Fixing the CB650R's Power Problem

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Yammie Noob

Yammie Noob

Күн бұрын

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@yammienoob
@yammienoob 4 жыл бұрын
One or two more mods and this bike will be finished, if you want to help pick them join the discord through yammienoob.co/
@aWardAvs
@aWardAvs 4 жыл бұрын
As an aside, I have this bike with the titanium racing akrapovic single port exhaust. Beautiful sound, and haven’t noticed a real big dip but I have been waiting for a commander to use with the Cb650r.
@jkreed12
@jkreed12 4 жыл бұрын
Yo Yam sauce, fellow member of the subscriber here...I need that bike ...I want that bike...give me....that bike..my r6 is about to bite the dust
@PointlessMiracle
@PointlessMiracle 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Yam, question tho; Why would you ever want to install a powercommander if you can reflash the ECU?
@tywest6553
@tywest6553 4 жыл бұрын
Hey pappa yam , what's the song around 7:30 ??
@Rover4387
@Rover4387 4 жыл бұрын
@@aWardAvs Hey Andrew I have the same setup. Have you had any luck with finding a power commander that works with the CB650R?
@aflacduck2
@aflacduck2 4 жыл бұрын
It's not making more power because your AFRs are out of wack and likely everything else too. More rich means cooler engine but it also means you are leaving a ton of power on the table by doing so in many ways. Tuning is about finding the balance for the application. The reason factory bikes are tuned so lean is emissions. The leaner/hotter the engine runs(to a point) the more efficient it will burn the gas. You really should go find a tuner in your area and have a comparison between factory, OTS(off the shelf, what you used here) and custom tune. Also talk to the tuners about the issues with out of wack AFRs either rich or lean. Both too lean and rich have issues, lean is just more scary cause of higher heat. And there's so much more than just AFRs, that's just 1 part of the tune. Also I do not recommend anyone pickup a custom tune from someone else. These tunes are precise to not just the bike but the fuel and atmosphere it'll be used. An aggressive tune from a east coast person with 93 octane at sea level is going to grenade your bike if you live in Colorado and take it up 8,000ft with 91 octane cause the tuner didn't make the tune for that. While I applaud the sharing, be very careful using custom tunes. Hell, be careful using any tune and be aware of what the tune will do and how to best ride it, bike or car.
@dubzc5895
@dubzc5895 4 жыл бұрын
Slimy Pube will just google it, and blow it up. Lol 'free bike giveaway'
@sethglenn9022
@sethglenn9022 4 жыл бұрын
I would say, while pricy, having an auto tuning kit with a wide band O2 sensor is the way to go if you live or ride in areas with dramatic elevation changes.
@sethglenn9022
@sethglenn9022 4 жыл бұрын
@Johnny Blue You still have to get a base map/tune to give the auto tune target timing and AFRs. It's not a magical do it at home kit.
@Lancaster604
@Lancaster604 4 жыл бұрын
Or just grab an AutoTune that maps the fueling for you on the fly.
@clintonrhodgesii2619
@clintonrhodgesii2619 2 жыл бұрын
TTmore, thoughts on….You bring up some good points! I researched the Yoshimura and Akrapovic offerings for the 2014-2018 CB650F, and went with the R-77 by Yoshimura. Yoshimura R&D answered all of my questions and addressed concerns. Basically, the CO2 sensor and the ECM should be able to make small adjustments for the R-77, but that altitude and heat can come into play, thus recommends a fuel controller to be on the safe side. The full Leo Vince exhaust w/wo stock air cleaner is the PCV fuel map I decided to use which I’m pretty certain is specific for use with my PCFC and 2018 CB650F. Wouldn’t the fuel map include changes to the throttle plates and ignition timing?
@deathtwh2963
@deathtwh2963 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a bigginer set up? Like a tutorial of what gear to buy in 2020. Do like a "all the gear you need for under 1000$ in 2020"
@brennonramsey9183
@brennonramsey9183 4 жыл бұрын
Fortnine has a bunch of videos like that
@NickVetter
@NickVetter 4 жыл бұрын
@@brennonramsey9183 bunch of that gear is years old now too though
@meersonne83
@meersonne83 4 жыл бұрын
Riding this bike for some time now. Don’t feel any power dip. It’s indeed linear without surprise and from 8000 to 12000 the stock version is already crazy. As well I wouldn’t change the exhaust. The stock version looks sooo good and the sound is great without blasting your ears. Otherwise, indeed convenient to be able to try different setups. On my KTM I had a switch installed, after some time I always kept the same setup. On this HONDA there is only one thing you must change right away: the tail! Have fun!
@socialising6037
@socialising6037 3 жыл бұрын
I'm getting a Honda cb650r was worried it will be bit slugish on pulls as I'm coming from a dirt bike want something that accelerates fast
@Cm.enduro
@Cm.enduro 3 жыл бұрын
@@socialising6037 its not as slow feeling as people lead on. stock it pulls really well, especially coming off 1 and 2 cyl bikes myself. the "power dip" is only from 38tq to 34tq. then it jumps to low 40s tq. i have an akra and pc5, its a great bike.
@meersonne83
@meersonne83 3 жыл бұрын
@@socialising6037 It accelerates fast, but it’s not like a single or twin engine. It’s more like a jet using the afterburner :-)
@MultiChimRichalds
@MultiChimRichalds 2 жыл бұрын
@@socialising6037 lol coming from a dirtbike you will shit your pants on a cb650r, be careful until you get used to it..
@socialising6037
@socialising6037 2 жыл бұрын
@@MultiChimRichalds ended up getting an mt07. Haha yh was very skeptical about how fast it would be. My dirt bike is deffo faster to 80 than my mt07 it's a nice thing to ride but I enjoy the lightness off my dirt bike so selling the mt next year for a husky 701 or gunna do a supermoto build.
@asit6947
@asit6947 4 жыл бұрын
More power, as Pumphrey says: MO POWA BABEH!!
@brodycaruso5394
@brodycaruso5394 4 жыл бұрын
A MO POWAH BABEH!!
@Timochat_
@Timochat_ 4 жыл бұрын
Blblblbl GRASS FED BUFF HORSES
@creedhansen8581
@creedhansen8581 4 жыл бұрын
TERKS
@creedhansen8581
@creedhansen8581 4 жыл бұрын
Roll up down up up up and down HEADLIGHTS!!!
@dustinmallett1703
@dustinmallett1703 4 жыл бұрын
Creed Hansen how could you mess it up that much man, POP up, up and down headlights pop up man
@alphaforce6998
@alphaforce6998 4 жыл бұрын
I have a CB650F, which is a great bike and practically identical to the 650R. It's definitely an underrated bike and I have yet to see another one on the road. But besides that, the engine doesn't really have a lot of extra power to unlock over what it comes with stock. One thing you can do to recover power being lost to incomplete combustion is to side-gap the plugs. This is an old school tweak that goes back to the 60s, but it works very well on bikes and if you are using iridium plugs you will not wear them out - whereas the old copper plugs of the 60s would wear out much quicker when side-gapped. Just by doing this you will smooth out the engine throughout the rev range because side-gapping increases the immediate surface area of the electrode exposed to the fuel mixture. The process to do this is simple. You remove the plugs, and you use a hack saw to cut the ground electrode (the one that you would normally bend to adjust the gap) slightly, so that when you view the plug directly from the top down, you can see the positive electrode. This cut needs to be straight, and the edge of the electrode needs to be free of burrs but as sharp of a 90 degree angle as you can get. You then have to adjust the gap using the bottom corner of the negative electrode that you just cut, so that it is 0.030" (the universal gap that works the best for almost all applications) between the edge of the cut electrodes' bottom corner and the top of the positive electrode. If you do this correctly, the spark will not be fully exposed to the fuel mixture, whereas before the negative electrode would obstruct it. The obstruction does interfere with combustion and it reduces the percentage of fuel that can be burnt with each firing of the plug. By side-gapping the plugs, a higher percentage of fuel is burnt, resulting in smoother engine at all RPMs and improved power. This works on any vehicle that uses spark plugs. If you do not want to modify your plugs, Bosch makes "Platinum +2" and "Platinum +4" plugs that are effectively side-gapped from the factory and might fit some bikes; just make sure to verify that the gaps are 0.030".
@TheJPHarvey
@TheJPHarvey 4 жыл бұрын
Buys a Busa then every video for the next month will be "Fixing the XXX's power problem"
@Installerrev
@Installerrev 2 жыл бұрын
this aged really well
@edsoncampos8947
@edsoncampos8947 8 ай бұрын
Just in case that happens AFTER you install the full system. Before that it works perfectly no dips. I'm working my way around it as we speak. I installed an Akra full system this weekend no DB and I felt the dip..
@slowmochlo
@slowmochlo 4 жыл бұрын
Just a quick comment to say keep up the great work. Love your videos and you (as well as some other KZbinrs) motivated me into getting a bike which ive had for a year in April and now I'm in a Motorcycle Club! Hope you have a great day Yammie! ❤️ Love the vids.
@regabernathy6039
@regabernathy6039 4 жыл бұрын
Not only will running too rich change the smell of the exhaust, but removing the cat and installing a new exhaust will change the smell, since there won't be any unburnt combustion gases when you have a cat installed. It's a good thing to install a higher flow air filter when you put on a free flowing exhaust, as your engine is nothing more than an air pump, and the more air that flows through will increase your power. You aren't going to make much more, but it will be noticeable.
@The.JZA.
@The.JZA. 8 ай бұрын
What will it smell like if it's too rich?
@bellerophon9116
@bellerophon9116 9 ай бұрын
Placebo effects in medicine suggest purely that there is a perceived benefit when no objective measurable impact for curing a disease can be scientifically measured and or observed. In the case of motorcycle tuning-if the customer perceives a desireable result of power-however-slight-then satisfaction is achieved. If this tune does nothing more than aid in a more linear power delivery without being significantly more powerful in any meaningful metric-the perceived value proposition is still a net positive.
@oliversutton2266
@oliversutton2266 4 жыл бұрын
That bike is perfect, almost too perfect....
@KiRiTO72987
@KiRiTO72987 4 жыл бұрын
Personally im planning on getting one of these to replace my cb900 when it bites the dust
@ericstorer3469
@ericstorer3469 3 жыл бұрын
Do it! Get one. I just bought this same bike a month ago, put a black widow full exhaust and a PCV, I LOVE IT!!
@xXZomBearXx
@xXZomBearXx 3 жыл бұрын
I got the 2020 one and it's beautiful
@ianm432
@ianm432 4 жыл бұрын
A few things. I'm a light load situation a leaner mixture burns much slower which is why very light load tables have a lot of ignition advance (30-40+ degrees of advance) so the combustion event can finish closer to top dead center of that cylinder. When you lean a cell at light load you can get burble/pops on decel because it's actually a misfire where most of the combustion is trying to happen after the piston is closer bottom dead center. You can increase the intensity of the burble/pops by leaving the fuel where it is and retarding the ignition timing. You can go as far as triggering an ignition event when the cylinder is on the exhaust stroke with the exhaust valve open. You can get some serious flames and bangs that will have the police called because it sounds like gun shots. You can overheat the exhaust valves and damage the exhaust from too much of that. A setting like this is referred to as anti lag for a turbocharger.
@gigamix7394
@gigamix7394 4 жыл бұрын
My second bike by far was the loudest thing I’ve ever heard. Magna 750 V4 straight piped. That thing was absolutely loud all the time. Idle “BWAAAAAAH”, cruising “BWAAAAAAAAAAAAH”, WOT “BWAAAAAAH, BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH, BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH”
@kbeightyseven1783
@kbeightyseven1783 4 жыл бұрын
Running too rich causes oil deterioration, piston rings do not seal 100%, unburnt fuel will pass by the piston rings into the crankcase a dilute the engine oil, which can lead to engine damage, keep an eye on the oil level and smell, This all was a bit of fit and hope for the best, this really should only be done with a wide and to get AFR readings
@darkknight1340
@darkknight1340 4 жыл бұрын
Also watch for the oily smoke that signifies that the oil/petrol mix is heading towards its flash point.
@E30_Eric
@E30_Eric 4 жыл бұрын
Too rich can wash the walls of the cylinder and you can get premature ring failure and gas soaked oil. I've seen this happen on a car and eat the rings pretty quickly.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 4 жыл бұрын
That would be what? AFR's around 8:1? Or worse? Some of these new bikes peak spikes on dynos at 16:1 afr. That's nearly engine-damage territory.
@NickVetter
@NickVetter 4 жыл бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket I'm confused what you are trying to say?
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 4 жыл бұрын
@@NickVetter Air-fuel ratios. Washing down the walls of cylinders would require a LOT of fuel. Similarly, the ignorance that OEM bikes from the Euro-4, Euro-5 era come set very rich from factory. No. They burn very lean because that produces the least amount of EPA-regulated emissions. Lean runs hot. Too lean damages metals.
@NickVetter
@NickVetter 4 жыл бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket yeah I understand just dodnt really know what your point was in the first comment
@angusmichell5663
@angusmichell5663 3 жыл бұрын
@@NickVetter Don’t quote me but I believe it has something to do with micro oil film on the cylinder walls washing off, damaging the rings due to a lack of lubrication.
@lukemiles1711
@lukemiles1711 4 жыл бұрын
great timing guys!! thanks! My CB650R is ordered and coming in a week or two :D
@punkrockdidi
@punkrockdidi 3 жыл бұрын
Hey,i have a question.what do you think,buyback CB650R without a doubt or wait and test drive a Triumph Trident first?
@lukemiles1711
@lukemiles1711 3 жыл бұрын
@@punkrockdidi I prefer the CB for the looks and how it rides. But both are great motorcycles. Just choose the one you like most. You'll love them both.
@saltukkas
@saltukkas 4 жыл бұрын
Too rich fuel mixture will also cause carbon build up in cylinder head. Which means after a while your valves and valve seats will be contaminated causing bad seal and resulting in compression loss. A good advice to always keep your engine running on optimal fuel mixture :)
@MrFurley69
@MrFurley69 4 жыл бұрын
I got a 2018 cb650f for my first bike. Came with the power commander 5 on it. I love it.
@abluequaker5486
@abluequaker5486 Жыл бұрын
Had to do something similar for my 390 Duke because it runs a bit lean by default and it can be a bit jerky. Also auto-adapts to any of the popular mods to the bike (exhaust, air box lid).
@freddysquire6664
@freddysquire6664 Жыл бұрын
To have it less Ritch. Do the airbox mods. More air = better explosion and less unburn gaz. Better economy and more power...
@9999plato
@9999plato 2 жыл бұрын
If the bike has a PAIR valve in the emissions system it could also creating popping noise by injecting fresh air to the exhaust to give lower emissions. My VTX 1800 had/ has this.
@kikoy08
@kikoy08 4 жыл бұрын
In their mind: i mean, what could go wrong? Also them: f@&k it, we spent over 4 hour figuring things out
@pariah206
@pariah206 4 жыл бұрын
"Doin some danger to manifold shit over here fast & furious style".... Hahahahaha
@SammyFender
@SammyFender 4 жыл бұрын
You two have some of the best recorded Bluetooth intercom conversation. Any chance of a video explaining your setup?
@SammyFender
@SammyFender 4 жыл бұрын
Danny War Robots I know that, but if you use a separate mic to record your voice, it won’t pick up the voice from whomever you are talking with. I not really familiar with Cardo to know if you can plug a 3.5 into the cardo to the GoPro or whatever camera you’re using. I know that Sena doesn’t have that capability so you have to make some changes to record everyone
@bandogbone3265
@bandogbone3265 4 жыл бұрын
Your choice of music and the "hands" remarks at the end seem to confirm my suspicion that you are an accomplished fellow pianist. Any truth to that?
@keyziejosh9694
@keyziejosh9694 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@names9530
@names9530 4 жыл бұрын
When you talk with your hands while riding I'm always afraid the cars in front are going to think you are making some kind of rude gestures towards them.
@scottryan492
@scottryan492 3 жыл бұрын
I have been riding for over 30 years on the street and I want that bike! It would be my choice for a second bike.
@dinohuntr851
@dinohuntr851 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been riding for about that long and this is my fifth bike. It is a total real-world motorcycle! Fast, but not stupid fast. Enough power to have fun, but not so much that I get in over my head and lose my drivers license or die.
@Deathstalker986
@Deathstalker986 4 жыл бұрын
Power commander 5 and the autotune. The autotune adjusts your fuel air ratio in the fly lol
@d3tach3d
@d3tach3d 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great Bike. I would argue its the best in its category. It destroys the mt-07 and others in every component, comfort, rideability, suspension and worth the little bit of price difference. It can even go to blows some bigger CC Naked bikes but with the bigger bikes its also obviously rider skill. Honda make a masterpiece with this model. But thats my opinion and of course other people prefer different things out of a bike.
@cookstyle8671
@cookstyle8671 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought this girl yesterday my first bike lol. Gonna drive like a granny probably for the first year but my brother took it for a ride said it was surprisingly fast as Hell 😂😂 now I'm a bit nervous.. just take it easy i guess I'm in no hurry to do whoolies.
@austinrhoades9988
@austinrhoades9988 3 жыл бұрын
Alrighty bois. I wasn't sure if I should get a SV650 or CB650R for my first bike, and after watching numerous videos on this gorgeous gal, you've sold me.
@Phil_Goodman
@Phil_Goodman 3 жыл бұрын
i thought i only "liked" you guys... but then i realized i freaking LOVE YOU guys.
@Rage5225
@Rage5225 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t sweat propping the tank up for simple service stuff like this. The factory service manual tells you to do it in most cases. GSXR manuals say you can do the whole valve adjustment with just a tank propped up. Some GSXR’s even came from the factory with a tank prop stored in the tail section with the tool kit. I can’t speak for kaws or Yamahas since I don’t work at a dealership that sells those.
@johnDukemaster
@johnDukemaster 4 жыл бұрын
My best mods are 20mm lower footpegs and 20 mm taller handlebar....and a tailtidy! And heated grips..and Motogadget glassless barend mirrors
@sunsetoriginals7320
@sunsetoriginals7320 4 жыл бұрын
You guys need to pay more attention to video quality. I found it difficult to see anything you did on the bike because of camera position and focusing.
@NickShelden
@NickShelden 4 жыл бұрын
propping the gas tank up at an angle: I dunno about the CB650R, but that is actually the suggested method for simple maintenance in the Service Manual for my old Katana. That comes from Suzuki. ain't no one complaining about that.
@KiyanushKaranjia
@KiyanushKaranjia 4 жыл бұрын
(old school two strokes that have ridiculous powerbands and can be dialled to an even crazier level with something as simple as an expansion chamber) - *Don't mind me, casually brapping by...*
@matts.996
@matts.996 4 жыл бұрын
Kiyanush Karanjia port matching is our equivalent lol!
@KiyanushKaranjia
@KiyanushKaranjia 4 жыл бұрын
@@matts.996 Hahaha agreed. Also, a proper air filter upgrade - I put a K&N air filter on a small 100cc Suzuki and it goes like the clappers!
@Timochat_
@Timochat_ 4 жыл бұрын
Don't mind me, just being toxic to everything around me... ( Coming from a guy that tuned 2 strokes with my dad )
@matts.996
@matts.996 4 жыл бұрын
Kiyanush Karanjia I’ve got a 66cc motorized bike, I’ve port matched it and sanded the head to increase compression, threw a k&n filter with velocity stack, goes like hell from only 66ccs!
@brucebillb
@brucebillb 4 жыл бұрын
I think this video just made me seriously consider buying this bike
@flip_moto
@flip_moto 4 жыл бұрын
hey fammie doob - better slow down on those twisties - think of the young yams - we don't want to lose you to crazy riding
@mociczyczki
@mociczyczki 2 жыл бұрын
Sad that no dyno include than we can see preciselly where new map is better than old ,stock cb 650 r dont have huge hole on power graph bigest at 6 k rpm but its nothing compare to me last bike cb 500 pc26 🫣 hole in this bike between 5 to 6 k rpm is huuuuge and you can fell this only when you do test on 1 gear from low to high rpm 👌🏻 Dyno also show huge hole there ,this was one of reason why i sell this bike 👌🏻 😁
@sethglenn9022
@sethglenn9022 4 жыл бұрын
Why power commander when you could get the ECU flashed/tuned?
@benson4u215
@benson4u215 4 жыл бұрын
So you can tune it later for when more mods come
@pravesh736
@pravesh736 4 жыл бұрын
@@benson4u215 u can tune a flashed ecu later too
@Scoottoots
@Scoottoots 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think the CB650R ECU can be flashed. I could be wrong of course but what are the odds? ;-)
@sethglenn9022
@sethglenn9022 4 жыл бұрын
@@benson4u215 most ECU flashing companies offer free retunes for as long as you own the bike. You can even get harness that allows you to get the ECU Dyno tuned at a place with a Dyno. It also allows you to set fan temps, control decel cut, remove limiters, enable quickshifters and more.
@IrnMaiden304
@IrnMaiden304 4 жыл бұрын
Was literally exactly what I was thinking, why not just re-flash it and save money, it's not like you can't re-write a tune to flash it to. Ffs you can re-flash the FZ/MT07 ecu and there are a few you can choose too, DSM tuners can use a stock BlackBox ECU and flash it and it has everything a stand-alone ecu will have
@clintonrhodgesii2619
@clintonrhodgesii2619 2 жыл бұрын
The video suggests a rich condition across the low and mid rpm ranges. So my question is, did you guys determine this to be true, and did you go back into the PCV to dial back the fuel mixture? Dynojet has a fuel controller, PCFC, for the CB650F, 2014-2018, that uses the same map tunes as the PCV. I have a 2018 CB650F. I purchased the PCFC, and downloaded the same tune you guys did. I installed a full Yoshimura R-77 which I think is pretty close. One of the features of the fuel controller is being able to dial in/out fuel in 10% increments at each of the rpm ranges. Not installed yet but will soon.
@donavanguevara1806
@donavanguevara1806 4 жыл бұрын
is this a good beginner bike for first timer riders???
@ciprianbuta
@ciprianbuta 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@themarvelousvintage76
@themarvelousvintage76 4 жыл бұрын
Those new bike with o2 sensor if install aftermarket full exhaust you dont really need to install pcv the bike run good without the ECU will adjust automatically thats why there is O2 sensor there........and if you really want more hp just reflash ECU .
@thinkingimpaired5663
@thinkingimpaired5663 3 жыл бұрын
Never fails there's always some guy on a ride that needs to go to the gas station for a fill up of gas.
@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials
@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials 4 жыл бұрын
Trading in my CBR300R for a 2018 leftover CB650R black. Gorgeous, comfortable, fast bike.
@matejjurica9762
@matejjurica9762 6 ай бұрын
can this apply on 35kw version if i change the air filter and air flow to engine ? I want 70kw but in paper 35kw u know :d
@Massproduce201
@Massproduce201 2 ай бұрын
Is there a 650ish bike that doesn’t require the user to fix off the show room floor?
@mr.murphy5529
@mr.murphy5529 4 жыл бұрын
Imma be getting my first bike within the next few weeks .... I got approved waiting for the financing papers to get here to sign em n send em back out
@TimBWig
@TimBWig 4 жыл бұрын
This video demonstrates the worst way to get more power out of that bike. The correct answer is the CB1000R
@arcticelmnt2836
@arcticelmnt2836 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he was just trying not to blow up the motor bc of the exhaust swap.
@austinallen2751
@austinallen2751 2 жыл бұрын
Fireblade gang
@KillerOfTheConcreteJungle
@KillerOfTheConcreteJungle Жыл бұрын
The 650 is actually a great bike. It’s a lower permit level than a 600 in Europe.. and also goes from 40ish hp to 80+ with a derestricted intake, exhaust, and tune
@TimBWig
@TimBWig Жыл бұрын
@@KillerOfTheConcreteJungle you left off the supercharger
@uusiluuri6676
@uusiluuri6676 11 ай бұрын
Only problem is the fact that CB1000R is way uglier than the CB650R and the litre bike is also down on power compared to its competition. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@HudsonMoto
@HudsonMoto 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guys I have a 2018 Honda CBR 650 F I just put the power commander on... Also a k&n air filter and a hotbodies full exhaust system... It doesn't have a map for my set up... Should I just pick any map with an exhaust and a high flow air filter or should I go get it dyno tuned and dialed in?
@randypullman1155
@randypullman1155 4 жыл бұрын
My dudes go triple up! Yam,J,and the steady caressing hand of god! Then Install an A/F logging software or J on the back with the netbook. It should read 11 or 12 at WOT and 14 at full roll. We don't want to guzzle 10mpg. Ride to live live to Busa!
@randypullman1155
@randypullman1155 4 жыл бұрын
Btw one can't not go wide AND tall....wait maybe do a math segment on how tall vs narrow/ wide vs drop clip ons?
@maximpowers1
@maximpowers1 4 жыл бұрын
I have missed so much from your videos (timeline).... but no longer 👍
@narayanacooper8571
@narayanacooper8571 9 ай бұрын
So, with both the CB & CBR 650R having essentially the same engine, IF I got a CBR650R LAMS/A2 Restricted bike & wanted to de-restrict it, could I install a Power Commander V instead of getting the stock ECU Flash Tuned & Dynod? I mean, if the Power Commander bypasses the ECU & inputs its own Tune, then it would stand to reason to my way of thinking that this would be doable, yes? Also, do you have any idea as to whether a pipe like you have on the CB650R in this Video would be Legal in Australia? Like, having a full pipe with no Cat or Muffler/Noize Restriction/Sound Dampening? My personal thought is the noise factor would be a non-issue considering how loud some Harleys can be, or aftermarket car exhausts, etc... my main concern would be the lack of a Catalytic Converter making the bike non-roadworthy in NSW, Aus. ??? Thanks guys!!
@Pepe-ww7to
@Pepe-ww7to 8 ай бұрын
to restrict the bike it is required to change the velocity stacks with some more restricted ones, so in order to de-restrict it you would have to get those back to the non-restricted ones
@GrtSatan
@GrtSatan 4 жыл бұрын
So straightforward any computer science graduate student could grasp it easily.
@johnsonjohnw74
@johnsonjohnw74 4 жыл бұрын
My Harley has a Vison Commander mounted on the handle bars. I can adjust the tune while driving and see, battery voltage, tps, engine temp, a/f ratio, rpms. I have only seen these for harleys. Do they Make it for the Jap bikes, so you can adjust it w/o a laptop.
@anyaforger2021
@anyaforger2021 2 жыл бұрын
Just a personal opinion I think honda wiring n parts placement on this cb650r is better than mt07 I mean mt07 wiring are all over the place
@dcptiv
@dcptiv 4 жыл бұрын
learner version of this bike has a smaller restricted intake. There is no quick way to make the power this engine was meant too without replacing the restricted intake. Most learner bikes are detuned with throttle block but it seems honda went to a little extra effort.
@andynguyen4536
@andynguyen4536 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't had the time to check in the airbox but I've heard replacing the air intake is as easy as taking off the restricted trumpets and put in stock, unrestricted versions.
@majordelays4909
@majordelays4909 2 жыл бұрын
Honda - the swines! 😂
@suryansh67
@suryansh67 4 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy which map are you using on the map because on the website only 5 are mentioned which one did you choose? I have installed mivv mk3 on my bike but couldn't find a map for it so what should be done for it? Should i get a autotune or just use Akrapovic, Arrow and Tbr maps and see how the bike reacts to it?
@linpawzsukul8431
@linpawzsukul8431 4 жыл бұрын
Hey fellas! Thw power commander specific to the CB650r? I only ask because I checked on dynajets website and they dont appear to have it for the 650r.
@rgt_cb650r6
@rgt_cb650r6 4 жыл бұрын
I have the whole explanation further down the comment section. But basically dyno is not making a PCV for the 2019 CB650R. More details in my original comment.
@CM-ne4rb
@CM-ne4rb 4 жыл бұрын
If you check the website now, it says that the PCV for CB650F is compatible with the CB650R
@God1stProductions
@God1stProductions 4 жыл бұрын
You just made a perfect bike, imperfect!
@LeumasKnight
@LeumasKnight 4 жыл бұрын
Have you announced when the next bike giveaway will be? I looked on patreon but could not find a date.
@coyotepanda444
@coyotepanda444 4 жыл бұрын
you should swap in the Busa motor, should bolt right up no problem
@300zxdriver
@300zxdriver 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@firedog9113
@firedog9113 4 жыл бұрын
Cool video Yammie, do you think that power command!er would work on a cbr500r. I dont need the extra power but want the enigine braking to be a little more relaxed, it kinda over brakes when engine braking, almost like you braking kinda hard when it kicks in or any time you off the trottle
@monty-9269
@monty-9269 4 жыл бұрын
If u get the ecu flashed instead of buying a power commander u would be better off cause theres a throttle deceleration cut they can do to most bikes with a ECU flash just find a reputable company and mail ur ecu off explain what you want and they will put the tune on mail your ecu right back and you'll be riding with your new tune within that same month and also cheaper than a power commander in most instances. If u have a exhaust or any mods let them know as they can put on a specific tune for your needs.
@abdullakhan4411
@abdullakhan4411 4 жыл бұрын
Are the maps available free for or do you have to pay extra for each map???
@习近平-m5l
@习近平-m5l 4 жыл бұрын
I have one question I am going to buy a AKr full exhaust for my cbr650, do I need to buy an optional catalytic converter for the full exhaust? I am not planning buy a PCV for my bike, maybe I can just use catalytic converter instead of PCV?? please help
@lornz9495
@lornz9495 4 жыл бұрын
If you would live in europe(Austria) where you can ride in the alps, would you recommend the MT/FZ07 or the Cb650r. I am not sure which bike i want to buy. The price is literally the same on both bikes. Any suggestions?
@kaimelis
@kaimelis 4 жыл бұрын
If i remember correctly lean, not rich mixture gets you pops and cracks from the exhaust. rich does everything else yall discussed bot not the off throttle pops.
@aflacduck2
@aflacduck2 4 жыл бұрын
Lots of ways to get a crackle and pop. It's more like having a richer mixture go through the exhaust followed by a leaner(hotter one) that'll ignite it. This is generally speaking how crackles work. If you're constantly rich, it may not ever get hot enough to crackle or do so rarely. If you're constantly lean, the exhaust should not have enough unburned gas to pop.
@darkknight1340
@darkknight1340 4 жыл бұрын
Having carburettors rather than fuel injection helps with the crackle and pops too.
@arn4000
@arn4000 4 жыл бұрын
Can you compare the remapped CB650R vs the GSX S750?
@davehudson3439
@davehudson3439 4 жыл бұрын
How can you put hundreds into exhaust and commander, and not install a tail tidy?🤔 so weird
@drstimpy1
@drstimpy1 4 жыл бұрын
When I have all the connections apart, I like to dielectric grease them all...
@diamondheat9
@diamondheat9 4 жыл бұрын
That is pretty smart especially on a naked and high humidity locations
@kyleessex6301
@kyleessex6301 2 жыл бұрын
I am having trouble navigating the tunes. Which cb650r tune did you use?
@shaunalt4994
@shaunalt4994 2 жыл бұрын
So actually, these motors make the most power when they are run at their absolute leanest possible fuel mixture, dumping more fuel, does not add power.
@솔직한리뷰어-r8k
@솔직한리뷰어-r8k 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm I would say it is not worth it to spend that much $ to make a little more horse power. This bike is not meant to be a litre sport bike, I think it has more than enough power for what it is. Well, I am getting a zx10r and I am planning on using my cb650r for commuting and riding with my wife.
@crash5811
@crash5811 4 жыл бұрын
Easier way for the tank rather than prop it w a hammer. Get a cheap strap w coated hooks. Run it to the grab bar and to the front of the tank. So much easier 2 work with
@neblolthecarnerd
@neblolthecarnerd 4 жыл бұрын
IMO this is the best looking bike in your garage
@yammienoob
@yammienoob 4 жыл бұрын
It's so pretty but the Sled is bae
@geoffreyjones2000
@geoffreyjones2000 4 жыл бұрын
Everything needs power when you have a Busa... yup
@teambenjamin1
@teambenjamin1 4 жыл бұрын
Had a dip at 4500 rpm on my 94 cb1000. I added a 3° timing advancer... problem solved! Not sure how the timing works on the new bikes, but you should definitely try that too. You’ll have to run 91 octane, but so worth it!
@1darryloflife
@1darryloflife 4 жыл бұрын
Put it on a dyno and maintain a 14:7 AFR through the rev range. I would put Evans nano glycol in the cooling system which means dumping any water based coolant. There is so much you guys have touched on which shows up the crazy state of play that people have with respect to running an engine lean.
@lennycsc
@lennycsc 4 жыл бұрын
Hello ,great work in the Chanel ,want ask u something, dinojet powercommander have a map for leovinci exaust our you tune manually?I have a ixrace mk2 and there no map for that exaust .
@TheMetoG
@TheMetoG 3 жыл бұрын
does the CBR650R has the same power dip problem as the CB650R?
@namir1782
@namir1782 4 жыл бұрын
Doesnt a too rich of a mixture degreases your engine ?
@joaomoreira9750
@joaomoreira9750 4 жыл бұрын
Which model of power powercommander did you use? The one available for the cb650F ?
@mikebaxter567
@mikebaxter567 4 жыл бұрын
Could I do the same thing to my 98 900R? Or is a power commander only for fuel injection?
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 4 жыл бұрын
MT-07 and SV650 with that much throttle twist in the mid-range, would absolutely walk away from the CB. And that's the sort of usability of the twin-cylinder engines in the 650 class. In most real world RPM cases, they have more thrust.
@Timbo1969
@Timbo1969 3 жыл бұрын
Top end the CBR walks away from both
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 3 жыл бұрын
@@Timbo1969 Just takes a while to get there. Torque doesn't take a while and higher torque is higher force, no matter what rpm you're talking about.
@Timbo1969
@Timbo1969 3 жыл бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket there's a race on here where an MT07 tried to race a CB650R from a roll and got walked so there's that
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 3 жыл бұрын
@@Timbo1969 Only when the CB makes more overall power. Which when you overlay the dyno, isn't happening at most RPM.
@Timbo1969
@Timbo1969 3 жыл бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket from a 50mph roll CB walks them both. An FZ6R is a better race for the CB
@CM-ne4rb
@CM-ne4rb 4 жыл бұрын
Wtf? Is this PCV specific for CB650R? Or is this the one for CB650F? I was told by the guy from dynojet that the one for CB650F wont work for the R and that they don't have the one for the R yet 🤔
@oh-no
@oh-no 4 жыл бұрын
Of course not. these guys are f'ing idi0ts. I wouldn't ride any bike they touched or worked on.
@GGozzMontanelas
@GGozzMontanelas 4 жыл бұрын
Have the same question. The engines are very similar so maybe there is no problem.
@CM-ne4rb
@CM-ne4rb 4 жыл бұрын
Gozz i dont know who to believe anymore at this point 😂
@GGozzMontanelas
@GGozzMontanelas 4 жыл бұрын
@@CM-ne4rb tecnically if it fits it sits. What differs is the maps. If you map it yourself or by a tuner it should be OK. This bike is the 2018 cbf. Engine just had minor mechanical changes
@youtubeuser2188
@youtubeuser2188 4 жыл бұрын
Is there even a date to when the giveaway bikes are gunna be given away?
@thuanabingo
@thuanabingo 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I just got a PC5 for this exact bike but I could not find the specific map for the aftermarket exhaust . What I can do for get it tuned correctly ? Please advise. Thanks
@papaduck1000
@papaduck1000 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this
@Cre8tive81
@Cre8tive81 4 жыл бұрын
2:00 Yamster sounds like he knows nothing about how engines work.
@michaelclark3192
@michaelclark3192 4 жыл бұрын
Can't you just flash tune the bike without a piggyback ecu?
@kierenjeanpillay5396
@kierenjeanpillay5396 4 жыл бұрын
I've got the 2017 650F And it's restricted.. would It be the same process?
@maximpowers1
@maximpowers1 4 жыл бұрын
You guys :) The best
@tripdenton7232
@tripdenton7232 4 жыл бұрын
Oh so your a Wildcat fan with all that knowledge lol to this day I've been looking for a shark eating a cheeseburger
@gerasimosawesome4182
@gerasimosawesome4182 4 жыл бұрын
Mo powah baby
@bamcorpgaming5954
@bamcorpgaming5954 4 жыл бұрын
trying to find a power commander or something like it for my year 2000 honda valkyrie and im having trouble, any suggestions?
@barmybrit4491
@barmybrit4491 4 жыл бұрын
So I'm very confused.. I've just been looking on Dynojets website and there isn't a Power Commander that fits the CB650R... I couldn't even find the one that fits the CBR that you mentioned in the video. When I enter the model name, year and so on the CB650R doesn't come up as on option. What's the dealio?
@rgt_cb650r6
@rgt_cb650r6 4 жыл бұрын
Dyno is not releasing a PCV for the 2019 CB650R. My original comment explains it all.
@sebastiancantarelli6594
@sebastiancantarelli6594 2 жыл бұрын
Knoooooooooledge hahaha... I´ll never foget the first time I saw that video.
@thomasthoft8340
@thomasthoft8340 2 жыл бұрын
It's an old video ik. But I really wanna know ahah - Is it necessary to change the fuel map with a slip-on exhaust?
@thomasthoft8340
@thomasthoft8340 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaysunbrady understood, thank u for answering :)
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