Sony a7 IV vs Canon R6 Mark II vs Canon EOS R8: Which Camera SHOULD You Buy?

[@greggordon2721]

As a professional shooter. I started with Canon. First DSLR was a 10D in 2004. I invested heavly in Canon Glass. During the Mirrorless Wars, SONY def had the edge, and I almost switched. I have tried both Nikon and Sony systems as well. Bought used ones to try out, and ended up going back to canon. My personal preference and having shot with Canon for so many years. I have an R3 and looking for a good backup. Think I will be going with an R6MK2

[@knowwork9]

Try the beast 7iv

[@f3r9and0]

@@knowwork9nah.

[@antwilkphotography]

A74 purely for the 3rd party lens selection. All cameras are good now. I've shot most brands and can get decent images, image quality and focusing

[@Token_Nerd]

Canon really knocked it out of the park with the R8 and especially the R6 mk ii. Was really impressed with both bodies (and I was really impressed with the R5 despite its overheating shortcomings).

[@FrontyardSoccer]

i don’t shoot a lot of video, but i don’t think i’ve had a single overheating issue with my R5

[@casanova9227]

i dont like canon grip fclin small even my hand small i perfer sony

[@JackZucker]

no they didn't. Nobody writes about this on youtube because they're pining for likes but in 4k60 mode, indoors, dummy battery, capturing via HDMI, my R8 goes about 20-25m before flashing the temperature warning.

[@hankschrader2353]

Isn’t there a huge lack of glass with canon?

[@Diostillrocks]

@@hankschrader2353 Canon has a lot more lenses if you include the EF lineup.

[@Salaaran]

For me, I would go R8 almost every day if we are talking these three cameras, I would rather get the slightly cheaper camera, get some glass and then save up for the camera that I really would want (R5 mk II, R1...) down the line. I personally don't mind the slightly worse features on the R8, if it means I can more quickly get nice glass and equipment. PLUS by getting the R8 and using the 1k left over you could probably get a camera bag, a clip, a tripod, extra battery and some filters (if you expect you are going to need them) if you are starting out. Now that sort of stuff is not as exciting to buy, but if they make your experience taking photos more enjoyable, then getting e.g. and expensive and really good camera bag is worth it, if it means you will actually bring it with you.

[@tomd4748]

That’s silly unless you NEED a camera asap for work. As soon as you lay down $800-1000 for a camera you don’t really want…as you save up for the one you do want…you just put yourself $800-1000 in the hole towards that effort.

[@Salaaran]

@@tomd4748 You might want the nicer camera, but do you need it to get the job done? I didn't end up getting the R8 as my RP is still fine for most things for me. My point being that the R8 vs R6II I would get the R8 if I needed a camera body as the features of the R6II isn't worth it for me for what I want.

[@CornPopsRazor]

Or someone like myself looking to take photos of their kids playing sports the R8 seems like the way to go. Not looking to video other than setting up a tripod to record a swing so we can go over it later and see how they are doing. R8 seems to be able to handle soccer, basketball and softball which is what my daughter's play.

[@JustinOwenDesigner]

I switched from Canon and got the A7iv. A big reason for me is that in the Canon, you lose the touch screen when you plug in an external monitor. With the Sony, the touch screen works perfectly with my Shinobi 5" monitor plugged in.

[@trevor9934]

Thank you Jarod for this review. I shoot Canon, Fuji, Nikon, Olympus and Sony, but the vast majority of my gear is Canon. I am finishing my transition from DSLRs to the R-series bodies and currently operate 1xR5, 2xR6 and have just got the R6MkII. It is an awesome camera for all the reasons you have eloquently outlined, although I will note on the 3rd party lens front that Sony have been in the MILC market for about 10 years with their mount, while the R-mount is just approaching 5, and of that, they (and Nikon) lost quite a bit of development and production time because of COVID. So, I am giving Canon (and Nikon) a wee while longer to get their lens selection out there, and then I expect to see lenses from reputable 3rd parties like Tamron and Sigma. I have four RF lenses currently but currently retain the EF 70-200 f.4 MkII, 100-400MkII, 70-300L and the Sigma 150-600c and 60-600s lenses. ALL of which have worked without issues via the adapters on my R-series MILCs. A camera is just a tool, and I am not a brand follower per se, for different purposes each has its strength. I went to Canon back at the start of the century for the glass, not the bodies - which change very frequently. That said, when one invests in a system, it becomes expensive to chop and change, so I don't. Frankly, ALL makers make awesome cameras, the rest is down to budget and to a major extent, the skill of the operator. Thank you again for your interesting review.

[@seasnakes6337]

I have no problem with Sony, but my coworker is always bla, bla, how good his Sony Alpha is. Now, I gonna buy Canon R8 just to piss him off 😅😅😅😅😅

[@sudipsyoutube2678]

😂

[@shaulgovea6699]

Lol

[@EdDiaz00]

The Canon EOS RP's battery grip fits (and works) on the EOS R8. I have it, and am able to use the R* with 2 batteries in the grip! Love this cam!

[@vinod_damunupola]

You have r8 ??

[@דבקליין-סרטיםמרגשיםבשבילהחיים]

33M - is the winner ! about 40% more pixels. grater dynamic range. great video support with big HDMI port

[@felipemuci5944]

Big hdmi is a huge advantage for video

[@tomd4748]

@@felipemuci5944Just go Blackmagic for video. If you’re not an actual photographer, you have zero use for all actual camera features like megapixels and the rest.

[@dazzassti]

It's a no brainer for me, the Canon may be better but that's really getting ever single benefit out of each feature that you may not use. I've just priced up both ecosystems and my preferred lenses, i.e. 70-200 2.8, and 24-70 2.8 and there's £3000 difference in price!!! That's mad! I can then get a 85mm 1.4 extra and still save £2200 The lens issue absolutely kills the Canon argument and I've been a Canon fan 35 years.

[@jessearodriguez]

Just adapt some EF Art lenses from Sigma. There are videos out there comparing the RF mount 24-70 f2.8L from Canon and the EF 24-70 f2.8 art lens from Sigma on an adapter and the difference is basically marginal, like tiny improvements in sharpness and autofocus when you go with the RF lens.

[@portraitblake]

Honestly they still lead the market in lenses sold. KZbin makes it feel like people aren’t buying Canon lenses but people definitely are.

[@kenjiyamamoto423]

EF art stupid,. is much cheaper,.

[@MohammedShello-e4q]

with these lens choices yes but canon have 35 mm 1.8 stabilized, while if you compare Sony their 35 mm lens is costs more without stabilization.

[@thomastuorto9929]

For 35 years? Prove it! You still have your AE-1 Program?😊 I do. Haven’t used it in probably 15 yrs. Still have 2 rolls of Kodachrome 200 in the fridge that is about that old.

[@daveroush4896]

I live in the Canon EOS and RF ecosystems. I bought an R6 a few months back, and love it. The R6 mark II would be one of my future choices. Or maybe an R5 mark II when they arrive! Thanks Jared. Love what you do!

[@17an28]

R5 mk 2 has arrived!

[@roganthoerson1909]

i have bought a A7IV a year ago and i don't regret it because of the glass and the system cost. My father just got the R6II he was invested in full frame EF lenses so it made more sense. That said i prefer my Tamron 35-150mm f2-2.8 than his Canon RF 24-70 f2.8. But the camera... the canon is newer and has some bells and whistles but that isn't that tremendous. Not like when i switched from the Canon 7d1 to the sony A7IV. also on noise, nowadays with pureraw and those other programs... it doesn't matter as much as in the past. if you can shoot up to 12800ISO it is plenty enough.

[@knowwork9]

So the iv is the beast as you and they said

[@roganthoerson1909]

@@knowwork9 my father is very happy with his R6m2. He has more full frame EF glass than me and that works better with the adaptor than on my A7IV.

[@_mattparish]

Going with the R8 (pre ordered back in February). It pairs well with my current R10 body with common batteries, lightweight and size compared to other options

[@_mattparish]

@AD-hv4cy maybe for your use case the Z6ii is superior, but not for mine. Using an inferior AF system, and adapting sony glass doesn't make sense for my genre/needs. Jared is a much better salesman than you are unfortunately lol

[@lewcehjitl3282]

@@AD-hv4cygood luck focusing with that Nikon. It’s fully manual. They just added AF on there new Z9 body and even then the Canon Eos R8 a $1500usd camera beats it in AF performance.

[@palepotato9364]

​@@lewcehjitl3282 TF are you talking about

[@lewcehjitl3282]

@@palepotato9364 potato cameras.

[@nickwilliams7867]

One thing you did not mention is file size. I know it does not affect everyone but the size of a Sony raw file is approximately twice that of Canons per megapixel. For me, time is money and the larger files do annoy me a little as a Sony shooter.

[@roganthoerson1909]

keep in mind that Canon is loseless compressed so you should compare Sony loseless compressed with Canon then the difference is not so big.

[@nickwilliams7867]

@@roganthoerson1909 the compressed raw of the R5 is about the same size as a compressed raw from my A9. 45mp canon about the same size as a 24mp sony

[@roganthoerson1909]

@@nickwilliams7867 ok maybe i went from a Canon 7D1 to a A7IV and file size between.cr2 and arw for loseless compressed was not even double for double the MPx. Canon might have done some improvement since the 7D1. which would be nice to have because space and backup can be costly. I also need to know that i should erase pictures.

[@icegatt136]

There is a mistake about the weight of the three cameras, the right are A7iv 658g, R6 II 670g, and R8 461g.

[@Gremlack13]

If I didn’t want to upgrade to a camera with ibis and 2 card slots, the r8 kills it all day compared to my rp which I enjoy. Of between the other two, it’s no contest that the r6ii has a much better feature set at same price point. Sony just has the mp advantage.

[@mufidbaloulli]

How are you liking the RP? I'm thinking of buying a used RP in a short while when more cameras are available on the used market

[@kavvkavisuals]

​@@mufidbaloulli get the used r instead

[@neethuandthomasphotography]

@A D R8 autofocus kills Z6II also Z6II is way too expensive , also Canon has much better lens options ..Z mount big and bulky lenses are boring also Canon EF lenses just work as seamlessly as RF Lenses on a RF Body.. You cant say the same about the Nikon DSLR Lenses on their mirrorless bodies.

[@gianniskamakas3578]

​​@@mufidbaloulli I have the RP, buy it, you will lose nothing, the pictures are always great. Ok AF is not that fast but it's extremely accurate with 30 years old EF. The highlights are not clipping so you have plenty of information. Video only in 1080p. It's good, very good, no problem with that. Just buy it and start shooting. You will earn more with this habit rather than spending money and watching other photographers (4k video never used that because of crop)

[@Yupthereitism]

The Sony is much better for video. All of its video modes are 10 bit

[@JoseRodriguez-gr2go]

I got the canon r6 mark ii and absolutely love it. My main focus is videos and it does amazing in low light. I love shooting at night now with this camera.

[@shang-hsienyang1284]

Haven't watched yet, but I would buy the R6II - and I am mainly a Sony user. The R6II is a power house worth every penny. Sony's advantage is the lens ecosystem. Funny how things have reversed compared to 2016.

[@vasusurattiantra6946]

Totally agree. I ve been using Sony Nikon Canon mirrorless for many year's just recently, I decided to sell all and get R5 it's fantastic and about to get R8 for backup camera.

[@burakburak094]

Any updates? Do you get r8? Is it any good?

[@rudyreimer302]

I've got a Canon R5, R6, and an RP. Been shooting Canon since the old film days. It's all about ergonomics for me. Function in action is what is about for me. The latest Canon bodies are kicking ass. I don't give a frack about 3rd party lenses. You want quality get quality. Done. People comment on the differences on your gear.

[@Ratbeeitch]

Tech is an endless race, (love it) with each company leap frogging it's competitors. What amazes me is how often consumers are willing to switch systems based on the latest and perceived greatest. Even though their past & current equipment accomplishes everything they need. We'll sell are equipment at a discount to buy features we'll never use or need. These cameras are so feature packed we'll for get half the sh*t it does and never use it. From the rat race to the tech race, wow, they got many of us good. 🙂

[@davidmorrison5974]

Great comparison Jared. I have both the Sony A74 & Canon R6, (which I’m just about to swap for the Canon R8). I enjoy both systems for slightly different reasons, & love having a foot in two camps. Keep up the great work!

[@pauloveza]

hey, david! how are you? Do you have any prefference between the cameras? Do you think sony is a better hybrid camera? Thank you!

[@M4TR1X]

Love that, I have an R6 but I'm planning to get a 2nd body, no matter the brand.

[@officialvisaural]

@@M4TR1Xdid you get a Nikon for the memes

[@caroldavis5921]

I switched from Nikon z6ii to the R6ii in April as I was having tracking issues when switching from vertical to horizontal. I'm a boutique school photographer so this is imperative for me. I don't have time to reset focus 3-3 times a kid, just got too frustrating. Plus the lack of lens options. I love the R6ii, but am realizing it's too big for my hand. I got a hold of the A7 iv and it fits nicely in my hand (almost as nice as the Nikon). I don't notice much difference in colors but I don't think I'm 'clicking' as well with the A7 iv. I did hold the R8 at the camera store and it felt good in my hands. I'm not willing (I think) to give up the 2nd card slot and frame rate. I like the idea of third party lenses though, with Sony. Ugh. I need a money tree so I can have both the R6ii and the A7 iv. Help!

[@bobbyrossfella3248]

I was looking at both the a7iv and r6 mark ii, instead decided on the r8. It has great internals. 24.2 mp which is good enough for high quality stills. 4k at 60 fps without crop. 10 bit. Light weight. Great in low light. Only big issue I could find is the battery drain. Honestly though, for 1k less than Mark ii and A7iv, you can afford to buy a couple extras plus spend more on better glass. For the price point, you can't beat the features this camera offers.

[@jordans2678]

Entertaining presentation! The review was good too. Haha. Was on the fence between the Sony A7IV and Canon R6M2, but not anymore. Jared, you sold me on the R6M2. Thanks.

[@majorpayne0195]

I have a lot of LP-E17 batteries that I used on my 77d which is a big plus for me of getting the R8. I'm sure that a 3rd party will release a battery grip that can take 2 LP-E17 battery even though a cable is needed to use the vertical shutter. This will lessen the "issue" of changing batteries frequently because of LP-E17 lower capacity. I'm just a hobbyist and for me, I'm ok with an EOS R8. Also, IBIS is not a big deal for me as 2/3 of my EF lenses have image stabilization.

[@killpop8255]

If you put an EOS IS lens on a Sony (or Canon) with IBIS do both IS systems work at the same time?

[@flightscapeaviationphoto]

I'm an Aviation/Airshow Photographer - the EOS R6 mkII is an absolute BEAST... BRILLIANT results. - I recall YOU once saying "Canon is going to be the sleeper in the bunch" ... well, you were CORRECT 🤙

[@fastmachinemedia]

Hi Mark, I’m a newb myself, about to pull the trigger on a 6mii, curious what lenses you’re using for aviation/air show?? I’m looking more for birds/wildlife but if you can shoot flying planes then that will work for birds!! 😂

[@flightscapeaviationphoto]

@@fastmachinemedia I use the RF100-500L IS USM almost exclusively when shooting flying subjects.

[@kifley19]

I have the R6 II and had the A7iv. I prefer Sony's light 1.4 primes like the 35mm 1.4 gm, 24mm 1.4 gm, and the new 50mm 1.4 gm. Canon RF L primes are much heavier and they have no 1.4 options as of yet. I prefer Canon colors, ibis is better, screen is better and eye auto focus is better. I also like the grip better on the Canon. Sony has more lens options but I hate their ibis and colors straight out of camera. Sony does have all-i 4k which the Canon is lacking. Both are great cameras. It's a matter of preference.

[@aaronpage3841]

As an events photographer it’s the Sony every time. The better battery and card slots is a must and far more important than the higher fps rate. The Sony autofocus is as good if not better in low light situations too. The Sony colours are awfully though and take more work in post to get right

[@gattalbe]

what do you mean with "awfully though"? in comparison to what?

[@aaronpage3841]

@@gattalbe i just find the skin tones less natural than on my Nikon/Fuji files; I know it’s all subjective and I cant point my finger to what it is in particular I don’t like, but it’s just the feel I get when looking at the files.

[@jthms_snapshots]

i love how you can always rely on Jared to give you the most detailed differences i love your work Jared you are a true LEGEND!!!!!

[@background0001]

I know that the Sony A7R V is nowhere near the Sony A7 IV but I would love a comparison of them side by side. As you said you should get good glass instead of an expensive body.

[@GrantMcWilliams]

@A D That uses Sony.... You guys are so predictable.

[@neethuandthomasphotography]

@A D He is not biased at all ..He is 100 % genuine.

[@AbHAT22]

Terrific video and comparison. Canon is following their printer ink cartridge strategy. Sell excellent cameras for cheap and rip customers off on the by selling extremely overpriced RF lenses.

[@HikingBob]

A note about USB-C charging with the Canons: The power block/external battery you use has to have "Power Delivery" circuitry which not all USB-C chargers have. Without the Power Delivery feature, the Canons will not charge.

[@albedo0point39]

All power banks and power supplies from the last few years are PD. Tried it on about 10 I own from different brands - Apple, Anker, Ugreen - all work fine. This is really a nonissue.

[@kylegoodman5196]

Found this out the hard way when going on a weekend getaway and my R6 wouldn't charge with the same mobile charger I use to charge my cell phone. I ended up finding an old work laptop charger lying around that did the trick.

[@truthseeker6804]

the issue is, it would not charge whilst recording, unless you have a very specific PD charger.

[@albedo0point39]

@@kylegoodman5196 I'm sympathetic... but if you're travelling or working with gear you should always trial it at home first.

[@Benjamin_Jehne]

@@albedo0point39 No, they absolutely aren't. The Sony can be chared with everything. Tkae the cheapest powerbank, it will work.

[@NZOMV]

Everything about the r8 is perfect but the battery life seems atrocious from what I've looked up. Yes, you can charge while filming but I'd rather my camera battery life be reliable and keep a battery pack to charge other things. (gimbal etc)

[@cpr1087]

If canon had sony's mirrorless lens system, I would choose canon r6ii instead of sony a7iv, but for the moment sony seems to me to be a better choice.

[@truthseeker6804]

you can adapt ef lenses. i couldnt find any sony wide angle full frame lens with good autofocus under 400bucks, like the canon has the 16mm f2.8

[@lewcehjitl3282]

@@truthseeker6804the adapted lenses make the camera huge heavy and deformed looking.

[@truthseeker6804]

@@lewcehjitl3282 the cameras are already huge and heavy. Then stick to a phone.

[@MarvinLloydSanico]

​@@truthseeker6804HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@sergeyzakharov7326]

@@truthseeker6804 samyang 18 2.8

[@ccolt8460]

I'm with you for the same reasons. R6 Nark II for the focus system, the card slots, the battery, the 40 fps,the ISO range, and the max shutter speed. All around it seems to have the best combination of still features and that's before you even talk about video.

[@Hodenkat]

The R6 MkII would be my choice. The grip looks nice and chunky so I would imagine it would feel much better to me.

[@kifley19]

The grip is nice and better than the A7iv

[@3483maverick]

Great video. I was ready to ditch my old canon glass and go with a Sony mirrorless. Now, it looks like the R6 MarkII.

[@AUav8r05]

I’m at the same point. Did you go with the R6ii? I’m so close to selling my EF canon glass and 5dm2 to try the Sony.

[@mcmillanvideos]

It's interesting watching this after coming back from Best Buy... I went in thinking I would buy a Sony, walked out thinking I would buy a Canon R6 or R8. The canon was just super intuitive, easy to pick up and shoot. It is fast, and to my surprise made the most satisfying sounds. Ha. They did not have the R8 on display, but since it's a little smaller, then I'm pretty sure that's what I'm going to buy.

[@alirpn]

I think that with all the great information you've given, I'm sticking with Canon 100%. I'm saving up some money and thinking of getting the Canon R6

[@phantom79]

Perfect timing with the last couple of videos.. My last camera was the Rebel xt,, started getting to know it before personal things happened and I walked away... Just recently the shutterbug has reawakened in me and I've been looking at these 3 frames... I reserved the R8 a few days ago but was still feeling a little hesitant.. I'm good now.. Glad I made the decision to move forward with the R8.. Looking forward to rejoining the world of photography,, and hopefully learning and expanding beyond what the R8 offers. We shall see. I'd drop the money for the R6 II,, but to be honest I'm afraid of dropping that kind of money and just not using all of the camera enough.

[@maximusaugustus6823]

I love the Sony a7IV

[@bigd7696]

Really? I love my wife.

[@FamilyofTech]

R8 for video sounds promising ! Especially using a light gimbal like the DJI R3 mini ! If it wasn’t for that little battery !

[@rivergate950]

GET A THIRD PARTY GRIP THAT TAKES 2 BATTERIES.

[@rivergate950]

GET A THIRD PARTY GRIP THAT TAKES 2 BATTERIES.

[@rivergate950]

@A D amazon has a few vendors search for canon RP grip

[@shadowink13]

Exactly the video I was looking for! I was trying to decide between Sony a7 IV vs canon R8. Thanks Jared!!!

[@ahmedrabea8757]

What’s your choice please

[@geohan1619]

If I would have to buy right now R6 would probably be my choice (and it will be if I'll consider to invest in a second camera) However I got my a7IV before the Canon was available so I'm sticking with it as it has what I need currently.

[@o.aldenproductions.9858]

I bought an R8. I don't do weddings OR sports so I'm not afraid of one card slot. I even still use my 80D for fun with manual Lens baby lenses I do portraits, families and dogs

[@RobDTom]

The R8 really does seem to be a great value!

[@mrwashur1991]

Until you have to put glass on it..

[@truthseeker6804]

@@mrwashur1991 ef glasses most affordable

[@DESIGNS-vo1mt]

@@mrwashur1991 😂😂🤣🤣

[@kenjiyamamoto423]

@@mrwashur1991 theres aton of EF glass out there,. and Sigma art lenses,. with super cheap prices,.

[@Henry_44]

@@mrwashur1991 that's not a problem at all, always same "glass" complaint from ppl who doesn't even use the camera lol, there's many ef glass to choose

[@TheDka1]

I do like the A7IV from what I've seen, but I've got to say that the R6II is a marvel of a camera. The speed of the sensor is amazing (I'm talking readout speed and FPS), plus the AF is really strong. In the UK it's a little pricey £2779 and I've just not got the money for the lenses I'd need, otherwise I'd probably get the R6II. I'm hoping that Sony can implement faster non-stacked sensors into their next generation of cameras.

[@truthseeker6804]

i believe its the same sensor as the r3 but they just didnt make it stacked. they both have 6k as their max video output.

[@bbsquared100]

I bought the Sony due to lens prices. It’s my first kit and I’m a true amateur and this body allowed me to get a very nice system at my price range

[@truthseeker6804]

theres EF lenses much more affordable than sony. canon has 16mm f2.8 for 300 bucks, sony doesnt have any similar price wide angle.

[@DavidBeattty]

@@truthseeker6804 There's Tamron, Sigma, Viltrox, Zeiss, and all of the other Chinese brands supporting the E mount. Canon doesn't have anything to answer to that.

[@truthseeker6804]

@@DavidBeattty "chinese brands"

[@id10t87]

@@DavidBeattty its called the ef mount adapter.

[@DavidBeattty]

@@id10t87 lol, then Sony too has access to all EF GLASS

[@melodytalks3432]

You know what it is Jared, it is because Canon's strategy is resolutely going for all round camera vs Sony's incremental approach which leaves users in disadvantage, guessing & hoping for next release to compensate. I hope Sony would change this trend....

[@nicoallison9228]

Great comparison Jared! Could you do an R6 Mark II users guide? I’m gonna be getting one within the next couple weeks and I feel like enough has changed from the R6 that a separate users guide to help me set it up and understand the camera could be helpful

[@tornado5783]

I just ordered the Sony A7RV today!

[@JohnDrummondPhoto]

If I didn't already own an R5, I'd buy the R6 Mark II in a heartbeat. And frankly the R6 II has the better autofocus and slo-mo. I'm hoping that rumored R5 firmware upgrade comes true. And dollar for dollar, the R8 kicks @$$. The cripple hammer has been officially retired from what I can see.

[@tonygerassi1502]

One note that got missed on the log video front is that the a7iv can record All-I and IPB in either H264 or H265. Canon is only H265 and IPB. Also the a7iv has better low light dynamic range with slog 2 compared to clog 3. Also just for fairness, the A7iv is a year older than the R6ii. Will an A7v review have the opposite opinion if it outperforms a year old R6ii? It appears both sony and canon are on a leap frog refresh cycle. The other thing that I preferred with Sony when I switched from canon is if you are using auto iso for exposure, sony exposes for the face where canon exposes for the scene. There are little pet peeves with both systems that could have been mentioned instead of just saying the newer model has newer technology and is obviously better than the older camera.

[@Thai.H]

Ngl you want a Gerald undone comparison your on the wrong channel

[@truthseeker6804]

no real difference between ipb and all-i only huge unnecessary file sizes. i even record in IPB compressed for extra smaller file size. exposing correctly would provide better image than depending on extra stop of dynamic range. a7iv is an older camera but still sold at msrp as sony latest midrange camera. exposure should be fixed instead of it jumping around due how bright or dark your face gets, and if youre vlogging and need that feature, just set exposure metering to center, it should work similarly. "the newer model has newer technology and is obviously better than the older camera."

[@tonygerassi1502]

@@Thai.H In that case we can just say whatever our opinions are and skip the facts. In that case, I like Pentax and it’s the best camera because etc,etc,etc.

[@Thai.H]

@@tonygerassi1502 no I'm not saying u aren't right I'm js this isn't that channel for that

[@tonygerassi1502]

@@truthseeker6804 there is no difference in quality, but there is a difference in hardware requirement to process it in editing. It depends on your preference but the point is the option is there. And fixed iso is ideal, but as a one man band filming yourself, one less work around then having to pay attention if you are centred in the frame is the helpful feature of face detection exposure.

[@gordon3988]

S5ii may have taken it…well at least for video and if so, not by much. Colors (albeit subjective), stabilization that works well (much better than Sony) and almost Sony AF (or sometimes better). All are good enough for anyone IMO.

[@adnanmansour8757]

R6ii , your video made the decision simple! Thanks

[@richbottarini86]

Just wondering if Sony would do more with their firmware update to close the auto focus if the results would differ. I shot photographs exclusively and the one draw back for me is the autofocus. Are you listening Sony?

[@richbottarini86]

@@Fostit You missed the point and made it a personal attack. The point is the auto focus is not as fast or accurate as the Canon system. You might consider you wording when responding

[@jimjimbot]

I'm a sony A7iii user for 4 years now, it work great. i'm hybrid user btw. my only complaint is the poor AWB and the LCD isn't great. but for everything else is great. now i'm considering to upgrade for A7IV, but it's so compelling to see the new R8. with less than $600 i can upgrade to a more feature wise camera. should i? lol

[@ceasarmercado6759]

Same thoughts here i also have a sony a73 and leaning towards the r8 for a second body since i have EF lenses

[@morfawbebongnkeng85]

Consider the lenses.

[@TheWillRogers]

There are aftermarket grips for the EOS Rp, which shares the same body as the R8 so I would suspect those will work. The R8 and Rp lack additional contacts for grip->camera communication so the shutter for portrait orientation is operated via a release cable (port located just above audio ports). I can't guarantee this will work, but the body is the same, the battery is the same, and I can't think of a reason off the top of my head why it wouldn't work. It's not as good as name-brand grips most of the time, but they exist. The extra grip and battery life are super nice on long days or when you've slapped a huge lens to the front of the camera, every time I've used one I'm glad I shelled out the $50 for one.

[@TheWillRogers]

@A D it depends on the grip and the camera. My D5300 grip didn't and my E-M1 grip does not block the SD door. For a camera like the R8 or Z50, ones with the SD card in the grip, yes, you'll have to at least partially remove a grip to access storage. This isn't a big deal, unless for some reason you're using weak ass SD cards that you need to swap frequently. Even shooting 4k and railing off 11fps with my Z50 I don't fill over a 512gb over the course of a day.

[@TheWillRogers]

@A D yeah that sounds about right. SD cards are cheap though, just get a Lexar pro with a high capacity and you shouldn't have to worry about it.

[@streblak2085]

I consider myself an old person (since I still listen to Nina Simone), I started taking pictures when you had to put film into a camera and there was no concept of auto focus, ISO (ASA) was determined by the film you used, with my camera 36 shots was the most you could take before changing the film. Today I have several digital cameras with varying capabilities and features, some have interchangeable lens capabilities others don't, some have high resolution others don't, some have small sensors others have larger sensors. I take my wife on game drives or into mountains or wherever and I take pictures. when I get home I look at the pictures and to hell with the camera. The bottom line for me is the picture, so, to say one camera is better than the other is futile since all I want is a good picture, I will however concede that some cameras are more capable than others but to state that one camera in better than another I believe, is folly. An individual should buy a camera based on his/her needs/requirement/aspirations/whatever rather than the opinion of others. I have 3 cameras that are capable of shooting over 20 frames a second I have never used that capability. I have one camera that has a very high resolution sensor I have taken many pictures which I cropped to get the desired result.

[@benoittissier58]

I also started photography a while ago, I have slides of Miles Davis in concert on Ekta 160 T... Now I bitterly complain about the A7iv's autofocus because it really nails focus on only 10% of my sports pictures. In the film era, 1 in 1000 of the same shots would have been great. You are right, one should buy a camera to create his specific pictures. So one may not need the fantastic technology that is available. But some do. And it is important that they get proper information.

[@streblak2085]

@@benoittissier58 Thank you for your reply. Can you imagine the Dave Brubeck Quartet with Nina Simone singing and Miles blowing his horn? I have been retired for some years now, I learnt very early in working career, to be most effective in anything I did, was to know my limitations. What irks me about many camera reviewers is their willingness to declare how one device is so much better than another rather than outlining capabilities, features and limitations of a device and allowing the user to decide which is fit for purpose. Before I buy a camera (or almost anything else) I will research using published sources, then I will go to camera store where I have established a relationship with staff, who will allow me to try the camera and will give me their honest opinion. The store I use most often employs a salesman who was a pro-photographer who specializes in Leica cameras, I have known him for about 15 years and to date he has not sold me a Leica camera. My bottom line is identify the potential and limitations then decide. Good old Jared here is nothing more than light entertainment, I was just having an off day when I watched this video and made my comment.

[@technor007]

Why should anyone be upset with you choosing Canon? It is fairly obvious anyway. I would have picked up R8 as the best performer for the price it is offered at. Canon cameras are amazing these days - hopefully Canon addresses their lenses mess soon. Most of them are just priced out of ordinary and need deep pockets to afford them. I understand their point about ensuring quality and licensing and think its a very good idea to go the M-FI apple way of licensing accessories. But they need to get do fast before Nikon comes out with more cameras and affordable lenses.

[@truthseeker6804]

@A D we need autofocus bro, why are you mentioning z6ii

[@RokDAWG1]

I’m really interested in what Sony will deliver this year. I feel like last year they scrambled to stay in the game but now it’s past due ton up their game or get left behind.

[@rollandelliott]

hold my beer, Here's a global shutter camera a9III. sony delivers, again.

[@Q_QQ_Q]

Canon is at least a decade behind Sony 😂

[@RokDAWG1]

@rollandelliott Haha yup! It's like they heard my call to deliver the goods! They did it right after I purchased my a7iv & a 6700! Haha!

[@RokDAWG1]

@Q_QQ_Q I'm not certain it's a decade but I'm definitely saying that it's years for sure!

[@uvp5000]

Despite being a hobbyist, it is encouraging to see competition between camera manufacturers. I recall when many reviewers lamented the "Canon cripple hammer". That Canon makes very competitive camera bodies to Sony is very good news for all imaging gear consumers

[@pianofinger]

@A D You are kidding right. The z6ii is slow and the focus is terrible. I do love Nikons colors though. Nikon needs to step up their game.

[@JohnDrummondPhoto]

Camera Conspiracies should get a check every time someone says "Canon Cripple Hammer". I bet if there's one regret Kasey has, it is not copyrighting that phrase. Everyone uses it now.

[@uvp5000]

@@JohnDrummondPhoto Well said. I agree.

[@energieinfo21]

In 12/2023 pricing between R6 ii and R8 was 2199 vs. 1699 EUR - difference was only 500 euro bucks therefore R6 ii was my choice due to IBIS, larger battery, better ergonomics. To be used for hybrid shooting especially HQ video with ultrawide or in low light ... Wanted to have a full featured camera which might last (hopefully if GAS isn't hitting me again) 5-10 years for 2k final products but 4k original material for "who knows what I will be doing next" ;-) Last content related remark: I use "old" EF glass due to its availability in my drawer, will maybe use FD glass and have exactly one RF lens: The RF 35 macro which will be my low light specialist if needed ... Thanks for the fair review(s) (as always!)

[@jzaydalvarez]

R6 MKii, here I come. Thanks Jared

[@naziyaali5864]

i think forgot to say that a7 IV shoot 30fps at 4k with no crop, but if u shoot 60fps at 4k, then it crops, canon r6 II doesnt crop 4k at 60fps, tell me if m wrong

[@dannythemedic]

Fro is the best camera channel!

[@kimomed1988]

Hi, how are the differences in Dynamic range for post editing?

[@Valendrizzle]

The question is if the EF-lenses focus well when adapted or if they ruin most of the focusing advantage the Canons have over the Sony.

[@MarvinLloydSanico]

This. I'm following.

[@BleepingWorld]

They work just as good if not better adapted to RF

[@MunroMcLaren]

I have a Canon 90D. When I switch to full frame mirrorless I don’t know if I want to stick with Canon and get the R6 Mark II or switch to Sony A7IV. I have been pursuing the Sony Alpha subreddit and love how the photos look.

[@auxmike718]

R8 here I come!

[@gianniskamakas3578]

In stills, I never felt the need of IBIS. If I need a slow shutter speed it goes less than 1/4 and if I want a fast one it goes over 1/125. What's the point to pay 1000€ more for IBIS (ok and 2 cards slots)

[@MauriceSchurink]

Glass, Glass, Glass The open E-mount is for me the reason why I picked Sony, as a hobbyist I wlll never get the Cannon RF L series or the Sony GM series. But a few Sigma or Tamron lenses are a lot more affordable.

[@truthseeker6804]

theres EF lenses much more affordable and many used mint condition

[@benoittissier58]

Autofocus is the big weakness of the A7iv. While detection and tracking work well, many pictures are out of focus. For runners coming towards the camera, you may get 70 % of sharp pictures in bright sunlight, spot tracking at 6 FPS. Gets worse if the light decreases, the subject has low contrast, you pick wide area. It's probably very nice for portrait or landscape.

[@harryvuemedia5106]

autofocus is subjective. Seems like you're talking about just autofocusing on 1 person rather than anything else. And besides that, what lenses were you using and what's your shutter speed?

[@brianb4501]

Interesting that now sony's AF is now big weakness all of the sudden. Did you upgrade the firmware? The initial firmware that my A7iv was shipped with AF was slow but after updating the latest version it was significantly better. Also, you need to ensure the firmware of your lenses gets updated as well.

[@benoittissier58]

@@harryvuemedia5106 70 200 GM2, 1/2000. It is one particular use case, nothing subjective.

[@benoittissier58]

@@brianb4501 Both updated, thank you for the advice. Autofocus is a weakness compared to what was said of the camera, I have not used other systems. But I should have been more careful when the Northrups got only 90 % of sharp shots for Chelsea walking towards the camera in the sunlight. They called that sports ! Mathieu Gasquet got only 75 % with softer lighting. These are not extreme cases.

[@bonOhm]

The biggest FAIL of the Canon R6ii is that it only records video in IPB (lower quality, more compressed footage) not in the superior ALL-I mode. The Sony A7iv has both options. Sony also has better dynamic range, better low light performance, better focus tracking, regular HDMI, more Megapixels, 3rd party lenses. Canon has faster fps, no crop in 4K60, better ergonomics, better LCD. Overall the Sony seems like the better hybrid (photo-video) camera.

[@lazaroantoniozundaherrera2706]

Sorry...you see the video...better eye tracking?😮

[@maximusaugustus6823]

Love the camera you're with, take good pictures no one took before. When I look at the people's photos 95% look all the same and boring.

[@michelecintramika8482]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@scruffkingman]

Knowledge is Greater than Equipment

[@headbang3r519]

Just got R6MK2 with an extra battery, i cannot wait for it to arrive. I went with Paypal credit, I just need a few months to pay if off but i selected a 24 month period in case to keep costs down.

[@inSaiyanVegeta69]

R6II stomps❤️

[@Kaho_Tokyoo]

The battery is slightly annoying with the R8, especially if you want to shoot without disruptions. I went to the R6ii versus the R8 just cos I wanted a very versatile body camera and capture moments with the mechanical shutter with the certainty of no rolling shutter, and I just dislike carrying multiple batteries. Also, IBIS in low light handheld with my standard 24-105 F4 certainly helps

[@harryvuemedia5106]

Sony a7 IV is better due to having third party lens support. If you're a canon guy, then go with canon. Otherwise, a7iv has better selection and affordable lenses to choose from. It's features are already amazing

[@rickgut2004]

I sold my Sony A7iii and bought the R6 Mark ii and love it (have a video on my channel about it). Going to stick with Canon for a while :)

[@nealwclp]

I want to upgrade/ switch from sony a7iii too. I have the eyes on R8 but my concern is battery life which is as per specs less than half of a7iii. How's battery life of R6ii using for both photos and videos simultaneously

[@rickgut2004]

@@nealwclp Battery life on the R6ii seems the same or better than the A7iii. In other words, battery life is excellent 👍

[@nealwclp]

@@rickgut2004 thnx 👍

[@baba10ye]

Checking your video bow

[@ManuelKahana]

I doubt Sony makes its own cards. I compared the Kingston Canvas card to the Sony pro: exactly the same spec, same country of origina (Taiwan). It's the same for ProGrade too. These are the exact same cards with different budges, all using silicon made by TSMC.

[@bigd7696]

Late to the party. Until recently, I've owned Fuji X, just selling the X-H2S. I grew tired of waiting for the promised great AF. S stands for speed, thats true. But sadly it became 40 fps of mostly OOF photos trying to catch a moving target. Bought an R6II recently and even with the cheapest lenses i get a massive percentage of keepers. I should have made the switch a LONG time ago.

[@CoffeeTalkandTechJohnRyan]

Having the R6mkii myself sports photography and the fact you have no crop at 4k 60fps says it all. I'm still annoyed about no 3rd party lenses though.

[@johannesschroeder5117]

Hello Jared, I had the Canon R and I missed the joystick and the IBIS. The R6 MKII is a great camera and gives me more options for my photography. Thank you for the comparison. Best regards from Germany.

[@allenschneider1847]

Excellent video. Very helpful. For a serious amateur with a priority on photography over video, doing land scape, animals, street, and grandchildren sports; would you recommend the Canon R6ii, Sony a7iv, Nikon z6ii, or Fugi XH2 (or XT 5 )?

[@macbaar6073]

As a Sony Sports Shooter for more than 10 y now I will switch to Canon r6ii and use older es lenses…. Like I used old Minolta Sony Sigma & Tamron A-Mount lenses…

[@lhnsln]

Sony Alpha's is great and a7mk4 is best for middle range, not like much R6 series Canon, will see, may be R5ii is better, but for now my choice is a7m4.

[@davezorn]

Just bought an R8 and a used RF 85 2. From Allen’s!

[@cyrilkollock]

just ordered an R8, with the known limitations im excited to see how a svelt body works out after so many 'pro' anchors.

[@ItsPinecone_911]

As a Sony shooter and Sony fanboy out of these Id choose.........the Canon R6 Mark II or the R8 over the Sony A7 VI. Dont get me wrong. I love Sony but the A7R IV, A7 IV and yes even the A7R V have dissappointed me compaired to what Canon has been putting out.....and even the Nikon Z9

[@oceansunsetak]

R8 liking it better but cannot get used the to the lack of battery indicator all you get is full charge half charge. So when that great shot appears the tiny battery goes dead with a red letter warning in the viewfinder. I am returning it for R6 mark 2. My 60D has the same battery and I have 4 spares.

[@alexmoss3228]

Previously owned and loved the sony a74. However, checked out the r6ii and it feels better and looks pretty nice. Great features and the lower res isn't that big a deal......still can't make up my mind tho

[@RoeeDori]

Would love for you to elaborate on the EF to RF adapter - why do you not recommend it? Is there a loss of quality?

[@Anderszontek]

R6 MK2 and A7IV brand new are the same price with both having discounts. Which one is a better choice now in August 2024 ????

[@SeanWonders]

I was thinking about choosing 1 among these 3 cameras! You read my mind! Thank you so much!

[@breakfastforyousoul]

@A D Nikon needs to take the z9 and create newer cameras with that and improve upon that tech. They are falling behind in autofocus miserably compared to sony and canon that is a fact. I liked my Nikon Z but I got rid of it because it just was not up to par and they need to trickle down the Z9 tech to the lower end new models or they will continue to lose even more market share. If Nikon does not shift , they may not be around in more than 5 years. Sony and Canon it seems will be the top dogs unless Nikon kicks it in gear.

[@cutefunnyanimals1457]

Nice explaination on all three camera features & function , well done buddy 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@karewenger1343]

How long time is the camera inoperative when waiting to clear the buffer after a 40 pic/s shoot?

[@ads3453]

Awesome review thank you. The only thing I am cautious of is if there is a r5mk2 about to be released with the new AF system of the r3. Then you get higher res and a great af without having to have a chunky body like the r3

[@Mr_Saw23]

I just switched from a7III to R6mII a week ago. Upon watching this review i felt better with the decision i made.