Could Stephs' 2017 Warriors defeat Jordans' 1996 Bulls? Broussard decides | NBA | FIRST THINGS FIRST

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[@ruelandrade5185]

That era was weak come n man smh

[@herschelpatel7115]

@@ruelandrade5185 1996 Bulls would beat the 2017 Warriors in a 7 game series. It would be close but Jordan would probably be the deciding factor. SRS which computes a score given a teams margin of victory throughout the season adjusted for strength of schedule, basically measures how good a team was for a given season. Where an SRS score of 0 is average. 96 Bulls had an SRS of 11.80 and the 2017 Warriors had an SRS of 11.35, both are in the all time top 5 SRS's. Reddit users UnlikelyTicket created a metric using the SRS to rank the all time most difficult runs to a championship basically how difficult were your opponents. The 96 Bulls are ranked 14th and the 2017 Warrior are 21st. The 96 Bulls went 72-10 with an SRS score of 11.80 and the 14th most difficult championship run and won. Q.E.D the 96 Bulls would beat the 2017 Warrirors.

[@ragingoracle6239]

@@ruelandrade5185 This era is weak - no defense - not physical,, The NBA is the Euro league of the 90's and the Euro league right now is the NBA of the 90's.. The NBA right now is softer than the Euro leagues and I never woulda though I would see that happen.. stop it...

[@gomezvj]

Generational ego. Nick is silly.

[@TheFarrSyde_]

America has recognized that NIck Wright has lost his mind when he says Pippen is a distand 4th behind KD and Steph

[@FrameCounting]

God, I love this segment. Nick's outrage at Wildes is awesome! This show is so much better now than when it first started.

[@jacobladder6584]

yeah , no dum-dum Marshall

[@wpol475]

Chris carter dragged the show down imo. Too much interrupting, you could tell chemistry wasnt there with Nick

[@gabrielherrera2105]

@@wpol475 CC sonned Nick all the time. Made him seem like a bench player

[@Rick.Gonzalez]

yup, chris carter just had an "i played in the nfl so i know more than you" mentality with nick, i think this trio is awesome cause no one can pull the "i played you didnt" card

[@landisreynolds8496]

Right! I did like Brandon tho. But Chris Broussard was basically a guest everyday before anyways

[@evh4611]

This show is getting better and better. Broussard is a fantastic addition

[@houligizzle4753]

Dumb question Nick! With a championship on the line, you think Kerr 'd rather coach than play!?

[@fredtacang3624]

Kerr himself settled this already. He said that the '96 bulls were built for this era. They were a strong defensive team. And kerr likewise said that if mj was unguardable then, much more today with all the spacing and (lax) rules As a member of both teams, I believe in what kerr is saying

[@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE]

He’s bias. He played with them so it makes him look tougher. Furthermore most would rather be remembered as a great player versus a great coach

[@coldbloodedclowns6797]

100%…..The bulls would play full court take away that deep ball. The entire offense runs through Steph and Jordan would disrupt that. The bulls would slow down the warriors but the warriors would have no answer for MJ….thats the difference. Plus Rodman chews up rebounds, Green has no chance

[@Timely864]

​@@coldbloodedclowns6797 DELUSIONAL

[@hughhefner5348]

​@@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSEhe wasn't a great player though so thats in his realm of thinking

[@sportstalkonly1442]

​@@coldbloodedclowns6797this is such a delusional take

[@landisreynolds8496]

“He’ll win MVP when Jordan averages 36, 13 & 9” - Nick Wright. That was beautiful and had me laughing so hard

[@wattssgood]

Fr😂😂

[@114D]

In this NBA for a God like MJ that’s wouldn’t be a problem. Nick Wright is a clown and acts like Jordan was allergic to rebounds and assists. I already know he is a clown in make up for making assists arguments not knowing how the game changed and the system MJ played in.

[@landisreynolds8496]

@@114D no what he was saying is iguodala won mvp for his defense against lebron even tho lebrons numbers were phenomenal

[@114D]

@@landisreynolds8496 Ok, so it’s ridiculous either way because if he can’t hold LBJ jock he can’t hold MJs either. Nick doesn’t understand how dominant MJ can be in an NBA where there is a 3 second rule and there isn’t a titan waiting for him in the paint. It’s not just shot for shot. It’s other factors like getting into foul trouble. Iggy would be a none factor. Curry is notorious for having a bad Finals series forget about a Finals game. Durant wins the Pippen matchup but he isn’t scoring more than 25 on him. Pippen was lanky and could move with KD and body him up. The Warriors are a Super Team but the Bulls were a team that played Super. The matchups favor the Bulls.

[@ricardolozano5356]

by padding stats

[@imnotfromhere15]

8:47 Nick: "oh I'm gonna pass out" 😂

[@kyleblount2747]

I can’t believe I missed this 😂

[@michaelnattoo2633]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@josnercharles1058]

Nick be killing me😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Catlife247]

Great call out! Classic!

[@topshotta2000]

Lol

[@rojeliocastro9733]

They’ll say this then say the Bulls were never a super team. It just doesn’t make sense

[@fu2lstop]

They weren't the warriors they weren't a super team either till they got Durant ‼️the only reason we know all the players on the bull is because they were good at winning. Jordan stayed on the team they drafted pippen and got rodman from the Spurs, rodman wasn't concerned a hall of famer till he joined the bulls, and pippen was nothing without Jordan on the rockets and Portland

[@Censored4UViaGoogle]

If the warriors were so great why didn’t they three peat?

[@rojeliocastro9733]

@@Censored4UViaGoogle Is that a genuine question?

[@TheGymReaper1]

Wildes and Broussard have solidified this show! Great dynamic

[@bishopbad373]

Nick is right, this is about the bulls and GSW, and Chris bringing up LBJ 🤣🤣🤣 people are delusional

[@calebcicero7727]

i can’t stand wilde’s

[@TheGymReaper1]

@@calebcicero7727 why not he's a little corky, but I find him hilarious

[@isaiahwilliams3809]

Absolutely

[@Militarize]

The show gets rid of Nick this show could become one of the best in sports talk shows. Nick holds this show down and brings rating down. The show has done better without Nick and ratings show it.

[@kefkapalazzo1]

Did Broussard just compare Shaq and penny to the 2017 warriors lmao and did he act like the warriors don’t play defense

[@boricuafrican1]

Shaq would've snapped KD like a twig

[@joshhighwind9886]

Shaq would average 40+ against that warriors team lmao.

[@mimeblood4]

@@joshhighwind9886 And KD and Steph would average 40 each against the Magic.

[@KC0721]

@@mimeblood4 KD and Steph couldnt even average that against the soft defense being played now

[@boricuafrican1]

@@mimeblood4 why didn't they do that then? this is the least defensive era ever.

[@davidecd]

What a series it would have been! 2017 GSW vs 1996 Bulls.

[@carlitoskingwilson]

Gsw in 5

[@fredtacang3624]

@@carlitoskingwilson Bulls in 5, if kerr himself is to he believed He said that the '96 bulls were built for this era. They were a strong defensive team. And kerr likewise said that if mj was unguardable then, much more today with all the spacing and (lax) rules As a member of both teams, I think kerr knows what he's saying

[@jamyateam3187]

Sweep for warriors

[@carlitoskingwilson]

@@fredtacang3624 I’m sorry man the warriors are just too good. No one man on the bulls is first don’t steph, kD or klay because they’re moving the entire time so it’s a bunch of switches. 2017 warriors are the greatest team ever

[@carlitoskingwilson]

No one man is defending *

[@kefkapalazzo1]

Broussard is throwing out every cliche in the book

[@R0yalty]

The hypocrisy of Broussard in these debates is crazy, when it comes to these type of questions he talks about the Bulls being godly stacked team that would beat the Warriors with KD, but then when it comes to a LeBron-Jordan debate, he ignores his own fact that Jordan had a godly stacked team LMFAO

[@kefkapalazzo1]

@@R0yalty facts bro. The bulls supporting cast is good enough to beat the warriors, yet they’re not good enough to eclipse Lebrons help

[@R0yalty]

@@kefkapalazzo1 It's embarassing bro lol

[@mikemills4007]

@@R0yalty yup. And he defends Lebron when it comes to some of his finals loses because 2007/15/17/18 there was clearly nothing he could have done to beat those teams. But then he throws that context out the window and uses the losses to build up Jordan

[@R0yalty]

@@mikemills4007 No cap

[@YuGiOhDuelChannel]

KD warriors and its a wrap, crazy Chris is going that hard for the Bulls like it ain't even close, that Warriors team was absolutely insanity.

[@boricuafrican1]

not to Kawhi...

[@YuGiOhDuelChannel]

@@boricuafrican1 Not sure what you mean here, we have never seen KD Warriors vs Kawhi finish a series vs each other.

[@risingphoenix1484]

The Bulls win.... why best line up vs best line up... the Bulls have the better defenders.... Jordan Pippen Harper (greatest perimeter defense of all time) vs Steph, Klay, Andre (not bad but stef would get exposed quickly) Toni Kukcoc (solid defender not great but makes it up with 3 point shooting) vs Durant (Durant wins this battle) K Dennis Rodman (Greatest rebounder and defender of all time, who is gonna stop him from getting boards) vs Draymond (Rodman wins this battle) .... Oh yeah, Bulls bigger and stronger at every position. Defense wins championships.

[@boricuafrican1]

@@YuGiOhDuelChannel well because the Warriors took out Kawhi's ankle cause he and the Spurs were straight up destroying them in game 1 of the WCF...Kawhi had no fear of them.

[@YuGiOhDuelChannel]

@@boricuafrican1 That doesn't mean anything tho because we have never seen them play a "full" series. I mean the GSW could have sweeped them after that Spurs win, we don't know, or the Spurs could have won the series, we have no idea what could have happened

[@curtisdrue5254]

I agree 1. Bulls defense whether played in the 90's or today's league would've smothered their offense. 2. Bulls would had put golden state in foul trouble early and often , because Bulls weren't afraid to attack the basket. 3.Bulls BEAT teams with way better defenses than golden boys NY. Detroit, Seattle,and etc. NUFF SAID

[@RobinXlone]

jordan never beat a dpoy on a team. the bulls is not smothering anything thats how u get caught up in the off ball movement of steph curry

[@MikeSchmidt969]

@@RobinXlone No because they were always ON THE BULLS.

[@DaInfantOne]

Smothering? Bulls are no where near the top defenses in the NBA as far as history goes. The warriors offense? Yea, let’s not even talk about that cus it would be laughable to say they aren’t the best ever. Bulls aren’t nearly as skilled as Warriors, so Warriors being in foul trouble? Huh? The bulls would be in foul trouble. Pippin is not going to avg 30 for the series, so who is your 2nd option? Bulls would not score enough to beat Warriors.

[@seandavid1012]

@@RobinXlone have you ever heard of Gary payton? He was dpoy in 96..jordan beat him in finals in 6

[@nicstone3141]

Dude leave the Pistons off that list Bulls didnt get through them until they was washed

[@keenonmyers620]

The way some people evade logic and reasoning when it comes to MJ in basketball arguments is INSANE

[@jimmyb4361]

😂😂😂😂😂 they do it all the time nothing new. Smh

[@SoakedSponge]

The place where subjectivity becomes their objectivity 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@tjaekeysofficial]

I know right.

[@tjaekeysofficial]

They CANT GUARD THE WARRIORS at the 3 point Line. YOU HAVE TO DOUBLE STEPH. FROM HALF COURT!!! And if you dont double steph, Klay is at the corner. And if you dont double Klay you gotta double Durant. If not One of them is going to score. And 3 equals more than 2. If MJ puts up 50 points!!! Pippen puts up 25, And the rest of the team can sink 50 thats literally 125 points. And we got the greatest shooter of all time open shooting 45% from 3 taking 25 shots, Durant a 50% FG shooter taking 30 shots Klay a 42% 3pt shooter taking 22 shots. Thats already atleast Steph dropping 33, durant dropping 35, klay dropping 30 and iguodala and draymond dropping atleast 35 combined. Thats 133. The movement off the ball from the warriors are insane cuz you have to guard 3 deadeye shooters ALL AT ONCE. It’s impossible to guard.

[@hectorcervantes4025]

@@tjaekeysofficial so who’s guarding Jordan aka the best offensive player ever? Bulls have 3 of the greatest perimeter defenders of all time so they can handle the warriors just like Houston almost did.

[@abhilekh3895]

When even nick says things correct you gotta give it to the warriors cmon.

[@Markis07-j2u]

no bulls in 6

[@deangeloj4349]

Glad that nick stopped wildes in the middle of that outrageous argument. Theres no way kerr is going to tell curry to guard mj 1 on 1!!🤣🤣 mj would obviously be guarded by iguodala and dray

[@ciccio40105]

Dray is way too slow for mj. And iguodala was only effective when playing 24-26 minutes. Mj would average 35 in a series like that.... Pippen as a 10x all defensive team would lock up Durant, klay would score 10 points top with Jordan on him and average ike 5 turnover a game and curry has Harper (known as great perimeter defender). Who gonna score draymond?

[@deangeloj4349]

@@ciccio40105 i said “iggy and dray” not “iggy or dray” mj would be doubled which would force him to pass like when he passed to kerr for the gw shot “cuz he was doubled”

[@ciccio40105]

@@deangeloj4349 Yeah but you are just going to get jordan assisist.... you know no one gives him credit for it but he actually averaged over 11 assists one of his nba finals series....Plus he'll still drop at least 30. Also who's going to guard kukoc, Longley or kerr? (assuming u got durant on pippen)

[@kevenrowe2958]

@@ciccio40105 pippen def wouldn’t lock up Kd you sound crazy. Kd would literally shoot over the top of who is stopping his shot

[@ciccio40105]

@@kevenrowe2958 yeah thats y kd has 6 rings and 2 three peats......not. Michael is a better scorer than kd and the bulls have a crazy defense no way he scores more than 30. Michael could easily drop 50, who's gonna guard him klay? 😂😂😂 foh he'll drop 60

[@sportsandstuff99]

Defensively the Bulls can matchup pretty well: Jordan on Steph, Harper on Klay, Pip on KD, Kukoc on Iggy, Rodman on Draymond. The other thing people forget is the 3 point line was shorten in 1996, something to consider there.

[@iri101]

agreed. However, I think that warriors are just a bad matchup for the bulls. They were dominate in similar ways. However, warriors shoot way more threes. they made 12+ threes a game when with a shorten line bulls made 16 threes. This alone cause a large margin of error between the bulls and warriors.

[@johnnycoop8694]

How are they gonna score with GS? GS was the best defensive team in the league, they gotta play offense too

[@magiktv414]

Iggy is getting the best of kukoc unless the bulls can stop them from scoring 115+

[@Silasx4]

And hand checking was a thing back then. You know, the rule that makes it difficult to shoot off screens. The one thing Steph and Klay uses frequently. So this statement is a non-starter.

[@Silasx4]

@@johnnycoop8694 no one on the Warriors team will stop Jordan from averaging 50 to 60 pts in that matchup

[@AllBackends]

Sure sounds like Jordan had some good help if people really believe the 96 Bulls could beat the 2017-2018 Warriors

[@boricuafrican1]

he did...that's what made them so good, the role players played their roles perfectly.

[@hny2396]

The Warriors barely beat the Rockets with Harden who we have seen since the rule changes has looked like trash.

[@khalidahmed-qq1qw]

@@hny2396 except the rockets designed their entire game to try to beat the warriors. They literally built the team for that matchup and still lost.

[@fundy023]

@@khalidahmed-qq1qw They only lost because Chris Paul got hurt. And if they're such a dominating team to think they'd get through the Bulls it shouldn't have been close. Does anyone really believe Houston would have had a shot against the Bulls?

[@kendreviusclincy4377]

@@fundy023 that’s wasn’t 2017 tho

[@arjaymartin563]

Every time Lebron, MJ or the Warriors are mentioned, it's a good segment. Always great for debates but nothing ever gets resolved anyway.

[@legaci2164]

Yeah but Nick, Jordan and Pippen achieved two 3 peats together, Durant and Curry 2 championships together, they could’ve won more but Durant left…stil no guarantees they could’ve won more…but Jordan and Pippen actually did it, an unbeatable record even today…I’m rolling with Jordan and Pippen 💯

[@dadillonful]

Bulls played against plumbers

[@clintmcneil2407]

​@@dadillonfulCACAHOLE, if bulls played against plumbers , warriors played against SISSIES that dont play DEFENSE, OK CACAHOLE

[@ulyssescasio9939]

Coz MJ was guarded by Hornaceck and Gary Payton. 🤣

[@clintmcneil2407]

@@ulyssescasio9939 wats your point huh🤔

[@Lovechie4life]

@@ulyssescasio9939 Payton is one of the best defensive guard of all time. lol.. you obviously don't know anything.

[@sanen]

Best First take video ever! Nick went bonkers!! Love the emotion.

[@ruelandrade5185]

Bulls would lose all day everyday come on media you guys should know basketball

[@Ninjersey1]

He’s only defending the warriors cuz that’s Lebrons comp he gotta make them seem unbeatable when Lou Williams took 2 games from them lol

[@joshloach9016]

@@ruelandrade5185 boi you crazy lolol

[@Baccanaso]

@@Ninjersey1 exactly

[@Kenandgratdiary]

This is ridiculous🤦‍♂️ Jordan had to go 6 against Payton Kemp 🤣🤣🤣 and Broussard wanna say Warriors are not 1 game better than them???????

[@Markis07-j2u]

they were 1 win less than the warroirs that year 64 wins pretty good if u ask me

[@dominicharris5489]

@@Markis07-j2u Yall gotta stop doing comparisons like that. the entire competition in the league was much better today then the 90s. that sonics team is not even as good as teams like the 2015 hawks. the bulls have barely beaten an old stockton and malone amongst other teams not even close to the talent of the warriors. its stupid to say the bulls can contain that warriors offense

[@Markis07-j2u]

@@dominicharris5489 bro the supersonics are good enough to make conference finals they had a prime shawn kemp and gary payton. and pippen was injured for the series againsed the jazz as well and that was in 1998 or 1997 that was an old bulls team ron harper can guard steph if leflo[ fans say that scottie was amazing one of the best defensively could guard anyone, then he can guard KD easy right? he can keep up physically and mj will cook klay for 50 a game bulls would win easy inn 6 no tema has faced such defense and the bulls were 3.0 when facing the supersonics about to sweep the warriors have no defense outside green and dennis will beat him as well i got bulls in 5 or 6 in both era's they have the greatest scorer and defensive tea, of all time

[@jackswaggerty9267]

The real question should be “Could the ‘96 Bulls beat the ‘17 Warriors? I give the Warriors this in 5 or 6 games. Michael, I love ya, but even if you score 50, it’s not gonna be enough for KD’s 28, Steph, 25, and Klay’s 22

[@princecheck11]

you act like the bulls dont have 3 players that can get 20+ points

[@KC0721]

Only player that can maybe still average the same is KD, and thats a big maybe. Steph and Klay will be playing like steve kerr coz they’ll be locked up by MJ and Harper. Curry cant even score against 5’ tall Steady Freddy Vanvleet.

[@JinghisKhan]

We playing under modern rules or old ones where flagrant fouls didn't exist? Because given their experience with those old Detroit Pistons teams, the Bulls could basically start REALLY hacking the Warriors and I don't think Golden State can play with the same mindset or attitude.

[@proeraxjordan8349]

People act like Steph didn’t struggle vs dellavedova for the first 4 games of the 2015 NBA finals and that’s the real reason he didn’t win finals MVP. Could you imagine Jordan guarding curry? Best defensive SG of all time and best defensive SF of all time in the same team guarding KD. With that being said, it all comes down to what era they’re playing in.

[@Silasx4]

@@princecheck11 with no hand checking you think Jordan is only going to average 20+?! Look at what I wrote. 'No hand checking' That makes a big difference.

[@Cultburgerinc]

So Broussard thinks Becuase they beat “ok” shooters nick Anderson and Dennis Scott as he said , that they could keep up with the greatest shooting team of all time ?

[@2robjenkins]

That was an embarrassing take, that magic team played nothing like the warriors, they played inside out with Shaq. The warriors are running pick and rolls and setting flare screens and back screens at 30 feet out. Not even close to comparable.

[@warrenpughsley8352]

That isnt what he’s saying. They shoot great until they play teams that play great defense. The Magic had good shooting (Dennis Scott is top 10) because they had a dominant player inside AND a great point guard with size. The Bulls SWEPT them!!! That is because the Bulls shortest starter was 6’6”. How does Steph deal with that? Who does he guard? Y’all forget the Warriors have to defend the Bulls. Defense wins championships! Warriors best a team that could t defend. When they almost lost to Houston until CP3 got hurt, (was down 3-2), they swept Cleveland. So obviously Cleveland wasn’t good. The ‘96 Bulls are the best team ever. Even the NBA 2K simulator had Bulls in 6.

[@chrismoneystl]

Because of eras the comparisons will never be one to one. It was the closest he could come up with and I think it was fair.

[@mikeserrano6548]

I’m the biggest warriors fan but I think it will go 7 …if the sad harden rockets went 7 with warriors in 18 …that bulls defense will disrupt the warriors offense and it will be toss up in game 7…when you shooting team all it takes it’s going cold from shooting one night to lose the series but when you rely on defense your chances of winning will be higher ..and bulls relied more on defense than the warriors.

[@matthewpraayjr.9797]

That was the greatest perimeter defending team that was ever put together they are the only team that has good matchups against the Warriors all time Ron Harper was all NBA defense second team Michael Jordan all NBA defensive First team Scottie Pippen all NBA defensive first team former defensive player of the year two times Dennis Rodman all NBA defense second team that year Jordan would take steps lunch money

[@AtagoSKK]

Recency bias is just as bad as nostalgia

[@ronilsalazar9955]

Nick is right on this one"generation ego", if you ask media after 15 years from now, they will pick the warriors

[@nikosvault]

Well he is overlooking his own generation ego.

[@robf760]

Lmao no they wont. Just like Jordan will still be the measuring stick for greatness.

[@irshadpthenryprimetimehenr4356]

Nick is wrong like he always is cause he hates jordan loves LeBron to much

[@BonesDMS4life]

Nah micheal Jordan is the measuring stick of greatness .

[@FreshmanFrenzy]

I love how Jordan didn’t have much help but they’re the greatest team ever and better than every other team in NBA history lol Jordan stans contradict themselves on the daily.

[@Joes35]

Who said he didn’t have help? We said 6 rings in 13 years. 4 rings in 19 years. What’s better?

[@nickgeorge745]

@@Joes35 by that logic bill Russell is the best player ever so that argument is invalid

[@Joes35]

@@nickgeorge745 lol not if you actually know anything. Bill Russell played in an era of 8 teams for most of his career. Anyone with half a brain wouldn’t make that argument.

[@nickgeorge745]

@@Joes35 that’s not my argument I’m just saying you can’t base greatness off of championships alone

[@hughhefner5348]

He did in the last 3 peat. He didn't in first 3 fool

[@CapnPink28]

“If the question involves MJ, he’s the right answer” Best rebuttal ever!

[@CrankyDoodleDandy]

Depends if MJ takes it personally 😂 Great teams do it consistently year on year. And Nick needs to remember the rules were different then as they are now

[@jamesbay7763]

So kawhi Leonard locked up Kevin Durant in game 1 of and then got injured so are we saying Scotty can't lock up Kevin Durant but kawaii can and the warriors were down by 25 when he got injured

[@davidcalderon2161]

The rules don’t matter if you can move the ball in a elite fashion and steph, KD and klay can shoot deeep from 3 efficiently it’s not like they just chucking either they all shoot near or above 40 percent for their careers

[@CrankyDoodleDandy]

@@davidcalderon2161 surely they do matter. It looks easier to attack the paint now than before. And it’s not as if the bulls couldn’t drop from 3. Teams then preferred better percentages on 2’s than 3’s.

[@HT-sm9dm]

@@davidcalderon2161 the rules absolutely matter. KD would not be able to carry the living sh*t out the ball in 1996. Even Michael Jordan got called for carrying 3 times in a single playoff game in the 90s. Imagine what the refs would do with KD’s ball handling style. Also all the extra steps these guys are allowed nowadays to set their feet helps when their taking those 3s. Foot position is vital in shooting a basketball.

[@jahleelx9270]

@@HT-sm9dm rules don't matter. warriors would dominate in either era

[@Cutty2]

People forget that that same warriors team went 7 to a rockets team with cp3 in and out of the lineup

[@m1xd2323]

The same warriors team was down 23 in Game 1 against the Spurs before Zaza recked Kawhi. The way the media acts like they are some unbeatable juggernauts just because they beat LeBron is infuriating. They are not the greatest team of all-time and never were.

[@jonaschisolm1368]

That was a 65 win team and CP3 didn’t miss time until the end of the series. They were a great team

[@Kbtrey4]

yet those bulls teams struggled with teams like the pacers… same could be said both ways

[@tmot6714]

That was 2018 after the repeat

[@nbastalgiacritic1751]

Ok? And Jordan was struggling to beat a Reggie killer lead pacers team. Peopl are arguing who’s better klay or Reggie.

[@jasonjordan8376]

In this argument, people always forget 2 things: Kukoc would start at center and be a beast, and the Bulls defense wouldn’t be effected a whole lot by the rule changes because Jordan, Harper, and Pippen were more finesse defenders then thuggish defenders.

[@sportstalkonly1442]

Kukoc can start at whatever he wanted. Bulls getting demolished

[@A.Oudit_]

As long as people pay $400 for $40 dollar sneakers, Jordan and the Bulls are the greatest ever. Men out here defending their sneaker collection like they Dennis Rodman🤣

[@risingphoenix1484]

LMFAO!!!!!! either Klay or Iggy gonna foul out trying to guard Jordan, secondly the perimeter defense of Jordan, Pippen, Harper all are taller, bigger, stronger, and better defenders than Steph, Klay and Iggy..... and all they can all score. Who is Steph guarding? Steph is gonna get exposed quickly. then there is Toni Kukoc and Dennis Rodman Toni covers Draymond and Toni pulls Draymond away from the basket because of his 3 point ability and his length and ball handling is a major problem and you put Dennis Rodman on KD and KD has a problem. if you think the NBAs greatest rebounder and defender who locked up Shaq at 350lbs can't guard 190lbs KD you are beyond delusional.

[@jordangoat2654]

@@risingphoenix1484 100%

[@Kbtrey4]

@@risingphoenix1484 warriors in 6

[@risingphoenix1484]

@@Kbtrey4 More like the Bulls in 5.... you do realize the bulls had 4 players that shot over 40% from 3 that year right....? and the warriors had 2..... and oh yeah Jordan shot 43% from 3 that year....lol

[@Kbtrey4]

@@risingphoenix1484 warriors in 6 that stat doesn’t meant anything bc i know they took way less attempts so no 🥱

[@tomzd99]

It's funny how people don't even remember to talk about the Warriors defence. Like they've been one of the best defensive team even with that awesome. Klay and Curry will wear out the Bulls running around screens.

[@hithere99100]

Bulls small line up is Jordan, pippen, Harper, rodman and Kukoc they just switching.

[@ankurkool171]

Warriors are gonna left shooting 3s but they ain’t posting in the paint against Rodman or pippen lol and no matter its curry or klay or kd they aint built like this that it’s gonna be swish everyime. Curry choked to good defenders multiple times we saw his stat line going 3-10 against Caruso lol so I’ll take my chances on bulls.

[@Ninjersey1]

Warriors with KD lost 2 games to Lou Williams and the clippers lol bulls easy 4-2 series

[@Ninjersey1]

Also harden and CP3 took KD warriors to 7 games and overtime lol bulls destroying them

[@nicholaswhite6419]

22 ppl who don’t know basketball 😂😂😂

[@yusuf8938]

Nick was at his absolute SQUEAKY-ist in this segment lol. Sounded almost like a cartoon character. 😂 3:30

[@aaronkzed11]

Remind me of that kid from that movie hook

[@ericdupree8603]

Broussard Jordan and the Bulls never went 7 games in 1996, true. But the same can be said for the 2017 Warriors who weren't even pushed 6 games.

[@jz8377]

The 2017 warriors only lost one game in the playoffs

[@toastylyfe]

Underrated comment

[@FriedDoggy]

The 2017 warriors literally went on a 15 game winstreak in the playoffs.

[@trellmix1970]

Bulls first championship only went 5 games.

[@FriedDoggy]

@@trellmix1970 the 2017 warriors finals also went 5 games and? 🤷‍♂️

[@madballer101]

If MJ could lock up Steph... then why didn't he lock up Isiah Thomas? Rookie Allen Iverson? Reggie Miller? Why couldn't he lock up those guys, but we are supposed to assume he could lock up Steph who is better than all of them???

[@guilhermevieira6010]

He did lock up isiah. He didn't lock up allen iverson and reggie miller because they didn't face each other in the playoffs. Don't talk about stuff you don't know.

[@Coachjay778]

@@guilhermevieira6010 lol he did play Reggie Miller in the playoffs what are you talking about , it went 7 games in ‘98

[@guilhermevieira6010]

@@Coachjay778 in 98 jordan was not in his prime genius

[@aceventura2353]

@@guilhermevieira6010 Locked him up so much that Isiah won 12 and Michael 10 against eachother?

[@guilhermevieira6010]

@@aceventura2353 what happened the last time they faced each other?

[@ycg2162]

Bro....what Chris said about the Bulls guarding 3 point shooters in the 96 season vs Shaq and Penny.....those shooters were never and are not even close to the shooters Kd is.....much less Steph and Klay

[@henderickmitchell6941]

Mark Price, Reggie Miller and Chris Mullin certainly were shooter and were great scorers in a defensive league. Miller was 6ft 7in and would've put up massive numbers. So don't know you mean about MJ not dealing with perimeter threats.

[@jahleelx9270]

@@henderickmitchell6941 bruh he never did guard anything like the warriors. U wanna see the closest thing to Jordan and the warriors. Watch what mahmoud abdul rauf did to the bulls during the 72-10 season in 1996. Nuggets vs bulls.

[@henderickmitchell6941]

@@jahleelx9270 so he didn't guard Reggie Miller, Mitch Richmond and Joe Dumars who were perennial all stars and great 3 point shooters. Either you have a short memory or a short life.

[@jahleelx9270]

@@henderickmitchell6941 the warriors had kd, steph and klay on the same team. When did he guard anything like that?

[@user-ow1tx3cq8o]

@@jahleelx9270 forget who Jordan DPOY guarded … the Warriors never faced anybody like Jordan

[@moeq8549]

The greatest exchange I've ever watched on youtube. Love this show.

[@kppowell6157]

Jordan is my goat but there is no way the bulls beat the 2017 warriors. They didn’t even play during the regular season. Then playoffs came and they STOMPED. The bulls get 2 games but you can’t lock up Kd. Steph will fold, but you have to respect him every time he gets the ball, then you got klay and iggy who can both shoot and defend. Jordan would avg 31-5-7 but they gonna lose

[@shrey9699]

Right lmao nobody can guard that level of shooting with the ball movement that they have

[@guilhermevieira6010]

The rockets took them 7 games with an injuried cp3, stop it.

[@risingphoenix1484]

LMFAO!!!!!! either Klay or Iggy gonna foul out trying to guard Jordan, secondly the perimeter defense of Jordan, Pippen, Harper all are taller, bigger, stronger, and better defenders than Steph, Klay and Iggy..... and all they can all score. Who is Steph guarding? Steph is gonna get exposed quickly. then there is Toni Kukoc and Dennis Rodman Toni covers Draymond and Toni pulls Draymond away from the basket because of his 3 point ability and his length and ball handling is a major problem and you put Dennis Rodman on KD and KD has a problem. if you think the NBAs greatest rebounder and defender who locked up Shaq at 350lbs can't guard 190lbs KD you are beyond delusional.

[@risingphoenix1484]

@@shrey9699 Lmfao.... you do realize that the ball movement came from the triangle offense that wait for it..... Steve Kerr learned from who? The greatest coach in NBA history, Phil Jackson.... checkmate.

[@cosmic4960]

Broussard actually said Jordan could guard Steph. What stupidity. Jordan couldn't guard any point guards in his own era. Stoudamire dropped 35 on Jordan. Iverson embarrassed Jordan. The nostalgia is just stupid at this point

[@mathiask5446]

Imagine comparing The Orlando magic of the 90s to the 2017 GSW, what is Chris on???

[@camdonking1919]

Idk what tf he was talking about 🤣

[@mikebishop6707]

in all seriousness, did you even see the Penny/Shaq Magic teams or are you basing it off highlights? I'm asking because all the young kids think they know NBA history, but come up looking absolutely clueless

[@cHEdDaRdaB3ST]

Wild how the current bulls are first in the east conference while one mention of the 96 bulls gets more coverage smh

[@georgekennedy9088]

the 2017 warriors would win this series in 5 or 6. chris saying the bulls never went 7 games in the finals....yeah and? the warriors beat the cavs in 5 who had lebron and kyrie putting up 35 every night!

[@risingphoenix1484]

Actually they didn't and the Cavs team couldn't defend.... when healthy they also beat the Cavs.

[@FreshmanFrenzy]

@@risingphoenix1484 Jordan had the best help in nba history. Overrated.

[@jtremaine23]

@@FreshmanFrenzy MJ had the same help in 1990 that he had in 1991. Why didn't the Bulls win in 1990 then? I would say Bill Russell possibly played with more HOF-ers (& most at the same time) than anybody---Cousy, Heinsohn, S. Jones, KC Jones, Sanders, Havlicek, etc.

[@scoop2448]

@@FreshmanFrenzy Lol MJ never had more than 1 other all star on his team. Lbj had 2 all stars for 7 years.

[@scoop2448]

@@jtremaine23 B/c Pippen had a migraine in game 7 and scored 2 pts.

[@JordanJacksonTyson]

I love and respect that 96 Bulls squad, but I actually think that the early 90s Bulls teams, especially in '91 and '92 would be a better matchup with the 2017 Warriors. The Bulls were so athletic then. You still had Pippen and Jordan on the perimeter. You had BJ Armstrong, John Paxon, and Craig Hodges (won a 3-point shooting contest) shooting jumpers. And you had a very strong defensive and rebounding presence in Horace Grant. Their transition game was beautiful to watch.

[@caprice3509]

Naw you need Rodman out there but I do agree all them Bulls teams was good

[@HeeyOk]

CB Always going all out for Mj 😩. I’ll take the Warriors though 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@risingphoenix1484]

The Bulls win.... why best line up vs best line up... the Bulls have the better defenders.... Jordan Pippen Harper (greatest perimeter defense of all time) vs Steph, Klay, Andre (not bad but stef would get exposed quickly) Toni Kukcoc (solid defender not great but makes it up with 3 point shooting) vs Durant (Durant wins this battle) K Dennis Rodman (Greatest rebounder and defender of all time, who is gonna stop him from getting boards) vs Draymond (Rodman wins this battle) .... Oh yeah, Bulls bigger and stronger at every position. Defense wins championships.

[@Wargee4978]

Is it the warrior team that Kawhi single handle destroyed before the dirty play?

[@cosmic4960]

Frfr. He even tried to act like Gary Payton didn't make Jordan look normal. I watched the series when it happened, if Seattle put Payton on Jordan the entire series, Bulls lose

[@risingphoenix1484]

@@cosmic4960 lmfao... they were up 3-0 the series was over the bulls wasn't even trying that hard until it was 3-2 then what happen.... good night....

[@cosmic4960]

@@risingphoenix1484 you clearly didn't read my comment. When Payton guarded Jordan, Jordan struggled. It's just a fact and it's ok to admit it, I won't tell the other Jordanettes on you. But ok, Jordan won every game, made every shot, and nobody scored on him. Now, I've told you what you want to hear, good night

[@Gregdagawd32]

This argument is crazy. KD, Klay and Steph would destroy this old school teams. There has never been a better or more efficient team then those warriors

[@rakshanpurandhar7446]

If the brooklyn nets played good enough defense, then offensively atleast the nets would be the greatest team In history cuz they have arguably 3 of the top 10 scorers of all time.

[@omonray2010]

@@rakshanpurandhar7446 yah but they don’t have defense. The warriors were great on defense

[@matteoughetti1320]

@@rakshanpurandhar7446 nah Klay is a better 3 option than Kyrie because he’s a great defender and play really good off the ball, and you add Iguodala and Dreymond playing incredible defense.

[@scoop2448]

Not with old school rules. KD and curry are soft and would get thrown around.

[@matteoughetti1320]

@@scoop2448 with old rules they obviously would play different and for sure it’s more close game and the bulls can maybe win, with today rules there is no game. And honestly Kd is 7 feet tall. Nobody stop him even with old rules.

[@russelturner5771]

I will always take superior defense over great offense every time. Defense generates offense but If your offense is sputtering it could be problematic.

[@yetundeadeyemi2436]

But both teams are all time great defense whilst gsw was second all time in offensive rating

[@yetundeadeyemi2436]

You guys act like the bull have great perimeter defender to guard Steph, kd and klay when they haven't faced a team like that ever, they are comparing the bulls three point shooting to the gsw three point shooting acting like it's close

[@russelturner5771]

@@yetundeadeyemi2436 Considering the fact that defense in this era is practically nonexistent compared to the Bulls era. It's safe to say the GSW have never faced defensive pressure such as what the Bulls would bring to the table.

[@yetundeadeyemi2436]

@@russelturner5771 good point

[@yetundeadeyemi2436]

But gsw defensive strategies are more advanced than the bulls defensive strategies as help defensive and double teams weren't allowed also the offensive skills such as ball handling has advanced

[@Zester141]

One of the best segments in a while.

[@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24]

The had the highest offense in the history of the league at that point and had the number one defense. Three guys had 20+ two had 30+ ….

[@kdbmore]

Who is going to stop MJ?

[@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24]

@@kdbmore Lebron averaged 35+ against the warriors and we see how those finals went…

[@brown123487]

​@@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24lebron average 29, kyrie average 28

[@sportstalkonly1442]

​@@brown123487lebron averaged 33 in 2017, 34 in 2018 vs the kd warriors. Averaged 35 vs the warriors in 2015. Yea he averaged 29 vs the warriors without kd but he led both teams and all players in everything.

[@KewaldeepSingh-kf1tf]

8:47 im a pass out was so hilarious 😂

[@THEjustincredible]

Atp I’m surprised Broussard and Wilds didn’t add Jordan beat the monstars into their debate 😂😂😂 they must get fined every time they go against Jordan

[@7odizzle78]

I think Broussard on Jordan payroll he gotta be cuz this was embarrassing

[@one0onelion248]

@@7odizzle78 you're only hating cause you love LeBron lol

[@juyahmad]

@@one0onelion248 are you that obsessed with Lebron? This conversation literally has nothing to do with him

[@one0onelion248]

@@juyahmad what? Clearly the implication is there and the entire comment section is bringing it up. Read the comments, it's about Nick Wright and LeBron. I know you're slow but you'll figure it out. Unbelievably slow. I actually feel bad for you

[@juyahmad]

@@one0onelion248 nobody brought up Lebron in this reply section, only you and that’s literally my problem with you type of people. The conversation could literally be about zion Williamson and you and others will find a way to bring up Lebron

[@DRGOAT999]

How is this a argument. That 2017 team is unbeatable. Players are more skilled now. That's just evolution. They would sweep them. Doesn't mean the 2017 is greater than the bulls, cause that's not the argument. The 2017 warriors are just better.

[@boricuafrican1]

unbeatable after they were down 18 to the Spurs and then took out Kawhi's ankle.

[@guilhermevieira6010]

Bulls got the best player, best coach, best defense, better rebounding... but sure the warriors would win somehow lol

[@kidcuidi1]

@@guilhermevieira6010 best coach who had the greatest players ever on his team.

[@guilhermevieira6010]

@@kidcuidi1 he had the best players because he was the best coach

[@Mercurial.]

Skilled what bec they it's a pissing 3 point contest with lame poor defense in the 🧁 leauge. U must be straight dumb that doesn't know what FUNDAMENTALS mean that this generation lacks so much of it's such a disgrace 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@MrMikesmith20]

You can't compare them. The 2 eras are SO different. The rules were completely different with hand checking and Defensive 3 seconds.

[@DANGERProductions2020]

I think the ‘96 Bulls would have a pretty good shot at beating the Warriors considering the Rockets nearly did beat them in 2018 (and probably would have beaten them had CP3 not gotten injured). And that Rockets team was worse than the Bulls in pretty much every facet of the game.

[@glenn8886]

18 Warriors' depth is much worse than 17 Warriors', 17 Warriors' depth is elite as well.

[@DANGERProductions2020]

That’s not true. Everyone who gave them material minutes in the 2017 playoffs was also on their 2018 playoff roster, other than Ian Clark. Plus they added Looney, Young, Cook and Bell. If anything, they were deeper in 2018.

[@newrecruit100]

@@DANGERProductions2020 That 17’ team was better lol. That 18’ had to grind. The 17’ flat out dominated.

[@danielkim672]

THe team itself was already cracking between KD and the other players. That 2018 Dubs team was not as good last the 2017 one. Less trust.

[@scoop2448]

@@newrecruit100 2017 dominated b/c they beat 8 seed, 5 seed and no kawhi in WCF. Curry also had injuries in 2018 - missed 30 games and 6 games in playoffs

[@coreyhumphrey2183]

Don’t forget Randy Brown, 2017 warriors were aided by a Kawhi injury

[@Adam-zy9fv]

it was game 1, you cant assume that the warriors were just going to lose that entire series because they were losing in the 3rd quarter of game 1

[@mauricewells7838]

@@Adam-zy9fv not losing, getting blown out

[@Adam-zy9fv]

@@mauricewells7838 but not getting blown out enough to where the game was out of reach, because they came back to win lol. Like I said, even if the spurs would’ve won that game with kawhi you can’t just assume they would’ve won the whole series

[@lifeofazero]

96 Bulls had a three peat under their belt, had the best duo ever, had the best rebounder ever, had the best offense & defense in the league, had the 6th man of the year, had the best coach ever, and actually completed their dominance of having the best combined wins in regular season and playoffs in nba history. And that’s not counting having Kerr & Harper on the roster 🤷🏽 Bulls in 5

[@kazsomeno2598]

The warriors almost three peat if it werent for kd and klay thompson injury

[@dercrysisbz2049]

Warriors in 4

[@mindurbiznez651]

Broussard hit it right on head 💯

[@EastsideLegend1]

Rodman would give Durant fits and Jordan or Pippen would give curry fits too. I got the bulls

[@seangermano1563]

Look at Kd against the smoothing defense of Boston and the evidence builds that it might not be pretty against the 3 greatest perimeter defenders of all time. Almost nobody plays defense today, I think the bulls using a full court press, which they where know for, would reck havic imho.

[@knieban]

Seems like Nick Wright always ignores defense. Sure, GSW has a more potent offense than Bulls, but Bulls were also top defenders. Like you said, teams nowadays do not play defense, but teams that do and have the size have given GSW a hard time. Bulls would be a whole another level with an efficient offense on top.

[@camdonking1919]

You can't do that to KD with Steph on the floor. That's what made them so dangerous. Steph gets that smothering attention

[@camdonking1919]

@@knieban GS was a top 5 defense that year.

[@ulyssescasio9939]

You don't mean MJ will chase Steph all over the court and fight through multiple screens and expect him to score 40 pts? LOL.

[@JTRAP1000]

We need to stop Romantasising the 1996 Bulls. They were great, one of the Greatest, but the 2017 Warriors is the greatest collection of talent and the most cohesive unit the NBA has ever seen.

[@jahleelx9270]

Exactly. It really ain't even close tbh

[@Hinshu85]

Talent means 0. You have OKC's 2012. You have Miami 2011. You have Miami 2014. Lakers 04 and so on.

[@jahleelx9270]

@@Hinshu85 talent means everything. 2017 warriors ain't those teams. As we can see by the result.

[@JTRAP1000]

@@Hinshu85 You say "Talent means 0", but you literally mentioned 4 teams in the last 20 plus years of the NBA. It is rare for the most talented teams to lose. I have no hate what so ever for the Bulls. I lived and loved the Bulls dynasty. They further built upon the legacy of the 80s. The Warriors are just the better team, no bias on my end/ I have no dog in the fight.

[@jahleelx9270]

@@JTRAP1000 true story. I didn't get to witness the greatness of the bulls necessarily. I imagine they were a complete terror on the defensive end tho and schematically. But I don't think there has ever been a more unfair team than the warriors with kd.

[@joeldriver3971]

The current era of fans who didn't watch those Bulls teams just don't really understand how great they were. Not only did they have the greatest player of all time in MJ they were just incredible on defense. MJ, Pippen and Rodman were 3 of the best 10 defenders in the NBA and Ron Harper also was long and a great defender. They would flood the 3 point line with defenders and force the Warriors to shoot midrange shots and it just wouldn't be a series. That Warriors team was completely dependent on 3 pt. shooting. You take that away and they're nothing.

[@Timely864]

No the problem is the teams they were going against are not as good historically as the older generation makes them. Like those Knicks teams was not that good lol I have league pass I watched with my own eyes. The Trailblazers in the Finals lol they were ok the best at the time but Kd compared to Clyde Drexler this a new animal today.

[@nbasubthai5131]

Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc and Harper. That’s all they needed to win 72 games is astonishing. The Warriors were also amazing. I don’t know who would actually win a 7 game series, but it would be close.

[@chriswalls5831]

Also rodman missed few games during that 96 season pippen, mj, kukoc, Kerr, Harper, longley, rodman, I got bulls but also got Kobe's 2001 Lakers and Steve Kerr said bulls would beat warriors.

[@felipepineda1585]

@Chris Walls - not to mention they benched mj and Pippin in 2 of their final teams. If not they may have gone 74-8

[@sleepymaldonado9559]

It's a known fact 96Bulls are the best team to ever play the game...not to mention. Statistically in the history of basketball offense defence. 87-13 regular season plus playoffs combined. The best record of all time reg season n playoffs combined its nvr been done not to mention records don't mean a thing if you don't win the ring and we did. BULLS IN 5 EASILY

[@livelifels2726]

Nick really thinks the warriors are beating that bulls team 🤣🤣 that’s cute

[@nicktoth7051]

“Oh I’m gonna pass out” 😂😂😭😭😭

[@420skubi]

Lol honestly man Nick won me over in this one.he win this debate imo.

[@user-ow1tx3cq8o]

He’s screams like a kid who’s had his juice bottle taken away from him.

[@420skubi]

@@user-ow1tx3cq8o lmfao....... unfortunately you're correct.

[@litany21]

Ha!

[@y-sin3111]

Each team’s style of play is a product of their era. In the current can’t-touch-me-defense era, Jordan would score 100 pts/game by himself. And has enough shooters around him if he gets doubled. In the past bad-boys-defense era, Curry or KD would get murdered within the first 2 minutes cos they’re just not that tough. Either way Bulls win. Not easily, but they still win.

[@matteoughetti1320]

Yes, Harper, Roadman and Longley… incredible shooter… kd is a 7 feet guy with the skilled of a point guard. Kd in Jordan era put 50 fifty on everybody simply by shooting over everybody

[@MrSlashblade]

Well Reggie Miller, George Gervin, Grant Hill, Kevin McHale, post 85 Kareem, man STEPHS OWN FATHER. All of them were fine in the 80s and 90s. And none of them are built like Arnold. You got to stop hyping an era where the average small forward is built like Durant anyway. Curry and KD in that era of iso play would destroy every single defense they saw.

[@soulzy3596]

@@MrSlashblade 6months later but especially kd , he would absolutely water them fools . A jab step into a middy . Jordan dominated the mid range but somehow a 7ft and better shooter kd with a deeper bag wouldn’t

[@drakevick1646]

Nick absolutely COOKED this segment. He not only called out the problems with the counterarguments, but made a very simple and digestible argument for his case. Nick got it, bruh

[@chrisdavis1945]

Warriors NEVER faced a number 1 offense and DEFENSE(96 Bulls). Bulls would beat the Warriors.

[@bingoelue12]

Wow. That's such a great argument to why the Bulls were better than the Warriors. Surely they have somebody to guard KD, run around screens to guard Klay and Steph amd surely 2 is greater than 3

[@cooljohn6961]

We love MJ and the Bulls in 1996 but the Warriors in 2017 would have beat that team.

[@jamtv3258]

Gotta love how the James Harden led Rockets took the Warriors 7 games and were possibly a CP3 injury from winning the series but somehow Nick thinks the 96 Bulls don’t stand a chance. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@hyhxoxo___5330]

Kd was injured

[@sportstalkonly1442]

Style of play. Rockets were literally designed to beat the warriors with switching, 3 point shooting and defense. They had multiple guys that could hit 3s and defend. Bulls had defense. That's about it.

[@70daya]

MJ: who’s guarding me? Steph : Klay MJ : 50! Bulls win series 4-1

[@thetrib1]

More like ....Steph: Iggy MJ: 40! On less efficiency KD: But who's guarding me? MJ: Scottie KD: 35! On normal efficiency Bulls lose in 5 due to lack of talent compared to the 2017 warriors

[@metaviewx2091]

@@thetrib1 Please.

[@lanceerwinquiles3777]

The bulls offense is simple MJ .. but those around him are deadly in their respective positions .. centers that has mid range .. so when triangle moves how they would stop it .. and true bulls defense would be the focal point on how gsw would lose

[@siyabongakunene5052]

So many dynamics to consider here. The Warriors on paper have better players. The Bulls on the other hand had a better team. They turned up when it mattered. In a 7 game series with a Championship on the line we all know what MJ could do. The '17 Warriors are definitely a big headache for any team but if there's one team in history who could figure them out it would be the Bulls. I don't know if it boils down to luck, tact, destiny but those guys knew how to win.

[@user-gi7ec6ss7t]

Yeah right lmao

[@milan2cu]

Everything you just mentioned including superior state of mind and superior coaching under Phil Jackson.

[@activatebpm]

I love playing the "What if" game..... IF the 2004 Pistons had drafted Chris Bosh instead of Darko, they would be in this discussion. I know Bosh was a rookie that year, but he fit their overall team excellently. Tall, long, fast, could shoot, pass, defend, run the floor, rebound, etc. Pistons may have 3-peated or even 4-peated if they had taken Bosh over Darko. Just my opinion.

[@SuperWizzle85]

Rip Hamilton said they were pose to draft Melo I watched him in a podcast interview with Matt and Stak on all the smoke.. then Melo followed up that story and said it’s true Detroit told him they were gonna pick him but instead went for ol boy

[@georgebowman1060]

Bulls had a 18 game winning streak during that 95-96 season.

[@FriedDoggy]

And the 2017 warriors went a 15 win streak in the playoffs, this is a completely redundant point.

[@nanamccoy7463]

Warriors once had 24-0 run

[@bravobessa3684]

And rhose teams were not the best...

[@Sole650]

No one cares. Warriors in 6

[@kangaroo3223]

The problem is who will guard Jordan???

[@pg8036]

😂😂 Nick (high pitch voice): This is outrageous

[@riverofcustard5027]

You can't say "Steph's Warriors" when KD was the best player on the team

[@mindyourbuisness8104]

Ya you can when KD joined them and can't get it done anywhere else

[@joekolpe9849]

You can only if you won a ring before kd

[@joekolpe9849]

@@mindyourbuisness8104 of lebron can't get it done with westbrook. Kd could never. He has a excuse why he didn't win in okc

[@TK-ev]

Yes you can lmao everyone knew it was Steph's team. KD could go off and they might lose but if Steph lights up the game was probably a 25 point blowout

[@antonquirgst2812]

@@joekolpe9849 steph DID win a ring before KD

[@georgebowman1060]

The Bulls dominated their era. Warriors haven't dominated their era in a 10 year span like Chicago. Jordon probably would have had 8 rings if not for 2 years off in between those 2 three peats.

[@CriusXI]

We’re only talking about both teams in that specific year, not throughout several years buddy.

[@jahleelx9270]

Jordan would have 6 rings. Not 8.

[@starwarsnaomi]

Nick never mentioned that the bulls were up 3 and 0 in the finals in 96

[@your_royal_highness]

Which rules? 90’s refereeing or 2010’s? One thing I think so many people admire the Bulls teams is that Jordan never bailed to go create super team. He stuck with the program and stayed loyal.

[@edwarddavid-bermudez4553]

The Bulls were already the best team in the league. Why would he ever bail-he had everything he ever needed.

[@your_royal_highness]

@@edwarddavid-bermudez4553 They coulda used a top notch center (e.g. Ewing). By bailing, I mean he could have given up on Krause et al and jumped in ‘99. I do not know how long contracts lasted in those days but certainly by 88-89, coming close was not good enough. Different era. He stayed loyal to the team and city. Again, that is another reason he is held in such high regard to this day, I think.

[@juper5052]

I understand Jordan dominated the game but Steph Curry got rid of a position in the game and change how everyone played for 4 years. you really going to take Pippin over KD at his prime

[@Ninjersey1]

Curry isn’t as good in the playoffs lol delevedova gave curry problems imagine Ron Harper and Jordan 😂

[@alvinjohnson1979]

@@Ninjersey1 exactly

[@bobbyalistor]

@@Ninjersey1 dellly didnt give Steph problem when they have Steph, Kd, Klay on the floor

[@AndYouAre]

@@Ninjersey1 Curry isn't as good in the playoffs?? Ask Lillard, Harden, Westbrook, Paul, the Jazz, Nuggets, and Spurs about that.

[@114D]

@@AndYouAre we can ask his stats and crucial game moments. Also, we are talking about the Finals where Curry historically chokes.

[@albertdeguia1436]

Love it when Nick wrong gets agitated lmao!!!😂😅😂😂

[@spandanchatterjee7295]

Did everyone in this show forget kaly existed in the warriors one of the top 4 shooter of all time plus a great 2 way player who used to constantly guard the best guards 😂😂

[@menacegaming7278]

match up with JOrdan? for sure he will vanish. Klay will get surprised how strong Jordan in the post and will get tired guarding him. He will get fouled out trying to block the fade away over and over again.

[@perryellis9645]

Problem with that is that he did that in a GS system with the greatest shooter in history. Klay gets way more hype then he deserves. He cant create his own shot and with the defensive ability of the bulls, even switching would not make it easier for him to get his shot off.

[@donmoore5340]

Nahh didn't I see harden and cp3 up 3-2 on them before Paul pulled his hamstring no way they beating bulls

[@Pentruks]

wrong year buddy

[@donmoore5340]

@@Pentruks essentially the same team. Curry, Durant,klay, Draymond,Iggy

[@terrencealexander6811]

Nick made a great agreement! And “is Kerr playing or coaching….? “ lol

[@rc....]

Warriors play team offence, different styles, can't compare the two teams, sadly this is a futile debate even if most will take Jordan over any team.

[@CG-vn8iy]

The Bulls didn't?

[@mightymikeamps9317]

96 Chicago would humiliate the 2017 GSW under either rules. They would literally suffocate them on Defense, and you aren’t stopping them on offense. They would laugh at GSW defense.

[@jimapplebee5322]

Exactly. If Steph was guarding Harper, Harper would back him down in the paint & either score over him or draw fouls on Steph. Nobody's stopping MJ & Pippen would wear down KD by making him play D.

[@nbastalgiacritic1751]

I’m sure the 2017 cavs thought the same thing you did and look what happened.

[@jimapplebee5322]

@@nbastalgiacritic1751 Comparing the 2017 Cavs to the greatest team in NBA history? Wow, that's hilarious.

[@nbastalgiacritic1751]

@@jimapplebee5322 yea. You have kyrie>Harper jordan >smith lebron >pippen Kevin love > Rodman and Thompson > = longley. Cavs have more offense. Sorry but teams get better over time.

[@intellectuallysuperior92]

If a James Harden Houston led team can take GSW to a 7 game series, imagine what a Bulls led team with Jordan would do to them 😂

[@dominicharris5489]

if the bulls can have a tough time vs gary payton and shawn kemp, and an old karl malone and stockton, imagine wtf the kd warriors will do to them KML

[@seanlowry6014]

The bulls would be flabbergasted seeing the way the warriors shoot... packing the paint wouldn't be so effective with three of the best shooters ever on one team

[@Cakebattered]

The 3 point line in 1996 was 22' back, vs 23' today.

[@danielshirley1772]

Warriors take this series. Rodman couldn’t stop KD and Jordan can guard one of the splash bros but whichever one he isn’t guarding the Bulls would’ve had no answer for. That’s KD and one splash bro at least going off scoring wise. Then defensively the Warriors were good enough to keep switching on Jordan between Klay, Draymond and Iggy. The Warriors could slow down the Bulls enough compared to the Bulls would have no answer for KD and the splash bro that Jordan isn’t guarding

[@risingphoenix1484]

Who on the Warriors is stopping Jordan guarantee Jordan gonna force Klay or Iggy to foul out...... and you do realize Ron Haper and Scottie Pippen are all time defenders, right.... Who is Steph guarding, Pippen, Jordan, Rodman, Kukoc, Harper.... the Bulls are all longer and all better than the Warriors defensively individually and collectively..... the Bulls are a better rebounding team = second pt opportunities... and who is more clutch than Jordan...? KD, Btw if Rodman can stop Shaq he can stop KD.....

[@leonanthony683]

The annoying part is that whenever Michael Jordans name come up people picks him instead of giving it real thought

[@corybrown4140]

Jordan never missed as many shots as steph in a season because all of his shots was closer to the basket which was more efficient

[@corybrown4140]

Not even and it's really not a conversation between the 2 when MJ way better..

[@allymacky4039]

@@corybrown4140 but 3 is more than 2 buddy. 37% on threes is the same as 50% on twos

[@corybrown4140]

3 is more than 2 but MJ was still a more dominant player and never had bad streaks like steph..if he's not making 3s he's not scoring and that's a problem

[@corybrown4140]

@Stefan Vujadinović he was was unguardable anyway and not the point guard..Stephanie good but not MJ good but who is

[@user-oe4wr9tn2n]

@@corybrown4140 MJ was a better player, but Steph is a better scorer and a better offensive player. Steph is far more efficient tan Jordan, 63% TS vs 57%ts, and is not. the main ball handler of the team, which means his scoring is far more organic. NOt to mention that STeph played less minutes(7 minutes less in the playoffs) to be precise. If Steph touched the ball as much as jordan, played the same minutes, he would be far better than jordan on offense, however he cant be better because JOrdan had a storybook career, and was far better on defense.

[@ThePoker215]

Jordans the goat but no, 2017 warriors best team ever.

[@ike.o6944]

Jordan definitely not the goat but you’re right… Warriors with KD washing that Bulls squad… but everyone entitled to their opinion.

[@risingphoenix1484]

The Bulls win.... why best line up vs best line up... the Bulls have the better defenders.... Jordan Pippen Harper (greatest perimeter defense of all time) vs Steph, Klay, Andre (not bad but stef would get exposed quickly) Toni Kukcoc (solid defender not great but makes it up with 3 point shooting) vs Durant (Durant wins this battle) K Dennis Rodman (Greatest rebounder and defender of all time, who is gonna stop him from getting boards) vs Draymond (Rodman wins this battle) .... Oh yeah, Bulls bigger and stronger at every position. Defense wins championships.

[@antibrotha]

You mean the same team that was on the ropes by the spurs before Zaza pa cheapshot took KL

[@nextgenartisanslimited1674]

I really feel like putting my hands through this screen and slapping Chris broussad 😐

[@Mysterio-Solar]

Look folks , ITAFJ ? AYFKM ? the 2015 - 2019 Warriors would beat the 91 - 93 / 96 - 98 Bulls rather easily in the Finals . For one thing the 2015 - 2019 Warriors are not the 90s one trick Pick N Roll pony Lakers , Blazers , Suns , Sonics , or Jazz . Those teams couldn't hurt another team with constant 3s or Lockdown defense like the 2015 - 2019 Warriors could . Those Western Conference 90s Finals teams had one or two Stars , and mostly role players . None of those teams had more than 2 All Stars on them . Those teams didn't have 4 All Stars , or weren't 3 ball Sharp shooters nailing 40 percent or more like the Warriors had . People don't realize the 96 - 98 Bulls were some of the worst Shooting efficiency NBA Champs ever . That's because the level of Opponents' Defensive Rebounding in the Finals was terrible . The Bulls got more second and third shots because of it . The 2015 - 2019 Warriors wouldn't give the Bulls that chance .The 2015 - 2019 Warriors ran 5 different offenses .They were an ELITE Defense that could switch every position defensively and play position less Basketball . All 5 positions could hit a jump shot or 3 ball consistantly well for the Warriors in those seasons . The Bulls didn't have the personel to defend that much shooting versatility . Then there's just common sense . What Bull is Guarding the Splash Bros , or KD ? Who is guarding Iguadala on the Bulls Second Unit ? There's no way Jordan , Pippen , or Harper are chasing the Splash Bros and KD defensively for an entire 7 Game Series . KD would jump over any Bull Player , nailing shots at will from anywhere in the Half court . The Western Conference Champ teams I've mentioned in the 90s that the Bulls faced in the Finals didn't have multi talented shooting Scoring Generational talent like Steph / Klay / Andre / KD types . Rodman and his mind game taunting antics would foul out fast trying to Guard KD . Curry would dribble circles around Jordan , Pippen , Harper , Rodman , or Longley .

[@alanchristie368]

The moment Steph is on a non threat they become a threat!

[@mazudaq4090]

Simply put "Defense wins championships" - Bear Bryant

[@theprocessss]

This shouldn’t be a convo at all. Jordan wasn’t that good compared to KD. His legacy is greater yea but skill wise KD is better. Let alone KD also has Steph and Klay. Dubs in 5-6. It won’t go 7

[@terryphelps24]

Jordan wasn’t that good lmaoo 🤣🤣

[@danielkim672]

LOL. You can argue KD has more talent that Jordan, but Jordan was clearly the better NBA Player. Offense impact, a wash. Jordan CLEARLY the better defender and this is including KDs impact on the glass as I add rebounds to defense. Jordan clearly the tougher player. Jordan clearly the better winner. Almost everything else goes to JOrdan.

[@worldwide8218]

@@danielkim672 everything but the supporting cast.

[@theprocessss]

@@danielkim672 wrong. KD a better 3 shooter, he’s a better facilitator and has better handles. The fact that he’s near 7ft. would cause MJ problems. He couldn’t keep up w Magic who’s shorter and a way worse shooter than KD. MJ never played anyone like KD

[@danielkim672]

@@theprocessss You mean, the Magic who is one of the top 5 players in the history of the NBA? Yea, he is not easy to keep up with, just like any great player. You think KD has faced any player like MJ? You must not know much about basketball. KD a better facilitator? Okay buddy. That is why MJ has a career better assist rate. KD is 7 foot but only 1 rebound per game better than MJ. Yes KD is a better shooter including 3, but MJ IS A BETTER SCORER, if more efficient offensively. has BETTEr PER, BETTER Offensive Win Shares, Better Offensive offensive rating. MJ is the better offensive player in totality. MJ is the better defender. He is the better leader. THe better winner, the better closer. So you think MJ can not stay with KD? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Cmon kid

[@a.ojohnson5036]

Fact: Kevin Durant will do a much better Job at guarding Micheal Jordan than Micheal Jordan will do at guarding Kevin Durant.. 6’11 vs 6’6 ? Lol 😂

[@mouglas777]

For 1 its Michael Jordan. not micheal and neither are guarding 1 another.

[@a.ojohnson5036]

@@mouglas777 are you blind ? where do you see “micheal” in my comment you blind mug ?

[@MrSPIDEY21]

I just saw Jason Tatum shut down kd stop it

[@simplyballing1592]

Beautiful discussion