I call it ‘turn and drop’, Jeff. Maybe best to get rid of the terms ‘take back’ or ‘backswing’. Great video, Jeff!
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@justingannon19393 жыл бұрын
Jeff, I always get immediate results from watching your lessons. Elbow the enemy transformed my serve for a year (although I have retreated to old ingrained habits and can't seem to get is back) but this is exactly what I need to do, and used to do when my forehand was a killer shot. I have gotten too long and do exactly what you call breaking the plane. I call it casting because when I do it, I end up late, have to accelerate my racquet so fast that I lead with the racquet head and lose all leverage for power and control. Wish it wasn't raining today and I could hit the court with your reinforcing lesson in mind. You are awesome !!
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, thank you for sharing!
@hectorpatino92053 жыл бұрын
Dear watcher I'm here to tell you: train this and you will see an improvement of your forehand, I watched this video 3 days ago and have been training and filming myself since then and it works. Keep practicing.
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, thank you for sharing!
@jensericsson10623 жыл бұрын
Splending instruction ,Jeff👍
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@michalbartos17923 жыл бұрын
Yes, it works. I have completely changed my forehand 3 years ago. Before used the eastern grip, now semi western. On fast hard courts, almost the none take back gives me enough time. Good video, just happy I made that change.
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome to hear!
@jakefan773 жыл бұрын
Great video Jeff, 4.5 player here, in your previous forehand video i like your tip on spacing, combining with this video I’m really trying to fine tone my forehand to the next level, a more consistent weapon. And it’s working. Thank you.
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you for sharing!
@laitian9123 жыл бұрын
Great instructions if you want a breakthrough from 3.5 to 4.0 and up! We witnessed Thiem improved his game by doing that. Thanks Jeff!
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thank you for watching.
@0296jada3 жыл бұрын
I've had a long back swing for years but the older I've become the more difficult it has become to time the ball effectively. This is the answer if I can shed my long back swing habit.
@thatspreposterous Жыл бұрын
Playing tennis 25 years. Only just realised I did this too when I filmed myself slow motion! Thanks for this, looking forward to trying out the new swing, feels so quick like you said!
@ignacionunez6123 жыл бұрын
Would love to see more advanced drills on this - I have done a lot of drop feeding and ball machine, but when I am in match play i film myself and see that I revert to the tailed forehand
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback and will add your request for future videos.
@kucseramisi Жыл бұрын
In general the professionals are ladies, and there are also men who use the felt technigue!
@felipeqmoraes3 жыл бұрын
I will go train this right now
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, let me know how it went!
@TerrenceKeenan Жыл бұрын
Yes, will try tomorrow.
@pinoabbate55593 жыл бұрын
very interesting, I think it saves time in opening the arm. thank you
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
@keithsampson90573 жыл бұрын
Jeff, I do not have an efficient as forehand as I can, but will use these tips to improve. Thanks, Jeff
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, let me know how it went!
@robertocfaguiar3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, new gen. tennis.
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
@Giul_i03 жыл бұрын
best video out there about this topic. Loved it. It's a common problem these days to get the players to raise the elbow up during the backswing phase
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@belmirovalente9843 жыл бұрын
Great as always!!! Thank you, Jeff.
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
@eduro1660 Жыл бұрын
Good job!
@scoogsy3 жыл бұрын
I was just like you with a huge backswing. As you said, slows everything down and makes it way harder to time the ball. Your instructions make a lot of sense 😊
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Glad to help.
@andygarcia66193 жыл бұрын
You so right as the game is so fast today 💪🏻
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Well said ;)
@TennisLifeTV3 жыл бұрын
This is something I’ve worked on for the past 6 months and I do agree with many of your points. However, i think it’s important to note that the “modern forehand” technique isn’t the only answer to developing a nice forehand. Del Potro, gonzalez and cilic have a bigger backswing and they have amazing forehands. Personally, I think kyrgios and jack sock’s forehands are outliers and their motion is a bit extreme. (Maybe even Berrettini) Another thing to mention would be that the “modern atp forehand technique” is quite strenuous to one’s wrist and forearms. (I believe the smaller the backswing, the more stress our wrist and forearm would receive) So this instruction should be taken with care when it involves developing juniors. Still, an awesome lesson! 👍👍 Great video!
@bournejason663 жыл бұрын
Can you elaborate why it’s more strenuous to wrist and forearm? 🙏
@marisebenes4133 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you!
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Glad to help.
@tenisaddict3 жыл бұрын
Good! I must correct my big looping FH into this short swing version of yours...as it frustrated me a lot by hitting late all the time lately!
@oliverrivera94113 жыл бұрын
Great instruction Jeff!That forehand reminds me of Thomas Muster, Michael Chang,Lendl and Becker with the elbow up.
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Slipfrolife2 жыл бұрын
From players youve mantioned only Lendl backswings with elbow up and only Muster have compact swing with early flat racketdrop. Chang is perfect example of full loop ;) Other old player with high elbow backswing was Sampras for example Cheers!
@alexl87823 жыл бұрын
ty so much! help me a lot!!
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Glad to help.
@walailuklekprasarn65542 жыл бұрын
This is the exact problem I have. I always struggle with my forehand. Hope with your tips I can improve my forehands
@fernandoprete53103 жыл бұрын
Top tip! Let's put in practice!
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Way to go!
@FredScales3 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to try this out!
@mlbaker403 жыл бұрын
Great video. All your videos are great. Your message is always so easy to understand. Love the dirty diaper.
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
@mlbaker403 жыл бұрын
@@TennisEvolution I watch your videos and then watch again because it anchors concepts. It's constant school work that I love to do.
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
@@mlbaker40 That's awesome to hear, keep it up!
@jimtodd91963 жыл бұрын
I am not efficient with my FH. As I've slowly improved, my FH has become more of a weapon when I hit it correctly but also more inconsistent. Either it's too flat and I catch the net too often or, especially when the opponent hits harder than I'm used to, I constantly feel very rushed and hit the FH all over the place. I will definitely try this tip at my next practice session and see if it feels like something I should concentrate on. Being in my late 50s, I definitely don't want additional stress on my arm/shoulder. But many tips of Jeff's I have implemented with good results (not ATP results, of course). Online tennis instruction is like a salad bar: take what you like and leave the rest as others may be able to enjoy/use those tips that just aren't right for you. For example, I tried earlier this year to switch from Eastern to SW grip and it was a complete and utter disaster. No consistency, no spin, no pace. After several practice sessions for 4-6 weeks, I said 'to heck with it' and went back to the Eastern. Some players use the SW grip wonderfully and others don't. Doesn't mean a tip that says 'try using the SW grip' is wrong. Jeff, I appreciate all the tips you give even if I don't (or am unable) use them to improve my game. Keep up the great work and content!
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, appreciate your nice comment and support!
@xuyencpanguyenson93612 жыл бұрын
My forehand not effecient because I make letter C backswing. Your idea is the same my thinking . Balls come too fast so if I make C then I dont have time to turn my hip before arm!!!! Great thanks to you.
@yasim94353 жыл бұрын
Great tip! But with shorten take-back, would speed of the racquet drop at contact and so it hast to be compensated with faster wrist move /slap and as a result higher probability of an injury or tiredness? Can you compare take-back techniques for the effect on developing tennis-elbow injury?
@randallchinn18503 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff, I'm confused a little bit. At 5:00, you say that too much emphasis is placed on the loop and the "C" curve. Are you saying that we don't need a loop at all?
@gregwall20233 жыл бұрын
I always say my one handed backhand is better than my forehand because it is more simple of a motion and I don’t over think about it. Whereas, the forehand I am overthinking and it is more prone to errors. I like this more simple approach and will give it a shot.
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, let me know how it went!
@ak-iy4yb Жыл бұрын
Very interesting!! I have always wondered what the swing mechanism is with those players. It feels very very short though. When I practiced it with a ruler, it felt like the ball was gonna go a few feet only. For me, the hardest part lately has been loosening up the wrist. I started playing more than 10 years ago but took 7 years of absence and just came back a few months ago. Then I realized I played wrong all along with the lack of lag and just implemented the c loop. Now I might have to retrain myself all over again... :(
@mobeenrehman23792 жыл бұрын
I have the same issue. I’ve practiced for over a year to fix it. Perfect during shadow swings, go back to the tail swing as soon as I’m hitting on the court.
@thurlestonetennis24473 жыл бұрын
Great advice if you are going to play on the ATP tour, but we do not see balls coming fast at us; probably much slower than WTA players. Most of us would love to hit the ball like Sloane Stevens or Simone Halep. Far better to work on using the kinetic chain to improve our efficiency, IMHO. But still an instructive video; horses for courses.
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, well said!
@mehdiborghei81062 жыл бұрын
Hi I was aware about my backswing type until I get video of it and then it is huge loop with breaking the plan.i should correct it .oh thank you jeff
@BaronStrategic3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Any advice on staying relaxed on the take back but not so relaxed u just slap at the ball?
@therealkylekelly3 жыл бұрын
great video jeff, I was wondering if you could do a backhand analysis of Djokovic and explain all the details about his footwork, his takeback, etc? He's the most dominant force tennis has ever seen, I think we could all learn a thing or two from his gameplay.
@MrXaviko13 жыл бұрын
Jeff but what about the theory of djokovic that point the face racquet vertical to the back of you? You teach this video on the foundation program membership pls let me know
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Hi Xavico. That was more of the traditional forehand. The game has evolved over the last couple of years, which has required players like Djokovic, Nadal, Federer, among others to change a bit their technique. The backswing I show in this video corresponds to what we are currently seeing in the pro game, particularly on the men's side where players hit the ball harder. As a result, you have less time to prepare on your forehand or backhand.
@azamqureshi65322 жыл бұрын
Can a high take back fix this same problem? I just feel when I do it the way you’re describing, I do not get a feel. Any suggestions? I definitely have a tail and my forehand pretty inconsistent, 4.0-4.5 player.
@novz193 жыл бұрын
I try this and its good for fast low balls, but I struggled in high bouncing balls .and made me think I have to go back with my WTA style swing
@dr.e.r.blomgren3 жыл бұрын
Excellent instruction!
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
@axelandersson91753 жыл бұрын
I have a Good forehand but i struggle with the backswing i feel like i cant have the same backswing every time i hit the ball, so every time i play i switch backswing, is that good or bad?
@coachmichael960410 ай бұрын
TOTALLY agree with the"tail", many younger players have this "tailed"-backswing, yes, you see that more on the WTA, no way players get away on the men's tour, it just takes too much time ❗❗❗❗
@lloydmacaya33113 жыл бұрын
With this technique, I would then have issue with high balls, any advice for those shoulder level? Thanks
@erianmaxcic60522 жыл бұрын
What is wrong with the forehand in 01:06? It is more WTA forehand but I see no problem playing like this.
@ignacionunez6123 жыл бұрын
Let’s say you’ve had a tail on the forehand for 15 years and you’re now 30 years old and playing at Usta 4.5. How long would it take to change to the shorter backswing if you happen to have a slinger bag and drilled every day after work?
@ginawilliams75773 жыл бұрын
So will I! My forehand is my worst shot - feels like everything is wrong about it - and I was taught to make a big loop, so am always late on the shot (also always too close to the ball too), but this sounds promising! Will try it. Thank you - great demo.
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, let me know how it worked!
@arikrause30432 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff, fellow lefty here. Do you recommend this style of backswing no matter if you have a tail or not? In other words...is this the ideal prep for a forehand? Also, I saw an awesome video you made on the serve last week and can't find it now. It's the one where you advocate an abbreviated/simplified motion. Toss and turn your hips and shoulder (shoulder moves 6 inches back). Please let me know what video that was.
@gkount813 жыл бұрын
A thousand likes isn t enough for this video!!!
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@igorbobkov1323 Жыл бұрын
We're on same page with you on "pet the dog "!!
@redrocklead3 жыл бұрын
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@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! appreciate the information.
@BIGLOVE4TRUTH3 жыл бұрын
The “pet the dog” analogy helps drive the muscle memory for me when I practice this.
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Great!
@downshiftgolf10 ай бұрын
This is so good (coming from a guy with a forehand tail)
@TonyaMezrich-v2q5 ай бұрын
No! But I will try this!!!
@berkantavc76683 жыл бұрын
Waw!
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Hope you liked it!
@CioDeN3 жыл бұрын
@@TennisEvolution sir can you make a video with this forehand technique using a western forehand grip?
@diegosalamanca90073 жыл бұрын
You guess my problem :0
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
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@counsela92403 жыл бұрын
😀
@danieldangelo79373 жыл бұрын
7 thumbs down are people who have tails.
@abdelrahmanpo6734 Жыл бұрын
6:10
@paddlepower8883 жыл бұрын
I wanna take you in a time machine fifteen years to teach yourself this backswing. You'd have been top ten? Cheers!
@irishtickles3 жыл бұрын
Seems not unlike the mechanics for returning the serve.
@redrocklead3 жыл бұрын
Especially a big server.
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@fredrikakraft98463 жыл бұрын
No not efficient, my trainer teach me to do the backloop you showed. Will train this from today!
@TennisEvolution3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, let me know how it works!
@chrismarklowitz10013 жыл бұрын
Why is it wrong to drop the raquet straight back that way there are tennis coaches that advocate that as an option.