FIVE REASONS You'll Regret Not Buying The Alpine A110

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JayEmm on Cars

JayEmm on Cars

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@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 2 жыл бұрын
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@CathodeRayNipplez
@CathodeRayNipplez 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, Enjoyed that. 👍
@misterpacha1
@misterpacha1 2 жыл бұрын
U need to review the new models gr and s. They are trying ro Give us options. Dont deny them their opportunity
@Gearbhall
@Gearbhall 2 жыл бұрын
As an American, I don't regret not buying one, I regret that I can't.
@misterpacha1
@misterpacha1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gearbhall yeah what about the hyundai i20n and also the i30n and the totota gr yaris? Sad
@PhilSlater-t8h
@PhilSlater-t8h Жыл бұрын
I bought a GT 6 months ago, I've had 911s, Maseratis and S car audis, last one was a C63 Mercedes. This is by a long way the best car I have driven. I'm 6' 4" and whilst it's snug I can do 500 plus at one sitting comfortably. I've only ever seen one other on the road, it just feels so special. People complement you on your good taste (all the Porsches I owned were vandalised) it's a very special car, plus I live in the Highlands of Scotland, we have THE most amazing roads!!!!!
@2011SoxMD36
@2011SoxMD36 Ай бұрын
I’m still surprised that I saw four in one place yesterday… I’m used to seeing three, maybe four a year? If I was in the market and could be convinced not to buy a secondhand Vanquish, I’d definitely give an Alpine a look though. Always liked them. Glad you’re enjoying it!
@markrrrrr9726
@markrrrrr9726 2 жыл бұрын
I have an A110. Best car I’ve owned. I’ve also had many 911’s inc 2x GT3RS. I’ve been lucky and had 4 Ferraris and a McLaren. A110 gives a far more enjoyable and attainable drive. Another bonus is that I have yet to be raped by the dealers for a service. Add the Life 110 geometry alterations (a free download and roughly £100 to do at your local garage) and add the larger Life 110 paddles, these minor changes make the car even better. You are welcome to try mine James.
@VK6AB-
@VK6AB- 7 ай бұрын
Interesting comment, I've owned a lot of good cars (+20 Porsche) and did five seasons of Carrera cup, currently own a 991.2 GT3 RS, 296 GTB, 600 LT (in BC), 720S and 981 GTS - I thought the Alpine was OK in the twisties not outstanding and let down by a poor engine and gear box. There is literally no comparison to something like a GT3 RS. Its nimble, but so is a Cayman and the Cayman 981 onwards has a far, far better engine (even the turbos are way better e.g 420Nm - 380Nm Vs 340Nm) and gearbox and is a much more liveable real world sports car with far better fit and finish. Personally, I couldn't get my hear around the Alpine price point and why do the R, it simply gets destroyed by real track capable road cars. The bottom line is the Alpine was let down by overemphasis on weight loss rather than being a sum of the parts superstar.
@KennethMcLeod
@KennethMcLeod Ай бұрын
@@VK6AB- Nah, had similar cars to you (although not Porsches as I don't like them) and find the A110 one of the best cars to drive. It is a 1.8 engine that has *useable* power, if you are using it on the road, there is little will keep pace with the R. On the track the bigger BHP stuff will muller it, but if you wanna do track stuff, buy a track car.
@VK6AB-
@VK6AB- Ай бұрын
@@KennethMcLeod Its a very ordinary engine and that is the heart of a car. Hard to beat the NA flat sixes.
@Diphito
@Diphito 2 жыл бұрын
I worked 2 years and half on this car, so proud of it, so proud of the radical version
@hyweltthomas
@hyweltthomas 2 жыл бұрын
In 47 years of driving, the best car I have ever owned. Porsche for the brand, Alpine for the driving
@maddocmucmaddocmuc5341
@maddocmucmaddocmuc5341 4 ай бұрын
And Lotus for fast Driving….😂
@hyweljthomas
@hyweljthomas 4 ай бұрын
@@maddocmucmaddocmuc5341 Depends on the road, the Alpine is definitely more connected on crappy roads. (3 years Elise, 2 years Alpine)
@hyweljthomas
@hyweljthomas Ай бұрын
@@maddocmucmaddocmuc5341 I've owned both and the Alpine takes that one too.
@marcelromijn2227
@marcelromijn2227 2 жыл бұрын
Really well put together and very good reasoning. I'm driving a A110 Legende since a few months (which is now known as the GT). The 252hp and a bit more outdated infotainment system are the only real differences. Took on business trips, family visit, normal commute with traffic and many "long-way home" trips. When I test drove one I was sold in 15minutes - its not annoying at all to drive on the highway, in the city, etc. and it has the comfort features for it (it even has a rain sensor and heated seats!). Its even really fuel efficient on long trips. Find some curves and the joy starts; don't worry too much about potholes and (speed)bumps, its fun even at legal speeds, you feel the car rotate around you, etc. A sportscar that doesn't scare you but gives you fun instead.
@supersilvers
@supersilvers 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been thinking of getting one of these recently. If Gordon Murray uses it as his daily drive it must be good!
@leoa4c
@leoa4c 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling their value will go through the roof in 20 years. Good investment.
@anteeko
@anteeko Жыл бұрын
"If Gordon Murray uses it as his daily drive it must be good!" really? that's crazy
@peterboczan6251
@peterboczan6251 Жыл бұрын
Gordon is a big guy (About 6 ft 2") who likes his cars to be small, light and well packaged. Which is no bad thing.
@gc12gladiator
@gc12gladiator 2 жыл бұрын
Since I got one (in GT form) last April I couldn’t be happier and this is coming from a current « supercar » owner. I genuinely love this car especially when driving on UK’s small and bumpy roads. Recently drove it all the way to the south of France through Swiss, Germany and Italy. Even at full speed (there is a limiter around 256km/h) it never felt unsafe. It only is quite sensitive to high wind. Very old school in that way. Great little car it is
@chucku00
@chucku00 2 жыл бұрын
"It only is quite sensitive to high wind." Real Alpine legacy. Jokes aside, the original A110 was quite frightening on highways because of its lateral wind sensitivity. But it has never supposed to be an highway car.
@angelarnaudas
@angelarnaudas 11 ай бұрын
+1
@styre
@styre 2 жыл бұрын
I really think the A110 is a brilliant car that's a bit misunderstood in the modern buying market. Similar fate to the Alfa Giulia QV .
@wimclaessens6246
@wimclaessens6246 2 жыл бұрын
I took my Alpine (base model) to the circuit of Zolder in Begium. I invited my friend who had never driven the car, nor has he driven on this circuit. I have a bit of experience on the circuit. At the end of the day he was 2 seconds off my time, that’s how good this car/chassis is.
@bitmen1296
@bitmen1296 2 жыл бұрын
It pains me that I can't get this car in the US. The Alpine A110 looks like such a fun and beautiful car. I have a 2019 Miata RF, but the thought of something that's lighter, more powerful and mid-engined sounds amazing.
@augure2589
@augure2589 2 жыл бұрын
I own a "Miata” in France, definitly not the same category. This is a Cayman eater, little MX5 only eat Toyotas.
@Inferiis
@Inferiis Жыл бұрын
@@augure2589 it is the same category, just not the same spectrum of it. MX5 is the bottom end of tiny but light sports cars, A110/Elise are the higher end. Obviously more powerful, but also more expensive.
@simonhurlimann908
@simonhurlimann908 9 ай бұрын
Miatas are also very fun. Especially when dropping the roof. A110 is more of a serious and fast sportscar yet still very fun to drive
@davidthirtle6318
@davidthirtle6318 2 жыл бұрын
I love my 110S, just came back from a 3,000 mile Eurotrip in it, absolutely sensational. I tried S and Pure before purchasing, preferred the extra stiffness and the stance and looks of the S. The car is effortless on motorways & Peage, then when we got to the good stuff it was perfect. The attention it gets everywhere you go is just fantastic, particularly as you can imagine in France! People love it and love that it's different. 👍
@donotbendmybag
@donotbendmybag 2 жыл бұрын
I have owned mine a couple of years, still think its brilliant. Drove non-stop to Inverness and got out without needing a back stretch/bend, no better vehicle to do the NC500 in.
@GadgetyMV
@GadgetyMV 2 жыл бұрын
I drove the A110 GT and it was fabulous. Flattering, even. Very quick at speed. You sit lower in the GT than in the regular one. It has the same suspension set up but the more powerful engine of the S, and 24mm larger brakes F/R, and parking sensors and a reversing cam. I thought the 4 cylinder engine would be too little excitement, but in sport mode it sounded better than I expected. The sound system you mention is incredibly light, which is an achievement in and of itself, and there's an optional additional sub in the GT. The Atelier color range is quite stunning, too. I think it's indicative that both Gordon Murray and James May have selected the A110 as the car to buy out of all the choice available today.
@chrisgleason7204
@chrisgleason7204 2 жыл бұрын
So wishing Alpine was available in the US! I would buy one night an instant!
@reitsmaassociates
@reitsmaassociates 2 жыл бұрын
Replaced my 6 year owned mk3 TT with an A110 about 9 months back , i really didn’t know what to make of it,it took me a couple of weeks and a twisty country road into the mountains to eventually like it , but now I adore the way it drives. I find i take the long way home from work. There were only ever 110 of these imported into Australia, as such they are super rare , seems like only “play station” kids point at it and know what one is :) thanks again for another Great honest review as always - cheers from Brisbane
@426baron
@426baron 2 жыл бұрын
How comes an Australian makes such a purchase decision, if I might ask ?
@fugawiaus
@fugawiaus 2 жыл бұрын
From the sound of jay’s review, it was built for our aussie roads. If only it came in a v8. Hehe
@Janshevik
@Janshevik 2 жыл бұрын
ahh so A110 stands for Australia's 110? :D
@nicholasfrawley824
@nicholasfrawley824 2 жыл бұрын
As a Brisbane local, it would be a treat to see one on the road! I will keep an eye out
@deanchur
@deanchur 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a Pagani Huayra in Adelaide (parked, as part of the Classic Adelaide rally), but I've never seen an A110. Feel free to bring it to Adelaide and take it for a blast in the hills :)
@R03333
@R03333 2 жыл бұрын
Met an older gentleman with a white one of these at a recent trackday, he was having a great time on track & then drove home in it without doing anything to it beyond tire pressures. Makes sense if you're in the market for specifically what it is.
@kingphiltheill
@kingphiltheill 10 ай бұрын
I just wanted to say thank you for this video. It played a part for my in finally pulling the trigger on a new A110 GT. Can't wait to get it in March/April 😎
@rh1300s
@rh1300s 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a serial offender with Alpines, this is my fourth and I still have 1300S Berlinette - so I won't give a fully un-biased point of view. That's a well rounded summary - well done (I don't care about the front boot catch - but it is a ball-ache). Mine has done 42000 miles, cheap to service and run. If you step back from the joyful driving on quicker days, the basic day to day - leave it in 'normal' and fully auto and it's so easy to pootle in traffic too and that is truly part of the magic, it is a car you can live with. Performance-wise it's a little belter. Earlier this year I took it to the Castle Combe Magic Day where you can give young drivers runs around (or even let them drive). Even in the company of some Lambos and McLarens - every single person who went in the Alp rated it best car they had been in. One lad (smart enough and old enough to judge) who's dad had just bought a 911 - declared 'I'm telling dad he bought the wrong car - the Porsche can't react as quickly with so little steering movement'
@NightfallDrives
@NightfallDrives 7 ай бұрын
Lovely to hear stories of cars being shared like this. If you might enjoy featuring in a driving video, please give me a shout 😎
@IsuckAtDriving
@IsuckAtDriving 2 жыл бұрын
One of my dream cars and this video convinced me in hoping to get one in the future! Sadly due to country taxes and questionable business practices has made the A110 cost way more than the Porsche 718 Cayman here. Cayman cost around 90k USD while the A110 cost 10-20k USD more. But one day for sure!
@LazyData
@LazyData 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully things improve for its availability!
@raphaelb.8440
@raphaelb.8440 2 жыл бұрын
Why is it much more expensive?
@fbreijnen
@fbreijnen 2 жыл бұрын
have owned my glacier white one for 2,5 years and put 25k kilometers on it. You can have the seat adjusted in hight, as it has three settings, but you need to have this done by the dealer; I do not enjoy fast motorway trips, as it is rather noisy at 200+ speeds (Germany); my wife does not like the little boot space (100 litre front plus 100 litre rear) and the infotainment system is outdated and stupid. It is the cheapest car in running cost I have and have had in many years, maintenance, dutch road tax, fuel consumption, insurance, tyres. On B-roads it has no competition at all! Acceleration 4.5 to 100kph always thrilling and light, responsive, immediate steering and excellent gearbox make it a treasured little pocket rocket.
@ozeskiman
@ozeskiman 2 жыл бұрын
One of Jay's best reviews.. because he gets to drive so many different cars of all descriptions his reviews are excellent and consistent. I got to drive the A110 when they first came out, and whilst I really liked most things about it, the engine underwhelmed me. I've lately been considering a GT4 to have as an alternative driver to my 575M but Jay's suggestion to try the A110 GT is good advice. Loving those shirts..
@iandavidson99
@iandavidson99 2 жыл бұрын
Guaranteed future classic. Critically acclaimed, but a commercial flop.
@massivelymusic6006
@massivelymusic6006 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure about commercial flop? I see more of them then I do lotus’s
@campervanman5340
@campervanman5340 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely.
@dorstefan
@dorstefan 2 жыл бұрын
Most people don't like cars. They see them as appliances that sometime can bring them a social status.
@drazenbudis7881
@drazenbudis7881 2 жыл бұрын
@@dorstefan Most people are idiots, see: the most popular music, the most popular movies, the most popular cars.
@georgec2126
@georgec2126 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly said! But I did see one recently.
@CptCaptainClockwork
@CptCaptainClockwork 2 жыл бұрын
This is a car I'd genuinely love to have, only modern car on the market I'd take any interest in. (So many soon-to-be-classics around I'd rather have) Totally outside of my price range though, maybe one day.
@jo.cohennn
@jo.cohennn 2 жыл бұрын
Made me shed a lil tear @27:30 love the passion for cars making people happy 🤧
@Sabrezx
@Sabrezx 2 жыл бұрын
I've had my 110 Pure for a month now, 2k miles in. It's a glorious little thing no matter what speed you're going at. The boot release is a pain, as is the slight rattle coming from the passenger door, but it's just so good to drive you can forgive it's little flaws. Sort of reminds me of why I loved my early Alfa Romeos. I had moved towards the dark side recently, had an RS3 saloon previous, and it's such a blunt instrument in comparison. For where I stay in the Scottish borders (and pretty much any other road) I couldn't be happier with my choice.
@pietvanzutphen2463
@pietvanzutphen2463 2 жыл бұрын
I also have this slight rattle. In my car it goes away when you move the passenger seat a bit forward.
@garethmcrae668
@garethmcrae668 2 жыл бұрын
Currently restoring my GT Junior. As it's back to bare metal I'm taking the chance to switch the boot release from passenger side door jam to driver's side. It's a keeper, so that charmy quirk would have worn off quickly... Also in Scottish Borders- are you in BVAC?
@rh1300s
@rh1300s 2 жыл бұрын
Slight rattle? If it isn't there when you have a passenger. It sounds silly, but check where the seat belt buckle is stopping against the top of the seat.
@Sabrezx
@Sabrezx 2 жыл бұрын
’m not, wasn’t aware of it until now. Nice 3000 on the landing page, my old man has a mint 100/4.
@garethmcrae668
@garethmcrae668 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sabrezx Fair bit of old bufty stuff (like pre-war) but more modern classics, inc. Z3M's, Evora, etc. AH is a great thing! Does he get out in it in the summer?
@TheSimonhammond
@TheSimonhammond 2 жыл бұрын
Love the BX referance and I agree, my BX'x where brilliant on b roads and very rewarding when you've mastered a smooth driving technique with these.
@gdwlaw5549
@gdwlaw5549 2 жыл бұрын
10.000 alpines produced since launch. 15 made every day by 350 workers at the Dieppe factory. Launch of electric and hybrid version next year. Lotus best year production was 1.600. This is not bad for a brand that was relaunched in 2018. If only lotus could make a practical daily driver?
@smwatson1512
@smwatson1512 2 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful car. Beautiful, quick, light, rare.
@mattlowery
@mattlowery 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I've been tempted to buy an Alpine for years. I'm at that wierd stage of checking AutoTrader every chance I get in the rediculous hope that an Alpine A110 gets listed with a price 5K below average asking. I love this car! Seems an odd time to be considering buying a 45K weekend toy when the country seems to be going down the toilet... but then again, when was the last time it didn't feel like that?
@fintan.
@fintan. 2 жыл бұрын
as a 17 year old who passed his driving test a week ago studying accounting im at a point where i’d be lucky to have a chance at ownership or something like this. economy in a flop or not i’d take the risk because when you see the opportunity disappear in the next decade you’ll be regretful you didn’t jump on it. seeing how many electric cars are on the road now i think companies producing them will eventually enter some economies of scale and someone’s gonna produce an affordable model that everyone will jump on. trust me these classics are going to hold value with what we’re seeing with this rubbish competition
@alexmurray6956
@alexmurray6956 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt I totally agree but I took the plunge . I went for a new A110 gt as had most of extras I wanted rather than base model then add loads on top. When I looked at Alpine financing the difference wasn’t that much as residuals on gt higher . As a keeper I decided to go for what I wanted # spendingkids inheritance
@metsta74
@metsta74 2 жыл бұрын
Shootingbrake auction 👍🏼
@summushieremiasclarkson4700
@summushieremiasclarkson4700 2 жыл бұрын
I'm never one to whine about the lack of manuals these days, but this one is unforgivable. This is the IDEAL car to be sold with a manual.
@hyweltthomas
@hyweltthomas 2 жыл бұрын
Drive one and you'll change your mind. (I felt the same)
@guynicholson5438
@guynicholson5438 2 жыл бұрын
Difficult to get the gear change perfect in this configuration, look at Lotus.... I find the A 110S an amazing drive with the dual clutch gearbox, super fast and smooth. manual shift would be too old tech and limited sales. Look at Ferrari and fast Porsches, all no clutch and paddles. Now had mine for almost 2 years and happy, smile and fun on every drive.
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 2 жыл бұрын
@@hyweltthomas I won't. Automatics are boring, just like EVs.... nothing is more fun in life than a manual transmission, and I will never give that up, even if that meant my death. If I was rich I would get one of these and convert it to manual and make it into a convertible.
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 2 жыл бұрын
@@guynicholson5438 Na, boring AF, ppl like you are ruining motoring. Might as well just drive an EV if you don't want a manual.
@guynicholson5438
@guynicholson5438 2 жыл бұрын
@@fortheloveofnoise there is a difference between an EV and a petrol motor. when you are old enough to drive and have some experience of life, you may think different. Lol
@a.duanny6978
@a.duanny6978 2 жыл бұрын
IRL, you don’t really feel more power in the A110S as this additional power is obtained only with more rpm at the very top of the rev counter, exactly where you don’t need it with this kind of turbo engine. It’s only marketing... My A110 is my daily, and 99% of the time, I short-shift around 4000rpm. An Elise is an excellent week-end or track car, but the A110 is the best sports car you can drive everyday in the real world, on real roads and weather !
@peteresders9625
@peteresders9625 2 жыл бұрын
I have owned mine for coming to 2 years and totally agree with your comments. The nasty paddles are easily fixed by replacing with the Life110 ones. The Life110 geometry settings are also an improvement. (No affiliation just a satisfied customer). The only other thing is the infotainment interface which is not up to scratch but is bearable. I have been looking at a solution for the frunk lever as it is annoying in a RHD car.
@clarktjl1
@clarktjl1 2 жыл бұрын
Owned my standard A110 for 6 months now. Live in Scotland, it’s perfect. If you want to try out the life110 paddles James, just let me know.
@fredpnet
@fredpnet 2 жыл бұрын
In France CO2 taxes in 2022 are 1600 € for an Alpine but 40 000 € for a 718.
@marvinsamuels1237
@marvinsamuels1237 2 жыл бұрын
I really do like the A110. The original is one of my all time favourites and has been since I was a kid. This latest iteration is really tempting even to me as a Porsche fan. I drive an EV now and my wife has an SLK as her fun car, but when I’m in a position to get myself something for the weekend, the A110 will be right up there on my list. Another nice review, keep em coming James 👍🏾
@sudeepmaitra2988
@sudeepmaitra2988 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay. Brilliant review - loved how you focussed on the real experience of owning and using the A110. Have mine for the last 4 years - and it is a special car. And love how you had someone on the road smile and give you the thumbs up - happens all the time to me as I drive across the UK. Makes my day 🙂
@gairnmclennan5876
@gairnmclennan5876 14 күн бұрын
The suspension. I guess the damping is really firm but the spring rates quiet soft. Seems to be the way with no in cabin adjustable. If it was comfortable in town it would be hitting the bump stops on a B road.
@zenandpool
@zenandpool 2 жыл бұрын
Great review but front bonnet lever problem would be solve if drive on left side 😅 no issues here in Spain. It’s like a front engine usual lever. On the other side, let’s go to engine bay, lets approve uncomfortable tray, in my case I’ve changed for a same shape carbon from Waldow performance. What it really bugs me it’s those three screws in the trunk to loose glass window of course without gas supports. I solved problem with new clip on fasteners. Own a Legende, your right on power, not exciting but enough to handle light weight. Easy and cheap to raise up to 300 hp and close to 400nm, no issues with gear box after almost 4 years. Love my car, had 1.7 old Puma, Alfa 33, MR2 W3, Infiniti G37S, CLK 320, BMW 650 and by far this Infiniti it’s the best car I’ve drove. It’s fun, fast, stylish, rare, daily use, good mpg even running fast, cheap maintenance. In conclusion, the right formula, be light. Don’t understand 2tons car that need +500hp to perform.
@murrieteacher
@murrieteacher 2 жыл бұрын
I saw one of these about 2 years ago. They are very rare in Australia. And it is on my "want one" list. Thanks Jay.
@steffydog
@steffydog 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see, thanks, love Focal audio.
@theodorebougioukos9384
@theodorebougioukos9384 2 жыл бұрын
Owning this car I mostly agree with you. The car feels like a mature lotus without realistic compromises, except for seat adjustment. Pure edition is the best option since it is a true B road fighter, with the sabelt seats standard. I haven't bothered with advanced stereo and heated seats (40Kg more at least).. Front trunk opening is not such a struggle and generally, space is really good for a weekly trip. I dont agree about the engine. 1.8 fits well for tax purposes in many countries, it is lighter and sounds ok for the caliber of such a car. Balance and driving dynamics are exactly as presented. Quarks: 1. Battery, windows don't function if the engine is switched off, some crackles but not annoying as in an elise/evora, keyless entry (This is the main most annoying thing in the car). S edition is so stiff that doesnt make any sense in real world. Exhaust sound can be improved but works well as it is during long trips. Recommended options: sport exhaust (if no goal for aftermarket), fuchs wheels, 320mm brakes.
@varmastiko2908
@varmastiko2908 2 жыл бұрын
When in manual mode, is automatic shifting completely off? I mean, will it always hold on to a gear even when you reach the redline or when revs drop to around idle?
@theodorebougioukos9384
@theodorebougioukos9384 2 жыл бұрын
@@varmastiko2908 in track mode holds the redline without shifting automatically. In normal and sport mode will shift up. Generally its a clever gearbox.
@varmastiko2908
@varmastiko2908 2 жыл бұрын
@@theodorebougioukos9384 Sounds good, thank you for the information.
@willembaaij4098
@willembaaij4098 Жыл бұрын
My last car was a 2017 Elise, and I really consider buying the A110, the base model , as you kindly recommended, I think it will hold value as wel.
@cervelo9465
@cervelo9465 2 жыл бұрын
Gordon Murray owns one and uses it as his daily driver. This is a ringing endorsement most certainly.
@velcingilles3756
@velcingilles3756 Жыл бұрын
As a Frenchman myself, I know nobody's perfect 😂, I have loved Alpine cars since I was a young boy. I will one day own a Alpine Turbo of the 80s, but since I currently have too many cars it might have to wait a little... This new one is really cool indeed but people are so brand conscious that they prefer to buy a Porsche instead. I did exactly the same, oooolala Monsieur 🤭, mainly because Porsches hold their value, and even when they go down, ultimately they go back up... Alpine is still "new" in the mind of many, so it might have to wait and see how things really develop for the brand...❤ PS: Great review once again by the way, good work 👍
@C123--
@C123-- 2 жыл бұрын
If these were available in the US I'd be doing literally anything necessary to own one.
@MrBubs-yu4wm
@MrBubs-yu4wm 2 жыл бұрын
Same. And I already have an Elise 😂 His / hers lightweight sports cars with the wife would be a nice setup. In 20-something years we’ll import one if we can
@TML34
@TML34 2 жыл бұрын
I think you can still import one. Just have to get it “federalized”, which can’t cost that much, unless you live in California.
@MrBubs-yu4wm
@MrBubs-yu4wm 2 жыл бұрын
@@TML34 I hope you’re right but I’ve heard it’s basically impossible until 25 years has passed
@TML34
@TML34 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrBubs-yu4wm You would need to contact a Registered Importer (RI) in your state. They’re listed on the NHTSA website. I believe the reason Alpine didn’t sell in US was purely marketing, not a regulation issue, but the RI should be able to answer all the questions. Buy 2 and I’ll take one! 😅
@essexstu4387
@essexstu4387 2 жыл бұрын
Great review James. I love my Pure edition. One of the best cars I have driven, and I have driven a lot!
@keithjackson4985
@keithjackson4985 2 жыл бұрын
If you could buy it in the states, I'd be driving one. Love these things.
@andrewdawson5281
@andrewdawson5281 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic news that it doesn't have cup holders. It's a car not a cafe. It's for driving in not drinking in. Not accommodating r/h drive with the bonnet release is simply the French having a sly dig at the Brits. They could've moved the release but they'd rather have a giggle at our expense. As for the ride quality, well, no surprise there. The French are masters with suspension/chassis design.
@Rogcljon
@Rogcljon 2 жыл бұрын
Your review has definitely pushed me over the top I will be getting an A110 at some point for sure. Have ummed and ahhhed about it since first saw them.
@metsta74
@metsta74 2 жыл бұрын
Shootingbrake auction 👍🏼
@stiftungwarentest9636
@stiftungwarentest9636 2 жыл бұрын
Nice car to look at, lightweight guaranteed. However, there is a "but" from me: Unfortunately, as mentioned in the video, no manual transmission is available, instead a 7-Speed DCT does the work here for you which I personally find very unfortunate. I haven't been able to test drive an Alpine yet, but if what you say about the excitement of driving is true, it might have been saved by an optional manual transmission. So I would probably rather go for an Elise or a 981 Cayman, the Porsche would even have the flat-six engine. A very nice review from you, as one can expect high class car journalism from you! Greetings
@lollypop9580
@lollypop9580 2 жыл бұрын
Go and drive an Alpine. 😉
@dinos9607
@dinos9607 Жыл бұрын
I am sure that it is still a fun car to drive with its automatic. However I do share your view on sportscars : they have to be manual. That is where all the fun is.
@angelarnaudas
@angelarnaudas Жыл бұрын
First to congratulate you for such an excellent review. You've gone through almost every subject and talked through the pros and cons very honestly. I've owned an A110 Légénde 252 hp for almost a year till I sold it few days ago as I'll be the very happy owner of the new and exclusive A110R in some weeks' time. Only this tells you a lot about my experience with the Alpine. It's a fantastic fun machine, noble and predictable in its reactions who loves the twisty and moderately bumpy roads. So kudos again to your accurate comments. I just didn't miss much of the lack of power claimed in the review and in fact the difference in performance between the 252 and the 300 hp is significantly smaller than you might think BUT, the S is a better option due to its better chassis setup with special mention to the suspension springs and stability bars that, in the S, are much lighter and stiffer. That makes the car much more stable in the high speed braking and allow the A110 a better traction exiting the turns with an overall feeling of better driving confidence and agility. I also agree about the poor quality of some of the controls: I can survive the climate controls even when are the same of an old Clio but I absolutely hate the volume satellite behind the wheel which disturbs the intuitive and quick handling of the gearbox levers. All these details however are forgivable in my opinion: this is not a family car or a comfy SUV, the car is all about driving experience and feeling and that is close to unbeatable. You always feel safe and in control thanks to the superb chassis and the very well tuned passive suspensions. Thumbs up for Alpine in that respect. Not neglect able either, although it's a personal opinion, the fact that you are not driving a car anyone can see on the roads every day and as you say: you make a lot of friends when you are in a gas station. Porsche Cayman or Alpine? As much as I praise Porsche's quality I've chosen the Alpine over a base Cayman and even over a Cayman S. The A110 is not 200 kg but over 300 kg lighter than the Cayman and, even when less powerful, its lightness delivers a unique driving experience. Again a thumbs up for your accurate comparison: the A110 is in between an Elise and a Cayman and is the choice to go for if you are not into brand-driven purchase neither you want to cope with the spartan life on board of an Elise. All in all the best/most honest review I've watched about this fantastic car.
@raphaelb.8440
@raphaelb.8440 Жыл бұрын
Enjoy your A110r! Where are you going to drive it?
@angelarnaudas
@angelarnaudas Жыл бұрын
@@raphaelb.8440 all going well delivery expected in June. Looking forward
@angelarnaudas
@angelarnaudas 11 ай бұрын
Drove the Ring, crossed the Pyrenees, toured the Spanish and French Basque Country and drove some stages in Catalonia with fellow friends so far. On to Montmeló F1 racetrack on Sunday. I bet you we'll have fun. 9,000 km done solar ... and counting. Can't be happier. It's a fun machine and I wouldn't change it for anything out there. @@raphaelb.8440
@MartinJakobs
@MartinJakobs 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to be owning an A110 GT as my daily driver. It is such a rewarding car . And I can agree with what you say. Last time I washed it a Mercedes Benz engineer (who pulled up in a beautiful 1st gen E Class Coupé) came up and complimented me on the car of which he had only ever seen two In real life. We started talking and he said: „when I got together with my old colleagues we said that they (Mercedes) should have built a car like this in the past.“ Light, focused, small. He said I should keep it for as long as I can. That’s my plan. Although I can understand that for right hand drive the frunk release is painful. Oh and you cen get longer shift paddles from Life 110 or MP Rezeau.
@JoeDjoep
@JoeDjoep 2 жыл бұрын
I'm the proud owner of an A110 GT since last April, and I LOVE this car. It offers pure and unfiltered driving pleasure, and can be used easily as a daily driver. I got a GT rather than an "S" because I want to drive it on long road trips throughout Europe; the first one coming up in December. The engine is indeed "just" a 1.8 liter fourcylinder, but it does its job more than adequately. Quite powerful for its size (300 HP and 340 Nm), sounds quite okay and is very economical when driven within the speed limits (7 liter/100 km or 40 MPG). The lack of storing space is not really a showstopper. My sales guy said that I should pack as if I go on holiday with a motorbike, and I'll be fine. So overall conclusion: it is an absolute dream to drive and own. Nothing comes even close! It is really sad to know that one day this kind of cars will stop to exist.
@thierrymilan2039
@thierrymilan2039 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure it will stop to sell, just another tech engine.
@JoeDjoep
@JoeDjoep 2 жыл бұрын
@@thierrymilan2039 With an electrical engine, it won't be the same anymore. Like the concept car, you won't be able to take it along those winding back roads, afraid that you will run out of battery power. Or in the best case that you will have to spend hours plugged in. Once electricity moves in, the fun moves out. 😕
@tim1polman
@tim1polman 2 жыл бұрын
the lever in the passenger footwell... well, that what you get for still putting the steeringwheel on the wrong side of the car. ;) Would love one of these as a daily. My VW Corrado, Saab 900, Saab 902 convertible, Saab 9000 and Saab 96 all dont have cupholders either. wouldn't mis them. :D
@simonhurlimann908
@simonhurlimann908 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Thank you so much for making them. One thing about the engine: as you know the car should be as light as possible and is designed with the spirit of those old and great rallycars in mind. Light and nimble rallycars also use small engines with turbos so I am not as negative about the size of the engine. Also for public roads it pulls more than enough in my opinion. But yes compared to the whole car if there is anything that could be a bit more exciting it could be the engine probably. All in all an excellent drivers car and I love the turbo inhaling soud it makes…
@davidhayes4814
@davidhayes4814 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Whilst the sector for such cars is small, it is sure an antidote for 2 tonne E.V.s
@glenhowell3420
@glenhowell3420 Жыл бұрын
Loved the review, you picked up on a number of the smaller points, but overall it is great car. I owned my A110 Legende for 3 years and enjoyed driving it wherever i went, even the North circular ! There have been a few issues over that time, i had a software bug that would turn off the engine whilst sitting in traffic, that was fixed by a software upgrade. The rubber surround for the rear window glass came away and had to be replaced. There were some more niggles with the early cars such as the windscreens cracking due to poor fitment, mine was replaced by the dealer before i bought it. Overall a very easy car to own, and yes lots of people want to talk to you at the petrol station !
@Michael-4
@Michael-4 2 жыл бұрын
As an ex Alpine owner I am seriously thinking about getting one of these. Alpine's DNA has survived in this modern car.
@rh1300s
@rh1300s 2 жыл бұрын
You should - I have had two GTA V6 turbos and still have an A110 1300S Berlinette. I am thrilled with the new A110
@jeffreyb.1657
@jeffreyb.1657 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have bought one if they were on sale in the USA. Wish Renault would have partnered with say another dealer network they were once part of...say Nissan dealers.....missed opportunity for sure for Renault and frankly a huge error. Great video!
@neilhandbury
@neilhandbury 2 жыл бұрын
One of your best Videos! I really appreciate the effort you put in to your videos to keep it informative, interesting and amusing!
@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 2 жыл бұрын
Approved by James May... And Gordon Murray.
@kiwihame
@kiwihame 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a little bit in love with the A110. Keen to import one into NZ but the damn things won't depreciate below £48K.
@m1keyw
@m1keyw 2 жыл бұрын
Love the A110 and that''s got to be one of your most positive reviews!
@RumblestripDotNet
@RumblestripDotNet 2 жыл бұрын
Dan Prosser from The Intercooler wrote a ton about his. Also an ECU flash brings it upto 300hp. Wish we could get these in the U.S.
@thierrymilan2039
@thierrymilan2039 2 жыл бұрын
There is a team in France that upgrade the engine to 350 hp with bigger brakes, lightweight and more sporty but respectful design, a real gem and bombtrack !
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 2 жыл бұрын
They are automatic only, so it's no loss.
@RumblestripDotNet
@RumblestripDotNet 2 жыл бұрын
@@fortheloveofnoise actually it’s your loss for being a gate keeper and blood purity nonsense
@davidoliver7977
@davidoliver7977 2 жыл бұрын
Had mine for nearly a year now and totally agree with your assessment J, it is a toy really yes, but I just love driving it and its a keeper having been fully PPF. Of course the other upside to mention is its very easy to clean as its so small and being a black car in my caset hat's a bonus. Happy days.
@bicyclist2
@bicyclist2 2 жыл бұрын
I know James May bought one of these. It unfortunately won't be seen here in the US. I always liked the look of it. Thank you.
@simonjohnantony
@simonjohnantony 2 жыл бұрын
I live and drive my Alpine Legende in France where I am waved at enthusiastically every day by the locals. Taking her through Alpine passes is just wonderful. Sorry, but UK roads don’t give her chance to shine. A great and fair review !
@xkimopye
@xkimopye 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite ever review of yours. Sadly they don’t sell this in Australia anymore due to some stupid safety design rule. And thanks for including newton metres.
@alexmurray6956
@alexmurray6956 2 жыл бұрын
Jay got to say you have really highlighted the true dna of the Alpine A110 in this video. Much credit that unlike many reviewers you ignore the superfluous and appreciate why those that can afford one choose it .
@KentODoherty
@KentODoherty 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Gordon Murray drives (or maybe drove) an Alpine...not sure of the spec., but I do recall seeing it and having him mention the car at least on one occasion. Surely there is some automatic praise for Alpine through his driving one
@davocc2405
@davocc2405 2 жыл бұрын
Always loved this thing, loved the original too - one of the best looking cars of its era, this is a wonderful homage. Surprised at the engine TBH - regulations can do an awful lot of harm as he mentions.
@obi-wankenobi7160
@obi-wankenobi7160 2 жыл бұрын
It is quite obvious that if Gordon Murray owns and drives one of these, it absolutely must be sensational. Great review
@Dominik189
@Dominik189 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yay, a car I'm actually currently looking at buying. It looks so cute and I really like the fact it's 1.8 Turbo. Sad it's only a DCT, but could possibly look past it. Might just go ahead and give it a test drive. If it's anything like my old MR2, which it sound like it might be, I'm quite likely to like it.
@samszulman7851
@samszulman7851 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work as usual as you have given a great all-round summary of the A110's point of difference. As I have had mine for over 4 years I would like to make a few points from experience. Yes, the front boot opening is a pain but I have only reached for it less than a dozen times in the 4 years so it's hardly a biggie. I'm also a big fan of the stereo controls as they are far easier for me to use compared to stereo control buttons on a steering wheel. (That's from years of owning a Clio 3 200 RS), Most importantly, i have never owned a car that I could push with as much confidence and playfulness and I have owned 4 previous mid-engined cars + a couple of Lancia Integrale's. I do wish mine had Apple car play but that's about it.
@Matt-go7ss
@Matt-go7ss 2 жыл бұрын
I thought they had carplay as standard?
@samszulman7851
@samszulman7851 2 жыл бұрын
@@Matt-go7ss not the earliest versions unfortunately. Apple Car Play cam on the 2020 update
@Bruno-cb5gk
@Bruno-cb5gk 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, absolutely love this car. Hope I'll manage to get one some day.
@fredzarma8347
@fredzarma8347 Жыл бұрын
Got mine four years ago now and I agree : the Kangoo commodo is weird BUT you never see it as the driver. Above all, it's a sympathetic social car, not posh at all, that is a magnet to kids and adults to come and have a chat. Also, it has no competitor on twirly little mountain roads ; not even sport motorbikes. And many friendly machines raced me here, from Aston Martin 4WD to very fast thingies with only two wheels. As you mentioned, it is a class of its own… and, living on an island where Alpine doesn't exist and mine is the only one, therefore no one would fix it if it breaks but, yet, I wouldn't go for another car as this IS the funniest, happiest and most discreet/showing off car I've drove so far.
@904carrera
@904carrera 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! 100% agree with the review. I would also not go for the S. I tried base and S, back to back, on a great road (Alpine knows how to organize test drive events). I didn’t like the ride from the S, and performance wise the difference was really minimal, and mostly at the top end (low and mid range felt identical).
@TheJustaviewman
@TheJustaviewman 2 жыл бұрын
I love this car, it's very special. So what if it has no cup holders. Just sit in a cafe and admire the lines of the Alpine parked in the street. Who wants to sip coffee in a car that's made to, just drive? Not me.
@Stevieboy130664
@Stevieboy130664 2 жыл бұрын
I own an old Porsche but, to tell you the truth, I would pick this over the Cayman or any Lotus. And it's gorgeous! Base model would be just perfect!
@coltr7561
@coltr7561 2 жыл бұрын
I would take 4c over any of those
@Stevieboy130664
@Stevieboy130664 2 жыл бұрын
@@coltr7561 the most disappointing of all these cars. I had great hopes of the 4C with its clever carbon fibre tub. Only they seem to spend all the money on that and none on good suspension geometry (double wishbones front but struts at rear) and development. The low rent interior has already been mentioned. It looks good (though no better than any of its competitors and I prefer the Alpine). The trouble is Alfa has produced great cars but has had trouble selling them. What chance the very flawed 4C?
@coltr7561
@coltr7561 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stevieboy130664 fastest car on track, best in for that purpose. 4C sold good enough, it was no meant for mass production.Most disappointing is that Alpine, prone to burn and slow. Suspensiom geometry is far better than in Alpine, otherwise it would not be faster car on track. I suggest that you donr write things you don't know anything,
@Stevieboy130664
@Stevieboy130664 2 жыл бұрын
@@coltr7561 it has an inferior suspension layout. With unequal length double wishbones front and rear the Alpine has matched geometry front and rear which means front and rear roll centres move similarly when cornering. In contrast the Alfa's different suspension geometry front and rear means the roll centres move differently (strut style suspension roll centre moves much more than unequal length double wishbone). Strut front and double wishbone rear or alternatively multilink suspension can work well together - Porsche 911 is a perfect example and sometimes it can work in the configuration the Alfa uses if the manufacturer commits to spending more/enough time on development - which Alfa didn't do. Hence, in reviews, the Alpine has been universally praised for its handling while the Alfa has been largely panned. It was improved slightly later but that's about it. Perhaps Alfa should have gone strut front, strut rear as in the Porsche Boxster/Cayman - another car whose handling is well regarded.
@coltr7561
@coltr7561 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stevieboy130664 I dont know what an earth y ou are talking about, but 4c handles very well, that's the reason its faster on track than Elise or Alpine. If suspension geometry would be bad, it would not handle or drive like that. YOu have read too much EVO magazine, which bashed 4c without any reason and all UK jnournalist contained to bash it. Everywhere else in the world 4c was praised with its handling.
@markthibault8579
@markthibault8579 2 жыл бұрын
I love this design and wish it was available in Canada. Ideally, it would also include a manual transmission option too.
@alfred0621
@alfred0621 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently this car was not built with manual transmission in mind.
@SeattleForge
@SeattleForge Жыл бұрын
I really, really wish this were available in the US. I loved my Audi TTS and they don't bloody make it anymore. This looks like a great successor.
@philard
@philard 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I follow this channel. Jayemm has a sense for a car lover's car.
@abkcharters
@abkcharters 6 ай бұрын
Completely agree with everything you have said (apart from the larger paddles, Life110 sell a largerset of perfect paddles for the car). Great review, thank you. I have had mine for more than 6 months now and love every minute of it.
@philipminns3933
@philipminns3933 2 жыл бұрын
I am SO sold on this. I'm not so much into the blue, but there's a darker colour they do it in which to me looks spectacular. Now to convince myself that I don't need to buy a car...
@richwalk8990
@richwalk8990 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a review on one, we looked at the same colour car at Shelsley Walsh a few weeks ago, the wife who does like sports cars, loved it! They are very dinky things too and nost definitely a unique alternative to the cars you mention in the vlog.
@afrancis1582
@afrancis1582 15 күн бұрын
I’m considering an A110 in the new year. The lack of a manual ‘box is the thing that has put me off the idea of buying one previously. I’ve always owned only manual cars. But I’ll give it a try and maybe I will be able to look past the auto.
@govertvanamerongen5902
@govertvanamerongen5902 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I am 6'5". I have driven it. Totally agree on your comments. Get the base model and in blue. The sabelt seats are great. It is very fast and agile. Love it!!
@diogodimas8677
@diogodimas8677 2 жыл бұрын
The reason why the A110 only has a DCT is because, the manual didnt fit in the chassis so it had to be re-enginered and the DCT in the Megane is a dry-clutch (?, Not sure, im saying this of my memory), and reviews of the Megane with the DCT were'nt great. So, Alpine, with its minimum budget, had to choose between either modify the Manual to fit, or make the DCT better. They choose the DCT (the correct choice, even if its not the more pretolhead option) and i made it a wet-clutch DCT.
@markonmotoring
@markonmotoring 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much echoing what has already been said here but I also feel that this is pretty much the only new car at any price point that remotely interests me (ok so perhaps one of Gordon Murrays new cars would spark my interest). And yes from what I can see it's near perfect except for the fact they don't offer a manual gearbox (Ike on an RS Mégane). Even at £50k it's unlikely I'll ever own one but we all have to dream.. the entry level car is still something truly aspirational to a working class car enthusiast.
@cafe405
@cafe405 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, one of your best and a treat in length too (that's what she said). I may give 1 a whirl.
@eze8970
@eze8970 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks J, always good to see the Alpines. Great mountains & forested East Anglian hillsides to! 🙏🙏
@patrickhostler5939
@patrickhostler5939 2 жыл бұрын
As a Mazda MX5 RF owner I do look at the Alpine as a car that, if I had the dough, I would definitely consider upgrading to… it looks stunning and is as close to the analog motoring I crave. My only concern is reliability… anything with Renault in the engineering DNA does worry me… perhaps wrongly… Have these proved as good (robust) as… well, my MX5
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 2 жыл бұрын
Unlikely. MX-5 is mega-reliable.
@CGCTV
@CGCTV 2 жыл бұрын
If i was you id stick with the MX5, if you are wanting a little more grunt and to change it up, have a look at what BBR offer
@alexmurray6956
@alexmurray6956 2 жыл бұрын
After owning three mx5’s whilst loved them to bits, the A110 is a step up in driver involvement, noise , stability, solid feel on motorways and off course rarity. Yes the price between the two is beyond comparison but if you can afford one , get one . Yes totally illogical but how many sane people buy sports cars .🤔
@patrickhostler5939
@patrickhostler5939 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexmurray6956 I couldn’t afford a new one by any stretch, and pre-owned they seem to hold their value-perhaps because of the aforementioned rarity. How have you found reliability and build quality… and running costs?
@Trickytimes
@Trickytimes 2 жыл бұрын
Had my A110 PE for 4 years now and nothing has gone wrong yet.
@bearclaw5115
@bearclaw5115 2 жыл бұрын
I would take one of these over anything. I love it's uniqueness and the focus on driving fun in the real world. Too bad U.S. doesn't get them!
@johnquigley4787
@johnquigley4787 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed, your film. I bought the "base" model new in July, and agree with your overview..though I can't compare it to Porsches or Lotus..have only had reasonably quick Vauxhalls! Have only done around 1600 miles but enjoyed everyone. I took it round the Trossachs last weekend, twisty and not the smoothest of roads...it just grips and rides so well just as you said 😀 It has faults (minor) as you say, but so glad I have it!
@simonhurlimann908
@simonhurlimann908 9 ай бұрын
In twisty roads there is no regular Porsche that will leave you in the dust in that car. The real fast Porsches can get away but also they are probably not as fun and certainly the license is in danger then…
@yvanpedron5255
@yvanpedron5255 2 жыл бұрын
I discover this Channel with Alpine, which is great, but overall, i very like the speech of the man who speaks. Merci.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 2 жыл бұрын
De rien Yvan
@popsbubbles1242
@popsbubbles1242 2 жыл бұрын
I was sat in a pub hiding from a duluge in the Lake District ,it was when this cat was launched and I was very keen indeed, I was about to drunkenly place my deposit, the thing that stopped me was lack of manual gearbox. I tussled with the thought for 30mins then cancelled my order. I think I might try one after your great video.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 2 жыл бұрын
Try it! You won't regret it
@grantjohnstone9787
@grantjohnstone9787 2 жыл бұрын
Drove one for a few laps around Thruxton and it was absolutely brilliant. Felt much quicker than the power suggests, and was incredibly sensitive, with a really good sportscar feel. Completely different to driving my much more gutsy M240i.
@davidarter6271
@davidarter6271 2 жыл бұрын
Mhmm, perfect on bad roads……this would be ideal in Australia!!!! What a wonderful car
@tomspanyol5532
@tomspanyol5532 2 жыл бұрын
I bought one a couple of months ago, just waiting for delivery! Borrowed one last week from the dealer for a driving trip to North Wales with a few friends, it's superb and am very excited to get mine now. The car tested here had the driver seat in the middle height position, this can be dropped (with a torx tool) and I can confirm it is much improved in the lowest position. I also owned a Toyota GT86 by the way, so maybe I'm that person that these sort of cars are geared towards! Still not seen another Alpine on the road other than the one I have been driving.
@ianchambers2731
@ianchambers2731 2 жыл бұрын
I agree - had mine since June and lowest setting on the seats is the way to go. Took it to France last week - lost count of the number of nods of approval and waves it got!
@standandeliver8376
@standandeliver8376 2 жыл бұрын
Between the Alpine and the GT86, which would you say is most fun to drive, and is there much in it? I realise the GT86 is a much cheaper car with less power and that torque dip, but with a manual transmission and a different engine configuration (boxer) and position (front), the answer isn't necessarily obvious.
@tomspanyol5532
@tomspanyol5532 2 жыл бұрын
@@standandeliver8376 it's a very interesting question. I liked the idea of the Alpine when it first came out, but couldn't see past the lack of manual gearbox. A key reason I test drove the Alpine recently was that I had suffered an Achilles injury that meant I wasn't able to drive manual for a few months. It's different to manual, but satisfying in it's own way. The Alpine is vastly superior to the GT86 in terms of dynamics and also shove. Although "only" 50ish BHP more, the 150kg-ish less weight also plays a part and it feels MUCH faster than the GT86. I prefer the steering feel and general balance of the Alpine also. As mentioned, I borrowed an Alpine and took it to North Wales last week (put about 800 miles on it in 3 days). We had planned a route on some testing roads and I was with friends with much more powerful cars (M3/M4 Nissan GTR etc). Day 1 was wet and I could easily keep up with everyone when pushing - it's an easy car to get comfortable with driving briskly. Day 2 was dry, and whilst I could see the horsepower difference on straights, the size of the Alpine and handling meant again I could easily keep up with others when pushing. I had the GT86 for just over 3 years (from 2012) - really enjoyed it but always ached for a bit more shove and the gearbox isn't brilliant, change into second was always a bit notchy (in a bad way) and didn't feel like it liked to be hurried. I swapped it for a BMW M2 in 2016 (also manual) - lovely car, but dynamically preferred the GT86. Added a Caterham to the collection also and after a while sold the M2 on to get a VW Camper (totally different!). I did try the M2 Competition with the DCT gearbox before getting rid of my M2, although some of the updates were nice the reduced noise (particulate filter) meant that I wasn't keen to upgrade. After a couple of years of Caterham ownership (great fun, lots of trackdays) I found myself using that less and less on the road so sold it on this April when I realised I had done less than 1,000 miles in it's last year (I had a Superlight R400 so 210 bhp in a 500ish kg vehicle - as I've got older my desire to wring it's neck on public roads diminished). Then got injured and couldn't drive manual and tested an Alpine in August - loved it and bought it! Delivery end November/early December. Not sure if that really answers your question, but explains how I ended up where I am, in summary if it is the gearbox that is putting you off - give it a try. No harm in taking a test drive!
@standandeliver8376
@standandeliver8376 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomspanyol5532 Thank you for the detailed reply. I must admit that although I'd love an Alpine (it's basically my dream car), I can't really afford one in real terms. I could buy one, but I'd be using a chunk of cash I'll need for a house upgrade! A GT86 is financially a more realistic proposition, so it's interesting to hear your perspective, especially as you are a past Caterham owner. Have fun with the Alpine when it arrives!
@tomspanyol5532
@tomspanyol5532 2 жыл бұрын
@@standandeliver8376 faced with that situation I’d get a second hand GT86, be very happy with it and able to do some serious mods when funds allow. 👍
@seinsmeld13
@seinsmeld13 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they sold these cars here in Canada. This would be a great weekend car. Cheers mate!!
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