Fixing Pokémon's WORST Signature Moves

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@Rot8erConeX 10 ай бұрын

The problem with "just make it so that Smelling Salts doesn't cure paralysis" is...well, that's (kinda) what IRL smelling salts actually do. They're supposed to cure grogginess in your consciousness. Meaning that if anything, the move should be a stronger Wake-Up Slap.

@MattBudYT 10 ай бұрын

I think smelling salts thematically works better on sleeping targets but then they have wake up slap so that nulls that. Maybe just guarantee no full para on the turn smelling salts is used

@unkindled6410 9 ай бұрын

i think one of the main problem with this move is that haryama doesnt get STAB on it. so eother make it fighting or give haryama part normal type (we dont have many normal/fighting types do we? theres beware and what mega lopunny?)

@berylredburrow__8810 10 ай бұрын

Techno blast, while not a bad move, is underwhelming for 2 reasons. 1. It's a normal move, meaning genesect can't get stab on it. 2.its type changing gimmick requires giving up a held item slot. The simple fix: make it's base type steel, and make the drives key items you use on genesect to change the type, rather than held items.

@nunyabiznes33 10 ай бұрын

I like this. It should have been the same for Arceus and Silvally. Especially Genesect and Silvally, you just stick the items in the slot.

@MattBudYT 10 ай бұрын

Agreed. For balance I’d probably change the genesects design like Arceus depending on the drive so the opponent knows the type of techno blast.

@MattBudYT 10 ай бұрын

I think definitely for Silvally since it could use the buff and freed up item slot. Silvally Steel/Fairy with access to lefties or offensive types with choice items would be amazing

@spook4429 29 күн бұрын

@MattBudYT it actually does change designs, albeit only slightly. You can see what drive is held on the back of the canon

@johnozzmond9728 10 ай бұрын

Regigigas just needs Slow Start to be reduced to maybe 2-3 turns, and maybe make it immune to being forced out. You can stall with Protect easy enough

@bestaround3323 10 ай бұрын

Would be better if it didn't reset on switch out

@johnozzmond9728 10 ай бұрын

@@bestaround3323 also works, though that still means 5 non-consecutive turns of being half-useless

@Gabriel-rj9gn 10 ай бұрын

Oh protect? The move it doesn’t get? It’s THAT bad

@johnozzmond9728 10 ай бұрын

@@Gabriel-rj9gn It learns Protect, or at least in Gen 8

@Gabriel-rj9gn 10 ай бұрын

@@johnozzmond9728 double checked, apparently it got it in swsh. My bad, but also LETS GO

@walkerpierce5446 10 ай бұрын

Here's an idea for slow start: While Regi is warming up and his attack & and speed stats are lowered, his defense stats are raised and the counter doesn't get reset if switched. With ominous countdown messages each time a turn passes.

@TheEmeraldWeirdo 10 ай бұрын

Hey, I had the same idea!

@mertensiam3384 10 ай бұрын

I had the same idea! I also implemented it in the emerald hack I'm making

@Mikescool444 9 ай бұрын

Maybe pull a terraria where every turn, an ominous message split into five verses slowly writes out. Ending with something like “Regigas Awakened!”

@unkindled6410 9 ай бұрын

after the 5 turns, he loses his defense boosts as well as the atk and speed drops, but also recovers up to 50% of his HP too.

@KayzIdeas 6 ай бұрын

1) "Regigigas couldn't get it going." 2) "Regigigas ominously budged." 3) "Regigigas's eyes are illuminating." 4) "Impending doom approaches." 5) "Optimus is in his prime now." @@Mikescool444

@LVJYnepeta 10 ай бұрын

Twineedle on beedrill i think is a pretty simple answer: take it from 25 base power per hit to 50, and raise its poison chance per hit from 20% to 30% -this will turn it from a total 50 base power move with a 36% chance to poison, to a 100 base power move with a 51% chance to poison Alternatively, if we didnt want to buff its poison chance, we could take advantage of beedrills hidden ability sniper by giving it a +1 crit chance as well

@MattBudYT 10 ай бұрын

Give it increased base power and high crit chance for sure! Maybe even the poison chance. Would give mega beedrill a great secondary bug STAB besides just using u-turn

@unkindled6410 9 ай бұрын

i think a 40 per hit would be enough, 50 sounds too strong honestly.

@WimerC10 6 ай бұрын

@@unkindled6410It's on par witu the double hit move like dual wingbeat or double iron bash

@unkindled6410 6 ай бұрын

@@WimerC10 does everyone needs to have a accurate 100BST move before STAB?

@WimerC10 6 ай бұрын

@@unkindled6410 You know that there exists double iron bash, dual wingbeat, etc... with 50 BP, Is it used on all sets of the mons who have it? Also, "Does every mon has to have a 100 BP move before STAB?" - How many pokemons have this move? If they have this move automatically makes this its best move in their sets? If that is true, then doesn't mean that those mons need buff on their movepool? Let's not forget that we're talking about a signature move, and it needs to have some utility, and if a double iron bash, and dual wingbeat can have 50 BP. Why this move can't have it? What are you reasons aside "too strong"?

@joseomarmedinamontes316 10 ай бұрын

Gamefreak on gen 4: yeah, Crush grip max 121 with a horrible side effect Roar of time: a charge move on the Pokémon that controls time Gamefreak on gen 9: let's give Koraidon an free 30% boost to it's attack under sun with an 100 attack that deals more damage if it hits super effectively And Glacial lance with 120 that hits both targets with 100% accuracy

@tigerlover2853 10 ай бұрын

2:33 I love how the beat drop is nearly perfectly times with Regigigas firing off Hyper Beam.

@KraylebStudios 10 ай бұрын

I think Signature moves and abilities were cool back in the day, but now half of the new Pokemon have their own abilities and it's all over the place

@LunaDeaminac 10 ай бұрын

Everything about Regigigas is so weirdly designed. Why does Crush Grip scale to current HP? If the idea is that the target mon gets squashed so bigger mons get hurt more then scaling off of Base HP would make more sense wouldn’t it? I kinda like the idea of a move that hits harder the bulkier the opponent is for Gigas. Slow Start means you’ll want to use it against walls who will have a higher HP base stat anyway.

@seth7514 10 ай бұрын

Regigigas with a trapping move might actually make it viable in RU. That would be too broken for Game Freak, we can't let Regigigas run around in any tier higher than ZU 🤣 No but seriously, great idea I love it ^_^ On that same front, Roar of Time is another signature move that kinda sucks now. Maybe it could get changed to function like Gigaton Hammer and Meteor Assault. That way you could only use Roar of Time every other turn, but Dialga could keep a 150 BP Dragon Type STAB and not have to worry about having a full turn to recharge. Imo this would make the move an interesting tech option for ubers without taking the lazy option and nerfing its BP.

@MattBudYT 10 ай бұрын

Yeah a trapping move could make it even function as a stall killer too which would be cool. Roar of Time is a good move if it was in gen 1 and didn’t recharge on KO. I really like the idea of it functioning like gigaton, you don’t really see it used because the recharge is so huge in competitive

@daofficerofthenoodles7504 10 ай бұрын

I find it funny how NACLSTACK A MIDDLE STAGE EVO is in a higher teir then a litteral legendary lol

@somebodyuknow2507 10 ай бұрын

@@MattBudYTwhich stall player gave you psychic damage such that you turn every sig move possible into a trapping move xD

@KaoruMzk 10 ай бұрын

I saw Regigigas in the thumbnail and my first thought was: "Gigas has a signature move?" 😂

@christiancinnabars1402 10 ай бұрын

For Smelling Salts, they could keep its effects and typing, but bump up its bp to 90. Then, they could have it so that it _only_ cures paralysis for allies, and doesn't damage them. They're already releasing moves like Pollen Puff that differ based on enemy and ally, so why not do the same for Smelling Salts, and by extension Wake-Up Slap? This way, Hariyama and a few others could function as pseudo support mons in Doubles without needing to take a huge hit to their attack options. While they're at it, and while we're still on the topic of Doubles specific moves, they can also make Present function like Pollen Puff. For Crush Grip, they can adjust the base power range from 120 - 1 to 150 - 50. The new formula being "50 + (target's current hp/target's max hp)". Additionally, with signature move privileges, they can make it so that Crush Grip uniquely ignores Slow Start. So off the bat, Regigigas can start throwing off 150 bp haymakers using its full 160 base Attack. The drawbacks being it gets weakened the more the targets get whittled down (but not to literally 1 bp) and only has 8 PP. Regigigas's role with only this change would be to crunch each opposing mon at least once, chunking their hp by a good margin if not immediately OHKOing them. And tanky mons that recover can get hit by a high power Crush Grip repeatedly again and again. As an example, a _max phys def Toxapex_ is taking 83% _minimum_ from a max Attack, Choice Banded Regigigas's 150 bp, Slow Start ignoring Crush Grip. And if anyone says that this breaks Regigigas... Ghost, Rock, and Steel type mons exist. And it is still lugging around with effectively base 41 Speed, so burning it before it can even move or beating it down with heavy hitters is still an option. Hell, 4 well timed switches into Corviknight and your opponent is now stuck with a ZU mon on their team with only 3 moves. I'd even say it needs further buffs apart from this to ever see any usage in higher metas, but that mostly deals with reworking Slow Start itself. The fact that they still haven't doubled Triple Kick's bp despite adding in Triple Axel is criminal. Hitmontop having a potential 180 bp STAB with the help of Technician is a dream that doesn't have to be so distant. Since Aromatherapy/Heal Bell are already moves in the game that cures your _entire_ team of status conditions, Purify could be changed to become a souped up version of those. Your entire team gets their statuses removed, and for each Pokemon healed, Pyukumuku restores 25% HP. If 4 or more mons are healed, then Pyuku gets a fat Full Restore. But unlike other recovery moves, you _have to_ be proactive and swap out in order for your other mons to get statused again. So it can potentially be one of the best recovery moves in the game, but still encourage active play. This would also mean it would have a use in Singles, which the current Purify does not have at all (aside from the super small niche of stopping Toxic Orb/Flame Orb users for a single turn).

@Hyperneosonic97 10 ай бұрын

There are two moves that are commonly overlooked for this kind of thing. I present to you the duology of Mist Ball and Luster Purge, the signature moves of my favourite Pokémon and her brother. On their own, they're not outright _terrible,_ per se... just totally outclassed. Latias and Latios should _never_ use their respective signature moves, as they have a plethora of better Psychic-type options, be it Psychic itself, Psyshock or Stored Power for Latias specifically. This is because Luster Purge and Mist Ball are weak (70 BP), AND only have 8 PP at max, HALF as much as Psychic and Psyshock. Their increased odds of a secondary effect (which is actually pretty respectable) doesn't make up for the absolutely cruddy power. Hell, Mist Ball itself is basically an inferior version of Mystical Fire, which has 10 PP Base, 75 Base Power and a 100% chance to drop Special Attack by one stage, and likewise, Luster Purge is wholly inferior to Lumina Crash, which is an 80 BP move with a 100% chance to drop the target's Special Attack by _two_ stages, that ALSO has 10 PP at a baseline.

@TheEmeraldWeirdo 10 ай бұрын

I think boosting their power up to 100 would be a nice fix. Put them about on par with the rest of the signature Legendary moves.

@Hyperneosonic97 10 ай бұрын

@@TheEmeraldWeirdo Mist Ball and Luster Purge would still be bad there- 100 isn't much better than 90, and it still wouldn't warrant only having 8 Max PP, even with the decent secondary effect (It's no Sacred Fire, that's for sure).

@elijahpadilla5083 10 ай бұрын

@@Hyperneosonic97Here's an interesting one- 85 BP (very slightly less than Psychic), and the guaranteed stat drop becomes a guaranteed stat _drain._ Let me explain- imagine dropping the opponent's Sp. A and boosting your own with the same move.

@Hyperneosonic97 10 ай бұрын

@@elijahpadilla5083 That would help Latias a lot more than Latios, though it still wouldn't help with the PP woes.

@elijahpadilla5083 10 ай бұрын

@@Hyperneosonic97 I mean, most signature moves have 5 PP. They're strong moves with th hard downside of fewer uses.

@typemasters2871 10 ай бұрын

Present should work like Pollen Puff (damage opponents, heal allies) If they want to keep the RNG aspect then this is what I would do When targeting opponent: 10% heals opponent 1/4 HP, 20% 30 power and breaks protection moves, 60% 90 power, 10% 150 power When targeting ally: 10% 30 power and breaks protection moves, 20% heals ally 1/4 HP, 60% heals ally 1/2 HP, 10% heals ally 3/4 HP

@TheEmeraldWeirdo 10 ай бұрын

A move that really needs a buff is Present. Random damage with a chance to heal the target instead of damaging them is just ridiculous. I say make it an Ice-type version of Pollen Puff: 90 base power, damages opponents and heals allies. Considering how many Pokemon can get it through breeding, it'd make a nice coverage option, especially for mons like Togekiss and Raichu, who can't learn any Ice moves normally.

@MattBudYT 10 ай бұрын

That’s a neat idea. Gave me an idea of an ice type magnitude but maybe between 50-150 power with the effect of healing allies.

@grzechu63beta 5 ай бұрын

Kinesis should be Psychic-type version of Freeze-Dry, being super-effective against steel types.

@stevenreckling203 10 ай бұрын

Purify....if pyukumuku had poison heal it would be broken. Just have it hold toxic orb.

@nunyabiznes33 10 ай бұрын

How so? Don't the status have to be on a different target?

@sandsan9838 10 ай бұрын

i would love more videos on signature fix vids. i like the way you think. you dont just bump up damage, you also offer alternate effects/liberties as well. also i wouldnt mind if you tackled rare moves too (as in moves that few mons have). i consider them honorary signatures. like crabhammer, sweet kiss, poison tail, etc.

@MattBudYT 10 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s a good idea. Some of those moves like Crabhammer aren’t bad, but there’s definitely some crap moves a few mons get you never see that could use a buff

@Melficzeero 10 ай бұрын

Crush Grip is a pretty solid move trapped on a terrible pokemon, if crush grip was available on a mon that didnt have 2-3 dead move slots dedicated to counteracting its horrific ability it would be quite usable. Lets you ohko more stuff than Return, but obviously has a downside, which wouldnt be a problem if you had room for 3 attacking moves

@MattBudYT 10 ай бұрын

It would definitely fit on mons like Pinsir and crab pokemon like Kingler/Crawdaunt

@cptcolgenltmajor9246 10 ай бұрын

I like the idea of keeping crush grip the same but making it a trapping move, it deals damage but wants to keep the pokemon in to stall turns

@anthonyhotspot7890 10 ай бұрын

Wrote in chat cuz that leads to better algorythm, gj homie

@JCDragon2819 4 ай бұрын

I think that if they nerfed the effects of Slow Start from 5 turns to only 3, that would be a substantial buff for Regigigas.

@Mngalahad 6 ай бұрын

Its called smelling salts because it cures the paralysis though. Maybe if it was a regular fighting type move when used on an oponent but it cures paralysis when used on ally (works through protect and on hariyama)

@nikaoharbour6962 10 ай бұрын

Iron hands thunder wave + smelling salts without healing paralysis. Even without STAB thats deadly in special cases

@MattBudYT 10 ай бұрын

Give Iron Hands Galvanize as a hidden ability and that would be LETHAL

@squidmom3162 9 ай бұрын

@@MattBudYTiron hands doesn’t need a buff, literally everyone already uses him

@spook4429 29 күн бұрын

With Kinesis, I think it should have the added effect of working as a chip-trapper against steel types. Relatively useless in competetive, but still itd be unique and make sense given the whole gimmick of it is bending metal spoons lol

@unkindled6410 9 ай бұрын

great video, but i have some thoughts on these too; -smelling salts becoming fighting is great, but i dont think it needs to cleanse paralysis but should cleanse sleep, which also should deal double damage. so just letting haryama have STAB on it could make it a cool niche move sorta like a hex/venoshock thing except for paralysis. if its too strong, make it 60BP like the 2 moves mentioned. -kynesis could also be a confusion + reduce enemy evasiveness status move. it could justify the 80% accuracy this way honestly, it would allow alakazam to use focus blast as mentioned too. -i think crush grip dmg formula is cool, i would keep it, but make the formula have a minimum BP of 40, and add the trapping effect for 2-3 turns. honestly gigas here needs an ability rework really but thats abother topic. -yeah no, your triple kick ideas great, i agree. -i think snap trap should just be STAB for stunfisk. -yeah, agree with this too.

@MonsterHunterxRWBY 9 ай бұрын

In Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon (I don't know if this is the case in the other Mystery Dungeon games) not only doe Slow Start only reduce the speed of Regigigas, Crush Grip is capable of doing hundreds of damage against opponents at full health, allowing Regigigas to oneshot pretty much any non-boss opponent (though other moves are needed for ghost types).

@DCBiscuit 10 ай бұрын

The fact that Regigigas couldn’t even get a signature move that wasn’t just a fucking WRING OUT clone is my personal cherry for Regigigas’ cake.

@MattBudYT 10 ай бұрын

The disrespect to this mon has been incredible

@Z.P.1995 10 ай бұрын

I like your video cause they are balanced with fun and competitive fact

@MattBudYT 10 ай бұрын

Appreciate it bud❤️

@sh4dowveil749 6 ай бұрын

My idea for slow start is wild but idc: When the pokemon enters the battle lower its attack and speed stats by 6 stages. At the start of each of it's turns raise its attack and speed by 2 stages.

@godknightomega 10 ай бұрын

I'd completely rework Kinesis. Make it an attacking Psychic type move with 80 base power and has the added effect of hitting Steel types for super effective damage. The animations always involved bending spoons so it's fitting for it to bend Steel types.

@nunyabiznes33 10 ай бұрын

A Psychic Freeze Dry against Steels. Yes.

@MattBudYT 10 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t be against this. Would give zam less reliance on hitting focus blasts. And you have to choose between the slightly weaker move vs. the stronger Psychic that doesn’t hit steels

@godknightomega 10 ай бұрын

@@MattBudYT Best part it's also balanced by the fact it still can't hit Dark types which Focus Miss can. It doesn't completely make Focus Miss an obsolete option but does give Alakazam more tools against Steel types that are paired with types that resist or are immune to Fighting type attacks. However do you think reworked Kinesis with 80 base power, 100% accuracy, and the added super effect vs Steel types is balanced?

@frostyvoid827 9 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure snap trap is grass because GF was planning on giving it to Victreebel and Carnivine

@fabiaaquino2207 10 ай бұрын

Matt is gonna explode and im here for it,Keep it up bro it will reward you❤

@MattBudYT 10 ай бұрын

Appreciate it❤️

@hicjdnfjdj8077 3 ай бұрын

there could be a counter argument about regigigas signature move could be a 95 base power priority with no downsides, but that just me also I think purify should boost your defenses and heal you by 50% hp if you have a status condition, so flame orb strats could be made, just saying and to everyone reading this have a good day/night

@dracotias 10 ай бұрын

Dunno if it gets mentioned in the video yet but Clanging Scales when it was first introduced, pretty good move on paper BUT it was only on a pokemon that WASN'T a special attacker. Thankfully Kommo-o has now gained a decent way of buffing that special attack but still...

@MattBudYT 10 ай бұрын

Kommo-o has base 100 special attack which is very serviceable. Its attack is just a bit higher at 110. It has always been a solid option. Required for its Z move in its debut gen, and good with Throat spray sets after. Plus sound moves going through sub is always great.

@dracotias 10 ай бұрын

@MattBudYT I forgot that it did actually count for Sound effects...Guess the "clanging" but went over my head lol. I never really put much into an actual special Kommo-o mostly due to it's very limited special move pool at the time, now that it gets the likes of Aura Sphere and Boomburst though it's a more interesting concept

@auraygarcia2143 10 ай бұрын

An idea for slow start could be having the 5 turn counter but every turn he gains 10% of his speed and attack. So his 3/5 turn of slow start he would be at 80% power. And don’t reset the counter on switch, but just a thought

@MattBudYT 10 ай бұрын

It’s kind of like Supreme Overlord in a way expect instead of fallen allies you just get the passive boosts

@movementjesus 5 ай бұрын

Kinesis cannot be used to predict dark type switch ins like you suggested because they are immune to psychic type attacks

@MattBudYT 5 ай бұрын

Status moves work differently here. You can kinesis dark types just like you can sand attack a flying type or growl a ghost type.

@movementjesus 5 ай бұрын

@@MattBudYT Oh really? I did not know that, thanks!

@tarunyadav3567 10 ай бұрын

Make dark void 80 acc again :'(

@rjagad 10 ай бұрын

Love this video

@Aivo382 3 ай бұрын

Just add TEN BP to origin pulse to equal precipice blades or either give it slightly more accuracy ;(

@MattBudYT 3 ай бұрын

It already has the rain boost. I think that move is fine where it is😭

@Zapods_ 10 ай бұрын

ngl I like everything aside from your logo , hope it's okay to say as constructive criticism aside from that I really like the video, it's well put together and edited

@MattBudYT 10 ай бұрын

No problem. It was originally made for a different purpose actually but I ended up using it for this channel. I will probably use it for a bit before getting an updated version as I think it does its job now. Appreciate the support and criticism too it means a lot❤️

@nireas570 10 ай бұрын

Make Crush Grip ignore self and enemy stat changes, also working on Slow Start. Maybe make it a static 80-100 power. Alternatively, you can make it like super fang, cutting percent hp.