‘Five Three Five’ is a Lovely Little Card Game

Tom is taking a look at Five Three Five this week - a charming little imported game that’s got a lovely bit of shine hidden underneath its meteorological exterior. Similar in nature to recent world-dominating favourite SCOUT - has this slim little box got what it takes to dethrone the king? Have a little watch… to find out…
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I've accepted that Tom's videos are either ADHD fevered dreams, or the process of solving a nice sudoku. There is no in-between.

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well described!

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I love Tom's writing style. If he also edits these videos, I love his editing style too.

[@CamObscura88]

I think he edits all of the videos for the channel now.

[@VagabondTE]

I love it when these guys scrunch themselves into a camera frame that's zoomed in really close. First of all it's smart because it prioritizes the game and conveys a level of intimacy. But it's also funny watching them squirm to get into frame like the game itself doesn't want them in the shot and there awkwardly forcing their way in.

[@ryanstrouse3045]

I just love Tom!

[@andrewbeutel8044]

Great to see 535 get some love! Portland Game Collective did an amazing job republishing this gem, and has some other interesting projects in the queue.

[@RustalWolf]

Can't believe Tom destroyed his inner monologue. Now who will drive him towards ever more insane debates with himself?

[@THESP-rz3hg]

I appreciate little digressions into games that may not be super hot or new. It's a welcome pallet cleanser from the hype cycle

[@Aburner1109]

I think forg has really added something to this channel. Subbed.

[@christinemccarter8370]

Frog 🐸

[@Aburner1109]

​@@christinemccarter8370 I'm sorry, but you are objectively incorrect. I suggest you reexamine your life choices and reconsider your decision.

[@christinemccarter8370]

Forg*🐸

[@13ane]

Let this video be the evidence of Tom slowly becoming Quinns lol. As he plays more and more games he starts to really value things like 'design elegance', novelty, but novelty where it's deeply mechanical.

[@arnonym9746]

Great video - love the Forg!

[@MrTombombodil]

I've been watching shut up and sit down for like 15 straight years, and they still come up with ways to describe board games that I never would have thought of in a million years. I've never in my life thought of referring to a board game as "a grower" 😅 But it makes perfect sense! Genius! I think.

[@MoSpinach]

Heckin' heck yeah, I've really enjoyed this game, so happy I backed it! Edit: Also, this publisher, Portland Game Collective, is soon publishing Haggis, TRICKTAKERs (plus expansion?), and a very hidden game, My Favorite Carrera RS, a 'must not follow' trick taker.

[@Mauno57]

Was about to comment that 200ml of serotonin is an absolute shitload, and then the inner monologue kicked in 😂😂

[@seanfsmith]

It's enough to start a locust swarm

[@ClaeFace]

I’m deep in my small, snappy game phase, and this is yet another one to hit my list. Also LOVE to see Saashi & Saashi getting some love from SUSD:)

[@elqord.1118]

Lee you made it! Super proud of your work. Cheers, ID from Germany!

[@lockonandfire]

Lovely stuff as ever, and another new team member! Looking forward to seeing more videos from Internal Monologue.

[@SeanKDLA]

Not gonna lie, he's giving me big Cube Boy vibes, and that guy sucked!

[@Moewenfels]

Pensive humms are my FAVORITE!

[@MohamadSobh]

Lovely card game. Portland Game Collective did a great job bringing this to a wider audience

[@SolviKaaber]

This is one of those cute little games that are waiting one my shelves to get played.

[@greghinzmann3171]

Been enjoying this since I picked it up based on your video - thanks!

[@coolerthanmilk]

I think your review captures how it feels for me very well. I like that it's not hard to remember the possible melds to play like some shedders. You rarely feel stuck because you can't play anything. And it moves fast. Altogether it makes it a very pleasant game that I'm happy to play anytime.

[@kennyorkenneth]

Five Three Five has definitely replaced Scout for me. It is so fun and snappy.

[@MrJcarrut]

Tom is now doing every SUSD video and that is fine.

[@jonathanbarron9419]

This is the game that made me like climbing games

[@codesmith2607]

Can't wait for your guys review of Campaign for North Africa!!!!!!!!!!! 😊😊😊

[@terry3733H]

Yup! I switched from video gaming (screen-time). it's like playing with postcards or reading mysteries. 😊

[@IronSalamander8]

I wish to know more about Forg!

[@lisahasegawa2674]

This is such a great game! Happy to see it on here.

[@mchagawa1615]

Seems quite nice and cute :) thank you for sharing

[@alexanderbradburn6511]

Based on the title I thought this could be a follow up to 504. Glad it's something different!

[@KirbyUK]

Where did you get that plantpot? I love it!

[@ToddGretencord]

Maybe not the right place to ask this, but... If we want access to the 'bonus content' do we have to go through Patreon? In the past I donated directly, which I thought meant that you got more of the donation compared to using the third party app.

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Yes! By donating on the website we keep more of the donation and you still get all the same bonuses: articles, videos, etc. They'll come to you via email and roundup all the recent goodies you might have missed.

[@Russbear]

New video on a Wednesday?! This experimentation has gone too far. Better watch it right away.

[@axj763]

You wind from the back forwards in Wind the Film! (I'm pretty sure)

[@alvarorodriguez1592]

I'll wait for the Cthulhu version

[@terry3733H]

Apparently BG-solo is "weird" but most video games (pre-internet) were solo. Solo can experiment with strategies without time / peer pressure 😊 my friends only like short light games 😅

[@MattTheSpratt]

I agree that this seems like a really Nice game, I don't think I've room for it in my collection given that I feel like Scout! just does everything it does better, >and< that my friends know Scout! and already really like its' sneaky little restrictions.

[@happyjosiah]

Five Three Five is one of those rare games where the rules actually make it sound more fun than it actually is. Despite my praise for the elegance of certain design choices here, this is a game that feels like it plays itself. It's not totally clear to me why the hands so rarely provide interesting tactical choices. But it is clear that lengthening the game by playing to a higher score is NOT the answer, as this would likely result in even more lopsided scores. It's not a good sign when the only thing keeping a game from getting an even lower rating is the fact that it you don't have to play it for very long.

[@tigriscallidus4477]

I havent played this game, but in other ladder climbing games often the challenge comes from "should I play the cards which I can or should I keep them for a better hand". Here this might be a bit less the case, since you cant put more than 5 ascending cards down at the same time anyway. And being able to add a single card to a double or tripple means that having single cards in your hand left is not as deadly as in other such games.

[@happyjosiah]

@@tigriscallidus4477 I think you hit the nail on the head there

[@littlekong7685]

It reminds me of the rules for President (Used by a regular deck).

[@tigriscallidus4477]

@@littlekong7685 well president is a typical ladder climbing game. There are a lot of these types of games. Tichu as one example. They were also really popular in china

[@JonTripp115]

Say, I have all of the Alternative Recommendations except for Hungry Monkey. Maybe I should put that on my to-investigate list.

[@gergelygocza7137]

Did I get it right that the playthroughs will be all exclusive to patreon?

[@JohnSmith78098]

Is it possible to have a dialogue regarding our soon to be released game? We want to know if you’ll do a preview on it if we send you a prototype.

[@MattSpeaksWords]

I think Red7 gets similarly overlooked, honestly.

[@theONLYfudjud]

You hired Emily?! Yes! She's so great. Can't wait to see more of her in my life

[@emiliskazlauskas]

Forg!

[@timdertim]

This review feels like the game

[@ValkyrieTiara]

Tom how.... how do you normally eat Easter eggs?

[@littlemissevel3607]

Wait ... this seems like a house rule version of rummy that i've played... but with points

[@pudicio]

Would have expected some Tichu love here tbh. Still great video 😊

[@jeffreyschon]

SCOUT!

[@garretnarjes782]

Even if you prefer SCOUT.... that game is often sold out and hard to acquire right now. It's nice to have alternative recomendations.

[@DrMcFly28]

"Something or someone... a little bit different" - is it Quinns wearing a hat? PLEASE TELL ME IT'S QUINNS WEARING A HAT

[@felixhayes2404]

I did a pensive hum once.

[@kendoyle]

The turbo trump sounds more suited to a cowboy beans game

[@frankharr9466]

Does that remind me of Durak? Anyway, it sounds interesting.

[@foodforfaeries]

Oh it's fancy warlords and scumbags.. I mean i wouldn't complain my friends and I easily played hundreds of rounds of that in high school.

[@christopherhogben7231]

For the love of God, plz review Sea Salt & Paper!

[@giuseppesavaglio8136]

So its a variation / version of President / Deuces, interesting?

[@jeffreygenehk]

Seems like this game is quite close in spirit to Chinese big two, which you can play with a regular 52 card deck. I’d say just play that…a great pub game.

[@gregorymorrison5818]

Yet another banger from Brewster

[@somethingventured3]

Emily next week!?

[@Derek_Read]

The theme for this game bugs me a little bit. I was sure you had missed something but found in the rules (on the Kickstarter) this text: "*Card group is only used for flavor. There is no gameplay significance." This seems odd for something that is such a prominent part of the card design and that looks like what would function as a "suit". In the portion of the rules that describes the parts of the card they label this the "card group" (but then need to state right there that it is meaningless). The rules also discuss "weather cards" (also visually true, but also meaningless) which also kept me wondering until I found the text. Makes me wonder if perhaps the original Japanese version made use of this, or perhaps had an "advanced" game, or perhaps rules that were planned but that didn't work out. I suppose if that were the case then you'd need more than just the three "card groups".

[@VagabondTE]

Shout out to Skyjo. A small and simple card game just like this, that my neighbors and I got into. My favorite part is that you would build a little grid and scored the cards in lines. This took up tablespace, so not a good pub game, but I loved not having to hold a hand. Gets tiresome you know?

[@jasonpapworth4428]

All hail FORG!! I bend the knee

[@alexthorpe2522]

I opened this hoping FORG would be part of the game.

[@T47Night]

FORG!

[@bendavy1816]

Wait, you aren’t meant to eat Easter eggs from the top?

[@unlimitedrabbit]

Roleplaying as sad rabbits? My God. Do you mean to tell me that Quinns has played The Warren by Bully Pulpit Games? 🐇

[@SwedMsu]

Is anything a sleeper anymore once Shut Up and Sit Down covers it?

[@bonddizzle]

Its interesting how many of these little box card games are variants of the base game rummy. I wonder if you broke it down, how influential that game has been on the card game industry.

[@johanneswerner1140]

Ha! Yes, that's my thoughts exactly! So many card games just add (often minuscule) changes... It sort of upsets me, I feel short changed. We have a bunch of the culprits, the card game versions of dog and quirkle, for example. They are... fine. Easy to transport. I'd rather play Doppelkopf, though. Or even Skat (need to teach my kids...).

[@captainspongeboy]

Forg! Stole the show

[@walshd15]

Good forg

[@NexusBaum]

charming! but I have Scout and I'm not a regular card player. 😶‍🌫

[@fabianl2529]

Can we have a Forg! merch-shirt please?

[@thegamesninja3119]

Dealt! Vs Scout Vs Five Three Five vs Skull?

[@Gobledgoop]

…Hachi Train vs Nana Toridori vs Recurrring 😂

[@ClaudeAndTaylor]

​@@Gobledgoopvs alien vs predator!

[@VagabondTE]

💀 Skull for me.❤ I adore that game and I'm trying to build a collection of coasters just to have more sets.

[@Naeddyr]

There's a (mediocre) card game called 5211 whose name comes from hand-size(5), and that you 2 something then 1 something and 1 something again. Which is a weird way to name games, but maybe it's a Japanese trend and there's a number pun in there?

[@scardon1940]

Review mahjong

[@TomRauhe]

You guys left the EU, so a UK online shop is not a thing.

[@timphipps404]

I've heard this card game called many different things over the years - on wikipedia it's listed as "President (card game)". Looks like they've tweaked it just enough to claim it's something original and put it in a box. I mean, I love the game, but I wouldn't want to pay someone for a standalone copy that you can't use for other card games... am I missing something?

[@_rackel]

For me, if I am not mistaken, it is to similar to Durak (as I know it). So I agree with you, not worth the money

[@DanielHarveyDyer]

I did wonder how playable this would be if instead of 1,2,3,4,5, 7,8,9, 11, 12,13,14,15, you played with regular cards A,2,3,4,5, J,Q,K, 6,7,8,9,10.

[@jeffreygenehk]

Yes - I saw it and thought of big two - think it originated in southern China. A Hong Kong company put out “gang of four” which is just a streamlined version of that game without any bells or whistles.

[@MaxMick]

Inner monologues are not trustworthy

[@kennethstender5400]

Is Tom the only one still actually doing any work at SUSD?

[@SilentBeutlin]

SUSD last week: "Eurogames need to do more with their theme and need to innovate more mechanically to be worth talking about" SUSD this week: "This game is thematically and mechanically unremarkable to the point of being boring, but it's really fun to see what it does when you play it a lot!"

[@CompressionPolice]

Donor exclusive content? :/ As much as you'll say it doesn't affect the regular content schedule... It probably will.

[@2099EK]

I don't know why people think this channel only reviews light games.

[@xiaoxiao01]

wait is tom gay?

[@jordanbutts7440]

First

[@rorytaylor3029]

first

[@abeedo]

why

[@blitzworldwide6234]

'Member when SUSD was full of reviews of games that where actually interesting? I 'member. Also... 'Member Quinn? I 'member.

[@OutbackCatgirl]

maybe suggest some interesting games instead of just being stuck in the past then

[@bAtACt1X]

booooooooooooooooooooring

[@glazba777]

Seems like a really bad year for board games. Now SUSD reviews “fine” games. I miss Quentin.

[@EmpathyMrZeRo]

lazy review. not even 10 minutes.

[@OutbackCatgirl]

bruh it's a game that barely warrants 5 minutes

[@EmpathyMrZeRo]

shhhhhhh @@OutbackCatgirl

[@OutbackCatgirl]

@@EmpathyMrZeRo wait was this an in-joke the whole time lmao

[@Omega0202]

Forg!

[@LSCMrSandman]

FORG!