Fixing broken Jack sockets on Mixing desks

[@zibbezabba2491]

Client: Don't move any buttons, don't move any faders Me: In that case pay me first.

[@alandixon7248]

Not boring at all Markus. I hate working on mixers with single boards because of all the knobs, pot nuts and jack nuts to take off, not to mention the screws before you even get to the electronics. A great repair, well done!

[@roadwarrior4080]

I only work on REAL recording and live mixing desk Not junk bought at GC or some other consumer BS music store !! Those boards are disposable, but every once in a while i get a request to mod or add xformers to channels internally to some of that junk, ive had to add ferite beads to the inputs of so many mackie boards because they rf so bad you could pick up 3 radio stations at same time and dial them in seperately by using the eq and pan... gotta love that !!!!

[@ChrisCebelenski]

WTF - can't move the pots? I certainly wouldn't commit to that - you want it fixed, take your own pictures and reset it after.

[@djBlindFaith]

Chris Cebelenski or buy a new digital mixer with instant recall... Behringer x32/x-air, Presonus StudioLive, A&H QU series... surely the band has to do a different mix for different venues... absurd to try and keep settings during a repair.,,

[@JacobKelly02]

@@djBlindFaith yeah i agree, cant imagine same mix in all venues and the channel faders look maxed out

[@gorillaau]

You'd want to be pretty good friends ahead of time. I would recommend it for a walk in who you don't know.

[@roadwarrior4080]

Chris Cebelenski thats because they had somebody come in and ring out the system because they didnt have the skill to do so, so dont touch the knobs...lololol sounds like garage band days lol

[@ThomasGrillo]

Great job, Mark. That had to be so stressful when the owner said "don't move pots, or sliders". Well, at least we now have a snapshot of what settings they used. :)

[@Rompler_Rocco]

NEVER boring, and JUST in time!! I serviced my first mixer this week, on an older Behringer which was basically 1 board split in 3, and it was tedious enough to put me off tackling my far more massive Carvin desk.. but now I have hope that maybe I can get in there without stripping the entire thing down to a mess! Markus, you are a real treasure to so many of us!! 🙏👍👍

[@iqi616]

Always worth taking a peek.

[@oneammonday]

Amateurs: "DON'T TOUCH THE KNOBS, BUTTONS, OR FADERS! (because we have no idea what they do)."

[@MarcWeertsMusic]

That’s what I thought... As well as 'we don’t have cameras and don’t know how to take notes'...

[@diabolicalartificer]

Agree . A&H did or do printed sheets showing knobs, pan pots, faders etc so that you can do a chart showing settings for a mix, gig or whatever, as did most desk manufacturers. Also, unless the mixer is a house mixer, control settings should change for every location ( but they'd still change for different bands) and any good engineer would keep notes.

[@oneammonday]

In my eagerness to poke fun at the band owning the mixer, I forgot to commend Markus' brilliant work in repairing said equipment. Thank you for another pleasant, insightful video, Markus.

[@Bring_MeSunshine]

I was in a band like that briefly; they had no idea what they were doing, but they'd bought a board (brand new & overpriced imho) and wouldn't let anyone near it. I mentioned I'd done my stint as a live engineer, and regularly used both hardware analogue boards & software consoles in my DAW, but they just looked at me, suspiciously. Numpties

[@diabolicalartificer]

@@oneammonday Seconded

[@andrewreynolds2647]

Great job, these Allen and Heath are bullet proof I would not trust anything else for live or studio based on value for money. Great channel.

[@roadwarrior4080]

Ive had several of their boards and repaired and maintained many they are a decent board the system 8 and the ml series are the best mid quality board and bang for the buck didnt like the fixed EQ on system 8 but it was musical so i could make it work, but you have to spend serious money if you want a Pro modular version of their serious offerings syncon A comes to mind cumbersome routing but fabulous sound, should of stayed in that direction but they had to get into the prosumer market and ruin it

[@andrewreynolds2647]

Medicine Man , Hi totally agree with you but as ever it is all down to component and production cost, plus the little matter of desirability which of course is their core business. I have had several of there mixers never had issues with any of them gigging or in the studio, as I am now old and decrepit and no longer gig I have settled on the Zedi 10 fx which suits my home studio perfectly with the added bonus of usb 4 in 4 out for recording sounds great at the 96khz, cheers. Andy.

[@mannyflorio8103]

ive had mine for 15 years now. love it.

[@34Kuro]

nightmare, especially with that "don't move any pot-fader" order.

[@BlackNapkin61]

Thanks for that.. always good to see someone that knows what they are doing.. 10/10

[@user0000user]

Please repair my bicycle but don't change gears cause I'm a absolute moroon

[@ASH-ou4cg]

I always love your videos. Your presentation is great and what you do is so daunting to me. Keep up the great work at making broken things work again!

[@donmundt3573]

Great Video! I personally would have told them to print out a track sheet from A&H and write down all of their settings. I can't believe they hadn't already done that.

[@fladification]

I'm so glad this popped up in my feed, if for no other reason than the "Q-Tip Tip" Thanks cotton bud!

[@twotone3070]

You'll have trouble getting those plastic ones in the UK at least.

[@fladification]

@@twotone3070 Good thing I'm in Texas, picked some up from the local dollar store just yesterday. Thanks again for the awesome tip.

[@ElectronicazMusic]

Beautiful vid as ever. Very interesting too. I've taken a mackie 1604vlz to bits to clean a few crackly bits... Never again! Knobs everywhere! Haha.

[@tekvax01]

Let me get this straight... I can't touch the knob, faders, or buttons! Sorry, but I will not work under those conditions! I can't help you repair your board! FULL STOP!

[@ranzee]

Great video Markus! (as always)

[@kosmikmusa]

Good tips. Thanks for sharing this.

[@NiamorH]

maybe the black plastic screws were acting as spacers to avoid contact between the two boards?

[@purpleviolin]

That mix gain staging setup. Eek. I wonder how they got to that mix. Definitely they could see benefits from going digital if they don't run with an engineer on the road. Avoiding Soundcraft ui16, the UI24R is good, Also the Behringer rack mounted ones look great for band use.

[@KireTheCat]

it looks like they are using all of those inputs, so a rack mounted mixer wouldn't be very good.

[@doktoruzo]

always interesting Markus...deffo not boring. More videos please

[@AndreasSchlitzkus]

Even if you adjust them always the same, the sound would be very different, because every venue sounds different (resonant frequencies, dampening, etc). Thats not the way to do any sort of successful sound mixing. Better leave it to someone who knows what he/she is doing.

[@Gobhoblin126]

I'd guess what happened to that jack was that someone tripped over the cable plugged into it, snapping the tip off the jack and breaking the threads. Always interesting to see inside different gear.

[@h.o.t.f.i.x]

Haha "Totally Ffff.... not in the best condition."

[@truthseeker3907]

Good job Markus Fuller / Flash! Thumbs up! :) Indiana USA.

[@RegebroRepairs]

THAT'S their fader settings? All on almost full!? That's gonna overdrive the summing circuits...

[@roadwarrior4080]

But it makes it sound so narly dude !!! lmao !!! Some people will never get it or understand the gain stage or fader level you cant run those cheap ass mixers like that because they have no headroom to begin with and will saturate like fuzz face on a bad acid trip not that you should ever really go past unity

[@KWHCoaster]

Not a tip from a 1/4" mono plug? I got the tips stuck in my Komplete Audio 6 XLR combo jacks after pushing 1/4 mono cables in too far. They had a death grip on the plug and the pressed on tips pulled off when pulling on the cables. At least I can use XLR cables now. Great video.

[@countteddy]

nothing worse than getting the tip stuck...........

[@1234588001]

hi that's a brilliant video I just have a question I have a powered studio master desk with Jack outputs could this be changed to speakon outputs thanks

[@gregwolking]

13:07 Those little plastic posts that you tossed aside because they are "a complete waste of time" are stand-offs that support the board against (and isolate it from, electrically) the bottom of the case. Considering that this is "road gear", I hope the board doesn't work itself loose over time -- either pulling out of the connector on the top side or shorting one or more component leads against the metal bottom plate -- and kill the entire mixer (or, at least, the effects bus) as a result. That's probably not very *likely* considering that there is also a screw holding the middle of the board in place, but still, that was definitely *not* your most brilliant idea, mate! ;)

[@bobjerome5390]

hi thanks for the jack info i pick up a betacam digial this week made like a tank lucky i had a spare card for the audio side as audio was playing up they are so easy to fix if you can get the parts i love your video's my mates got a akai 1720 i fixed for him

[@mannyflorio8103]

I have an Allen and Heath Z24( No fx). Aux 1 and 2 are not working. I'm thinking that the contacts have been bent and therefore not making a connection with the jack. My question is, can the internal parts of the jack be accessed to bend the metal spring connection, or do i have to replace the jacks? Thank you for the very informative video.

[@markusfuller]

to be honest I do not know if you can access the internal part of the jack. some you van some you cannot it depends what type A&H used for that mixer.

[@timdriscoll8712]

Hi Mark, I'm looking for a couple of Neutrik NC3FIP female Xlr sockets for an old peavey mixer. Don't suppose you'd know of a source for them. They are obsolete now and I'm all out in my parts bin. Cheers.

[@bzakie2]

Not boring at all. Good stuff.

[@quertize]

The temptation to move the pots...

[@iqi616]

Reminds me of an old Rod Stewart documentary (70s). A radio station was keeping him waiting so he started at one end of the mixer deliberately turning each pot. I think he'd only got to channel 3 when they suddenly found time to talk to him. :)

[@jojonimo04]

Hi, I have a broken RCF F-6X XLR connection resulting to no sound but to fix it I need to remove all the control knobs and that's where the problem lies. I don't know how to remove the control knobs. Can you please make tutorial on how to take out the control knobs. Thank You!

[@ry4no]

Subscribed! - KZbin finally giving me decent recommendations!

[@markusfuller]

Thank you. I hope I have some interesting videos for you. best wishes

[@cbmsysmobile]

Tut. Just about to go to bed and then I see a new upload by Markus.....

[@craigshaw141]

Check out 13:40... Do those gain controls seem a bit hot to anyone else?

[@jeffhohner9298]

Hi Markus, I would bet a fair amount of money that if you quizzed the owners, you would find that the jack had a plug in it that took a mighty yank or hit, breaking off the end of the plug and the threads at the top in one event. I have seen this before in other gear... Cheers!

[@andersici270]

Was that a TC electronic DB Max you used as a donor

[@peteytwofinger]

good job there pal ! and hats off for having the part even though you only had one but thats always how it seems to go isnt it ?

[@ramrecords1]

Has reparado un mixer.. RAM micro 16 ...de los 80 ...saludos from chile..

[@radiopete7290]

Markus, my headphone jack has broken off into the Headphone insert - the tip has completely got jammed in. How can I get it out without dismanteling my Audio Desk? It's a Hill Audio Soundmix 16track analogue mixer from the 70's ... I wish I could share a Picture? You can see the tip but I just don't want to cause any damage by just pulling it out - what is tricky is plyers wont fit in the hole.. Pete

[@davidtucker2821]

Hello Mark I have a alan and heth mixer one of the monitor jack input dosant work .can I ask where about are you based cheers

[@williamcarey90596]

My cosole is also allen and heath zed 22fx,it has gain knob that is if i increase the range then a disrupting noise is takes place... Is there any solution

[@wazhoola14]

I've got one of those de-soldering irons, interesting you said 'they're great when they work!', do you mean when they do their job properly or do you mean when they actually heat up as in 'work'? Mine is so temperamental, often it just won't get hot at all, any ideas where to start looking for the problem, I've had it apart as far as it will tear apart but there's no obvious problems, sometimes giving it a smack can get it going but that's rare.

[@roadwarrior4080]

Desoldering braid or wick is the propper method to use i only use a sucker on old reuse xlr or 290's jumbo 180 when cleaning for reuse

[@Annies_E_P]

Sounds like you have a HR (hi resistance or intermittent discontinuity) inside the element... Good luck with that!

[@Mane01mlp18]

I have a sennheiser ew 100 g1, the receiver is making a bunch of loud noice and can barely hear my voice, im thinking its the jack socket that is broken, cus i have tested with other cables

[@cartoon-galaxy8707]

Bro my allen heath Qu 32 digital mixer some times not working the touch screen and the faders and some times its all the switchs are not working and some faders are vibrate or not perfect working. How i can solve or solution pls give....

[@TonyLing]

I believe it is the end of the line for the plastic cotton bud Markus

[@buixote]

Total newbie question... so these sockets are unique to the manufacturer, or might you find one in a catalog if you lacked a "donor board"?

[@mudsharkable]

Goto: cliffuk.co.uk, that's where they come from and basically every electronics supplier stocks these and most manufacturers use them.

[@markusfuller]

They are not unique to the manufacturer. theres just so many different versions that you can buy pins on the bottom or pins on the side. slightly different spacings etc. you will always be able to get them somewhere.

[@stanspb763]

@@mudsharkable There are several brands that are plug-in replacement. I use the version from Amphenol. They come in a couple pin spacings so most shops stock dozens of different TS and TRS jacks.

[@Wizardofgosz]

Wow. You're fixing their mixer and they asked you not to change one setting? That seems completely unrealistic under most circumstances! I've been running live sound for decades and every gig/venue is different, so I don't even see the point. But hey, speaking of fixing A&H mixers, we have one at a venue where I occasionally work, and Aux5 is super low output and distorted. I'm thinking maybe it's the summing amp for that aux, but have heard nightmare stories about opening that mixer up. Wanna come across the pond to the states and help? :-)

[@roadwarrior4080]

Mix wizard ?

[@roadwarrior4080]

Which model A&H do you have at venue

[@Wizardofgosz]

@@roadwarrior4080 GL2200

[@Slope114]

rubber stoppers were probably there to prevent a short, in case the board falls out.

[@WARDISWARD]

The MacGyver of electronic repair :)

[@JUANKERR2000]

Pedant's observation - A jack is a socket by definition.:-)

[@stanspb763]

That threw me a bit after moving from the USA where sockets are jacks, to Russia where male plugs are "jacks" and someone wanted me to wire a set of patch cord TRS jacks and wired upsets of inline female jacks, when he wanted TRS plugs on cable ends. I had shipped over 500lbs of test equipment for hobby and design activities but ended up creating a service shop as a side business which turned out to be the only one with a business license in a city of over 5,000,000 people.

[@crazyboy2006cashier]

First board I self taught on

[@KillerSpud]

I had to tear into a bigger A&H years ago when I worked at the local University. Some idiot shorted the P and N pins on a channel with phantom power on. Fortunately I just had to identify the skid-marked resistors and replace them and it served for several more years.

[@markusfuller]

Yes I like allen & heath desks and i have never had to do any complex work on old analog desks. just simply replacing easy to get components.

[@stanspb763]

Shorting Phantom would not burn resistors, the current is limited by 6.8k resistors connecting both +/- of the balanced lines, both pins are at the same +48volts DC in a P48 phantom supply. Shorting them would cause no current to flow. Both pins would be 48v positive above pin 1 ground. Even if shorted to ground the max power dissipated in the limiting resistor would be about 0.250 watts

[@rmellersh]

While you are in there, might be a good idea to 'rugedise' it ie put silicone on the parts that are hanging down it looks just like my A&H with the long strip of ribbon cable that drops with vibration. I'm sure you can figure all that out.

[@stanspb763]

If the header connectors are falling off, replace the whole ribbon cable because it means the contacts are not gripping the pins so even if glued in place, the connections become intermittent. A&H uses pretty good connectors so that is unusual. Those are some of the easiest boards to repair because they use standard parts and they use channel strips so a single channel can be run while outside the mixer so access to both sides of the pc board is accessible for signal tracing.

[@richclips]

Love your videos :)

[@HarmonicaMustang]

If you need to ping all faders at +10dB you're doing something wrong. And you never add the same amount of salt and pepper to every dish, so why would you leave all your pots and faders on the same settings?

[@robgs]

"F" for Fillips Screw? :-)

[@petristorres8647]

😂😂😂faders at full tilt. Why not bring up master fader and drop the faders a bit for some latitude.

[@cybclinic]

Judging by the gain staging, I'm assuming they are aficionados of multichannel fuzz.

[@mudsharkable]

Yeah, that seemed a little screwy to me as well.

[@gorillaau]

Dropping the faders from some altitude would be more fun.

[@Peter-W1]

Yes lots of crap can be found in sound mixers but also a mixture of liqueur can be found often from drunk people hanging over the mixer board and wish music and so, I was a service engineer back in the 80´s so I have seen a lot. 😎

[@Gizmologist1]

Take a close look at the EQ pots. You can bet that is sounds like crap if those setting are not properly adjusted.

[@Balegarul]

i think the rubber pieces are there to prevent shorts but since they bearly stay properly in their holes.. kinda useless

[@noddyspuncture]

Why can't you touch the faders...? Surely the band actually 'mix' with the faders during their gigs... maybe even adjust EQ settings and stuff...? 🤔🤔🤔

[@ScottWayneJackson]

That is so funny - but a familiar story.

[@gnarlysoundscapes7210]

"Dismantle this huge mixer but don't move any of the 200+ knobs or faders on it." You're a far more patient man than me if you took that job.

[@goodun2974]

Pots and faders that are never moved or adjusted will develop intermittent audio eventually. The wiping action that occurs when adjusting levels is necessary for their longevity! I would have taken some pictures of the control settings, so that they could be reset to the same positions after the repair.

[@HarblesTheSkeptial]

For those playing along at home, that connector is a Rean / Neutrik NYS215. I have tried to find them in the past but this video reminded me to search for them. Voilla! www.mouser.ca/ProductDetail/REAN-Neutrik/NYS215?qs=JfNPhaIww3IP3mAnpHYtWw==

[@stanspb763]

The jack had a phone plug tip broken off in the jack, a very common problem.

[@urbannpa]

Any time I fix my audio gear I use a large piece of form rubber.

[@hamish8283]

Why would they ask you don't change anything? I'm a student sound engineer just wondering why someone would tell you not to touch any faders or pops? I mean when they go into a venue they have to do a line check anyway so...... does it matter if everything is just 0. Isnt that standard? Everything just set to 0. If they want pre sets why not just use a digital

[@dglcomputers1498]

With the price of them now I would just tell them to get an X-AIR XR18, you can't knock the faders on the front of one of them as there are none!

[@BoboButYouCanCallMeTom]

I do get that they are a good deal but having faders and knobs is pretty much a necessity if you want to do actual mixing because you're gonna need to be able to react quickly but for smaller set and forget shows the x-air is perfect!

[@dglcomputers1498]

Though one thing that is good about the X-AIR series is that you can control them with the X-Touch fader banks and (on the X32 with X32-Edit on the PC at least) use any Mackie control capable fader bank, so even the older BCF2000 would work. Though in this case as he was not to move the fader/knob positions the point of faders is rather pointless. Set and forget is what mixers like the X-AIR do very well. @@BoboButYouCanCallMeTom

[@Chriss120]

3:20 F is for faulty

[@Sheevlord]

3:14 F as in "press F to pay respects"

[@mitchiemasha]

Any one in the UK, needs ZED knobs or the little buttons. I have them for sale.

[@Instrumentals4Sale]

good stuff.

[@iqi616]

Now that's what I call a Q _tip_!

[@mujdatkurtman194]

Great

[@paulstubbs7678]

That band should visit my church, their 'presets' won't last five seconds, there is always someone......

[@samesong]

FAULTY is the word you were looking for...right? 😉

[@twotone3070]

I was thinking he meant Fubar.

[@mickeythompson9537]

You mean _F_ for 'fubbed'?* * Fucked Up Beyond Belief

[@vannk73]

Here we say fubar.. beyond all recognition

[@fiskfisk33]

sorry, but I just can't keep watching this, the "can't touch the knobs" part is just too infuriating

[@aspectcarl]

Wood is good 👍

[@TempoDrift1480]

Pro Tip. In no way shape or form are ANY of those knobs or faders set for ANY type of performance. If they claim that they are then they won't notice any change in them. If you are commissioned to fix that board then its not your responsibility to make sure they are all back to where they were. If they can't set that board back up in ten minutes or less then they don't need to be operating it. That's like sending your Christmas Tree in to be trimmed with all the ornaments on it and expecting them all back in the same place. That's nonsense. Tell them to get realistic or get fucked.

[@bobjerome5390]

the band got to be cave men band what if something very bad went in the mixer like the power unit i would never ever use this for gig's this is a uk mixer deck they use RS stock jack sockets

[@roadwarrior4080]

Soundcraft series 5 or soundcraft 800b the rest is rubbish except Midas xl250

[@kevinallen9106]

Awww come on, you just made me look for the part on RS now! RS didn't seem to have the right one, however I found it at CPC, and it's a Cliff CL13345 (CPC AV28088). Back on RS, they think that Cliff part number is their RS-PRO part 143-8935 (stamped CLIFF in the plastic!). Farnell it's 2766192.

[@caleb4369]

Ask ing a repair man to repair a mixing board and not touch any of the knobs is like asking a keyboard repairer to not touch any keys

[@markusfuller]

you have a good point there.

[@HBSuccess]

Plz take our board completely apart and replace the socket and jack we smashed off by being careless... but DO *NOT* CHANGE ANY SETTINGS b/c we are totally unreasonable dumfuks who are too stupid or lazy or both to reset them for ourselves. SO - what you should do for them is CA glue (superglue) every last control in place before you start the disassembly. That will ensure their mix is frozen in time, for all time.

[@matt_pears]

Bollocks to em’! They want it fixed m, they have to accept that you will move some of the pots! Bloody amateurs!

[@WalterGalindo]

OMG!! Don’t move the knobs, are you kidding me? Is it a drummer only band? Lmao, that’s pretty good construction design from A&H

[@andrediaz392]

That band must suck if they can't reliably do a sound check more than once in a lifetime... Ridiculous!

[@R74-b7p]

Yeah well.... fix it yourself then!

[@James62]

Don't touch the knobs? Laughable! Amateurs! Monkey see monkey do!