Five Reasons To NOT Become A Family Nurse Practitioner

The Family Nurse Practitioner is a great profession, but NOT if these 5 reasons pertain to you!
1. If money is your #1 reason
2. Becoming a Family Nurse Practitioner because it's "marketable"
3. If you're interested in a Hospitalist role, in-patient medicine, psychiatry, acute, strictly pediatrics, or neonatal
4. If you're not a self-learner
5. Not a peoples person
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[@jeanlanz2344]

Wise and insightful advice given in a humble, gentle way. Thank you and God bless you.

[@hopefulsoul728]

Thank you. I graduated a very long time ago, I never had the opportunity to work as a NP. I am seriously contemplating using my ANP, I know I will require additional clinical hours and apply for certification. The thought doesn’t bother me or intimidate me. I want to work in post-surgical management, that is my area of specialization thus far. I appreciate the video. I didn’t get into nursing for money, I am not worried about that, at all. Yes, there are nurses in it for the money, unfortunately. I feel bad for the sick that have to deal with them. I will subscribe to your channel. Take care and thanks again!

[@RNScrub]

Good stuff. There’s a lot of avenues when it comes down to NP’s.

[@Meelo]

Solid video man! I’ve just been accepted into my FNP program! Looking forwards to more videos from you!

[@ahmedmirza3458]

Awesome! Congrats!!

[@coupleofnps1667]

We just came across you page! I really like your insight!

[@robhambly3224]

Good info. I’m in an online program and you nailed it!

[@devinhaneline9789]

I start FNP program Monday. Anxiously excited and scared. Thanks for the videos and information

[@ahmedmirza3458]

Nice! Good luck with school. Don't be afraid to ask a lot of questions, especially during clinicals

[@RNScrub]

Congratulations!

[@successfulnp8099]

Good luck

[@juniejones9200]

How is FNP school going?

[@KMacFNP]

I know an NP who works with a Neurosurgeon and he makes $175k a year.

[@christinaandre6286]

As an FNP I have learned that medical companies know your scope and demand you do EVERYTHING within your scope, and sometimes more. Post COVID there is a provder shortage and FNPs are being expected to function as internal medicine, which is stressful if you do not have the training or background to do that.

[@sophiak.martin2820]

your guidance and advice has been very helpful. i’ve wanted to go back to school for so long but wanted to do women’s health np and initially people said it would be better to do fnp but i’m love womens health. thanks you’ve helped me so much

[@ahmedmirza3458]

Go for womens health NP if that's where your heart is set!

[@logangeorge4096]

Chase your dreams

[@fjbrown92]

Wish I’d seen this 2 years ago. I’d have gone to AGACNP instead of FNP

[@MrTruerythmn]

Hi Buddy!. If I were you, I'd go for both women's health, and fnp. Because that way, when you deliver babies, u can instantly become their Fnp! You would be able to have patients from the womb to the tomb! Hope this makes sense!. What do you think?

[@ifaashakarchi4972]

You r an inspiration . Thanks 😊

[@jaeeunlee214]

Hi I'm preparing for going to USA as a nurse from South Korea. I love your video which is so helpful :) Can I share this in my personal blog? Thanks.

[@Gggvf3644]

Good to see K-rn! 여기서 뵙다니 반갑군요🫡

[@John-rb7zo]

If you could go back, which specialty would you choose?

[@MP-nj1qy]

Do you know if there’s any program that offers both acute care and family practice education in one degree? Please and thank you

[@Maka20537]

I just graduated with my FNP. My challenge is the pay cut lol. I am still working as a RN urghhh

[@wanelly]

Are you still working as RN or FNP pay got better, and you're happily doing it.

[@Thenurse_jay]

Great vid. I did some soul searching on this topic and still came back to FNP. I want to work in Urgent care centers and ERs, plus I see more locum positions for FNPs than anything else. I would hate to get a ACNP and only have the option to work at the 1 ER in my city that doesn't see pediatric patients

[@ahmedmirza3458]

Thank you! Yeah FNP is your best bet for ER. It's a tough job market to tap into. Start working in the ER as an RN if you're not already. Make connections with the ER physician group to help you get a job when you graduate

[@Thenurse_jay]

@@ahmedmirza3458 That's the plan. If that doesn't hit, I have no problem working urgent cares for a year or two to cut my teeth as a new NP. A ton of the urgent care/pain medicine places in my city are VERY new grad friendly

[@ahmedmirza3458]

@@Thenurse_jay sounds like a good plan. Urgent care is great experience

[@chrissams763]

Check your state board rules 1st. Most states I’ve seen FNPs can work ER but only fast track. If the patients are sick enough to need admission that’s out of FNPs scope of practice. This is why ER-NP programs have begun or hospitals are specifically wanting ACNPs. I’m an AGACNP covering ICU. My new grad offers started at 125k, after 1yr I’m now making 175k/yr. FNPs are oversaturated and underpaid, no disrespect just a fact

[@Thenurse_jay]

@@chrissams763 There's only a few ER-NP programs in the country from what I can see, none anywhere close to where I am. I would plan on taking the ENP post masters cert (which I believe requires the FNP). I wouldn't try to work ER as an NP without the emergency certification

[@MP-nj1qy]

I’m a medical lab scientist and I want to go back to school for nursing with an end goal of nurse practitioner. I love working with people. I used to be a pediatric phlebotomist before I completed my bachelor degree in science and I loved it. I want to apply my current knowledge of lab results and blood banking that I acquired along the years. I’m thinking nurse practitioner will be a good fit, but now that you mentioned acute vs. outpatient, I’m not sure which will best fit my career path. Please give your input. Thanks in advance

[@ahmedmirza3458]

If you want to work inpatient then do acute care. If you want to do ER, urgent care, or primary care then do FNP.

[@MP-nj1qy]

Oh ok, thank you so much.

[@therealbusterofbeards7565]

If you’ve already got a bachelor degree (especially in biology/science) i would just go to PA school if I were you

[@ruthannemackinnon588]

Not unusual to take a pay cut initially but most Nps will eventually make more. That was my experience.

[@urgentcaredr]

Experienced NPs make more than 300k++ in my area. Amazing! Can’t wait

[@ruthannemackinnon588]

@@urgentcaredr with experience & especially in specialties. My first NP job in a rural primary care clinic I was literally the lowest paid NP in my state for 1.5 yrs

[@graysonkemp8870]

So say you did do a post doc certification in psychiatric mental health. Would you then be able to prescribe psychiatric drugs for a complex outpatient psych case? And would you then be able to make mental health diagnoses? Assuming family nurse practitioners don’t have the ability to already do that

[@ahmedmirza3458]

Yes, doing a post masters certificate in psychiatric mental health will allow you to do anything in pysch. Both inpatient and outpatient. So depending on your experience and comfort you can manage many psych conditions.

[@graysonkemp8870]

@@ahmedmirza3458 cool, thanks!!

[@joannawade6452]

Most folks go to FNP for psych stuff......only get referred if complex or...... on a controlled substance (Xanax, Ativan etc)

[@pcdihealth]

Thanks for sharing the information

[@janicavalen3753]

Hi Ahmed! I'm just wondering how did you get preceptors for your clinical?

[@ahmedmirza3458]

I called and emailed a lot of clinics. I also reached out to people I know and work with

[@rosem6573]

Do neonatal nps work in Outpatient or mostly in patient? I want to work outpatient, that’s why I’m leaning towards fnp.

[@ahmedmirza3458]

NNP's usually work inpatient in the neonatal intensive care unit from my understanding

[@louiseparayno6814]

how about being a dermatology/ aesthetic nurse practitioner, any idea which program should I choose?

[@kaylawalker5265]

I’d say FNP since you can work in dermatology with that NP certification. You technically can work in aesthetics under any of the nursing specialties, you just need special training and certifications to do so. You’d need aesthetic nurse certifications with FNP as well.

[@dreeze982]

I agree

[@NotWithinNormalLimits]

I understand that NP’s can start $80-$100k, but will your income increase over time as you gain experience? Future opportunities that pay more as you gain experience?

[@ahmedmirza3458]

In general yes. More experience will open up better opportunities. It may mean you'd have to switch jobs.

[@joannawade6452]

Nurses currently making just as much money as NP.... no sign on bonus for NP but if you work OR, ER, ICU, OB can get up to $25k sign on bonus

[@electronicfellows2113]

@@joannawade6452 New grad RN salary is $25/hr. Where are nurses making as much as NP...?

[@joannawade6452]

@@electronicfellows2113 New grads make ~$30/hr. Experienced nurses $40-45/hour. No new grad is going to make as much as a nurse practitioner. I was speaking generally about nurses - with experience - that are making 80-100K a year returning to school for NP then making just as much and in some cases less. Sure, I live "around" counties that are suppose to be the "riches" in the United States (I don't buy that...) Loudoun County/Fairfax County, VA.

[@zakariyadar5613]

Are nurse practioners provided with housing benefit?

[@edithdzigbordi568]

Hi what’s the difference between a general nurse practitioner and a family nurse practitioner

[@ahmedmirza3458]

Technically there is no such thing as a general Nurse Practitioner in the US. Everyone has a specific field. Family is one of the most common NP tracks and can see all ages. But mainly for outpatient care.

[@dobermangroundzero82]

My goal is to work as a per diem FNP! What is your tought?

[@ahmedmirza3458]

Sure, that can be done. Many do it

[@Kanekcc0]

Once I am a RN I can further my education to FNP?

[@electronicfellows2113]

yes

[@beiwang9053]

Why online programs are controversial?

[@lisettediazdeleon3715]

Can an FNP work in critical care settings?

[@ThePerpetualStudent]

They can but they shouldn't in my opinion.

[@Solomeo_Paredes159]

I have almost 2 years unnemployed. I am unable to find any np jobs. All of them are requiring 3 years of experience. I was rn 7 years, then new fnp. After one year or active search, and travelling to my own expenses to near rural places, i was not hired. I applied to rn roles, but nobody wants to hire me as rn because i was out of hospital 4 years. Most of my time i was rn in public health. I don't know what to do. What can be a switch career for me? I got 3.95 gpa in my msn. I love to learn. I wanted to be a fnp too much. I was a physician in my country and i emigrated with a lot of dreams, but all my efforts are nothing. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 i would like to get a dnp or maybe study another career, but i don't have money. I am a failure

[@kdom1234]

Have you considered active duty Air Force or reserves? They need FNPs. Decent salary, educational benefits to get your DNP, good quality of life. Might be worth considering! I believe reservist NPs also get annual bonuses.

[@Solomeo_Paredes159]

@kdom1234 i applied, but i have 50, their age limit is 46, still unnemployed

[@foxbud3886]

good content

[@SaisaiDemigodess]

I start my DNP-FNP in August. Do you think its worth it?

[@ahmedmirza3458]

Depends... 1. Your why for becoming an FNP? (something beyond money should compel you) 2. How much you pay for school? (don't pay for than 50K) 3. What kind of job do you want? (FNP is mainly outpatient except for ED.. there are some exceptions) 4. How much you want to make? (expect to start off 80-100k Answering these questions will help you make that decision. Its different for everyone.

[@joannawade6452]

No

[@joannawade6452]

No

[@SaisaiDemigodess]

@@joannawade6452 what are your reasons?

[@joannawade6452]

Hmm....do you want to teach? If not then I wouldn’t waste the time or money. There is nothing in a DNP program that I would use in my practice now. I don’t need another research paper or statistics class or to drop another $20k. It confuses the patients too. No one I know is getting more money for having a DNP. Obviously we don’t know each other and these are my thoughts on the whole thing....... I know. I have heard. “ all NP programs should be doctoral” but no program really gives you what you need “hands on” fellowship Until they develop a useful DNP program I’ll pass.... right now it is a money maker for academia.....

[@jm-te2nr]

First year Psych NP 120K

[@SaisaiDemigodess]

Yeah psych NP make bank.

[@oyato1]

Do you enjoy the work as a psych NP? What are some of the pros and cons? Especially the scary stories/ situations

[@ronaldmoore6619]

Hahaha psych?? Have fun with that. $120,000 they will have to jumping.

[@jm-te2nr]

@@ronaldmoore6619 prison system. See about eight to ten per day

[@jm-te2nr]

eleven to twelve on rare occasions and will be all follow ups

[@austinpatteson2136]

Psych NP might be more marketable.

[@joannawade6452]

Market is saturated with psych NP.......stay a nurse.....start a home healthcare business.... decent pay, rewarding and autonomy

[@kramerb3758]

There’s still money working as a bedside nurse . Besides , bedside nurses are indispensable because there is a need. There are a lot of clinics and urgent care centers shutting down. New FNP hardly can get a job nowadays not unless you are well experienced and credentials are good. Competition is high also in getting a job. I see new grads FNP who are not even that great at the bedside so I am concerned how well they can be independent practitioners.

[@ahmedmirza3458]

I agree! Especially with the current travel RN pay rates. It's becoming harder and harder finding a job as a new grad FNP.

[@richierich24d26]

Being bad as a bedside nurse does not translate to being a bad NP. Also, U can’t compare the pay of a new grad NP to a seasoned travel nurse. Compare that to a seasoned locums NP. That easily trumps the pay of a travel bedside nurse. Most nurses become NPs due to a desire for a role change. More authority, autonomy, and the feel of a provider. As we age, that becomes more appealing. Imagine being 50 and still hustling at the bedside??

[@wanelly]

​@@richierich24d26, there are other options RN besides bedside. Marketing, case managers, unit managers, etc. Plus, at 50, any job is hard. 😂

[@richierich24d26]

⁠@@wanellylol true but the bedside hustle will be different at 50, especially if you’re in med surg. Case managers and unit managers are 9-5 mon to Fri gigs and your salary is pretty much set. Marketing isnt very reliable and is unpredictable. Travel nurses’ checks make these types of nurses look like beggars. But to discourage people from becoming an NP due to this is a bit harsh

[@wanelly]

@richierich24d26 is going to FNP school at 50 really reasonable? And especially if the said RN has had over 15yrs of experience? Return on money/investment and the stress level, I'd say, isn't worth it.

[@annettecuke7523]

The million dollar question: Do you enjoy being a FNP? Was it a good decision for you?

[@ahmedmirza3458]

I do enjoy it overall. I think it was a great choice.

[@mariacarbo1409]

Yes, that is the important question. I'm doing the FNP because I love Medicine! I know maybe i will not earn 100.000 a year, but that is not the main reason!

[@davidcantor293]

You can still be good at your job even if you are just doing it for the money.

[@bdemir837]

What is your nation you looks like Turkish

[@williambeatty7781]

The NP profession is saturated with on-line diploma mill grads ! Do something else !

[@electronicfellows2113]

which RN makes 80,90, over 100k/year?

[@joannawade6452]

If you have been a nurse long enough you are making at least 80-85k a year in Northern VA. Factor in retention bonuses extra 5-25K a year.

[@electronicfellows2113]

@@joannawade6452 well.. it depends how long ‘long enough’ is. considering the new grad RN pay is $25/hr (in texas) = 43.000/year, the thought of potentially getting to 80k/year after 20 years of practice isn’t that great. so.. how long is long enough? maybe time can be saved by doing NP school and getting that 90-100k in just a few years vs. waiting ‘long enough’ to get to 80-90 as an RN 🤷🏻‍♂️. I know, nobody can give exact figures and timeframes, it’s a pretty vague topic.

[@joannawade6452]

@@electronicfellows2113 Yes, and there are many factors etc. I can say that my grad school only accepted RN's with at least 5 years of experience. At that time I was making 78k with overtime 80-82k. I was a nurse for about 10 years. My son has been a nurse since 2009. He travels and make A LOT of money...$3500 week. He works in the cath lab. Nursing is not what is was when I started and I have seen it slowly decline. That being said....the grass is not greener on the other side as an NP. It is a new set of stressors/pressure. On top of student loan dept..... Just my opinion and honestly....If I could do it over - I would go to PA school and work in the OR:) But then again....I do love being a nurse :)

[@electronicfellows2113]

@@joannawade6452 Thanks for the insight! I just graduated and the starting salary is scary low.. but i understand that will change with time / specialty / certifications. I am interested in travel nursing as well (because great $ and i love traveling / get bored in one place easily) - so that should be fun! Will possibly keep the NP option as time goes by and i form a better opinion on options while working as an RN. Cheers!

[@annb4013]

Northwest RN,s are frequently making > 100k (and they leave while I’m still working😌) - seniority and good contracts

[@themr2005]

Don't do it for the money, because there is no money in it. It's over saturated with online degree mills. If you're going to do an advanced practice nursing degree for money, do psych or crna.

[@celebrityvideos2594]

Do you mean Rn make almost the same as NP

[@MrRealdeal713]

And 2 years later and it’s not any better

[@jamie5mauser]

Outpatient internal medicine sounds like an oxymoron 😵

[@rationalirrationality5691]

Agacnp all day

[@darkherosolidox]

if your not a people person, why the hell are you even a nurse let along a np?