Honda CB650R vs Suzuki SV650 (Real World Test Ride!)

[@yammienoob]

What up! Check out the Honda CB650R, Kawasaki Ninja 400, and DRZ-400 I’m giving away FOR FREE: www.yammienoob.co

[@aWardAvs]

Turn up the brightness on the dash. It has a few more notches left from factory. Also I believe it needs a full system, they don’t make a slip on that I know of -not here in America anyway. I went with the akrapovic single and it’s amazing. Still not very loud but pretty good. Supposedly this bike and pipe combo don’t need a map. I haven’t noticed a whole lot of difference in mpg or any loss of power. It’s more responsive for sure. Another thing I did was adjust the play in the throttle. It was already a crazy smooth bike, but with the throttle play adjusted it’s even better. I’m a beginner and this bike has been amazing to ride and learn on. I hope I haven’t spoiled myself too much with how easy this bike is to ride. Love your videos. I’d love to have you on my podcast Far Betterment. I think you have a pretty great story to share. Thank you for doing what you do. Your videos helped me in my search quite a lot. Look up Far Betterment plnk.to/farbetterment lets chat.

[@How2HateYT]

Pretty sure you made a mistake, you were supposed to send it to me..

[@ashishmajhi4119]

Missing the welcome u give.

[@tawas1155]

Yammie Noob can i still win.. But lm in the philippines

[@erikhoskinson1293]

Do I need to purchase anything to win the bike? I’m stuck on an 82 Honda it’s really scary to ride on it doesn’t feel like a stable bike and I can’t afford another payment on anything at the moment but anyways lol I’d be happy to win it

[@izuksammy]

Something to note, my dad had an 06 SV 650 and he put 112k miles on it before he sold it someone else who still rides it. Towards the end it used a little oil, but otherwise he never even had to adjust the valves despite checking them religiously. Great bike.

[@narwhal7642]

LOL how old are you guys, !4 , 16?

[@izuksammy]

@@narwhal7642 I’m 30 or so. Born in the winter time.

[@joeoden5518]

In 2006 I bought an Sv650 for $6000 out the door. At the time I think some magazine referred to it as the best street bike ever made for the real world. I'm not qualified to make such a statement but I certainly loved everything about it. Like you guys the road test guys kept emphasizing that the Trimph and the Honda or whatever had better brakes and suspension etc. I'm thinking "I hope they got something for an extra $3000!". And I still can't get over anyone referring to it as "a beginner bike, good for a wife or girlfriend. It only goes about 125 mph and take 14 seconds to do a quarter mile. Wheelies just fine. Awsome track bike with a race class of it own. I've been riding for 50 years it's plenty fast for me. I know it's not the only nice bike out there. Everyone makes great motorcycles these days. But I can't understand anyone that doesn't appreciate the SV a great ride, especially for the money. Also I found your narrative a bit confusing. Your references to "this one and that one". Had me guessing which one this one was.

[@braveheart0317]

I still think he's a noob.

[@mfbfreak]

@H H Absolutely. 0 to 100km/h in less than 4 seconds. Enough power at low revs to lazily overtake people without downshifting, but also has a powerful top end. They rev to about 11.000, and hit 120km/h in 2nd gear. My 1999 model very rapidly reaches 180km/h, acceleration above that is not that great, but still enough to be overtaken only once or twice on a hour long autobahn ride. Enough torque to be able to put it in 3rd gear and drive away like that (though the clutch doesn't appreciate that). Compared to the Ducati monster 797, the SV is much happier to rev, offering about the same acceleration but feeling faster. In short: quick and nimble, and fast enough unless you wanna bully fast german sedans on the autobahn. The newest model is very chuckable and nimble, the oldest one is just okay in corners. Many people with a 1999 model throw on some new, better shocks.

[@consul6262]

@@mfbfreak Couldn't agree more, I've been riding for nearly 50 years, and ridden a lot of different bikes, but recently I've been riding my daughters 05 SV with the half fairing, and I just love it, got to be one of the best bikes ever produced.

[@brianmck2158]

Back in 2004 did a European tour on the SV1000. Oh, I wish they would bring that bike back!

[@jennyl1959]

bought a SV in 1999 (the S model) had it for 13 years learnt to scratch and ride on the track with it. modified front end and a couple of things (the rectifiers were a problem) since then I had a RGV 250(sold recently) still have a GSX-R 600K8 Kawasaki ZX10R (track bikes ) and a2011 CBR 1000RR for the road , I am just about to buy a new SV again, here in AUS they are $10k . I know I will enjoy riding on public roads a lot more on this baby than on the Blade ,the Blade is awesome but a little bit too much on the street. ( SV is great for wheelies to !!)

[@ericjudd9603]

just rode my 2020 sv650 home yesterday! just hit 50 miles today. love it! honda knows how to make a bike tho and its sweet looking! but for 6200 bucks, I am more than happy with my sv

[@Gsxsmeneer]

congrats, same here 2020 sv with 6000km on it. Nice barkie arrow racetech beneath it!

[@kyle-qw5yx]

Did you buy it brand new, and was 6200 your total OTD price?

[@ericjudd9603]

@@kyle-qw5yx new yes. And it was 6800 after fee’s

[@tkurban]

i wanted to get the cb650r but due to pricing i was like nah, considering sv650 so bad. So how is it? is it a good beginner bike? and whats teh difference between sc 650x and the normal sv650

[@muriaticfpv2328]

I have been riding 30 years and I love my beginner SV. :)

[@Cfiddy17]

Got my first bike a few days ago! 2008 SV650S in red. Been riding just around small back roads for a few days and I'm already addicted.

[@kendotek9414]

Nice! I have an 09 0SV650S, its my 2nd bike. Best 2900 I ever spent. Its gonna be a long time before I need to get 'more bike'.

[@asianpersuazion]

Congrats man! A blue 2008 was my first bike too. I ended up totaling it doing wheelies but I loved it because that bike taught me so much before giving me a reality check. Since then, I've never dropped another bike and I'm on my 3rd one, GSXR 750. The GSXR 750 my favorite to own as a shiny toy but the SV650 was the funniest and quickest to learn on because it is fast but forgiving.

[@mickj493]

Gonna pick up a 99 SV this weekend for my first bike, so excited!

[@JustWrightHD]

How is the throttle? Heard twins can be a bit snappy

[@Cfiddy17]

@@JustWrightHD I no longer have the SV. Now I have another twin. KTM 1290 Super Adventure. They can be a little jumpy in first and second, but nothing to be scared of with good throttle control. The torque is addicting.

[@mrnicktoyou]

I started on a 250, then progressed to a 650, then 750 and finally went to a 1000. Now I’m going back to this 650 category because it’s the best power to weight for motorcycles. A 1000 is too heavy, gets too hot, and is too powerful. And 250cc bikes have no power. These 650cc bikes are perfect and the most fun to ride.

[@huygfc4257]

Amen

[@alan36753]

Same here. My early bikes had extras to increase power and my latest bikes employ electronics to reduce power. 650cc I’m coming home!

[@Fearless154]

Like legit, any modern superbike weighs the same as the sv650 and some even lighter like the superduke. Weight is not the issue on the bike especially when you're riding mostly on the street but I guess the extra power is useless for you. I still own my 2009 gladius but I cannot choose to ride it over my 2017 tuono 1100rr.

[@mr3748]

I actually switched from 125s to riding my fathers ktm 1190 adventure for some time before getting my self a versys 650... For my the weight of the 1190 wasn't an issue (its like 215kg or so) but it's just to powerfull to be driving in town (don't get me wrong, I love All of its 140HP). Also the handling is more for long distance and adventure riding (obviously) rather than for in traffic. However, my 650 (as with any 650), you get a smaller and nimbler bike with power to match. I am actually having just as much fun on my 650 as on my fathers 1190.

[@oporajitoD]

Why not 750?

[@ErzaRosenberg]

The stock SV is a great building platform, mine has a lot of work done and doesn't suffer from the issues mentioned above. Of course they're both pretty cool though.

[@TheOrangeRiff]

20/10 for video review loved the duo setup and casual riding experience. We need more real world tests they are just a blast to watch as a viewer and gives off a great realistic perspective.

[@nathandavis7709]

Yess, second this. I don't really care for stats and numbers that I can just Google myself

[@immortallvulture]

For my first bike I had to decide between these two bikes. Ended up getting a really good deal on an sv650x and absolutely love it.

[@amckay1212]

I’ve had a 2008 SV650 for 6 months now and I love it, It’s a great street bike, has good and useable power but is also pretty good for long distance trips, I’ve ridden it from Los Angeles all the way to Tempe Arizona and back with no problems at all and it wasn’t too uncomfortable. I high recommend it

[@badgerpatt]

I like your guy's "real world view" as far as how each bike feels and looks. Excellent comparison, thanks!! 👍👍

[@ezekieloruven]

The SV650 and the CB650R are both amazing bikes. I don't think you'd be disappointed with either of them as a new rider.

[@hooeetube]

Love my CB650R. 3K miles in, it's hands-down the best bike I've ever owned.

[@dh.tung01]

That CB650R is gorgeous

[@denbeere4277]

Any honda

[@dh.tung01]

denbeere4 I like that thing so much but it’s too expensive here in Vietnam so I gotta wait for the 300R

[@denbeere4277]

@@dh.tung01 yeah i ride a cbr1000rr

[@maggie937]

The new Honda look great with the new headlight

[@-lien8string541]

I honestly thought it was an MV Agusta when he first rolled it on camera and you couldn’t see the exhaust.

[@BeemerArp]

I'm 65 and have been riding for 53 years ... started on dirt. My first street bike was a 1972 Honda CB350 and since then I've had a bunch of different bikes, no HD's. Since 1998 I've been riding BMW RT's since I was doing a lot of long distance touring. I gave up touring a couple years ago, been there ... done that ... next. Bought a BMW G310R, what a BLAST! But the 34hp got boring pretty quick. For the past year I've been searching for a bike to fit in between the R1250RT and the G310R. I was looking for a mid weight naked. I looked at them all Ducati, Triumph, KTM, BMW F900R and all the Japanese bikes. At the Cleveland bike show this past January I decided on buying a Honda CB650R and it's been one of my best bike purchases, ever. I LOVE this bike. I love the characteristics of an I4. I don't need massive torque down low to pop wheelies. The CB650R is an adult bike. This is my end bike. Well, along with my Vespa GTS250 :)

[@geolep1364]

I'm currently in university and saving money to buy the CB650R I just love how it looks and sounds, I dont care if others call it "overpriced" it is a gorgeous bike! You have a good life sir :) enjoy the bike

[@ridehead8771]

Love the fact that they're not a bunch of lunatics speeding like idiots while comparing the bikes. Enjoyed the video very much! 👍👍👍

[@mhordijk0871]

I haven't been on (or in) a Honda, that didn't feel like 'home'. It all just fits.

[@Bellabubbles]

My friend gifted me his 2003 SV650 for me to start riding on. I go for my learners permit on the 1st December. I’m excited to get out there and learn :)

[@tantiwahopak101]

That's almost 2 decade. Does its wheel even spin? 😂

[@Bellabubbles]

Tantiwa Hopak yes it runs perfectly :) he took great care of it

[@001rupes3]

@Yammie Noob This is my first time watching one of your videos in this format, and I *absolutely loved it* from start to finish. Keep it up Yammie.

[@Vraxxyclips]

Got my first bike because you! Thanks for the tips and advice on how to ride and where and when and pretty much all of it!

[@yammienoob]

np my dude

[@hemansx]

The CB650R was the first big bike I ever rode on, and although I did love it, it was way too much for a beginner like me, it pulls like crazy and I'd definitely consider it more of a sport than a naked. I've now switched over to an SV650 and it's just so much more manageable and user-friendly for someone of my skill level. If you're an absolute beginner like I was I'd recommend the SV650 until you gain a little more confidence, then jump onto the CB650R once you've got your confidence and skills down.

[@mdahsenmirza2536]

And here i think that my apache rtr 180 is hard to manage

[@joeschmoe2697]

I’m a complete noob in the motorcycle world, so thanks for the info!

[@WeaselKonig]

@@joeschmoe2697 a complete newb is exactly who should tell you if a bike is friendly for a beginner.

[@joeschmoe2697]

@@WeaselKonig No I’m saying that I’m the noob, and that I am grateful hahaha I see how it could be interpreted wrong though

[@joeschmoe2697]

@@WeaselKonig Updated it👍🏼

[@jimbojonesporfavor]

You guys are really great to watch and appreciate your real-world ride tests! Thanks fellas!

[@2smoulder]

Excellent review guys. Both bikes are good choices, but I’ve wanted the Honda from the first day it was launched. The only negative comments I had were the display in bright sunlight and the rev dip torque, both of which were covered. 👏

[@cuttingedgecool7235]

I really loved how you guys contrasted the differences and similarities of these bikes.

[@chris5k132]

Honda nailed it with their new CB's line up. Absolute gorgeous

[@kirarittberg5088]

Soloman 5k I don't consider having a power band flat spot and being overpriced as "nailing it". They nailed it so well it will probably be out of production soon.. Suzuki has nailed the SV650s for 20 years running which is why it is still around. A modern classic!

[@toofastnobrakes]

Soloman 5k now if only they would remodel the cb500f like the rest of them

[@toofastnobrakes]

@@kirarittberg5088 and still has 20 more peak HP and better quality than every other 650 currently 🙄

[@addicz2]

@@kirarittberg5088 CB is a religion. Remember that

[@theguitarhero898]

@@kirarittberg5088 Suzuki fanboy, much?

[@aaronburela432]

Those bikes plus the mt07 and Kawasaki z650 are all contenders for my first bike! Thanks for the great content that helps me make my decision

[@paintup46]

Aaron Burela I think I want the CB AND the MT. So good in different ways.

[@the_hippykiller22]

My wife owns a CB650R and I'm buying tomorrow a '21 SV650. I owned an '01 and a '16 previously so I know that bike very well and after looking for a ton of bikes to replace my CBF600 as a commuter bike in complement of my Ducati Monster 1100 Evo I decided to try an SV again after 3 years without riding one. I must say I still love that bike dearly and think it's one of the best bikes on the market for the real world period. It handles pretty great, the new calipers make the brakes finally good, and the engine while not as good as the older SVs is miles ahead most other bikes on that segment. Enough torque and power to have fun while being semi reasonable. Honestly it could be my only bike and as much as I love my Monster if I have to go back to only one it'll be the SV. It's fun, reliable, cheap, handles good enough, for someone that rides a lot for work and pleasure like me it's great. That being said the thrill I get on my Ducati is incomparable, the SV is like a boring reasonable Monster.

[@richardlivellara9731]

To: Yammie From: everyone Dude, keep doing what your doing and never stop. You put so much time into this stuff and you deserve so, so much more. Love from Ohio

[@Sh1tstir]

Will also giving more tourqe come in sooner with correct air fule mix

[@stevenfores9164]

Surprisingly a lot of people still hate on Yammie but it is probably because they don't watch him and realise he doesn't ride like a dickhead.

[@standforyourrights]

Hate our riding season tho. Just start to winterize the bike for storage for the year

[@lukec5729]

@@stevenfores9164 watch yammie's s1000rr review from 3 years ago. It's absolutely hilarious how much he has changed.

[@DirtyTaxman]

Hereby I propose we ban the use of words “starter bike”. Thank you.

[@stevegandalf4739]

@@Eledaraumar Yes that's it !!! Adventure bikes are so 2010's, in the next decade everyone will want to ride an Assault Bike.

[@1000sofusernames]

Yeah, think about their performance in car terms and you'd never call them starter vehicles. Imagine saying something that does 60 in 3.5 and 150mph is 'beginner'

[@theriseagainstfan01]

Calling something a starter bike is not saying anything negative about the bike or those who ride it.. They're just saying that the motorcycle is forgiving and will be friendlier to someone who is more likely to make beginner mistakes

[@CornishMotorcycleDiaries]

​@@theriseagainstfan01 No it implies that you must go on to a... and the assumption there is some fire-breathing Ducati or wailing Fireblade. That built-in assumption needs to be challenged. 95BHP is plenty.

[@theriseagainstfan01]

@@CornishMotorcycleDiaries Nobody MUST move on to anything. A bike being being more forgiving for someone less experienced doesn't make it any less of a real motorcycle for someone who does have the experience and skill

[@BoZhaoengineering]

You guys made a nice bike comparison video. Yes, the both have place. V twin characterizes low rev brunt and in line four features high power that accelerates you at high speed riding exhilarating punch at high rev. It really depends on personal preference beside bikes' styling and price.

[@ryanzsx9043]

I’ve been avoiding yammie (and all bike stuff) for a bit but I’m very happy I’m back and ready to get my first bike. Great video

[@fredo3816]

thx Yamster , been waiting for this one !

[@logicfirst7959]

You just help me made up my mind buying honda - great review - thank you again.

[@JRBoedeker]

Well done on the quick "whatchamahoozit" Zach improv!

[@iordeebeat]

To all who point at the SV as a beginner bike: it's not. As the right guy in the video mentions at 2:42 novice drivers gotta be careful with the throttle due to the abundant torque of the V-twin. Just nimbleness and value for money are there for newbies.

[@Spike-rj6ye]

So the SV is notorious for having a bulletproof engine, its one of suzuki's best sellers and as a result has one of the most important attributes for motorcycles, cheaper secondhand parts. One of the most important skills of being a good motorcycle owner is knowing how to fix your bike. Something I've noticed with honda bikes is they deliver 'the feeling', that rush when you twist the wrist, its amazing, however the ones I've ridden in the past have been a little less nimble than say, yamahas. which is a fantastic bike manufacturer. However id stay clear of yamaha, their bikes are so perfectly engineered you dont feel the rush, you can wiggle your hips and the bike wiggles just as easy, if you need to go fast and want to feel like you're going at walking pace, yamahas are for you. Suzukis however, I feel combine these sensations and experiences, they're nimble AND give you that sensation. Which is why I now ride suzuki. I hope to one day own an SV 650 because for me its the ultimate bike, it was the first bike I ever saw and at that point in my life, I had no interest in cars or bikes, anything mechanical, I thought gearheads were stupid, and then the SV looked at me and said; "Hey..." From that point I have been working towards owning one, the sound, the feeling, the look, its perfect to me. Ontop of all that the SV is what happens when you tell an engineer to make a bike as nimble and responsive as possible, this thing will fucking turn on a dime, and don't even get me started on the SV's that were carbureted, the ease of popping a wheel was crazy, turn, straight, mid gear, fuck it get that bad boy up in the air and give the cops a wave. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but for me, I will never get past the SV, it has everything a normal city rider needs: Torque, looks, sound, reliability, and economy.

[@suryakasetty]

Such good way of video making! Honda CB650R is looking really really good.

[@ImplantedMemories]

But it got It's price

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

Completely unrelated, but: I was picking my Triumph up from the shop for services yesterday, and a BIG old boy pulled in on the Harley Livewire. The _ELECTRIC_ Harley. And I rode it. My buddy and I came up, went 'OOOOH, what is that?', which completely surprised him because he's apparently used to be treated like some kind of heretic by the Dealership Beards. He was so stoked someone didn't shit talk about his new ride, he offered me a spin. I gave him my Street Twin keys, he followed me, and I took it for a 5 mile guided ride. Look, I'm not a Harley Guy anymore. Not at all. Not since my Dyna and I got divorced. But...goddammit it was dope. Halfway through he had me change the profile and it was *_LEGIT_* Completely outside of my price point, but I _actually enjoyed the lack of an exhaust note and gears_ Just wind, some sci-fi windup noise and instant gitty-up. I'm not going to ever be a Harley Bro, but I think they may have done something right for once.

[@edman79]

I think the Livewire is a sweet bike. The only issue is the price.

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

@@edman79 No joke. It was awesome, but not $30k of awesome. My Tacoma cost that much. But on the _other_ hand, between my insurance, the retarded fix-it bills of my Dyna, and the cost of gas, I feel if you're going to do the Harley thing, it makes more cost effective sense than buying a $30k Street Glide. Different crowd though. Dude said he gets about 120 miles on 1 charge, which isn't great for touring but fine for town, said he had no issues finding EV chargers at truck stops where he could chill and snack after a couple hours of sore Road Ass. Edit: Sorry, didn't mean to post something off topic when we should be talking about the 650's, but I felt compelled to share it while it was fresh in my mind

[@BobJones20001]

Completely unrelated yes but thanks for the info and thoughts on this curiosity. I'm impressed that Harley are showing a willingness to build more than one style of machine, getting real feedback like yours has value for those who enjoy a range of motorcycles.

[@teslaedison6236]

@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Shoula bought a 1200 sportster. Bulletproof evolution engine . I love mine . Will never sell it. But it's my first Harley

[@lukasztrzebinski3217]

As a fellow enthusiast of the SV650, I completely agree with your sentiments. It's an excellent choice for a first motorcycle, particularly for those of a larger stature. I recently upgraded the front suspension of mine with the AR-25 Axxion Rod Damper Kit, and the improvement in handling and overall ride quality has been remarkable. This motorcycle now feels tailor-made for my needs, and I anticipate enjoying it for many years to come. It's an ideal bike for honing your riding skills over time, offering a good balance of power and agility.

[@jamesbarros950]

you know, it's all about perception, and the SV is definitely a less refined bike than the honda, but I just radically prefer the look, feel and engine of the SV, but then again I'm biased, I've owned 3 of them.

[@God-Knows-I-Dont]

Just look at them pipes. :-)

[@jamesbarros950]

@@God-Knows-I-Dont oh yeah, and NOTHING should have the crap pipes put on by the factory, (excepting the Ninja 650, Street Triple and others where the factory can is hidden under the bike and you never see it anyway)

[@trefd2759]

For a little bit more the SV650S with quarter fairing,just my 2 cents.😊

[@allahthecocksucker2067]

Sv650 is an legendary motorcycle it runs for ever.

[@mfbfreak]

The modern sv650 has a lot of electronic helpers for safety and convenience. Though idk if their traction control system prevents accidental nooners. My local riding school (western euro style) uses them for the full power class of bikes. The old ones are definitely more snappy, which is great fun for experienced riders but not good for beginners who didn't do the euro style extensive training. Quite easy to break traction on cold/wet roads. I have a 1999 one, and i love it to death. Lightning fast acceleration, chill highway behavior, top speed enough for the german autobahn.

[@shmac96]

I think this is the first time I'm seeing your channel! Love this content! Great job on production but just constructive criticism here...little more refinement and smoothness when getting close up on the bike and moving from one part of the bike to the next. Texas is looking warm still! Keep 'em coming! Ride safe! Cheers!

[@b5thomas7]

There is room in KZbin land for Zach & Ari and Yammie & Spite. Love all the content.

[@mrxanthios7045]

The question is: where are these beautiful, scenic, almost empty roads?

[@2Timone7]

The hill country of Texas is massively underrated and a great secret. Shhhhh

[@danielmath9706]

Im always coming back to this and the street triple video cause i´m prospecting or my second bike. Good stuff

[@danielharrisontucker8129]

Looking at these two to purchase in the next two months as my first bike. Great video. 🤙🏻

[@kirarittberg5088]

Daniel Tucker Tough choice, a proven modern classic VTwin (reliable, economical, serviceable and virtually unchanged since 1999) or flavour of the month from Honda. Consider why some models continually get changed or dropped from product lines. Now consider how good an engine has to be to go virtually unchanged over 20 years and still be viable and sought after in today's market. Also consider that the pricing difference is largely because one company paid for the production costs 20 years ago! Tough choices!

[@Motovibes91]

Suzuki SV650 best bang for buck and the best handling. Oh and that v-twin sound😤 For the price of the Honda you can buy a Suzuki GSX-S750😅

[@seeul8rwaynekerr]

Totally agreed. The sv650 I bet will have better fuel economy. I learnt on a hornet variant and far prefer the sv650 engine in terms of delivery low down grunt and handling.

[@bernardjameswilson]

Was hoping they'd update the display to TFT and change the headlight to LED for the 2020 version but they just made new colorways. Still I agree with the best bang for buck in the middleweight naked category. But if you're open minded in regards to brands CF Moto just dropped a 700cc and based on the pictures they released it's a looker.

[@shuttzi9878]

Wouldn't say that since i'm my country CBR650R is only 300$ more expensive than the sv650 and the honda's 4 cylinder engine makese it lasts eons with a great power delivery not even talking about the throttle response which is INSTANT and soooo smooth

[@bernardjameswilson]

@@shuttzi9878 what country is that? Here where I'm from it's over 100k more local money which is around 1900 USD.

[@shuttzi9878]

@@bernardjameswilson Poland

[@MightyMouzMoto]

That CB is so purdy! Top of my second bike choices.

[@mattblackledge9068]

I bought myself my dream bike first. A 1000cc v twin and whilst its been ok i never felt that i was getting the most from it. Mearly 3 years later ive got myself a 919 as well and my riding has improved so much because of it. I think your bang on about the four cylinder 650 being a good first bike. And that honda looks absolutely awesome, especially in the red, black and grey combo.

[@canvasv]

I am in Iran and even if I win the motorcycle I could not have it . :( just so sad not having one and could not buy one with expensive low quality motorcycle prices . i just wish things gets better for everyone

[@orezaian]

agha dammet garm it will get better

[@nickaslanidis6156]

I have that SV650 and I just can't go past the great sound with a nice pipe. Inline 4's do sound nice at higher RPM's but the rumble of the twin is wonderful. In an ideal world, I'd have one of each.

[@1AOR1]

this content is so much better than those generic fact videos!! more bikes and more reviews please!

[@dakotamise2625]

I want to mention, with the horsepower figures, the Honda is ~80 hp to the wheel, the Suzuki is 75 at the crank. The Honda is about 91 so there’s a pretty big horsepower difference there.

[@dakotamise2625]

All of the new cb’s feel amazing, the 300 650 and the 1000. I didn’t care for the way the Mt or sv felt, but the cb is really in a different class. It’s a naked 650 but it’s a very different bike.

[@dakotamise2625]

@ben daulton when you really look at the components used to build the Honda there is a serious difference in quality though, yeah the Honda is pricey for what you get, but it depends on what you value. You can buy an mt09 for the same price, but the suspension and build quality aren’t really comparable. The gsx I haven’t ridden, but I’ve heard that it really doesn’t have much soul to it. The suspension is fine, the engine is pretty good, but it has no personality. And of course owning the Honda, I wouldn’t be able to get off without looking back at it, it’s a beautiful bike and a damn good performer with that suspension setup. When they hit the used market at around 7-7500 they’re gonna be a hell of a value.

[@twotuthebard5694]

Two thumbs up on the Bluetooth communication . Always totally missed that when I was riding with ma boys. We got adjusted to sign language most of the time.

[@hasbeenb4]

Torque vs gear ratios....... All I can say is from my experience of owning a 2016 cb650f, I never lost out off the line vs 650 parallel twins. For an inline 4, the cb650f is surprisingly torquey.

[@kirarittberg5088]

hasbeenb4 Love seeing you 4 cylinder boys burning your clutches for those quick starts. I like hooking up my V twin at low rpm and rolling it on. Never considered my SV 650s to be a drag bike, but they can be quick enough off the line. The smooth refined power delivery from the low end is so satisfying that I doubt I will ever purchase another in line 4 cylinder. After 30 years of R&D the Honda still has the power band flat spot that my 1979 CB650 did, so sad!

[@connormcguire6887]

@@kirarittberg5088umm… slipper clutch…. It’s what it’s designed for.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

19:08 "the same Tokico's since 1999" Maybe in *that* model, but 2019 Suzuki changed them from the 2-piston sliding-pin, to 4 piston opposed, very similar to the MT-07 currently. I quote directly off Suzuki's website specs: "Dual, 4-piston calipers, twin disc, ABS-equipped" 2020 Honda CB650R: msrp $9,199 2020 Kawasaki Z900: msrp $8,999 Chew on THAT for a moment before throwing down for the Honda...

[@maniack56]

This model year came with the old brakes unfortunately, next model year after this one they upgraded the brakes. I shoulve waited lol.

[@RyaNewGame]

Seing people in the comments talk about great wheelies on the SV, aren't you supposed NOT to wheelie an SV because of oil starvation in the front cilinder ? Or just don't do long wheelies ? If this was an issue, do you people think it's still present with the 2016+ models aka 3rd gen ? Not really planning to do wheelies, but they are fun once in a while.

[@coltauto22]

Dang dude you made a whole video! Thanks :)

[@ukvamp]

I'm currently learning in the UK on an SV650 and love it!

[@Troy-z4z]

Picked up a 2017 sv650 today. So far so good.

[@offthewallsurfer1]

How do you like it and how tall are you? I’m interested in the SV650 but I’m 6’3.

[@farmoboy83]

i had a bandit 1200 when test rode a friends ducati 696 and even with 25hp less and less torq, the v2 of the ducati made me smile like a small children with a new bike. i knew i had to get a v2 motorbike but reliable, so sild the bandit and bought a 2005sv650 and still have it. the bike is addictive and the power is so easy to use on ant road and absolutely a hooligan on city and b roads. everyone who loves bikes, please test a v2 like this

[@ifrit35]

I tried the old cb 650 twice and didn't like the secondary vibrations at all. It's the only reason I didn't buy one. I don't understand why so few people talk about this issue. Also, cb650r competes with the gsx-s 750 which is a better bike in my opinion.

[@ifrit35]

@No_Name I dunno it was 2 years ago. I ended up buying a Gsx-s 1000 so it didn't matter in the end

[@ifrit35]

@No_Name It doesn't vibrate much for a 4 cylindre but the engine doesn't like low speeds, it's jittery. Probably has to do with fueling.

[@rubo1964]

Had the 1st gen SV650 and moded the suspension weak point almost all SV650 owners did that but breaks were more then adequate.Never felt they could not stop the bike.

[@jedmunford]

Spite&Yammie are the Zack&Ari you have @ home.

[@Cruiser203]

Went from a Honda inline 4 to a gladius650 this summer, much more usable power

[@MayorMcCheese47]

Man I love my CB919 but damn I would trade it for the new CB650 just by the looks alone

[@Kundalini_Martini]

Finally found the CB650R available in my area.. picking it up Tuesday morning!

[@rm25088]

I had a SV1000S, I now have a TL1000R. All these motors originated from the TLs. Of course the TL1000R has the most power and highest fun factor seeing it was their vtwin race bike. But, all the other forms of the motor are still killer. It is nice to have a 2003 TLR and a 2023 GSX S1000 in the garage. Suzuki for life.

[@SuperGunner09]

2 second in: Nice bikes. 3 seconds in: Holy crap! It's a TB 60 fps revolution shirt!

[@adventuresofasimpleton]

Having ridden a cbr600rr, and as an owner of an sv650s, those two bikes although being standards, are quite different machines like yammie said. The engine configurations have clear differences. The price points are aimed at different rider markets, not to mention the SV has always been a budget middle-weight. Having said that, they’re still both great bikes with SV having one of the best values, and Honda having that premium quality. I think the SV is the better beginner bike though, I wouldn’t recommend a newbie rider to hop on a bike with 4 caliper brakes as they’re probably still learning how to be smooth.

[@ktkace]

The new sv have 4pot calipers...

[@stvns1k952]

I noticed you said the CB is only 5hp more, it's actually 19hp more. The SV is 75 and the CB is 94. I bought a CB 3 weeks ago for my first bike. Finishing getting my license this week (UK) and I cannot wait. I love it and haven't even ridden it. We're doing our license/training on the MT07 and it's a fun bike but I wouldn't trust it a lot if I'm honest.

[@remi277]

You had me at "..has 4 cylinders.."

[@k_alexander7968]

Just bought a 2022 sv650. stock, it definitely leaves a lot to be desired, specifically regarding suspension. other than that its normal things on any stock bike, flash tune, exhaust, bars, levers, rearsets, grips, mirrors, etc. etc. In the end its a fantastic bike and the lineage speaks for itself (except yo, gladius).

[@JoachimBoog]

Yammie: *talking about motorcycles* We: *waiting for the real stuff of the video* Yammie in every video: ‘without further ado’

[@STOP447.]

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[@sanitvr]

Yammie, may or lord and savior Rossi Bless you, your friends and your family!! You and your videos are soooooo fucking good to watch!! A big ty here from Brazil!!!

[@JPHET37]

I like both bikes cb650 definitely sexier bike , but I will go for the SV650, why it’s lower to ground great bike for beginners and enough power to grow on

[@uncle_neb]

"you can go offroad on any bike" i 100% agree.. i go on about 15miles of dirt road on my 1996 honda rebel 125, and this is ROUGH dirt road, more like gravel most of the time, and i make it work. I've only been riding a bit over a month

[@aaronburela432]

18:00 the new kawasaki 250 r enters the chat.

[@mat199622]

Well, from all we heard about it up to now it seems to be a bit more sport oriented than your typical 250-400cc bike. Zxr400 was also a nice low cc 4 cylinder, but it was basically all Sport and it demanded some skill to ride it safely.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

That's ZX-25RR. And it's only got enough torque to pull the skin off rice soup.

[@Totone56]

Actually, they aren't 5hp apart, but 20 ! The SV is 76, the CB is 95. Max torque figures are very similar, though.

[@Sk0lzky]

Being called "A little older" stung not gonna lie

[@supagirl1521]

I just bought a 2020 cb300r and I am in love 😍 if(and that’s a big IF because I feel like this is the perfect bike for me) I ever decide to upgrade, I’m definitely getting the cb650r

[@N3ilCrox]

The CB400SF (it has VTEC) is like the CB650 but its design is like the SV.

[@nismopr1466]

My heart broke when florida was excluded from the giveaway... anyways great review and still love the vids

[@nismopr1466]

@Michael Moretti check the link in the description. Says both New York and Florida are excluded

[@nismopr1466]

@Michael Moretti sadly i do not thats all up to Yammie and his crew

[@Edwardcolton]

Nismo PR14 if I had to guess, it is for legal reasons, maybe giveaways cost them high taxes from those states.

[@The.JZA.]

I haven't ridden a CB650R so I cant talk from experience, but looking at the dyno graphs, it seems that it's power is lower across the rev range, but only by about 600 RPM i.e. if you just ride around with your revs 600 RPM higher than you would say, an MT07, then you will be getting the same amount of power. Makes sense considering that the motor is so smooth and doesn't mind revving. I think it's a really interesting bike and I like it a lot compared to all of the boring inline twins. I owned the LAMS version of the MT07 and now I own the Duke 390. The Duke is a lot more fun to ride. The suspension is so much more dialed and the chassis is terrific. It's just a fun little naked sports bike. The MT07 in comparison was wallowy and felt a lot less sporty. It's one saving grace is the motor but other than that it's a pretty generic bike. The CB650R looks a lot better made. It's a shame Honda don't make the VFR 800 any more. What an awesome bike. I want one.

[@yanierolivera4678]

If you are riding in the city most of the time there is no doubt the SV 650 is the better bike!! I have one. I have also ridden both bikes and yes the Honda feels more premium but when I got back to my SV I really appreciated having the available low end torque.

[@mociczyczki]

True butin drag race cb smoked sv for which she need more rpm but still 👌🏻

[@Ian-bq7gp]

I had a yamaha 600 fazer years ago and it was fast enough on the motorway but light. The Honda is more refined and 80bhp is enough in the real world, cheap to run, service and well made. I had a 900 daytona triumph. Very torquey and I used it for 100 mile round trip to work. It was good on petrol under 5000rpm in top cruising gently but open it up it drank more but those high revs will make them drink 40mpg on fazer. The Honda will be good on petrol, dependable as every day bike for commuting, runs or even touring.

[@BluTrollPro]

9:10 I think this is the issue with the platform having both clip ons & bars, there's obviously compromises that have been made, albeit I think it's infinitely better with clip ons.

[@mastertuhinbaruah9614]

due too corona i cannot go out but i like too see you guys enjoying the road....missing it a lot

[@bhok1971]

You fell for that? Wow hopefully by now you know the real agenda

[@robertmartian4644]

I used to own a Honda 919 it had 110 hp 65 ft lb torque. it was a 2006 or something I sold it and I wish I still had it. It was an absolute beast. However I’ve ridden friends sv650s before and I really love the twin engine a lot more. I really liked how friendlier the bike was than my hornet I could twist the throttle a lot more without being nervous but it still moved nicely. If you’re like me and wanting to buy a new bike but don’t want an absolute monster but still like a little power the sv is perfect. In a couple years I’m going to finance one so as to keep a good credit history.

[@nitrorc4life1]

"Any bike is a off road bike if you try hard enough"....true. I raced a modded cr80 with my yammie xs400 with street tires on a back yard practice track and beat it. Granted I was not fun, but old girl did it. And I was alot younger and reckless then....30+ years ago

[@GearShifter925]

In our INDIA... BEGINNER'S motorcycles is 100cc, 135cc, 150cc to 180cc motorcycles. : 650cc motorcycles are considered as " SUPERBIKES " Categories....!!!!! 😅😅😅 So much DIFFERENCES.. 😱🙄😲 in as a Beginner's motorcycles cc engines in India and foreign countries...!!!!!

[@jeffreybobeck9809]

I would love it if people stopped using the term beginner bike. Each bike fits a particular need and desire, not always related to skill level.

[@Lassavins]

next video: 1200cc beginner bikes

[@johnpan78]

That two cylinder engine sounds like a tractor when 4 cylinder sounds really good specially with an aftermarket exhaust.

[@mat199622]

I wish I could afford the 650r. Although i would personally get the cbr version

[@goku360v]

This video was awesome. SV owner.

[@brandoncostner7437]

I'll never be able to afford the cb650 but i can find used 2017 sv650's as cheap as 4k locally

[@H.Wotton]

What kind of communication system do you guys use? your voices are super clear. love your videos btw!