Critiquing the Best Stadiums in Europe!

[@FivePointsVids]

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[@twoswords5524]

Could we get best trophies? I'm not gonna lie, most of the NFL trophies (mainly the lambardi, NFC & AFC trophy and mvp ...i guess all of them) don't look appealing. So i'd be intrested in what you consider the best trophy both visually and lore

[@gallowglass2630]

Croke Park is more the pride of Ireland ,because its the third largest stadium in europe in a country that has only a population of 5million and the sports played there are unique to ireland and Amateur.Not dissing AVIVA its a great stadium but if you talking about pride of ireland in relation to stadiums its Croke park all the way

[@mognut1]

no twickenham? hey you bound to miss a few hahaha, great video

[@gallowglass2630]

@@mognut1 Very underrated stadium

[@Bobcatflyfish]

Johan Cruyff was one of the greatest player/coach of his generation, he did more to revolutionize the game of soccer than anyone could imagine, Ajax named the stadium after him to honor all that he did for the club, both as a player, coach, and academy director, it’s a bit like how the Packers named Lambaeu after their head coach

[@TheMILVSCR]

Can't forget his patent turn and change of direction...the Cruyff Turn

[@homerjones3490]

@@TheMILVSCR Guy doing the video must be AI

[@batti591]

@@homerjones3490 I don't think he even did cursory google searches for this video. If he'd done so, he' also know that that San Siro is infact a nickname and co-owned by both the Milan teams not just AC Milan.

[@bananapee86]

@@TheMILVSCR farts to the max

[@akjdhajkdjhaghjkadh9804]

ok?

[@matissenimmegeers5352]

"The Man City stands are packed" good one mate 🤣🤣🤣

[@BrySA20000]

bruh Cruyff literally revolutionizes football as a player and coach. He also arguably promoted the Diamond formation and the fluidity of the gameplay and also the mentor of Pep Guardiola.

[@laiks5485]

Not even arguably. All the things that are seen as default now (positional play, coordinated pressing) were implemented by Cruijff first.

[@jonathancastro6677]

Estadio da Luz was opened in 2004 ready for the 04 Euros, Emirates was opened in 2006 so the Emirates is a carbon copy of Estadio da Luz.

[@FivePointsVids]

dernit

[@pratikthapa6218]

Not really it was made by same architect

[@pratikthapa6218]

@@FivePointsVids it was made by same architect

[@berlinocelot]

Stadio da Luz actually has steeper tiers than the Emirates due to building regulations in the UK and also has about 4750 more seats than its north London counterpart so whilst strikingly similar they are not exactly the same.

[@paulpv7]

It actually opened on October 25th, 2003

[@primetime__179]

As a native from Dortmund I really appreciate you for putting our stadium at number one, yet the team is called "Borussia Dortmund" only. And the atmosphere is indeed one of the best in Europe; imagine the Tennessee fans against Bama last weekend but every week.

[@whosaidthat84]

I'm surprised he didn't mention it's other name Signal Iduna Park.

[@primetime__179]

@@whosaidthat84 we don't call it like that either. Five has a sense for tradition 💯

[@whosaidthat84]

@@primetime__179 gotcha. Thanks for filling me in

[@dario2149]

As an German I can confirm that

[@Bornevalesh]

It´s impossible to have the best atmosphere in europe, when it`s only the 10th best in Germany (max).

[@Igy0tic]

Local polish person here: the stadium in Gdansk has that color to resemble a piece of amber which is plentiful on the polish seaside

[@maxschmidt6533]

The Estadio da Luz actually opened 3 years before the Emirates and the reason they are so similar is that they were designed by the same architecture firm

[@stepanermilov3210]

Westfalenstadion is an incredible experience especially if you are a Dortmund fan. Such a great atmosphere, especially if it is a UCL night game. Can’t recommend it enough.

[@66BranDo]

Even I would like to visit that stadium, a Schalke fan. BTW the Schalke stadium is pretty cool, retractable roof and we can wheel out the complete pitch outside the actual stadium. The BVB stadium is in a different league, as is their squad...

[@appie2901]

Definitely agree. Went there last year to BVB - Ajax, electric atmosphere! Loved every second of it!

[@iancypes5911]

Speaking of Monaco, can we see your critiques of the Formula 1 tracks on the 2023 schedule? Great vid as always

[@stanyamish3996]

As a Marseillais, I'm happy you finally talk about my stadium. It went from one of the worst stadiums in France to one of the best in Europe with the 2011-14 renovation. Indeed, there are insults in French, especially when we host PSG but I won't tell them. The atmosphere is just insane on gameday. I went there for a rugby final and it was loud.

[@paolodonadoni1840]

What you highlighted at 3:40 is actually an old horse racetrack that's being torn down. The replacement under the current plan would be built on the parking lot you see on the top of the frame. Also said plans are quite unpopular, so I wouldn't be surprised if they change drastically in the near future

[@choogle4111]

Will be a sad day when San Siro gets knocked down. Such a legendary stadium.

[@markangelocalica1478]

As Italian and Fan of FC Internazionale Mailand, I'm Happy San Siro (or for us STADIO MEAZZA) made to the List. Unfortunately (like you mentioned), because the Taxes surrounded that Area and the cost to rent the place, they had to demolish and build a new Stadium called "The Dome", *BUT* there's a way to maintain San Siro alive by renovating the higher stands with building like Restaurant, Gym and Shopping Stores. San Siro is part of Italian History and home of the Battle of Mailand (in Italian has called DERBY DELLA MADONNINA) between AC Mailand and the FC Internazionale Mailand. I hope this Stadium remain in Function for years to come.

[@christianwestling2019]

An italian fan calling Inter "Mailand"? Che cosa?

[@samjgollings8664]

@@christianwestling2019 Mailand is the German translation of Milan, and there is a region in Northern Italy (Südtirol) where German is the dominant language rather than Italian.

[@christianwestling2019]

@@samjgollings8664 I know. But "Mark Angelo Calica" dosen't sound german. :)

[@borussiaredsox5269]

Being a Dortmund supporter and getting increasingly annoyed at the lack of Westfalenstadion, to only end up the winner, really was a rollercoaster of an experience haha

[@guigomes5073]

Estádio da luz opened in 2003 before the emirates even broke ground (2004) so we didnt copied and pasted their's, at best they did that (even though it was made by the same company).

[@chasemartins3359]

Idk how he fucked that up

[@mung710]

As a European, I was near instantly triggered...1. the Estadio da Luz was built before the Emirates in London - which is considered to have one of the worst atospheres in England, it's a poor stadium (even Arsenal fans agree on this one). 2. San Siro is NOT owned by AC Milan & the new stadium is NOT being build for a number of years or beside it. You missed out some amazing stadiums (but I know you didn't want to make it 60 mins long), but a great video!

[@seangarvey2972]

Woah woah woah Arsenal fans absolutely do NOT agree with you. I was there a week ago... was an unbelievable atmosphere and a wonderful place to watch footy. Please do not speak for us.

[@King_Mupasi_77]

The fact that Old Trafford is not here is actually not surprising Yes we love it but dude we seriously need a new stadium

[@davidcopeland5450]

F the Glazers

[@oisincantwell6882]

Don’t need a new stadium. That would be sacrilege. A renovation to modernise it would do

[@ZACKMAN2007]

That venue really had a fall from grace

[@antonellogiannuzzi6609]

San siro isn't owned and operated by AC Milan. It is owned by the city of Milan and operated by both AC Milan and Inter Milan. And they aren't building anything beside it

[@aleblasco39]

Before I continuing watching this video, the Civitas Metropolitano(it was named the Wanda Metropolitano until last season due to a publicity deal) wasn't rebuilt from the past stadium, it's a completely new one and in another zone of Madrid iirc. The old Estadio Vicente Calderón which was the stadium where Atletico de Madrid played before moving to the Metropolitano was near the Manzanares river iirc and you could pass under the stadium with a car since it was in the middle of an important highway that goes around Madrid.

[@aleblasco39]

After finishing the video, the LEGO Stadium thing from the Santiago Bernabéu is common through Spain as the other day I saw that you can also get a LEGO replica of La Romareda, the home of Real Zaragoza aka my team despite the team being in second division for 10 years now but I must say that the stadium is very old and in it's last days but it's a classic between the Spanish Football and the home crowd is pretty good

[@bananapee86]

@@aleblasco39 Licky on da pee

[@davidcopeland5450]

Fun fact about the Allianz is that of the two architectural firms responsible for its construction, one is also the firm behind building the Bird’s Nest in Beijing (Allianz is more attractive tho) and the other is responsible for architectural gems such as Apple Park (California), Marina Bay Sands (Singapore), the Sydney Opera House (Australia), and the Millenium Footbridge (London, UK). Hopefully the next time I get to visit the beautiful stadium that is the Allianz will be for an actual game!

[@bencrook44]

Thanks for showing the love to Cardiff, it is a fantastic stadium. The location is honestly unmatched too as you can leave the pub 10 minutes before your game and not have to trek across town

[@danieljamesmead]

Best football stadium I’ve been too (Liverpool). Love it. If we were to ever build a new one, that’s the one I’d want.

[@RyanCogar]

It's not as modern as some others as he states, but from what I can tell it was quite efficiently built/cost effective. Construction cost was around £248 million by 2022 inflation rates as opposed to wembley for example, which is close to £1.3 billion at the current rates. Definitely wins it's place on the atmosphere alone when it's fully kicking. 👍

[@NewtonX97]

Sorry Mr. Vids, I'm a bit late to the party, but I feel you're missing one. Croke Park in Dublin is Europe's third largest stadium (82,300)

[@albertmiller2electricbooga897]

Wembley's roof is definitely the best truss in England right now

[@FivePointsVids]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@LaVaZ000]

Signal Iduna Park is definitely one of my favourite stadiums in the world, saying this as a Bayern fan, the UCL night atmosphere is insane.

[@ViktorTheButcher]

Kudos for using Westfalen instead of the sponsor name. And Johan Cruijff is the greatest Dutch football player (even very high on the global list, top 5 is far from a hot take), the greatest legend in Ajax club history (on and off the field), a local hero as well, a philantropist and the most important pundit on Dutch television. His prime as a player was in the 1970s, but his influence (and that of his former coach, Rinus Michels) is still very noticeable today. Their total football, invented late 1960s, is basically the ground work for and invention of any modern offensive football system internationally: either inspiring it or being the exact blue print for it. And the stadium is for the majority financed by the city, which is also still the majority owner of the place.

[@tannerwilson4843]

Asian/pacific rim soccer is going to be in the spotlight big time over the next year or so as they will be a ton of big tournaments on the horizon. Besides the upcoming FIFA World Cup in Qatar. They is also a number of other major events coming up. 🇮🇳: FIFA U17 Women’s World Cup (Currently on going) 🇦🇺 & 🇳🇿: 2023 FIFA Women’s World Cup 🇮🇩: 2023 FIFA U20 World Cup 🇶🇦 : 2023 AFC Asian Cup

[@noobnooberson1079]

Benfica's stadium was rebuilt for the Euro 04 so how did it copy a stadium built 3 years later

[@Bodhi594]

You forgot to mention how Tottenham stadium soccer field moves and the NFL field is underneath the soccer field. Thanks for talking about stadiums in this sport.

[@ademirsegura6307]

It’s now called Google Stadium

[@LLuminated]

I love that most of these aren't in the middle of a sea of parking spots like US stadiums

[@brianpack5479]

Crossover with Wide World of Stadiums when!?

[@darthpeida1719]

estadio da luz opened in 2003 emirates stadiium opened in 2006

[@mindphaserxy]

Notice how most of these stadiums don't have humongous sprawling parking lots that's just wasted space. The stadiums blend into the urban fabric very nicely in most instances and aren't packed full of insecurity mobiles like fullsize pickups and massive SUVs. Well except for Atletico Madrid....their stadium was built over a highway 😂 As far as quaint and unique stadiums with lots of cool history nothing beats Craven Cottage where Fulham plays. It's like Camden Yards but for soccer. Some of the most intimidating games for the away teams are in Istanbul though. Nef Stadyumu where Galatasaray play is a fortress.

[@parmentier7457]

Johan Cruijff reinvented modern football. the Dutch played 'Total Football', which means that players changed position and formation during the match. Before that, players remained in a position where they were assigned for the entire match. Johan Cruijff perfected this playing style Johan Cruijff had made Ajax and Barcelona big clubs. He also humiliated the Spanish dictator Franco by winning 5-0 in Madrid. He named his son Jordy which was forbidden by Franco. Saint Jordy is the patron saint of Catalonia. However, Johan was of Dutch nationality and could name his son whatever he wanted. Due to the big wins over Real Madrid, the Catalans took to the streets to celebrate, but were sometimes beaten down by the Spanish riot police. Keep in mind that FC Barcelona was a mediocre club at the time and Johan Cruijff became their hero. Not only in sports but also politically. Johan never spoke verbally about politics, he did that with his feet. Johan had a philosophy that clubs should train their own youth players and train them in an attacking formation. Play attractive and coordinated football. His philosophy ensures that Ajax has the best youth academy in Europe and earn hundreds of millions euro annually by selling these youth players to top clubs. When Johan Cruijf died, both Ajax and Barcelona wanted their stadiums to be renamed after him. Eventually the Ajax stadium was called Johan Cruijf Arena and the second stadium of FC Barcelona Estadi Johan Cruyff.

[@FivePointsVids]

wow, that's amazing !

[@joewood99]

Braga's stadium (Municipal Stadium) not making this list is a huge oversight. Possibly the best and most unique football stadium there is.

[@AquaDagger]

Tottenham doesnt want the google earth update, it looks like a toilet bowl from the birds eye view

[@BRNOOB_]

Can't wait for critiquing best stadiums in South America, Asia, Oceania, Africa and ofc Antarctica!!

[@casper6405]

The fact that Cruijff never lifted a Worldcup is just unacceptable

[@maplejet]

I'd like to see a ranking video on all current NHL arenas. I think that would be cool

[@thequietdreamer2186]

5:30-5:34 That’s putting it very mildly… though the Brett Farve disses never get old.

[@TippiGordon]

Come for the Holy Grail clip, stay for the Brett Favre shade. * chef's kiss *

[@luedenscheid93]

After watching only a few minutes of this video. Tell me you are American without telling me you are American

[@tleoipl37]

Can’t wait til goddell gets 4 nfl teams in Europe and ruin everything 🤣

[@juliooquendo220]

If all NFL stadiums were built like this that would crazy

[@rabbi4skin666]

What are you talking about? all the new stadium is like sofi and allegiant and us bank stadium look very close or better than these stadiums

[@juliooquendo220]

@@rabbi4skin666 not like MetLife stadium needs a fixing or two

[@rabbi4skin666]

@@juliooquendo220 MetLife stadium is in New Jersey for the stadium for look nice it needs to be in a new state

[@juliooquendo220]

@@rabbi4skin666 ok what state should be

[@rabbi4skin666]

@@juliooquendo220 fuck it move the giants and jets to london

[@hifijohn]

I would be proud to riot in these stadiums.

[@pavlovdoorman]

In fact it's the Emirates that copies the Da Luz (opened in 2003).

[@danielcarvalho1028]

My friend, Benfica stadium opened in 2003, and Arsenals in 2006, kinda hard that Benfica copied it. But I think they were done by the same architect, so Arsenal didn't copy either, the same guy just did a similar one.

[@charliebarker7000]

Even though Turkey is Europe/Asia, for an impressive stadium, you have to check out “Bursa Timsah Arena” 🐊 Also Anfield is incredible for atmosphere

[@jasonleman1396]

these put the nfl stadiums to shame! we need more of the open air and covered seating ones!

[@mech-x-xavious]

Nah, nfl stadiums like Mercedes-Benz and Allegiant are the best ever.

[@YeeSoest]

Buddy, I love you so much ... #1 is about half a mile from where I am and you can't really put your finger on it but it IS #1. The HUGE stands that shakes under 25k jumping at the same time, the acoustics, the size...it's THE venue to experience true european football and everyone who's been there agrees that you HAVE to go if you can. It's like sports hajj basically

[@alljourney2834]

You should Critique the Greater Western Ohio Conference High school Stadiums

[@tomosprice8136]

The smaller stadium that backs onto the Millennium Stadium is The Cardiff Arms Park. The fact that it backs onto the Millennium is why theres a small section of the Millennium that only has 2 tiers (unlike the rest of the stadium with 3). This area is called Glanmore's Gap and is notorious as being the only part of the stadium without easy access to a bar.

[@abdulkadiral-mudhafari]

I'm pretty sure Estadio da Luz opened before the Emirates.

[@David-qq9bk]

exactly, 3 years earlier to be more precise. as a benfica fan i naturally stopped the video as soon as he said that and won't be watching one more second of it.. i'm getting tired of people disrespecting my club (and portuguese clubs as a whole tbh)

[@bryantsteury8910]

Ain't no Downside to using Upside. I've gotten 125 bucks back in a year and that's with mostly work from home. Definitely one of the sponsors I can get behind

[@RApollos107]

Surprised you didn't put Braga's, Benfica's or Porto's stadiums in this

[@PHDiaz-vv7yo]

As a Spurs fan, I agree it’s a crappy move that Google Earth haven’t updated their model of it. It’s like they’re waiting to sponsor it or something… Great to see the Westfalenstadion riding high. Love seeing the old grounds evolve and not need to be torn down and rebuilt As for San Siro, their new Cathedral will be beautiful (although an example of building a new ground- you could do a vid on upcoming new stadia, eg new San Siro, Roma, Everton…)

[@Raul-vh3gq]

How did Benfica (Estádio da Luz) copy the design if Estadio da Luz was inaugurated in 2003 and the Emirates was in 2006 😂

[@dj62394]

Westfalenstadion is the best in Europe. Nothing comes close to the atmosphere

[@OrioleFan336]

Good thing you don’t really follow European soccer otherwise you would’ve said the tired “Emptyhad” joke. I do want to go there one day tho!!

[@kostaskotoulas6542]

Not putting Anfield in this list is like not putting Lambeau in the list for the best stadiums in the USA

[@Smarod]

Or old Trafford or Stamford bridge.

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

It’s an historic stadium but technologically not one of the best like Old Trafford

[@Bobcatflyfish]

@@Smarod i’m ok with Old Trafford not being on the list, the stadium is in dire need of renovations and repairs, it’s practically falling apart

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

@@Bobcatflyfish yup same as a United fan it’s a shame in what state the stadium is in Either major renovations needs to be done or a new stadium on its site needs to be built but the Glazers don’t care

[@CamMackay96]

Anfield isn't all that special tbh, just because Liverpool used to be really successful doesn't automatically make the stadium great.

[@bigk8210]

For centuries Europe and Asia were thought to be separate continents. By the time it was discovered otherwise Europeans were not about to give up their continental status.

[@Josh-pj7tq]

Do you know what a continent is?

[@danielbowers8124]

A list you’ll not even have known was possible. Uk pro ice hockey “arenas” that’ll be a good one. You’ll understand the “arena” part when you start looking into the EIHL rinks

[@Julian_Wallis]

Progress can't be stopped but man, I miss some of the old English stadiums like Highbury, White Hart Lane, Boleyn Ground, etc.

[@SaadHaque72]

STADIUM VIDEO YAYYYYYY missed these

[@dennisud]

Nice to see so many great stadiums. Now to the next Continent!

[@sheffsteel7]

I understand the architects that did the Tottenham Hotspur stadium design strived to make it the best stadium in the world with loads of small unique details included.

[@fuzzyfishnutz4838]

STADIUM PRON FOR THE WIN. YOU KNOW WHAT WE LIKE, FIVE POINTS

[@manny96p]

1:47 Estadio da Luz in Lisbon opened in 2003. So wrong, Emirates Stadium (which opened in 2006) is the copycat of Estadio da Luz.

[@shaymerten173]

Old Trafford: “Am I joke to you?”

[@robs7163]

Old Trafford is big and iconic, but also in a state of serious disrepair. And I don’t just mean it’s old school like Lambeau or Fenway, it’s basically falling apart . Unless it gets some serious upgrades to its infrastructure, it has no place on a list like this

[@frankdocter]

Compared to these modern stadiums? Yes… Great atmosphere, but not a top notch stadium.

[@IAmConorr]

@@frankdocter by that logic though the San Siro or Camp Nou shouldn’t be on the list. Old Trafford is in much better shape than both of them. Anfield should also be on the list imo

[@robs7163]

@@IAmConorr agree about Anfield for much the same reasons as were given for the Westfalonstadion. But I do think Old Trafford is in a particularly bad state, and unlike Camp Nou and the San Siro nothing is actually being done about it

[@vascopereiradacruz9161]

I really hate benfica, but as a portuguese i can't stand the "estadio da luz copied and pasted". Estadio da luz finished construction in 2003 (and it was used in the 2004 euros). Emirates stadium finished contruction in 2006.

[@ryancarroll1697]

STADIUM FETISH HATH BEEN SATISFIED

[@Joe-uv9jo]

Anfield should have been on here, 53k capacity with a brand new main stand, work currently being done on another extension. Legendary stadium to say the least, if you're a fan of football you know about Anfield.

[@loganb.1984]

St. James park in Newcastle is a bad ass stadium that definitely should’ve made the list.

[@harrylewin9162]

stadium of light is better

[@Thatguyinyourclass]

Cruyff is considered to be one of the most influential people in football/soccer history. He was Ajex and Barcelona, he was the best player in Dutch history. The dude literally created the Barcelona style when he was there. He's more than Lambaeu, or Lombardi, or Paul Brown. Cruyff wasn't just a legend, he changed the whole damn game

[@FP99424]

"Estádio da Luz from Portugal copy and pasted it"? "Estádio da Luz" (Benfica) was open in 2003, The Emirates(Arsenal) in 2006

[@gubispranks3135]

Da Luz stadium was open before The Emirates

[@blahajlucie]

the estadio a luz actually opened before the emirates tho

[@krzysztofzwolinski956]

9:18 there was idea floating around to use national stadium for ski jumping. There is enough room to build small ski jumping infrastructure to be watched inside

[@johnrodriguez853]

I appreciate that you put the aviva on the list but croke park probably would have been a better fit. Still great video

[@stevendurick9441]

Love to see one of these for Australia

[@johnsantos681]

Yeh I’m from Portugal and I’m a Benfica Fan and our stadium was built for the Euro 2004 so a couple years before the Arsenal Stadium so technically they built their stadium from our Design. BENFIIIIIIICA 🦅 🦅

[@stevecooksley]

Thank you for not even considering putting my club's shitty London Stadium on this list. Do a shitty stadiums of Europe video and that should be near the top.

[@Nutelko8]

Amazing vid. Love it when you cover the continent im from.

[@HatTrick.]

Emirates stadium actually copied Estadio Da Luz not the other way around

[@GreekPele]

Westfalonstadion is now called Signal Iduna park if i’m not mistaken.

[@aztecwrrior1997]

I was wondering when you were gonna cover European Stadiums

[@raetekusu1]

You also have to crdit Tottenham Hotspur for their bold design choice to make the top of their stadium look like a goddamn toilet seat, which is just perfect for the shitty football they play week in and week out.

[@Vadex97]

On the Athletico Madrid stadium u made a mistake saying it got renovated, Its a whole new stadium their old one got demolished and was in a different area.

[@NeAZ]

That's not correct. Their new stadium is a renovation of an existing one built by the Community of Madrid.

[@RugbyWannabe]

I’m Welsh and quite frankly I feel personally attacked 😂😂

[@theomiado7954]

Calling Cruyff a legend is an understatement

[@zadafcb]

2 Polish Stadiums? POLSKA GURRRROOOOOOOOM (also, you absolutely butchered "Narodowy", awful, I love it)

[@johnathanhaley3822]

Cool to learn about these, only heard of Wembley stadium before.

[@MegaMegamann1]

Croke park is the best stadium in Europe by a distance. 82,300, 69,000 seats and loads of terrace space. I suppose because its a GAA stadium, and not much of those outside Ireland. Croke park is miles better than Lansdowne Road (or the Aviva), which is a small ground of only 51 000. Some pretty average stadium. I Monaco never gets more than 5,000 for home games.

[@GuyOnABuffalo82]

The track was removed from the Etihad when it was converted in 2003.

[@celticwarrior8574]

*reads the title of the video* LFG!!!!!!!!!!

[@thequietman760]

The pride of Ireland is Croke Park Dublin

[@jackzzz6469]

its not the building that makes the stadium, its the people and atmosphere.

[@nleak92]

In terms of the Emirates its the other way round. They copied the stadium of light in Lisbon

[@fritzgordon2470]

Fun fact: The Emirates Stadium actually copied from the Estadio da Luz since it was build in 2003 for the 04 euros in Portugal

[@Josh-pj7tq]

How is the Aviva there instead of Croke Park?

[@marcelpopa347]

Estadio da Luz was build before the Arsenal stadium, in 2003, its a copy, but the other way around