Sony a7 IV vs Canon R6 Mark II vs Canon EOS R8: Which Camera SHOULD You Buy?

[@greggordon2721]

As a professional shooter. I started with Canon. First DSLR was a 10D in 2004. I invested heavly in Canon Glass. During the Mirrorless Wars, SONY def had the edge, and I almost switched. I have tried both Nikon and Sony systems as well. Bought used ones to try out, and ended up going back to canon. My personal preference and having shot with Canon for so many years. I have an R3 and looking for a good backup. Think I will be going with an R6MK2

[@knowwork9]

Try the beast 7iv

[@f3r9and0]

@@knowwork9nah.

[@16blank45]

I am not a professional photographer. I am looking to get back into photography. Previously Canon was my go to brand, heavily invested in them. I was intrigued by what I saw from Sony to go back into dSLR photography, but I think I may go back to Canon. For what I need, they seem to be offering the best thing for my pocket.

[@seasnakes6337]

I have no problem with Sony, but my coworker is always bla, bla, how good his Sony Alpha is. Now, I gonna buy Canon R8 just to piss him off 😅😅😅😅😅

[@sudipsyoutube2678]

😂

[@shaulgovea6699]

Lol

[@Token_Nerd]

Canon really knocked it out of the park with the R8 and especially the R6 mk ii. Was really impressed with both bodies (and I was really impressed with the R5 despite its overheating shortcomings).

[@FrontyardSoccer]

i don’t shoot a lot of video, but i don’t think i’ve had a single overheating issue with my R5

[@casanova9227]

i dont like canon grip fclin small even my hand small i perfer sony

[@JackZucker]

no they didn't. Nobody writes about this on youtube because they're pining for likes but in 4k60 mode, indoors, dummy battery, capturing via HDMI, my R8 goes about 20-25m before flashing the temperature warning.

[@hankschrader2353]

Isn’t there a huge lack of glass with canon?

[@Diostillrocks]

@@hankschrader2353 Canon has a lot more lenses if you include the EF lineup.

[@_mattparish]

Going with the R8 (pre ordered back in February). It pairs well with my current R10 body with common batteries, lightweight and size compared to other options

[@_mattparish]

@AD-hv4cy maybe for your use case the Z6ii is superior, but not for mine. Using an inferior AF system, and adapting sony glass doesn't make sense for my genre/needs. Jared is a much better salesman than you are unfortunately lol

[@lewcehjitl3282]

@@AD-hv4cygood luck focusing with that Nikon. It’s fully manual. They just added AF on there new Z9 body and even then the Canon Eos R8 a $1500usd camera beats it in AF performance.

[@palepotato9364]

​@@lewcehjitl3282 TF are you talking about

[@lewcehjitl3282]

@@palepotato9364 potato cameras.

[@nickwilliams7867]

One thing you did not mention is file size. I know it does not affect everyone but the size of a Sony raw file is approximately twice that of Canons per megapixel. For me, time is money and the larger files do annoy me a little as a Sony shooter.

[@roganthoerson1909]

keep in mind that Canon is loseless compressed so you should compare Sony loseless compressed with Canon then the difference is not so big.

[@nickwilliams7867]

@@roganthoerson1909 the compressed raw of the R5 is about the same size as a compressed raw from my A9. 45mp canon about the same size as a 24mp sony

[@roganthoerson1909]

@@nickwilliams7867 ok maybe i went from a Canon 7D1 to a A7IV and file size between.cr2 and arw for loseless compressed was not even double for double the MPx. Canon might have done some improvement since the 7D1. which would be nice to have because space and backup can be costly. I also need to know that i should erase pictures.

[@Salaaran]

For me, I would go R8 almost every day if we are talking these three cameras, I would rather get the slightly cheaper camera, get some glass and then save up for the camera that I really would want (R5 mk II, R1...) down the line. I personally don't mind the slightly worse features on the R8, if it means I can more quickly get nice glass and equipment. PLUS by getting the R8 and using the 1k left over you could probably get a camera bag, a clip, a tripod, extra battery and some filters (if you expect you are going to need them) if you are starting out. Now that sort of stuff is not as exciting to buy, but if they make your experience taking photos more enjoyable, then getting e.g. and expensive and really good camera bag is worth it, if it means you will actually bring it with you.

[@tomd4748]

That’s silly unless you NEED a camera asap for work. As soon as you lay down $800-1000 for a camera you don’t really want…as you save up for the one you do want…you just put yourself $800-1000 in the hole towards that effort.

[@Salaaran]

@@tomd4748 You might want the nicer camera, but do you need it to get the job done? I didn't end up getting the R8 as my RP is still fine for most things for me. My point being that the R8 vs R6II I would get the R8 if I needed a camera body as the features of the R6II isn't worth it for me for what I want.

[@CornPopsRazor]

Or someone like myself looking to take photos of their kids playing sports the R8 seems like the way to go. Not looking to video other than setting up a tripod to record a swing so we can go over it later and see how they are doing. R8 seems to be able to handle soccer, basketball and softball which is what my daughter's play.

[@icegatt136]

There is a mistake about the weight of the three cameras, the right are A7iv 658g, R6 II 670g, and R8 461g.

[@דבקליין-סרטיםמרגשיםבשבילהחיים]

33M - is the winner ! about 40% more pixels. grater dynamic range. great video support with big HDMI port

[@felipemuci5944]

Big hdmi is a huge advantage for video

[@tomd4748]

@@felipemuci5944Just go Blackmagic for video. If you’re not an actual photographer, you have zero use for all actual camera features like megapixels and the rest.

[@daveroush4896]

I live in the Canon EOS and RF ecosystems. I bought an R6 a few months back, and love it. The R6 mark II would be one of my future choices. Or maybe an R5 mark II when they arrive! Thanks Jared. Love what you do!

[@17an28]

R5 mk 2 has arrived!

[@roganthoerson1909]

i have bought a A7IV a year ago and i don't regret it because of the glass and the system cost. My father just got the R6II he was invested in full frame EF lenses so it made more sense. That said i prefer my Tamron 35-150mm f2-2.8 than his Canon RF 24-70 f2.8. But the camera... the canon is newer and has some bells and whistles but that isn't that tremendous. Not like when i switched from the Canon 7d1 to the sony A7IV. also on noise, nowadays with pureraw and those other programs... it doesn't matter as much as in the past. if you can shoot up to 12800ISO it is plenty enough.

[@knowwork9]

So the iv is the beast as you and they said

[@roganthoerson1909]

@@knowwork9 my father is very happy with his R6m2. He has more full frame EF glass than me and that works better with the adaptor than on my A7IV.

[@antwilkphotography]

A74 purely for the 3rd party lens selection. All cameras are good now. I've shot most brands and can get decent images, image quality and focusing

[@softwarelivre2389]

Better to go 1000 USD less on the R8 and get the EF to RF adapter then. Or just pay a little extra on each RF lens. It might still be cheaper.

[@Gremlack13]

If I didn’t want to upgrade to a camera with ibis and 2 card slots, the r8 kills it all day compared to my rp which I enjoy. Of between the other two, it’s no contest that the r6ii has a much better feature set at same price point. Sony just has the mp advantage.

[@mufidbaloulli]

How are you liking the RP? I'm thinking of buying a used RP in a short while when more cameras are available on the used market

[@kavvkavisuals]

​@@mufidbaloulli get the used r instead

[@neethuandthomasphotography]

@A D R8 autofocus kills Z6II also Z6II is way too expensive , also Canon has much better lens options ..Z mount big and bulky lenses are boring also Canon EF lenses just work as seamlessly as RF Lenses on a RF Body.. You cant say the same about the Nikon DSLR Lenses on their mirrorless bodies.

[@gianniskamakas3578]

​​@@mufidbaloulli I have the RP, buy it, you will lose nothing, the pictures are always great. Ok AF is not that fast but it's extremely accurate with 30 years old EF. The highlights are not clipping so you have plenty of information. Video only in 1080p. It's good, very good, no problem with that. Just buy it and start shooting. You will earn more with this habit rather than spending money and watching other photographers (4k video never used that because of crop)

[@Yupthereitism]

The Sony is much better for video. All of its video modes are 10 bit

[@HikingBob]

A note about USB-C charging with the Canons: The power block/external battery you use has to have "Power Delivery" circuitry which not all USB-C chargers have. Without the Power Delivery feature, the Canons will not charge.

[@albedo0point39]

All power banks and power supplies from the last few years are PD. Tried it on about 10 I own from different brands - Apple, Anker, Ugreen - all work fine. This is really a nonissue.

[@kylegoodman5196]

Found this out the hard way when going on a weekend getaway and my R6 wouldn't charge with the same mobile charger I use to charge my cell phone. I ended up finding an old work laptop charger lying around that did the trick.

[@truthseeker6804]

the issue is, it would not charge whilst recording, unless you have a very specific PD charger.

[@albedo0point39]

@@kylegoodman5196 I'm sympathetic... but if you're travelling or working with gear you should always trial it at home first.

[@Benjamin_Jehne]

@@albedo0point39 No, they absolutely aren't. The Sony can be chared with everything. Tkae the cheapest powerbank, it will work.

[@JustinOwenDesigner]

I switched from Canon and got the A7iv. A big reason for me is that in the Canon, you lose the touch screen when you plug in an external monitor. With the Sony, the touch screen works perfectly with my Shinobi 5" monitor plugged in.

[@JoseRodriguez-gr2go]

I got the canon r6 mark ii and absolutely love it. My main focus is videos and it does amazing in low light. I love shooting at night now with this camera.

[@trevor9934]

Thank you Jarod for this review. I shoot Canon, Fuji, Nikon, Olympus and Sony, but the vast majority of my gear is Canon. I am finishing my transition from DSLRs to the R-series bodies and currently operate 1xR5, 2xR6 and have just got the R6MkII. It is an awesome camera for all the reasons you have eloquently outlined, although I will note on the 3rd party lens front that Sony have been in the MILC market for about 10 years with their mount, while the R-mount is just approaching 5, and of that, they (and Nikon) lost quite a bit of development and production time because of COVID. So, I am giving Canon (and Nikon) a wee while longer to get their lens selection out there, and then I expect to see lenses from reputable 3rd parties like Tamron and Sigma. I have four RF lenses currently but currently retain the EF 70-200 f.4 MkII, 100-400MkII, 70-300L and the Sigma 150-600c and 60-600s lenses. ALL of which have worked without issues via the adapters on my R-series MILCs. A camera is just a tool, and I am not a brand follower per se, for different purposes each has its strength. I went to Canon back at the start of the century for the glass, not the bodies - which change very frequently. That said, when one invests in a system, it becomes expensive to chop and change, so I don't. Frankly, ALL makers make awesome cameras, the rest is down to budget and to a major extent, the skill of the operator. Thank you again for your interesting review.

[@EdDiaz00]

The Canon EOS RP's battery grip fits (and works) on the EOS R8. I have it, and am able to use the R* with 2 batteries in the grip! Love this cam!

[@vinod_damunupola]

You have r8 ??

[@dazzassti]

It's a no brainer for me, the Canon may be better but that's really getting ever single benefit out of each feature that you may not use. I've just priced up both ecosystems and my preferred lenses, i.e. 70-200 2.8, and 24-70 2.8 and there's £3000 difference in price!!! That's mad! I can then get a 85mm 1.4 extra and still save £2200 The lens issue absolutely kills the Canon argument and I've been a Canon fan 35 years.

[@jessearodriguez]

Just adapt some EF Art lenses from Sigma. There are videos out there comparing the RF mount 24-70 f2.8L from Canon and the EF 24-70 f2.8 art lens from Sigma on an adapter and the difference is basically marginal, like tiny improvements in sharpness and autofocus when you go with the RF lens.

[@portraitblake]

Honestly they still lead the market in lenses sold. KZbin makes it feel like people aren’t buying Canon lenses but people definitely are.

[@kenjiyamamoto423]

EF art stupid,. is much cheaper,.

[@MohammedShello-e4q]

with these lens choices yes but canon have 35 mm 1.8 stabilized, while if you compare Sony their 35 mm lens is costs more without stabilization.

[@thomastuorto9929]

For 35 years? Prove it! You still have your AE-1 Program?😊 I do. Haven’t used it in probably 15 yrs. Still have 2 rolls of Kodachrome 200 in the fridge that is about that old.

[@jordans2678]

Entertaining presentation! The review was good too. Haha. Was on the fence between the Sony A7IV and Canon R6M2, but not anymore. Jared, you sold me on the R6M2. Thanks.

[@vasusurattiantra6946]

Totally agree. I ve been using Sony Nikon Canon mirrorless for many year's just recently, I decided to sell all and get R5 it's fantastic and about to get R8 for backup camera.

[@burakburak094]

Any updates? Do you get r8? Is it any good?

[@caroldavis5921]

I switched from Nikon z6ii to the R6ii in April as I was having tracking issues when switching from vertical to horizontal. I'm a boutique school photographer so this is imperative for me. I don't have time to reset focus 3-3 times a kid, just got too frustrating. Plus the lack of lens options. I love the R6ii, but am realizing it's too big for my hand. I got a hold of the A7 iv and it fits nicely in my hand (almost as nice as the Nikon). I don't notice much difference in colors but I don't think I'm 'clicking' as well with the A7 iv. I did hold the R8 at the camera store and it felt good in my hands. I'm not willing (I think) to give up the 2nd card slot and frame rate. I like the idea of third party lenses though, with Sony. Ugh. I need a money tree so I can have both the R6ii and the A7 iv. Help!

[@majorpayne0195]

I have a lot of LP-E17 batteries that I used on my 77d which is a big plus for me of getting the R8. I'm sure that a 3rd party will release a battery grip that can take 2 LP-E17 battery even though a cable is needed to use the vertical shutter. This will lessen the "issue" of changing batteries frequently because of LP-E17 lower capacity. I'm just a hobbyist and for me, I'm ok with an EOS R8. Also, IBIS is not a big deal for me as 2/3 of my EF lenses have image stabilization.

[@killpop8255]

If you put an EOS IS lens on a Sony (or Canon) with IBIS do both IS systems work at the same time?

[@background0001]

I know that the Sony A7R V is nowhere near the Sony A7 IV but I would love a comparison of them side by side. As you said you should get good glass instead of an expensive body.

[@GrantMcWilliams]

@A D That uses Sony.... You guys are so predictable.

[@neethuandthomasphotography]

@A D He is not biased at all ..He is 100 % genuine.

[@tonygerassi1502]

One note that got missed on the log video front is that the a7iv can record All-I and IPB in either H264 or H265. Canon is only H265 and IPB. Also the a7iv has better low light dynamic range with slog 2 compared to clog 3. Also just for fairness, the A7iv is a year older than the R6ii. Will an A7v review have the opposite opinion if it outperforms a year old R6ii? It appears both sony and canon are on a leap frog refresh cycle. The other thing that I preferred with Sony when I switched from canon is if you are using auto iso for exposure, sony exposes for the face where canon exposes for the scene. There are little pet peeves with both systems that could have been mentioned instead of just saying the newer model has newer technology and is obviously better than the older camera.

[@Thai.H]

Ngl you want a Gerald undone comparison your on the wrong channel

[@truthseeker6804]

no real difference between ipb and all-i only huge unnecessary file sizes. i even record in IPB compressed for extra smaller file size. exposing correctly would provide better image than depending on extra stop of dynamic range. a7iv is an older camera but still sold at msrp as sony latest midrange camera. exposure should be fixed instead of it jumping around due how bright or dark your face gets, and if youre vlogging and need that feature, just set exposure metering to center, it should work similarly. "the newer model has newer technology and is obviously better than the older camera."

[@tonygerassi1502]

@@Thai.H In that case we can just say whatever our opinions are and skip the facts. In that case, I like Pentax and it’s the best camera because etc,etc,etc.

[@Thai.H]

@@tonygerassi1502 no I'm not saying u aren't right I'm js this isn't that channel for that

[@tonygerassi1502]

@@truthseeker6804 there is no difference in quality, but there is a difference in hardware requirement to process it in editing. It depends on your preference but the point is the option is there. And fixed iso is ideal, but as a one man band filming yourself, one less work around then having to pay attention if you are centred in the frame is the helpful feature of face detection exposure.

[@Ratbeeitch]

Tech is an endless race, (love it) with each company leap frogging it's competitors. What amazes me is how often consumers are willing to switch systems based on the latest and perceived greatest. Even though their past & current equipment accomplishes everything they need. We'll sell are equipment at a discount to buy features we'll never use or need. These cameras are so feature packed we'll for get half the sh*t it does and never use it. From the rat race to the tech race, wow, they got many of us good. 🙂

[@cpr1087]

If canon had sony's mirrorless lens system, I would choose canon r6ii instead of sony a7iv, but for the moment sony seems to me to be a better choice.

[@truthseeker6804]

you can adapt ef lenses. i couldnt find any sony wide angle full frame lens with good autofocus under 400bucks, like the canon has the 16mm f2.8

[@lewcehjitl3282]

@@truthseeker6804the adapted lenses make the camera huge heavy and deformed looking.

[@truthseeker6804]

@@lewcehjitl3282 the cameras are already huge and heavy. Then stick to a phone.

[@MarvinLloydSanico]

​@@truthseeker6804HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@sergeyzakharov7326]

@@truthseeker6804 samyang 18 2.8

[@tornado5783]

I just ordered the Sony A7RV today!

[@naziyaali5864]

i think forgot to say that a7 IV shoot 30fps at 4k with no crop, but if u shoot 60fps at 4k, then it crops, canon r6 II doesnt crop 4k at 60fps, tell me if m wrong

[@FamilyofTech]

R8 for video sounds promising ! Especially using a light gimbal like the DJI R3 mini ! If it wasn’t for that little battery !

[@rivergate950]

GET A THIRD PARTY GRIP THAT TAKES 2 BATTERIES.

[@rivergate950]

GET A THIRD PARTY GRIP THAT TAKES 2 BATTERIES.

[@rivergate950]

@A D amazon has a few vendors search for canon RP grip

[@bobbyrossfella3248]

I was looking at both the a7iv and r6 mark ii, instead decided on the r8. It has great internals. 24.2 mp which is good enough for high quality stills. 4k at 60 fps without crop. 10 bit. Light weight. Great in low light. Only big issue I could find is the battery drain. Honestly though, for 1k less than Mark ii and A7iv, you can afford to buy a couple extras plus spend more on better glass. For the price point, you can't beat the features this camera offers.

[@nicoallison9228]

Great comparison Jared! Could you do an R6 Mark II users guide? I’m gonna be getting one within the next couple weeks and I feel like enough has changed from the R6 that a separate users guide to help me set it up and understand the camera could be helpful

[@ccolt8460]

I'm with you for the same reasons. R6 Nark II for the focus system, the card slots, the battery, the 40 fps,the ISO range, and the max shutter speed. All around it seems to have the best combination of still features and that's before you even talk about video.

[@maximusaugustus6823]

I love the Sony a7IV

[@RokDAWG1]

I’m really interested in what Sony will deliver this year. I feel like last year they scrambled to stay in the game but now it’s past due ton up their game or get left behind.

[@rollandelliott]

hold my beer, Here's a global shutter camera a9III. sony delivers, again.

[@Q_QQ_Q]

Canon is at least a decade behind Sony 😂

[@RokDAWG1]

@rollandelliott Haha yup! It's like they heard my call to deliver the goods! They did it right after I purchased my a7iv & a 6700! Haha!

[@RokDAWG1]

@Q_QQ_Q I'm not certain it's a decade but I'm definitely saying that it's years for sure!

[@davidmorrison5974]

Great comparison Jared. I have both the Sony A74 & Canon R6, (which I’m just about to swap for the Canon R8). I enjoy both systems for slightly different reasons, & love having a foot in two camps. Keep up the great work!

[@pauloveza]

hey, david! how are you? Do you have any prefference between the cameras? Do you think sony is a better hybrid camera? Thank you!

[@M4TR1X]

Love that, I have an R6 but I'm planning to get a 2nd body, no matter the brand.

[@officialvisaural]

@@M4TR1Xdid you get a Nikon for the memes

[@Hodenkat]

The R6 MkII would be my choice. The grip looks nice and chunky so I would imagine it would feel much better to me.

[@kifley19]

The grip is nice and better than the A7iv

[@jthms_snapshots]

i love how you can always rely on Jared to give you the most detailed differences i love your work Jared you are a true LEGEND!!!!!

[@phantom79]

Perfect timing with the last couple of videos.. My last camera was the Rebel xt,, started getting to know it before personal things happened and I walked away... Just recently the shutterbug has reawakened in me and I've been looking at these 3 frames... I reserved the R8 a few days ago but was still feeling a little hesitant.. I'm good now.. Glad I made the decision to move forward with the R8.. Looking forward to rejoining the world of photography,, and hopefully learning and expanding beyond what the R8 offers. We shall see. I'd drop the money for the R6 II,, but to be honest I'm afraid of dropping that kind of money and just not using all of the camera enough.

[@bonOhm]

The biggest FAIL of the Canon R6ii is that it only records video in IPB (lower quality, more compressed footage) not in the superior ALL-I mode. The Sony A7iv has both options. Sony also has better dynamic range, better low light performance, better focus tracking, regular HDMI, more Megapixels, 3rd party lenses. Canon has faster fps, no crop in 4K60, better ergonomics, better LCD. Overall the Sony seems like the better hybrid (photo-video) camera.

[@lazaroantoniozundaherrera2706]

Sorry...you see the video...better eye tracking?😮

[@shadowink13]

Exactly the video I was looking for! I was trying to decide between Sony a7 IV vs canon R8. Thanks Jared!!!

[@ahmedrabea8757]

What’s your choice please

[@kimomed1988]

Hi, how are the differences in Dynamic range for post editing?

[@o.aldenproductions.9858]

I bought an R8. I don't do weddings OR sports so I'm not afraid of one card slot. I even still use my 80D for fun with manual Lens baby lenses I do portraits, families and dogs

[@3483maverick]

Great video. I was ready to ditch my old canon glass and go with a Sony mirrorless. Now, it looks like the R6 MarkII.

[@AUav8r05]

I’m at the same point. Did you go with the R6ii? I’m so close to selling my EF canon glass and 5dm2 to try the Sony.

[@adnanmansour8757]

R6ii , your video made the decision simple! Thanks

[@TheWillRogers]

There are aftermarket grips for the EOS Rp, which shares the same body as the R8 so I would suspect those will work. The R8 and Rp lack additional contacts for grip->camera communication so the shutter for portrait orientation is operated via a release cable (port located just above audio ports). I can't guarantee this will work, but the body is the same, the battery is the same, and I can't think of a reason off the top of my head why it wouldn't work. It's not as good as name-brand grips most of the time, but they exist. The extra grip and battery life are super nice on long days or when you've slapped a huge lens to the front of the camera, every time I've used one I'm glad I shelled out the $50 for one.

[@TheWillRogers]

@A D it depends on the grip and the camera. My D5300 grip didn't and my E-M1 grip does not block the SD door. For a camera like the R8 or Z50, ones with the SD card in the grip, yes, you'll have to at least partially remove a grip to access storage. This isn't a big deal, unless for some reason you're using weak ass SD cards that you need to swap frequently. Even shooting 4k and railing off 11fps with my Z50 I don't fill over a 512gb over the course of a day.

[@TheWillRogers]

@A D yeah that sounds about right. SD cards are cheap though, just get a Lexar pro with a high capacity and you shouldn't have to worry about it.

[@gianniskamakas3578]

In stills, I never felt the need of IBIS. If I need a slow shutter speed it goes less than 1/4 and if I want a fast one it goes over 1/125. What's the point to pay 1000€ more for IBIS (ok and 2 cards slots)

[@oceansunsetak]

R8 liking it better but cannot get used the to the lack of battery indicator all you get is full charge half charge. So when that great shot appears the tiny battery goes dead with a red letter warning in the viewfinder. I am returning it for R6 mark 2. My 60D has the same battery and I have 4 spares.

[@TheTrailDancer]

How does Fuli and Nikon compare?

[@rudyreimer302]

I've got a Canon R5, R6, and an RP. Been shooting Canon since the old film days. It's all about ergonomics for me. Function in action is what is about for me. The latest Canon bodies are kicking ass. I don't give a frack about 3rd party lenses. You want quality get quality. Done. People comment on the differences on your gear.

[@NZOMV]

Everything about the r8 is perfect but the battery life seems atrocious from what I've looked up. Yes, you can charge while filming but I'd rather my camera battery life be reliable and keep a battery pack to charge other things. (gimbal etc)

[@CoffeeTalkandTechJohnRyan]

Having the R6mkii myself sports photography and the fact you have no crop at 4k 60fps says it all. I'm still annoyed about no 3rd party lenses though.

[@vidthreenorth4007]

Actually, I have 2 Canon EF lenses that I use on Sony E-mount using adapters (Sigma MC-11). I also use old Sony A-mount lenses on E-mount with an adapter. Using adapters is not wonderful, but it meant that I could use the old glass.

[@richbottarini86]

Just wondering if Sony would do more with their firmware update to close the auto focus if the results would differ. I shot photographs exclusively and the one draw back for me is the autofocus. Are you listening Sony?

[@richbottarini86]

@@Fostit You missed the point and made it a personal attack. The point is the auto focus is not as fast or accurate as the Canon system. You might consider you wording when responding

[@aaronpage3841]

As an events photographer it’s the Sony every time. The better battery and card slots is a must and far more important than the higher fps rate. The Sony autofocus is as good if not better in low light situations too. The Sony colours are awfully though and take more work in post to get right

[@gattalbe]

what do you mean with "awfully though"? in comparison to what?

[@aaronpage3841]

@@gattalbe i just find the skin tones less natural than on my Nikon/Fuji files; I know it’s all subjective and I cant point my finger to what it is in particular I don’t like, but it’s just the feel I get when looking at the files.

[@AbHAT22]

Terrific video and comparison. Canon is following their printer ink cartridge strategy. Sell excellent cameras for cheap and rip customers off on the by selling extremely overpriced RF lenses.

[@BBROPHOTO]

This would only run true if the EF to RF adaptor didn't exist. You can still use every EF mount lens ever made on R mount cameras, so there's a huuuuuuge range of lenses to use.

[@AnnoyinglyCharming77]

A7 IV for the full sized HDMI. my old canon that thing was the first to go on my monitor and it was so annoying 350 to fix.

[@headbang3r519]

Just got R6MK2 with an extra battery, i cannot wait for it to arrive. I went with Paypal credit, I just need a few months to pay if off but i selected a 24 month period in case to keep costs down.

[@TheDka1]

I do like the A7IV from what I've seen, but I've got to say that the R6II is a marvel of a camera. The speed of the sensor is amazing (I'm talking readout speed and FPS), plus the AF is really strong. In the UK it's a little pricey £2779 and I've just not got the money for the lenses I'd need, otherwise I'd probably get the R6II. I'm hoping that Sony can implement faster non-stacked sensors into their next generation of cameras.

[@truthseeker6804]

i believe its the same sensor as the r3 but they just didnt make it stacked. they both have 6k as their max video output.

[@MunroMcLaren]

I have a Canon 90D. When I switch to full frame mirrorless I don’t know if I want to stick with Canon and get the R6 Mark II or switch to Sony A7IV. I have been pursuing the Sony Alpha subreddit and love how the photos look.

[@johannesschroeder5117]

Hello Jared, I had the Canon R and I missed the joystick and the IBIS. The R6 MKII is a great camera and gives me more options for my photography. Thank you for the comparison. Best regards from Germany.

[@macbaar6073]

As a Sony Sports Shooter for more than 10 y now I will switch to Canon r6ii and use older es lenses…. Like I used old Minolta Sony Sigma & Tamron A-Mount lenses…

[@jimjimbot]

I'm a sony A7iii user for 4 years now, it work great. i'm hybrid user btw. my only complaint is the poor AWB and the LCD isn't great. but for everything else is great. now i'm considering to upgrade for A7IV, but it's so compelling to see the new R8. with less than $600 i can upgrade to a more feature wise camera. should i? lol

[@ceasarmercado6759]

Same thoughts here i also have a sony a73 and leaning towards the r8 for a second body since i have EF lenses

[@morfawbebongnkeng85]

Consider the lenses.

[@cutefunnyanimals1457]

Nice explaination on all three camera features & function , well done buddy 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@energieinfo21]

In 12/2023 pricing between R6 ii and R8 was 2199 vs. 1699 EUR - difference was only 500 euro bucks therefore R6 ii was my choice due to IBIS, larger battery, better ergonomics. To be used for hybrid shooting especially HQ video with ultrawide or in low light ... Wanted to have a full featured camera which might last (hopefully if GAS isn't hitting me again) 5-10 years for 2k final products but 4k original material for "who knows what I will be doing next" ;-) Last content related remark: I use "old" EF glass due to its availability in my drawer, will maybe use FD glass and have exactly one RF lens: The RF 35 macro which will be my low light specialist if needed ... Thanks for the fair review(s) (as always!)

[@donovanpatron]

2:43 I heard that sony a7IV does better at high ISOs despite having more megapixels

[@RobDTom]

One other advantage of the Canon AF that you didn't mention is the fact that it has an "Auto Subject" detect mode, which seems to work very well, and means you don't have to go into the menu to change from "eye" or "train" or "animal" detect etc. Pretty big deal in my opinion.

[@mrwashur1991]

I just assigned a button to switch it. You act like Sony won’t have this feature soon. It’s how it’s always worked. Canon jumps ahead, then Sony jumps ahead and Nikon just kind of follows behind. Meanwhile sony has a ton of great glass to choose from and canon just keeps churning out bodies like people don’t need glass to go with them..

[@mbismbismb]

Which sony cant do hahaha

[@RobDTom]

@@mrwashur1991 You are right, I am acting like Sony won't have this feature soon? You know why? Because Sony won't have that feature soon. Sony is *terrible* when it comes to firmware updates to add new features to their cameras.

[@RoeeDori]

Would love for you to elaborate on the EF to RF adapter - why do you not recommend it? Is there a loss of quality?

[@cyrilkollock]

just ordered an R8, with the known limitations im excited to see how a svelt body works out after so many 'pro' anchors.

[@shang-hsienyang1284]

Haven't watched yet, but I would buy the R6II - and I am mainly a Sony user. The R6II is a power house worth every penny. Sony's advantage is the lens ecosystem. Funny how things have reversed compared to 2016.

[@jonathanhabens9795]

but can you use the old canon lenses on the sony with an adapter too?

[@ManuelKahana]

I doubt Sony makes its own cards. I compared the Kingston Canvas card to the Sony pro: exactly the same spec, same country of origina (Taiwan). It's the same for ProGrade too. These are the exact same cards with different budges, all using silicon made by TSMC.

[@SeanWonders]

I was thinking about choosing 1 among these 3 cameras! You read my mind! Thank you so much!

[@breakfastforyousoul]

@A D Nikon needs to take the z9 and create newer cameras with that and improve upon that tech. They are falling behind in autofocus miserably compared to sony and canon that is a fact. I liked my Nikon Z but I got rid of it because it just was not up to par and they need to trickle down the Z9 tech to the lower end new models or they will continue to lose even more market share. If Nikon does not shift , they may not be around in more than 5 years. Sony and Canon it seems will be the top dogs unless Nikon kicks it in gear.

[@simmo0916]

Off the back of a few of your videos, I Just bought the R8 to replace an aging 1DsMk3. Looking forward to getting to grips with it!

[@Kaho_Tokyoo]

The battery is slightly annoying with the R8, especially if you want to shoot without disruptions. I went to the R6ii versus the R8 just cos I wanted a very versatile body camera and capture moments with the mechanical shutter with the certainty of no rolling shutter, and I just dislike carrying multiple batteries. Also, IBIS in low light handheld with my standard 24-105 F4 certainly helps

[@benoittissier58]

Autofocus is the big weakness of the A7iv. While detection and tracking work well, many pictures are out of focus. For runners coming towards the camera, you may get 70 % of sharp pictures in bright sunlight, spot tracking at 6 FPS. Gets worse if the light decreases, the subject has low contrast, you pick wide area. It's probably very nice for portrait or landscape.

[@harryvuemedia]

autofocus is subjective. Seems like you're talking about just autofocusing on 1 person rather than anything else. And besides that, what lenses were you using and what's your shutter speed?

[@brianb4501]

Interesting that now sony's AF is now big weakness all of the sudden. Did you upgrade the firmware? The initial firmware that my A7iv was shipped with AF was slow but after updating the latest version it was significantly better. Also, you need to ensure the firmware of your lenses gets updated as well.

[@benoittissier58]

@@harryvuemedia 70 200 GM2, 1/2000. It is one particular use case, nothing subjective.

[@benoittissier58]

@@brianb4501 Both updated, thank you for the advice. Autofocus is a weakness compared to what was said of the camera, I have not used other systems. But I should have been more careful when the Northrups got only 90 % of sharp shots for Chelsea walking towards the camera in the sunlight. They called that sports ! Mathieu Gasquet got only 75 % with softer lighting. These are not extreme cases.

[@Meer0002]

Can we charge canon r8 with usb while using

[@jzaydalvarez]

R6 MKii, here I come. Thanks Jared

[@flightscapeaviationphoto]

I'm an Aviation/Airshow Photographer - the EOS R6 mkII is an absolute BEAST... BRILLIANT results. - I recall YOU once saying "Canon is going to be the sleeper in the bunch" ... well, you were CORRECT 🤙

[@fastmachinemedia]

Hi Mark, I’m a newb myself, about to pull the trigger on a 6mii, curious what lenses you’re using for aviation/air show?? I’m looking more for birds/wildlife but if you can shoot flying planes then that will work for birds!! 😂

[@flightscapeaviationphoto]

@@fastmachinemedia I use the RF100-500L IS USM almost exclusively when shooting flying subjects.

[@mcmillanvideos]

It's interesting watching this after coming back from Best Buy... I went in thinking I would buy a Sony, walked out thinking I would buy a Canon R6 or R8. The canon was just super intuitive, easy to pick up and shoot. It is fast, and to my surprise made the most satisfying sounds. Ha. They did not have the R8 on display, but since it's a little smaller, then I'm pretty sure that's what I'm going to buy.

[@antiquebowieknifechannel4611]

Hi Jared...Can you use a Vari Zoom Lanc controller for filming with the R8 ? I need hands free option..this is why I have been using Camcorders.

[@FocalPoint-xh6bi]

Was the squished basketball heading down or coming up, after hitting the floor?

[@allenschneider1847]

Do either Canon or Sony offer lenses with the aperture ring on the lense? Similar to Fugi.

[@lewcehjitl3282]

Can you do image quality between both?

[@Valendrizzle]

The question is if the EF-lenses focus well when adapted or if they ruin most of the focusing advantage the Canons have over the Sony.

[@MarvinLloydSanico]

This. I'm following.

[@BleepingWorld]

They work just as good if not better adapted to RF

[@BBROPHOTO]

Late reply, but EF adapted lenses focus just as good as native RF - I've tried both out a fair amount. Obviously higher end EF glass will always focus better than lower end EF-S, but the same runs true for native RF glass. EF adapted lenses are basically RF native glass without the control ring electronics / pins on the lens mount. The adaptor is purely electronic pins so that the EF mount can talk to the RF mount and adapt the size.

[@Valendrizzle]

@@BBROPHOTO Thank you, very much appreciated.👍🏻

[@karewenger1343]

How long time is the camera inoperative when waiting to clear the buffer after a 40 pic/s shoot?

[@gianni2272]

Just got the r8 as un upgrade to my m6 mark ii. Still trying it out, but it seems to do the job really well

[@muhammadimran2382]

Hello everyone, how does R6M2 feels without touch screen focus. I found this functionality quite helpful while taking portrait with camera ion mount.

[@rashadalmilad]

This is the first time I feel Jared is not being fair . A7iv is a great hybrid camera ... the extra 9 mp, size, and the lens options of the sony are major pluses that are more of a deciding factors for most people than card slots or minor auto focus speed variance

[@truthseeker6804]

does sony have an affordable wide angle prime like the canon 16mm f2.8?

[@sneakergearz]

@@truthseeker6804 You can actually get a Sigma, Tamron, or Samyang in primes or zooms in that range for a decent price. Viltrox is launching a 16mm 1.8 soon that they generally are aggressively priced. On Sony, you just have a ton of options. I personally use either the Tamron 20-40 at 2.8 or the Sigma 16 1.4 which is APSC but with the Active Steady shot works well with full frame actually.

[@truthseeker6804]

@@sneakergearz 20 is not as wide as 16. i couldnt find any sony wide lens 15/16/17mm thats under 500usd.

[@sneakergearz]

@@truthseeker6804 Samyang makes an 14 and 18 2.8 both rated fairly well and right in your budget. Also, the 11mm 1.8 Sony which is $550 but has been on sale works mostly in full frame, again in video with Active Steady shot, but even in APSC is 16mm as well.

[@truthseeker6804]

@@sneakergearz i just read reviews on bnhphoto and people complaining about samyang autofocus. also im talking full frame not apsc lenses. thanks for your suggestion. i went with canon couldnt find any good wide affordable sony lenses. i got good ef lenses plus the 16mm solid for vlog.

[@V-adventurous]

I can’t wait for 3rd party glass hopefully this year we get a few options for the rf mount.

[@giosamigos]

17:06 can someone explain that more to me? Not shooting raw or the internally/externally RAW. Is it more for color grading options for the video? Is that the difference with the r6markii? What would be the purpose of the 10bit 6k ProRes RAW or Super 35 12bit 3.7k ProRes RAW output?

[@dtotief]

@23:16 We can't wait for a video where you slap Manny! 😂😂😂

[@zuesconcepts3979]

sony aiii or canon 8 which is better as a hybrid camera that has more priority for video shooting.

[@tinadkuper]

Really like your channel..best out there. Can you compare the om-1 to a comparable Canon camera. I bought an om-1 for the lightweight because I'm a hiker. I wish I would've waited for the eos r8. I am a Canon person

[@melodytalks3432]

You know what it is Jared, it is because Canon's strategy is resolutely going for all round camera vs Sony's incremental approach which leaves users in disadvantage, guessing & hoping for next release to compensate. I hope Sony would change this trend....

[@dannythemedic]

Fro is the best camera channel!

[@0neMoment]

I think if you had continuous autofocus on & had it locked in with eye tracking on the A7 IV you would’ve had a better response I’ve looked at a few autofocus videos for the Sony & it was pretty fast & very accurate

[@nilstoonen9389]

Correct me if i'm wrong but if you buy an EF to R mount for Canon you can fit your Sigma or Tamron lens on the EF mount?

[@alirpn]

I think that with all the great information you've given, I'm sticking with Canon 100%. I'm saving up some money and thinking of getting the Canon R6

[@ads3453]

Awesome review thank you. The only thing I am cautious of is if there is a r5mk2 about to be released with the new AF system of the r3. Then you get higher res and a great af without having to have a chunky body like the r3

[@jss27560]

I wish you included the new nikon that you are testing, I know NDA, but Out of the 3, I'm looking at the R6 Mark II as Ido more BIF, animals, and sports. The faster frame rate, tracking, and dual card slots but I wished that they used CFexpress B cards which are faster and cheaper.