Five of the Best Gibson & Epiphone Les Paul's Compared - What are the Differences in Feel and Sound?

There’s a Gibson Les Paul for every budget but does bigger bucks just mean bigger bragging rights or is there more to it than that? Join us for a frank and full deep dive into 5 of the best and let’s see and hear the differences. WARNING: This is a full-on guitar nerd spectacle!!
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Gibson Les Paul Std 50's: • Gibson vs Epiphone Les...
Gibson Les Paul Tribute: • Gibson Les Paul Tribut...
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Time stamps:
0:00 play in & coming up
1:45 what's happening today
5:32 we start a bit of playing here
7:16 so what are they made out of?
8:34 let's weigh the guitars
9:44 we do a bit more playing here
10:25 unplugged sound tests
14:00 plugged in sound tests
15:56 let's noodle & talk about how they all feel
21:08 some more playing here
22:18 neck profiles & measurements
23:06 more neck specs
24:01 more playing here
24:24 fingerboards, frets, & nuts
25:23 let's ID & measure the pickups
26:46 and even more playing here
27:55 bridge & tailpiece specs
29:29 some punk riff powerchords
30:04 that was that... summary starts here
31:45 how do I feel about the Epi 50's Goldtop
33:27 how do I feel about the Epi 1959 Ltd
36:16 how do I feel about the Les Paul Tribute
39:22 how do I feel about the Les Paul Standard
43:08 how do I feel about the Les Paul R8
46:38 if I could only keep one which would it be?
48:54 and finally...
49:18 play out jam
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[@theguitaristas]

Correction: Pickups in the Gibson Les Paul Std 50's are actually Burstbucker 1 in neck and Burstbucker 2 in Bridge... thanks to Glenn Evans for flagging that up! 😎👍

[@larsfocken3456]

Yes, and the Epiphone 50s Standard LP has Probucker 1 in neck and Probucker 2 in Bridge. The 60s has 2 and 3.

[@franknguitars7671]

The Epi 59 also has Burstbucker 2 and 3s

[@larsfocken3456]

@@franknguitars7671 That is correct, just like the Lazarus LP. For some reason the Gibson Standard 60s LP doesn't have these but 61R (neck) and 61T (bridge) instead. I find this quite confusing. What is the difference between a Burstbucker 2 and a 61R or a BB 3 and a 61T? However my next little project will probably be an Epi 60s LP in black with Seymour Duncan SH-1 and SH-4 or something similar in white without caps.

[@theguitaristas]

@@franknguitars7671 Yes I got that right

[@adrianmorris9743]

@@larsfocken3456 Burstbuckers are alnico II magnets while 61's are alnico V. Alnico V slightly brighter.

[@grg-mpgmusic7247]

I actually blocked my schedule with a 'meeting' so I could watch this video without being disturbed.

[@grg-mpgmusic7247]

I have not found an Epiphone yet that I like and my wife would shoot me with a standard or custom shop. I do like the Tribute.

[@che2335]

Priorities

[@theguitaristas]

😆👍👍

[@tylersteward8917]

Wow you need to get your priorities straight

[@MotownGuitarJoe]

I love this!

[@standingbadger]

This is the honest and objective Gibson LP comparison the internet has been waiting for. And worth waiting for. A very important video here. Cheers!

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers man, that's very much appreciated! 😎👍

[@pbshobby4183]

Based on your earlier review I bought an Epiphone 1959 LP Standard, and the tone amazes me. The construction quality is very good and the setup fine right out the case. At $US 850 it’s a remarkable bargain. Thanks for all you do!

[@Ginanity]

Agree the price/quality is absolutely amazing.

[@Bourgeault]

I have the Epi 59 Standard and it is as good as any of my American Les Pauls. Tone is fantastic and the neck is amazing

[@dwightb8323]

@@Ginanity I wanted to buy the 59 based on the price and reviews, but I found the neck too chunky.

[@liveseytowers]

There is something soothing about these videos. Interesting to hear the differences in them. I bought a Lazarus after i bought my 2019 Gibson Standard. Its a luxury owning both but if i could revist my decision i wish i'd bought something else instead of the Gibson. It was my first one though and I had to scratch that itch.

[@StevieZero]

Same...I just bought my 1st Gibson and hate to admit that I prefer my Burny Custom& the Gibson is 3 times the price...The Burny is beautiful in every way...The Gibson is beautiful but not 3 times more beautiful...

[@Buc27blount]

This was a very thorough evaluation of each guitar and a honest assessment of each guitar. I really enjoyed it and I learned a lot about each guitar. I am glad you chose the guitar you enjoyed playing the most regardless of price or features. 😎

[@daviddawson1718]

I carry my Gibson guitars in Epi cases when I travel. The Epi case is better and way less likely to draw attention and then get stolen.

[@theguitaristas]

I much prefer them too... hard case is fine if your chucking it in and out of vans but as a carry around it's soft case all day long and these Epiphone one's are perfect 👍

[@danceswithbadgers]

Lovely though Gibson hard cases are they're useless for lugging a guitar around. My '92 Studio came with a soft case and I used that for my Junior and Standard if needed to travel with them.

[@australier263]

I'll prefer a softshell case from Thomann to carry my EPI's! Very good Thomann Chinese quality! Sold all my Gibsons for beautiful prices! This guitar is a very good semiprof 59 axe with a beautiful thin neck! You'll get a neck tuner for free! Do U need much more to play? Than take a Nick Huber or Heritage!

[@sublyme2157]

Thanks for taking us along for the journey, that was fun!

[@drabun1]

Great content, as usual. I'm a Les Paul addict so this was heaven. I have two of the five you compared, albeit a 2017 Gibson Tribute with a mahogany neck and maple cap, and a 59 Epiphone Les Paul Dark Burst (also have the Cherry Burst 59 as well). I have other Gibsons and Epiphone Les Pauls but I must say I gravitate towards the Tribute and the Epiphone 59. The Tribute has a very sweet sound and the 59 just kicks major ass. Cheers!

[@davidfagan5769]

What a brilliant review Colin, (as always!). I have 3 Les Pauls , all Epiphones, Lazarus, Ultra 3 and Gold Glory. Would I swap those plus pay the extra on top for a Standard? I don’t believe I would, as I’ve never really been able to justify £2k+ for one instrument. I’m a great believer in the law of diminishing returns! And this review kind of clarifies my reasoning. In fact, I think this is one of the most honest and well reasoned comparisons I have seen, thank you so much!

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers David, thanks for the kind words and support it's appreciated! 🙏😊 and what a great collection you have there... still kicking myself for not picking up a gold glory!

[@bonedale]

Nice work! It’s always interesting to see different pickups sound so similar when there is growl on a les paul. I’m enjoying my tribute but have nothing to compare it to, the 59 was always out of stock and was torn on just going up to the 50s standard.

[@padovann]

Awesome episode! Really well done and will help a TON of people I'm sure. Love the takeaways as well. Have a great weekend!

[@mblazer4004]

I listened to the video without watching while I was working. When I heard a tone that caught my attention and looked at the video, it was the Gibson R8.

[@radulicah]

Loved your videos and they helped a great deal in choosing a tribute over a 1959 epiphone almost a year back. What ultimately sealed the deal for me was realizing that as I'm not proficient in playing, I wouldn't really be able to bring out amazing sounds out of a 1959, but I would most likely be able to appreciate the fit and finish of the tribute. As a noob, I very much enjoyed the smell of the nitro coating, as well as the wear marks it's gathered, the frets were nicely done with no sharp edges and while it is a shallow argument, the name does contribute to the appeal. It sounds good enough to me through my lt25 amp. You summed it up great with that line "How you feel about the guitar" and while it may not have the same potential as other guitars in lower price ranges, the tribute does manage to get me off the couch and into playing. I wish I'll get good enough to the point where I'll be able to extract a guitar's full potential, but until then, this will do just fine.

[@jefftucker201]

Hi Colin, found this vid very interesting indeed. the weight difference between them in terms on Bridge and Tailpiece was an eye opener. Once again, think I made the right choice going for the Epi 59 (Lemon Burst) and will put off going for the full on Gibbo for a good few years yet! All the best mate, have a great weekend and look forward to next weeks vid! :)

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers Jeff, the Epi 59 takes some beating... and Lemon Burst too you lucky blighter!! 😆👍

[@christianl9247]

Another great video. I always look forward to your new content. Honest, down to earth, genuine reviews, with super tasteful jams and improv lines. Thanks for being on the Intertube.

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers Christian, thanks for watching this stuff!! 😆👍

[@MRoo1oo]

Thank you for taking the time to do this comparison. Your perspective on the "best" being a matter of personal choice is wise advice. Cheers!

[@jamessutherington3471]

That was the best video you’ve done Colin. Fantastic to have someone being brutally honest. I knew this was coming up so I honestly closed my eyes and really listened! I found there genuinely not a difference in all the guitars apart from the tribute that seemed a tad higher pitch? Maybe that’s down to the weight relief? Still sounded awesome though. I’m a proud owner of 4 epiphone guitars, the 59 , the riviera, SG 61 and Sheraton and I honestly love them all. I’d love to be able to afford a Gibson les Paul standard but like you said it’s just the name on the headstock to show off to your mates! Sound wise absolutely nothing in it. Great demo mate.❤️🎸👍

[@bryonkidder6199]

He just keeps getting better and better but he started from good, which, is a good place to start...lol

[@theguitaristas]

Thanks for the kind words James it's appreciated! 🙏😊

[@didamnesia3575]

Gibsons are also beautiful. So if you want the best looking gibson custom is hard to beat if the money doesn't matter. That being said... pickups can be replaced so any well made guitar can sound exactly like any gibson.

[@tedpikul1]

This was a good one. I've had a few of these and I concur with your findings. I'm currently enjoying playing my new Epiphone 59 LP Standard very much, through a Gries 5 amplifier, because (1) the guitar sounds great, and (2) it was not expensive.

[@patriotgunsmoke5010]

Love the channel and reviews. Bummed the Lazarus didn’t make the cut this time. Amazing reviews - easy and informative listening. Rock on! 🎸🤘

[@telestratblues]

Always something interesting on your channel. Even going back a few years. 🙂

[@nimost94]

As a primary player of Strats and Teles, I find myself wanting a Les Paul for the collection. This video was very informative and now I can't wait to play some to take home! I was eyeing the 60s Epiphone standards, but after this thorough analysis of audio and measurements, I may give a closer look to the Epi 50's. Thank you for this wonderful information and I look forward to digging into more of your videos!

[@Robert_Bubba_Baker]

Another great video. It all comes down to the enjoyment of the guitar. It is funny how price can dictate our happiness or how it affects our ego. Please keep it up. What people such as yourself are doing is bringing back that the enjoyment of playing is the most important thing not monetary value of the guitar.

[@squawk3120]

Thanks for taking the time to compare for us all to see! It would be cool to see the unplugged shootouts with a DB meter.

[@mikeaitken5253]

I would like to see the KZbin stats on how many times your videos are rewatched. I've watched this video about five times and it still entertains and informs. Often, when I'm considering a new guitar or have recently purchased one, I'll turn to your videos for in-depth analysis and wonderful sound clips.

[@Chessdaddy]

Those Epiphone Standard '50s are hard to beat. Even if you take price out of the equation, they're still all you could want in a vintage sounding Les Paul.

[@vanish91]

Ah yes I've been looking forward to this! It's fascinating to see that even though they differ so much in price, they actually aren't that much different as an instrument. I can't say that I'm not curious on how a Gibson feel though, when given the opportunity I will definitely try one Great video as always!

[@bobbyoutlaw8828]

12th edpRP

[@michaelchiasson9088]

You hit this one out of the park Colin! Tremendous comparison and insight. For me, with any guitar I sit down and try in the store it’s ALL about feel. I don’t even amp them until I bring one home…I’m lucky that here in Canada our big guitar store chain allows you a 30 day return for any reason. I’m not a huge aficionado of the LP, I own a 2010 Gibson LP Studio and the new Epi LP Junior you reviewed and really love! Great job again.

[@jakeerbst4073]

I just want to thank you for continually putting out such great content for guitar addicted like me. I always enjoy your films even if it’s not a guitar I’m interested in. Your passion keeps me interested.

[@theguitaristas]

Thanks for the kind words and support Jake… and for watching, it’s appreciated! 🙏😎👍

[@Gperkins]

I'm 63 and started playing 3 years ago after having played in high school in the 70ies. Been through over 30K in guitars since I started this journey in 2019. I can afford almost any guitar within reason and love buying and selling them. With my 70ies era exerience the Les Paul was an iconic must have. However when I went for the Gibson LP Standard, it was too heavy and unbalanced. It was my dream guitar but I quickly sold it. Stuck with 335, custom shop telecasters and strats that are all staples of my home studio. Dropped into my local Music Arts store and there was an Epi standard 60ies. Walked out with it for under $650 and it's the LOVE OF MY LIFE! Figured I was wrong about Les Pauls and bought an R7 Custom shop Goldtop. It's up for sale as I write this..the Epi is BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers man, brilliant to hear you rediscovered your first love too… many of us here are born again rockers! 😆👍👍 it’s also good to hear your experience was similar to mine with the goldtop and sometimes this is all you need. Glad you found us man! 😎👍👍

[@BDizzleMySchnizzle]

Recently picked up an Epi Modern and I love it. Really good tone, even on the coil splits (the out of phase option is pretty cool too). I'd say the coil splits sound even better than my PRS. Also has Grover locking tuners. Also loving the cutout on the back of the neck. Makes playing higher way easier and more comfortable. Just a really good and enjoyable guitar. Cost around 700 US. No case or bag though.

[@JHKNVY02]

What an absolutely amazing and honest video. Always thorough and direct. Thank you for the great videos and comparisons. Super informative!

[@TrickyGomez]

I've first seen your channel when you reviewed the EPI Lazarus because I had purchased one. It is my first Les Paul in all my 30 years of playing. I absolutely love it and it will be in my mix for, well, ever.... Love your approach and appreciate you.

[@USTTRM]

I owned one and still sold the Gibson and kept the Epiphone 59. From a recording stand point, I couldn’t hear enough difference to justify the Gibson Standard 60s. Great show as always!

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers Mike, they did knock it out of the park with the 59 😎👍

[@Zoso981]

I just did the same thing. I sold my 2019 Gibson Les Paul Traditional and kept my Epiphone 59. I just placed an order for an Epiphone Korina Explorer, too. I'm hoping it's the same great quality.

[@Za7a7aZ]

@@Zoso981 I still am not sure the epiphone has a real korina body or a thin korina top...could you tell me?

[@Zoso981]

@@Za7a7aZ Mine appears to be genuine Korina, it's a two piece body with a veneer on the front and back. It's a very light guitar, weighs almost nothing. Especially compared to my Les Pauls

[@simmonsjonboy3128]

If you care bout one piece neck and one piece body that is only different that and a capacitor maybe I got 3 of the Epiphone 59 burst the dark lemon southern now just need a good cherry burst and if you take the time you can polish of the satin aged finish

[@jmartini8875]

Great review as usual. Certainly glad you chose the Epiphone gold top. Lol. I don't even like epiphone pickups, but I dig the hell out of the ones you have in that guitar. They are in my wheel house. Thanks Colin. Hurry back to us. Cheers 🍻

[@hezz74]

Great vid, I must say its refreshing to hear someone being honest when I comes to guitars/branding. I have a 2018 Goldtop tribute with a mahogany neck and body that is not weight relieved, and a 2012 standard. The tribute is by far my preferred of the two which I think has got to do with its unbound neck and satin finish which after 3 years of play has a great worn in feel to it.

[@michaelszarzynski8698]

Bravo.. outstanding comparison presentation... the honest evaluation, and presenters viewpoint. Enjoyed it immensely! Thank You

[@Rogeramirez]

I recently bought my first real LP, an Epiphone Classic 2022. I had the chance to try a bunch of models and I can’t believe how good this one sounds, cheers!

[@TheFastrider76]

Just bought my first guitar, an Epiphone LP classic in Ebony finish!

[@jameseverall]

My wife got me a epi 2022 classic in honeyburst for Xmas. Absolutely love it. It sounds great, the coil tap and phase switching make it equally as versatile as a variax (which I also own one of). But the epi sounds as good as I will ever need a guitar to sound.

[@jcguitar5294]

I was really on the fence about which to buy as really wanted a Gibson model but was struggling to justify the cost. Started looking at the tribute but then fell in love with an Epiphone Les Paul standard 50s… zero regrets at half the price!

[@theguitaristas]

😎👍

[@Idontlikethisever]

Always good to hear and see you. One of youtubes treasures.

[@theguitaristas]

Thanks that’s appreciated 🙏😊

[@murraycrawford2741]

Hey Colin, I watched every moment of this entertaining video and was surprised and delighted to see that my guitar come out on top! I added the 50's Epi Goldtop to my collection not long ago as it came basically free with a package deal I got on a Fender Deluxe Reverb Tone Master. I was expecting to sell her but the neck is just too wonderful to part with! I was jaming with my friends last weekend and realized that this guitar is just superb in so many ways. Great video as usual, my friend. This is one of my most favorite KZbin channels and all because of YOU!

[@petergoddard1960]

Fabulous comparison, so good to have such honesty in a review. Brilliant ending when you pulled out the epi '61! Unlike many here I've not owned any of these and I currently have an annoying itch for a LP (I had an Avon copy black beauty back in 1973, and loved it. Cost me £40 used) and find it difficult to justify two grand plus for a Standard. So I've been looking at the Tribute and wavering. No longer, I'll try the Epi 50's standard, Custom ebony and the '59 (the lemon burst at Andertons looks the nicest). I'll also give the '61 a try and pick one from that lot. Best YT guitar channel by far. Keeping it real, man.

[@bradjkahle]

Mate - before you get the Epi - Take a test drive on the 2011 60s Tribute with P90's - IT IS FANTASTIC! I have a LP Studio too- and it puts it to shame - the P90s tribute with its lighter weight, satin body and neck --- i fly on it and the neck, its got a medium to chunky neck, so coming from usually playin strats and teles - the 60s Tribute is a godsend!

[@petergoddard1960]

@@bradjkahle thanks, man!

[@bradjkahle]

@@petergoddard1960 Dont get me wrong - the EPI 59 and 61 are great guitars - but after getting the 60s Tribute with the P90s - I just advocate that you take a test drive on Tribute before making a final decision - I grabbed one off of Offerup/FB Marketplace for $700 cash - best 700$ spent. The Tribute with my VOX AC30 w/ greenbacks (offerup for $700 as well) - i went from playing a few hours a week on my Strat and Tele with a Fender amp - to playing hours a DAY! with the tribute and vox - greatest combo!

[@davidhamilton7780]

More LPs than Tower Records! Great work Colin - always good to hear your thoughts. As a friend of mine said quite a few years ago... "This car/watch/motorcycle/guitar will be used when I sell it, so it may as well be used when I buy it."

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers David! 😆👍

[@motoramps]

Hi there! I really like your videos, you put quality and information in them. The best part is that I really relax in the great atmosphere and honesty you put into them. Congrats and keep 'em coming!

[@theguitaristas]

Thanks for the kind words that’s very much appreciated 🙏😎👍

[@chrisforever1255]

Great Video for me as an absolute Les Paul Fan! Just get a 2016 Gibson Les Paul ES Special I was searching for some years. Great concept - and so I own 4 Les Pauls now - nearly your league! Thanks a lot for your interesting video! Greetings from Germany! BTW 15.400 subscribers - GREAT!

[@richard.bailey]

I’ve got 4 Les Paul’s at the moment. 3 Epi’s and a Gibson Les Paul Studio. The 1959 Epiphone sounds by far the best of them, but I haven’t had a chance to set it up to my liking yet. So the one I reach for when I want ease of playing is the Epi Classic in worn Purpleburst. I think the 1959 will wind up being my goto Les Paul, but it’s not there yet. Will I buy a Gibson Les Paul Standard? Yeah… probably. But a custom shop? I think thats a step too far for me. Great video as always Colin!

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers Richard! 😎👍

[@vadwanuu7825]

I have an Epiphone LP Classic in worn Cherry burst. I swapped out the pickups for Seymore Duncan Saturday Night Specials and it is now my favorite guitar. I love that purple burst though! May have to get one!

[@richard.bailey]

@@vadwanuu7825 I just noticed the purpleburst hanging in the window of a local pawn shop. I got it pretty cheap. I will upgrade the pickups at some point and it should make a nice backup to my 1959.

[@didamnesia3575]

They are beautiful, but no guarantee the sound is what you want

[@audiomonster303]

This video made me pick up my 61 standard SG and jam out!

[@theguitaristas]

😆👍

[@txkflier]

I’ve owned an Epiphone Les Paul Traditional Pro II for a few years and just bought a new Epiphone SG Traditional Pro. I was very pleased with your final selections. I’m really enjoying your videos. You should have way more subscribers.

[@theguitaristas]

Thanks man that’s appreciated! 😎👍

[@NikolaiHT]

This was extremely informative. Lovely high quality editing too!

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers Nik that's appreciated!

[@joehahn8817]

You hit the nail square on the head with this one!!! Since I got my Epi '59 Les Paul my Gibson cravings are few and far between these days. What I love about Epiphones is they have all of the pedigree but none of the prissiness. The comparison between Gibson and Epiphone stays pretty close until you get to the price. Then, the difference starts to widen considerably, and like you pointed out, people start getting defensive about spending so much money for a guitar. It would also be nice to get more than three finish options on a $2600 guitar too. If they offered the '50s Les Paul in Iced-Tea Burst I just might be foolish enough to swallow that $149 hook for the next 18 months...lol. Thanks for an objective and informative commentary on such a divisive topic. Especially since you picked an Epiphone as your keeper... 😁😁😁 See ya'next week!!! 🙏☮️🇺🇦

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers Joe, you seem strong and the difference is certainly not really worth the cash but for the 'prestige' of the brand.... but I note you leave yourself a little excuse for if (when) they introduce new colours 😜 the lure of the headstock and interest free credit are strong but you must resist!! 😂👍

[@joehahn8817]

@@theguitaristas Whenever I start feeling foolish I pick up my Epi '59 and then I can't remember why I was even entertaining the thought!!! 😉

[@BobPerrone]

I've tried, I've really tried but I've never warmed up to the Les Paul. That being said - I really enjoyed your very thorough look at all the possibilities and I agree - the Epiphone models are spot on and great bang for the buck.

[@BigBobbyBoLo]

yep same here. I think they are great guitars... in someone elses hands, not mine. I think I prefer my 335

[@cramster3495]

That was an excellent comparison video, thank you. Brand profile really clouds judgement but you have broken through that barrier perfectly.

[@stevelamb6720]

I like your easy going detailed approach. Honest.easy to watch. Informative. Genuine.

[@alexgarnett5373]

Great video the best reviews online I reckon. I just ordered my R8 lefty as a treat to myself for not having many options open to me as a lefty and my girlfriend said it was the best sounding to who am I to argue? .. it arrives on Tuesday. Looking forward to the next video❤️🖤

[@chrisforever1255]

Have fun with it! I love my 2010 R8 in Honeyburst and never will give it away! Chose it out of three CS Les Pauls and the fatter neck wins! Greetings from Germany!

[@theguitaristas]

Nice one Alex! 😎👍

[@charless9011]

Great video Colin! Thanks for doing it. Maybe you could add a section where you give us your thoughts on how long these guitars stay in tune. I have never understood why an off the shelf 2000 pound Gibson typically won’t stay in tune while 400 pound Epiphone will. What sort of business model is that? 😀

[@pharmerdavid1432]

Angle at the nut, and nuts at Gibson not correcting that, or at least cutting the nut so it stays in tune better, which CAN be done - they supposedly "Plek" every guitar now, so the nut issue should be easy to program into the Plek-machine I would think....?

[@peterblackthorn3083]

Thanks for the video. I enjoyed how you can combine issues of price, value, aesthetics, specs and human psychology into simple and thoughtful summaries.

[@theguitaristas]

Thanks Peter that's appreciated! 🙏😊

[@marksagarin3398]

I really enjoy your ideas and funny personality. THanks a lot! VERY HELPFUL to me, and confirms my opinion of what I will probably buy!

[@leoh1885]

Great review, I really appreciate your honesty. I think one of the nastiest thing about the guitar community is the obsession with the price tag, or who can afford what. I'll admit I own a Gibson Les Paul Special pretty much solely for the name, the history that comes along with it, I think it looks great and because I think a Les Paul Standard would be overkill for myself. I jam with a friend every now and then, even the Special is overboard. My main guitar is a made in mexico Telecaster, that sits on a stand (not in its case for protection), always within reach, always in tune, and I've put time into making improvements and really taught myself how to fix/maintain a guitar on. I don't think I'll ever sell the Special, I love that guitar, but I've got my money's worth out of the Tele, over and over again.

[@robertweldon7909]

Ya man! I once had a Mexican built Fat Strat. I played the poop out of it and actually learned most of my "blues" on it. Mexican built Strat's were put down a lot. Really they were very good guitars. ;-)

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers man.... yep a Tele and a Special... that's all you really need right there! 😎👍👍

[@antoineveling2650]

Gibson have been in survival mode for the last few years. It’s essential they earn good margins to offset operational loans that pulled them out of a half billion dollar bankruptcy in 2018. So, they built a strategy around their strongest asset - their culturally significant iconic brand legacy (about the only value the company had back in 2018) as well as their past trustworthy craftsmanship quality (products made before the rot set in). High sale prices are a great mechanism for good margins as cost cutting may lead to poor quality. However, high pricing only works if you sell the damn stuff! So they market an indefinable prestigious value founded on their good history. The other mechanism to improve margin is through very high volume sales - > enter Epiphone to the rescue - > good quality at prices to good to be true (compared to iconic Gibsons) drives high sales and contributes to margin improvement. Manufacturing Epiphones in countries that have low cost of labour also helps margins and who cares where it’s built at those prices? They protect and add further value to Gibsons by marketing a Nationalistic catch phrase “Made in the USA”. Perfect! It’s now four years since their bankruptcy and Gibson appears to have survived with this strategy but more time will tell if it’s a real success.

[@theguitaristas]

@@antoineveling2650 You seem to know your stuff... there's some fairly hefty investments going on in building the 'brand' outside of the core business of making guitars how does that reconcile with things? is Gibson headed to become just a legacy brand selling high priced guitars to the well oiled while Epiphone carry the weight of earning the cash to pay off the loans and provide guitars that most people can afford? I'm not saying their strategy is wrong btw but worth questioning it... for instance what's this with a record label when long established record labels don't even make one these days?? Cheers man!

[@touchthesun2448]

I recently went to Guitar Center and had them pull an $8000 Gibson Les Paul down from the TOP SHELF. I pulled out my tuner and started to tune to open E and the kid freaked out! "You can't do that!" I told him to go get the manager... when they came back I was shredding...the manager pulled out a Strat and we had a great little jam. I really enjoyed it , but the point of this was to "feel" the difference between my '59 Epiphone and the Gibson. I'm even more pleased with my purchase.... now let's talk about SG's. great comparison video Colin! I always look forward to Friday coffee and lessons from Guitaristas! CHEERS!!!!!

[@standingbadger]

Open E - one of my favourite tunings. THE tuning for The Headmaster Ritual!

[@che2335]

So valuable you dont even dare alternate tune it lol poor kid

[@theguitaristas]

That's brilliant Bob I can picture that! 🤣👍👍

[@wyldbill100]

FUN video! Thank You for taking the time to do this. Working in the music industry, live shows, and having played for the better part of 45 years, I decided to purchase a 50s Les Paul Standard just like yours. Loved it and I still have it. Then my brother fell in love with the blasted thing, so I bought him one, too. (50s LP Standard) Then of course, the VOS and the custom buckers really appealed to me, so In February of this year I bought a 1959 reissue. But for me, my FAVORITE has got to be my core PRS McCarty 594... bought it used but at the time it was NEW to me. Never thought I'd actually own a genuine Gibson Les Paul in my life but life has a way of sneaking up on you, sometimes. Once again, Thank You for your pleasant chat, overview, and dedication. Quite fun, actually and PLEASE cite for us your thoughts on the Gibson LP Studio. (My nephew just might find a huge benefit in that as would I).

[@theguitaristas]

Hey Bill, thanks for comment! Since I made this I also reviewed the Les Paul studio so you will find the video on the channel 😎👍

[@jace76ful]

Love your videos man. Its nice to get a honest and fair review.

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers that’s appreciated! 😎👍

[@Edward1312]

The backside I believe is known as the upper bout Colin, its interesting that the R8 doesnt appear to have thumb bleeders but the volume knobs still seem to sit quite high above the top like it has bleeders. I think your conclusion at the end sums up how far Epiphone has come in the last couple of years. Some of the best value guitars out there at the moment IMHO. I think Epiphone are getting back to where they were in the 50's and 60's the real difference now is that most of the the brands manufacture is in South East Asia ( except for a few acoustics like the US made Frontier in Bozeman) not the US so shows how much the Indonesians and Chinese have caught up. I've been blown away by the quality of the Inspired by Gibson range and the Masterbilt reissues!

[@theguitaristas]

Hey Tony, the R8 does have the bleeders.. the pots on it are sitting very high which is maybe why they are not obvious. There's a lot of 'vintage correct' ill-fitting parts and quirks on this beast! 😆👍

[@corneliuscrewe677]

I’m actually quite drawn to the Tribute because it has the maple neck. My favorite guitar is a ‘77 Les Paul Deluxe, there is just something about a maple necked Les Paul that does scratch an itch for me.

[@dmac3316]

Fantastic video, very informative and educational. Entertaining too! Thanks!!

[@thomasbarr5940]

Best review I've watched on KZbin so far ...well done and thanks for the honesty😃🎸

[@theguitaristas]

Thanks Thomas that’s appreciated! 😎👍

[@malcolmsansom5026]

Been looking forward to this vid and you havent disappointed very entertaining and the gold top a good choice, I would have chose the epi 59 🎸🎸🎸

[@garretazonsa]

I was expecting you'd pick the Epi 59 but glad you ended up choosing the Epi goldtop because that was my mine, too. It's just too hard to justify the prices Gibsons go for. My Epi TV Yellow Special is my go-to guitar ever since i bought it in October last year. It just sounds better than all my guitars right now. This was one of your best videos so far. And that's saying a lot because all your videos are great. Cheers! 🍻

[@modernbeans2637]

I'm saving up for a Goldtop Epiphone at the moment. Looks great and sounds great, reasonable price. That white Les Paul (SG) at the end though, had me in stitches. Best mic drop ever! And now I'm thinking I need one. Great show mate.

[@folkarchive739]

Right on man! Glad you chose the Goldie! I always think a 'good' guitar is one that you connect with, feels good and one you write songs on. I recently picked up a Silvertone 1449 super cheap from Gear 4 music on a whim and it's become a go to guitar already.

[@todd1547]

I have wanted a Les Paul since I was 16. I just turned 46 and my wife surprised me with one for my birthday. She is letting me pick it out…wisely. For me, there are a few things that I associate with a “real” Les Paul. The mahogany body & neck, the humbucker sound, a flame top and Gibson on the headstock. I want a guitar that is as versatile as possible, one that I can play and gig without being afraid of damaging it and one that I can leave behind as a family heirloom. I’ve pretty much narrowed it down to a new Studio or a used Standard. The Studio has pretty much everything I want except the flame top. The Standard has a beautiful, stunning top, but is about $700 more. I feel a little stupid about paying $700 more for essentially purely aesthetic reasons and I would feel much worse about breaking the neck of the standard compared to the Studio in the unfortunate case that might happen. I originally was leaning towards the tribute, but the lack of flexibility in the pickups and the maple neck steered me away pretty quickly. Nothing wrong with the Epis and if I was just looking for a player, that’s probably where I would go, but I can’t imagine a Chinese guitar as a family heirloom. I think I’m going to go with the Studio unless I can find a sweet deal on a Trad Pro.

[@didamnesia3575]

Chinese doesn't always mean bad now. 20 years ago they were making horrible "western" instruments, and wonderful Chinese instruments. I bought a Chinese episode today, and I almost didn't because it was made in china, but I'm glad I did. It seems to made very well, has actual gibson pickups, and looks sweet. Sounds great, but gibson customs do have their hand picked pickups

[@dante316a]

I kind of new to this channel but it has become one of my favorite channels on youtube, nice job and thank you.

[@theguitaristas]

Thanks for the kind words and support… glad you found us! 😎👍👍

[@JPDevlin]

Excellent video. Would be great to see something similar with Strats and other models.

[@antoonhermans8953]

Well , from what i have learned for myself over the last 40 years : value and brandname don't mean dick to me . I have had about 8 gibson lp's ( cs , standard , classic , tribute ) and now i have an epi lp special tv yellow ( from 2020 , inspired by gibson ) with upgraded P 90 pu's and i'm just as happy with this guitar as i was with the gibson lp's . The epi sounds and play's just as good as any gibson and with the pu upgrade it cost me 525 euro , and oh yeah , i also bought an case for it for 50 euro , and voila , i dare to compare this guitar to any gibby and see if any one can hear the difference .

[@robertgallagher2226]

I've been eying that same yellow special for a while now

[@pharmerdavid1432]

While considerably more expensive, the new Gibson Les Paul Special feels/plays/sounds noticeably better than the Epiphone version, great though it is - plus the Gibson version has real Honduras mahogany body and neck, and Indian rosewood fretboard, plus better quality hardware and electronics. Maybe not worth 3x more, but definitely noticeably better to me, but ymmv.

[@BizarrePudding]

@@pharmerdavid1432 I agree... I bought a 2020 TV Yellow Epi LP Special...I swapped out the p/ups for Gibson P90s, put on an intonatable bridge, bought a case for it...it came with high frets, lousy intonation...I paid to have the p/ups switched out and to have it set up twice already.. I've got about $800 invested in the guitar When you factor in sales tax, that makes it a little less than 1/2 what the Gibson was going for at the time... Ive subsequently played the Gibson version and although the Epi is a thoroughly playable, gig-able guitar, there's just no comparison - the Gibson slays it...Sounds better, plays better, feels better, looks better, intonates better - you name it The next time I'm faced with a choice between an Epi and a much more expensive Gibson model, I'll definitely bite the bullet and go for the "real thing"...Or if I can't afford it I'll just pass on the notion completely... Just my opinion (but based on real life experience at least)

[@antoonhermans8953]

@@BizarrePudding well , maybe i got lucky , mine was perfect from the beginning ( no high frets , good intonation ect. ) but i just don't like the epi's pu's ( even the newer ones wich are better but still lack in some areas ) so i swapped them . I also don't like gibson P 90 's , there alnico 5 wich is to hot for me , for P 90's and humbuckers i prefer alnico 2 magnets , so i went for the tonerider vintage P 90's wich are a lot cheaper then gibson , lollar ect . pu's , but sound great , it really gave the guitar the sound i was searching for ( open , airy , and not to hot ) . I have bought tonerider pu's before and have alway;s liked them , they make good pu's for a not to absurd price , there not cheap , but a lot less then seymour's or lollar or frailins . For the rest this guitar has already some fine specs , CTS pots , nubone nut ect. , what's not to like about that for 400 euro's , sorry to hear you're guitar was not that well , i guess that's the thing with "bugdet " guitars , there is some luck involved , but if you you find the right one then they can be just as good as any major brand guitar after upgrading the "weaker " parts .

[@antoonhermans8953]

@@robertgallagher2226 well , then it is like janis said , get while you can ; )

[@murrayguitarpickups9545]

The Pickup readings varies quite a bit. Gibson made a lot of changes over the 4 or so years they made the PAF so a 57 sounds different to a 58 and thats different to a 59 and a 60 then the T tops after that were different again.

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers Ben.... I am on journey to understand more about what the readings mean! 😎👍

[@aussiephildan440]

Dont forget he patent sticker pickups.After pafs and before t-tops ( approx 63-67) the poor man's PAF 😉

[@murrayguitarpickups9545]

@@aussiephildan440 of course! I forgot the patent numbers!

[@murrayguitarpickups9545]

@@theguitaristas Be careful before you know it you might find yourself going into business fulltime winding pickups, its a rabbit hole mate!

[@opobadge]

Brilliant - as ever - great start to Friday night!

[@henryhartley9993]

Good honest review Colin and I couldn't hear any difference between them, they all sound great.

[@francoisdunord7169]

thanks for this comparison, it tells a lot about the sound: you don’t need to buy an expensive lp, it is more about the feeling you get. I have a gibson les paul tribute and an epiphone les paul classic, the epiphone has coilsplit and out of phase so it is fun to fool around with , grtz from the netherlands 🇳🇱

[@Jez3134]

This is the greatest Les Paul comparison ever. Finally not someone who's a salesman, and not someone who's spent their life savings on custom shop and needs to justify it. I have two Gibson Les Pauls, and two Epiphone Les pauls. The Epiphone's had better fret work out of the box by miles. I'll be selling two of them and I will keep the Gibson LP special and the Epi LP Florentine. To be honest, they all play the same, they all sound the same to me.

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers Jeremy that's really appreciated 🙏😊 my comparison can only be about the guitars I have in front of me so it's good to hear other owners of both feel the same way... helps to confirm I'm not losing the plot! 😎👍

[@austinjosef41]

Hyped for a new video. Keep up the good work

[@pete11956]

Thanks for a really honest well informed video, so much information, also I must say a very relaxing show so easy watched,cheers.

[@Dram1984]

You're dead on about the negativity around Gibson. I used to show up to jams and gigs with my Les Paul and guitarists fawned over it. At some point that completely flipped. Same me, same guitar; totally different reactions. I always considered it just my guitar but lately I've been feeling the urge to "defend" Gibson against haters. Which is odd because I never really cared about the brand that much but I get riled up when people just outright lie about the guitars and pretend they're just terrible.

[@theguitaristas]

That's really interesting to hear that... good topic for further discussion if I had a podcast! They seem to have just created such a lot of negativity with the historical QC issues (which many of us have experienced) but more so lately the blatant gentrification (If I can use that word) of their products. I think most players of a 'certain age' really want to support them, they do make some fantastic guitars and we all want to love them if only they would stop being so elitist. That seems a bit out of step in this day and age and maybe they run the risk of disappearing up their own legacy? Damn I wish I had a podcast!! 🤣👍

[@antoineveling2650]

It was several years of terrible management (which became evident in variable product quality) that led to the decline in Gibson’s brand and it’s eventual bankruptcy. From a cultural standpoint I think the guitar community at large wanted Gibson to survive no matter where individual loyalties lay because it was such an innovative, iconic company that crafted great instruments over many years. With a half billion dollar bankruptcy filed it took brave people to decide on operational lending that allowed Gibson to continue under its new CEO, James Curleigh from Levi-Strauss in 2018. Four years down the track Curleigh appears to be turning things around in a fashion that would make a great Harvard Business case study. Product quality is imperative for success as are high margins to claw back the cost of operational loans. High product pricing is their main tool to generate better margins rather than via cost cutting which impacts quality. So, when you play your Gibson and enjoy its indefinable prestige value, spare a thought how much you’ve contributed to the backers that kept this iconic brand alive for our pleasure…

[@geneevans7885]

Love the honesty on this. I agree with you 100 percent. I have an 05 epi gc special les paul, a2018 tribute and a2020 standard. All three compliment each other. Although the standard has that full sound imho, the tribute has a certain mojo and it just keeps growing every day.

[@slates1969]

Another great video. I love your presenting style...very relaxed. Like talking to a best mate that loves all the nerdy stuff about guitars that we love 👍👍👍

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers man that's very much appreciated! 🙏😆

[@brentbeltz8968]

Great video sir, as usual! I think you stumbled on a great “tag” for a line of merch: “Let’s get Nerdy”. I don’t know about everyone else but I sure need a coffee mug with that on it!

[@BrianNavalinsky]

Excellent idea. "Let's get nerdy." And a picture of Colin with that upraised-brow, judgmental look on the other side. Best reviews on KZbin.

[@theguitaristas]

Hey who are you calling judgemental?? 🤨

[@BrianNavalinsky]

@@theguitaristas I love that look.

[@timothy5974]

Fantastic work my Friend, great detail. I’m in my later years and fiddle my knobs at home so I’m going for the 50’s Epiphone Gold Top. Your welcome, your even cooler now that I know you ride 🤟🤟

[@theguitaristas]

Thanks Timothy... bikes seem to be a common shared passion between guitar players and both have been in my blood since my teens. 😎👍

[@usef911]

A truly objective and may I say most enjoyable review I have seen of Les Paul guitars so far. Because of your review I was able to decide on my first Les Paul; I pulled the trigger on a Tribute. Thanks and keep up the great work!

[@theguitaristas]

Thanks Yousef! 😁👍

[@evalex71]

Great video, love the channel. Would love to see you review a Les Paul Classic

[@attilatapolczai9541]

Great work. I appreciate the relaxed yet humorous approach of your videos and how you cherish each piece of instrument. Oh, and I love the shameless C sharp solo on the A minor chord progression.

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers man, yes some interesting dissonance there but it’s Frank Zappa and if he says it works who am I to argue!! 🤣👍

[@attilatapolczai9541]

Oh, I see, so it's Zappa! I didn't know that. 😂 I recognized the Pistols riff though.

[@coffeerocker1429]

Been waiting for this one!

[@grahamroden8897]

Fantastic and informative. I couldn’t hear enough of a difference between them all to make an informed decision. The Epiphones really are fantastic guitars now.

[@gergemall]

We meet again my friend . Found your channel last night and love it.

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers Jon, glad you found us man!

[@MrYatesj1]

Love Your work Sir. I have been a Fender guy for about 20 years but started to get an itch to put a LP in my collection. Saw some of your resent videos on the Epi "inspired by" and thought what a great way to get close without breaking the bank. Well I stated with a used 59 loved it, then I saw a used 60's and right after saw a used 50's Gold Top. Nabbed them all for under $400 each on average (the 59 was a bit move of course). Modded one of them with push pulls and feel I am covering a massive LP tonal spectrum for less than half the price of one proper Gibson LP Standard. It was your break down of the new Epi's that got my juices flowing and with some luck on the used market feel like a King owning 3 of them. Keep up the Great work!! Be Well

[@theguitaristas]

Nice one Jess!... thanks for the comment and support man 😎👍

[@Blues-man.]

I happened onto your channel, when looking for reviews on the Epi. 59 les Paul, so glad I did you have honest and informative reviews, you also are a fantastic musician ! Thanks so for your advice.

[@theguitaristas]

Thanks man that’s appreciated glad you found us! 😎👍

[@JimRPickens]

Thank you for this video. I have always wanted a Les Paul since I was a teenager watching Gary Rossington of Lynyrd Skynyrd and other Southern rock musicians of the 1970's and learning what I could of what they were playing. The problem was I could never afford one and bought cheap knock-offs though the years. I currently have a Epiphone and love it but I still want that Gibson Les Paul standard 50's. Now, I am fortunate and blessed, after a lifetime of working (not as a musician, that's just a hobby- or dentist or lawyer LOL) I can afford to get one. I saw all these other models and didn't know what was what but you expertly cleared it all up for me in your videos, again thanks. I want the Gibson just because I do, maybe I am nostalgic for my youth and that era of music, I don't know. I know I love the music and will love playing through the Les Paul Standard and finally as you said, "experience that, nothing else will really do".

[@AbbeyRoadDuluth]

Great comparison! I bought a slightly blemished one of those Epiphone LP 50’s Gold Tops for $350…and put in an upgraded wiring harness and Seymour Duncan Antiquities…and it’s the best guitar I have ever had. There is just something magical about it. Glad you agree!!

[@coffeerocker1429]

Colin, an outstanding straight shooting study of these guitars. I've commented to you previously I bought the Epi 59 after your video series on the model. Congratulations extremely well done. I think what I am most stoked about is that the video makes me feel bloody happy to own an Epiphone yet still wish to own another Gibson but has given me enough knowledge to make choosing a Gibson model easier and more confident in buying and playing one that suits me rather than the most expensive. Thank you for a 1st class, enjoyable commentary. Love the channel. Cheers Glenn from Oz.

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers Glenn, glad it’s useful mate thanks for the kind words and support it’s appreciated! 😎👍👍

[@MichaelBLive]

that was super fun. i just bought the epi goldtop after the 60s in black. never been happier with 2 instruments. thank you sir!

[@KnoxCoRailfan]

Hey Colin! Outstanding review thanks for all the hard work you put into this video. I miss my Epiphone Gold Top Limited Edition Les Paul Traditional PRO. I own the Gibson Les Paul Tribute now & I love it. But I'm still looking for a Gold Top too...Lol

[@Sammywhat]

Great vid, Colin! And really nice editing, too! From my icon, you can tell the Les Paul is near and dear to my heart. As a lefty, it's nice to have this kind of in depth look at these beasties... simply because I'll never have the opportunity to compare as you have here, this is a welcomed effort. I trust your opinion. Especially when you say they aren't a million miles apart. Still, an R8 or old Gold Top would be nice to own.... someday. Thanks for the share!!

[@theguitaristas]

Cheers man! 😎👍👍

[@guitarandcamera3392]

Was watching this video while I did set up on my Gibson Les Paul Classic. When I was finished, caught my self that I’m jamming along with you (dry, unplugged). 😁 Great video man. 👍🏼

[@theguitaristas]

😎👍👍