Fixing Fallen Order: How Respawn Can Remedy its Greatest Flaws to Improve Survivor

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@Unidud3
@Unidud3 Жыл бұрын
dude a city level or hub area where if you used your lightsaber the empire would bring down the hammer so you have to use a blaster to attract less attention would be so sick
@jekstter
@jekstter Жыл бұрын
so uncivilized
@sebastiansuazo2734
@sebastiansuazo2734 Жыл бұрын
does kal know how to use a blaster tho ???
@Unidud3
@Unidud3 Жыл бұрын
@@sebastiansuazo2734 he literally has a blaster on his hip in some of the scenes in the trailer
@flavioaraujo2142
@flavioaraujo2142 Жыл бұрын
This or a city level where u have to try to be uncover, a bit like Assassin's Creed
@flavioaraujo2142
@flavioaraujo2142 Жыл бұрын
@@sebastiansuazo2734 yes, u can see it on the new trailer
@xlinnaeus
@xlinnaeus Жыл бұрын
Calling the CEO Patrick Bateman is subtle humour that was not lost on me
@queefyg490
@queefyg490 Жыл бұрын
I came here to see if anyone else heard that 💀
@duckfluff
@duckfluff Жыл бұрын
I thought ea's ceo's name was actually patrick bateman and immediately googled it and found out that is not the case xD
@Im_Blitz
@Im_Blitz Жыл бұрын
Truly my biggest gripe about Fallen Order was the lack of fast travel. They could implement a fast travel feature on the meditation pads where you can rest on them and then fast travel either to your ship (there's a meditation pad on your ship in Fallen Order) or to one you've discovered on that same planet so far. This means on your first visit to a planet, you'll still need to explore it and complete the story path, but these fast travel options will alleviate the annoyance of having to hitchhike back to your ship on a huge planet that's easy to get lost in. It doesn't have to break immersion, just put it in the meditation pads like you did the training simulations post-launch.
@sentientmustache8360
@sentientmustache8360 Жыл бұрын
Or now that the trailer showed you can tame animals, you could hitch a ride on a giant bird/bat/dragon back to the mantis or any meditation spots that are out in the open
@Otakahunt
@Otakahunt Жыл бұрын
but that would break some of the story moments, like when you go into the tomb in zeffo and gain force push or something and then come out and the goats outside are replaced by stormtroopers. Then the other story part where when youre coming back from one of the planets youre ambushed by bounty hunters. These would never happen if you can just fast travel back to the ship. Id say just have better shortcuts. The level design was ok but not the best since shortcuts often also required long travels to get to, especially annoying was the ice caves place... getting to and from the venator wreck is a pain in the butt.
@nowonprzn7442
@nowonprzn7442 Жыл бұрын
I just hope they give a more traditional map. I like the immersion of the holo map but ngl it was annoying asf to navigate.
@graybonesau
@graybonesau Жыл бұрын
a lot of fallen order content wouldnt work with fast travel
@fair6646
@fair6646 Жыл бұрын
@@Otakahunt If it’s story wise you could turn the fast travel off easy solution 🤷‍♂️
@raptorzz8571
@raptorzz8571 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’m definitely excited for Jedi Survivor to see if Respawn can improve on Fallen Order and the cinematic trailer has got me very intrigued when it comes to the story. I do think we’ll most likely get larger planets with Coruscant showing up in the trailer
@FutureDarkJedi
@FutureDarkJedi Жыл бұрын
Using Republic Commando OST is an immediate like for me My main problems with Fallen Order were the feel of combat, performances issues (PC), lack of fast travel, useless collectibles (and mostly ugly), and certain elements of the story. I'm more a "reflex" guy, when I see the first indication of an attack going my way, I mash the dodge/parry button immediately. Which obviously isn't the right thing to do when it's all about timing. It was frustrating at first and I had to learn to be more patient in my way to apprehend the gameplay. But even doing so, I often felt like the game wasn't really responding to my inputs in the ways I intended them. I often ended up being hit anyway while dodging in ways that felt unfair, or when jumping over attack waves etc etc. Sometimes the parry timing also felt weird, as if it was expected of me to parry so late that I had to basically wait being hit and then parry. It made the overall experience frustrating to me since I felt like that even learning the move set of an enemy wasn't enough, there would be a part of """random""" that sometimes would get in the way. Surely I'm not a pro player/speedrunner & I had never played any "Souls like" game before, but still. Even after taking my time learning how the game worked, I just couldn't get the grip with Fallen Order's combat, at least not to a point of real satisfaction. I was also very disappointed with technical issues. I first tried Fallen Order when it originally came out, back in 2019. Back then I had a good enough PC (1070 GTX + Intel Core i7 + 16gb RAM), but I experienced dramatic frame drops at certain points of the game. And overall, I also had random frame drops here and there, often enough to be annoying and disrupting. Tried to play with every options in low, didn't change a thing. Back then I saw on forums & all people with similar specs to mine, disatisfied with the way the game was running. Felt like I'd wait for a new PC to play again. Which I did. I have today entirely different specs in a new PC (AMD proc + Radeon GC), which is considered high end as of 2022 standards. It. Didn't. Change. A. Thing. Still having the same kind of inexplicable drops. So I took it on myself to endure it and finish the game anyway. Even though it runs smoothly in 1440p 90FPS with high settings, I still experience the same drops I used to have with my old PC. In some locations in the game, the drops are clearly happening in very specific places, I guess when the game is loading the next zone or something like that. But it also happened randomly during gameplay, which makes things difficult & frustrating when you're trying to time a parry or during a jump/slide sequence etc. The drops went as low as 30 fps, so even capping fps at 60 wasn't a "reliable fix". It made the overall experience more painful than necessary, and sometimes infuriating when the drops happen in the middle of combat and you end up taking avoidable damage. Or falling in a jump sequence. The lack of fast travel speaks for itself, it was just boring to roam around a level you've already completed. As said in the video, it's not fun enough to justify its absence. And shortcuts aren't "fast enough". Sometimes the map is also pretty cryptic, it's not always easy to find your way again. You come back to it again and again. Fast travel would alleviate the issue. Almost made me quit the game multiple times. When it comes to collectibles, I was very disappointed in how they looked. Light sabers were fine but the clothes are mostly laughable. Ended up playing a big part of the game without any poncho. It feels like clothes were an afterthought in the project, at this point I would have preferred a greater looking char design without any customization. About the story, my main problem with it is how "fast" it felt. I mean, it feels like the story happens during only 2 or 3 days. Like, Cal runs away from Bracca and in the span of 3 days, found all of his powers back (and then some), mastered his feelings and thoughts, and got the holocron. He went from a hidden Padawan who wasn't training and using the Force, to a Jedi Knight able to fight inquisitors and win, a little bit too fast. I know it is a video game, but if it has to be cannon, I'd like it to be closer to what we know about how long it actually is for most people to become proficient with the force. Obi-Wan winning his fight against a Sith (Maul) as a Padawan was a very rare feat. And that's fucking Obi-Wan Kenobi. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioObpKqLlLSFhNk I'm aware that Cal gets saved multiple times during his fights against the inquisitors, but he still ends up beating them shortly after. Call me a nerd for nitpicking about this, but I like it when a win like that means a lot. It has become too common in the franchise that barely trained force users achieve amazing feats (Hello Rey & Leia) and it makes it loose meaning. Anyway. Also the high speed train sequence in the begining is very cool. Too bad it only happens once, I wish there were more set pieces like that in the game. Overall, not a bad game by any means. But I don't see myself going back to it pretty much ever. So, yeah I hope they'll fix the technical issues when it come to the PC version (I don't know if consoles had similar problems), that's actually the main thing I'm expecting. I can get over being hit when dodging and all, I accept that I'm not pro anyway. But I'd be very disappointed if the game runs in a inconsistent manner again. I also hope for better cosmectics, and a more diversified story.
@raviolimatt
@raviolimatt Жыл бұрын
I think my biggerst issue with Fallen Order is the stim timing, it getting cancelled by every thing and having to wait for BD to throw me one and for Cal to use it so I can get healed, specially on fights that i have little to no time to breathe, cause the enemy have a dash to get cloe so me or a ranged atack.
@sofialu226
@sofialu226 Жыл бұрын
That was me against Malicos in GrandMater difficulty. Many of the times I deis were when I was trying to heal an Malicos decided to do some jump atack to reach me.
@Mark-in8ju
@Mark-in8ju Жыл бұрын
The Survivor game should have a BD-1 upgrade that injects stims into Cal directly.
@Nemoticon
@Nemoticon Жыл бұрын
I just picked up Fallen Order for $10 on sale... I only picked it up because it was so cheap on Steam and din't expect much, but I was plesantly surprised and entertained. The gameplay wasn't bad, but it was nothing new or spectacular, it was the story that drew me in and the characters that felt fully fleshed out and relatable. I was more than happy to simply play it through in story mode with no intention to put any more time into it after the story was complete. So for me it was short but served it's purpose.
@drakejohnson5386
@drakejohnson5386 Жыл бұрын
Something that I have always wanted is a combat system surrounding the 7 lightsaber forms. I don't think that we could expect 7 different combo chains, but I think choosing a form, receiving passives and hindrances and maybe some different animations is doable. An example is how form 2 makes one on one duels easier, which could translate to making parry windows larger, increasing posture damage or increasing damage against posture broken enemies. They could make blaster deflections harder and hinder abilities that deal with groups. Form 6 is used to focus on force abilities over leaning on your lightsaber. This could be the only form to passively Regen force power, make them cheaper or something else. Possibly decrease posture damage or health damage output. Another interesting system that would be interesting could be a passive and active force perk system. Imagine the chip system in Nier Automata, where some chips require more energy. Imagine a system where your force connection is like that energy bar, and you can take certain passives and active abilities+ modifiers that make up your increasing force connection. I found it odd how much difference there was between normal attacks and the force imbued lightsaber attacks. I get there is stuff like force speed, but still. Finally an interesting showing of progression could be to change the type of game it is based off. Dark souls inspired games try to make the combat more grounded* where any foe can kill you if you don't respect it. Which makes sense for a Padawan, but after the last game and training, Cal should be like a knight and so if the game choose a different inspiration, like DMC, that would be an interesting way to represent that. An interesting idea is to take DMC5's Virgil concentration meter and take it to star wars. The light side requires focus where the dark side requires passion. I could see the game make you go down a dark side path if you go wild and less focused by getting hit. Staying centered by deflecting everything could lead to staying in light side. Maybe having the power of a DMC character is not equal to a Jedi knight and more akin to that of a Jedi master. It's an idea for later? Just some of the nerdiest thoughts imaginable.
@mohsendaneshwar19
@mohsendaneshwar19 Жыл бұрын
Dude. I love your ideas, especially the one with the 7 lightsaber forms. I'd really like to see that or someting familiar like that too.
@theendersmirk5851
@theendersmirk5851 Жыл бұрын
Probably not quite DMC levels of power, but it would be advisable for them to make a forms system as you suggest. Maybe have him collect holocrons explaining each form during the course of the story, perhaps even making a handful of form exclusive techniques.
@vamercy8478
@vamercy8478 Жыл бұрын
They said there is multiple forms to fight in with lightsabers so they might be in the game
@atharvavadeyar5157
@atharvavadeyar5157 Жыл бұрын
Fallen Orders parry timings are also a bit weird They seem to be a decent bit earlier than "as the strike comes in", which means you can't really instinctively parry them like you can in sekiro
@binksmagnus
@binksmagnus Жыл бұрын
On JGM I always felt like the parry window was way smaller than Sekiro, which was surprisingly really forgiving, but didn't really have your experience I guess.
@atharvavadeyar5157
@atharvavadeyar5157 Жыл бұрын
@@binksmagnus ime it wasn't the actual size of the window just when it starts and ends in the animation I only really noticed because I was doing a playthrough of sekiro along side JFO It was much easier to ditch the "learned" timings in sekiro and just go on pure instinct than it was on JFO (in my opinion because of the placement of the parry window)
@whatever3912-h7e
@whatever3912-h7e Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and there is also an issue with what happens after the window ends. In Sekiro the parry window is always accompanied by a much larger block window that is after the parry window, so you aren't punished so hard for parrying to early. In Fallen Order parry window is early and there is no safety net, after missing a parry you can't really try to start parrying the rest of the combo like you did in Sekiro, In my opinion moving the parry window later and adding a block window after the parry window would greatly benefit FO and incentive learning how to parry consistently. I really liked the game but it really is "Sekiro but worse". Although being like Sekiro is fine, Sekiro is a masterpiece.
@davidd.6448
@davidd.6448 Жыл бұрын
@@whatever3912-h7e In the case of Sekiro and Fallen Order, I believe they were both released around the same time so the devs probably only had the Souls games as reference (where the parry timing also sucks). I hope Respawn have sat down and studied Sekiro this time around and implemented its best features into Survivor.
@stuartl7761
@stuartl7761 Жыл бұрын
19:57 my exact reactions to all the chests. I don't know why I love them so much, but my main criteria for Survivor is if they have more ponchos or something else I didn't know I needed.
@ChiefsKCtown
@ChiefsKCtown Жыл бұрын
The way you hadn't been fazed by 1004 levels is just wow
@habijjj
@habijjj Жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna disagree on one thing areas being populated specifically in this game. The whole point is that your away from civilization trying to survive and figure out where you need to go the planets you go to are specific planets that are essentially abandoned. If anything it sets the game apart from those other star wars games it makes you feel alone the only interaction cal has is with greez and cere and all the people trying to kill you. Now for the sequel I'd agree cal isn't exactly running away or surviving so it makes way more sense in that way.
@0tisAlexander
@0tisAlexander Жыл бұрын
It said in the trailer that Cal was the Empire‘s most wanted so I think he does have to run and hide.
@jensenspencer6861
@jensenspencer6861 Жыл бұрын
I think it would be super cool if Cal accidentally tapped into the Dark Side. We could unlock an entirely new skill tree for dark side abilities. Image how awesome it would be to tear through hoards of stormtroopers with force lightning, or regaining Health after killing enemies with Force Drain! This could also open up some really interesting story potential, as Cal struggles with either embracing or fighting this new found power. That's my opinion anyway. What do you guys think?
@jmdyt3626
@jmdyt3626 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this game for me the biggest issue that was so annoying was the map I was going for the platinum and trying to follow the map is so bad
@SampleBear
@SampleBear Жыл бұрын
My biggest complaint was the map system. It was like trying to find a needle In a haystack
@zzodysseuszz
@zzodysseuszz Жыл бұрын
@@CalebBerman shut up. I’m Christian and I’m still calling you an annoying prick. No one wants you, go away
@atleastdecent3810
@atleastdecent3810 Жыл бұрын
I think that in the post game or after you completed the planet's story, all collectibles and force locations and the like should be given points on a map, so you can find them easier. Also some type of fast travel
@InspectorWhoReacts
@InspectorWhoReacts Жыл бұрын
You've certainly hit a lot of my feelings with Fallen Order and hopes for Jedi Surviver. Indeed I would love a way to play passively in the game with mind trick and calm animals, for a game that didn't want to focus on dark side powers they did lean a lot into aggressive gameplay with killing giving your force back and XP, feels more Sith then Jedi. Also a way to continue combos when dealing with bosses would keep combat flowing nicely and feel just like how we see it in the movies. If Fallen Order is our Assassin's Creed 1, I hope Surviver is our AC 2/Brotherhood.
@MusicaX79
@MusicaX79 Жыл бұрын
Make the boss fights not petty. The best Fight in the game was against Taron Malicos, it's only boss fight where parry actually works properly and does anything. Compared to general combat where parrying is the focus going to a boss fight where dodging is the focus, is not only jarring it sucks to play.
@binksmagnus
@binksmagnus Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you definitely can be parry focused in the other fights against Inquisitors, it’s just way more effective to dodge. Agree it’s kind of weird since they spend the entire game pushing you to parry.
@chillpill1266
@chillpill1266 Жыл бұрын
taron malicos was a pretty badass boss anyway, would've been nice to have him as the main villain over trilla. Trilla was boring
@phoenixwithsomeflair
@phoenixwithsomeflair Жыл бұрын
Me who always rolls in regular combat: Haha ha...yeah totally
@victorperezurbano9504
@victorperezurbano9504 Жыл бұрын
Precise dodge is the most satisfying defense tool in the game.
@sonder_1620
@sonder_1620 Жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the Respawn Logo, I knew that quality was implied. Regardless of EA, they’re a talented studio. Plain and simple.
@damnimreally1604
@damnimreally1604 Жыл бұрын
3 min in and you gained a sub, just great vibes bro. You have a great relationship with your voice and presenting it in this format, all the best of luck to you! Oh also, Merry Christmas! (Or happy holidays :))
@StickNik
@StickNik 2 жыл бұрын
Good ideas, but please no RPG gear stuff. Cosmetics were basic, but better than the mass of God of War armours and shit in the new games compared to old. I want to keep this a Souls-like more reliant on skill growth and consistency in opposition abilities, I don't want to go anywhere near having to level gate areas or worlds when I'm leaning more to opening up choices in paths like the Zeffo/Dathomir choice alludes to. Maybe exploration could lead to more skill points, or you could have a blueprint/upgrade system a bit like Dead Space but limited to those specific upgrades to tools being on a different system to force ability upgrades you get from XP levels, like faster blaster cooldowns, faster BD-1 utils like stim speed and storage that we already had in the first game, maybe some lightsaber tweaks that affect your movesets in small ways that adjust damage speed and posture.
@baki484
@baki484 Жыл бұрын
I agree on the rpg stuff.
@Grivian
@Grivian 2 жыл бұрын
I love Fallen Order and I'm excited for Jedi Survivor. But still I would like a sequel to jedi knight where you are a really powerful jedi. I don't want to see Cal getting Starkiller level power though. Both series can coexist in harmony
@moritzschaller5547
@moritzschaller5547 Жыл бұрын
Every developer for the new game should watch this (even though it’s a bit late for survivor)
@Alan_Skywalker
@Alan_Skywalker Жыл бұрын
I really don't want a major stat system, the one in this game is already good enough. With points you can increase your damage and health, through progression you gain abilities, and that's enough. A complicated stat system will make the game a math game and way less skill based. I don't want enemies to interrupt executions either. In real combat scenario a soldier will not be locked in some animation and can't defend himself, execution is a game thing and should remain this way. The aspect I most want improved is the delay between when you press the button and when Cal actually reacts. Sometimes I feel I have quick reflexes but the game doesn't care, I have to "predict" when the enemy attacks.
@victorperezurbano9504
@victorperezurbano9504 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree. It is so tiresome to having to focus on builds and specialization like in elden ring kind of games. I want to be able to do everything without having to worry about that part of the game. One of the best things about Fallen Order is that once you get used to them, you end up using almost every ability in the skill tree in combat depending on the situation on the regular and intuitively.
@bandawin18
@bandawin18 Жыл бұрын
I can see Survivor improving on Fallen Order the way GoW 2 improved on GoW, where they basically just take everything good about it and make it better, and then take everything bad and replace it with something either less bad or way way better
@akobozaske
@akobozaske Жыл бұрын
Good move introducing 5 characters in the first scene and killing off the one with the most personality. Wouldn't want Disney to crack down.
@imperius3472
@imperius3472 2 жыл бұрын
Yet again this deserves more views! I would love if they would make the combat was more like in Sekiro. Also... you should make an update on this now that the new Survivor trailer came out.
@winterfollowsspring8637
@winterfollowsspring8637 2 жыл бұрын
The storytelling was huge. Even though that final boss fight was kind of meh, the story's resolution right after felt like an accomplishment just because of how attached you get to all the characters. Anyway, F for Trilla Great video
@sebastiansuazo2734
@sebastiansuazo2734 Жыл бұрын
idk, the dact that they went to darth baders location and none of them died is so flimsy
@victorperezurbano9504
@victorperezurbano9504 Жыл бұрын
That moment were Vader grabbed BD-1 almost made me have a heart attack. They really built up an amazing relationship between the two and the second and a half that you think you'll loose him is super stressful. I enjoyed Fallen Order so much.
@rodrigolivsan
@rodrigolivsan Жыл бұрын
I would love it if Jedi Survivor had a base stat and upgrade stat gear system. It would be insane to craft different types of lightsabers.
@Ficohaker
@Ficohaker Жыл бұрын
Really good video man. You earned a sub. Respawn is one of my favourite studios, guys made call of duty when it was good and then titan fall into apex. Amazing developers. Can't wait for jedi survivor!
@mightymadman
@mightymadman Жыл бұрын
This vid is a great watch! I enjoyed it a lot and your points are very well presented and explained, congrats
@elmondo-s1e
@elmondo-s1e Жыл бұрын
Great video, you raise excellent points. I’m just a casual gamer and I loved fallen order for the lore & exploration. It’s up there as one of my fave games. My biggest problem with fallen order was how broken it is, still to this day 😂 replayed it recently and can’t 100% (which was the whole reason I wanted to replay) because I managed to create a situation for myself that invites a stupid bug that’s been well known since it released, but they never patched it. There were parts of the game that also felt completely unfinished to me - some of the map designs (chiefly dathomir and kashyyyk) just felt like they were rushed and didn’t make all that much sense to leave as they were. They were still playable so it was fine, but essentially as far as I’m concerned they can do whatever they like with survivor, so long as it plays smooth and feels just a little better to play than fallen order did.
@Caleb-Reid
@Caleb-Reid Жыл бұрын
Dude I'm just now seeing you for the first time and you're super underrated. Love your work
@ismailmohamed117
@ismailmohamed117 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video got to subscribe after such detail. Glad I came across your content keep up the good work !
@hisbassness
@hisbassness Жыл бұрын
One of the biggest things I was missing in Fallen Order was the itemization. I appreciate that I didn't experience any monetization shenanigans with the itemization, but I really wanted the pieces I chose to use to have some kind of an impact on the game. Going completely statless wasn't exactly what I wanted. Definitely enjoyed it as a whole, though.
@chamow2787
@chamow2787 Жыл бұрын
I definitely think a jedi game should be statless, like, it's a lightsaber wtf do you want to do more damage in it? And clothing, you're a jedi you're not supposed to be hit anyway so why an armor . I like the design this way and not with stats, because stats forces grind and grind is annoyance
@BrandonS101
@BrandonS101 Жыл бұрын
I played the game on the 2nd hardest difficulty and thought the last fight with Trilla was a lot easier than the Malicos fight and maybe even the 2nd to last Trilla fight. I mostly was just hacking and slashing.
@binksmagnus
@binksmagnus Жыл бұрын
You're right, I think Trilla and Malicos are hard in different ways. Malicos is hard because he can kill you with almost any full combo, and Trilla is hard because the set of moves she can use against you at any time is pretty huge, so you need a lot of attempts to learn everything even if she doesn't usually do as much damage (though a few of her combos/abilities can one-shot you.)
@m4y0w4
@m4y0w4 Жыл бұрын
I played the game on the same difficulty as you did and Trilla was the first boss that made me actually drop my difficulty by 1 notch. Ogdo Bogdo made me consider dropping my difficulty but Trilla was just annoying for me.
@SampleBear
@SampleBear Жыл бұрын
Bro had 1004 skill points💀💀💀
@firiozifirion4718
@firiozifirion4718 Жыл бұрын
High quality. Amazing voice. Long content. I love it. You have to make more videos...
@binksmagnus
@binksmagnus Жыл бұрын
More coming!
@firiozifirion4718
@firiozifirion4718 Жыл бұрын
@@binksmagnus hell yeah. Waiting for that Jedi: Survivor content... It's gonna be a big game... I hope EA is not gonna ruin it lol
@kapitankapital6580
@kapitankapital6580 Жыл бұрын
Man, thank you so much for explaining why Sekiro works where JFO doesn't. Sekiro is perhaps one of my favourite games, and Fallen Order never quite clicked the same way with me (not that I didn't enjoy it). I could never quite figure out why but hearing you explain it makes it very clear to me, it is the fact that breaking posture only gives you a free hit instead of killing the enemy (or for bosses giving a big chunk of damage like Elden Ring or God of War does). It would also deal with one of the big criticisms I see Star Wars fans level at the game, that your lightsaber feels more like a baseball bat than a laser sword that can cut through nearly anything.
@TheACMJS
@TheACMJS Жыл бұрын
I think the reason the devs didn't go for an RPG stat system is because they wanted everyone to be happy with the way Cal looked (ponchos) and for players to customize their lightsabers to their hearts content. That being said, I believe a majority of fans have requested more customization. If they did switch to a stat system, I think they should make it to where any piece of armament or tech could be visually replaced with whatever other piece. This way going after chests isn't just for cosmetics, players can customize Cal how they want. On top of that I don't think people asking for a fast travel system don't appreciate the levels. It's just tedious for players who want to collect everything have to retread the same ground multiple times just to get to one area.
@garethalford682
@garethalford682 Жыл бұрын
Did you know the Kashyyek level as a whole tree top wookie village ruins area that was never finished, but you can go there in the game, but the game goes kind of crazy
@HeavyMetalSonicRM
@HeavyMetalSonicRM Жыл бұрын
I hope they tighten up the combat because I hated how the parry mechanic only worked when it felt like it.
@loremafore
@loremafore Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video!!!
@nightmarewolf3515
@nightmarewolf3515 Жыл бұрын
I think your right about them needing to add rpg elements into the game and to me they already have the perfect system for it. Instead of the light saber parts just being cosmetic they could make it to where each part affects something. Like different hilts being affected against blasterblots vs lighsabers
@theyeastwiththeleast4718
@theyeastwiththeleast4718 Жыл бұрын
I love the cosmetic lightsaber bits, I could have had 3 times as many customization options, we needed a lot more outfits too
@Chungi368
@Chungi368 Жыл бұрын
The music in fallen order was great, especially on dathomir, the music on dathomir reminds me of old adventure films
@Xeddicus427
@Xeddicus427 2 жыл бұрын
The level design is horrible. It makes no sense. Everyone is a parkour master apparently, not a damn flat area of land barely anywhere, but bottomless pits abound. It makes going back to those levels with new powers to get to whatever new place you can get to less than appealing since just getting there is a pain in the ass.
@zionkaluahine-gambeng9287
@zionkaluahine-gambeng9287 Жыл бұрын
Maybe for the lightsaber cosmetics, they could of put some perks to each individual lightsaber part to make us more interested.
@jedimasterpickle3
@jedimasterpickle3 Жыл бұрын
...it's funny how basically exactly on the mark you were with your preference for dual-wielding lightsabers in Survivor.
@Unidud3
@Unidud3 Жыл бұрын
upon further review of the trailer I am 99% sure that the very last clip shows a deathblow circle appearing on an enemy and cal executing
@sebastiansuazo2734
@sebastiansuazo2734 Жыл бұрын
thats not new
@Unidud3
@Unidud3 Жыл бұрын
@@sebastiansuazo2734 dude, you have no idea how many people have told me that very thing. What I am saying that I think it is, is new.
@dagreendragon6393
@dagreendragon6393 Жыл бұрын
i hope there a gow 2018 party type system maybe you can take merren or other characters with you
@noahhollen8583
@noahhollen8583 Жыл бұрын
is it too much to ask that lightsaber cosmetics found in chests can act as boosts? so get this. emitter can upgrade damage. hilt can upgrade the speed of attacks etc. etc.
@OneRandomVictory
@OneRandomVictory Жыл бұрын
Doing that just pushes you to always play with the strongest lightsaber hilts which ultimately takes away from the cosmetic freedom of choosing however you want your lightsaber to look.
@pattonramming1988
@pattonramming1988 Жыл бұрын
@@OneRandomVictory or it could encourage more experimentation with the combat style
@OneRandomVictory
@OneRandomVictory Жыл бұрын
@@pattonramming1988 I'd rather them do that with other accessories or just rpg stats though rather than being different lightsabers entirely.
@Unknowngoober
@Unknowngoober Жыл бұрын
"-the final boss will wreck your stuff on the highest two difficulties if you haven't mastered the combat systems." Me evade kick looping her by accident for the first time on jedi master difficulty, without prior knowledge of the game.
@jgn
@jgn Жыл бұрын
I hope that the stance changing is instant, like nioh 2 stances or DMC4/5 style changing
@Wizard_Pikachu
@Wizard_Pikachu Жыл бұрын
This man brought up a Rancor, now we have a week till we kill one
@sofialu226
@sofialu226 Жыл бұрын
I actully love the cosmetics haha. I love personalizing.
@S1nwar
@S1nwar Жыл бұрын
i think when i met the stormtrooper with the machinegun laser was the first time i looked up what keyboard button parry was bound to^^
@rofibhoi9788
@rofibhoi9788 Жыл бұрын
The stat based loot system also brings in a lot of issues tho. It severly messes up the balancing and progression in both GOW 2018 and Ragnarok. I think a handcrafted parts based upgrade system would suit this game a LOT better. Also, a dash could be very nice.
@Lordgrayson
@Lordgrayson Жыл бұрын
This is the second time I've seen someone solve the water puzzle by using slow on the fire orb thing. Pretty sure the intended strat is to throw the orb into the magnet you can turn on and off in that room
@binksmagnus
@binksmagnus Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that’s intended. In the 100% speedrun we just do the trickshot, and it looks cool so I always do it.
@Unidud3
@Unidud3 Жыл бұрын
the words “a mix of god of war and sekiro but with lightsabers” made feel some typa way
@Dass_Jennir
@Dass_Jennir Жыл бұрын
I really like what you propose with the posture meter akin to Sekiro. I think JFO already did a mostly great job when balancing realistic lightsaber damage while still be challenging, but with a more nuanced posture bar, it can still take time to beat an enemy without nerfing the lightsaber. When it comes to stats and more RPG mechanics, idk, I´m going to be the type of adventure game player that has to say they don´t want that. What they could do to spice up the rewards for exploration, without going all the way with a stat system, is maybe getting perks out of certain lightsaber parts or clothe combination. Like getting an extra stim for using X lightsaber crystal with Y hilt, or an extra Force gain when dodging with X poncho combined with outfit Y. No need of statitistics or levels while still affecting gameplay through customization.
@mrsnufflekins3479
@mrsnufflekins3479 Жыл бұрын
2:16 had to do a double take
@swagwolfgang
@swagwolfgang Жыл бұрын
No fast travel and unskipable cut scenes are my only major issues with the game
@Ramotttholl
@Ramotttholl Жыл бұрын
I hope a city scape indeed and the gun being a lower noteriety thing atleast in that map
@Asim-nm1bc
@Asim-nm1bc Жыл бұрын
They should make the cutscenes skippable, if they implement NG+
@williamdinkel2304
@williamdinkel2304 Жыл бұрын
I want to be able to wear more than a poncho and like 1 other outfit. I wanna customize the hell outta my jedi look
@TheeWindmillArchitectGroup
@TheeWindmillArchitectGroup Жыл бұрын
The reason it was good comes down to two words - “Respawn Entertainment” these guys don’t miss, titanfall, apex and now this.
@sebastiansuazo2734
@sebastiansuazo2734 Жыл бұрын
i dont care about anything else but the combat system, "sekiro´s dumb cousin" is what ive been calling this game since it came out, story wise is a nonsense (for each jedi that manages to survive that long after order 66 with the empire knowing about them i get more bugged, and i was already bugged enough with ahsoka meeting luke) character wise ..... is funny that a just remember kal and ... "merin" was it?? idk XD, i couldnt give two shits about anyone else there.
@mbee1337
@mbee1337 Жыл бұрын
pre ordered the upcoming star wars crap, cause I could'nt resist. I'mm desperatly hunting the feeling I had with jedi knight 2 with its story and multiplayer pvp ... I'm a lost soul
@Zmoneytrain
@Zmoneytrain 2 жыл бұрын
1313 Pepehands Great video Binks !
@Jan_Iedema
@Jan_Iedema Жыл бұрын
I’m hoping for smoother animations overall
@kadelcomper
@kadelcomper Жыл бұрын
When I heard Melania music it gave me ptsd of all my failures 10:56
@adam1x
@adam1x Жыл бұрын
love your videos
@lilcutthroat_
@lilcutthroat_ Жыл бұрын
Only problem I had with fallen order, was it was short and you couldn't cut limbs off
@kharijordan6426
@kharijordan6426 Жыл бұрын
It would be cool if every enemies had a dodging mechanic well you have to wait until they attack to swing your lightsaber to cut off something just put them in a stagger state which then you can hit them again to permanently kill them. Super weak small enemies kill you be hit once. Medium enemies twice. Minnie bosses 4 or four and bosses haft to be taken out breaking there focus and posture witch goes down like a health bar. Ok enemies do not have posture bars. I think this leaves room for creativity on enemy attacks and behavior.
@matrix_2296
@matrix_2296 Жыл бұрын
I think maren would be a cool second playable or atreus like character
@dawfydd
@dawfydd 2 жыл бұрын
Its my first time playing the game now, i've been putting off new games to focus on older ones for abit, so i am having that trouble with parrying i've never played the other game nor dark souls (my one attempt trying to get ds1 working on pc a few years ago failed) So i'm dodging a lot and noticing it doesn't really help i've started on master i have some moderate skill i wouldn't say i'm that good.. takes a few deaths to learn enemy timings for me, my biggest issue is that sometimes its a long path to run back to these encounters. I shall try parrying more though on your advice maybe if i can engage with it like you say it'll help for the final bosses and feeling abit better right now encounters with purge troopers i just try to cheese around till i can get a 1v1 and it feels a little painful.
@hovis_esports
@hovis_esports Жыл бұрын
i loved this game when i originally played it, but i was an idiot kid back then that sucked at the combat and when i play it now it’s honestly quite bland. i really hope they improve the posture system in the sequel
@Grivian
@Grivian Жыл бұрын
I don't want stat based loot. That is really boring in an action game
@ieatpotatosalad535
@ieatpotatosalad535 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why companies don’t do something like idk elden ring, god of war, hogwarts legacy, cyber punk. Let’s open up the world for these games
@02091992able
@02091992able Жыл бұрын
They could implement a type of Ai that learns from how you approach combat. Much like how the Alien in Alien Isolation learns as you progress through the game making each encounter a bit different as it learns your tricks, so you have to change it up to escape being killed by it. In this game spam one attack too much or become too predictable and the ai will adapt to parry your attacks. Also, I wish they would abandon the BS of lightsabers don't cut through people is a bunch of BS Disney put down on the franchise and Fallen Order as well. They need to have a system similar to The Force Unleashed games where attacks will damage the targets armor causing it to fall off and in some cases cause dismemberment.
@manukau5271
@manukau5271 Жыл бұрын
They should design the planets like Ratchet & Clank
@centurion8092
@centurion8092 Жыл бұрын
This sounds like THE Act Man
@swagwolfgang
@swagwolfgang Жыл бұрын
Sekiro is my favorite game tied with bloodborne and while im happy the combat is so similar it just overall is a lesser version of sekiros PERFECT combat system imo
@Silentguy_
@Silentguy_ Жыл бұрын
14:57 Wait the Bounty Hunters despawn if they kill you? I don’t think I ever lost to any of the Bounty Hunters but what kind of garbage is that? That completely defeats the purpose of the respawn mechanic
@binksmagnus
@binksmagnus Жыл бұрын
Yep. You get back to where you died and your Souls/XP/Whatever is just sitting on the ground, you interact with it and get them back.
@didier1243
@didier1243 Жыл бұрын
Stats to me never feel good, I hope they don’t go that rout. Do I have the best this or the best that? And then you don’t enjoy the game cause your looting. Having abilities interact with each other seems like a much better idea to me.
@richardwilliams5387
@richardwilliams5387 Жыл бұрын
You start by saying you like the game but refer to it as "Sekiro, if it sucked"?! Saying it's not as "good" as another game is one thing, but that phrasing kind of implied this one "sucks"...
@binksmagnus
@binksmagnus Жыл бұрын
Fair enough. I don't mean to say the combat as a whole sucks, and "...if Sekiro sucks" is mostly a joke. I think the combat as a whole is good, and say as much, but it's similar enough to Sekiro to warrant comparison and outclassed in almost every way within that comparison. Still love it though. Wouldn't have spent hundreds of hours speedrunning it otherwise. The soundtrack, characters, level design, art, etc. all make it rise above its flaws.
@bf2posts935
@bf2posts935 Жыл бұрын
They would put Merrimack in combat with cal so cal is kratos and she is Atreus
@TheGreendaleHumanBeing
@TheGreendaleHumanBeing Жыл бұрын
Hopefully the game will not have bugs every 10 minutes
@magickponch
@magickponch Жыл бұрын
at 20:11 I just beat the game with the same saber
@BrljoMrljo
@BrljoMrljo Жыл бұрын
Played it for story for few days, finished and wrapped up to collect dust. Next time I'll just watch up letsplay's on youtube. It is just not worth regular high proce that they will put on this. I expect again "0" replay level unfortunately.
@fastenedcarrot9570
@fastenedcarrot9570 Жыл бұрын
All of this but also get rid of the slip and slide sections please Respawn.
@dannyg4835
@dannyg4835 Жыл бұрын
make the parry actually hit on frame like sekiro and not delayed bugging your mind
@victorperezurbano9504
@victorperezurbano9504 Жыл бұрын
I like that it has the delay, it takes into account that things don't happen instantly and makes it much more challenging.
@codyhill9914
@codyhill9914 Жыл бұрын
Is that guys name actually Patrick bateman?
@02091992able
@02091992able Жыл бұрын
Taris hasn't been a planet shown in anything other than KOTOR and SWTOR.
@sharkt9877
@sharkt9877 Жыл бұрын
Tbh I kind hope it has multiplayer. But not pvp. My favorite games are just online co-op with friends or couch co-op. If they have multiple playable characters that would work amazing.or so like Mario galaxy have the little robot controllable
@zzodysseuszz
@zzodysseuszz Жыл бұрын
32:10 Atreus is useless. Late game you can’t even tell his arrows are doing anything except for when the game forces you to use him like with the witches
@binksmagnus
@binksmagnus Жыл бұрын
What game were you playing? He's a significant portion of your endgame damage if utilized effectively, especially against enemies who completely control the flow of their encounter (like Valkyries.)
@ingolf82
@ingolf82 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the combat style of Jedi knight: Jedi academy over any other, although, you can completely cheese the game after getting the second lightsaber by picking a double lightsaber (Darth Maul style) and simply crouching while spinning your lightsaber around, no enemy can defeat you while doing this and you maw everyone down easily. but while crouching, you walk slightly slower. I haven't tried it on master mode though.
@firstnamelastname9237
@firstnamelastname9237 Жыл бұрын
I agree. It just felt more natural than that weird refusal to stop moving when attacking that fallen order does. Though your tactic is a completely new one to me and now I absolutely need to try it
@kadenstimpson3167
@kadenstimpson3167 Жыл бұрын
That tactic works well, but could easily be balanced out of a more modern game. I loved the strong focus on attacking with precise angles and timing with less of a focus on defense, instead basing everything off of movement. It really forces you to be conscious of your environment and to use it to your advantage.
@pidgeonmeat2735
@pidgeonmeat2735 Жыл бұрын
I agree on every point but the stat based RPG progression. No one wants to hit someone with their lightsaber and realize it didn’t do lightsaber damage because it was under leveled for the planet they were on. Great vid!! but that idea in particular is dog shit and doesn’t belong in a game like this. (Just my opinion)
@kpag3030
@kpag3030 Жыл бұрын
The damage doesn’t match the weapon for sure. I’d like to see some change to this that makes sense without taking away the fun and the challenge. It’s like spider-man… he can pick up a car and throw it, but it takes 5 punches and a head kick to take down a regular ass human with no armor or special abilities? Yeah it would be boring to one hit kill every enemy, but it breaks immersion for me a bit. The combat is fun but too unrealistic for the character. Would make more sense for Batman or captain America or something.
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