All On 4 VS. 3 On 6 - Dentist Reacts

[@SteelyPaw]

I have dentures, got them at 70 years old. As much as I hate the dentures, I don't want the maintenance of implants and trips to the dentist without dental insurance . With dentures, you can just soak the dentures and brush the gums. Down side, you lose some food taste , and the bottom plate tends to slide around. Then there's the expense of implants, like she said, the cost of a new car that's always in the garage getting repaired. If I were younger, I would try to go with implants. But for now, it's dentures for me and the occasional trips to the dentist to get my perm dentures realigned. A side note when home I eat soups and soft foods without having my dentures in. I am happy for the pretty young lady, braving her story and getting implants.

[@chiptreks]

I had a very successful, full-arch FP-1 procedure performed in Texas 3 months ago. I'm currently in my temporary prostheses and will receive my permanent, zirconia implant bridges next month. I was originally scheduled to have All-on-4 performed in my home state but became dissatisfied with the proposed procedure when I was informed about the amount of healthy gum & bone that was going to be removed in order to make room for the All-on-4 abutments and prostheses. Personally, I couldn't be happier with my decision.

[@kpopbillionaire]

Kindly explain why need to remove bones? Some patients get bone grafting but why remove in your case? Or you mean remove bone from other area and put in the area to do implant?

[@chiptreks]

@@kpopbillionaire The All-on-4 procedure requires a certain amount of your jawbone (upper and lower) to be removed in order for the prostheses to fit. This results in the need for the fake gums you see on the All-on-4 dentures. All-on-4 dentists refer to this as "smoothing", but in reality, it is removal of approximately 1/2 inch of bone and gum tissue from your upper and lower jaw. The FP-1 procedure I chose preserved all my bone and gum tissue which resulted in a much more natural result and prostheses with no fake gums.

[@johnverlooy6757]

@@kpopbillionaire No they cut away a large portion of your gums and bone to have a clean slate to work with because it is much easier to work with and they need a large opening to insert the massive pieces of zirconia

[@noradaly1]

Could you share where you went in Texas?

[@chiptreks]

Out of respect to Dr. Choi, I'd prefer not to share where I went in Texas here in the comments. If you have an email address, please leave it in the comments and I'll email the information to you.

[@dorothywalters9059]

Thank you for the information on all on 4 and 3 on 6. Most appreciated ❤️🌹

[@northtexasdentalsurgery]

Thank you so much!

[@kennethkempjr3531]

Ford Chevrolet Dodge Honda Toyota. They all have the same function do your research and get what is the best fit for you I personally after more than 2 years of research am going with the 3 on 6 with Dr Roberts office in Utah because it was the best fit for me.

[@PeterGuzzardo]

I went to Randi Roberts in Utah, he is 1st rate, and the guy to do the procedure. They do a detailed scan, create guides, the price ( I was quoted $17,999 ) included everything including bone graphs, extractions, everything except for anesthesia. That was per arch

[@jaydenp4975]

Are you going to get the procedure done there?

[@PeterGuzzardo]

@@jaydenp4975 yes, my surgery is tomorrow 0ct 16. I’m in Utah right now. Had the pre op scans etc this morning. Im having just the bottom arch done.

[@PeterGuzzardo]

@@jaydenp4975 yes. I had it done just a few days ago. Oct 16 to be exact. Today is the 19th. I have zero pain and the experience was as good as anything like this can get. Just Do It.

[@danibakesmauiii]

@@jaydenp4975​​⁠​⁠I had my consultation, start up today with Dr. Randy Robert’s. I’m getting the surgery next Monday. I’ve been following this 3 on 6 invention since the very beginning. There is NOTHING else like it. And aside from having your natural teeth, i couldn’t imagine anyone else coming up with anything better in the future. I flew in to see Dr. Robert’s because he was only 1.5 hours away and you can’t get better than going to the creator of the procedure. It is quite costly…. But, how much is your life worth to you? Your health, happiness, quality of life? Every other option will in the long run, end up costing you so much more money, they are much more invasive or will over time be detrimental to the health of your mouth and bone. If you are thinking about it, do it. Get a consultation at least. Consultations are free and they offer them through zoom, you would just need to provide a panoramic photo of your mouth.

[@debrajohnson9728]

I had my 3 on 6 done 2 years ago witj dr Roberts in utah sublime. Im very happy

[@McIntosh1006]

Can you discuss difference between Zirconia vs. Porcelain teeth on implants? I was told with Porcelain that you have to wear a mouth guard while sleeping? No mouth guard required with Zirconia?

[@jaydenp4975]

Quote from a local dentist to do the 3 on 6 is 55k. I know it’s expensive but look at what it entails. The experience the dentist surgeon has and the complexity of the whole process cannot be cheap. It’s a surgery and those teeth and life changing. Not only for looks but so people can eat and enjoy the foods they want and be healthier. I’m saving for my procedure now and cannot wait. I’m so excited.

[@danibakesmauiii]

Just had my consultation/start up with Dr. Robert’s today. Both arches 45k. They also do financing.. but they require 5k an arch upfront.. so I did have to come up with that.. and then was approved for a 30k loan, so had to pay the remaining 5k as well... so it was 15k upfront and my payment will be 600$ a month.

[@AbXy-rg2th]

All on 4 is a quicker and least technical way for dentists to make money. It requires less skill with a faster turn over. Preserving bone is most essential and yet dentists are happy to take out your bone. Why dont they perform bone grafts and gum augmentation if they really cared about their patients.

[@sue-annthandy5387]

Hell yes so articulate, empathic, I had bone grafts, top,6X6 & bottom 4X4 & gum thingy & it took 2 /5 hours off Surgery a connouiser unmatched a lucky, lucky Penshioner I’m blessed Spirtual healers praying for me,OSTEPATH TODAY I SWIM,sauna, 2/4/ times weekly gong bath also, back massage £18 soho, future good health undistubed sleep 🤔😇🙏🙏🆒🆗✅🔚

[@marciasloan534]

@@sue-annthandy5387WHERE ??

[@McIntosh1006]

One place I went for consultation in FL, New Teeth Now, say you leave day of surgery with a full set of Zirconia (not temp plastic) implants, so you can eat solid foods within a couple of days, and they look more natural. Then in six/eight months when gums settle down you go back for permanent set of implants. They say, with Zirconia implants, you do not have to wear a mouth guard while sleeping, like required with Porcelain. They offered both All-On-Four or solid bridge implants with no fake gums (more expensive), like what you are calling 3-on-6…. except one solid piece implant. Choice seems to matter how thick your gums are and how much natural gum is between teeth?

[@dhermosillo09]

This solidified that I wanted 3 on 6 but professional opinion on how I need to approach my smile rebuild is paramount 😅

[@passion4923]

You’re obviously favouring All on 4 procedure and I’ve seen it in few of your videos! I’m currently going thru All on 6 procedures-yes lot more time consuming but I wouldn’t have it any other way! I call All on 4 butchering or glorified dentures for a high price !

[@normanmanio7050]

I had my implant and zirconia crown done 8 moths ago and I can say I've gone to a mix of both proceedure. I have 4 implants and a full arch zirconia bridge with no fake gums. in my case it looks more natural and i dont like pinks on my teeth, i also have low lip smile so no gums are showing. I think it's really depend on your gum situation, your implant doctor should very much trained to know what will suit best for you. you should also research and have knowledge on how each proceeddure works so you won't have to regret the outcome. I am very happy with the result and transformation of my new set of teeth. And implant with zirconia is your best bet and a long term investment to summarize all we spent over years of repairs, restoration and frustration.

[@johnverlooy6757]

I spoke with people that had all on 4 and others that had 3 on 6 , I found happy people with both procedures for me personally I decided on the 3on 6 because I was able to keep my own bone and gums instead of it being cut down , also the weight of the zirconia on a all on 4 or 3 on 6 is so much heavier the all on 4 was less expensive then the 3 on 6 so there are pros and cons to both it is a very personal decision sometimes I had the feeling that some dentist were pushing the all on 4 more and I just assume because it is a less complicated surgery just my opinion

[@transequitur]

I think your choice and observations are spot on. I had consults with 4 clinicians, the first two pushed for All-on-4, which made me suspicious BUT inspired me to become more educated and as a result, I'm happy with my choice of both provider and procedure. If someone is genuinely happy with their All-on-4, who am I to argue.

[@danibakesmauiii]

The all on 4 is MUCH MORE invasive than the 3 on 6. They are literally cutting out most of your jaw so that the large acrylic dentures can fit in your mouth.

[@williammoree]

They both are very nice. I went with all on 4 with peek and crowns.I'm very happy with them

[@charlesfuchs]

3 and 6 all the way

[@pattyfluegel7816]

He does DOES all on four. What he is saying is that if a patient comes in and all on four is not their best option he offers them a more complex dental plan involving things like crowns, veneers, and bridges.

[@PeterGuzzardo]

I only need a bottom arch. Where no gum shows anyway. So is 3 on 6 better for me?

[@DentalInstituteofIstanbul]

Depends on your jaw bone. If you have a strong jawbone, especially on the back, 3-on-6 may be the better solution. Feel free to contact us for free consultation.

[@danibakesmauiii]

3 on 6 is the best option for anyone. But not everyone is able to have it if they’ve experienced extensive bone loss.

[@RawVeganFruitarian]

DR gurs DOES do all-on-4, but dome patients want that when criwns and bridges would be recommended.

[@Arielb83]

Do you have to wait 4 months before you’re able to get the permanent set (zirconia)? I heard it can be 2.5 months 🤷🏾‍♀️ what are your thoughts? I have upper only.

[@northtexasdentalsurgery]

definitely too soon at 2.5 months

[@bensonandaga]

Hi . I had all on 4 with this dentist on a video - and I am at the end of 6 months wait .

[@Naomikimura2024]

3 on 6 looks more realistic

[@stevesturkeyteethjourney]

Is it easier to clean all on 4 with a water flosser rather than 3 on 6 as I’m guessing it would be a tighter fit? Ps I have all on 5 I find cleaning easy 👍🏻

[@stevewang]

can you get a more functional all on 4 without the superfluous fake gums? it would just be easier to clean. imo jaws teeth but i could care less about other people see.

[@pattyfluegel7816]

Why cant they make 3 on 6 which also have fake gums and just engineer them to meet together properly? Would the line always show on the gum and not be able to be disguised?

[@Change6030]

Where in New York City is affordable can you please let me know thank you 👍

[@mariohall2631]

Affordable and good. If you find someone, please let me know. I'm in Long Island

[@Cyberbizbuddy]

I would think that all on 6 would be the best solution for strength and durability. I know it costs more, but when you chew a steak, it probably feels more natural.

[@transequitur]

Totally agree. I chose to save some money by having the work done in Guadalajara BUT I also chose the most experienced and expensive provider. My procedure won't be completed until around Christmas but so far I'm very happy with my choice.

[@travislong2810]

I’m happy with my FP-1 aka 3 on 6

[@MiriamVelasquez-eh6qs]

Very expensive would be nice if dentist just help people have a quality of life by not charging so much

[@DentalInstituteofIstanbul]

I can help you with that

[@jaydenp4975]

It’s expensive but they have to charge appropriately. Most people have no issue buying and financing new vehicles that depreciate and this investment will be for ones life health and happiness. I love cars but my mouth is more important.

[@danibakesmauiii]

@@jaydenp49751 billion % yes!

[@mitchellwong1247]

With the exception of you (which I have already checked out), the biggest problem is the outlandish, unjustified costs in the USA. Then there are the unethical dentists who aren't even experienced enough to justify the costs they want you to incur. If I was going to pay the top astronomical costs that unqualified dentists want to charge.... why wouldn't I go to a orthodontist who specializes in implants (like you doctor)? Instead, I have to go to a DDS that went to a seminar and now performs implants and even Botox. The dental industry greed is fully living up to its reputation. I have seen an interview where you are basically left speechless trying to defend the unqualified others.

[@Change6030]

Where is it cheaper and done right

[@transequitur]

Spot on, my friend....however there are a FEW clinicians (like Dr. Choi) in the U.S. that put patient outcome before their own incomes. After a lot of research and my own finances, I chose to have my full upper arch restoration done in Ajijic, Jalisco, Mexico. I'm paying $18k vs. $32k. I could of had the work done for considerably less but I wanted the most experienced clinician. Suggested viewing: David McFadden (also in Dallas) and Robert Stanley (Stanley Inst. for Comprehensive Dentistry)

[@allinlinden]

Los Algodones,Mexico! It's known as Molar City. It's next to Yuma,AZ. There's 600 dentists within 5 square blocks. ​All on 4 packages are around $11k-$22k for top and bottom arches. Depending on the material you choose. I got a quote here in Oregon for All on 4 and they wanted $60k for top and bottom! I'm going to Molar City in January!@@Change6030

[@SKYWALKERDFS]

I just paid $60,000 just for an upper all on four. Very exspensive

[@cica8427]

I paid around 13500 euros for full mouth restauration in Moldova.

[@BG1435q]

60k for just uppers. WTF. in NYC its 25-30k per arch

[@SKYWALKERDFS]

@BG1435q They get you with the extra charges. Bone graphs. An Anesthesiologist ect

[@jefrobodiiine]

Geez, i just paid $17k all on 6 in Chicago last week upper arch. NY is crazy0​@BG1435q

[@jefrobodiiine]

I had no anesthesiologist, they put some kind of sedative in my mouth. I felt no pain, just a little loopy afterward.

[@dorothywalters9059]

How many teeth are on each bridge of an all on 4 or 3 on 6?

[@transequitur]

A typical 3 on 6 provides 3 bridges consisting of 4 "units" each for a total of 12 teeth. All-on-4 also provides for a total of 12 teeth, which as Dr. Choi mentioned has a potential advantage of cross bridge stabilization. For me the main driver was preservation of bone and soft tissue.

[@ediecampbell594]

Upper lower all on 4s $21.000 got to look around

[@northtexasdentalsurgery]

yeah i'd say that's an easy price to get for a lower

[@teeray9893]

Can you share the information of where you found a place for that price?

[@user-rw718]

I had 6 full size upper implants done and 4 lower implants with all on six and all on four fixed bridges and paid 9000$ in Colombia. It was the same exact procedure I was quoted 85k in the USA. Be smart save your money dental tourism is a great thing.

[@jayqueen4587]

Wow thats great price .can tou tell ne where in columbia you got your procedure done.I was quote 58000. Upper and lower at clear choice down town brooklyn.

[@sk135ker]

FP1- most people probably are not good candidates because of the amount of gum tissue they show when smiling

[@belindayoung2079]

No one wants fake gums

[@pattyfluegel7816]

He is not that deep in the weeds, he is actually being very clear. Your speech and the way you try to deliver information in your videos is actually much less clear.