Fixed: Dental Implants Abroad

[@melt2947]

People don’t understand how much aftercare there is involved, including care and investigation beforehand, often with a prostodontist, as well as a periodontist. I had mine done in Australia. Excellent doctors, and I admire your work and skill as well, Dr. Thank you for your channel.

[@drgurssehmi]

This is so true! It sounds like you are in good hands! 😁

[@melt2947]

@@drgurssehmi I believe so..thanks again for sharing your knowledge with us on this channel. It’s invaluable.

[@markblack-h4b]

@@drgurssehmi yeah but how far to travel for aftercare

[@DentalInstituteofIstanbul]

As dental professionals in Turkey, we agree with everything Dr. Gurs tells in this video.

[@starmap67]

Horrifying😢 I wish people understood how valuable our teeth are and how important it is to look after them

[@mpjkea2000]

I used a dentist in Turkey for crowns only and can say the results are fantastic, zirconia crowns. The surgery was absolutely filled with all up to date technology, as I could compare it with the implant surgery I use in the uk of which I have had 5 implants. My implant surgery charges are very reasonable compared to having to travel to Turkey twice.

[@melt2947]

@@mpjkea2000 Filing your teeth down to shreds is highly detrimental. If you listen properly to this Dr, you’ll understand why.

[@retrogamerdave362]

A former patient of mine went to Colombia to have implants placed by a dentist there. One of them was fine, but the other was planted right on top of her mental nerve. I had to take the implant out and sent her to a specialist for nerve repair surgery. I felt terrible for her.

[@drgurssehmi]

This is the kind of thing that makes me share this kind of stuff. I would be surprised if that nerve fully healed. And I truly feel awful for all the disasters that we see in clinic, and the responsible clinics/dentists never take responsibility for it.

[@tolkienista3783]

An extremely informative video. I don't know anyone who's had implants, but the thought of going abroad (especially if it's cheap) for such drastic surgery would scare me more than the surgery itself. I'm guessing that the prices here in the UK are prohibitive, sending more people into the hands of dental surgeries that don't have the experience that you have.

[@drgurssehmi]

The price is really the only reason people travel not only for dental, but all sorts of cosmetic medical procedures. UK dentistry isn't prohibitive, this treatment costs a similar amount as a new kitchen, or a very basic, second hand car. However the marketing from these clinics is essentially saying "avoid getting ripped off at home, have the same thing for 1/4 of the price". It's not the same thing.

[@Chrischi_Z_GermanGUI]

I would argue the experience part, especially if it comes to the expensive procedures. They do them multiple times a week. People come from all over the world to them. They use brand implants and bridges. They have modern clinics, because they make a lot of money with it.

[@tolkienista3783]

@@drgurssehmi I'm sorry I used the word prohibitive, (wrong word) essentially I meant that some people are led by the price attached to the treatment & if it's low, it's good to go. . I had my annual checkup last week with my dentist and when he said "there's a couple of areas we need to talk about" I knew there was something coming. Essentially I needed one crown replacing LR5 and another tooth (heavily filled, after root canal work) crowning LL5. The cost for each crown is £740. I was shocked to be honest, the last crown I had on LR5 was 2009 cost £189, but I'd far rather pay to have it done here in the UK with a dentist I know, respect and admire. My teeth are prepped, temporary crowns on, really pleased with what he's done so far. Job done.

[@drgurssehmi]

​@tolkienista3783 this is a great to hear. The value of the relationship is more important than the cost, for those people who appreciate quality. Unfortunately dental disease is skewed towards the people who can least afford to treat it. Then they get angry when I point out the realities of what I see in clinic every day.

[@simplieshine]

You''re the best! I sent a request for consultation on your office page.

[@drgurssehmi]

Thank you!! I think I got it. Someone will call you on Monday to find out a little more about your situation 🙂

[@simplieshine]

@@drgurssehmi thank you

[@starmap67]

Can you please discucx the maintenance of a dental implant.As in after you get the 'permanent/fixed' implant does it last forever? Can you carry on just seeing your nhs dentisg every 6 months or must you have more check ups .Thank you

[@guidocasero1178]

had a friend who advised me to go to Columbia and get implants, told him I am not comfortable with that so I would just make do with dentures......my gut feeling was right. American healthcare is horrible and forget about dental healthcare, the best dental healthcare insurance in America only pay 50% of the procedures

[@drgurssehmi]

I don't really understand the American healthcare system, but I think the main reason to get things done in your country of residence is the legal protection that you have and the level of healthcare regulation that most people take for granted.

[@angelaschaefer5883]

Yes sadly you are correct. Dentures are what I am getting too. I am happy to be able to smile again.😀

[@HearTruth]

Can you extrapolate on how tooth loss affects cognition and how does implants affect ?

[@12masterr]

This is not always the case. The prices that guusclike you charge are out of reach for regular people. There is nothing wrong with going to other countries to have implants. Of course it will be cases like this, even in your own country.

[@drgurssehmi]

But you have protection in your own country, when you go abroad you take a big risk and when things go wrong you have to accept either living with it, and wasting all your money, and being in a wise situation than before. You are free to do whatever, if you can't afford things in your country, it's not the fault of the whole dental industry.

[@12masterr]

@drgurssehmi no many people can afford 60k teeth! Lol. Must be some fault, after all the difference between you and others is more than half

[@drgurssehmi]

I don't know what currency you are describing, but the most a full mouth costs is about £30k in my clinic (I don't know about others), and that's with zero corners cut. You should research things properly. Lol. 🙄

[@patriciafisher-k1g]

Hi How much are snap in denture top and bottom pls price guide

[@12masterr]

@drgurssehmi with zirconia? Your " without cutting corners" is misleading, as most places will use better materials than you. For example, you say $30k, but never mention it will be the lower quality acrylic dentures, dont you? I did research properly. Here in the States, the job I needed was $55k. I did a full set of implants in argentina, with the latest technology, zirconia, and it was $15k. Same quality or better. No corners cut.

[@LeaKhoury-es4ki]

Thank you for your information that you share it’s informative for us who don’t know and not sure who to trust ,You are amazing I would really be very very comfortable having you as my dentist but it’s too bad I live in Canada 🇨🇦. I wish I could reach you for my services 🤲 but I am learning from you As I am in the process of of implants I could learn as much from you to ask questions to ask about quality and all services

[@drgurssehmi]

Thank you!!! The best advice I can give is to find someone who you can trust and doesn't rush you. Take your time, it's a big decision .

[@pany167]

​@@drgurssehmi hey dr. what brand of implants do you use/recommend ??

[@drgurssehmi]

@pany167 personally I use 2-3 dental implant brands, for different situations. Most implants are fine, it's more about the overall treatment planning. Lower quality implants with good planning will usually give a great, long lasting result. Great implants with poor planning is often a disaster.

[@pany167]

@@drgurssehmi Thanks for replying and spreading Awareness among patients about Dental implant treatment. I appreciate it.

[@aroncarvajal7080]

Hi Dr Gurs there is a Dr in Dallas Texas that I also follow you and him really sound like you care for your patients I've been a dental technician for a long time and I can tell the difference between one that cares and one that doesn't, by the way the Drs name is Dr McFadden if you want to check some of his videos.

[@drgurssehmi]

I'll check it out! Thanks!

[@Chrischi_Z_GermanGUI]

My dad did it on bulgaria in it was perfect. Of course dentists in the west will argue, why it is better to do it in the west, because it is them losing money. If you take turkey for example, they have modern clinics and do this procedure many times a week, because people come from everywhere for it. I am pretty sure they do it more often and because of it have more experience than dentists in the west. Especially for the expensive procedures like all on 4 or all on 6. Not too many people able to afford them for over 30k in the west.

[@drgurssehmi]

I hope it lasts him a lifetime. I don't care about the money, I'm fully booked fixing the messed up cases. It's sickening when you meet people who put their trust in someone, and they get butchered, and after they pay, there is no aftercare. Do you think my patients would pay thousands of pounds to get things fixed if it was all okay??

[@Chrischi_Z_GermanGUI]

@@drgurssehmi Why wouldnt it? They use western brands for implants and bridges and most give lifetime warranties on the implants. And they do this procedure so often, I dont see how they supposely have worse experience.

[@drgurssehmi]

I hope it works, the reality is that it's a medical procedure and failures in dental implants treatment happen +5 years down the line. This is why we are so particular about the aftercare, how easy the prosthetics are to clean (like in the video), the type of gum that surrounds each implant. These are some of the things that patients never consider, but they are critical in how long the results will last. The small print will always say the implant is guaranteed, but if the patient gets gum disease around it, then that's the patients fault. It's fairly rare, but poor prosthetic design (the material doesn't matter), will increase the likelihood of long term problems.

[@marklondonmark5657]

Wait till you have a problem, if you went abroad. I am in a reverse situation, dental work done in UK which was superb but live in Thailand. A couple flights and hotels to pay for and you have spent the few quid you saved.

[@drgurssehmi]

I honestly hope they don't have a problem, it's very difficult to find someone to help locally. I'm glad that you have had a good result! 😁

[@marklondonmark5657]

Dr, top and bottom are 5 years old now Southern implants which are not used in Thailand. I have had one broken arch which I came back to the UK to fix. I really can't stress to your viewers what a horrible feeling it is being round the world from your dentist.

[@drgurssehmi]

@@marklondonmark5657 Southern are a really good quality implant IMO. As you abroad a lot of the time, it may be possible to make an emergency set of teeth made, and sent out to you if needed. It all depends on the way your final teeth were made, these days we have digital models stored and this allows us to either print or mill a new set of temps quite efficiently. Its unlikely that you would have an issue, but its nice that so much can be done remotely.

[@MichaelDouglas-nt7ti]

The dental assistants make you feel like Sh-t! That's why I came in for help A-hole not to be a spectacle. That's why most people are afraid to go to the dentist. What ever happened to professionalism, making you feel comfortable enough to trust them. Going out of the country is the best bet for some with it being so expensive. Paying all that money to be treated like Sh-t! Take care of your teeth!!

[@smarzig]

The pictures flash away too fast

[@drgurssehmi]

Sorry, I'll bear this in mind for future videos. Thank you for the feedback!

[@smarzig]

I know alot of ppl going to Ukraine

[@drgurssehmi]

I think you are right.

[@rjvtechnologies]

the principle and basis of the whole narrative(rant) is fundamentally flawed and wrong, there is no direct or indirect correlation between final price charged by dental practices and the end result of of said service. one can have cheaper prices and better service than those charging more the whole speech is to allude that because he charges more that his service is better than those charging less and/or from foreign dental practices as if himself and the overall uk dental practices were the pinnacle of what dentists can be. he is using a very small percentage of cases and describes as being the norm or model across the whole spectrum which is completely false, a gross misrepresentation of what is the dental practice reality in countries outside of the uk, the uk in comparison to any country member of the European union, the uk has lower dental standards and higher prices than the whole euro zone what is sad is sehemi here which is above average in terms of his knowledge and disposition, resorting to this level of tactics, if he were dumb i would say that he is misleading inadeptly and its just trying advertising his dental practice to the best of his abilities without really knowing the implications and consequences of what is saying, it because and only because he is not naïf nor ignorant, nothing in this video was produced lightly, i would not be surprised if the speech is rehearsed or that he is using English coach or a marketing team teaching him all the subconscious up sales (fear of loss, sheep factor, etc.) for last but not the least, the statement: " Every month, 5-10 people call us and tell us that they had their treatment done abroad, and are we able to fix the bodge jobs that they have been left with" is a statement not confirmed, verified and only postulate by himself and no one else, the statement is not substantiated at all, not surprised if the numbers were being exaggerated for the purpose of the click bait please be careful and read always the inner words of any speech

[@drgurssehmi]

And yet you have no evidence to substantiate your claims in your essay. At least I have actual case photos, and these are just from this month. 🙄 My point is about the false economy of going abroad where patients have no protection and a disaster in terms of quality of care. If someone comes to me to have this fixed, yes they have to pay for it - obviously! But very few people in the UK will even help people in that situation. I look forward to you publicly having the guts to show the evidence you have for the claims you are making.

[@tolkienista3783]

@@drgurssehmi hear hear. A very bizarre reply on your video. You are writing as an experienced dental professional, giving very sound advice to those seeking drastic surgery abroad. If I were looking for implants I'd be following your advice to the nth degree.

[@lovebitcoin813]

@@drgurssehmi You are a rubbish dentist and just a little thief

[@rjvtechnologies]

@@drgurssehmi The claim that dental tourism universally results in a "nightmare" is not supported by any available data on patient satisfaction and success rates except yours! A study published in the "Journal of Travel Medicine" by Jaapar et al. (2017) found that 90% of dental tourists reported being satisfied or very satisfied with their treatment. Another study in the "Tourism Management" journal by Lubowiecki-Vikuk and Dryglas (2019) reported an overall satisfaction rate of 80% among dental tourists in Poland. These high satisfaction rates show beyond any reasonable doubt that while negative experiences do occur, they are not the norm at all! The study in the "British Dental Journal" by Barrowman et al. (2010) found complication rates for dental implants abroad to be around 8%, comparable to rates in the uk References [1] Jaapar, M., et al. (2017). Dental tourism: Examining tourist profiles, motivation and satisfaction. Tourism Management, 61, 538-552. [2] Lubowiecki-Vikuk, A., & Dryglas, D. (2019). Medical tourism services and medical tourism destinations in Central and Eastern Europe - the opinion of Britons and Germans. Economic Research-Ekonomska Istraživanja, 32(1), 1256-1274. [3] Medical Tourism Association. (2021). Medical Tourism Index. [4] Patients Beyond Borders. (2022). Dental Tourism Statistics. [5] Joint Commission International. (2023). JCI-Accredited Organizations. [6] International Organization for Standardization. (2015). ISO 9001:2015 Quality management systems - Requirements. [7] Patients Beyond Borders. (2020). Medical Tourism Statistics & Facts. [8] Allied Market Research. (2019). Dental Tourism Market by Treatment Type and Consumer: Global Opportunity Analysis and Industry Forecast, 2018-2025. [9] Barrowman, R. A., Grubor, D., & Chandu, A. (2010). Dental implant tourism. Australian Dental Journal, 55(4), 441-445. [10] Conti, A., et al. (2018). Complications and failures of dental implants: A systematic review. International Journal of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery, 47(12), 1569-1578. [11] Kovacs, E., et al. (2016). Dental tourists in Europe: A comparative analysis of German and Hungarian patients seeking dental care abroad. European Journal of Oral Implantology, 9(Suppl 1), 137-145. [12] Kovacs, E., & Szocska, G. (2017). 'Vacation for your teeth' - Dental tourists in Hungary from the perspective of Hungarian dentists. British Dental Journal, 223(7), 527-532. [13] Jaapar, M., et al. (2017). Dental tourism: Examining tourist profiles, motivation and satisfaction. Tourism Management Perspectives, 21, 1-9. PS: is not by having academic acolytes certificates or titles that one is more or less knowledgeable than another person but you only have a Bachelor of Dental Surgery (BDS) which is not even the pinnacle of academic certifications and its just the bare legal minimum, not saying that after 15 years you still a fresh ignorant college graduate but you cannot portray information with a level of certainty which does not exist nor you have. you don't need to be here up selling dental services that 99.99% of British people cannot afford by trashing and misrepresenting all other dental professionals and practices which many could make the argument that you are knowingly misleading people to which is fraud. i suggest you instead contact nhs England and "force" them to refer to your practice all the cases where the hospital is unable to provide dental treatment in utile time, as you know delayed dental treatments bring further dental complications which can put patients physical and mental wellbeing at risk and therefore nhs England is legally obliged to address these cases, its important to note that i am referring to victim cases (bodily harm, assault, etc) where victims are entitle to free nhs treatments outside of what nhs traditionally and by default gives to citizens, gross example: vaginal rejuvenation is not a funded nhs treatment except in cases of rape, plastic surgy is not funded by nhs except for victims of acid attack, same for when people get their teeth knocked out, you only need to know who are the latest victims(not hard) contact them and them pressure for now treatment which in 99.99% nhs England cannot do where your clinic will do the treatment and then bill nhs England for the dental treatment nhs England is unable to provide in utile time and your dental clinic, this would be a more "legit" way of doing things which really put the patients need first i still reiterate far dentists go you are above average(not by encyclopaedic information or in action but due to your anthropologic qualification {sigma} which gives you a better stance in making dental treatment and assessments than the majority of other dentists which anthropologically speaking are weaker {beta} ) but you still just a men. i feel disappointed when i see men like you do from their knowledge a trade of their own fortune moreover when people work with other people ignorance and beguile them. i hope this satisfies substantiation and that this issue is of scientific and professional nature and not personal

[@drgurssehmi]

Haha you have quoted Micky mouse journals with no long term follow up. Let's see how happy patients are after 5+ years, which is when implant problems typically arise. Just because a patient is happy that this mouth looks better does not mean that the quality of treatment is good. I didn't read most of your comment, it was very rambly, like you went to chat gpt!