Fixing the Melitta Caffeo Barista TS -part 2

[@anjamart3240]

Wonderful! It gave us the courage to fix our machine! Now it works again. So happy with your video. A big thank you

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

You are most welcome. I'm so glad that the videos helped you. after fixing your Machine the coffee always seems to taste a little bit better too ;-)

[@sergiucsosz297]

good evening . please from the bottom of my heart if you can help me. I have a melitta barista, it grinds coffee, but it throws the dry coffee into the waste basket, but no coffee comes out at all, what could it be? thank you!

[@dannygrob]

I have bought a machine with some missing parts, this was helpful for me to see how it's all connected and what I'm missing, thanks!

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

That’s great Danny! If you need any furthur assistance net me know, I can obtain part numbers and exploded diagrams etc as needed :-)

[@dannygrob]

@@JimTheCoffeeGuy Wow an exploded diagram would be great! I can't find the ceramic valve bracket anywhere either, do you have a partnumber?

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

Danny G Message me your contact details and I’ll see what I can dig up on Monday. I’ll also need a model/serial number if you can find it

[@dannygrob]

@@JimTheCoffeeGuy thanks! I tried to mail you but the address on YT is not working. Its the F85/0-101. mail is: [not needed anymored, edit]

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

Just popped you an email Danny. Sorry for the delay!

[@Captck]

Hi...Found your video as I'm getting an 'insert drip tray' fault on mine. When you turn it on, it comes up with that straight away, even though it's in. Repeatedly pulling it out and putting back does nothing either. I found another video where they replaced some resistors on the main circuit board to fix it, which seems a bit extreme to me. I don't suppose you'd know if it would more likely just be a faulty drip tray sensor do you?

[@jaxioneful]

Hi! Thanks for the video. I just bought the Melitta Barista TS smart and noticed that the power button sometimes makes an annoying squeaking noise or spring noise when I press it. Is this something in the construction or is this not normal?

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

Sorry I may have missed your question. I would say this is reasonably normal. It will probably wear in a bit over time. It is a mechanical switch so pretty normal

[@kytarq]

Hope is helps: or this Your problem was leaking multivalve so it wasno milk foam or what?

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

Hi gtgambit, the problem was the multivalve leaking yes. It was simply causing leakage inside the machine every time it was used. Interesting that these parts are individually available, the whole valve cost me about double the part you linked to so I got lucky as the individual parts aren’t available to me in Australia :-(

[@user-sy2mv6my8l]

I have the same ceramic valve in the NIVONA 840, just different lengths of cable. At 11:45 - there are 6 holes in the black part - how to match it with the white part? It fit in 2 positions. Which one is correct?

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

That I can't tell you sorry trial and error may be required I'm sorry. Least yoyve got a 50/50 chance of getting it right

[@robinisathakur]

My machine has an unusual fault where it grinds, starts to extract, pouring out and then there is a sound like a puff or air escaping and then nothing much comes out. It also does the same thing when rinsing. Frothing milk and plain hot water works fine. Have you seen this before? I’d really like to fix it as I love my Melitta Barista TS…😢

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

Hi Robin, this sounds a lot like the overpressure valve activating due to a restriction in the coffee system. One of several potential issues. 1) your coffee grind is too fine 2) overpressure valve is worn out and requires replacement 3) you have a coffee blockage in your system. As a first step, I would suggest removing and manually rinsing/cleaning of the brewer if this has not been performed in a while. Then reinstall brewer and run several coffee system cleans back to back. First time using no tablet, second time with tablet. Alternate tablet/no tablet for 6 cleans total. If your issue continues after this the blockage/restriction may be too severe to clear without manual disassembly and cleaning. Try this and let me know how you go

[@robinisathakur]

@@JimTheCoffeeGuy thanks so much for the incredibly fast response! I will try that now and see how it goes, (once I’ve reconstructed the machine)

[@camielkotte]

Thank you su much. These 2 video's are VERY help full. I have the V1. Will open mine to see if i can spot why it doesnt produce enough coffee fluids, i do hear a hissing sound inside, like a leak. It does make sound pumping, the pump is working and does give tea, but no coffee.

[@marklange443]

Can you please help me? My machine won't turn on. It just says "good evening" and then freezes🤷

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

thats a bit odd. sounds like a cpu error. unplug from the wall for 10 minutes and turn on again. if this dosent work youll want to seek an authorized service center

[@stefanburnett6803]

Great video! Just wondering if you could help me with an issue? My machine has a strange fault with the screen. It turns on ok and even makes a coffee (sometimes) but then the screen goes white. Could you give me any recommendations regarding this? Thanks

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

Oh that's interesting. It could be a loose wiring loom, or an electronic fault. I'd suggest check the wiring looms and if that's no good you'll need to pop it into an authorized service centre I think

[@stefanburnett6803]

@@JimTheCoffeeGuy thanks for your help. I’ll give it a whirl

[@graemepalmer5425]

Hi Jim, great videos. I have the missing tray error, using your video I managed to replace the micro switch but unfortunately I’m still getting the same error, what’s the next thing to check?

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

Thanks man! Glad they are still helpful. Ok, if you are sure the microswitch is functioning correctly and it is contacting/activating when the tray is inserted I would say the next step is to trace the wiring back to the board and confirm it is connected correctly (eg not loose) perhaps you could put a multimeter across it at the board end and check the switch activates correctly. if your problem persists after this you may have an issue with the board and I'd recommend it go in to see a service agent.

[@thomasblockstrand4014]

@@JimTheCoffeeGuy I also bought a new switch how. do you take appart the machine enough to access this?The films I se you already have it appart.My machine is a Kaffe BaristaT

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

@@thomasblockstrand4014 ah, tricky. I haven’t had my one for a couple years now so can’t recall. There is an art to disassembling the caffeo’s tho! I think the top and rear come off first, then the left side second. From there you can access most of the machine but I don’t recall specifically tho. Definitely look through all 3 of my videos as there may be some disassembly/reassembly in there? I’m sorry I can’t remember much as it’s been so long!

[@thomasblockstrand4014]

I also changed switch. Worked for one cup, then same problem. Was about to start over but now I can’t remove the brewing unit. Stuck in open position. Will I have to dismantle the unit?

[@thomasblockstrand4014]

@@JimTheCoffeeGuy found how here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJOqdIeCe6eCrZI

[@jedwards5860]

Excellent video thanks - enabled me to fix my machine, albeit mine was an easier and more accessible fault than this one.

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

Thanks for the comment, I'm glad the videos helped and your machine is back up and running. Viva la coffee!!!

[@jedwards5860]

Hi Jim, fresh (relatively!) from my triumph last time using your instructions, my Melitta Caffeo's now started to make what I can only describe as a groaning and moaning when the brew unit is rotating - either compressing or expelling the puck. The brew unit's clean and lubed. Am I right to suspect the gears/box, do you think?

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

I wouldn't think so as the gearbox is seperate to the brewing unit. Check the coffee puck height, making sure it's not too big as this can cause what you are describing (make sure the coffee flow time is not too fast, and that the coffee grounds are not too coarse) If it is still making the noises after checking this, or if it is particularly noisy even during startup and shutdown when no coffee is inside the brewer, it may be time for a new brew unit. The noise will most probably be the upper piston sealing ring as it moves up and down the brewing chamber cylinder. Good luck on round two 🤞

[@jedwards5860]

@@JimTheCoffeeGuy Thanks. I've just ordered up a new brew unit so will see how that goes - interestingly, the one fitted is a replacement one, judging by the date stamping on it. Worst case is I'll have a spare to swap out when I'm cleaning the machine.

[@jedwards5860]

@@JimTheCoffeeGuy Well, I ordered my new Brew Unit, rinsed, dried & fitted it and guess what - noise is still there, so it's definitely machine-side, not brew-side, iyswim, which was my original instinct. I think I'll run it 'til it expires and put up with the noise, which is really quite loud! It's a s/h machine in the first place, so it owes me nothing anyway, and when it finally dies I'll have two Brew Units and a bunch of other spares for my next machine! As an aside, the BU is often quite difficult to remove nowadays, sometimes meaning I have to take the drip tray out and push it from inside the machine. I've also found the machine to be rather messier than my previous one, with grounds and dampness finding their way to the drive spindle/axle (or whatever it's called - the big cog thing that drives the BU, anyways!) area in particular - I wonder if a less-than-perfect cleaning regime by the original owner has meant that contamination has got into the gear area, and is the source of my problems? Anyhow, the machine's soldiering on, and still making great coffee, so other than the need to wear industrial ear defenders, all's good 😂

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

@@jedwards5860 oh dead, that's not good :-( yeah I'd continue to run it as is. The other thing to check is the quantity of coffee being ground (eg puck height and coarseness of ground coffee) It should already be obvious if it's out as the coffee would be weaker than normal and have a faster flow time. If you find this to be the problem a slight grinder adjustment may be needed, or the blades/grinder may be the culprit. And yes too much coffee being compressed can cause the noises you were describing earlier also. How many cups has yours made? Should be in statistics

[@jedwards5860]

@@JimTheCoffeeGuy I think the settings are all good - I run it about 1/4 away from max fine grind, which is where it was recommended as it seems it can't cope with the max fineness setting. Coffee's fine to my taste, and certainly not lacking flavour. It's relatively youthful in coffees made terms - when we got it, it had just over 3000 'on the clock', and it's now 4250 a year later, so way too early for things to be wearing out, I'd have thought.

[@MatanIluz]

can you tell how can i reales the brewing unit stuck cant get it out which screw i need to open to realese it ?

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

There aren't any screws needed to remove the brew unit. It should just come.out freely by turning the release lever and pulling gently and firmly. Unless the brewer is not in the correct position already. It should be in an upper position, ready to accept fresh grounds into it's chamber

[@pixieboimagic2285]

Jim, I am having an issue with my Melitta milk system. It’s doing the spitting and sputtering every time the milk frothier is used. I have seen you talk about milk flakes in the milk container connectors and have added thoroughly cleaning them with a “straw cleaning brush” to me weekly cleaning routine. I also started leaving the milk tube attached when running the easy clean after each latte. I run both the coffee and milk cleaning system weekly and the descaling process every three months, sooner if the system tells me to. Any ideas on what could be causing my issue?

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

Hmmmm, interesting. It sounds like a restriction somewhere, or alternatively you aren't getting enough steam. Spluttering would indicate milk bring the likely issue. You can test by putting some milk into a cup/glass and putting the milk line directly into it. Then when making hot milk, moving the height of the glass from bench height to level with the outlet. If spluttering is only present when the original container is connected, or when the milk is low to bench you have a restriction. Most likely in the milk frother attached to the machine. You can remove this rubber section from the dispenser outlet and clean it, the milk inlet hole is very small tho. Try this and see how you go?

[@pixieboimagic2285]

@@JimTheCoffeeGuy thanks for the reply. I do use coconut milk but don't think that should cause any issues. if you dont mind I could shoot a video of the milk system and the steam system in operation?

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

@@pixieboimagic2285 sure no worry's. One thing to note if using milks other than normal dairy types is the viscosity. If the coconut milk is a slightly thicker than normal milk, this may be causing some or all of your problem too. You can verify by running a little bit of normal milk through to test if the problem remains. If you think it is the coconut milk causing issues try a few different brands or types ad the viscositys will vary greatly between each version.

[@MrHarvey1968]

I had the same issue Pixie Boi, did you get any where with it? Seems no restriction on the milk container for me.

[@robinisathakur]

It’s the milk you’re using. You will probably notice that this does not occur with cow milk. You need a special ‘barista’ version of the other milks for it to work. I learned this the hard way 😂

[@BlertBoy]

Hi Jim, my TS smart has encountered a system error 14 which wont work bean selector 2, however, bean selector 1 is working. Any ideas, I am waiting on an engineer to give me a call for advice but who knows when they will call

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

Hi, I'm not sure sorry. I haven't heard of that error! Is it under warranty still?

[@BlertBoy]

@@JimTheCoffeeGuy its over a year, so i think not. however, I took the little hood off the middle of the been tray, i think it hides the selector, pushed a few beans around and it appears to be working for the time being.

[@joeprice]

Hi Jim, water has stopped flowing through my Barista TS Smart. I turn the machine on, the tank is full of water, but the water level doesn't go down, and ultimately it ends up with saying fill tank. I think water flow was slowly getting worse, and ultimately has got to the state it is now, with no water flowing at all. It's now stuck on a descaling cycle, as it can't get past the 'fill system' stage. Do you have any suggestions? I've had a look at the drainage valve by unscrewing the panel behind the brew unit, and removed any coffee stuck around the springs, but that is it so far. Any suggestions greatly appreciated!

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

There are many possible failure points. This would require manually following the water flow path and possibly live testing. It could be the vibration pump, scale in thermoblock, blockage in brew system. I would recommend taking it to an authorized repair agent for assessment. Especially if it is under 2 years old (warranty)

[@pf7737]

@@JimTheCoffeeGuy Hi Jim, I have a similar problem, with a machine I can’t return. On switch on I had the problem of it not recognising that it had water. I’ve replaced the outlet Y shape valve which seem to work for a short time. I cleaned and descaled the machine and then made a cup of coffee. I then fitted the water filter. This resulted in that no coffee or water being dispensed. I immediately stripped it apart again to find the pump was extremely hot. My problem now being do I replace the pump which in the UK is quite expensive only to find another problem. Do you any suggestions about why the pump overheated as I can’t find any blockages?

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

@@pf7737 it sounds as if you have a restriction somewhere still. When you added the filter did you run the filter change program? Once the machine is coed down again and you try to run the machine can you hear the vibration pump buzzing away? If you can't the pump may be faulty, or there is a blockage somewhere on the other side of the pump and the high pressure is causing the pp to stall. This one is a trace it forward component by component problem so can be a bit tricky...

[@pf7737]

At the moment it will give hot water and steam but not coffee. There is a coffee block in the coffee grounds container.

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

@@pf7737 ah. Ok! So your pump is fine then. You definately have an issue in the coffee system by sounds of things. If it can pump and heat water correctly, then your system is ok up until at least the ceramic valve (the problem in my videos) this valve directs steam/water from the thermoblock to the milk system, hot water outlet or coffee brewing system. So I would suggest you have a blockage somewhere. Most likely in your brewing unit or just after it.

[@kazmirzleszno]

Hello, I need help. today I replaced the drain valve. I put it all together. I turn on and exprees does not draw water and the message fill up the water tank.

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

Hi lukasz, think we need a bit more detail. What was the initial problem that caused you to replace the drain valve? How did you go about replacing the drain valve? Also as silly as it sounds, make sure the water tank is seated correctly and filled with some water

[@kazmirzleszno]

I replaced the valve and the piston seal. water was pouring out from under the express. and plenty of water in the grounds. I have to check if the float is stuck. the express cannot see the water and there is a problem with the water.

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

@@kazmirzleszno check your new valve is installed correctly and that you haven’t missed anything. Also, to confirm is this the ceramic valve or the drain valve? If it is ok, you need to trace the water leak to its source as it may not be the valve that is faulty. If water is in the grounds container you could have an issue with the brewing unit also.

[@kazmirzleszno]

I found a leak. water is dripping from the ceramic valve

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

There you go! Check out he other comments, I believe there is details for the ceramic valve part numbers from another commenter. Good luck!

[@verayka]

Hello . I have Melita barista TS recently having the following issue, its grinding coffee however doesn't produce coffee only poor water and dry coffee is discharged to tray. What could be the issue. Thanks in advance as I am really stuck.

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

There can be several causes. I need more specific info to help. How old is the machine, what drinks are you trying to make, and where is the water ending up?

[@verayka]

@@JimTheCoffeeGuy Hi. Thanks for responding. Machine is 2 years old. Doesn't matter which type coffee is selected it dispense coffee grounds to the tray and just dirty water flows to the cap. Perhaps worth mentioning that coffee grounds does not come out as a 'pod' as they used just, just dry or semist. Unit has been cleaned throughly with opening machine and making sure that no dirt residual left around the grinder and also brewing system (incl. using lubricant on the brewing system). Any ideas? Many thanks!

[@LewisTcakes]

Do I have the same issue? there always seems to be build up of coffee stains underneath the machine on the bench. If this is something that I need to replace, Where do I get this part?

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

It is possible, but could also be from somewhere else. It would require opening up the machine and identifying where the leak is. Alternatively it may require a visit to your local service agent

[@LewisTcakes]

@@JimTheCoffeeGuy yeah I think I will strip it down take a look. I'm waiting for new seals to replace the snapped one in the brewing unit. I bought it second hand so I am not sure if its running completely correctly. 1200 cofees made when I bought it. There is always fluid in the drip tray after making coffee and I'm not sure if that is normal either.

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

@@LewisTcakes start with the brewing unit seals. It is possibly just leaking from there. If the problem persists after you have fixed that then trace the leak.

[@mariocutajar3833]

I have the melitta varianza and i notice lately that it is not getting coffe by it’s own trough the hatch for grinding . Now i need to push the coffe for the grinding hatch with a fork . Do you met this problem yet ? Thanks anyway

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

Hi, no sorry. I haven’t experienced this. Can you hear the motor/mechanical noise when it doses the beans? If not there may be an issue with the motor or the gears for bean dosing.

[@mariocutajar3833]

@@JimTheCoffeeGuy the motor works properly only i need to push the beens to enter into . Like helping it . I think i should take it to the agent it still under the guarantee . But i wished i could see someone how to open the grinder that i would try fix my self . I hate giving things to someone else and find scratches if you know what i mean . But thanks a lot any way .

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

If under warranty take it in for repair. If you open it yourself you may void the warranty. If worried about scratches photograph all panels when you drop it in and re-check before you leave after it is repaired.

[@mckan6]

Hello, sorry for my église, I use google translate.I am looking for a solution for Barista or for a repair, as the machine asks me to refill the coffee beans while the reservoirs are full. The machine goes through its grinding cycle but cancels the operation when the water flows. How should I go about it?

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

Hi, try unplugging from power for 3 minutes and re starting. If this doesn’t fix the issue you may have a sensor or electronic board failure. This would require service by an authorised repair agent. Let me know how you go!

[@mckan6]

@@JimTheCoffeeGuy Thank you for your answer, I wanted to fix it myself. Always the same error (the coffee grinds but does not flow => it is canceled) I try to unplug ..

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

@@mckan6 if it grinds, it doesn’t sound like a bean hopper or sensor issue. It’s a bit unusual. It sounds more like a brew unit or positioning issue. I’m unsure on this one I’m sorry.

[@FrankleTankle01]

Hi, How did you get the cop cover off?

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

Hi, it’s been a while since I did this but I believe there are 4 small plastic clips located around the top of the lid. I have a manual now, I will try and find a way to upload it later today

[@FrankleTankle01]

@@JimTheCoffeeGuy great, thank you so much. I’ve found the clips but I cannot find a way to detach the top cover at the front (I.e. behind the silver trim).

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

@@FrankleTankle01 nothing to detach at front. The rear lifts up, slide it back and it should be free