Fixing the debates: a better way to interrupt

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@ScriptedMatt
@ScriptedMatt 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin algorithm here for comedic relief
@jedcauffield1858
@jedcauffield1858 4 жыл бұрын
yuppppppppp
@notthemanager3221
@notthemanager3221 4 жыл бұрын
That title couldn’t have been better timed
@kg9266
@kg9266 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@halo3rat504
@halo3rat504 4 жыл бұрын
woah matt didn't think I'd find you here, oh yeah if you do see this I was gonna ask you what editing system you use
@PoojaYadav-vu2gn
@PoojaYadav-vu2gn 4 жыл бұрын
I really thought, this video was made this week😂. I was wondering why they're still using previous debate😂
@smilingipad3044
@smilingipad3044 4 жыл бұрын
Well this aged well, didn't it?
@nathanzimbelman6397
@nathanzimbelman6397 4 жыл бұрын
So well
@shuriken2505
@shuriken2505 4 жыл бұрын
aged like milk
@jgsource552
@jgsource552 4 жыл бұрын
Shuriken250 no like wine
@BraydenFilms
@BraydenFilms 4 жыл бұрын
Live audience is gone, atleast the cheering.
@zhkoende2379
@zhkoende2379 4 жыл бұрын
will you just shut up man?
@chloedancer
@chloedancer 8 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with these points especially getting rid of the audience. It's become entertainment rather than addressing the issues
@Soraviel
@Soraviel 8 жыл бұрын
Yup i fully agree.
@tehseensajjad1003
@tehseensajjad1003 8 жыл бұрын
Entertainment is what they're trying do with these debates tho
@GreenyZay
@GreenyZay 8 жыл бұрын
It shouldn't be
@hadriangonzalez607
@hadriangonzalez607 8 жыл бұрын
chloedancer I agree. I understand why they're going for entertainment, but this isn't about obtaining an entertainment gig this is about getting elected to the most important job in the world, it shouldn't be entertainment and yet it caters to people who only read headlines and get their news from Facebook.
@Fleurlean4
@Fleurlean4 8 жыл бұрын
chloedancer My community college had a showing of the debate in campus. The most disgusting thing was one of the debaters saying some phrase to clearly pander to someone, and in my campus, in front of the projector screen, some people would APPLAUD, loud and annoying. Yes, we all know more students should graduate without debt, you clapping isn't going to make it happen, or people realize it's important, they are only trying to get you to nod your head at home. I wanted to say that out loud, but the place was clearly filled with the same idiots these debates are for, so I simply left in shame that I was dragged in as well.
@tommasocappelli7695
@tommasocappelli7695 4 жыл бұрын
1st point: remove the audience from the debates Covid-19: *Now this looks like a job for me*
@livelongnprosper4051
@livelongnprosper4051 4 жыл бұрын
This is a underrated comment
@xXRedyzXx
@xXRedyzXx 4 жыл бұрын
I hope it helps, that'd be at least one good thing out of this
@alphabravo7101
@alphabravo7101 4 жыл бұрын
This will certainly inconvenience one particular candidate.
@BeaverChainsaw
@BeaverChainsaw 4 жыл бұрын
@@alphabravo7101 *cough cough* donald
@BeaverChainsaw
@BeaverChainsaw 4 жыл бұрын
There will be audience of 70 people😔
@IgWannA2
@IgWannA2 8 жыл бұрын
In the UK we have prime ministerial debates but the audience has to keep silent. It makes much more sense that way, otherwise it just feels like you're watching a football and it becomes a contest of who can play to the audience and get the most cheers rather than who can provide the most substantive answer.
@randomguy5990
@randomguy5990 8 жыл бұрын
We have the same rule , no one follows it.
@misterosc
@misterosc 8 жыл бұрын
yeah in America it's like one of those yo momma jokes the one that says the most obnoxious thing gets the cheers
@ryanfinn5544
@ryanfinn5544 8 жыл бұрын
IgWannA2 we also allow every party as well, which helps a lot
@tornagh9200
@tornagh9200 8 жыл бұрын
What's the point of a live audience if they are silent? Why not just ditch the audience altogether then?
@IgWannA2
@IgWannA2 8 жыл бұрын
I think it's symbolic more than anything, as they're supposed to be debating in front of the electorate, not just a faceless TV camera. Also in the UK the audience have the opportunity to ask some questions.
@Tychoxi
@Tychoxi 8 жыл бұрын
As long as you use a "taking turns" model, just mute the mikes.
@NiklasForsman1
@NiklasForsman1 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, but debates are more interesting when its a real conversation. It's harder to ignore a question if you have to answer it directly than if the other candidate still has 2min left to speak and ends with a different question.
@danielgehring7437
@danielgehring7437 8 жыл бұрын
But it's not the point of a debate to be interesting, it's to test the veracity of the opponent's stance.
@NiklasForsman1
@NiklasForsman1 8 жыл бұрын
Daniel Gehring My intention was not to make it sound like I wanted it to be entertaining (as it is now) but interesting in the way that actual important topics would be discussed in a proper manner. I think that just muting the mike wouldn't change the debate enough. Even though it most probably would bring on improvements.
@danielgehring7437
@danielgehring7437 8 жыл бұрын
***** You're right, I misspoke. The point I wanted to get in was that a debate is designed specifically to give each party as much time as they need to respond fully without needing to fear interruption like one might get from a more conversational tone; cutting the mike probably would not answer the bigger problems with the PUSA debates, as you say, but it would legitimize them as an actual debating forum.
@NiklasForsman1
@NiklasForsman1 8 жыл бұрын
Daniel Gehring Maybe the best option would be to have different segments. Some where each participant have a limited non-interupted time to speak and some where they can interrupt, chess clock like.
@robertjenkins6132
@robertjenkins6132 8 жыл бұрын
Shut the mic off when it's not their turn to speak.
@ryanw1359
@ryanw1359 8 жыл бұрын
that's a Fantastic idea!
@obrkenobi1170
@obrkenobi1170 8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@theultimateninja
@theultimateninja 8 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Or put them in clear boxes with clear podiums (in regards to Hillary's podium video)
@AvailableUsernameTed
@AvailableUsernameTed 8 жыл бұрын
.. or modify the voice of the out of turn speaker to a Mickey Mouse or Daffy Duck timber.
@robertjenkins6132
@robertjenkins6132 8 жыл бұрын
truth teller But it wouldn't have stopped Donald from wandering around all over the stage and hanging out creepily in the background of Hillary's shot, which is why I think that maybe an opaque, sound-proof cage should drop down on him when it's Hillary's turn to speak, haha. Pipe2DevNull Haha, I would watch that debate for sure.
@MrCal2648
@MrCal2648 8 жыл бұрын
These all actually sound like good recommendations.
@Arian545
@Arian545 8 жыл бұрын
Definitely, one of the biggest issues that modern politics has is how news channel are trying to double it as entertainment. They want Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton to say dumb or ridiculous stuff, so they can splice them up into small videos and share them online and get add revenue from all the people who didn't watch it on TV.
@davidwebb913
@davidwebb913 4 жыл бұрын
I think Trump misread the video title as "Fixing the debates: interrupt".
@Merino33
@Merino33 4 жыл бұрын
They both did lol
@Leisuremaker
@Leisuremaker 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t everyone 😂 Democrats, Republicans, Independents. They all are rude in those debates. Not tryna give trump an excuse though
@Paul-fp3qn
@Paul-fp3qn 4 жыл бұрын
@@Leisuremaker Independents? In the debates? I wish!
@haiggoh
@haiggoh 8 жыл бұрын
One word: Ratings. Nothing's gonna change because drama, interruptions and audience reactions sell better than a "boring" issue-based debate.
@randomguy5990
@randomguy5990 8 жыл бұрын
*One
@haiggoh
@haiggoh 8 жыл бұрын
yes of course, thank you. I should check for typos before I post
@haiggoh
@haiggoh 8 жыл бұрын
***** They're not doing this for charity or something, it's all about the money. Even if they didn't make one cent on the debates themselves, having record breaking numbers of people watching your channel helps them negotiating higher cost for ads in the future because the channel becomes more relevant to target groups.
@spookyshark632
@spookyshark632 8 жыл бұрын
The government could just make these rules for hosting a debate.
@cromfayer
@cromfayer 8 жыл бұрын
The first minute of the video explains that viewership as a percentage has gone down, contradicting your point.
@johnnycash5684
@johnnycash5684 4 жыл бұрын
just waiting for the people that say "who is here after the 1st Presidential debate?"
@ryanzarmbinski7446
@ryanzarmbinski7446 4 жыл бұрын
Be the change you want to see in the world. Also, me 🙋‍♂️
@officialstevenma
@officialstevenma 4 жыл бұрын
haha, was about to say
@TheTruth-13
@TheTruth-13 4 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE ONE OF THEM, don’t have to wait
@reichsgeneral6448
@reichsgeneral6448 4 жыл бұрын
And im just waiting people to say "me".
@pkj6684
@pkj6684 4 жыл бұрын
@@reichsgeneral6448 you got one above you and below you *me*
@holdmybeer
@holdmybeer 8 жыл бұрын
How about having an actual debate with rules and stuff.
@CaptIronfoundersson
@CaptIronfoundersson 8 жыл бұрын
Or just have a moderator with the balls to actually call them on their interruptions and going over time. Give the moderator the ability to shut off their mics if they don't follow the rules.
@robertjenkins6132
@robertjenkins6132 8 жыл бұрын
If they go overtime then it can be fixed by giving more time to other candidate. I think it's more annoying when the moderator interrupts in an effort to punctiliously enforces the time limits. I do, however, think the moderator should be able to shut off mics when someone keep interrupting.
@CaptIronfoundersson
@CaptIronfoundersson 8 жыл бұрын
Robert Jenkins "Someone"
@robertjenkins6132
@robertjenkins6132 8 жыл бұрын
Owen McCauley Someone = Donald Trump, haha.
@zbzb-ic1sr
@zbzb-ic1sr 8 жыл бұрын
like automatically shutting of the mike after one's turn.
@jamesdonoughe9309
@jamesdonoughe9309 4 жыл бұрын
you know why we're here
@derrezejackel1811
@derrezejackel1811 8 жыл бұрын
i don't think these two children can handle the chess clock format
@xxshevilxx
@xxshevilxx 8 жыл бұрын
I think you're right. It'd most likely turn into them standing there hitting the buttons, with nothing ever actually getting said.
@PraxeoIogy
@PraxeoIogy 8 жыл бұрын
lol true
@TroyBrophy
@TroyBrophy 8 жыл бұрын
Less chess clock, more shock collar. That might do the trick.
@ninja1inblack105
@ninja1inblack105 8 жыл бұрын
just mute there microphones when there time is up.
@ItsIsaan
@ItsIsaan 8 жыл бұрын
exactly
@juliapearlgarvez5138
@juliapearlgarvez5138 4 жыл бұрын
who's here after the worst debate ever?
@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735
@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 4 жыл бұрын
Joe and trump in that debate was almost no different from two brothers pointing fingers at each other who's fault it was to their parents
@juliapearlgarvez5138
@juliapearlgarvez5138 4 жыл бұрын
joe is slightly more mature than trump tho so if they were kids, joe's probably 7 and trump is 2 😆
@itzelmontalvo6645
@itzelmontalvo6645 4 жыл бұрын
And back in 2016 I thought that Hillary and Trump's debate was the worst one
@xexpaguette
@xexpaguette 4 жыл бұрын
@@juliapearlgarvez5138 no, biden is 5 and trump is 2. source: i have a 7 year old brother
@BRBallin1
@BRBallin1 8 жыл бұрын
How about turning off the mic of the other candidate so the one who is speaking cannot be interrupted?
@inkspill3116
@inkspill3116 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's what I though. They could also cut off the sound when the candidate goes over their 2 minutes, so the audience can't hear it, and rendering their ramblings useless.
@BRBallin1
@BRBallin1 8 жыл бұрын
inkspill No more "wrong" from Trump while Hillary is speaking and making her time limit run out and time limit will actually be enforced rather than giving candidates a chance to wrap up with an extra 30 seconds.
@ghmasterjj
@ghmasterjj 8 жыл бұрын
+
@theconqueror1111
@theconqueror1111 8 жыл бұрын
Donald Trump and the Republicans will complain that it will be unfair to them and their bozos who rely on interrupting and name calling to make sure that their opponents can't articulate anything.
@Finnnicus
@Finnnicus 8 жыл бұрын
nice irony dude
@MichaelSelhost
@MichaelSelhost 8 жыл бұрын
It's easy; Give each debater a chance to speak, being harsh with time constraints, and *KEEP THE OTHER DEBATER'S MIC OFF* until the first debater is finished. If the other debater has an interjection, they may press a button which will signal the moderator and guarantee them time to speak, but these interjections are limited to 3 to avoid beating dead horses.
@ghmasterjj
@ghmasterjj 8 жыл бұрын
+
@earlh
@earlh 8 жыл бұрын
They are right next to each other they don't need mic to interrupt. I think these rules sound better.
@timclaus8313
@timclaus8313 8 жыл бұрын
And make sure the moderators shut up and quit interrupting the candidates. No one wants to hear the moderators. You can listen to them any day on whatever networks they work for. If the candidates come across as immature children or are constantly lying, spinning and avoiding the question, the viewers/voters are smart enough to make their own choices.
@MichaelSelhost
@MichaelSelhost 8 жыл бұрын
Erlin Hysenbelliu Well I don't care if they can hear each other, I just don't want them thinking their interruptions matter to us. Although maybe we could separate them with a glass wall so they can only hear through the speaker system haha?
@earlh
@earlh 8 жыл бұрын
Michael or even better, let's replace them with sane, civilized human beings.
@anshgrover3793
@anshgrover3793 8 жыл бұрын
Heres a fantastic idea - can we elect two candidates who actually care about the issues and wish to have a damn debate about how they would differently manage the free world? 2016 is a disaster.
@inkspill3116
@inkspill3116 8 жыл бұрын
"We have true democracy here! You can vote one out of two candidates!"
@Gottenhimfella
@Gottenhimfella 8 жыл бұрын
Indeed. The Parties are a huge problem, and perhaps that reflects the malign influence (compounded by the passage of time) of business interests.
@wingblade6023
@wingblade6023 8 жыл бұрын
We're going to have to wait another 4 years before we get the those canidates.
@treyshaffer
@treyshaffer 8 жыл бұрын
Americans always seem to forget this, but its not like the democrats and the republicans are each repersenting a half of the general population. They are both essentially factions each repersenting different groups of the wealthy business owners, and its always been this way since our nation's conception. America has never been focused on the interest of people directly, we simply choose our aristocracy in hope that it results in a good outcome for everyone.
@Boristien405
@Boristien405 8 жыл бұрын
wing blade - Nope. In 4 years we will get more crappy candidates. People will always find something bad in someone. We have good candidates, but they aren't the republicans and democrats. We need to elect Gary Johnson if we really want our system to change.
@CG-jz9ms
@CG-jz9ms 4 жыл бұрын
Who’s back after Trump Vs Biden
@ozymandias5449
@ozymandias5449 4 жыл бұрын
It got worse
@chadgetjajet7033
@chadgetjajet7033 4 жыл бұрын
This is way too civilized and rational to ever be implemented.
@Borzogo
@Borzogo 4 жыл бұрын
Real Trump: I don't care about the rules. No masks, more interruptions! Vox Trump: Oh, I must press the little button before talking! It's just like chess, so fun! Yeah... not gonna happen.
@chadgetjajet7033
@chadgetjajet7033 4 жыл бұрын
@@Borzogo Trying to get an irrational man like Trump to behave rationally is a pipe dream.
@erayozsaray3526
@erayozsaray3526 4 жыл бұрын
There was a time a stadium full of people were watching 2 men fight to death, or someone being executed in great joy. I think we can dream bigger and better looking at the road we've come.
@kevinh9657
@kevinh9657 4 жыл бұрын
Who’s here after trump kept interrupting Biden.
@chadgetjajet7033
@chadgetjajet7033 4 жыл бұрын
yeah for God's sake, spread the word.
@apieceofhair8449
@apieceofhair8449 4 жыл бұрын
Me. What a mess
@tanakablack5271
@tanakablack5271 4 жыл бұрын
i m in china
@jonathanfrancesco3305
@jonathanfrancesco3305 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the opposite, actually.
@chadgetjajet7033
@chadgetjajet7033 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanfrancesco3305 about spreading the word?
@willtoulan
@willtoulan 8 жыл бұрын
Here's an idea. Instead of having a debate we just snap a pool cue in half and have the candidates fight to the death.
@nobtobthelob2452
@nobtobthelob2452 8 жыл бұрын
then we kill the winner and pick a real candidate
@cheekypasta55
@cheekypasta55 8 жыл бұрын
"Oh and theres only one spot open right now so we're gonna have....*breaks cue stick*.......tryouts.......Make it fast"
@Lobishomem
@Lobishomem 6 жыл бұрын
That’s basically what we have minus the pool cues. Those close ups of scowling faces with background music make CNN the champion of politics as “Professional “ wrestling.
@Lucy-ng7cw
@Lucy-ng7cw 8 жыл бұрын
And yet it will never happen....
@GreenyZay
@GreenyZay 8 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately.
@young7931
@young7931 8 жыл бұрын
Media over power
@young7931
@young7931 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah but without media, how would one get money?
@Lucy-ng7cw
@Lucy-ng7cw 8 жыл бұрын
I feel like every 100 years or so the system needs a complete turn over to fit the changes that have occured
@ThatRcThing
@ThatRcThing 8 жыл бұрын
This needs to be spread around everywhere and fast
@joebroart
@joebroart 8 жыл бұрын
as fast as that 2002 BMW? I don't think so!
@randomcat5262
@randomcat5262 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder why this is recommended today
@bushraptor
@bushraptor 4 жыл бұрын
Removing the audience did not help in 2020 lol
@Borzogo
@Borzogo 4 жыл бұрын
Removing Trump might. 2024 debates will probably be better.
@Merino33
@Merino33 4 жыл бұрын
@@Borzogo covid gone by than nomatter who wins probably fastest with trump because he is pushing a vaccine and biden would make the vaccines start over because it's from trump
@Merino33
@Merino33 4 жыл бұрын
@Lasse Lempäälä please don't listen to anything vox news says
@reallilnasx1459
@reallilnasx1459 4 жыл бұрын
@@Borzogo dont worry covid's already at it. Give it a few weeks
@knguyennguyen5559
@knguyennguyen5559 4 жыл бұрын
@@Merino33 Uhh no, COVID is not developed by the government, but by seperate companies. Also the US isn't the only country that is developing a vaccine dumbo
@delphineee93
@delphineee93 4 жыл бұрын
No audience, muting microphones when it isn’t your turn, and actually talking about issues going on and what your gonna do about it👍🏼
@Finnstreams
@Finnstreams 8 жыл бұрын
This election is like choosing between cancer and plague
@AdamPianodude
@AdamPianodude 8 жыл бұрын
_
@mobsta163
@mobsta163 8 жыл бұрын
IF we're Lucky, we'll just lose a leg
@bbt5981
@bbt5981 8 жыл бұрын
Speedwagon Best waifu if we're not lucky we're going to be ground to a fine powder
@aaronmayo4786
@aaronmayo4786 8 жыл бұрын
Let me introduce you to Gary Johnson--a former Republican governor of a traditionally Democrat state that has since become Libertarian. If that's not enough of a moderate third-party candidate, I don't think anything could sway you.
@inkspill3116
@inkspill3116 8 жыл бұрын
We'll have to see.
@TheBobkat36
@TheBobkat36 8 жыл бұрын
the chess clock format would work if it also cut the mic of the person that is not currently using their time.
@Libertoso
@Libertoso 8 жыл бұрын
Yea it surprises me how this isnt a thing even with the current system
@kevinfang4362
@kevinfang4362 8 жыл бұрын
Scott J Davis also place both candidates behind sound-proof glass boxes so that when they keep talking when their mic is cut off, no one can hear them
@ethanrong9349
@ethanrong9349 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevinfang4362 haha to think we use to live in a time where trump would repect time limits. what has 4 years of trump done to us
@potatogod9737
@potatogod9737 8 жыл бұрын
Aww, so cute. In the thumbnail they're about to kiss.
@Deadpixelator
@Deadpixelator 8 жыл бұрын
Potato God haha
@JATR1X
@JATR1X 8 жыл бұрын
i suppose hillary is like a magnet.
@AtenaHena
@AtenaHena 8 жыл бұрын
the ship has sailed
@nitikafrancis340
@nitikafrancis340 8 жыл бұрын
otp
@abdallaahmed780
@abdallaahmed780 6 жыл бұрын
Omg lol
@lukaivezic
@lukaivezic 8 жыл бұрын
The video is almost 6 minutes long but it has been uploaded for just two minutes yet it already has dislikes.
@rabbit6845
@rabbit6845 8 жыл бұрын
and?
@MegaKoutsou
@MegaKoutsou 8 жыл бұрын
Do the math
@Suedocode
@Suedocode 8 жыл бұрын
To be fair, there's not really that many dislikes (not even 2% by this comment). This happens with every video from most channels in any format. Doesn't make it right, but doesn't make it particularly special imo.
@Bayleyistrying
@Bayleyistrying 8 жыл бұрын
I feel like at the end of the debate each candidate should compliment the other on some part of their performance during the debate. No reason as to why, I think it could be interesting
@Bayleyistrying
@Bayleyistrying 8 жыл бұрын
***** THESE ARE BRILLIANT
@giantmetaldog9153
@giantmetaldog9153 8 жыл бұрын
"Hillary, you deleted those emails very well."
@inkspill3116
@inkspill3116 8 жыл бұрын
"You have great hair"
@charmagne2102
@charmagne2102 8 жыл бұрын
Sarcasm would be rampant everwhere.
@Leigh-ih1ng
@Leigh-ih1ng 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Debates aren't much better in the UK either, all of the same: talking over each other, playing to the audience, trying to create sound bites etc. Politics needs to just grow up in some respects.
@VillSid
@VillSid 8 жыл бұрын
1. This is great I agree 100% to this video. 2. This video is too late should have been before the debates (except if Vox had published a different video with similar recommendations in that case disregard this) 3. Most importantly. How to make this beneficial to somebody who has the power to change that? And of course who has the power to change that? The candidates? If so there should be two intellectuals running for president... Maybe there are other options? 4. I live in Lithuania and we had our independence for 20 years and we do have audience in our debates, but its 10 people per debater (up to 50 total) and if they react twice during the debating they get kicked out. Moderators are professional journalists who use questions and topics provided by experts of their fields. To show what do I mean professional I could show 3 or 5 clips in our last elections if they were was an English version where candidate gets creamed by the moderator asking to follow up or provide proof in numbers. Trust me it was as satisfying to watch as stand up comedy. And I am barging because I very proud however I fully realize that we just haven't had the time to screw this up yet :)
@chefawkes
@chefawkes 4 жыл бұрын
Vox is always ahead of the curve. Best news analysis site.
@linlenny1392
@linlenny1392 4 жыл бұрын
Who’s here after the Biden Trump debate where no one could just shut up?
@ciaranprice7493
@ciaranprice7493 4 жыл бұрын
The Algorithm knows what's up...
@San_Deep2501
@San_Deep2501 4 жыл бұрын
Vox: "Get rid of live audience" Coronavirus: Say no more fam
@sanskaarkulkarni1036
@sanskaarkulkarni1036 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no. This is the US.
@aaryanjoharapurkar6789
@aaryanjoharapurkar6789 4 жыл бұрын
Huh, I wonder why KZbin decided this was a perfect time to put this in my recommendations? Anyone here from the first 2020 debate?
@gerard0529
@gerard0529 4 жыл бұрын
This aged well
@redpenguin5602
@redpenguin5602 3 жыл бұрын
Remember when people thought the 2016 debates were bad before 2020
@stathikatehis154
@stathikatehis154 8 жыл бұрын
I like the chess clock method
@bemisguy777
@bemisguy777 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for putting out consistently high quality content in an age of decaying-quality media!
@raquel8705
@raquel8705 8 жыл бұрын
WE NEED TO PETITION THIS!!!!!!!! Amazing recommendations! AND its not BIASED!
@hornedlobster
@hornedlobster 4 жыл бұрын
This video was ahead of it's time.
@izzy1221
@izzy1221 8 жыл бұрын
Geez. The debating format by the World Schools Debating Championships is more professional then this...
@misterosc
@misterosc 8 жыл бұрын
where I live, there's a live audience but they are not allowed to say anything or cheer
@misterosc
@misterosc 8 жыл бұрын
nope, Spain. The live audience here is chosen, about 50 people, always sat. They are chosen just so there's an equal number of men and women, old and young and all from different status.
@marcelmasque5030
@marcelmasque5030 8 жыл бұрын
No one really watches the debates in Spain, they aren't as big as in the US and I don't think they affect the outcomes of the election very significantly
@edwardliu111
@edwardliu111 8 жыл бұрын
but why even have one?
@misterosc
@misterosc 8 жыл бұрын
Edward Liu so that the politicians don't feel like they are talking to just a camera, kind of adds pressure on them, the audience represent the whole country watching
@jomejamojaime173
@jomejamojaime173 8 жыл бұрын
In my city, we had a debate with the candidates to the municipal election take place in a school. The questions were chosen from suggestions made in the school's Facebook page, and the moderators (all teachers) had time to complement questions and force the candidates back to topic. even though it was not made in a chess clock system, it was very good and very clarifying.
@akinmytua4680
@akinmytua4680 8 жыл бұрын
I love the chess clock idea!
@EdhellenCuar
@EdhellenCuar 4 жыл бұрын
retired judges as moderators would be a dream come true
@charlotte3201
@charlotte3201 4 жыл бұрын
this aged well....
@margotbrady7648
@margotbrady7648 4 жыл бұрын
well there definitely won't be an audience this year
@rohansreeram5374
@rohansreeram5374 4 жыл бұрын
Came looking for this comment lol
@alannair44
@alannair44 4 жыл бұрын
As if that improved things
@palmerpatel6390
@palmerpatel6390 4 жыл бұрын
This aged well.
@coloridodd
@coloridodd 4 жыл бұрын
SO.................4 YEARS LATER NOTHING HAS CHANGES JUST BECOME EVEN WORSE
@ryanw1359
@ryanw1359 8 жыл бұрын
awesome video vox. I feel that Trump and Kaine in a lesser sense had no real accountability to truly back up their interruptions. All they had to do was cut in and then there was doubt in the viewers minds. I believe there should be a time when the other candidates mic is simply off and they can't interrupt each other. Then the other time can be in the chess format where they have the ability to respond, yet not be interrupted.
@rockpooladmirer
@rockpooladmirer 6 жыл бұрын
Ry Dubz I wish Kaine would be president, ngl.
@dickdastardly9209
@dickdastardly9209 8 жыл бұрын
"Kenedy/Nixon debates were great debates" You mean that one that proved that people preferred to vote for the more handsome candidate, even if the other one was more popular before they ever saw either of their faces?
@onethreeify
@onethreeify 8 жыл бұрын
Comparatively they were great. Just because it proved that humans are superficial wannabes doesn't mean that the debates in and of themselves were bad, they were actually very well-mannered and on point.
@shygirllucycoosie7067
@shygirllucycoosie7067 8 жыл бұрын
they weren't made into reality tv with cheering audience that's why they were obviously great. they preferred kennedy cos he looked confident, presidential and remained calm while Nixon was extremely sweaty and nervous. nothing really to do with vanity just how they both presented themselves. it was about politics too.... whereas todays is just about point scoring...
@Gottenhimfella
@Gottenhimfella 8 жыл бұрын
One could make the case that Nixon's limitations were exaggerated by TV, but they were real and deserved to be exposed.
@missybaker1875
@missybaker1875 8 жыл бұрын
Regardless of the TV viewers there were fewer interruptions and they actually discussed issues.
@Hashmir2522
@Hashmir2522 8 жыл бұрын
If that clock were to be in this year's debates, it would be completely smashed at the end of the event.
@Altoids101
@Altoids101 4 жыл бұрын
Getting rid of the audience literally made it worse
@suflo3063
@suflo3063 4 жыл бұрын
This aged well :/
@FarhanAli-xw5fz
@FarhanAli-xw5fz 4 жыл бұрын
The debates are honestly kinda sad these days. A decade ago a person would attack their opponent's policy, but now people are attacking the opponent.
@erikso1233
@erikso1233 4 жыл бұрын
This should’ve played before Tuesday’s debate...
@dloverise
@dloverise 8 жыл бұрын
This model is a great idea. We need to get news out of the debates. This is something everyone should support regardless of your political affiliations.
@xasuchan
@xasuchan 8 жыл бұрын
This is why I agree that a judge or a former judge would be a good moderator. Especially if given a gavel, they have to pay attention to the details and and they can stop the candidates when they start interruting and getting off topic
@Daenym
@Daenym 8 жыл бұрын
Videos like this are what I'm subbed to this channel for.
@B0GlES
@B0GlES 8 жыл бұрын
They should defiantly cut the mic of the non speaking member.
@patwaspatted4972
@patwaspatted4972 8 жыл бұрын
Yes but the problem with that is that nobody will hear the other candidate being rude. The public needs to get a picture of a candidate's personality and if we turn off the mic you wouldn't be able to see if they have good manners or an acceptable temperament.
@garyermann
@garyermann 8 жыл бұрын
That's not too big of a deal: a candidate trying to interrupt in that situation would still be heard through the other candidate's microphone, just not very well. Also, you'd still see them trying to speak.
@patwaspatted4972
@patwaspatted4972 8 жыл бұрын
Gary Ermann Yes I see your point. Touché
@kevinfang4362
@kevinfang4362 8 жыл бұрын
Gary Ermann put candidates in their own sound-proof glass boxes. That way when their mic is cut off, no one can hear them
@coreyham3753
@coreyham3753 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevinfang4362 Yes, now that would work. Tired of the interruptions and disrespectful behavior ....
@attiendzombane
@attiendzombane 4 жыл бұрын
we’re all back here after that debacle last week
@PepinsSpot
@PepinsSpot 8 жыл бұрын
I won't hold my breath for this changes.
@Sasataf
@Sasataf 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see that chess clock model at work...imagine Trump and Biden just spending the whole debate smashing the chess clock to get a word in.
@solkvist8668
@solkvist8668 8 жыл бұрын
Mute button would do wonders
@condapapa
@condapapa 4 жыл бұрын
This aged very well.
@EllaGP22
@EllaGP22 4 жыл бұрын
This is really fitting after this week...
@JuanWayTrips
@JuanWayTrips 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, the 2016 debates look better than the first Biden/Trump debate. At least we reduced the live audience this time around, soooooooo progress?
@drewstaser9726
@drewstaser9726 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. As they say 1 step forward 100 steps back
@DailyRoLord
@DailyRoLord 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, people thought the interrupting was bad back then. They should see the first 2020 debate.
@roachqueen1973
@roachqueen1973 8 жыл бұрын
I like all of these ideas that this lady is suggesting.
@TIOLIOfficial
@TIOLIOfficial Жыл бұрын
I like this. Good video. Especially the new moderators part at 2:46.
@KMA-lb3oc
@KMA-lb3oc 4 жыл бұрын
who is here in 2020 after the debate
@jansenembarrassesherselfon1585
@jansenembarrassesherselfon1585 4 жыл бұрын
Oh how relevant this has become.
@baseball2789
@baseball2789 4 жыл бұрын
Who else got this recommended now lol
@nirvanaokeefe2558
@nirvanaokeefe2558 8 жыл бұрын
how about a 6 month trial period for both candidates and then we can vote XD
@aisacirema7841
@aisacirema7841 8 жыл бұрын
Nirvana O'keefe no
@nirvanaokeefe2558
@nirvanaokeefe2558 8 жыл бұрын
hah
@somedude4938
@somedude4938 8 жыл бұрын
Imagine all the terrible things Trump would do in 6 months that would mess up basically everything...
@zacgalfinakis9195
@zacgalfinakis9195 8 жыл бұрын
Nirvana O'keefe, have each of them manage a simulation, like Europa Universales.
@jaafar5245
@jaafar5245 8 жыл бұрын
Nirvana O'keefe Lul a presidential beta XD
@Teag_Brohman15
@Teag_Brohman15 4 жыл бұрын
just mute one of the microphones when someone else is talking
@FarhanAli-xw5fz
@FarhanAli-xw5fz 4 жыл бұрын
Diss tracks not debates. I have spoken
@EGarrett01
@EGarrett01 8 жыл бұрын
Good suggestions here. I'd also be interested to see the candidates ask each other questions.
@Wince1811
@Wince1811 4 жыл бұрын
How we do it in the Netherlands: - you get your turn and you don’t interrupt the other one in the middle of their argument. sometimes still happens, but: - our moderator always has the power and they are respected by the candidate, also because: - they can shut down the mic, so the candidate can’t go on and on and on. - candidates aren’t allowed to bash the other on a personal level. - we do not see it as our sportsteams and cheer for them with huge commercial stunts. The debate is held in a non-commercial news setting with a smaller audience. - we have fact-checkers. - we have more parties than just two, so it’s even more difficult but we manage, why don’t you? Could be useful this right?
@annepalisoc7225
@annepalisoc7225 4 жыл бұрын
Suggestion #1: No live audience COVID-19: Your wish is my command✨
@TheLiamster
@TheLiamster 4 жыл бұрын
This is still relevant to this day.
@TheLegoBrick
@TheLegoBrick 4 жыл бұрын
In 2016: Get rid of live audiences In 2020: Well that's no problem...thanks corona
@yvettetheefestiveprincess7561
@yvettetheefestiveprincess7561 4 жыл бұрын
This aged surprisingly well for a Vox video
@GotchaJustin
@GotchaJustin 8 жыл бұрын
For the chess clock idea, what stops someone from just immediately hitting the clock once the other person pushes it?
@danielvincentkelley
@danielvincentkelley 8 жыл бұрын
There could be a rule that each hit of the button must be followed by at least 5 seconds of response during which neither button is active to switch the clock. That should be enough time to complete a sentence. The reason that they wouldn't do it, is because unless they have something keen to say, then they're wasting the time they have to say valuable stuff toward getting themselves elected. The chess clock is a count down timer. So they would each have exactly equal time to say their part.
@Arian545
@Arian545 8 жыл бұрын
Or their microphones should be cut off when it is not their time to speak so they can't actually interrupt at al
@Gottenhimfella
@Gottenhimfella 8 жыл бұрын
At the very least, the microphones can be linked to the chess clock so that only one voice can be heard at a time. There would also need to be a minimum time (as +danielvincentkelley suggests) It's an interesting question how any such rules could nevertheless be exploited to gain unfair advantage; I guess at best it would remain an arms race. Perhaps the moderator could override in egregious cases of abuse, like a referee.
@Mlogan11
@Mlogan11 8 жыл бұрын
The chess clock model means only one person will be able to get the last word in on a topic- so the one who uses their time to keep cutting in will run out of time, giving the other person the last word without interruption.
@PoochieCollins
@PoochieCollins 7 жыл бұрын
+JustinBobcat : hitting the button to interrupt the other candidate uses their own time clock, so there's still a cost: the more time you use to interrupt the other candidate, the less you have to respond to the main topics yourself. This of course assumes that mics would in fact be muted when a debater's off the clock.
@electioncenter318
@electioncenter318 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else watching this after the disaster that was the first 2020 Presidential debate?
@anybody2501
@anybody2501 8 жыл бұрын
No audience and chess clock seem like reasonable ideas. Not going to happen tho. The debates are just a TV show.
@lukassnakeman
@lukassnakeman 8 жыл бұрын
I want a debate format like a cross examination of a witness
@bonrind
@bonrind 8 жыл бұрын
Just mute trumps mic when hes not talking. Its simple.
@fluffymassacre2918
@fluffymassacre2918 8 жыл бұрын
pretty much any candiate
@pezpeculiar9557
@pezpeculiar9557 8 жыл бұрын
Then he will complain about how the mic was rigged again. Also, why did you only say Trump? I think it should apply to all candidates if this were to be implemented.
@bonrind
@bonrind 8 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Mesiaa but clinton didnt interrupt him, she waited her turn.
@abed2007
@abed2007 8 жыл бұрын
Still though, might seem a teeny bit biased if they only muted his mic.
@bldwldr
@bldwldr 8 жыл бұрын
She actually did on a few occasions.
@kingjames4053
@kingjames4053 8 жыл бұрын
Also, neutral moderators. The debates are so rigged against Trump
@Lucy-ng7cw
@Lucy-ng7cw 8 жыл бұрын
Lol what?
@elizah9408
@elizah9408 8 жыл бұрын
A lot of establishment republicans hate Trump. The moderator should have no ability to inflict their biased opinions on the debate.
@Dios7518
@Dios7518 8 жыл бұрын
more than a dozen questions for Trump, 2 for hillary.
@PokemonBakuganFreak
@PokemonBakuganFreak 8 жыл бұрын
You can't just say the debates are rigged against Trump and not actually explain why. The world doesn't work like that.
@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274
@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274 8 жыл бұрын
Luli Unwin I would say the same about Hillary, if fact any intelligent rational human should hate both candidates equally. It's choosing between getting hanged or poisoned, they both end up killing you.
@davekent6023
@davekent6023 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe fix the debates by having a moderator that's not stupendously biased?
@peytonharrell5204
@peytonharrell5204 8 жыл бұрын
Dave Kent lol butt hurt right winger
@JoeARedHawk275
@JoeARedHawk275 8 жыл бұрын
Peyton Harrell Lmao, even you know what he's talking about. You know it's biased and that he's not butt hurt.
@rooneytutoring
@rooneytutoring 8 жыл бұрын
The video somewhat proposed selecting better moderators. Specifically making the moderators not journalists. Honestly I think a retired judge sounds like the best way to go on this.
@joachimschoder
@joachimschoder 8 жыл бұрын
And by "biased" he means a registered Republican who doesn't just throw softballs at Trump.
@davekent6023
@davekent6023 8 жыл бұрын
Looks like some people don't want a fair debate. Afraid of something?
@jayk8631
@jayk8631 8 жыл бұрын
PLEASE THIS WOULD BE FANTASTIC
@PikaPetey
@PikaPetey 8 жыл бұрын
needs more pikachus
@jackfitzgerald9619
@jackfitzgerald9619 4 жыл бұрын
The chess clock model is such a good idea. When your clock is off or out, your microphone is muted. Put like a 5 minute maximum period for each candidate and that would work great
@prismarinestars7471
@prismarinestars7471 4 жыл бұрын
They should turn off the other candidate’s microphone when it’s not their turn to talk
@gavinshirey
@gavinshirey 4 жыл бұрын
You predicted the future
@drewstaser9726
@drewstaser9726 4 жыл бұрын
This....how....what......
@applechip6748
@applechip6748 4 жыл бұрын
Don't. Simply, don't interrupt. It's not tolerated at a high school debate, it shouldn't even be attempted at a presidential one.
@musicoruu
@musicoruu 4 жыл бұрын
could’ve told us this a few days ago before the debate
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