The Sony A7IV Sucks… Get THIS Instead!

[@JosephMartin]

Feels like I just cracked open a bag of saltines in the comments section NOTE: The R6 mkII's stabilization warble is substantially improved with firmware update 1.5.0! No more funky corners.

[@coachkesey]

Pretty much! 😂

[@TheBelugma]

Is this true for wider focal lengths? I heard its still there

[@mjos6957]

But, this but that you’re bias

[@bubbajones5905]

Canon makes some very good cameras but blocking third party lenses is a deal breaker.

[@JPMNRB]

That's exactly why I went with Sony

[@Kxng5Jeevy]

Totally agree

[@FGGiskard]

The canon is “cheaper” until you see the lenses. I’d not even consider canon FF today

[@dxgable]

Ef lenses are pretty affordable with an adapter

[@ericlindenau]

Sony A7 IV is the better hybrid cameras, a7 33mp Photos Canon R6 ii only 24. Sony video oversampling 7k in 4k Canon 6k to 4k. The crop is no problem, because, slow motion mostly are close ups. If someone want to film raw always, they choose Red or blackmagic. Canon get your money with the lenses and different mounts, Sony u have one mount and use the lens on a cheap apsc or on a Sony burano.

[@JosephMartin]

It all depends on how you use it! These are mostly arguments for the sony being a better video camera though- from a hybrid standpoint, the Canon is a much stronger option for action and event photographers, while still having objectively better video specs.

[@kmcb14]

@@JosephMartin so in other words it's better for some but not for all. By saying it sucks or to buy something instead is unfair, hypocritical and sending the wrong message. Your statements say more about you than want you are trying to portray, you need to chose your words more wisely, this is not professional.

[@Commonyou7149]

​@@kmcb14That's why people are seeing this video and we are commenting below that. Pure KZbin video marketing tactics, nothing to do with the product as it says.

[@VetIntel]

​@@kmcb14click bait trash

[@romandulce999]

You said "Only 24 mp" like it has 10mp or something. 24mp is still a lot. I used both cameras and for event photography and other stuff I literally cant see any difference in my photos. Where I saw a huge difference is the high ISO performance being better with R6II.

[@geogaming369]

The Sony A7 IV is currently $2,098, which it often hits regularly. But it was very recently $1,849 on sale (and may return for black friday). Just to add some context to the pricing mentions in the video from 2 weeks ago, it's been in the $2,098 range since the beginning of November. Also just want to mention that Sony has cameras for each use, so comparing it as a video camera is a bit odd, since the Sony A7 S series is generally considered best for that. A7 Standard all around A7S Great for low light/video A7R Best for high res photography A1 Top of the line all around camera that encompasses the best aspects off all 3

[@Bfletcher07]

Don't forget the A9iii for sports and wildlife!

[@sukalyan_naskar]

If price is a concern I will happily buy the Sony a7iv again and pair it with Tamron or sigma f2.8 lenses and I will end up saving a lot of money.

[@Bfletcher07]

tamron for the win!!

[@robin-comments]

Joseph Martin: "The Sony A7IV Sucks.." Every other KZbinr: "There isn't a bad Mirrorless camera these days" The only thing that sucks is the time i wasted watching this video. You could have done a way better job convincing people to decide between these cameras. R6 4k sharper due to 6k oversampling to 4k? Even in your compare shot the A7IV looks a bit sharper/detailed. You forgot to mention that the A7IV samples down to 4k from 7k and it is among the sharpest 4k output on the planet. The R6 sure has a some great features that we want to see in the A7V, but you make us believe the A7IV is a bad camera for lacking those features. And then when the A7IV has better stabilization performance or better photo features.. we do not need it suddenly? Also, the A7IV has far better noise performance at high level ISO and better Dynamic range in underexposure. You sure how to bait us mate.

[@JosephMartin]

I dont try to convince people to buy one camera or the other, I’m just sharing some of the facts and my opinion on them. I admit I didn’t know the A7IV downsampled from 7k, I guess that explains why I didnt see much of a sharpness difference (as I mentioned in the video.) The R6 cleans the floor with the A7IV when it comes to photo capability though. That’s obvious

[@robin-comments]

​@@JosephMartin I see a KZbin thumbnail/cover showing a Sony A series camera with the text 'Don't BUY' and the video title 'The Sony A7IV Sucks… Get THIS Instead!'. And you still reply on my comment with 'I don't try to convince people to buy one camera or the other, I’m just sharing some of the facts and my opinion on them'. You start the video saying that buying the A7IV would have been a massive mistake. And at the end you say 'If you are trying to choose between the Canon R6 and the Sony A7IV..The R6 mk2 knocks it out of the park and blows the A7IV out of the water. So go with Canon if you trying to choose blanked between Sony and Canon'.

[@importantsomeone153]

@@JosephMartin which is bettor in low light video high iso night videos in my camera video is darker compared to what it shows in liveview

[@kmcb14]

@@JosephMartin I dont try to convince people to buy one camera or the other, I’m just sharing some of the facts and my opinion on them.???? The clue is in the title - The Sony A7IV Sucks… Get THIS Instead! So in two weeks this post still stands with the same title. Why not delete the video and replace it with one that says what you REALLY mean with the correct introduction title, or maybe there is a way to change the actual title?? I smell BS and click baiting !!

[@tomirwinphoto]

@@JosephMartin The R6 cleans the floor with the A7IV? Are you blind or is a 4K monitor missing from your desk? The a7IV is considered the best camera for wedding photographer by most wedding pros. That 24MP Canon can't come close to Sony's 33MP detail, dynamic range and low light capabilities.

[@maruwaanmoses]

Biggest issue with the Canon echo system is the lack of third party lenses, and with the price of the native RF lenses, the body price difference is nullified quickly. But yes, the Sony 4k 60 crop is a definite con.

[@ChrisSallis]

I had considered switching my a7RV for a R5 mkii right up until I started looking at lenses. Canons lens options are both confusing and extremely expensive

[@mtbboy1993]

7:24 Sony Creators app lets you control the camera remotely, so doing this wouldn't be an issue, on doesn't have to be near the camera, one can be meters away.

[@Propellerhead1]

Have been fortunate enough to have owned both but as a hobbyist photographer/videographer only posting on instagram I’ve learned the hard way that you don’t need to break the bank to make good quality content Canon 5d mkii is my new/old camera :)

[@bbawalan]

Sony a7IV was not my first choice at first, it was actually the canon R6 II, because I am already familiar with the UI, the real reason I bought the A7IV was because of the deal I got at that time compared to the R6 II, but before I pulled the trigger I did my last deep dive research which is the lens choices. Canon RF mount is not completely open to other lens of choice comparerd to sony, I had seen the sigma and tamron line up and boy you can see the difference. For me it boils down to lenses of choice. If I could not afford the pricey tag of the original mount, I would wish there would be alternative, that is what lead me to sony. Do I regret buying it? No. It will all depends on your choice. Is the A7IV perfect compared to Canon R6 II? It will all depends. I suggest do a lot of research at first before jumping into a lot of conclusion that you might regret later on. For me both are the best out there. It will really comes down to what you feel, need and use.

[@JosephMartin]

I’m glad you were able to find the right camera for you! The lack of third party lenses for RF mount is definitely a negative. Canon’s opened up this mount recently, but we’ll probably still have to wait another year or so before we see RF mount sigmas/tamrons on the market.

[@SoggyKatnip]

A7iv can be found for ~1600 new if you know where to look. The 7V is out in a few months so anyone paying full retail for it is a bit silly

[@JosephMartin]

Looking for deals or waiting for the V is the way to go!

[@fweak21]

Where are you looking?

[@gres95182]

The R6 mark II sucks, get an iPhone instead.

[@JosephMartin]

It would be cheaper

[@VetIntel]

But iPhone sucks

[@PNWMOTION]

iPhone sucks get an arri instead

[@Freedom015]

Can you please make a battery life comparison on canon vs sony???

[@MesoHunterYT]

I disagree with this video. I have an a7iv for my chasing, and the low light is great when paired with a good lens such as Ziess or GM. Also, who can complain about oversampiling from 7k and full pixel read out with no crop. As a tuber as well, it seems you made a controversial title for some easy clicks and views... 🤔

[@keremgunaydnlar5153]

For still life and food, product photography I was torn between the Sony A7IV, Canon R6 II and Sony A7R4. I think I eliminated the Canon because 40 frames per second wouldn't work for me. Also, since 61mp photos would tire me out, the A74 is a better option for me.

[@romandulce999]

I just got the A7IV for 2060$ where i live. And its still very expensive compared to R6II that costs 1740$ brand new in my area. If it wasn't for the lenses, I would get the R6II without any thoughts. I used friends R6II for a weak, and compared to the a7IV it has MUCH better high ISO performance compared to A7IV.

[@koko12ize]

Unfortunately in this date in age ,canon is still decade behind sony , if you are limited to lenses , like canon , so will your work and ability to be creative , that was the deal breaker for me and the low mega pixels , no lenses your stuck with limited creative work , it's like having a lamborghini , verses a land cruzer , you can do more with a land cruzer then a lamborghini , your limited , ,

[@theoldvideoguy]

I’ve been in the Sony ecosystem now for about a year and a half. I’m getting an a7iv. I do appreciate your comparison. And as we all know, it’s the person behind the camera most of the time that makes the difference. So thanks for your thoughts.

[@orlie184]

I wanted to purchase a Sony camera, but my experience with them has not been good. First and most importantly they do not service their own cameras. I own the A6000 and the viewfinder will wash out from time to time. The 18-105mm f/4 I had was defective right out of the box. Final thing for me was sending the camera to Photo Tech (authorized repair center) for a sensor cleaning, and it was less than perfect. I also owned the D700 and sent it once to Nikon for cleaning and it came back pristine. I cannot imagine an independent repair center would have the facilities to do what, say a Nikon repair facility can. Google Sony customer service and it seems to be almost all bad. I just couldn’t bring myself to buy a camera from them.

[@heeltoeco]

I always bounce between my Lumix S5II and the Canon R6II. I end up deciding to keep my current gear every time. The S5II is built slightly more towards video which I like and (although the lineup is small for now) the L mount has third party lens support. Plus I really enjoy the Panasonic's design language. No matter what model, G mount or L mount, the buttons are right where you want them to be. Add good AF - I can't complain.

[@marin_real_estate_photography]

Could you due me a favor please? Could you kindly stop down your lens a bit when shooting your A Roll? It is really distracting with a shallow depth of field when the focus keeps jumping from eye to eye as you move your head around.

[@CoasterOutlaws]

Rf lens ecosystem is horrible, Sony has a much better lens selection. I don’t care about photos but the 7K oversampled on the A7iv is a lot better when cropping in post.

[@veskoveskov1073]

I will take a7 4 any time over canon m6. Video on canon sucks with the jittery corners.

[@JosephMartin]

The stabilization warble sucks big-time, but as long as you dont combine Lens IS with IBIS it goes away!

[@zegzbrutal]

M6, an APS-C that's nearly 10yrs ago... Wtf you are not comparing the same thing

[@hawaiifreespeechnews]

@@JosephMartin Really? So which one is better to have on for video? The Lens IS or the Camera digital stabilization?

[@ScottLiddle-ik9ez]

Then go shoot Astro landscape and the a7iv turn night time into daytime . And canon looses all detail in noisey shadows

[@grekori748]

Hey Sony Lovers!!!! I need your advice. I have the A7 IV in my cart with the Sigma MC-11 EFto E Mount Adapter. I have some Lenses that fit the Canon R6. I am thinking of using these lenses with my new A7 IV (after I click the purchase button). Am I on the right track in getting the MC-11 EFto E Adapter? I have the following lenses: Canon 100-400 Canon 24-105 Canon EF 75-300mm Canon Macro28mm Samyang 2,8 100mm Macro Rokinon 2.8/14mm 7 Artisans 10mm 1:2.8 fisheye

[@carolinehaley1014]

Were you able to find an answer to this? I'm a canon shooter that's switching over to Sony as well 😅

[@grekori748]

@@carolinehaley1014 Yes... not from anyone on KZbin. But from BH Photo, where I bought my Sony from. If the lenses are EF mount, then yes. But the lenses I have none of them are EF Mount.

[@getfmlr]

Oh boy...don't even bother adapting Canon glass to Sony unless you plan to shoot manually. The AF does work for photos but nowhere what the Sony glass will get you. And for video, the AF doesn't work at all because the Sigma Mc11 is only meant to be used with Sigma EF glass.

[@curious_gage]

You lost me when you said a Canon camera is better than a Sony camera lol

[@Kxng5Jeevy]

Why? Most are .. Sony just has the cheaper lenses

[@RandomMotoThings]

Clog 3 has like a whole 1-2 stops less than slog 3. Dealbreaker

[@warrenb9343]

I just bought the A7iv for $1849 plus I get nearly $400 cash back from CapOne. Other camera I considered was the Z6ii. I chose the Sony due to the lens selection. The Z6ii did a few things better, but the cost of lenses was a big factor. The A7iv does some things better and I know I will love it. I am coming from a D7200. Never considered a Canon.

[@eshwarreddy9039]

How did you get the cash back , can you share

[@KurtG879]

This was a pretty bad take :-(

[@peterobrien7465]

That's a bit rude 😮 . Let's see your video on these cameras.

[@99unclebob]

its all just your opinion, nothing more, it is also a year newer than the A74, and your pricing info is wrong your quoting old versus current pricing, do a review when you have the correct facts and people are buying way more Sony cameras than Canon, i know i am in the industry for years and not a Canon fanboy, learn to make an unbiased review, both companies make great cameras, simply said, then it comes down to personal preference , i used Canon for years and now enjoy years of Sony cameras and no issues of each Sony camera i have owned and Sony offers more lens options for all there camera bodies, so it is a win for the consumer ,not just Sony

[@221olli]

Sony is the world's best compact camera with low weight, and the world's best optics. The Sony a7iv is a dream to use for street photography and landscapes

[@rudiansyaharya2402]

sony is better than canon. because sony has a lot of lenses, it makes it very easy for photographers and videographers to choose the lenses they want to buy. while canon has very few lens choices and the prices are very expensive. not to mention their mirrorless bodies are big. they make mirrorless look like dslr 😂😂😂 canon is sucks

[@dxgable]

As a Sony and canon user I can say canon is great. They still sell more cameras than anyone in the US and if you adapt ef lenses which are widely available they’re a great option.

[@rudiansyaharya2402]

@ Sony has a much better ecosystem

[@dxgable]

@@rudiansyaharya2402 if by ecosystem you lens then yeah sure but that doesn’t mean canon sucks. Canon and Sony have more options than someone with a gh5 but that doesn’t mean Panasonic sucks

[@mrhapz3048]

If I had 3k to spend on every lens I use on my Sony to swap to canon I'd switch but I can't afford a £3000 lens when I can get one from sigma or gmaster glass for half the price... If canon allowed third party glass I'd be tempted but their pricing sucks

[@Studiotek]

Or get the Lumix S5IIX with 20-60mm and 50mm f1.8 for $1,909

[@tomirwinphoto]

LAUGHABLY INACCURATE MATH The 24 MP Canon R6 II is an excellent hybrid and will save you $200 not $500 compared to the Sony 33 MP A7IV but ONLY if you don’t buy any lenses to shoot with. Comparing a modest three lens professional kit with a 24-70, 70-200 and 85 1.4 the overpriced Canon RF glass will set you back a whopping $7200 vs. a similar Sigma e-Mount kit of only $3360. Need a 35 1.4, an f/2.8 wide zoom, and perhaps a 135 1.8 and you’ll need to sell your Ferrari to round out your Canon kit. And the lighter Tamron glass will save you even more. The a7V is expected first quarter of 2025.

[@WestHouseRealEstate]

I still remained a Sony A7IV fan, even after this video. :)

[@hhankx]

If r62 had internal all intra, it would be the beast

[@through_the_lens_art]

Nowadays can get A7 IV for less than £/$2000. Given the lens selection for E mount, I'd never consider Canon unless I can afford the quality RF lenses.

[@azimow2905]

Hate on sony should be encouraged

[@Sunaoc]

I was Canon user until the new RF lens announced.

[@Capzlk]

I'm not going to pull open a can of hate here, but it does seem to me, just going through the video that this is completely your reasons for preferring one over the over. Obviously both are more than suitable for professional work. Some points you make are highly subjective, sometimes simply false. The main reason for most people to buy a camera nowadays is: which lens ecosystem am i in, and what am i used to / what do i find easy to use. So why people take so much offence with the video is because this is not very transparent in your video, instead claiming the canon is simply better, which is entirely a matter of opinion.

[@unknownstreetsvisions]

He said you have turn camera around for settings on a 7iv yada yada yada.....you can have presets memorized on the knob...this dude doesn't know the a7iv well enough to compare

[@JosephMartin]

Sure you can have settings with the mechanical dials memorized and use those but it’s way more clunky to reach around for them than using a touchscreen

[@andrewchristie6483]

“It’s bad…” Well… it’s less about the Sony being bad, it’s a perfectly fine camera…” I don’t need amazing video and I’d rather not sift through hundreds of bursts, and if I did need the amazing video, apparently the IBIS makes it unusable when moving? The rest of it was fair, but it appears the Nikon z6iii gets the better of them both now.

[@ApertureO9V]

Canon hands down has the best gear both bodies and lenses. The problem is it costs a kidney and a lung to get a set of lenses. I can get 80-90% of the performance from Sony and lenses for less than half the cost. The price of the body on Sony is made up for in the lens selection

[@ebutuoy7471]

So this is just an affiliate advert? So its a untruthful review?

[@JosephMartin]

I have affiliate links for both cameras

[@RCGJR_]

Lumix s5iix 👑

[@4b494d]

i was about to put a negative comment lol but i watched thru this and ... i think i agree with you for 2024. i was a canon shooter for around 10y and i made some money with canon. But after becoming more hobby mode, i moved to sony when Canon was lagging with mirrorless. Now in 2024, sony a7-4 is dated now and canon is the better option for the price. heheheh good review

[@JosephMartin]

Thank you! I enjoy seeing these companies compete so I’m excited to see what sony does with the A7V

[@RafaelInuzuka]

AHAHAHAH 30 seconds in and you say it costs 2500 brand new ? I literally saw it yesterday for 1806

[@zoiefarmer8346]

Can i ask where u saw that? Looking to purchase and trying to find a deal

[@RafaelInuzuka]

@zoiefarmer8346 french Rakuten, Sony alpha 7 IV with a battery is 1806 or 1810 Also on another french website larueducommerce Sony a7 IV is at 1830

[@RafaelInuzuka]

@@zoiefarmer8346 On french Rakuten it's at 1806 brand new with a battery there's also another offer at 1810, on larueducommerce it's 1830 tho wouldn't trust it over Rakuten, on MPB you can find some 2nd hand Sony a7 IV for 2000 which I find weird

[@RafaelInuzuka]

@@zoiefarmer8346 I answered twice but I don't see my answers here, weird

[@Johanbeerden]

What a waste of time watching this. Sony A7IV is a decent camera, still top of the market in its segment where Canon and Nikon are still catching up (and getting there for sure). Fanboy video imo.

[@jukeboxjohnnie]

Wow, I went from Sony A7RIV to Canon R5 and hated it so much I sold it and bought back an A7RIV again, still buying back GM primes I had before. I just found the whole Canon experience absolutely horrible never again!

[@fabiankowalski3356]

And say that canon shooter…Yhym…

[@JoshuaMcMullen.Official]

I’ll give you a thumbs up for the well made video, but I’ll give you a comment down here cause I’m a Sony fanboi. 😂 Sony has done me well, but I’ll be honest - haven’t spent enough time on a Canon body.

[@bondgabebond4907]

Who cares. He is a shill and in order to feel good about this Canon, he has to rip Sony. I love my Sony digital cameras as much as I love my Nikon F2. I got a lot of great images from the Nikon F2. I didn't need a motor drive, though I did buy one. It finally broke. But pictures I got for my job working on USAF base newspapers I did one shot at a time. Practice develops skill. Once you reach that skill level, any camera will do fine.

[@JosephMartin]

Haha thanks! Like I said in the video, it’s not that the A7IV is a BAD camera by any means, it’s just at the wrong pricepoint these days. I did really enjoy the images I got out of it.

[@cartap22]

I’ll give you 100$ for that sony and I’m taking all the risk 😂

[@unknownstreetsvisions]

He a canon snob like iphone users 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@richarddutchholland4780]

RF lenses 😂😂😂😂

[@alphaandomega2709]

What in the world 😂. Dude you clearly don’t know how to use your gear.

[@JosephMartin]

No you

[@m.e.p.r]

Haha....Sony is the better Camera by a mile. Canon is in decline for good reason....they don't listen to there customers.

[@TheMrKonov]

Meanwhile Nikon users are crying 😂

[@JosephMartin]

What is this Nikon you speak of?? 😂

[@MrFishman1963]

Mmmmmm. Really?

[@gravel-eu8sj]

yeah.... but the sony looks cooler :)

[@JosephMartin]

Fair enough 😂😂

[@acecarolino101]

Clickbaity

[@mikeborn226]

OmG, what a nonsense

[@uhohwhy]

Не занесли))00 обиженка.

[@Dushan-Np_Camera_Lens_unboxing]

canon good for photography sony good for videography.

[@JJ_Photo]

That title is just so dumb... I never had or cared about any Sony camera. But of course it does not suck. Be a little serious dude! Some difference in video mode. Really? And the price - please check again. My first time here on this channel. And also the last of course.

[@JosephMartin]

Bye

[@aviandrone]

Lol

[@Youcantphazeme24]

Tell me you hate Sony with with out telling me you hate Sony. 🥱