Fixing An Analog Church Mix | Mixdown Meltdown Ep 8

[@aguyandhiscomputer]

12:37 "Cut out what you don't need and let the rest breathe" Good quote for equipment and life.

[@DerekFrampton]

RIGHT? Spoken like a true sound "ENGINEER" NOT a sound guy :) Cheers!

[@danceb4nine]

Well with Churcfront it’s more about upgrading the current systems churches use. When here is about helping the churches clean up their mix with what they have. I’m sure if they asked that he would give them options to upgrade though

[@Skkyyyyyyyyyyy]

90% of people struggling with their mixes would benefit from this advice. If you ONLY cut things you didn’t need, your mix would sound amazing already.

[@martmakesmusic]

it's damn impressive how good those drums sound with just two 58s

[@tsoflakes8727]

Sm58s are honestly underrated

[@musicmankeyz]

@@tsoflakes8727 in the pro sound world, they are definitely not underrated. Everyone who knows sound knows sm58s..

[@epicdude999]

i like how you take what they have and use that instead of being like churchfront who are like "nah you need a new 48 channel digital mixer, new PA and maybe that'll make it sound ok"

[@chrishammillaudio]

Two completely different approaches.

[@musicmankeyz]

​@@chrishammillaudioPerfect Response...

[@aleksandergrzybowski8899]

Haha this is spot on! But I think that both approaches have their own merits.

[@DOC2089]

If the church is looking to upgrade anyway, why not buy new. At least you have been counseled on the right things to buy. I love watching him tho. Analog or Digital he knows how to make bad sound become good sound.

[@jeffsancricca7041]

Also,how much commission is being made on equipment sale. I like the “work with what you are already blessed with” approach.

[@Zen-cs7zu]

LETS GO I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR AN ANALOG ONE CUZ MY CHURCH USES A BEHRINGER ANALOG MIXER

[@cc11studio]

I can NOT get enough of Chris Hammill's videos. Focused on an underserved community and just darn solid work.

[@5lickwi11]

Can't wait for this to turn into a more serious thing and companies start to sponsor upgrades for some of these places. You get a before with theirs vs after with upgrades, you could even tune both etc. Awesome work though as always

[@chrishammillaudio]

There’s already a channel that does exactly that. It’s called Churchfront. Love those guys but I’m not trying to do what they do. I’m happy helping church’s with the gear they already have. However, if some microphone manufacturers want to sponsor me (looking at you Behringer) and donate room mics to give to these church’s, that would be amazing.

[@abcdxyz2]

Been searching this content for ages. Someone who's actually not afraid to tell how and why he's doing things a certain way. I have been mixing FOH for nearly a decade and always learn new stuff just by watching videos like this. Well done sir!

[@richardaguirre3719]

I really enjoy the format of these save my mix videos. There's a story behind the sound and after all that is why we mix.

[@tsoflakes8727]

That sm58 was doing the lord’s work man

[@catsdgs]

How did you make that a link?

[@lnnthl]

Finally an analog video! We use the smaller version of this board (the MGP24X) at my Catholic church here in the Philippines.

[@BryceAndEveeNZ]

ahh so bassically the 24channel version of this consope

[@lnnthl]

@ Yes. 24 is just what we need for our church mix which is primarily vocal and spoken-word. 5 choir mics, 1 mic each for the altar, pulpit, and commentator, an organ (plugged direct) and a computer. In addition we have a stereo send coming to a Focusrite 2i2 which serves the stream.

[@chrishammillaudio]

👍

[@OninMusic]

uy pilipins!!!

[@johnjosephregoso14]

​@@lnnthlNice filipino here 🥰♥️🙏

[@PrestonSDAChurch]

We have the same exact model mixer.! Altough it's a nice mixer overall, it lacks all the bells and wistles of its digital counterparts. Thanks for this video! Keep up the good work!

[@MisterLepo]

I've mixed so much on this console and did my first choir tour. Brings up so many memories watching you work on it... oh dear God the blood and tears cried over this board.

[@candrink]

12:04 definitely dont want the bhum bhum bhum, just the BOUM BOUM BOUM. love it

[@austress3817]

Am the one who's asking for analog meltdown, mixdown. Am so excited , thks so much broo❤❤🎉🎉😂😊😊

[@BryceAndEveeNZ]

good lordy ... I remember using a 32 channel Allen & Heath manual console to mix church ... it was a pain. churches need to be using a digital console especially due to the scene save / reset ability

[@paulbradshaw431]

Great video Chris. So many people would have gone in and their first comment would have been, wow you aren't giving me much to work with here but you were encouraging and realized that a lot of improvements could be made with the equipment on hand. Heck when I worked on Cher's Aussie tour in 1981 the board was an analog beast custom built by JANDS for the purpose and her guy made it sound like a million dollars.

[@ryan0io]

Not a sound engineer, but I did volunteer at a local church a while ago that had a Yamaha GF24/12 analog board. This one looks pretty similar at least on the channel controls. Was a fun experience, and the only sound board I've run. The digital boards looks very cool nowadays.

[@carnpitts]

You do fantastic work. Love this series.

[@JayJayGrady4U]

I love that you show the before and after

[@ojc1968]

awesome lesson. we all have these issues on Sunday Mornings. hang in there. thanks.

[@NoName-ye9jw]

Never been this early, LOVE this series!

[@gabimultimedia]

I love Yamaha MGP32X! Nice work! 13:25 you can use MATRIX output for live-streaming because all sound from ST can go directly to live: same sound for live as in church. God Bless His Church!

[@chrishammillaudio]

Not if you want an independent stream mix where you can adjust any individual level.

[@stevef2114]

Hurrah... about time bro... seeing some real low tech analogue setup.... this is what I have to deal with at my church... you did a great job. Im dreaming of getting a digital desk. Im looking at a Yamaha DM3.. was going for a X32.. but its old now.. still good though. Budget is the issue :)

[@filetransferprotocoldoctor]

Cool, love to see videos about tough jobs like this! Working with what you have instead of stellar equipment is also an experience sometimes :D

[@gregslack8216]

Congrats on 40,000 subscribers! 😀

[@chrishammillaudio]

Thanks!

[@robfriedrich2822]

2:25 One of the last bigger analog consoles. Meanwhile you only got smaller ones for the small band on a budget.

[@robfriedrich2822]

By the way, this "32 channel" console, what in fact has 24 channels only plus 4 stereo channels with unbalanced input and limited equalization, isn't much cheaper than a Behringer X32, where you can do test recordings and use all 32 channels.

[@chrishammillaudio]

Go with the x32 every time.

[@Crash10101010]

I love this series so much!

[@JoshuaSimonKuruvillaProduction]

man i luv uuuu thanks for doing analog mix am so done with digital mixing

[@klebsonflanatico]

Great videos bro! A big hug from Brazil!

[@AJtheRatty]

I gotta shadow someone like you one of these days, so I can ask tons of questions about what you see in the settings and graphic spectrum vs what your ears hear when you're doing levels and eq. Amazing video as always dude!

[@DerekFrampton]

These things are SERIOUSLY expensive... $1,900 ... for what you can get in a Digital console for that.. WTF? lol GREAT JOB as always!

[@chrishammillaudio]

X32s are dirt cheap now.

[@DerekFrampton]

@@chrishammillaudio Sweetwater's havin' that Behringer blowout which is insane.

[@luclearr]

I love sm58s they are like the all purpose mic 😂

[@agork]

Try it on floor Toms. Works great there too

[@PedroAlmeida_Guitar]

Mannn I need you at my church in Long Island!!!!! That’s insane

[@dantharx]

Oooo analog! Noice!

[@jzmsounds3170]

Love this series! Especially love how you flip back and forth between the FOH mix and the stream mix. I can always tell the difference but I'm curious to how that is accomplished for the sake of showing us in the videos, it is done LIVE or edited in POST? Hope that makes sense. Thanks

[@chrishammillaudio]

The switching between board and camera audio is in post.

[@kerovinp]

More analog mixer content please🙏 Thank you🙏👍

[@chrishammillaudio]

If church’s have them I’ll use them

[@TomatoProductionstm]

sounds like the cheap sound card has a mic level input as well. youch. great improvement to the sound!

[@jusjos1970]

Really saved their stream

[@dallasslim1838]

Clean!

[@carter773312]

Man I wish you were in Chicago!!! We need you bad.

[@chrishammillaudio]

Willing to travel.

[@1MARKUS79]

I did sound last month on a 1992 Phonic 16 analog...no effects.... it was BASIC

[@BryceAndEveeNZ]

thats one way of saying it mate

[@ckjjclan]

Dang. Great job.

[@Eddy-l3t]

Proper video on the analog board. We have the exact one in our church and I wanted to ask, how did the graph on the board screen look like. I feel like that is the only part we haven't figured out to make our livestream mix sound better. Thank you

[@chrishammillaudio]

I used the frequency analyzer in logic for accurate monitoring. The meters on the board and what was the actual loudness on the stream were different.

[@Eddy-l3t]

@@chrishammillaudio thank you for this tip. I currently don't have logic, but I will look for a frequency analyzer

[@chrishammillaudio]

Logic is a one time purchase of 200 bucks and so much better for value than pro tools.

[@Eddy-l3t]

@@chrishammillaudio thank you for this advice

[@jacobrostron1864]

Love this!

[@pjraaluchi5248]

Could you please enable download on this video for offline playback? I don't always have good Internet in my region to watch on the go. Thanks

[@chrishammillaudio]

All of my videos are downloadable.

[@pjraaluchi5248]

This one requires KZbin premium for some reason.

[@chrishammillaudio]

So get KZbin premium

[@KAPOW6000]

another banger video!

[@MichaelSosmena]

Amazing bro

[@micahbrill]

Nice job man

[@mikenjiru5149]

THANKS ALOT for this.

[@santana261]

Another great job..🎉❤

[@kertinaproduction5486]

Nice. Thank you for the video. What kind of room mic do you recommend?

[@chrishammillaudio]

Small diaphragm condenser. Behringer c2 is perfect

[@kertinaproduction5486]

@ ok thanks.

[@morbidmanmusic]

check the ohm on his phones for volume increase. Get some good Iso drum phones rather than cancellation phones. Photo the board settings. get that snare out of everything.

[@chrishammillaudio]

Can’t really get the snare out of every other mic but you’re welcome to email them the other suggestions.

[@shxckz400]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[@salonkc4771]

Hello I am newbie in sound technology your video really help me.Can we connect subwoofer with mono output in this mixer?

[@chrishammillaudio]

It needs to be an active subwoofer. The board can't power passive speakers.

[@santana261]

I already saw that we're two racks sided the console. What gear was there? Processors, equalizer?

[@chrishammillaudio]

Nothing that contributes to the sound of the mix.

[@santana261]

@@chrishammillaudio Great.. thanks for the vídeo and all knowledge with.

[@aguyandhiscomputer]

Need to find a way to kick out more of these :)

[@chrishammillaudio]

If KZbin wouldn’t copyright tag every video I upload and I didn’t have to work a day job, I’d gladly upload more.

[@aguyandhiscomputer]

@@chrishammillaudio copyright from the music the bands play?

[@chrishammillaudio]

Yes

[@AidanMmusic96]

@@chrishammillaudio I thought since you left the real-estate photography job you went fully freelance? Or are you counting Dingbatz as "day job"?

[@chrishammillaudio]

I am a full time freelancer. Real Estate photography is my main source of income.

[@DerekFrampton]

You're right. maybe even an affordable mono ribbon mic for the stream somewhere for that ambience in the stream. GREAT otherwise!

[@chrishammillaudio]

Small diaphragm condensers work best for rooms imo but really any mic you can eq will do the job.

[@DerekFrampton]

@@chrishammillaudio I can't argue with that opinion as it's based also in fact IMO. :) Could even do a pair of C2's or something where the cost of the XLR runs would probably cost more than the mics themselves. (maybe)

[@gabopenav]

What’s the song they are rehearsing 5:20

[@chrishammillaudio]

🤷‍♂️

[@Jfreeman1291]

How excellent is thy name. There are many different renditions of this song out, even some with similar names.

[@WutrUduin]

What sound reduction headphones are you using. If you didn't have a pair today, would you buy different model?

[@chrishammillaudio]

EX29 and they’re great.

[@WutrUduin]

@@chrishammillaudio Thanks

[@themadmallard]

after your intro, all i could think was (but can you fix their bitrate?) Thx for this video on analog production. I still say there's stuff to learn here that carries over everywhere.

[@chrishammillaudio]

Their OBS settings weren’t the issue.

[@themadmallard]

@@chrishammillaudio was it a bandwidth issue of the connection? It did sound compressed.... or my hearing is finally going, one or the other.

[@chrishammillaudio]

The before mix was due to pushing the limits of obs and not having good gain structure.

[@aldrinsakide6571]

Haloo From Indonesia 😊

[@johanneshalvorsen275]

I'll take this church choir with this mixer over Kevin The Devine Worship Pastor and his 8 Karens on a $20K A&H/DiGiCo/Whatever ANY sunday! ❤

[@aDifferentJT]

Why do these desks have no compressors on the first 8 channels?

[@chrishammillaudio]

I don’t make them so I don’t know.

[@MatheusRodrigues-vx4mt]

Hi Chris, I'm from Brazil, I like your channel, but I don't understand English, would you be able to provide the subtitles that KZbin itself offers?

[@chrishammillaudio]

My videos are automatically subtitled.

[@Hertz-s5q]

Why is the FOH(front of house) mix never as good as the in ear mix? Genuine question cause I have that issue in my church

[@chrishammillaudio]

The room.

[@FI-TECH-250]

I use that exact board at my school, and theres one thing i need to say: the geq on that inbuilt mp3 player on the mixer player is really shitty. Everything else is good and nice. Only thing is, that most of the guys in the audio team dont know how to use the board. Sometimes we also use a midas m32. But i prefer analog for the things we are doing :)

[@chrishammillaudio]

What mp3 player? There’s no mp3 player anywhere on that stage or the desk.

[@jaguarsparkle8788]

@@chrishammillaudio i think he might be talking about the cheap usb soundcard they use?

[@FI-TECH-250]

@@chrishammillaudio i was talking about the onboard sound player, fx cpu and geq un the mixer.

[@Eddy-l3t]

Please share tips on how to use the board better. Our mix in church sounds funny

[@ДмитрийДмитриевич-с5н]

Hi from Siberia))

[@julianwang9015]

Do you ever do fallow up after you go to a church?

[@chrishammillaudio]

I have a live stream checking out the first 5 church’s I visited.

[@moneystax0509]

Would you be willing to come to Virginia? We need your help! Very serious inquiry.

[@chrishammillaudio]

Yes. Email me.

[@BAdams138]

Would a photo of the settings work, or a hand sketch?

[@chrishammillaudio]

It could work

[@zp_bomond]

Hi! What happened to the car in the end, did you scratch it?:)

[@chrishammillaudio]

I didn’t scratch it. No asshole driver scratched it either.

[@ThisisPrinceJ]

Whats the output of the stream mix from the mixer ? Aux ? or USB ?

[@chrishammillaudio]

I literally say it in the video.

[@jacktinga3581]

What software do you use to monitor the live feed?

[@chrishammillaudio]

Logic.

[@jacktinga3581]

@ right okay thanks! And do you recommend any other free options?

[@chrishammillaudio]

Logic is not free. One time purchase of $200. Audacity is free but crappy.

[@theMicky_j]

All my life I had no idea AFL meant After Fader listen 😅

[@founboy78]

The Yamaha mgp32x was the only analog board I've done major work on.

[@Eddy-l3t]

Kindly share tips to use the board

[@founboy78]

@Eddy-l3t Anything that needs compression like vocals and guitars save it for the channels that have compressor knobs.

[@Eddy-l3t]

@@founboy78 thank you. Anything else I should know about the board?

[@founboy78]

@@Eddy-l3t It may had been a user error but, the reverb can be very sensitive. Be careful with that.

[@Eddy-l3t]

@@founboy78 thank you so much for your wisdom

[@josephjoseph-bd5wb]

what kind is the mixer brand

[@chrishammillaudio]

I say it in the video…

[@theCmunee]

If im buying the cheapest thing i can, what room mic would you reccommend?

[@chrishammillaudio]

The cheapest microphones you can find.

[@theCmunee]

@chrishammillaudio I dig it. I love it when someone doesn't tell me I have to buy something I have absolutely no budget for.

[@chrishammillaudio]

@@theCmunee If your objective is to buy simply the cheapest, then buy the cheapest you can find. The quality probably wont be good but you’ll accomplish your goal of buying cheap.

[@robfriedrich2822]

Try the most inexpensive Behringer condenser microphones. A matched stereo pair, price below a single SM 58, including stand adapter to attach two microphones on one stand.

[@KAMOYA17]

Your car is so popular here in South Africa, especially amongst womanisers 😄😜.

[@chrishammillaudio]

Only in my dreams do I pull women like Bond 😂

[@bunzac1]

Have you ever worked on a peavey aureus 28?

[@chrishammillaudio]

No

[@ACarchives]

32X...LOL. It would be called that 😂

[@kucingindoasli3830]

🐈🐈

[@388thalpha]

Why don't you set everything to Zero then try and add remove from there?

[@chrishammillaudio]

No need to when I already hear what needs to be changed.

[@robfriedrich2822]

Help, they have distortion

[@chrishammillaudio]

The point of my visit!

[@JesseJamesRochaNJ]

i feel like he has no idea what your saying at times lol

[@chrishammillaudio]

Probably

[@Trobmu22]

Hello love the video!! Could i get you to email me?

[@chrishammillaudio]

You could email me.

[@Trobmu22]

I had emailed a couple of times not sure if I have the right email.​@@chrishammillaudio

[@chrishammillaudio]

Email is in description. I’m responding to emails as fast as I can.

[@Trobmu22]

Okay no problem just making sure I had the right one!! I appreciate you responding!​@chrishammillaudio