Mishimoto S-Line Intercooler Upgrade for my Mazdaspeed 3

[@ianmiller3050]

Your SFX, knowledge, and general presentation is spectacular man. I hope this channel does great things for you.

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Thank you for the kind words! I am glad that people enjoy the content I create!

[@ianmiller3050]

@@FiveFiveGarage Your channel has been helpful in deciding what mods I do to my Speed 6 and how I choose to do them!

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Glad to know the vids help! If I had the garage space I would love to grab a MS6. Originally that was the car I was hunting for when I came across my MS3.

[@tylerFC1]

Weird that everybody says you have to “cut off” your stock crash bar. Clearly you don’t and this is a huge relief as I’m installing my cx piping + TR8 this weekend.

[@UrbaneGarageCFl]

Your videos are always so well edited and put together. Great Job Randy! Now let that Speed3 BREATHE!!!

[@FiveFiveGarage]

That's the plan!

[@numinous4789]

Cool content, man. I also have a 2010 CBM Pu. I use a BNR S3 setup and am at ~390/385 whp/wtq. I went with a Treadstone TR8C and love it. Good choice on the S-line (bar and plate). I don't know much about Mishimotos on Speed 3s, and just went with the Treadstone because they're known to be great for us. I can appreciate trying something new, but it's also cool to see you stick with the proven bar and plate configuration.

[@FiveFiveGarage]

I originally was going to go with a Treadstone, but I was able to get such a great deal on the S-Line I couldn't pass it up. Most Speed 3s I have seen with the Mishimotos run the M-Line, the S-Line was just a few bucks more. Bar and plate was a must as I want to upgrade the turbo at some point. The only real downside of running the S-Line is that I am going to have to create a custom crash bar, the JBR bar I used doesn't locate the core properly in the grill opening. Sometimes trying something new is more work than you think!

[@theresaandkennywillett7818]

Excellent Vid! Glad things are looking up!!

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Thanks, bro!

[@chrisbaines9206]

Bro I totally missed this episode 4 months ago smh...the mishimoto looks more fitting the cx racing was way undersized.... definitely gonna read up on the temp difference between the 2 coolers....as I'm currently in CT during the winter my boost air and intake temps are between 65-73 depending on how cold it is outside... keep the vids going💯💯💯💯

[@John_the_baptized]

Yes! A new video! Loving this shit man. I really wish I could calm my mind around replacing the crash bar with an aftermarket one to get the Mishi FMIC or at least a TR8, but my paranoia gets to me

[@FiveFiveGarage]

I went back and forth with the idea of it too. Finally decided to go for it. I kinda wish Mazda would have designed the crash bar with the mindset of the tuner community wanting to stuff a big intercooler there!

[@Checkers_123]

John Nickel you can get the tr6! Doesnt require the custom crash bar. Its direct fit

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Exactly. The TR6 is a direct fit, no modification needed for the JBR bar. The TR8 is going to need some massaging.

[@TripppleP13]

Another great video. It would be cool if your new crash bar raised the M in the intercooler to be centered in the grill. But awesome content as always.

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Yeah that is bothering me. As I said in the video, I am going to buy the materials and weld up a crash bar so I can get it centered, I want to get as much of the core into direct air flow as possible.

[@sebastiancordero4816]

About to order the CorkSport large intercooler 👌

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Nice. I hope that someday I can get popular enough that companies will let me perform an intercooler shootout. I am bit of a nerd so I would like to see what the differences would be. Let me know how what you think of that CS cooler!

[@BigBrickJoee]

I know you mentioned you had to do some fab work to make the set up for but what exactly did you do? I’m trying to look at the difference of when you installed it and when you finished and I can’t seem to make out the differences. I’m trying to stall the exact same set up

[@FiveFiveGarage]

The crash bar ends were heavily modified because the bar sits the intercooler too low. It isn't perfect the way I did it, I am in the process of designing a new bar setup from scratch. Custom bar is the way to go with this intercooler.

[@RandyAugustus]

I need the name off those lights.

[@mrslow_ms3]

Hey Randy great videos great knowledge what piping did you use to get the S-line to fit and do you have the same CXRACING BPV

[@FiveFiveGarage]

CX Racing piping, but the BPV is a Ventus from SURE Motorsports.

[@andres66777]

Excelent Video !! Great job Randy. I´d like to know how much hp this intercooler support . Have you noticed an icrease of coolant temp because of covering all that radiator surface? Thank you very much

[@FiveFiveGarage]

The S-Line easily supports over 500 hp. Coolant temps haven't really changed much, I have air gaps so the flow isn't impeded too much. I am going to re-mount the intercooler this summer, I have some changes I want to make.

[@andres66777]

@@FiveFiveGarage ohh thank you very much Randy. I already have my S-line but It's not installed yet. I'll wait impatiently to see your upgrades.

[@Affadimond]

Great video mate

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Thanks for watching!

[@shaunpermanand]

Yess keep making these vids bro 💯👊🏽

[@FiveFiveGarage]

I'm on it!

[@shaunpermanand]

Five Five Garage bro im having problems with my speed 3. How can I contact you to ask you the questions I have?

[@FiveFiveGarage]

You can message me @fivefivegarage on IG

[@alexgut7277]

what brand couplers did you use?

[@FiveFiveGarage]

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072J8BFQH/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

[@wendercoelho9485]

Hey man great content, I wish I watched this video before the cx fmic. I am running the cx rn and it is very restrictive, I was wondering how could make the core fit with the bar? How did u make the brackets for the core? I got the s line core and want to mount it asap!!

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Depending on your gen MS3: www.graveyardperformance.com/collections/mazdaspeed/products/graveyard-performance-07-09-mazdaspeed-3-crash-bar That crash bar is designed to fit the larger intercooler cores (especially the M and S Line), save yourself the hassle and nightmare that I went through when I did mine LOL I remember reading somewhere that they might start working on a Gen 2 bar, might want to shoot them an email to be sure. But this makes it MUCH easier to install the S-Line. If that doesnt work I would highly recommend getting one custom made. The setup I used doesn't get the IC mounted high enough, I am redoing it when I get time.

[@bgbg7109]

Are you noticing more engine temps going up? Practically blocks out the radiator... i run the cobb fmic with a jbr crash bar and get nice flow into the engine as well

[@FiveFiveGarage]

I have been watching them with my Accessport no real big change. There is an air gap over the top so it is not fully blocking the radiator. But I feel like anything bigger than this might cause issues. One thing I need to sort out is that I think I am getting some weird under hood air flow issues since I still have the hood scoop just letting air in. I have been thinking of replacing the scoop with some form of an extractor vent.

[@user-yj2ed8rp6p]

How is the fitment on the CXracing piping for the core? For some reason I saw another video of this setup but instead of the elbow coupler he actually used a 2.5-3 coupler that you had originally, and it fit. I’m planning on installing this exact setup but would like to get everything organized before I attempt the installation. Sorry if this is a lot, love the videos bro!

[@FiveFiveGarage]

The 2.5-3" coupler will work, I just used an elbow as it was just easier for me, routing wise.

[@darkphantom881]

Where is the link for the piping you have I couldn't find it ?

[@FiveFiveGarage]

The piping is from a CX Racing kit I had used previously. This kit from RPM: www.therpmstore.com/store/p/892-CX-Racing-FMIC-Piping-customized-by-RPM-for-Mazdaspeed-3.html Is basically the same thing, minus the intercooler. You will have to source a 3" to 2.5" reducer for the S-line. I found some on Amazon.

[@BrownyTheGamer]

i have the M line i might switch over to the S line. lmk how it performs for you.

[@FiveFiveGarage]

I have had it in for a couple weeks now. The temps with the S-Line for me have been great, usually around 3 deg above ambient, during 90+ degree days. I wish I could get my hands on an M-Line for a test, maybe I can convince Mishimoto to send me one if I ask really nicely!

[@BrownyTheGamer]

Five Five Garage the M line is great. Temps are also around amb when wot but if the car sits in traffic it gets a little warm. But once you get moving it drops instantly

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Sounds like the S-Line. I almost pulled the trigger for the Eat Sleep Race edition M in the gold!

[@BrownyTheGamer]

@@FiveFiveGarage that's the one i got. check out my instagram, @MS6_MCCOON.

[@FiveFiveGarage]

I will check it out!

[@benjamindippo]

Do you happen to have the measurements for the location of the holes? Looking to go the same route when I go front mount.

[@FiveFiveGarage]

I don't. If you use larger than 2.5" piping you are going to have a bad time. The hot side piping gets super tight once you get near the radiator, The cold side isn't too bad but things get tight near the throttle body.

[@benjamindippo]

@@FiveFiveGarage I was referring to the holes to mount the core. Like how far from the outside edges of the crash bar are they. Sorry for the confusion.

[@FiveFiveGarage]

That I don't have. I have it torn down now as I am making a new crash bar setup or I would run out and measure for you!

[@wendercoelho9485]

When you got installed did the shifter plate hit the inteecooler pipes? Mine is hitting and shifting is stiff. What do you think I will have to do?

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Sounds like you need to make some adjustment to your piping. I just checked mine and I can a finger in between the shift plate and the TB pipe with the car in first gear. I would loosen the clamps and manipulate the piping to get some space and then tighten everything down.

[@wendercoelho9485]

@@FiveFiveGarage I will do that. Thank you so much man!

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Anytime!

[@mock022403]

Where did you get the reducer elbows from? I did the same thing and only ordered straight reducer couplers.

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Amazon: www.amazon.com/dp/B0725WC66F?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_dt_b_product_details

[@dorian8876]

Well done Bro!

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Thanks!

[@josuearroyo370]

I need the size off the intercooler

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Straight from the Mishimoto site: Core Height 12" Core Width 3" Inlet 3" Core Size 23" x 12" x 3" Overall Width 3" Overall Height 12" Overall Length 31" Construction Bar-and-Plate

[@josuearroyo370]

Thanks bro

[@AdamLorenzoRasp]

What size couplers are those 90 degree ones and link?

[@FiveFiveGarage]

The 90 degree couplers are 3" to 2.5", and I ordered them off of Amazon. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072J8BFQH/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1 Unfortunately, it looks like that particular coupler is not available at the moment.

[@jadielbeboify]

That intercooler can install with the back side on front? that letter M look rare lol

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Yeah. You can install it the other way without the M showing.

[@benjonesss]

how was the cx racing fmic compared to the stock top mount performance/heat soak wise?

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Slightly better as it is down in front and not sitting on top of the motor. Once you get in motion it will drop temps faster because of that. On a stock/close to stock car the CX core will do a good job, just make sure it is sitting in direct airflow. If you have any kind of tuning (> 300 whp), once you get some pulls in it will get heat soak just like the top mount.

[@jorgestark7785]

increase the lag?

[@FiveFiveGarage]

It is barely noticeable. I will sacrifice a little spool for the cooling benefits.

[@jorgestark7785]

@@FiveFiveGarage thanks for the information, your channel is excellent, now I myself will make the modifications to my generation 1

[@drugoodman374]

Bro can i have your stock crash bar and core?

[@FiveFiveGarage]

The crash bar is available, unfortunately that core is going to be used on another project.

[@drugoodman374]

@@FiveFiveGarage plz let me get it

[@dante04srt]

Does the Mishimoto have threaded mount bosses on the top & bottom or just the top? Thx!

[@FiveFiveGarage]

I just ran out to check, only on the top.

[@dante04srt]

@@FiveFiveGarage hey man, I really appreciate you checking that for me. Some of the pictures that I've seen show only holes on a top, other show holes on top and bottom. I'm not exactly sure what orientation I will need to mount to send for my particular application, so I'm hoping the one I ordered has both. We shall see. Thanks again man!

[@FiveFiveGarage]

No problem. I wonder if it is different for each line. I have the S, the M-line may be different. I do know that some of their other IC's have top and bottom bosses (I have one for my Miata project and it has both).

[@darkphantom881]

How has that setup with the mishimoto s line been performing I'm thinking of going with that setup any advice ?

[@FiveFiveGarage]

If you go with this setup, you are going to need to fab up a custom crash bar. It will make the fit far easier. I am actually going to weld one up this year to locate the core properly.

[@darkphantom881]

Ok sweet thanks man other than that have you had a problem with the set up

[@darkphantom881]

And can you send .e the link for the piping you got

[@FiveFiveGarage]

No problems with the setup. Last summer when it got really hot, I was able to do back to back pulls and the cooler would drop the temps to close to ambient. I am working on trying to isolate some of the underhood heat better, I think I am going to remove the scoop and replace it with a vent, that opening is just letting in air that can't escape and it might be affecting underhood air flow/cooling.

[@jordanl1761]

where did you get those 3x2 1/2 elbow couplings from? Trying to do a similar build. thanks

[@FiveFiveGarage]

amzn.com/B0725WC66F/

[@jordanl1761]

@@FiveFiveGarage are you selling a custom crash bar for the intercooler?

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Not at the moment. Over the winter I am going to buy the materials and weld up a custom bar so I can get the intercooler centered fully in the grill opening. When I do I will post a video showing how I did it.

[@moralatu]

Do you know if they sell just the cx piping or wich one do you think it will be a nice setup with the s line

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Piping: www.therpmstore.com/store/p/892-CX-Racing-FMIC-Piping-customized-by-RPM-for-Mazdaspeed-3.html You can also try contacting CX Racing directly to see if they sell just the piping, but I am not sure that they do. With the setup I have, I would recommend getting some kind of wrap for the hot side pipe that goes over the top of the engine. I highly recommend that you weld up a crash bar, the time I spent modifying the JBR bar to work, I should have just made one.

[@sq33qs]

Keep 'em coming Randy, love your videos. All the best. - Btw, Mishimoto cooler looks BOSS! :)

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Thanks!

[@1210blizz]

They don’t make a crash bar made for that intercooler

[@FiveFiveGarage]

True, they don't. I have found one that fits much better than the JBR I used, just waiting on it to get here (shipping during the holidays is horrible) so I can verify the fit myself.

[@1210blizz]

When you set it up let me know how it fits if you can remember. I’m looking to do o e myself soon

[@FiveFiveGarage]

Definitely. I plan on doing an update video about it.

[@jbaguam80]

Hey Randy great videos and cool to watch your build videos I sub'd to your channel and on IG. You have great knowledge. I have an 08 MS3 1st Gen. Wanted to see if you could assist me or if you have a video on it already. I have a CorkSports Boost Gauge and would you be able to provide any installation tips ? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you !