Chiefs underdogs vs. Bills: Can Mahomes pass Allen in MVP odds with a win? | FIRST THINGS FIRST

[@FirstThingsFirst]

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[@bigdongbob838]

Wright's "if the KFC Chefs go 17-0 Mahomes should be MVP" bit was hilarious. "I live to glaze Mahomes and I do tricks on it all night long" is not an argument. No, being a mediocre QB on the best team in the league does not earn you the MVP. On the other hand, MVP is just a popularity contest, like all such votes, so it's essentially meaningless. So maybe Mahomes should get it, lol.

[@Grievous_]

Is this all this show talks about now is just Nfl??? I mean seriously tho, why can’t yall talk about basketball for once, or talk about Mlb free agency, Nhl, the other football aka futbol, I mean this show is constantly Chiefs this, Chiefs that, give it a rest Nicholas, focus on something else for a change plzz, it’s all I ask

[@BryantThompson-w1j]

​@@bigdongbob838you don't know what to say do you look mahomes doesn't care about that meaningless award period.

[@midwesttraffikc271]

Make no mistake this is a mid season playoff game

[@BryantThompson-w1j]

Be careful what you wish for people who want a chiefs blowout victory well your about to get it this Sunday at Buffalo

[@sy12]

There is zero chance mahomes wins mvp if those stats don’t drastically improve. Especially when Nick himself says his team is a defense first team now.

[@larry2281]

@@sy12 but last year the entire ravens fanbase preached stats don’t matter if you’re the #1 seed I agree Mahomes shouldn’t be mvp but part of the reason was the nonsense from last year.

[@Bankroll98]

@@larry2281nobody had off the wall stats last year😂😂

[@jqwiiiiqqirmnsnnsnnsnnsmjjrj]

@@larry2281 The ravens were 2nd in scoring when Lamar played, that’s the difference.

[@shreddiekrueger359]

@@Bankroll98Allen did, he just threw picks which disqualified him in most people’s eyes. Over 4000 passing yards and 44 TDs. Much better numbers than Lamar that year.

[@Bankroll98]

@@shreddiekrueger359 Allen also went on a 5 game losing streak, barley made the playoffs

[@MrMenace3210]

If Mahomes had 24 TDs and 2 Ints, Nick you wouldn't be calling any of these other dudes "contenders" for MVP

[@kinglikaboss3129]

Yea bc he would still be undefeated jackAS

[@leobreed9563]

​@@kinglikaboss3129😂

[@ROCKBETHENAME]

@@kinglikaboss3129switch stats & records with Lamar he still would say mahomes in the MVP

[@teancummccarthy8419]

Tom brady didnt get mvps on good defensive but lackluster offensive patriots teams, why should we start giving mvps to mahomes?

[@jamesbridges6502]

Because to not do so would be disrespectful to Mahomes. And thats not allowed with Chiefs fans, who are remarkably sensitive for people on top of a mountain in the midst of a dynasty.

[@beedubbs2107]

Well, you see, it's a rich tapestry.

[@KlutchRecaps]

I'd be all for giving Mahomes the MVP if his numbers were at least top 5. But he's not. His defense is holding people under 20 points week in and week out. Mahomes can play bad in a game and they still win. That's not most valuable

[@swoldier8516]

Good point

[@stevenh3508]

He lost every offensive weapon he had minus Kelce and has 2 bad tackles - 9-0, 9th ranked offense, best 3rd down %, #1 rated 4th Qtr QB all with other teams scraps. Literally the definition of an MVP but I get it, it's not flashy and everyone is a hater.

[@simonradley7109]

Mahomes is equal 15th in total TD's amongst all QB's this season...15th! Trevor Lawrence & Aaron Rodgers both have MORE TD's & LESS INT's than Mahomes. Let that sink in. Lamar & Baker actually have DOUBLE the amount of TD's! Mahomes is also equal 4th in interceptions thrown. Mahomes 13TDs-9 INT, Jackson 26-2. I'm not a Lamar fan but Mahomes is not even close!

[@BradAdams-fu4qx]

Playing nobody teams .😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂Lamar and the rest don't hold a candle to Mahomes.rodgerssux..

[@Jayco351]

Josh Allen had 44 TDs last year... First QB ever 4 straight seasons over 40 combined.

[@Raven.Bloodrot]

whats that have to do with this game?

[@jeffreyruhland943]

and terrible when it matters.

[@pyrocl0]

That is a crazy stat. Did not know that. But Chiefs have turned into floating through regular season and dominat the playoffs. Look at how many articles and comments are calling Kelce washed. Allen is definitely SB caliper. And it could happen this year. But there could be a reason why KC always loses to the Bills and Bengals in the regular season.

[@Brandon-m6v6e]

Also had 17 picks

[@KillingWithaSmile613]

​@@jeffreyruhland943 your brain is terrible at all times it seems.

[@BuffaloMotivated]

“0 TD 2INT game”… how convenient they always leave out Josh’s Rushing TDs

[@robertschoelerman7496]

Bring up Josh's 2 int game mahomes was throwing ints every game for the first 2 months and it never got brought up

[@kingblicky635]

Doesn’t matter, neither one is one Lamar’s level. Yall arguing for 2nd place

[@BuffaloMotivated]

@@kingblicky635 hey man Lamar is looking good this year. Definitely his best year if you ask me.

[@frankgreco95]

​@@kingblicky635 I agree this season but devils advocate you can't be the league MVP if you don't win your division imo. Gotta pass the Steelers first then it's all Lamars unless Allen all of a sudden turns to 2020 form.

[@RageDaug]

We only count rushing stats for Lamar. Everyone knows they don't count for Josh Allen. Just ask Nick.

[@zType2]

"Bills scored a touchdown with 2 minutes to go" lmao funny how Nick leaves out Mahomes throwing an INT to lose the game.

[@coreyandnathanielchartier3749]

"WIDE RIGHT"

[@samuelgaona7196]

Doesn't really matter tho

[@RageDaug]

@@coreyandnathanielchartier3749 what's that, Tourette's? Mahomes throws an interception and you yell Wide Right?

[@Joseph-h7q]

You digging.....

[@JackRice007]

@@coreyandnathanielchartier3749 he’s talking about the game from two years ago, genius

[@KlutchRecaps]

I love how Nick cares about the MVP now that Mahomes is in the discussion lol just 3 weeks ago, Nick was telling us how the award doesn’t have much value. Now he’s clamoring for Mahomes to win MVP if he’s 17-0 even with mediocre numbers like he has now

[@Renegade-kf8fp]

Yall scared now?

[@williamd1891]

Lamar won it last year with mediocre numbers. We need to stop giving the MVP to the QB on the best team. CMC should have won it last year.

[@christianirizarry2491]

😅😅😅

[@youngboy3571]

He just wants to discredit Lamar

[@ScarredByTheNet]

@@williamd1891its not a numbers award

[@noahkramer942]

Mahomes playing okay with the best defense in football while Lamar playing incredible with the one of the worst defense in football. Is it not crystal clear who is more valuable

[@KlutchRecaps]

exactly. Idk why people can't understand this. If Mahomes has a poor game, HIS TEAM STILL WINS. That's not the case for some of these other guys. I'm a Bengals fan so I might be a bit biased but Burrow and Lamar have to play good games if their teams are going to win.

[@alimctaven7417]

Yeah the QB of the 2x SB winners.

[@stevenh3508]

Except lamar played okay with the best defense in football last year and they gave him the MVP despite Allen clearly being who should have gotten it.

[@Thebogeybro]

But lamar has another mvp on his team

[@z_xchhh]

@@stevenh3508Allen had over 20 TOs. Stop 😂

[@simonradley7109]

Mahomes shouldn't even be in the conversation for MVP.

[@franklinwhitsell2987]

Chiefs fan here and I agree totally this year. He's not looked like himself. I feel that he's not getting enough sleep with all the young children around him now.

[@deshamallah2265]

He had the same stats as Lamar with one int. And one incompletion by a toe that could’ve been a lost

[@nicholaswest3974]

@@franklinwhitsell2987 thank you an objective chiefs fan lol, he’s still him and no one is taking that from him but he’s got 12 tds and 9 interceptions, if loses one of those games he’s not even considered close to the MVP race

[@deshamallah2265]

And if we’re being honest 122 yds rushing means he outplayed Mahomes

[@Arctanis-vt3hl]

I wouldn't say that. He'd have to do a lot to get it, but his team is undefeated and he's made clutch plays at key moments of many games to win it. Like Bru said, his stats have to get better for him to have a shot. If they don't, then no, he shouldn't win regardless of record.

[@nothingspecial8114]

How many weeks in a row are they gonna have a segment asking are the chiefs being disrespected?

[@Warden033]

As many weeks as Nick's on the show

[@jwhitefreeze4187]

The discredit Josh Allen gets on this show is generational

[@jd229]

From everyone not just this show. Like manning had a hard time beating brady no one EVER called him overrated. Josh is the only other qb in the league with 4 straight division titles on his way to his 5th and with a playoff win 4 seasons straight. Yes mahomes is ahead of him but no one else is between them when it comes to playoffs

[@denagetz9894]

Lifetime Chiefs fan here….this is by far the most comprehensive chiefs team I’ve ever seen. Yes, they are undefeated but they are doing it together. Not just because of 1 or 2 players. Veach, has created the best mix of players we have had in many years. I pray we see them in the SB winning that 3 peat….but if not I’ve still never been so proud to be a loyal fan.

[@WeChoseHATE]

Thus chiefs version is more like pats it’s a team sport! They found ways to win-not lighten up anything but the end result is a Fcking W who cares? They played as a team!

[@stephenzajonc4766]

Mahomes is not playing like an MVP this year. Being the quarterback on a good team is not sufficient to be considered a favorite.

[@ForsakenWar]

Lamar won it that way last year...😂

[@stephenzajonc4766]

@ partially yes. But he had a better season than what Mahomes is doing by a mile. And, the other contenders for MVP last year really didn’t perform (Purdy didn’t finish strong, Hill fell off, Allen didn’t start well).

[@sprawlz6466]

Modern Mahomes = Trent Dilfer

[@kingnovi9404]

@@stephenzajonc4766cmac should have won. It’s not the best qb award.

[@BryantThompson-w1j]

​@@sprawlz6466really mahomes about to win three straight f-ing Superbowls your take is like your head a waste of space

[@goldenstatewarriors9418]

Neither Mahomes or Allen is MVP, Lamar is running away with it at the moment. If Allen plays well in a win, and Lamar plays poorly and loses against the Steelers, that might shift things a little. Mahomes has not played anywhere near MVP level this year.

[@1rdot2]

Allen probably should have won last year with much better stats than Lamar. So he might get a make award since the reverse is true this year. If they didn't just get give the awards to QBs CMC was the actual winner last year

[@Underwood_5]

Lamar threw 24 touchdowns last year and barely over 3500 yards. If Mahomes gets close to 30 touchdowns, and throws for over 4,000 yards he’s winning mvp by every metric they’ve used in past years. It should also be telling that he’s lost almost every offensive weapon and still been able to win games and keep it afloat through 9 games.

[@devinlee7088]

Dog cause of the defense lmao Patrick isn't mahomes esc this year 12tds 9ints that's at best mid

[@stobo7182]

​@@Underwood_5 add his rushing stats and Lamar played well in all the important games

[@Underwood_5]

@ rushing stats included Allen still outplayed him. More yards and more touchdowns.

[@Whoooo876]

Nick cares too much about being vegas under dogs VEGAS IS WRONG ALL THE TIME

[@casscastellano1902]

If he cares about it too much he would say the Bills will beat KC this weekend 😂

[@TheCephalon]

Then how does Vegas make money if they are always wrong

[@luisinncd]

you are right, Vegas makes money from bets. They have a reason for the betting payouts they give, using the Vegas favourites as a stat is quite idiotic

[@luisinncd]

@@TheCephalon It depends on the betting patterns people have. People root against dominant teams, and probable bet against them too much. Setting the bills as favorites probably covers the case when the bills win, they Will pay less money the greater amount of people Who bet for that case

[@bribay]

So I guess you're a billionaire, because you bet against Vegas all the time

[@Jerid58]

We all know these are practice games for the Chiefs. Nothing else matters once January rolls around.

[@deantalamantes6190]

except paying off the refs

[@moneyblue8466]

Yup

[@moneyblue8466]

They are part of the Og playoff teams

[@Bake-f8f]

...GO Chiefs! 🎉💥♥️🍻

[@binigotmc8891]

It's good for motivation to be underdog.

[@goldxphoenix98]

No way Nick said Mahomes deserves MVP if they go 17-0. Mahomes needs to seriously light up the score board these last 7 games to even be in the convo. Meanwhile Lamar is putting up numbers that are better than what Brady, Manning, Rodgers, etc were putting up and gets no credit for it. Dude is on pace for nearly 50 TDs and only like 3 ints. Thats absolutely insane

[@Underwood_5]

@@goldxphoenix98 Mahomes threw for 50 touchdowns and well over 5000 his first year as a starter. Lamar isn’t on pace for 50 touchdowns. He’s got an incredible QBR that’s historical but what Lamar will get in touchdowns and yards this year is still less than what Mahomes averages since he been in the league. He’s having a great year but this is first year as a passer that’s somewhat credible. He still has yet to pass for more than 4k, only threw for over 3500 yards once. The year he threw for 36 touchdowns he barely threw for 3,000 yards…

[@ХорхеГарсия-э5е]

Last year Lamar won with 24 TDs and fewer than 4k passing yards (and the rushing numbers were decent, but he wasn't even the best "running QB" that year) on the back of his team winning 13 games and his defense embarrassing the other "MVP contenders" in head to head matchups. By that same token an hypothetical 27 TDs, 4k yards Mahomes on an 17 wins team is a lock. Heck, if the Chiefs win 15 games and he has 28-30 TDs and 4.2+k yards it's also virtually a lock

[@bigkermit420]

@@Underwood_5what’s that yap sesh got to do with the mvp conversation

[@Underwood_5]

@ they’re saying Mahomes shouldn’t be in the conversation @ all. I disagree.

[@goldxphoenix98]

@@Underwood_5 ok but that means mahomes deserves mvp this season how? I said lamar is on pace for almost 50. Last i saw it was on pace for 48ish tds. But regard Mahomes he does not deserve to be in the race right now and anyone who says otherwise is too blind by his past accomplishments. Mahomes has not played at an mvp level this year. Thats all it is

[@jgmusic_]

I know that the Ravens lost that game versus the Chiefs but Lamar outplayed Mahomes in that game. He had nearly 400 total yards and no interceptions.

[@GildedWarrior331]

Fax I looked at the stats right after nicks response about him outplay Lamar .he threw it a lot but he did not throw a pick like mahomes did

[@ForsakenWar]

🤦‍♂️😅That's your problem kid... you equate 'outplayed' to stats... Lamar led his team to 20 points... Mahomes les his team to 27 points.... so who 'outplayed' who?😅

[@santoslara9728]

Then turns around and loses to the raiders 😅

[@mr.castle]

​@@ForsakenWar Lamar outplayed Mahomes. Mahomes is an active legend, but it's fair to say he ain't playing better than some other QBs.

[@degande-d1w]

​@@ForsakenWar Your question has a painfully obvious answer that you somehow managed to ignore. The Chiefs outplayed the Ravens, that's who. Lamar can outplay the opposing QB while still losing, because it's a team sport with 45+ players on each team. The Chief's defense did a better job at containing the Raven's offense than the Raven's defense did at containing the Chief's offense. That's how football has always worked.

[@jgmusic_]

Nick only caring about the MVP if Mahomes has a chance and then discrediting it when Lamar is clearly gonna win it, make up your mind

[@bsmith8943]

Lmao. Nothing about Lamar last year was MVP. Nothing.

[@derrickbasley5677]

​@@bsmith8943that's last year wut bout now?

[@KlutchRecaps]

It'd be different if Mahomes was lighting it up week in and week out. He's not. His defense is holding teams under 20 points pretty much every single game. Mahomes can play bad and they still win. That's not most valuable in my opinion. If Lamar or Burrow play bad, their team is getting routed

[@nicholaswest3974]

@@bsmith8943ummm he literally beat every contending team down the stretch and put up great numbers while doing it, and no other player separated themselves from the pack, Josh Allen had 20 turnovers last year, your not an MVP with that many turnovers, point blank, Peyton Manning won a MVP with similar numbers and nobody was crying about that

[@teancummccarthy8419]

@bsmith8943 he's talking about last week when nick said he doesn't think the nfl mvp holds much historical value.

[@RuralBacon]

Oh i see now. Each of the 3 times the chiefs couldn't score a TD in the redzone, Mahomes was just trying to get Butker some reps.

[@thomasblock1164]

Well, he does seem like a nice young man.

[@KlutchRecaps]

💀

[@randallbaughman234]

Who's perfect? But, you know, practice MAKES perfect.

[@Arctanis-vt3hl]

Denver does have a good defense too. Many are sleeping on this. What was unexpected was Bo Nix playing well.

[@UncleKoolaids]

If they have a good defense then Lamar is even more impressive because literally a week before the chiefs game he dumped 41 on them lol. @@Arctanis-vt3hl

[@BryantThompson-w1j]

You know Superbowl MVPs are way better than regular season ones Patrick mahomes has three of those about to go get number 4 and how many does Lamar have? Oh yeah that's right 0!!!!

[@elliotmyers625]

Super classy when fans of the top team are tearing down the runners up. It's not enough to do a lot of winning. This is why people thought Patriot fans were douches.

[@alc6370]

@@elliotmyers625We don’t claim him.

[@connormclennan535]

As a Chiefs fan, I can not tell you how little I care about the MVP award. No one else really does either, not a whole lot of MVP parades are being held every year.

[@nickjerome4992]

As a Bills fan, if allen wins the MVP award, cool. but the superbowl is all that matters. MVP award is turning into a pro bowl nod with how much its a joke. Lamar deserves it this year but we will probably just end up seeing Mahomes vs Allen again in the playoffs

[@jannelukaswessendorf4672]

"im gon do it privately" the irony💀

[@JohnSmith-ju1gi]

KW is so entertaining. I love the chemistry between you guys. Even when I dont care about the teams being discussed, I watch just to see you guys hash it out

[@takerfan4ever]

Whats disrespectful is entertaining that Mahomes should get mvp.

[@KillingWithaSmile613]

W comment

[@travisescorcio1588]

He should get it. They haven't lost a game.

[@takerfan4ever]

@@travisescorcio1588 yes, they have won in spite of his mediocre play, while people like Allen and Jackson more times than not have to "win" it for the team

[@sebastianwimbish9820]

Lamar won last year and shouldn't have lol

[@RetroEternal]

⁠@@takerfan4everMahomes has stepped up and made clutch plays when his team needed him to “win” it for them, other than a couple games where the Defense had to. If Mahomes leads the Chiefs to an undefeated season AND has willed his team to beat the other MVP contenders, then he deserves MVP

[@ronbyers9912]

The reason for the current disrespect is at left tackle. They have to shore that problem up or Manhomes is in trouble.

[@macleod1592]

It's not disrespectful. The Swifties have squeaked out a win by the skin of their teeth 7 of their 9 wins. Eventually their luck will give out.

[@cooper_4420]

i’m sure you’ve been saying this 2 years now

[@macleod1592]

@cooper_4420 Yes.

[@RageDaug]

This is my suspicious as well. Folks are betting are assuming KC's wins this year are more luck than Mahomes prowess. And I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but you can't fault people for perceiving reality.

[@mjes911]

1:06 now it matters that a team was winning at the 2min mark 😂😂

[@dbmagee21]

If mahomes had Derrick Henry, zay flowers,mark Andrew’s and laramy tunsil at left tackle he’d be destroying it.

[@Tiltitup90]

Kelce, Hopkins, hunt/Pacheco ain’t too shabby

[@shanenelson5811]

​@Tiltitup90 The Chiefs 3 interior linemen? Are the best in the league. Both of their tackles though? Bottom 5-7 in the league. Where does most pass rush pressure come from in football? The edge. Their tackles are going to get Mahomes hurt before the playoffs. Watch....

[@shanenelson5811]

Laremy Tunsil protects C.J. Stroud in Houston. You mean Notre Dame Alumn Ronnie Stanley? Lol😂

[@johnnyboi77]

tunsil don’t play for the ravens

[@jamesjazzy8040]

I'm tired of the Bills beating up on the Chiefs they've won 3 times recently the only time the Chiefs win is with a coin toss or a missed field goal. P*****y Ball !

[@enoughpie4442]

I know they’re the best team in football but listening to chiefs talk all the time is draining

[@peewee0224]

Cry about it lol

[@justinday6749]

I went 30 years of disappointment year in year out losing in the playoffs till PM15 got here and I all for it

[@jacobm7870]

Sports shows only talk about chiefs, cowboys and lakers. I’m surprised you’re now getting bored of it

[@zackhurwitz9441]

Even as a 9ers fan, I'd rather talk about a dynasty trying to do something unprecedented, than listen to how unbelievably sh*t the cowboys are on every conceivable level 😂 I've never seen a team get more press for losing, in my entire life.

[@ritchmoore1442]

But if it was your team, there would be no comment. Make hay while the sun shines.

[@ChrisBurns24]

Most valuable player not team

[@myoung3782]

Brou, Josh Allen DID have a touchdown last week! It was on the ground and was a play few quarterbacks can accomplish so please be accurate. Running touchdowns should always be included in the statistics considering a quarterback’s running game is a major part of the modern NFL for many teams.

[@RageDaug]

We learn from First Things that only Lamar Jackson's running stats matter. Nick disregards Josh's running stats every time he brings up stats.

[@A1PrimeTimeMovies]

I honestly don’t know how the Bills are favored this weekend with some of the guys that have already been ruled out. Should be an awesome game between 2 top 3 QBs

[@larry2281]

Because home teams are often 3 point favourites in terms of Vegas betting odds. Who cares what Vegas thinks but that has always been how it is. Don’t know why people are upset over it. They are playing the #2 seed who’s 8-2 who are also at home and undefeated at home this year. If the game was at Arrowhead the Chiefs would be favourites.

[@user-rh4gz8ft3u]

Only one player is ruled out

[@1rdot2]

You get 3 points for being the home team. They're not favored

[@Dacoldest23]

There not favored you get 3 for being home don’t be dense

[@QYgod]

Chiefs 34 , bills 13

[@btwglock3737]

I’m a chiefs fan. I’ve been watching a lot of mahomes football. Every year his defense is bad, he is mvp caliber. Every year his defense is good, he is not. He plays exactly to the level to win, so if this becomes a shootout I have no doubt mahomes will at least play great, he might not win, but he will play great if it’s a shootout

[@christopherg7098]

There is just some much Chiefs group think on this show, I pretty much know what they will say before they say it.

[@HeliosWrath]

Mahomes doesn't care about the regular season MVP

[@JudeGill-tl8po]

Gotta stop giving Mahomes ALL the credit for the Chiefs success. Especially these last 2 years. Man, stop! Btw, Buffalo is gonna win by at least two scores on Sunday.

[@sprawlz6466]

No way Buffalo wins. And this is coming from a Bills fan. If Amari Cooper plays then maybe

[@Lil_Cam_5_1]

@@sprawlz6466 yup

[@raysville7256]

BTW, the Wings may score twice on Sunday.

[@RageDaug]

Agreed. If anyone, the last two years should go to Jones. Jones has been carrying Mahomes on his broad shoulders.

[@jexplorer5730]

I really hope we (Bills) don’t win this one and save the energy for the playoffs with healthy players. Playing disguise, gives opportunity to expose their weaknesses as well

[@sadathebeishy3194]

He said there playing a hard schedule there schedule the rest of the way is easy Nick is always a bills hater

[@ХорхеГарсия-э5е]

I get that Lamar is unfairly maligned very often, but after nearly being unanimous MVP last year (with the one voter that did not pick him getting harassed for doing such) with mediocre passing numbers, and leading hands down the MVP race this year despite not even leading his own division AT WEEK 10 OF THE SEASON, I don't wanna hear anymore about how "underappreciated" he is. The dude is correctly rated, not underrated nor overrated.

[@yaboiahmon]

Dude, everyone not a ravens fan still thinks Burrow is a better qb than him and Lamar has beat Burrow like 7 - 1 his whole career. Yall still put Burrow and Josh Allen above Lamar. Yall underate him.

[@af893489]

Every time the Chiefs barely pull it off, we end up on your channel to make us feel better. Thank you for your break downs

[@corneliusmoat9452]

As a BILLS fan its amazing how much this game doesnt matter, just get through healthy thats it

[@jonathonwoodland5277]

As a chiefs fan I totally agree, need all to get through the game healthy.

[@QYgod]

I disagree, chiefs are undefeated, this team has basically prevented you from reaching SB, BTW they're undefeated, and if you're bills you know you're going to have to beat them to advance in playoffs

[@KapitalElement]

Brou: a great game would be 2 passing TDs and 2 rushing TDs Jalen Hurts: am i a joke to you?

[@bsmith8943]

I honestly don't care about being undefeated. We want that 3peat. True season dosen't start tell playoffs.

[@bigdongbob838]

If memory serves, the two teams with perfect regular season records didn't win SBs those seasons.

[@keenannash2947]

@bigdongbob838 Miami won the SB when they had their perfect regular season, Pats lost in the SB when they had a perfect regular season.

[@waldothewalrus294]

Why not try both? That would cement KC as one of the greatest dynasties in NFL history, beyond even the 90s Cowboys

[@trainkobe2424]

Ain’t goin happen

[@marckusduverger9776]

@waldothewalrus294: Yeah that would be incredible & it’s very possible looking at the remaining schedule

[@Apatheticset]

this underdog stat is cool but literally has nothing to do with the actual football when it’s just some people placing their bets on who they think is gonna win which is why the stat exists

[@reezytchala3746]

Chiefs can lose this game easily. I think KC is due for a lost, this is a good weekend for it against the bills. I’m taking the chiefs!! 😅

[@kghd2647]

Bills can have this game, we'll beat them when it matters most like usual.

[@bigchungus1848]

Nothing in the NFL is guaranteed. Any team can beat anyone at anytime.

[@travisescorcio1588]

​@@bigchungus1848 No, they can't. Because no one beats the Chiefs

[@JamesKennedy-t9h]

Mahomes to MVP : Aww..arent you a cutie..now step aside i got a SB to win. 😅

[@jamesjazzy8040]

Bet $500k on the Chiefs then if your so sure....Go Win half a million dollars if it's so easy Nick ! Plus the Bills don't have their 3 best receivers

[@tankeater]

I remember the Steelers going 11-0 in one of BigBen's final years. How'd that go for them? LMFFFAAAOOO...The Chiefs have been in SIX 1 score games. All while only scoring 30 points once, in their last game... O, yah, the Chiefs also have the 10th easiest schedule. Pretty convenient.

[@ForsakenWar]

Yea... unfortunately for you... the Steelers weren't the Back to Back Superbowl Champs... with the best QB in the game... best HC in the game and #4 defense in the league😂

[@tankeater]

@ForsakenWar why would that be unfortunate to me? Assume much? No, the Steelers didn't play 3-4 extra games for multiple years in a row. BUT, they did squeak out multiple close games and once the good offensive teams started figuring out their D, they got smoked. With such an easy schedule ESPECIALLY on the back half, they're going to be praying they don't get uh high flying offense in the Divisional round. 😉

[@tucklydavis9064]

As a Steelers fan don’t remind me lol

[@ForsakenWar]

@tankeater You kids are cute... every season you get your hopes up... every season the Chiefs crush those hopes...🤣 Chiefs are 9-0... have played the 5th toughest SOS... are starting to get players back from injury... the schedule lightens up... Gonna be two more months of you crying and complaining about how it's not fair the Chiefs are so good...👍😅

[@SCGEO10]

Love prime. But saying you're gonna do something privately on national TV is hilarious 😂

[@NathanAnderson-o3i]

A team that's 3-0 vs winning teams against a team that's 1-2 vs winning teams.

[@danzigvssartre]

That's not much of a difference.

[@isiahredfern7059]

I wouldn’t care who favorite mahomes vs Allen is classic

[@AmanSharma-bj2yc]

chiefs is 4-0 against winning teams, 49ers, chargers, falcons, ravens

[@crustybs46]

A stat missing all context lol

[@larry2281]

@@NathanAnderson-o3i Brou was trying to discredit the Bills for beating the Cardinals on the first game of the year but when the Bills played Ravens they were a losing team. He won’t use that same argument for the Ravens though when the first game of the year against them was against the Chiefs. Until the regular season is over the only records that matter is the record of the day they play. For some reason after the Bills play a team they are no longer considered good.

[@slashertrav]

I love the homers on here… “if Mahomes WANTED it, he would go for it” Likes he’s out there putting up mid numbers on purpose

[@keveedarts3693]

Does anybody else think that Nick lays in bed looking at a picture of Mahomes doing certain things to himself?

[@raysville7256]

It appears as though YOU are manifesting these fantasies. LMAO

[@Ohnonono2024]

Nick is Wright if they go 17 and 0 with the season schedule they had 👀 they definitely would deserve every award

[@BillyBob000-r4s]

No they wouldn’t

[@Chetanp1445]

Nick’s nose is looking crazy in the thumbnail

[@PacoSpade]

Nick doing tricks again

[@CRubey23]

I think if Mahomes actually cared about the MVP he would actually go for it. As Nick and a lot of chiefs fans have been correctly saying, Andy Reid and Mahomes are using the regular season as practice to see what works and what doesn’t. The only reason they are doing that is because they can.

[@thenet9537]

Allen smokes those total TD numbers

[@larry2281]

I like how last year the narrative was pushed that the stats don’t matter if you are the #1 seed. Now that Lamar isn’t the #1 seed they want the stats to matter again. Nick isn’t entirely wrong they are willingly to bend a lot of things for Lamar to get his 3rd MVP.

[@soda8736]

Yes Nick makes good point I was never in the stats don't matter camp.. Lamar is playing mvp worthy this season, not last.

[@Ineedrentmoney]

Last season Lamar won because non of the QBs were outstanding and Lamar had the first seed. This year Lamar is playing at a level that is heads and shoulders above everyone else and it's not even close. Burrow is the only competition but it looks like he will be disqualified since his team might not make the playoffs and the fact that Lamar owns him.

[@A1PrimeTimeMovies]

@@Ineedrentmoney I dont know how people aren't getting this. Who else played at an MVP level year? Maybe C Mac? But as far as QBs, no one really had a great season. That's not the case this season. Lamar and Burrow are playing the best football at the QB position and there's a huge gap behind them. Burrow's record is what will keep him out of contention even though he's playing lights out football.

[@larry2281]

@@soda8736 The MVP has always been a stat based award until last year. Now the same group who preached the stats didn’t matter want them to matter again. It’s hilarious.

[@larry2281]

@@Ineedrentmoney Saying no QBs were outstanding last year is such a lie lmao. All 3 guys had way better stats than Lamar outside of rushing. #1 seed shouldn’t mean you get gifted the MVP for having mid level stats. Lamar didn’t lead the league in anything but rushing. That’s essentially what Mahomes is this year because of the nonsense pushed last year.

[@kingd_sm7828]

17:17 Kevin Wildes missed a "I don't like it, I love it" moment 🤦🏽

[@jamesbridges6502]

Chiefs fans if they receive anything less than 100% praise all the time from absolutely everyone and absolutely everyone says they're 100% guarnteed to win. "Nobody at all ever believes us. Ever. Everyone always doubts us. We're bigger underdogs than 1980 US Hockey."

[@NathanAnderson-o3i]

Do you need a fainting couch?

[@cooper_4420]

i wouldn’t say that, people are just so eager to bring them down or appoint someone else as better than them for no reason lol

[@1rdot2]

I think it's ok to say a team could lose 1 regular season game.

[@_wael]

tell me why last year they were underdogs every playoff round after the wild card

[@cooper_4420]

@ of course it is, but to have them as underdogs is foolish

[@Fishy2na]

Nick said it, these teams ‘play by different rules’

[@NafisFoster]

Let's go chiefs 💪🫡

[@Gaming56456]

If the Chiefs go, 17 and 0 Patrick Mahomes should get the MVP in my. Opinion I hope Mahomes wins on Sunday

[@johngray8998]

Nick KEEPS saying Mahomes outplayed Lamar in game 1. Lamar threw for 270 1td, ran for 120 and Mahomes threw for 291 1td 1int. Am I missing something.

[@ForsakenWar]

Mahomes led his team to 27 points... Lamar led his team to 20 points... so.... Ravens offense also had 74 plays to the Chiefs 50 plays. Chiefs avg'd 7.1 yds per play... Ravens avg'd 6.1 yds per play... See kid... stats are a little more nuanced then you thought👍😅

[@joesebol1425]

Lamar missed two TD throws at the end of the game that would have won the game. And that was before the very last play that was out by a toe. So yea, he play great (and he is of course a great QB), but he didn't make the play when it was most needed.

[@daviddibble2744]

It’s all haterville. I’ve accepted it =people hate to see us shine. They will never diminish what we have. We are a dynasty = probably the greatest team EVER!

[@BratatoChip]

If y’all three peat then I absolutely agree. Greatest team ever

[@thomasglavin5029]

Goff for mvp... that dude threw a perfect game and has had multiple games with almost perfect passer rating and he's not selfish...

[@stevesapp9987]

I agree but 5 int game probably moves him out of contention for mvp.

[@WeChoseHATE]

Well he threw 5INT on Sunday. Nope

[@nBUMBA]

Hoang Bi is falling off. We need you bro!!!!

[@jermaine6848]

I think they got em

[@connorpena373]

Respectfully to Nick, Vegas does NOT have a “blind spot” to the chiefs

[@Messigoat1033]

This is the game the chiefs won’t have the refs on their side because they will be conflicted. They both love the 2 QB and they know the world knows the chiefs to lose so they gone help their second fav QB.

[@CodyMcCool]

Well the chiefs are 4-0 when this games referee is at the helm.

[@2kxTay]

Home teams usually get 3.5 points. The fact that the chiefs are only 2 point dogs actually is very respectful. They’d probably be 5.5 point favorites at home

[@kamatisman6528]

In behalf of chiefs nation, thank you refs in advance 😂

[@A1PrimeTimeMovies]

*Chiefs Kingdom

[@AudioAl5195]

I just don’t get the emphasis of an individual regular season award over winning. Jackson is the MVP as it stands if he loses to KC that award is a door stop to me.

[@Zmanath00]

It's only disrespectful because the bills have so many injuries. Their offence has been better than the Chiefs this year.

[@ForsakenWar]

🤦‍♂️😂Chiefs have a LOT more injuries/missing starters then the Bills.... lol

[@Zmanath00]

@ForsakenWar considering the entire bills team aside from o-line and rbs has injuries, I'd respectfully disagree that it's a LOT lol. Bills have lost full use of 3 receivers in 2 weeks bud

[@BratatoChip]

@@ForsakenWarjust not true lol

[@ForsakenWar]

@Zmanath00 Chiefs have been down their top 3 WRs, #1 RB, #2 TE, starting LT and 4 defensive starters for a month and a half...

[@ForsakenWar]

@BratatoChip But it is... look at both teams IR lists....

[@rodneygaston1382]

This Broussard/Bayless talking head dude always screaming he's a Mahomes guy.... But has never picked the Chiefs to win squat not even a SANDWICH 🤣

[@dbmagee21]

Mahomes is working magic this year with all the injuries. Just stop

[@donr5113]

Yea cause Mahomes and the Chiefs are the only team w/ injuries...lol look around everyone's got injuries....How did Rice get injured? Tell your qb to stop throwing int's and taking cheap shots at knees and he still has his #1 wr. Mahomes himself bent Rice's knee the wrong way and you complain about injuries...laughable.

[@Jp-do9ny]

No he isnt. If he had the Bengals defense, he'd have 2 wins

[@heathward8270]

Mahomes isn't doing anything that defense has carried the chiefs all season dont act like mohomes has been playing great when he literally had more picks than pass tds till a week or two ago dude

[@bigchungus1848]

Mahomes would have 4 wins with the Bengals defense.

[@P.E.O.ll-RhodesScholarGraduate]

😂 Now I get it! Just like the Sisterhood. The NFL wasn't going to give Tom Brady everything, they saved the undefeated season for their man, Patrick Mahomes. 🫢 oops 🤣👍Jerry Jones 3-peat

[@dkxkee]

I realize there are hours and hours of air time to fill, but my God, do I get sick of all the MVP talk that literally starts in the preseason. The only thing that matters is winning games.

[@spideysg1163]

As a Rams fan, Mahomes has been terrible this season and whether the Chiefs win or lose this week, Josh Allen is ahead of Mahomes in the MVP convo, it’s ridiculous we are even having this discussion rn, I guess maybe the refs can rig the MVP for Mahomes like they rig the Super Bowls for him!

[@Rmagz00]

I’m a rams fan too but what does being a rams fan have to do with your take dawg😭😂

[@casscastellano1902]

@@Rmagz00has nothing to do with it. Dude is just an idiot 😂 you can tell when he said the “Refs rigged it” for KC

[@R17759]

What does being a rams fan have to do with any of that

[@jordangreen7198]

Sound like a hater bro. He might be having his worst stats season but he wins when it matters keep crying about the refs

[@KCCheez]

Mahomes is only terrible compared to Mahomes. He actually has the 6th highest QBR right now… and climbing.

[@josephaustin8067]

Mahomes isn’t close to playing MVP level. They have a great defense and team all around that doesn’t make him MVP. Lamar, Allen, Burrow, Hurts all have better numbers and all are leading more dynamic offenses.

[@fdrstan]

MVP pfft…. We are coming for that 3PEAT crown, boyeeeeee

[@angelo_mdc7798]

We need to vote for brou to take some new terms sessions cause “clout” doesn’t even mean that 😂😂😂😂

[@lukevacca1537]

Wildes we need your help. Nick is a Mahomes guy, Brou is a Lamar guy. For the sake of balance, turn a blind eye to your Boston roots and become a Josh Allen guy. This show doesn't hype him up enough. 44 touchdowns last year, 196 total touchdowns in the last 4.5 years (30 better than 2nd place Mahomes, and over 50 better than the next guy after that). Singlehandedly carries the Bills offense, lowest sack rate in the league, leader of the team with 600+ point differential over the last 5 years. Give him the flowers he deserves.

[@michaelmason9891]

They failed to mention purdy threw 5 interceptions in the game vs ravens. That probably has more to do with him losing mvp vote than losing the game.

[@skipbayless4375]

Mahomes saying the chiefs should win every award by default regardless of stats if they go 17-0 is such a Homer take, if Brou made that take for another he’d be going crazy

[@synodontis419]

You have to ask if Vegas is calling them underdogs to influence betting lines.

[@WRLD-fv2hd]

0 TD, 2 INT, 1 Rush TD. Don’t leave out the touchdown 😭

[@nicholasdupont2468]

QBs "beating" each other is so silly. The QBs never play each other. They play the opposing defense.

[@TheKunda3]

Even Hubbs was surprised 😂

[@TPhunkay]

"They don't believe in Sports gods. I do." lololol Tell 'em, Nicky!

[@andrejbogdanov2816]

"Disrespectful" is such a ridiculous word to use. It's betting odds! If you think they're so off, put 10% of your net worth on the Chiefs.

[@davonjackson5033]

saying mahomes outplayed herbert when herbert played with 0 tackles and 1 ankle is slightly disingenuous.

[@Lexidezi225]

Mahomeboy: 3 time Super Bowl MVP. All I need to say is

[@dwaynetate8786]

Pssst. JuJu Smith-Schuster is playing in the Bills game....

[@junkaccount8302]

I think people don’t realize the chiefs style of play is to chew the clock and play efficient offense, let the defense do their job. Mahomes obviously doesn’t have the eye popping numbers he used to have, but he’s also getting less possessions per game and he’s being less aggressive with those fewer opportunities. However, I will say the Chiefs do struggle in the red zone. If the Chiefs could just finish drives and stop settling for field goals they’d be winning these games by a lot more.

[@gongshow6766]

What if Mahomes 3 peats?