ok no bait comments on this one cause fridge worked real hard on it
@Nutella.4 жыл бұрын
very poggers
@draco_shifty4 жыл бұрын
Don’t mind me I just watched fridge explain revenge
@lorddem16594 жыл бұрын
Kudos Freeze well structured and very informational.
@fkkfreeze4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping :D
@Infinitee4 жыл бұрын
Ubi should place a link to this video on the home screen at this point, because this is a video that everyone needs to see. Very informational and straight to the point, thanks for this video Freeze
@fkkfreeze4 жыл бұрын
Thank you infinite
@joshkershaw45753 жыл бұрын
Ubi should just link freezes YT channel instead of having their training feature
@Blackwolf-ud5je4 жыл бұрын
One extra small info : If two people fight who both have revenge, GB immunity beats out GBs ignoring normal GB vulnerability rules, meaning that if you are in revenge, you cannot GB through attacks of an opponent who is also in revenge.
@MXAntian4 жыл бұрын
So, it's easier for hero with lower HP pool to fill their revenge bar, and faster for the revenge to drain for them. Is it safe to assume that every hero gain revenge at the same rate in the same condition, but heroes with lower HP pool simply has a shorter revenge meter? Thus it take less revenge juice to fill their bar. Instead of you said that they gain more revenge from the same attack? ((x+120)/7.7)-((x+140)/9.2)=0 is solvable, thus revenge capacity could be some multiplier times base hp - some number. Just my thought, mathematically it works out.
@keenengierhart39514 жыл бұрын
Nerd
@bonefat214 жыл бұрын
I'm almost positive this is how it works. Having more HP does not change the raw number of 'revenge points' you gain per attack, rather having more HP means you have a larger bar, and therefore more 'revenge points' are needed to fill it. In game, all bars are the same size, which is why you see proportionally less of the visual bar fill up on a high HP hero.
@VryTox4 жыл бұрын
Yep this was what I was thinking while watching the video, seems more likely to be the case
@amadeodante2 жыл бұрын
x=-17.33333333333…
@soul34514 жыл бұрын
Based Freeze. Time to share that as much as possible, thank you for your work, gamer!
@fkkfreeze4 жыл бұрын
cheers mojo :D
@Dredguno3 жыл бұрын
really wish the timers and tags were shown in game, even if it's just for yourself. Revenge is such a pivotal mechanic in this game that it deserves to be visible.
@spicysalad3013 Жыл бұрын
Knowing some players they wouldn't pay attention if the numbers were bigger than their enemy and still find a way to not take responsibility
@EldynvanDijk4 жыл бұрын
I thought I knew how it worked, but I learned already more halfway through this video than I thought I was going to learn.
@jcloudy85084 жыл бұрын
Freeze is like that one science teacher left at school who isnt there because of the job anymore, he just likes getting people to understand things
@Mattman_904 жыл бұрын
At this point Ubi should just have your channel link on For Honor's main menu. Excellent work and thank you. The format for tags was incredibly helpful.
@crusadercarlos23454 жыл бұрын
I can finally show my cave man teammates how this system works. Thanks man
@damummy37234 жыл бұрын
Honestly the idea of revenge popping instantly sounds like a good idea as it removes the scenario of "But I pressed the button!?!", it would fix revenge holding AND you could focus more on the actual gank rather than having a less to fight that has to hover over the revenge button.
@spicysalad3013 Жыл бұрын
Would also remove the embarrassment of accidentally emoting
@thelionofjudah531811 ай бұрын
It would also be more balanced as some people don't press revenge instantly and like to hold it off to give scary pressure to the opposing team.
@Daddydeathv24 жыл бұрын
Finally i can show this yo my friends that play. After what.. 4 years? I understood it very well but still learned a lot from this video. Now i can bless my new friends with this video. Thanks Freeze
@EmptyTenementSpirit4 жыл бұрын
Very glad to finally have concrete video examples on this. I can only hope the community listens to the advice it gives, please god.
@xsorakazamax75224 жыл бұрын
doesnt always work. its suppose to be like this but im pretty sure youve seen the 1v4s where people are constantly attacking and you got a guy parrying up to 5x and the revenge doesn't raise. there will be bugs in a game but its just too consistent here.
@EmptyTenementSpirit4 жыл бұрын
@@xsorakazamax7522 Pretty sure that doesn't happen.
@thedogguy21372 жыл бұрын
@@EmptyTenementSpirit you haven’t played for honor have you
@EmptyTenementSpirit2 жыл бұрын
@@thedogguy2137 I've played it for the entire time the game has been out, and to this day, I am still disappointed in the people who play this game.
@ianrazz87804 жыл бұрын
Amazing vid, mister fridge
@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii61494 жыл бұрын
Huh, so that's how it works. A bit more complex than I thought. Great video Freeze, thank you a lot for the information.
@hanticleer13724 жыл бұрын
One small addition to the super armor section. Nuxia's traps are still vulnerable to all forms of interruption.
@casualchaos1074 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I had no idea that the revenge system was so elaborate. Thank you for this
@bllitss4 жыл бұрын
I posted a reddit post about how revenge should go down after about ten seconds of holding, and most people complained that this would make revenge incredibly weak, I argued and argued, but this is reddit so no winning that one. Revenge holding is a problem especially in team fights.
@spookytimescaryvideos43953 жыл бұрын
dont be ganking trash then
@bllitss3 жыл бұрын
@@spookytimescaryvideos4395 brezhor what?
@motivatedguy41024 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this guide. Now I can gank effectively and not scream, "Where is my Revenge?", when I dont get it in an antigank.
@art10994 жыл бұрын
The only thing i didn’t really know was that when your opponents have equal or more tags they don’t feed. I knew everything else from previous freeze videos anyway though, so, great job!
@Waltarwhiet4 жыл бұрын
Damn, I never thought such a long video can come out of this subject. You've outdone yourself freeze, thanks for your effort!
@peytongibbs21714 жыл бұрын
*Chef's Kiss* This is God's work you're doin Freezer.
@LtsMaestro4 жыл бұрын
I haven't played since warmonger release, thanks for the refresher on this so I don't tilt my mates when returning
@calamari30644 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, Warmonger is good now and rather easy to face against if you know your stuff
@JDT9793 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I get mad at revenge "not working", then I rewatch this video and I get sad again because it was just me being bad. Jokes aside, I do actually watch the video somewhat regularly, it's incredibly helpful.
@judgeharrell464 жыл бұрын
8:57 when she says she’s just playing for honor with the guys
@joaodiniz34813 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure shaman can handle 4 ༼ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ༽
@Zayl10164 жыл бұрын
That tag system was explained really thoroughly and does explain a few rage times I had where I was wondering where my revenge was at. Thanks for the vid!
@SgtBearPatrol4 жыл бұрын
This is incredible. By far the best video you've ever made. I've been playing since launch, and, while I know enough to not throw random heavies in ganks, there was so much more that I didn't know. Thanks for this. I hope it will help the general population, especially in general MM.
@rorytulip93434 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck this is some high-effort/high-quality educational content! Good job man!
@bentowww14654 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Mr. Below 0°
@sc39614 жыл бұрын
YEeeeeesss! Finally! Good on you Freeze! I liked and am already subbed. Ok, now to watch the video ^^
@monsalai4 жыл бұрын
Ive always considered myself very in-tune with metering revenge gain and knowing when somebody has it, and even I learned quite a bit! Thats what we like to see boys, good job freeze
@mongrelshadow144 жыл бұрын
I was informed a few months ago that the same amount of tags prevents revenge gain. I didn't think to extrapolate that to more than just two tags. So this is great to know. Overall amazing video. Though I still worry that people will think revenge needs buffs because they occasionally get interrupted or guard broken because they forget things like recoveries still exist in revenge.
@animugril21663 жыл бұрын
The effort put into this video is astonishing.
@PedroOliveira-ro3mw4 жыл бұрын
2 things I want 1. An option that autopops revenge when you get while low on health 2. Everyone who gave you revenge gets that nuxia feat where they cant roll away when you pop it
@Tsurumaking4 жыл бұрын
This has been one of your best videos ! I honestly never understood why revenge was not activating when team gancs were happening. The tag system is definitely not my fave, managing an invisible tag system based upon opponents tags seems absurd
@jamilsalman83214 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful i did not know anything about the tag system andni always wondered why my revenge was always at a sliver
@ScrubxxLord4 жыл бұрын
Saw what the video was about and liked it about 3 seconds in. Also I know you mentioned revenge throw can be interrupted via bash/offensive feat, I've noticed that interaction also applies to the entirety of the revenge guard-break where it can be interrupted via bash/feat, so just to make sure it's known, if you are in revenge while in a ledge position DON'T guard-break a bash as it will still knock you back, throw a regular attack instead so you'll super armor through it.
@rickynonays21944 жыл бұрын
It’s kind of amazing that You gotta go out of your way to learn the ins and outs of one of the games main mechanics..
@reelgesh513 жыл бұрын
Tbf rainbow six seige is like that too Uvisoft just has a knack for not giving a tutorial or explanation
@alexumitsuu32374 жыл бұрын
The revenge graphics you made has me proud. Your effort should not go unnoticed mr fridge
@tiocroc48144 жыл бұрын
Very good video. Very informative. I honestly think this is the best and most important video ever made by this channel. My amount of rage will probably decrease by like 50% while playing dominion. This video will make the game much more fun and healthy for me since I will understand it better. Thank you very much for this video, very very helpful.
@tiocroc48144 жыл бұрын
I previously thought that if there were two people locked on me, and one of them attack me, my revenge bar would be filled. As many times it was not filled at all, I got pissed and thought that the game was broken. Now I understand, I will stop complaining and start playing more strategically.
@la_garde_sombre4 жыл бұрын
@Freeze Thanks mate !! incredible job you have done !! Many hours of work here !! Again thank you for explaining revenge in deep detail ! Stay safe mate !!
@TheBananaminge4 жыл бұрын
Does the whole ‘holding revenge by locking onto heroes’ thing work when locking into non-hero characters such as officers, guardian and commander in breach?
@brunocostaling29884 жыл бұрын
Yes, tested by accident it today (I am certain it does with officers, but idk about the others)
@nyarlathotep97454 жыл бұрын
Yes any unit that you can manually lock on to either that be an opponent handled by a real person or AI(enemy bots, officers, commanders, guardians) allows you to sustain your revenge bar.
@mlowd57534 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU MR FREEZE I was getting so tired of streamers telling the player base "oH wHy DoEsN't AnYoNe KnOw hOw rEVENge WorkS" NOW I KNOW
@pastorlul23844 жыл бұрын
I was just trying to figure this out. Thanks.
@atlasfishmo4 жыл бұрын
Very valuable information and very much needed to say the least
@grimm85284 жыл бұрын
That was WAAAAAAYYYYYYYY more complicated than ii thought
@naitodesu65644 жыл бұрын
Imagine working hard on a video to inform the community and be called toxic and killing the game
@vittorio17274 жыл бұрын
only because he plays strong heroes he gets shit on
@naitodesu65644 жыл бұрын
@@vittorio1727 so every knight main is toxic and killing the game
@youswallow114 жыл бұрын
@@vittorio1727 Yeah just ignore the fact he's the only youtuber that publish these kinds of videos
@vittorio17274 жыл бұрын
@@youswallow11 yeah he plays conq and shugo so his points are invalid and people should not take him seriously
@tkberzerker36054 жыл бұрын
@@vittorio1727 if you're joking, this is hilarious, if not, you have no idea what you're talking about
@EJAPhyrex4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Been waiting on this video for a while and it was worth it. Thanks a lot my dude.
@endscreenguy8260 Жыл бұрын
No idea whos the fridge man but thank you very much, very useful I've been looking for the answers for too long
@UnPokemon4 жыл бұрын
Question about Revenge holding, you said players needs to be locked on a player, does it work if you lock onto an Officer, Commander or Guardian in Breach?
@theforknut24154 жыл бұрын
yes
@theforknut24154 жыл бұрын
as long as you are locked on something
@UnPokemon4 жыл бұрын
@@theforknut2415 Gotcha, thanks
@nelsonrupiza77894 жыл бұрын
I kinda get what they were trying to do with the tag system but I can't help but feel that it can be easily exploited.
@Lion_of_Sparta4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, and that anti gank with kensei was actually pretty good. I have a video idea i thought you could make, if you wish of course. Its about jormungandr, explaining why hes unhealthy, why he isnt op, what needs to be done and changed for the hero. Its just a thought.
@Forkontheleft4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed work freeze
@m_hall4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video freeze. @4:02 was a little confusing so let me get this straight. If your enemy still has at least 1 tag less than you, you may still not get revenge if he had multiple tags on him already, because in reality all tags needs to expire before you are able to receive revenge? What about this scenario: 1. Opponent has 3 tags. You have 3 tags 2. 1 of the tags expires for the opponent, bringing him to 2 tags. 3. He hits you, you still do not gain revenge. 4. Another one of the tags for your opponent expires, bringing him to 1 tag. Based on what freeze is saying, if the opponent hit you, you still would not get revenge until the last tag expired. However, what if another teammates hit the opponent, adding another tag? Now the opponent has 2 tags, and you have 3. Does that reset things so that if you were hit by the opponent would start gaining revenge again, or does that just delay the resetting of your opponent's tags so that you can actually gain revenge?? This is quite compilated. I'm also curious what would happen if you were the one to hit the opponent, bringing him to 2 tags when you had 3.
@bleach_meds5994 жыл бұрын
When I still played I had a teammate die in a 2v2, and when the JJ executed him, he tossed his dead body at his own teammate, a BP. That BP proceeded to GET REVENGE in a 2v1 situation. While I know that many people misunderstood the tag system and it’s untold fundamental complexity by the developers, I think it’s fair to say that the system either needs some minor adjustments, or the tag system needs to be switched out for a proximity-based structure. They already have potential coding for this type of system, with proximity being a factor for some feats in the game. The tag system, requiring consistent waiting to lose tags in ganks, encourages a slower paced gameplay than if proximity was used to consider revenge gain for a player.
@onionyx65064 жыл бұрын
Thank you now I'll stop getting so salty over revenge because I can see where I went wrong etc!
@advancednoob47744 жыл бұрын
The perfect "how to revenge" video *does* exist.
@BigFizzy.-4 жыл бұрын
Great vid man, appreciate all the work you put in 👍
@LeRoyt974 жыл бұрын
Not sure if this has been answered yet. Does Centurion's kick still work against enemies with revenge? Last time I played I always wondered why his worked and no one else's did.
@ozzi23553 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Thumbs up. One thing I was always curious about: does Gear Score affect the amount of revenge gained? Since you did not mention it, I guess it's not a thing, but for me it certainly feels that way.
@h.d87264 жыл бұрын
Problem with not being able to hold ur revenge infinitely is ppl running away so ur forced to waste ur revenge on nothing. I know those that do that usually roll away once u pop revenge but now theyll do it before u even do that so u wont even get the benefit of the auto parry
@danielhines3662 жыл бұрын
Thanks my man. Very helpful.
@CptHalbsteif4 жыл бұрын
When being impaled by warmonger, you are (or used to idk if it's still in the game) able to still get attacked, gain full damage but the impale still goes on plus the blood damage after hitting a wall. Had that happen to me once or twice already and wanted to know if you could maybe check it out
@franciscoavic99652 жыл бұрын
Thanks great vid. Didn't know about the tags. Pretty obvious that revenge holding should be taken off. As well as being able to build revenge while 1v1. One question though, if you feint an attack does that still put a tag on your enemy?
@fkkfreeze2 жыл бұрын
No, the attack needs to physically connect to add a tag
@mrsmiley04924 жыл бұрын
Hey freeze can you do a video on the role per character class? Yes you can play who you want and how ever you want but I believe if you have a good time with communication and know their role in their team i feel are most likely to win in a 4v4 like dom or breach
@AsianSadge4 жыл бұрын
The problem is role is not dependent on character class. Class means nothing outside of renown gain
@GodsHeart-ej9ti4 жыл бұрын
One thing I would like to see tested on revenge is removing the “auto parry” feature on activation and replace it with a small AoE knockdown so you can use activation more offensively or defensively
@phoenixfoxx83824 жыл бұрын
Nice video bro, really helpful.
@GuitarNoob1014 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree that revenge should only be held without popping for some 10-15 seconds or so.
@samreid53974 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna enjoy rewatching this next time I get ganked ahaha
@AlbertTurek4 жыл бұрын
One thing I think that wasn't touched upon and explained. If say, Shinobi gains health though the head hunter perk after four executions - which I know is unlikely in the absolute state that he is right now, does he still generate revenge at the same rate? Or does the extra health affect his revenge meter gain?
@zacharytoneilchannel3842 жыл бұрын
No, he said that it goes by your base health. Anything that adds to your health, doesn't change the revenge total or what it takes to get revenge
@nuke18634 жыл бұрын
Excellent and very detailed guide! I already knew some Things about tags and that you need 2 tags at least to get revenge but im sure i need to look Up this video some times again especially for that Part around 3:30 with more Players than a 2v2. Atm i really cant See myself having an overview about so many tags on more than 3 players, but time will tell and maybe i get better! Keep your good content coming! Edit: however i have a question about unlocked attack: If i Hit someone without being locked onto him, do i add a tag and/or even Feed revenge? Sorry If you already showed that and i missed it
@OXhuls4 жыл бұрын
wow. awesome video. thx. i really learned sth and know how to better myelf
@Thomas-vw7zj4 жыл бұрын
It works as intended--> the intended functionality allows for unfair ganks and does not reward good defensive reads in outnumbered scenarios. Even in revenge gankers run away and if you attack one the others get free attacks and occasional gbs and stuns. Great video for an unnecessary complicated and undertuned mechanic. If I duel against a dude and every time I get a good punish (Heavy or long animation punishes) the second guy can punish me hard and just wait for 5 seconds for the next attack to feed no revenge! Revenge multipliers should take in account proximity of allies and enemies
@d-skullgaming6964 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with your last sentence.
@idieb4uwin5174 жыл бұрын
The tag system is bull shit.. Also he didnt mention nothing about sbmm or mmr fucking with those numbers so that. People with less skill can have the revenge edge in the match an pretty much get revenge from someone breathing you
@AsianSadge4 жыл бұрын
@@idieb4uwin517 revenge is not affected by mmr what
@idieb4uwin5174 жыл бұрын
@@AsianSadge you Dont know that.. Because the mmr in this game is determined by a bunch of unknown factors that ubi doesn't specifically tell us or explain very well.. Plus sbmm is in every game.. This game is no different.. And in my experience playing.. Revenge, minions, hitboxes, walls, renown, stamina, bleed damage, phantom blocks, n disappearing indicators are if these things tend to happen more so against the better player in the lobby while the lower skilled played can turn his brain half off. N keep making mistakes with the least amount of repercussions.. I cant make a single mistake in a GANK but yet the same enemies can make mutilpe mistakes against me but I wont have revenge in just two hits and a block.. Revenge definitely doesn't work the same for everyone.. An mmr is the reason for that..
@AsianSadge4 жыл бұрын
@@idieb4uwin517 therefore because we don’t know if it can be proven false it must be true? That’s a fallacy dude. You’re gonna need more than personal experience to back up a claim that bold
@eggymart60354 жыл бұрын
gonna link this to every mm gamer, thanks
@dovahkiin_brasil4 жыл бұрын
Berserk second feat: I like yours words magic man.
@SanctuaryGhost4 жыл бұрын
You should do a vid on disappearing indicators
@willk75083 жыл бұрын
Thank you freeze very cool
@WhatInTarnation1234 жыл бұрын
Very useful, thanks
@thekleanupkrew83814 жыл бұрын
What a saint you are
@moetrashu4 жыл бұрын
This is a nice guide and all, but can it explain how the enemy blocks two attacks and gets revenge while I’ll have to block/parry at least ten attacks and still not have revenge?
@fkkfreeze4 жыл бұрын
yes, it explains all that
@moetrashu4 жыл бұрын
@@fkkfreeze I WAS JUST KIDDING-
@emperorbunnybun75134 жыл бұрын
I can say I dont know it was time bassed, I though it was: -Have more tags then your opponents. -The enemy have to be with in a few meters from you to able to gain revenge.
@vicedeep4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Freeze
@lulu76024 жыл бұрын
Now I can try to do less stupid things when I gank. It's very helpful!! 同時也感謝中文字幕!
@Zackathor3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if its time for an updated version of this video? I'm not an expert on how revenge works but i feel like theres a handful of things they've changed since then. I'm wondering if the feed revenge ability for specific characters is still a thing? I feel like they removed it since then but I'm not sure. And also does holding revenge still work the same? Like 5 seconds out of guard and you lose it or do you have it until you use or die now?
@fkkfreeze3 жыл бұрын
They removed the bar in the bottom left and the feat Revenge Attacks. The rest is still the same.
@el_slender4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps 2020 isnt so bad anymore
@dracanisobsidian16134 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this video now only if my friend group wasnt so fucking arrogant about watching informative videos maybe I would have a better time on for honor.
@thedungeondweller4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Vid ❤️
@darth_virtus4 жыл бұрын
I'm sharing this with all people I play with
@leinadlink3 жыл бұрын
Can I get confirmation this video is still relevant today? Did they change anything since then?
@DreadnButter2 жыл бұрын
Freeze confirmed in a recent vid that this one is still accurate, in case you weren't already aware.
@peregrinus5244 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@uncanny-v4 жыл бұрын
This feels kind of unnecessarily complicated. Would this not promote some jerk highlander to sprint around and try to push you? Or a warden to just charge full bashes? Or a raider to carry you? Or a kensei kick? Etc. I get that this allows someone else to be present, and not attacking; but wouldn’t it make sense to be aoe anyway? You’re outnumbered but they HAVE to hit you in order for the game to register you’re out numbered.
@crimsonstardrago97074 жыл бұрын
Tag system is my problem. Especially when you fight 2 people in a situation where one bash attacks you while the other does nothing unless you attack.
@wesleygaray26664 жыл бұрын
Yeah the tags go out a little to quick and I had a cent trying to hit me and my teammate when we where already in a 2v2 and he got revenge when neither of us touched him or locked into him
@aiellamori3 жыл бұрын
Well that's proper ganking, you can't get mad at that
@joshkershaw45753 жыл бұрын
Little late to watching this video, but maybe the revenge bar is the same as your health bar? So if revenge uses a point system for each attack, and lower the health the quicker you get revenge, so shinobis 110 health, means he needs 110 points to gain revenge?
@theroguenob4 жыл бұрын
freeze do you know if valk will get a buff any time soon? She is really underrated but she just does so little damage compared to other characters with the same light/heavy characteristics.
@PinkPrior4 жыл бұрын
Ok so you know how people run from people with revenge until it runs out shouldn’t it have a speed boost so people don’t just run away
@fkkfreeze4 жыл бұрын
should maybe give heroes actual chase... how about that
@PinkPrior4 жыл бұрын
@@fkkfreeze anything as long as people don’t just simple run away for 8 seconds and I can’t even blame them as it’s probably the best thing to do
@catwiffhat42744 жыл бұрын
poggers video mr refrigerator
@masonoxley58232 жыл бұрын
Does the AEGIS perk affect the REVENGE shield amount?
@rkenshin3643 жыл бұрын
Revenge gain difference from health pools is not big enough and means playing lower health characters is just hurting yourself
@DoctorPastapus3 жыл бұрын
Does superior attack on valk and so on count as a tag on you, your opponent or both? 😊 And can one opponent apply two tags to you or does second attack just reset your tag? 😊