

[@przemysawjozwiak144]

It was written by Alan Moore as a graphic novel in 1982, The Wachowskis adapted it. John Hurt plays in the Orwell book adaptation

[@mysticsaxophone4181]

Sir John Hurt was a fucking legend. Hails

[@przemysawjozwiak144]

@@mysticsaxophone4181 Still is becouse legends never dies and ideas are bulletproof ;)

[@mysticsaxophone4181]

@@przemysawjozwiak144 Amen

[@GFiero87]

1984 needs to be on her watch list.

[@stranger3874]

Evey: "V, I don't want you to die." *V: "This is most beautiful thing you could've ever given me."*

[@greyjackal]

"He played an elf in LOTR, and an AI Robot in the Matrix".... And a fabulous drag queen, a demoralised veteran, the Red Skull, Megatron....and so, so many more. The man's a machine, he's always working and always delivers.

[@Deluiell]

Wait, he was Megatron?? 😱

[@brendanmurphy1074]

Don't forget Rex the sheepdog in Babe!

[@jordinagel1184]

@@Deluiell shhh... I’m sure that’s not the role he wants to be touting, given what movies it was in. Better to focus on Elrond, Smith, and V.

[@stephenharvey4138]

The first time I saw him was as Douglas Jardine in the two part series Bodyline in the early 80s on ABC TV

[@greyjackal]

@@stephenharvey4138 That was the cricket thing, aye?

[@pillboxmovies]

Fun fact: Natalie Portman said she was excited for that head shaving scene, because she had wanted to try it out before.

[@Dasharr]

I wonder if a scene like that is daunting to film because there's no chance for a second take if it's not perfect.

[@chunkyMunky329]

@@Dasharr I was thinking the same thing!

[@Pchlster]

@@Dasharr Nah, just film the whole thing, do a few pick-ups? You'll still have like 5 minutes to get a good usable 10 seconds.

[@simonbeaird7436]

'Remember, remember the 5th of November, gunpowder, treason and plot. I see no reason why gunpowder treason should ever be forgot'. Great, great movie! Natalie Portman is awesome in this.

[@canemcave]

no, he is, with a mask and without any expression he can communicate a full range of emotions, the guy is brilliant, she is modest and cute, that's all

[@sportschool3537]

@@canemcave they're both incredible in the movie dude... the difference is that the fact Hugo Weaving didn't win every single award in the world that year for this role is a travesty and shows that the Oscars, Golden Globes and all other awards out there aren't worth jack shit... the people that vote clearly have no sense of what makes a role and an actor good or not... Hugo Weaving as V is probably the most impressive piece of acting I've ever seen in movie in my life... and I've watched a shitload of movies...

[@canemcave]

​@@sportschool3537 there are a few movies in which I found her really good like in Leon the professional and Black Swan, but she is not great in all her roles. In V for Vendetta she did not strike me as amazing

[@sportschool3537]

@@canemcave No, I disagree... she was wonderful... very emotional and fragile but also strong and a free spirit... she balanced the two sides very nicely and showed both the idealist in her and the human side of her character that was scared about the consequences...

[@canemcave]

@@sportschool3537 well, we agree to disagree then For me she deserved an oscar as Matilda and she got one as Nina when she was truly exceptional. But I agree he did deserve an Oscar in V for Vendetta

[@warre1]

You should watch Natalie Portman's first film, Leon The Professional. It's great movie. I think still her best.

[@marekbarycz4397]

Agree. So much agree. But Portman was not that great in this movie. Jean Reno and Gary Oldman... Those are two titans that carry this movie.

[@AnonEyeMouse]

That is a great call. It is an amzing film with great acting from all involved. Nat will bawl her eyes out. :)

[@parker469a]

@@marekbarycz4397 For a thirteen year old she was actually pretty good. I'm trying to think of other child actors that are as good but the Goonies is the only thing that comes to mind.

[@rebeccawesterman5883]

@@marekbarycz4397 I don't know what movie you watched.....

[@CgGoil]

I dont agree that its her best movie, but i agree that its a movie that should be watched! Fantastic movie, and one i have seen many times.

[@HoracioAmiritoDiaz]

"I killed you ten minutes ago while you slept." I remember when I first saw this in the theaters everyone there lost it when he said that.

[@lasciethiesing2219]

My husband and I picked this movie at the theater very randomly. It was one of the best spur of the moment decisions I've ever made. This is definitely one of my top favorite movies.

[@KS-xk2so]

"I have not come for what you hoped to do.... I have come for what you did." In the end, good intentions don't mean much honestly.

[@evanflynn4680]

"The road to hell is paved with them" We're all heroes in our own story. The trick is to not be the villain in the stories of the innocent.

[@jamelbarker8058]

@@evanflynn4680 good on you mate. No villainy here.

[@efreshwater5]

No. They mean much more than you are saying. Good intentions or the "greater good" have been the cause of ever major genocide and war in history. They mean much, much more... just negatively.

[@system3008]

@@efreshwater5 the road to hell is paved with good intentions?

[@j.j.h.atemycereal]

Such a good movie. I’d forgotten about the note scene; “I don’t know you... but I love you” just KILLS me every time. Great choice, Nat.

[@evanflynn4680]

Right in the feels

[@fartsofdoom6491]

Oh, you should read the comic. The scene in the film brought a tear to my eye, but the same section in the comic was an incredibly emotional experience, even though I'd seen the movie first.

[@jmurphy2169]

"It looks like a horror movie" from a certain perspective it is.

[@Obenfiquista81]

Indeed.

[@miltongarza9035]

"Words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth."

[@Xagzan]

I wish people remembered this movie for more than just the face mask, but for the spirit of what it was actually showing.

[@CrayCruz]

So apropos to today's headlines and what's happening in the country.

[@fartsofdoom6491]

I wish people would get into the comic instead. That has a REAL message and spirit. Trust me, if you read it, you'll probably see the film as a pile of hot garbage afterwards.

[@andrewpania2702]

@@fartsofdoom6491 Untrue, I have watched the film and read the graphic novel, I love both of them very much. Although the story from the comics is more complex, I still enjoy the film adaptation very much and is one of my favorite films.

[@fartsofdoom6491]

@@andrewpania2702 I'm happy for you if you can enjoy both :) Most people I know who've read the comic utterly despise the film. And I think it's an oversimplification to say the comic's more complex. While that is obviously the case, it's more than that. They didn't just dumb the story down for the movie adaptation, they actively changed its message. I'm all for creative freedom in adaptations, but when it's done in such a way that completely removes the very heart of the original to replace it with a fundamentally different (and dumber) agenda, I find that nothing short of disgustingly disrespectful to the original artist(s). That is on top of them changing the villains (and, to a lesser degree, the heroes) from the complex human beings they are in the comic into the 2-dimensional caricatures of the film. Over all, I think it's fair to say that the comic is an adult work while the film is everything but, at least in comparison. That is not to shame you for liking it or to convince you to hate it. Far from it. Like I said, I'm happy for you if you can enjoy it. I'm just pointing out that I and a lot of other people can't and indicating a few of the reasons why. When I say that people are likely to hate the film once they've read the comic, I'm not simply trash talking the film, but speaking from personal experience. It happened to me and most others I know who've read it. I used to count the film as one of my favourites myself, but have never once felt the slightest desire to revisit it after reading the comic, which immediately became one of my very favourite books. I didn't just think it was cool like I did with the film, it actually changed my life like probably no other book ever has. Basically, I don't want people to hate the film with me, but to love the comic with me, and I find it sad how few of those who love the film actually read it, especially considering it's really not a lot of effort to read a comic compared to a traditional novel. (I once re-read V for Vendetta on a six hour train ride and had two hours to spare after finishing it.) For both its beauty and its political message, I think it should be enjoyed by everyone.

[@andrewpania2702]

@@fartsofdoom6491 While I disagree with your notes because I still found the characters especially the main ones to be complex, And I still think the story was amazing, and I don't think you and others would hate this film if not for your love of the comic. Because it's a brilliant film that does still have a lot of the source material in it, it's more simple, but the comics are beyond amazing which is why the standard is so high.

[@alexanderhay7358]

Nat, you really do get into the 'smart' movies like a 'smart' person. I always love how you recognize the collateral damage. "Who is going to clean all that up?!?" Is the best thing I've heard any reactionist say

[@tofton1977]

Natalie: "He seems nice..." Everybody who saw the movie: "Wait for it..."

[@jp3813]

"He's not throwing away his shot."

[@karlwilker579]

@@jp3813 He's gonna rise up, gonna take a (several) shots(s) .

[@GingerPrincessVlogs]

I willing to wait for it! Lol I love how we all went Hamilton!

[@kindle9920]

He ain't never gonna set his descendants free so there will be a revolution in this century V: enter me

[@theprofitdirector3946]

Edmond Dantes is the protagonist of "The Count of Montecristo". One of the greatest revenge story ever told.

[@beardedcasual5120]

Is a personal favorite of mine

[@galpeleg143]

revenge AND returning favors :) Dantes not only pay back he also help those who been good to him

[@pinamawya1967]

@@beardedcasual5120 same here!!!

[@YoonbeenPark]

"The Count of Monty...Crisco." "It's 'Cristo', you dumb shit." "By Alexandre... Dumbass? Dumbass."

[@jenbcamping]

It's absolutely one of my favorite books ever, but it is a little dense at the beginning because there is a bunch of political country and time dependent plot that is pretty confusing if you don't know weird old French History. A lot of the things that contribute to setting Edmund Dantes up to go to jail are very specific and political and it can be a hard read. If you can get past the first bit, it really is a super fun and fantastic book. I was always a little disappointed that he regretted his well-planned and well-executed revenge at the very end, but meh. I pretend it was always great. haha

[@joer3720]

I've watched this movie dozens of times, it's one of my favourites. I play it in class for my students, and this is the first time I've realised Hugo Weaving played V.

[@rolandcooke]

It gets better, Weaving replaced James Purefoy a few weeks into production. He appears in several scenes, but his dialogue was dubbed over.

[@__-wy7el]

His senior year, my son became distant and very easily agitated. After about six months I told my wife I guess he hates me now. She talked to him about it and a week later he came out to us. After 22 years in the Marine Corps, I wasn’t the most personable guy in the world, but that was the best week of my life, because I got my son back. I love him. There is no “no matter what.” Damn you, Nat. Stop crying and making this old man cry. You need more 80’s movies. The one that taught me I could cry as a man was Vision Quest, where the kid’s boss tells him about watching a soccer game. Great scene.

[@kylecorwin6231]

Fingerman: a person who points out someone to be murdered, robbed, etc.

[@big666jeff]

Creedy is the right hand of Sutler & Creedys men are the fingers of that hand. Finger Men.

[@theGhoulman]

@@big666jeff To point out; the term 'fingerman' has been used by crooks, mobsters, and ner-do-wells for decades. It's an actual term. And you do NOT want one to finger YOU. Though I like your interpretation, clever.

[@astalavista7251]

Also a horrific porn star pseudonym...

[@PaulSchober]

In this world, the "Finger" dept of Norsefire is the secret police.

[@theGhoulman]

@@ProgressiveRoxx I didn't know that, never read the novel. Thx!

[@bencracknellCA]

Ive never wept more openly in theaters than the Valarie's letter

[@J4ME5_]

same

[@bryanreynolds8721]

It gets me every single time I watch this movie. It's even worse living in America and feeling like this country is heading in that direction!

[@clit_niblr0375]

@@bryanreynolds8721 - Well, if the Re-TrumpliKKKans get their way by passing legislation to suppress millions of voters and gerrymandering certain voting districts because they know the ONLY way they can win is to cheat. The Dems are definitely going to lose the midterms in 2022. When that happens either Diaper Don will be re-elected to the WH or one his sycophantic enablers in 2024 and then you all can kiss your Democracy goodbye.

[@Landonio]

This is probably my favorite movie of the past 20 years. Gets better with every viewing. It's never been more relevant and important than it is now. Some really scary parallels to the current times.

[@TheFalconerNZ]

If you like V if you have not seen you should watch Swordfish 2001, both about holding governments to account in one way or another

[@andyscottow2250]

Wait, it gets even more relevant.

[@Rey-mu3wf]

And Aeven MORE relevant...

[@tarmaque]

"Pucker up here comes the finger" is a twisted reference to a digital prostate exam.

[@tarmaque]

@@hendrikscheepers4144 I hate you for that pun as much as I hate that I enjoyed it. Much like a prostate exam.

[@tarmaque]

@BattleAngelFan kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3StnJ6Ihd2MnqM

[@robertmartin9029]

I believe that the "Finger Men" is a reference to them being "Fingers" in the hand of the state. That interpretation seems to fit better with the theme of the movie than a joke about proctologists.

[@njones420]

the fact you know Stephen Fry make me happy, he's a national treasure.

[@SixInchChaka]

As an american, I enjoy his reading of Harry Potter more than our guy

[@njones420]

@@SixInchChaka yeah, he does a good job on the audio-books.

[@SixInchChaka]

@@njones420 if you haven’t seen it you should watch his story of “Harry pocketed it”

[@njones420]

@@SixInchChaka literally saw that for the first time a few days ago :)

[@GeekyGarden]

This movie is quickly becoming a documentary.

[@donaldwestfall1091]

Did you recognize the chancellor? That was John Hurt. He played Caine in Alien.

[@JetsetComedian]

@@donaldwestfall1091 Kane

[@Nope2022HugeTheWarningFan]

How is this movie becoming a reality?

[@donaldwestfall1091]

Lance Lust Just look around at the world around us. Unfortunately we are headed for a dystopian future. Its already begun. Just do some research on the group Anonymous and maybe you'll see what I mean.

[@Nope2022HugeTheWarningFan]

@@donaldwestfall1091 I didn't contradict what was said. I merely asked a question to understand more. This doesn't mean I do not already see it. I want to know where this is going to come from...

[@profoundclarity8497]

I'd love to see equilibrium show up on here some day...

[@parker469a]

I don't mind that movie but Gattaca should be done before that movie.

[@snixelpig]

That would be a perfect double feature.

[@ricksterdrummer2170]

Yes!!!

[@Cthulhu013]

Fantastic film. Even if CGI is a bit dated.

[@ds90seph]

@@parker469a I honestly deeply dislike that film but I've only seen it once when I was 12 and I don't know that I understood it well enough to enjoy it and analyze it properly. Still, the concepts horrify me and hence I have a hard time watching it, similarly to Black Mirror.

[@clemencev7162]

Raaaah Natalie! My heart hurt a little when you said « oh my god get to the point » to the most wonderful part ! 😫😉

[@Lily-sw3fw]

Ikr 😭😭

[@F.Dogan.K]

You should watch "Leon The Professional" for sure. You gonna love it mark my words. :)

[@romanprofik]

and Bound from Wachowski's

[@boromirofgondor1856]

Gondor agrees

[@HafdirTasare]

"Ideas are bulletproof" One of the best quotes out there. You can shoot the head an idea is in, but the idea will just jump from head to head and with every person that dies with that idea, it will become stronger and stronger.

[@CrayCruz]

Yes, agreed. That's why that shot at the end of all the people that died removing the Guy Fawkes mask was such a brilliant scene, but constantly overlooked and under-appreciated. This is a great film, one of the Wachowskis best.

[@HafdirTasare]

@@CrayCruz Definatly

[@Sinewmire]

"I cannot defeat this man. I can only kill him."

[@Roxfox]

MEMES THE DNA OF THE SOUL

[@FrankEmmons]

All the lines you said you liked and characters you attributed to the Wachowski's are actually the words of Alan Moore who wrote the 'V for Vendetta' graphic novel. The Wachowski's did a fine job with the movie, but the story, dialogue and characters were adapted by them from the original graphic novel. Having said all that, it was a blast watching your reaction to this movie. Thanks for your post.

[@Dylan_Platt]

Oh wow, when you mentioned that Evie has a lot in common with Neo, I made a connection I never had before -- they both end their final confrontation with a simple, calm "No", despite being held at gunpoint.

[@voodoochile333]

They both have a pulse. Similarity ends

[@Dylan_Platt]

@@voodoochile333 Startlingly insightful.

[@CrayCruz]

Never made that connection either, until now. Thanks!

[@davelister2961]

Same directors. Their consistent theme is saying "no" to conformity, authority and totalitarianism (in thought or deed).

[@jovalleau]

"I hope it's not some horror movie." Natalie, when you realize what this movie is warning against, it become more terrifying than any horror movie you could dream of.

[@nateriver4951]

I sincerely hope this is hyperbolic.

[@Dasharr]

I agree with the OP on that one. Horror movies rarely scare me because I know that the monsters aren't real and can't be real. V for Vendetta's future is chilling because its fascist Britain was plausible the year that the film came out, and it's even more plausible this year.

[@raifthemad]

@@Dasharr Well I lived in soviet union, and I see with dread all the loonie leftist trying to bring about that horrible abomination in the west. Couple of years ago saw a Corbin rally, looked a lot like something straight out of soviet union, only people were better fed and there voluntarily.

[@valence686]

@@raifthemad tankies aren't true leftists, they're just deluded right wing ideological purists that think they're still defending the left.

[@Dasharr]

@@raifthemad In the western world, the mainstream right is far closer to fascism than the mainstream left is to communism. In fact the mainstream left is so far away from communism that the comparisons are disingenuous. For example, Corbyn got painted as some kind of far-left extremist for a policy platform of limited re-nationalisation of railways. The railways that were state-owned for most of their existence through both Tory and Labour governments, and only got privatised during Thatcher's time as PM. Since then the mainstream left has moved rightwards towards the centre and the mainstream right has moved further right (from Thatcher's already hard-right stance), and still the right accuses the left of being far-left.

[@phantom_stag1366]

I watch this movie every year, and it chokes me up every time. Even just watching you react, I could feel it all again. Thank you for this one.

[@matthewdevine8275]

I'm surprised she was so chill with the reveal that V was the one who imprisoned and tortured Portman's character. I was pretty disturbed by that.

[@system3008]

You're meant to be.

[@davidfunk3505]

This movie is set comfortably in my top 5 movies of *all* time.

[@sebastianemond5313]

15:44 - 16:02 Probably heartbroken not because she left, but because of what he put her through. V knew he couldn't be with Evey after what he had done; V said he wanted to end the torture and the lie, but he so was determined to build the drive and resolve in Evey that he couldn't end it. Evey is now like V, no fear and nothing left to lose, but through the parallels in their rebirths, him in fire while Evey in rain, it showed V how much of a monster he truly was because of the hate he bore. V had never experienced love until he met Evey, and that's why he chose to let her make the decision of whether to blow up Parliament.

[@ChrisXIllustratesXGaming]

So it's the equivalent of Thanos throwing Gamora off the mountain. Though he loves her his goal and beliefs trumps the love.

[@rootfish2671]

The Wachowskis didn't understand the fundamental story and themes for V For Vendetta otherwise they wouldn't have made such a basic story blunder by showing such a problematic relationship between Evey & V and depicting it in a positive light. Yeah totally empathize with a guy a dangerous lunatic who literally tortured you because of his political beleifs

[@sebastianemond5313]

​@rootfish2671 They both alike in wanting the world to change, but V's methods are too extreme and only invite more hatred inspite of the rising tide of revolution against Sutler. Evey, while she admires V, believes more in how Valerie lived, to feel love and to have love in your life, to apologise to no one for who you are and to never lose that small inch of yourself, that last bastion of freedom and choice despite tyranny and oppression throughout history. Valerie wrote a note to any anonymous person, hoping to inspire them with love despite never meeting and knowing them. Like I said, both were reborn, but Evey still kept the semblance of humanity that V had lost in his fiery escape from that prison.

[@rootfish2671]

@@sebastianemond5313 yeah he is capable of empathy but V in the movie and V in the comic are very different people and so is Evey, who is an underaged prostitute completely ignorant and can't have an independent thought outside of Norsefires propaganda because she was born after Norsefires rule. In the original story V doesn't care about Evey romantically or even cares about her basic human rights. He tortures her mainly to make sure he can trust her completely by not telling anyone where the shadow gallery is because V only cares about his fanatical devoting to have an anarchist society and the end justifys the means. He doesn't care if any innocent people are killed or suffer due to his actions because of his extremist beleifs. Also he tortures Evey because he is molding her to be carry on his work and be the next V because the symbol of V is more important than his own life. The whole point of the original story was complete facism vs complete anarchy and Alan Moore has said he leaves it up to the reader to decide which is better. Almost all of the characters in the comic are not good people because they live in such an extreme and dangerous environment. The sympathetic detective character allows and condones a group of homeless men to gangrape a female member of norsefire because she tries to convince him to gather up men to form a new facist government because V successfully destroyed their society and its now a different version of might makes right which ironically mirrors Norsefires beleifs. I don't care how pure you think your cause is, you don't torture those you supposedly care about because you're trying to convince them in your personal beleifs. Being torture is not something you easily get over or forgive, it is traumatizing and even with therapy you never 100% forget it because you can be unexpectedly triggered by something and you relive it just like it happened yesterday. Have you ever been waterboarded? I have had a version of it as a young child repeatedly because my mom would visit her friend and I would swim in her pool without adult supervision and every time a group of older neighborhood teenage boys would show up and one of them would grab be tight against their chest and rapidly jump up and down forcing me to be rapidly submerged where I couldn't breathe. I felt like I was drowning and I would scream for help terrified only to be dunked again breathing in water. I couldn't catch my breath or even tall coherently only primal animalistic terrified screaming because I thought and felt like I was dying and I screamed underwater rapidly deprived of oxygen. I couldn't stop screaming if I wanted to, that's how horrific torture is and they all would laugh and think it was the funniest thing ever and only stopped if the owner saw what they were doing and yelled at them. Not one of those boys ever apologized or showed any remorse or had any negative repercussions for their actions. None of the adults called the police or those boys parents because they didn't care, having fun playing cards than my life including my own mother. I could easily have drowned or be permanently reduced to a permanent vegetative state due to lack of oxygen. And you want to know what the real messed up part is? I kept going back to that pool of my own free will and didn't tell anyone and it kept happening because I was an innocent child who didn't know any better and was extremely emotionally and verbally abused by my mom and would completely freak out at me if I dared to complain or even bother her with anything. And that's the grim reality of the banality of evil, people will do all kinds of incredibly cruel and inhuman acts for seemingly no reason if they don't suffer any consequences for their actions including torturing innocent people.

[@evanflynn4680]

"He just got everybody in America laughing at the Chancellor getting shot" It's set in England, dear.

[@rycolligan]

America's beta test edition

[@jaydowns5744]

@@rycolligan Your president is orange... literally orange mate.

[@randomperson-up5vt]

@@jaydowns5744 and?

[@danieldickson8591]

Guess they should have been more thorough in the beta test, 'cause America today is buggy as all get-out.

[@NaihanchinKempo]

@@danieldickson8591 the roach has no home, by dec He will be drag out by his feet if need be. his clothes and belongings tossed on the street....

[@spiritscar]

So I’m sure at least a thousand people have told you this by now, but “V for Vendetta” is based on a graphic novel by one of the greatest comic book writers of all time, Alan Moore. “V for Vendetta the comic book was published in the mid-80s. Alan Moore is an English writer and he is brilliant. There’s a couple other Alan Moore adaptations with varying success. A particular Alan Moore adaptation I’d definitely recommend. “Watchemen The Ultimate Cut” The ultimate cut being the longest cut and truest to the source material. Watchmen is extraordinary.

[@aneeshmenon5885]

Watchmen is still my favourite comic book / graphic novel / superhero movie of all time. V for Vendetta is a close second

[@tripkingdrip666-cashaura5]

Before I even read the full title I knoe this will make you cry. About to enjoy. Thank you for all your work Natalie

[@Davey647Returns]

Oh this film hits ALOT harder than it did when I saw it years ago.

[@CrayCruz]

I wonder why?

[@jordinagel1184]

Yeah, it brings a lot of interesting parallels. Some stuff I don’t quite agree with, especially near the end (all seems a bit too anarchical), but there is A LOT that is extremely relevant in today’s world, and also some things that are generally just food for thought.

[@sebastian_tildent]

V for Vendetta it´s actually a comic of Alan Moore, you should read it if you want 10/10

[@foljs5858]

The people who died where in the crowd in the sense that they were vindicated

[@MacAisling]

Re: Hugo Weaving-me first time hearing Elrond speak: “Mr. Baggins, it would appear you have been living two lives...”

[@astalavista7251]

"My name......is UNDERHILL!"

[@Bakupa91]

Agent Elrond

[@sccello]

Welcome to Rivendell, Mr Anderson...

[@emynex7097]

I have seen this movie one hundred times and I still always cry on that note scene

[@محمدرضاپهلوی-ذ7ع]

*laugh

[@thekevindeucey]

This story is right up there with Logan's Run, 1984 and Animal Farm. In many ways it even has some Phontom of The Opera elements. Instant classic.

[@leovk5779]

True. But it's "Phantom". (Sorry).

[@rootfish2671]

I don't see what Phantom relates other both stories feature a disfigured man wearing a mask, thematically they are both very different stories and I'm referring to the original source material of both stories

[@vanhende]

"are we living in a big brother type world?!" yep, got it in one..

[@grimmjowespada2422]

She herself is not aware of it, saying to the Wachowski brothers that they are sisters. If you say black is white ... then who is living in illusion.

[@rapliberationarmy089]

@@grimmjowespada2422 that‘s what they call themselves now

[@fnglert]

It's the most realistic horror movie ever made. "Is it meaningless to apologize?" "Never."

[@MattII33]

It's not a horror movie

[@fnglert]

@@MattII33 Such a totalitarian government oppressing its people, and the past 4 years in the US have shown how realistic it can be, and you're claiming that's not horrific and frightening?

[@charlie7mason]

@@fnglert He's probably just in denial.

[@raifthemad]

@@fnglert And how was trump totalitarian again? Nominated twice for Nobel Peace prize, historic peace agreements in middle east, talking about bringing troops back home, prison reforms benefiting black people. If you think that he was any way more totalitarian than his predecessors, then stop watching the rich ruling class tell you what you should know, also known as mainstream news. Muppets like you would have been perfect citizens for soviet union, never question what they read from propaganda outlets. Oh yeah, first president of yours not opposing gay marriage when he got to office, etc.

[@fnglert]

@@raifthemad Guys, I found the apologist ... !

[@charlesjames5059]

This was honestly one of your best reactions. I thoroughly enjoyed watching this video. Thank you for watching this movie.

[@jaybenton7716]

The word is 'Collywobbles'. It means when someone is nervous, or anxious. It is a great word. ;)

[@Wirenfeldt1990]

This viewing of V for Vendetta is what made Arthur Weasley’s nickname for his wife “Mollywobbles” finally click for me..

[@1nelsondj]

Another old word I like is Codswallop.

[@TheBoondocksaint117]

That domino scene was, in fact, done in one tale with multiple cameras at multiple angles. The last domino standing was an accident, and Hugo picking it up and examining it was unscripted, but gives the scene a little added flavor or something that V didn't account for. It's one of my favorite details about the movie. EDIT: Also, I feel the need to say, the Wachowski's didn't come up with this on their own, it is an adaptation of a graphic novel of the same name by Alan Moore. The novel was a satirical condemnation of Margaret Thatcher's administration as Prime Minister of England. Many themes and lines were lifted straight from the graphic novel, with some notable exceptions. The backstory involving Larkhill was original to the film; and in the source material, V was just an anarchist and Evie was an underaged prostitute. Personally, I like the movie better. And the Wachowskis didn't direct the film, James McTeigue did.

[@stormy2184]

Such a great movie! I loved that his "superpower" is having an idea that can change the world. "Ideas are bulletproof".

[@ErdTirdMans]

...well, that and the potent abilities to move extremely fast, be crazy accurate, and uncharacteristically strong as shown in multiple scenes and also told by Delia in her diary

[@smileyhappyface5864]

@@ErdTirdMans All of those are just more physical displays of what the op said.

[@josephblumenberg6574]

Still one of my favorite performances of Hugo Weaving!

[@enlightendbel]

"Oh, is he gay". Did you mean Stephen or the character he plays? Answer is yes.

[@Glaaki13]

lol good one

[@jemimus]

Stephen Fry basically played himself. I love that.

[@McShaganpronouncedShaegen]

He is a gentleman and a scholar above all else. His sexual orientation has if nothing else helped him to truly love others.

[@robertmartin9029]

This movie had so many excellent performances. Stephen Frye was great, as always. Natalie Portman and Hugo Weaving obviously. Even the villains were done to perfection to gradually make the audience realize just how corrupted a state like this could become while the public turned a blind eye until they were made to look.

[@LitoSi]

Loved this movie 15 years ago and loved this reaction 5 minutes ago. Good job!

[@victorsos100]

Leon The Professional is mandatory after this. Excellent movie. Trust US.

[@mnomadvfx]

Hahhahaha NP's characters don't have a lot of luck with father figures do they? Excepting Hanna in Heat of course, but she has a deadbeat dad in that film too.

[@notjustjet6834]

you're supposed to watch this on the 5th of november... every year.

[@ueno1]

For the rest of our lives.

[@k5sss]

Hits a little harder than usual on Nov 5th, 2024.

[@TodayWithKyle]

People need this movie now more than ever.

[@jonmercano1138]

Remember, remember, 5 days ago

[@andrewlhoover]

This is one of my favorite movies and re-watch it every couple of years or so. "Remember, remember, the 5th of November..." I also love the "Count of Monte Cristo" as well.

[@adamoksiuta4715]

Edmund Dantes is a character from "Count of Monte Christo".

[@myteatime2836]

This is in my top 5 favorite movies and you are Awesome!!! Subscribed!😊🙌💜

[@Enter_Sadman]

"The Wachowski Sisters are such good writers" Jupiter Ascending would like to know your location

[@Cthulhu013]

I would love to hear their story as to how they fucked that one up so much.

[@Dylan_Platt]

It's like they said "what if where we normally put heartfelt and resonant themes, we were just as Extra as GD possible instead"

[@iansmart4158]

@@Cthulhu013 one movie aside I think they’re both still geniuses. Sense8 and Cloud Atlas are such open hearted pieces of work. And Speed Racer is just wonderful.

[@ComandoPadentro]

Everyone has a bad day at the office... they're still great writers

[@3DJapan]

I loved that movie.

[@Badgerman494]

"No, what you have are bullets, and the hope that when your guns are empty I am no longer standing, because if I am... You'll all be dead before you've reloaded,"

[@HannahG-nk2mf]

such as badass line!

[@KirkMoss]

“Are we living in, like, a Big-Brother type world?” Yes, Natalie. Yes we are. 😂

[@darrensutton87]

you just watched a doc on 2021

[@esterzach]

I caught that too. Is she that innocent? Or she didn't realized what she had said?

[@aegisreflector1239]

@@esterzach I know right

[@levi9486]

We all have voluntarily purchased a GPS tracker that we keep in our pocket that listens to everything we say and can see everything we do. Sooooo......yes and we asked for it.

[@Gnossiene369]

Yes, America is definitely the world. They rule the world and their shitshow defines the entire planet, totally.

[@evilalex87]

One of the best comicbook films ever made, love it.

[@mikedignum1868]

Fun fact..I was on duty in the London Traffic Control Centre throughout the filming and went down to Trafalgar Square on the night they filmed the final scene.

[@SL-mj2eq]

NO according to Nat this is America!!! ;-)

[@RudyBleeker]

@Mike Dignum did you get to wear a mask and be part of the extras? Or did you only watch? Still cool though.

[@mikedignum1868]

@@RudyBleeker watch as we were dealing with the road closures / diversions. Many retakes.. Kind of boring.

[@jburgs100]

Have been watching your reactions for a few days and you have totally gained another subscriber. your reactions show how you are truly an amazing human being. much love from New Zealand

[@ilFanEditore]

Worthy of recognition is the amazing score by Italian composer Dario Marianelli! One of the best movie soundtracks ever!

[@user-vc5rp7nf8f]

V: (giving moving, monumental, revolutionary speech on tv to the masses) Nat: aww cute he put the little V logo in the corner, i like that

[@MesserJosh]

This was fantastic. Every time I watch one of your videos I have a smile on my face.

[@newfate26]

"The Watchowski sisters are such good writer!" Me: "Yeah, that's Alan Moore right there."

[@TroubleSturm]

"There are no eyes here" is a line from T.S. Eliot's poem, "The Hollow Men"

[@TheFinePlayer]

So glad you reacted to this, one of my fav movies of all time!

[@westwrd82]

I think "Children of Men" should be next.

[@zombiemom7378]

I second this motion.

[@sadmachine7486]

'Children of Men' and 'Master & Commander' are probably my top 2 movies post 2000.

[@danielgarrett979]

I think she would be better off watching Of Mice and Men.

[@Jordacar]

12:00 "He got everybody in America laughing!" You mean England. Everybody in England.

[@JulietteReacts]

Thankyou for doing V! I was one of the people who suggested it would be good for Nov 5th. It's one of my favourites. I cry every time I watch the Valerie scene. Every time. I remember seeing the film at the cinema with family member when I was a baby gay in the closet and it was so, so painful. It still is but it's also beautiful.

[@daved2352]

Every time I've watched this movie the Valerie story makes me cry. Its so beautifully told.

[@skyscreamstudios]

That was fun. Thanks! If you haven't seen Galaxy Quest ... you should watch Galaxy Quest! 👍

[@flatebo1]

Of course, it's helpful if you're familiar with Original Trek first.

[@skyscreamstudios]

@@flatebo1 It is helpful but certainly not required. It's a very well crafted film that can stand on it's own two feet. In my opinion. Cheers.

[@flatebo1]

@@skyscreamstudios Yeah, but a lot of the jokes - like why everyone hates Nesmith or Dane's (Rickman's) hatred for his character - resonate a bit better when you're familiar with the background. That background knowledge takes an otherwise solid joke and brings it up to a whole new level.

[@skyscreamstudios]

@@flatebo1 Look. I was just trying to suggest something that's FUN. I don't like horror films. Not a fan of weepy drama's. Got real life for those. I already said what I was going to say. Have a great day.

[@LeighMet]

Please note that V for Vendetta was written in the 1980's in part as a protest to Thatchian England and turned into a movie 20 some years later so it kinds of loses something in translation.

[@paulelroy6650]

Not really it fits well with our times now.

[@marekbarycz4397]

Created. Comic books are created. Without artists vision Alan Moore writing would be not as impactfull.

[@brusher79]

They movie was released just a few years after 9/11. If you subscribe to 9/11 having some government component, and the security measures imposed on Americans post 9/11 by the government, than the movie was also relevant to the times.

[@SerHenkan]

@@brusher79 Not to mention what is happening with censorship by big tech, mainstream media, and certain political parties enforcing, or wanting to enforce, certain speech rules.

[@Glaaki13]

@@brusher79 It was writen by an Anarchist

[@DarthTach]

Fun Fact: John Hurt was the main character in the dystopian movie 1984 (based on the book by George Orwell) where he is the down trodden one crushed under the bureaucracy of Big Brother. The director wanted him to play the Big Brother in this movie.

[@archstanton664]

"Excuse me, where did you get those roses?" Me: How dafook did she lift him up there?! lol

[@danilooliveira6580]

and how did he get so many masks ? answer: don't think about it

[@zaftra]

He was injured, not dead, he got himself there

[@nimz8521]

Well the subway entrance was literally right by his hideout where he had a ton of those roses. The lifting part... The mask part... It's most plausible that he falsified government credentials to order them from China or something. How else would he have access to everyone's home address? He knew about the emergency broadcast system so he did his research and was pretty meticulous about it. It's not stated in the movie though.

[@ikani1]

Suggesting Evey can't lift?

[@Crespwnian]

I love that you are doing this one, and just got home perfect timing :)

[@sadmanshakib7646]

yeah lol I just rewatched the movie, cuz yknow 5th of November and what not, and needed to see someone else feel what I felt. So thanks for this. I subscribed and I hope I'll see more content from you. P.S. The dead people at the end didn't actually return or were hiding till the event took place. Basically them showing up signifies that the idea lives on. My take at least.

[@eduard05ilva]

If you love the Wachowskis, you need to see the series called Sense8.... It's trully an amazing show. PS: i really enjoy your reactions 🤗💚

[@juliocesarg.r.1238]

absolutely, that show is so good

[@mattlohr]

I know many people who are reduced to tears by the last five minutes of this film.

[@steveallen8987]

V for Vendetta is a British graphic novel written by Alan Moore and illustrated by David Lloyd (with additional art by Tony Weare).

[@Slgjgnz]

This is maybe the best anti-fascism movie there is, love it so much. Always happy to see others discovering it, your reaction was as awesome as always.

[@Martyntd5]

This kind of social control/abuse isnt limited to the political right. In fact real world examples are far more common and more extreme on the political left.

[@thomashiggins9320]

@@Martyntd5 No. Extremists are equally opposed to individual civil liberties, whether left-wing or right-wing extremists. They are *equally bad*.

[@Martyntd5]

@@thomashiggins9320 Yes, I would include religious extremism too. Whatever your ideology, when you start to think that you are so right that your views need to be forced onto others for their own good or the general good of the population, you have gone very wrong.

[@clarkbarrett6274]

Try Jo Jo Rabbit. V is brilliant, but Jo Jo is actually more powerful. (And real....at least until now anyway)

[@danilooliveira6580]

@@Martyntd5 this has absolutely nothing to do with left or right, just authoritarian vs libertarian. left and right are not the only political spectrum. the regime of V for Vendetta looks like a classic hitler/Mussolini fascist regime, but we don't know a lot about it. it could very well be a Stalinist totalitarian government as much as it could be a corporativist authority.