For Honor - Forgotten Feats

[@meatbeaticus6849]

The only thing that is consistent in For Honor is how inconsistent it is.

[@strikeforce1500]

I think one forgotten feat is Rally Call of Tiandi (literally Ubi just let the thing broken to this day). One thing that I still don't understand was the nerf to protected revive lol

[@cantreadyourname9505]

Ubisoft when they see Smoke bomb, Rock steady, Fire flask and Spear storm: *I sleep* Ubisoft when they see an underpowered forgotten feat that 0.5% of players use: “So you have choosen... death”

[@cherrycola4476]

@@cantreadyourname9505 Smoke bomb isnt OP.

[@MyLungsStillBurn]

@@cherrycola4476 its pretty broken imo, if someone is even half-competent they can use it to do so many things: run away, spam unblockables... the list goes on. its a strong area denial that has sooooooooooo many options, plus it blinds you while youre in it, so thats a thing

[@bruhbroham8760]

You do realize that nobody is being forced to remain inside the smoke and suffer the whole duration

[@MiddleEastBeastz]

@@bruhbroham8760 true but as they said, the person activating it can be somewhat competent and use it correctly so you won’t always have the chance to run away while you’re being spammed and hit externally by other people fighting in the smoke

[@taytay7596]

Imagine new unique perks for each character that would be great

[@kytownsend8295]

Knowing how well they balance things it would probably break the game. They’d make a warmommy perk that brings back corruption on minions or something like that.

[@samfish2550]

I wouldn't mind if they did that on Nuxia's.... Poor Nuxia, you had it good for one season atleast......

[@darthwalrus4740]

They can't properly balance the game now, adding more would make it even more of a mess. :P

[@GussethSuggeth]

Im curious to see what they would add for each character though

[@thesaviorofsouls5210]

We dont even get unique executions anymore, so dont even start.

[@itsniko9561]

Something crazy? Centurion’s March is so forgotten, the major N forgot they had voicelines for jorm Big sad

[@trickmaster32]

Wait really? I honestly havent ever seen someone run it on jorm because his other feats are just that much better. Wouldnt never known it had voicelines. Cent just grunts unfortunately

[@mrvalhalla6577]

@@trickmaster32 i use it when I know based on who my team picked ill be stuck controlling mid

[@zephyrumalsend]

Completely forgotten, even by Freeze: Take Down

[@wider7998]

What's that ?

[@gilgameszh]

Its hella good

[@killtacular4444]

@@wider7998 Enemies fall down when you throw them while the feat is active.

[@Ben-cw2ey]

Because rock steady exists, not really tho, I’m sure it’s overshadowed by another op feat

[@Midorimusha]

@@Ben-cw2ey It’s a tier 3 on so it contests with second wind

[@IanKeesee]

Welp i guess im one of the few Tiandis that use sacrifice. I use it on my "Medic" build for him on defense in Breach. Which is Feats: Come at Me Sacrifice Protected Revive Last Laugh/MB Perks: Feline Agility Radiant Rebound Rising Dawn.

[@lordfenix17]

I use sacrifice on occasion mostly for a stamina refresh for my teammates

[@agonizedcash5653]

Isn’t it funny that ubi brought all the hero damage down, but not feats, minions, pikemen, and officers?

[@TheAusar]

Pikemen need to be nerfed. I won't touch breach again until pikemen health and damage is reduced to reflect the CCC.

[@MeisterSchwabbo]

No joke, pikemen are way to strong. As a shugoki or a lawbringer they can bring me down to 1 bar of health while clearing 1 pikemen wave

[@TheAusar]

@@MeisterSchwabbo If you stand directly where they spawn, you can kill a good chunk of them, while they are running. But that is assuming you don't get contested by other heroes and you still take for ever to kill them.

[@kaijuslayer3334]

@@TheAusar I don’t see why we need a nerf. If we’re talking about things from a even slightly realistic point of view. You shouldn’t be able to just kill a dozen men with no risk. Dominion is already kind of absurd on how a single man can kill like 30 dudes with like no trouble.

[@TheAusar]

@@kaijuslayer3334 because it is bad for the gamemode, that's why.

[@louaiz4814]

You forget that smoke bomb make you heal inside it if you already captured the zone

[@thegamech1cken566]

Actually, I think if the enemy is standing inside your smoke bomb, they don't count towards capture progress or contesting, meaning you start healing as long as they're in it. Odd mechanic.

[@TrustedFemboy]

@@thegamech1cken566 i saw him go into the smoke but i didnt see him leave so that must mean he left

[@SilentLegion96]

@@thegamech1cken566 Correct, this is how it works.

[@DovahRS]

I like the idea of designing feats around the character's playstyle.

[@valhalla_1129]

Why did Scout get nerfed to 15% a while ago if Morale Booster is allowed to stay at 30% regardless? Yes it shows the enemies through walls, but that has hardly any value in a game like For Honor, where you spend 99% of your time playing on one of three zones or currently moving from one of said zones to another? Technically it also increases the amount of renown you get for a kill, but that doesn't matter when you have to be at renown level 4 to even activate it, and there's no reason to assume you'll always be the top of the scoreboard so the rest of your team could benefit from it. Lastly, a damage boost can outlast someone dying and being revived, but if they die with the debuff on them, the debuff is immediately removed, so you can at least potentially get far more mileage out of something like Morale Booster anyway. Scout should at least do 25% so it doesn't feel useless compared to other damage buff feats. Fear Itself is still at 50% and I don't see anyone complaining about that.

[@samfish2550]

I kinda wish it had a second effect along the lines of eather increasing the movement and or capture speed of atleast the valk if not the team. Letting you act more easily on the info you will have on the enemy positions. Feels like a unique way of buffing it while keeping it's identity.

[@valhalla_1129]

@@samfish2550 that'd be a pretty cool addition. I just really don't see much value in knowing the enemy's position, I know people say that's good but in For Honor, information like that really doesn't do all that much for me. The maps take like 15 seconds to traverse, it's not like that'll ever change much.

[@rouslanaususbekistan5864]

Imagine getting Revenge and an enemy BP uses oof-breaker on you

[@BlueStreakActual]

JuSt RePoSiTiOn YoUrSeLf

[@atynniehawke9341]

I'm a bp main myself and I've never used it cause is broken as hell

[@emperorbunnybun7513]

Imagine Nurfing one of the MOST usefull support feat like Protective Revive that only TWO characters have it. Like, Protective Revive and Rising Sun would just make your team a bunch of Gods, and if they had Agis, oH bOy!

[@satirical579]

They literally took the protected out of protected revive, but still call it protected revive.

[@sambellware5810]

I havent played in two seasons what does the feat actually do now?

[@satirical579]

@@sambellware5810 it no longer gives hyperarmor to you while you’re reviving a teammate, and they reduced the shield the revived teammate gets from 75% to 50% -ish.

[@satirical579]

At this point, it might as well be a perk instead of a feat.

[@sambellware5810]

@@satirical579 so it just revives them with half hp and a half shield?

[@jarlGudmunder]

Lol get pic rolled

[@deadmeme887]

Nice try idiot I'm blind

[@gorilla2796]

@@deadmeme887 I might be blind, but at least im not black!

[@gunnify371]

@@deadmeme887 hold on, how tf you be commenting?

[@rektmaister6837]

@@gorilla2796 ~Stevie Wonder

[@jacopodelbo5122]

@@gunnify371 braille touchscreen duh

[@TheBonkmeister]

They could just like you know split all feats into 3 categories, faction, class, and special. Factions like bombs for knights and smoke bombs for samurai. Class based like tough as nails for heavies. Special like with hito's 4th feat only for hito. Idk just an idea

[@NaskaRudd]

I know this was a while ago, bit I honestly love this idea, could even colour code them

[@rcgaming9349]

@freeze how about the fact that you can use smoke bomb to literally capture an objective out from under somebody because it deletes you from existence?

[@rejeanhill4754]

Wait really ?

[@rcgaming9349]

@@rejeanhill4754 yea give it s try.

[@EmptyTenementSpirit]

Fire Flask is the most forgotten feat of all, so underused compared to overpowered Catapult. Smh Frez.

[@phantom__1117]

Catapul aint OP. I have never died to a catapult

[@gorilla2796]

No, fire flask is used plenty as its optimal for 1vX. And commonly combined with fury to give it even HIGHER dmg

[@amazingchestahead4602]

@@gorilla2796 that's... the joke

[@gorilla2796]

@@amazingchestahead4602 o

[@gorilla2796]

@@amazingchestahead4602 didnt catch the guys sarcasm, just thought he was a newbie

[@TheAusar]

7:30 Man just took that L to proove a point. That's dedication.

[@lirmeaney6255]

You know I just watch these videos half the time for the gameplay and just listen to freeze be pissed off in the background. Oddly entertaining for me idk ,😂

[@valhalla_1129]

I started playing during the beta, where GB's were super powerful because nobody could react fast enough. A month or so later, GB's already became much, much harder to hit, and shortly after only guaranteed GB vulnerability made them a viable option, kind of how it is today. Not once in my life, not even a single time, do I remember someone ever using slippery. I thought it prevented all GB attempts, but it turns out it only counters guardbreaks for you that you could've countered by yourself, as all guaranteed attempts still hit you just the same as before. It's an awful feat with absolutely zero use to it, and a level 4 feat at that, meaning it competes with some very powerful choices.

[@friendlyreaper9012]

Yeah I think every gb attempt should bounce off when slippery is active, it would at least make it useful

[@valhalla_1129]

@@friendlyreaper9012 while that definitely would make it far more useful, I think it'd also make it incredibly frustrating to fight against at the same time. Besides, I think the feat should be entirely removed and replaced because it's simply a really boring idea either way. The same goes for Kensei's "unblockable", for example. Really useful, but really not fun to go up against in any scenario. That sorta thing shouldn't be the case, especially for tier 4 feats, which are supposed to be pretty powerful to begin with.

[@friendlyreaper9012]

@@valhalla_1129 yeah, not to mention smoke bomb and unblockable combo, I am really not happy with the feat balancing in the game.Some tier 4s are useless and then you have bounty hunter as tier 1 or corruption.

[@Hadras7094]

Especially considering that juggernaut, a tier 2 feat, can do that already.

[@tradend2817]

@@friendlyreaper9012 Bounty hunter is arguably more useful than a good percentage of all feats.

[@rossalbane7743]

That Kensei dove in for that kill at the end

[@theinsane833]

I personally love tainted gift literally takes you from less then half to practically full for marking someone and killing them great for team fights and combined with deliverance it’s awesome

[@malcrider4300]

Honestly, just fuck fire flask, even though you know your opponent is about to throw it 9/10 you still gonna die cuz of it, like I was antiganking with tiandi and I was doing really good until the 2 raiders threw 2 fire flasks at me. 😤

[@GrovesKCZ]

Wouldn't it be cool to have feats that can change heroes place in game? Like some sort of ''built''? For example - add more feats so we can choose and basically decide if we want to play more ''minion lane Kensei'' or more ''hold the point Kensei''... OR maybe even some sort of ''hunting other heroes Kensei''? There is already a really small difference between Vanguard/Hybrid/Assassin/Hybrid - that this can possibly ''fix'' that. I wasn't really thinking about it in depth, so if anyone can find out any problems with it - let me know!

[@Lefty217]

smoke bomb's purpose: obscuring vision through it. preventing getting ballista'd , arrow'd, etc.

[@Anomallama]

I was happy that you addressed the smoke bomb and how inconsistent and confusing it can be... I thought I might have been the only one that thought it was wildly random. A more in-depth look would be much appreciated!

[@FatRefrigerator]

I was surprised to see Fiat Lux on here. I love using that feat.

[@MrsAikahime]

One thing I think would be neat are feats that can be used as part of a combo string, sort of like having a move with a cooldown on it

[@Sk0lzky]

Shaolin is probably what ubi should be aiming for. Many of the passive ones like stam reduction or whatever are fairly nice too

[@fallendeus]

I'm going to say it, Pirate is them doing feats well. They flow into the kit, they are thematic and they are powerful without feeling oppressive.

[@Bossmano]

I love losing 2 healthbars to give someone 15 health and I give them full stamina. Great feat

[@ivanbenja4]

JJ tier 4 feat is overlooked. It can function as a smoke bomb if you put the enemies on the edge of the deployment circle, it has a mad radius, instant activation and low cooldown.

[@wesleygaray2666]

It's honestly pretty weak most people ignore it when I put it down and just walk in or start using ranged feats

[@ivanbenja4]

@@wesleygaray2666 Use it on enemies that are fighting with your team. It becomes a nuisance. The thickness of the "wall" isn't that big, so enemies can keep getting flashed. It becomes super annoying if you pop it in a way where one of the edges is near a wall. I'd say that feat is more reliable then a smoke bomb in my case.

[@wesleygaray2666]

@@ivanbenja4 yeah I use it to help my buddies keep enemies away but like I said they just use their ranged feats to get rid of it I guess it's really crowd control but it feels weak since it doesn't push anybody inside out of stam but I use fire flask as it does crowd control but also damages the enemy

[@Unconvinced1]

No one ever mentions how smoke bomb will catch a point if all zone enemies are currently in smoke. You can be fighting in zone and if you were defending it... your health starts regenerating immediately

[@bryttonica6286]

It might be too late in this games lifecycle, but I would love it if we have a large Feat specific update. Reworked feats, new feats, the works. :D

[@aether3456]

Given they dropped a whole combat update 2 months ago, which is over 3 years after release, I don't think it's too late.

[@bryttonica6286]

@@aether3456 fingers crossed mate

[@Dapoolcleaner69]

On raider I use Battlecry. Clears B instantly in a pinch. Saved so many dominion matches with it. I think it's worth it

[@mackprime6975]

Is that Thumbnail Tiandi armor customization even possible? Why isn’t anyone talking about how cool the armor looks?

[@drbeidlbock7250]

That's the metal trails event set. (ghastly penitent)

[@fkkfreeze]

that's him using Sacrifice.

[@Unconvinced1]

I just wish we could replace perks and also choose from a list of feats like bow and arrow or speed boost

[@gavinfitch8406]

Hopefully someday they all get fixed. Good video, they do get forgotten.

[@wesselvanharrewijn3082]

fiat flux is usually what i run with lawbringer with both grenade feats, the throwing animation is instant so the enemy has no time to react when hit with it whilst on the floor.probably not competetively viable though.

[@fkkfreeze]

Juggernaut is without question a Top3 Tier 2 feat. I'd run that instead ;)

[@RitcheyRich]

I can remember plenty of games I'd play lawbringer on temple garden and just throw fiat lux into the minion lane from the A point

[@Wandiii]

Didn't the devs announce feat changes at the start of Y4S2? What happenend to those? Or was it just the few healing nerfs? I think 3/4 of the current feats could really use some adjustments. Since this year only has two new heroes, I was actually very much expecting to see some changes in that area. Dominion and breach are the biggest game modes after all and both are very much influenced by the feats that are used in them.

[@AntiFrizzz1]

I don't know any of the names you call. But not because I never see these abilities, but because I'm locked to russian localization, and it freaking sucks!

[@ricegod7812]

Ahh Oath Breaker, the single most hatemail inducing and death threat inducing feat, I love it.

[@Kitsune_Chara_CG]

Honestly tho....its kinda shit its Not even good The best use of it is two Easier teamfights but i myself Held teamfights despite bieng oathbroken in a 1vs3 (Unless there is a smokebomb oathbreaker thats fucking cheap tho) And as said in the other comment of mine Oathbreaker isnt Broken its Actully shit lol And i as a BP Main can say its so rarely used outside of 1vs4 gank last guy alive while team is breaking lol tiandis heal feat is just to insane (Ive heard people say bps is insane to but w tiandi u just gotta hit people which after Core combat isnt hard and the black prior can attack yes but unless you predict a guardbreak your gonna get parried get no heal and while attackin with shield unblockable SO while Bulwark you wont get healed soooo It could be looked at but its nothing compated to tiandis heals

[@Kitsune_Chara_CG]

Like It has no uses outside of gankin someone in an disatvantaged teamfight like be real here Unless its deathmatch and someone gets shield but even then you gotta get three kills to just use it and in a deathmatch three kills are most of the time a game win if your teammates are good so yeah

[@Yharam1066]

I really wish they would change the aiming system for the longbow feats. I use to snipe in earlier seasons but since they twicked it hasn't been the same. Don't even use it anymore. Same with the fire flask and grenades, chunk them a full hundred yards from where you were aiming. Just horrid.

[@dannyavarice]

I feel like Rock Steady is another feat that needs a look at. I've noticed that every Shugoki and Aramusha I see uses it and it feels a bit cheap. I don't mind an opponent being immune to knock down by throws or even revenge parries, but I think being immune to wall splats on top of that is a bit much for a tier 2. I don't understand Ubi's priority with feats. Some lower tier feats are stronger than tier 3 and 4 feats. I do agree that insta-kill feats in general should be nerfed though. The only way I'd like to be killed instantly would be me getting thrown off the map (most of the time it's because of a mistake I made or poor positioning on my part anyway). Nailbomb, Spear Volley, and Last Laugh are probably the most annoying of tier 4's. Catapult, Fire Flask, and Arrow Storm can usually be avoided decently enough. Nailbomb can be avoided, but you have to be prepared for it and make sure nothing interrupts your dodge roll.

[@deflectnya]

The funny thing is I use all bad feats on tiandi kensei Raider I use random stuff and it works it makes the game more fun when you have different feats instead of running the same optimal feat load out every game

[@MiserTheMooseFH]

I would like to see you make a video on what you would change about every feat int the game.

[@dracowrath3555]

When was the last time you seen a raider use the slippery feat? Especially since you would need to pick it over fire flask and stalwart banner!

[@subject_changed4690]

Here's an idea. Lock feats when either team is breaking.

[@BILLGOTPILLZ]

Whenever you would block to the left in smoke and still get hit with a left external good times...

[@KingTigerGuy]

im pretty sure i have commented a mini-essay here that include what i think feat damage should be, had all the long bow type ones at like 30 damage, which is a free heavy but cant really go too low otherwise it will end up not doing enough to be worth the cooldown. One hopeful thing is Ubi at least seems to most of the time kinda watch what you put up, so maybe they will figure out that this is something that has to be addressed.

[@mustbejay6402]

If I have on rock steady jorm shouldn’t be able to throw me on the ground

[@KazumiyaEnthusiast]

I like shaolin's feats Tier 3 gives you and your teammates a bit of hp because you use part of your kit Tier 2 helps to chase easily, get your guaranteed light or go for unblockable mixup *teleports behind you* Tier 1 ok wallhacks . _. Tier 4 *teleports behind you* but you are my teammate Yes, i did it completely out of order

[@catwiffhat4274]

i think a topic of discussion should be the outdated class system. i still see quite a few folks even on the competitive subreddit hung up on the idea that certain moves and properties (such as dodge attacks on assassins and HA on heavies) should be class based, when in reality that design ideology was abandoned long ago for the most part. on top of this, renown gain bonuses based on class can really hurt some heroes based on their meta play style, most notably Shaman, an assassin-class best played as a ganker.

[@barnabasb1128]

Come on UBI Just make For Honor 2 in 2021 with 240Hz compatibility, and ALL the great changes the community has come up with by now. For Honor right now is a GREAT Base label for an incredibly fun game.

[@barnabasb1128]

It just feels very unpolished rn

[@oneofevery9365]

2:21 why didn't you just heavy the shugoki The recovery is so insane that it allows any attack

[@theguardlorenzo5898]

Centurion march should be centurion unique, be tier 4 and give infinite stamina or double it. Remember that doubling it would mean double the time to recover, so it wouldnt be that unbalanced.

[@XoXDSCXoX]

You're right. Centurion's March should be nerfed to a T4 for no reason, clearly it's too meta.

[@rejeanhill4754]

Why make a useless feat a t4

[@drbeidlbock7250]

In my opinion iron lungs is the evidence, that the devs don't understand their own game, or at least not how disengaging works.

[@scraminqbanchy7162]

The only character that could use iron lungs doesn't even have it as an option which is sad as fuck talking about shinobi if you didn't know lol

[@aether3456]

iron lungs is like a campaign tier feat lol

[@ななみアンドレ]

Please do an updated post CCU max punishes for all heroes

[@emperorbunnybun7513]

Tainted Gift is very good, when used with communication.

[@emperorbunnybun7513]

Also, it does work on officers and its aplied as soon as you start an execution. So not only is it a good reason fo you to kill those twats, but also you gain 50 hp from it.

[@woverrinaq8893]

So... How about goki getting a demons embrace off of light parry? Kinda out of the blue but i thought it when watching the gameplay...

[@MandMREPTILS]

Thanks for useing tiandi as an example he really needs help

[@kingwolf1471]

I just remember that Kensi has a weird T3 throwing feat or something. I can't remember what its called. I need sleep

[@cointsb2021]

Steadfast it just makes you immune to throws

[@gsocktulah57]

2:18 Wait, what? Goki confirmed OP, cant even get guaranteed GB punishes off the big man.

[@phoam2389]

Thats not about goki thats about conq

[@cubedefender1802]

I know I'm late, but he just accidentally delayed his heavy.

[@dontyodelsohard2456]

Not sure why such a blatant thought has never crossed my mind but more feats that compliment the hero kit instead of just dealing damage would actually be really nice and sort of strengthen their identity... More unique feats would be nice, basically...

[@jordansimpkins8784]

great video

[@seide2829]

How is rocksteady not nerfed yet

[@cherrycola4476]

I want tier 4 feats to be items like in story mode.

[@andrewgonsalez5846]

Is it just me or did second wind get nerfed??

[@NaskaRudd]

It did, I believe it now heals 35 HP every 120 seconds as opposed to 50

[@_skaadii]

Nobushi with tiandi Healing on low HP would be so good

[@Mattman_90]

I wonder if smoke bomb would be better off being completely changed. So, if you're caught in an enemy smoke bomb the following occurs: You can still lock on to opponents. Can't perform actions like, reviving or picking up banners/offerings. You're opponent's (whom you are locked onto) indicators are hidden whilst you're in the smoke. External indicators still visible. Smoke opacity reduced so you can still see animations but still some smoke visible. I think this would stop it being really strong and encourage players to study animations of the character they're fighting. It reduces frustration for the person caught in the smoke as they can still defend themselves, it's just harder to do so. Duration of smoke and cooldown times will likely need adjusting too but I think this works a little better thematically too. The user can attempt to overwhelm their opponent whilst in the smoke. Has to better than being completely blind though. 🤔

[@NoForksGiven]

But Froze, Tainted Gift allows the Hito to get extra heals in Breach... as long as the captain you want to execute doesn't get killed by Pikemen, or other captains, or braindead teammates or you dont get hit out of it, or you dont die before the heal (I'm not giving up fast stam regen for the execute shield) Yeah Righteous Deflection is a better T2 for her. Ubi plz

[@wonderlord0226]

What do you mean with forgotten ?

[@Quandaledogle]

Yo freeze that conquer was bashing the shit out of you

[@naitodesu6564]

The way Ubisoft handles feats is mindboggling. They listen to feedback and overnerf a feat, leaving it useless since launch, or release an overpowered feat in its current state and think it's okay, such as with Mong's feats. A T1 feat that could completely remove someone's presence in mid and give you mid-dominance. I understand it's nerfed now, but Ubisoft did nothing with it before release unlike Rally Call.

[@gorilla2796]

Yeah, WMs corruption blade is equivilant to having a t4 as a t1, with 30 sec cooldown. pretty dumb

[@imarobotbeepboop766]

hey ubi make it so i can parry fire flask like hito's tier 4

[@maxfullarton]

It is really annoying to gain the upper hand in a fight just to get long bowed then light spammed

[@ogmudbone9093]

Bomb feats were super balanced back in the day, they should be buffed again so i can actually play lb and not insta lose cause he's so garbage.

[@TrustedFemboy]

lb isnt bad if you know how to play him most lb carry games

[@nelsonrupiza7789]

HAHAHAHAHA no

[@gundamlupuzrex4246]

I love feets

[@link-lo1gx]

I really wish some feats could get buffs cause there are some first tier feats that are better than fourth tier feats 🤣

[@shadowofthehitokiri5787]

Here I am still waiting for a Hito buff.

[@OneCrazedSniper1]

it arrived

[@shadowofthehitokiri5787]

@@OneCrazedSniper1 Indeed it has XD

[@raidenlightningbolt4602]

7:29 big oof

[@CEOofDontCareInc]

Slippery be like

[@ChaosLemonVIII]

I hate fast recovery, giving one side infinite stamina more or less is a huge advantage.

[@DoctorPastapus]

Raiders Slippery are close to useless

[@garrettswaim5649]

I have to say, I disagree with you here. What attracted me to for honor was the atmosphere. When the pre-beta footage was released, it was the gritty knightVvikingVsamurai world that really hit it with me. The campaign reinforced it, and the spectacularly detailed maps like citadel gate gave me the taste of a world that has so much lore, history, and purpose. I think it was never meant to be a straight-up fighting game. It was supposed to be more, with a “total war” vibe that really made you feel like a legend. Powerful feats are a very important part of that. It’s in the name, “feat” In any other context, you hear/read the word “feat” and it calls to mind an impossible act of daring, something the ordinary person couldn’t do. If they had wanted them to act more as “perks” they would’ve just named them that. But again, I don’t think that’s what they were going for. Don’t get me wrong, the balancing of the game more towards a fast and balanced fighting game has definitely made combat a lot more fair, but it’s also taken a lot of the depth and immersion away. What’s the point of throwing a grenade if it only takes a third of the enemy’s Health and gives them instant revenge? When was the last time you called a catapult strike with all the conviction and authority of god down on your enemy? TL;Dr: broken feats were a feature, not a bug. The game is more balanced without them, but has less depth. And instead of their removal or nerfing, other aspects of the game should be tweaked to make feats more momentous, but less oppressive.

[@yungmalaria]

Bruh how is there more depth from a fireflask instantly doing 60 damage and another 10 to 40 in fire lmao

[@garrettswaim5649]

@@yungmalaria because it’s a consideration you have to take, something other than the base mechanic of “gon top heavy lol” It should be a tactical decision to use it, instead of a brain dead insta-kill. But it should still be powerful. I would argue that 60 outright damage is way too high, but it IS a firebomb, so the overall damage inflicted shouldn’t be much less if any. My point is that feats aren’t really being treated correctly anymore. They should be about changing the tide of battle, making the player feel like a hero. As of right now they feel cheap, they’re either insta-win buttons, or not worth the time, which I think Freeze expertly pointed out. It’s just jarring. Going from a perfectly sound and inclusive art-of-battle system, to “ima pull out this bow and whoever I lock onto fuckin’ dies” I’d like to see a more integrated and nuanced feat system, even makes projectile feats a pickup item like some of those in the campaign, which could add an entirely new aspect to dominion for example

[@nelsonrupiza7789]

So basically, make the feats overpowered again so that balance can go out the window for "mUh ImMeRsIoN" in a game where we have a literal teleporting monk. Yeah no, screw that...

[@garrettswaim5649]

@@nelsonrupiza7789 well I think there’s a difference between “immersion” and “realism”. For honor is definitely a fantasy setting. And where it used to be an RR Martin-esque low fantasy, (you know, larger than life heroes who do incredible things in an otherwise feasible world) with the introduction of shaolin, and jormungandr in particular, we have thoroughly transitioned into Tolkien-style high fantasy. I’m surprised we don’t have elves yet. And again, I’m coming from the perspective of for honor being a fighting game/ moba hybrid. If you look at for honor on just its merits as a fighting game, it’s not a very good fighting game. Likewise if you look at it strictly as a moba. What made for honor as a concept work, was that it blended the elements of both game styles into one, with a rich, compelling atmosphere and story. Take a look at Overwatch, another hero-based moba. It has instakills and was one of the most popular titles in the world. It still has a large, dedicated player base. I think a feat rework is in order, just like Freeze. I just think it should be handled in an entirely different way, with projectile/healing items being pickup consumables found around the map. Not only would it allow fine tuning in fight balance, it would also give devs an opportunity to add depth to 4v4s by placing the items in strategic points of interest, giving teams more tactical options and choices to make instead of “Boost home zone and hold B to win”

[@nelsonrupiza7789]

@@garrettswaim5649 Making feats a pick up item wouldn't solve any issues though. Matter of fact it would create more issues in the first place. Feats just dont have any place in this game. They just make balancing heroes in 4v4 harder. Also, why the comparison to overwatch? One's an fps where each character has a different ultimate and areas where each character excels at and the other is a 3rd person brawler where, even though theres more than 25 characters, most of them have the same mechanics and playstyle and those who don't have are usually garbage.

[@ejcy429]

I know every feat except probably one, try me community

[@nicolaspeigne1429]

A 10 min video talking about feets.

[@fkkfreeze]

you are very perceptive

[@aloneaudio3065]

I think nuxias corruption should be nerfed, but should be constant around HER so everyone engaging in combat with her will take constant damage, cuz right now it’s really bad

[@CamoFlash7_]

*Hello there!*

[@bob6769]

General Shinobi

[@StormKnight1]

Wait so you didn't even mention Come at me ?

[@XoXDSCXoX]

Why?

[@scraminqbanchy7162]

@@XoXDSCXoX it's fucking horrible if it's the feat I'm thinking of which makes it so you take more damage but get more renown which is honestly a horrible trade off

[@XoXDSCXoX]

@@scraminqbanchy7162 It is that feat and it's most recommended pick for Warden so he can unlock the rest of his feats. You only use it on objectives and not for combat.

[@scraminqbanchy7162]

@@XoXDSCXoX now my main question is the boost in renown even worth it? Also it becomes kinda useless once you unlock tier 4 so it just doesn't even seem that good

[@XoXDSCXoX]

@@scraminqbanchy7162 Body count is useless if you aren't in a minion lane or decide to play any other gamemode. Conqueror is only good for boosts. They're all situational like this feat. Earning feats first can be the reason you win a match.

[@Criiies]

Unga bunga

[@Cran1umriv3r]

Freeze VIedeo on 100 % More Viable Moves Have to be Nerfed in the game ! After Standartization ( ALL Characters Same Speed ) CCU ( ALL Characters Same Damage ) There are Stuff that are 100 % More Than Others ! We Wont Tank about Health Pools That Are 20/30 % More :D Examples ! HL /Hito Bashes That give Heavy Attack but are same speed as bashes that give light ! Hence 100 % More Damage JJ Choke its still 60 % Stamina Drain + KD after CCU When they nerfed all to 30 % ! PK Zone its still a light attack ! All other 24 are Heavy's !! Why Noone Talks about those stuff !!

[@yungmalaria]

Bruh

[@fkkfreeze]

his comments are always next level.

[@KingTigerGuy]

@@fkkfreeze ah so i guess he is a regular?

[@fkkfreeze]

it's very hard to miss them, they're always in that kind of writing style.

[@KingTigerGuy]

@@fkkfreeze i guess they are pretty uh.... unique

[@Kitsune_Chara_CG]

Honestly The Out of stam bomb for knights honestly just add 10 dmg so it kills minions and then i would pick it Since Warden despite a vanguard has absulutly shit Minion Lane Clear Even tiandi has his zone life steal and shield raider has elss stamina dmg n stuff but warden is just shit at minions lol That would make running body count actully useful (And for the amazing minion clear Severly Decrease its range its Fine to walk to minion lane lawbringers bombs are stupid anyways and i gotem rep 22 ik how bullshitty they are so yeah)

[@Artorias-The-Wolf-Knight]

I heard you say space storm.

[@vitorvena]

Thats why i said they took the hard and stupid way of nerfing dmg instead of buffing health... Fire these devs dude wtf how are they allowed to work on im 300% sure theres more qualified ppl out there needing jobs...

[@BlueStreakActual]

Some feats would really sync better with different heroes than the ones they're on now. Imagine Nukekubi on berserker, Come At Me on assassins, or Thick Blood on nobody.

[@dontsayit5537]

Why does every idiot with shugoki a heavy after a guard break near a wall ?!?!?!?

[@fkkfreeze]

elaborate

[@aether3456]

@@fkkfreeze hes saying he doesn't understand why you went for demon ball instead of hug after you gb'd someone near a wall in one of the clips in the video (even though in context, demon ball was the better decision rather than spending 5 seconds to hug someone)

[@HateIncarnate]

Ooth breaker

[@toukosiren9004]

If I recall correctly, spear storm was nerfed. And what did they do? Nerf the damage, and as it turns out, It can still singlehandedly end a teamfight. Just give it the catapult treatment already, ubi

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

6:56 lmao what