Fix Your Ford - Injection Pump Pull and Repair

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themadmailler

themadmailler

Күн бұрын

When it sits, it shits! The metering plunger stuck on my Roosa-Master injection pump on the Ford 881D. Here is how to remove, cluelessly disassemble and poke at, and re-install an injection pump!

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@palcalder
@palcalder 5 жыл бұрын
I have a JD450-CC that had the same problem. Hadn't been cranked in two years and I couldn't get diesel to the injectors. I had planned on taking the pump to a shop to get it overhauled. Your video saved me a lot of trouble and money. Thanks a lot.
@joeholland428
@joeholland428 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking time to make and post a video on this.
@jamesmcqueen6038
@jamesmcqueen6038 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you have videos because when i have a problem I'm looking for your videos to help me solve it. You have a lot of common sense. You should run for congress and defeat one of those crazy democrats . I truly believe you would win. God Bless You my friend.
@bmxericjamessamelson6636
@bmxericjamessamelson6636 3 жыл бұрын
Grate video explaining on how the pump works and freeing up the metering valve. I think I just figured out why my 6.9idi quit running, I'm hopeful
@danbecker9391
@danbecker9391 8 жыл бұрын
I have a Ford 4500 backhoe. After letting it stand too long, the CAV pump stopped working. I removed the fuel line and one of the injector connections and sprayed WD-40 into them while someone turned over the engine. It took a couple of days....periodically repeating the process but it's a lot easier than removing the pump. All of a sudden it started working again. Works great now!
@aaronevans8349
@aaronevans8349 7 жыл бұрын
First thing I noticed was no fuel inside the injection pump.
@joeholland428
@joeholland428 2 жыл бұрын
Looking through your videos I ended up subscribing to you. you have alot of videos that interest me.
@hardinelders8457
@hardinelders8457 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch for posting. A friend just gave me an 801 that hasn't been started in a long time and this video gave me just what I needed. AAA+++
@downrange2107
@downrange2107 7 жыл бұрын
I know it's about 2 years later but those j hooks keep the throttle shafts together just be careful when you loosen the governor spring for which the weights on the timing wheel some times slip out of there slots then you will have to tear the pump down unless you get lucky and some times you can have a hard start from the blades inside or delivery valve in the head or wear from the head depending on the injection pump
@eastpointer1304
@eastpointer1304 8 жыл бұрын
had the same problem with a ford 3600 cav pump. using a can of starting fluid start and try 2 keep it running with a few short hits of starting fluid it will speed up and slow down after a couple of tries it took off on fuel.saved removing and dissassembly.
@themadmailler
@themadmailler 8 жыл бұрын
+Kelly Cheverie I actually tried this in desperation, to no avail.
@whoreallycares8129
@whoreallycares8129 7 жыл бұрын
I have a 1984 Mitsubishi Mighty Max turbo diesel that I sometimes have problems with after it has set for a while. What I found was air gets into the fuel system and at the filter there's a primer pump that I sometimes have to use to get it to start. It acts like it's not getting fuel and that's what it is. If you didn't try this the first time maybe keep it in mind and just verify your fuel system is purged of air before removing the pump. Just a thought. Good luck - that thing sure looks like I'd have some fun taking it for a ride.
@MrHevyshevy
@MrHevyshevy 2 жыл бұрын
I learned some stuff. Thanks.
@dougcrawford2587
@dougcrawford2587 8 жыл бұрын
A while back I met up with a guy that had a Dodge Cummins pickup ... One thing he taught me about diesel engines was that due low sulfur in the fuel lacks lubrication... A hint he taught me was to add two quarts of Dextron II ATF (not type F) in with his fuel .. This added the lubrication needed for the injection pump and injectors ... I've been adding this to my fuel ever since.... Not only does the fuel injection pump go from 150 miles before repair it goes now up to 300 miles before an overhaul or replacement ... Might be something you may want to try..
@claytonharper2323
@claytonharper2323 7 жыл бұрын
300 miles? As in 300,000?
@MYsequinedsky
@MYsequinedsky 6 жыл бұрын
nice to see how many subscribers your video helped :)
@jeffhovel7899
@jeffhovel7899 6 жыл бұрын
Great Job thanks for the video.
@MrBugsier5
@MrBugsier5 7 жыл бұрын
you can check for runaway problems by putting the stop on, and thry when bleeding *no feul, no runaway.
@swamisMotelBand1
@swamisMotelBand1 7 жыл бұрын
thank you ..these have been helpful...best of luck
@steelguitarsohio
@steelguitarsohio 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video tutorial. Question - How do you remove the injectors on this model? I have a Ford 4000 Industrial 4 cyl. and it is quite similar.
@themadmailler
@themadmailler 3 жыл бұрын
remove the two bolts and pry it out. pry on both sides to pull it evenly.
@macyfish7940
@macyfish7940 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@bshargett
@bshargett 5 жыл бұрын
Could you show the link where you got the diagram for the pump thanks
@martinw9425
@martinw9425 5 жыл бұрын
good job ...done right.
@tommcdonald1746
@tommcdonald1746 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a 1958 Ford 861 and diesel fuel is leaking into the crankcase and I have read several time the injector pump seals has been known to go bad and leak fuel in the crankcase. I think a lot people call them umbrella seals because of their shape. I was hoping I would see you changing those seals in your video. Anyway, do you have any information for a DIY on how to change these seals. I've searched Google and KZbin and haven't found anything. Also, what was the block of wood for? Thanks. Tom
@themadmailler
@themadmailler 5 жыл бұрын
you can pull the driveshaft out of the pump to replace those seals. Apparently it can be a trick to get the shaft and new seals back in due to the shape of the seal. there is a special tool, but ive heard that a zip tie works well to compress the lip.
@thegoatmudtruck2646
@thegoatmudtruck2646 4 жыл бұрын
Have a 801 power master diesel, same pump, when starting, the engine revs at high rpm's and doesn't come back down, until it reaches too high rpm's then it's fine, afraid gonna blow the engine. Any help will be appreciated
@themadmailler
@themadmailler 4 жыл бұрын
sounds like the metering valve is sticky.
@paulbains9152
@paulbains9152 Жыл бұрын
Theres 2 snap ring clips on your throttle shaft , with a long and short side . On the one over the left side , the long side arm isnt doing anything , it was probably put in , because they didnt have a 2 short sided clip , thats ok . If you pull that clip off , you can then slide your throttle shaft out to the right . But first you need to pop that right side pin off as well . This is the interesting part , its in backwards .The long end of that pin should be on top , which it is , but facing in the other direction . The flat cut in the shaft , drives that pin . It pushes on the governor linkage , and causes shut down when the linkage is all the way off . the govenor linkage also rotates the fuel delivery valve . If it dosent turn , you dont get fuel .
@HeritageExplorer
@HeritageExplorer 7 жыл бұрын
I note that you used WD40 on the metering valve and it seemed to sort the problem for you. I have a similar problem on a Delphi pump where I think the metering valve may be sticking as the tractors response to the throttle is sometimes very slow. It does not happen all the time. I am thinking of trying your solution in the following way. I do not want to remove the pump from the tractor as I do not want to get involved with timing complications etc. I was going to disconnect the incoming supply and the injection lines and drain the pump of its diesel. Then squirt in a full can of WD40 and leave it to soak in over night and then drain off. Could this basic approach provide me with the same result as you achieved?
@themadmailler
@themadmailler 7 жыл бұрын
I used WD because it was at hand. If i were you i'd run a heavy concentration of Marvel oil in it to free it up. Don't be afraid of removing the pump... it's a tedious task to put it back on but not awful. The more you do it the easier it is, and i sure have had some experience taking off this pump...
@chargermopar
@chargermopar 7 жыл бұрын
It really is obscene what the diesel shops charge for repairs. I have to rebuild my injection pump every year because I run vegetable oil. The vane pump gets stuck when it sits too long and the whole pump benefits from a thorough cleaning.
@themadmailler
@themadmailler 7 жыл бұрын
a pump rebuild every year? that's ridiculous. any cost savings of WVO is going out the window with that rebuild. are you switching to diesel before shutting off the motor each time?
@chargermopar
@chargermopar 7 жыл бұрын
I never switch fuels because they end up mixing in the tank from residual return. The rebuild is only 30 dollars of seals and a couple of hours in my shop. I clean the fuel tank twice a year. If you don't clean out the pump yearly deposits build up and it stalls at idle. The advance plunger can get stuck and it can run retarded making extra smoke.
@themadmailler
@themadmailler 7 жыл бұрын
Oh you're rebuilding yourself? not too bad then. Still a royal pain to take the pump off and re-time and re-install each year. are you filtering the WVO first? Or maybe you can look into making your own biodiesel out of the WVO instead. That's nice because you can easily exchange regular diesel and biodiesel in the same tank.
@chargermopar
@chargermopar 7 жыл бұрын
I used to make biodiesel but it got to be expensive and I was losing too much energy from the vegetable oil. In 2009 I went full WVO and ran fine till winter 2012 when I seized my pump in cold weather. In 2013 I started the yearly rebuild and no breaks since then. I centrifuge the oil and Ph balance it to avoind corrosion.
@themadmailler
@themadmailler 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Sounds like you got it to a science! What vehicle do you run it in?
@juanwhitley1731
@juanwhitley1731 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry need to know if i have to retime the tractor when i install new pump
@themadmailler
@themadmailler 4 жыл бұрын
This video details how to do that.
@jjano2320
@jjano2320 Жыл бұрын
You might be able to take the cover off without pulling the pump.
@paulbains9152
@paulbains9152 Жыл бұрын
Yes you can , and save yourself a whole lot of timing work .
@stefanoancona7642
@stefanoancona7642 Жыл бұрын
A Stanadyne Pump?
@themadmailler
@themadmailler Жыл бұрын
Roosa-Master. I believe stanadyne bought them at some point.
@paulbains9152
@paulbains9152 Жыл бұрын
Yes , DB style . some have an electrical stop solenoid , some use the long end of the hold in C-clip to stop it mechanically . Hes got the mechanical version , if you look at the inside of the cover , theres no solenoid .
@shaggydogg3786
@shaggydogg3786 5 жыл бұрын
Have you tried “ Power Service”? Seems to keep that problem at bay...
@themadmailler
@themadmailler 5 жыл бұрын
fresh fuel, loaded up with lubricity additive!
@peggywyrick1621
@peggywyrick1621 6 жыл бұрын
How do I order the repair manual for the roosamasterfuelpumpinjection 480LL???
@peggywyrick1621
@peggywyrick1621 6 жыл бұрын
Please send info to peglegs110@juno.com.
@jimbuford4147
@jimbuford4147 7 жыл бұрын
I watched it all the way through but what exactly was the problem?
@themadmailler
@themadmailler 7 жыл бұрын
the metering valve was stuck and i was not getting fuel to the injectors, so i had to take the pump apart to loosen the valve up.
@Skodak96
@Skodak96 2 жыл бұрын
@@themadmailler i know im late but can't his be done on the engine? Gonna be working on one today and I feel that I could just get it while on the engine.
@themadmailler
@themadmailler 2 жыл бұрын
@@Skodak96 I don't have this tractor any more, but I doubt I would have taken the pump off if I didn't need to. I think the loader arms were in the way. If you had a clear shot, definitely do this with it on the tractor!
@ronobrien7187
@ronobrien7187 3 жыл бұрын
Roosa Master pumps generally suck.
@BIGBAMBOO420187
@BIGBAMBOO420187 8 жыл бұрын
SAVED YOURSELF $691.00
@themadmailler
@themadmailler 8 жыл бұрын
+BIGBAMBOO420187 First rule of repair... if it's already fucked, you can't do any damage trying to fix it...
@juanwhitley1731
@juanwhitley1731 4 жыл бұрын
Cant find a video of how to replace a fuel injector pump on a deisel 1976 ford 3600 series tractor. Need to know that particular make and módem and series needs yo be retimed when u install the new injector pump
@chrisscott1547
@chrisscott1547 5 жыл бұрын
The distorted audio caused by overlevel is very distracting.
@braddeyoung8701
@braddeyoung8701 3 жыл бұрын
Fix Or Repair Daily.
@fcarp1685
@fcarp1685 8 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence you posted this! After many years of trying I finally bought my grandpas 981 diesel and it is leaking at the backplate on the pump! Thanks for going through this.
@themadmailler
@themadmailler 8 жыл бұрын
+fcarp1685 Glad it helped! have fun with gramps' tractor! it's great to keep it in the family.
@fcarp1685
@fcarp1685 8 жыл бұрын
+themadmailler So I got my pump back and installed (I believe correctly). It seems like the overall rule is that as long as you are on 18 degrees with the pump marks lined up and it is all still lined up after 2 rotations of the engine the tractor is good to run. Is that a correct assumption? (I haven't owned a diesel until now)
@themadmailler
@themadmailler 8 жыл бұрын
That sounds right. You also have to make sure that when flywheel and pump marks are all aligned for timing purposes, #1 cylinder has to be at TDC compression. I believe that the Ford motor is a little bit foolproof because the drive tang is odd shaped and only goes in one way, so you can't accidentally install it 180 degrees off. You should be fine, bleed those lines and see if it fires off!
@fcarp1685
@fcarp1685 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you!
@fcarp1685
@fcarp1685 8 жыл бұрын
+themadmailler Well my Ford is now running thanks to this video! thanks!
@robertharelson124
@robertharelson124 3 жыл бұрын
Sifting through a lot of terrible images online, your video actually solved a problem I had with the shutoff j clip reinstall. Amazing quality and thanks for sifting through the manual! I had to tear down and completely reseal the pump.
@themadmailler
@themadmailler 3 жыл бұрын
glad i could help!
@laneburgess1643
@laneburgess1643 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and very informative. Thanks for making it
@themadmailler
@themadmailler 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@VeryMuchBlessed
@VeryMuchBlessed 6 жыл бұрын
Good video and very helpful. Thanks much.
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