Former Spy on How Trump CHANGED The CIA

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[@appalachiatiger]

Should lose clearance as soon as you leave the govt. That seems like common sense.

[@eftihiospentarakis1748]

100

[@dirtabd]

You do. Ask a real agent who didnt crack to their schizophrenia.

[@ottpicker8039]

i guess this is not how it works... u got the intel & they don't trust u, can't be controlled

[@roymoore3156]

When you cease service, your clearance ceases to be in an “active” mode. Nothing changes but the status, active/inactive.

[@zolotozvezda5278]

When I left in 2011, I had to sign my de-indoctrination papers for my security clearance. You don't keep your clearance until it expires, like he says.

[@333crt]

This guy sure does talk a lot for a spy.

[@oldandtiredshouldberetired3436]

They're trying something new. Recruitment of this generation has been tough. Young people want a lot of information to make choices. In the old days they could just say everything's secret and everyone bought in, nobody buys bologna anymore they want filet mignon at bologna prices.the agency is forced to accept change.

[@kitkat186]

Con artists talk a lot too😊

[@user-jp5gl6xb4t]

America Government is Evil as Hell the country is Ran by Europe and China they all .money demons Sacrificing folks for the Devil. This been going on for 6000 years Humanity have to stop Living Evil following these DEVILS..the Government Selling The Drugs and Started all WARs to Bind Humanity in HELL

[@wesseljordaan7781]

There are office Johny's and then there are active field operatives, huge difference!

[@nosik68]

Almost everything is public btw better check it before doing anything else

[@IAmNoOne281]

Dude already ate his cyanide tooth, and survived.

[@PirateR4ptor]

Dang, is that really a thing?

[@IAmNoOne281]

@@PirateR4ptor it was.

[@joshuachan8475]

That's some funny shit. Lmao

[@Starking_45]

😂😂😂 my gawd I spit everywhere

[@kyledammann4284]

😂😂😂

[@Helix_22]

If this dude does not get your Spidey sense tingling I don't know what's wrong with you.

[@grod9976]

He does. Because he’s full of shit 😂

[@akgolfpro]

This is a CIA PR mission

[@cronizle]

What?!? You mean the guy that only brings up things that have already been made public by the CIA and then turns around to praise and make clear they "don't do that anymore and are all working to make America safe."

[@markupton1417]

Just like EVERYTHING EVERYONE who works(ed) for them ever says.

[@intelcom4964]

And you think working for the CIA is like working for a drug dealer or what? Working for any federal agency is good my guy

[@cronizle]

@intelcom4964 Your name is intel and your saying a comparison between drug dealers and the CIA as ridiculous? Is this satire? If not Google "CIA sells drugs."

[@M1TGWolf]

We are all on a PR mission

[@zemog1025]

Always be wary of any "ex CIA" guy that makes the talk show rounds.

[@jimmyparris9892]

Right. Why aren't foreign agents coming after this guy? It doesn't make any sense. But, we all know that they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true.

[@iTammy]

We sure it’s not Meghan M?

[@ibelieveinyour]

Once a cia agent always a cia agent

[@AndreaMartinez-qu1be]

We all should be.

[@lennybrewster4673]

Exactly. Dude snitched on his own platoon when he was active duty.

[@landofthefree1700]

This guy is full of it. He could have never survived behind the iron curtain for a second.

[@JamesKeith-eu7so]

This is the same dude who snitched on his Battle buddies for drinking

[@skylinevisible7216]

Blue Falconward

[@yonikki]

Once CIA ... always CIA

[@M1TGWolf]

And we would all be if we were good enough

[@donaldlawson9799]

@@M1TGWolfyou reek of pig. Tick tock tyrants, flood is coming and there is nothing you can do to stop it 😂😂😂😂😂

[@RbgBennett]

Yeah this is what they want us to think for sure

[@yonikki]

@@carefulicarus7393 what do you think the CIA looks like?

[@livinginthisgalaxy7961]

"Once ONI always ONI"

[@Qplus-tc5hh]

He stopped peoples clearance that had been out of office for years but were still meddling in foreign and domestic matters due to their still active security clearance. Thats why. This was for politicians also.

[@google_is_a_criminal]

Yup. Weird how they've managed dissenting opinions so effectively.

[@Fu-orksGive.PEACE.achance.]

@qplus-tc5hh it's ok for drumpf to stop everyone else meddling in foreign affairs except for drumpf. Who kept all the govt intelligence files in Mary Largo , for fat orange

[@mickhoover8050]

i.e. John Brennan.

[@Qplus-tc5hh]

@@mickhoover8050 and Hillary Clinton

[@Qplus-tc5hh]

@@mickhoover8050 and H.C.

[@user-DrJoe-Future]

Excellent discussion. I worked in government for 43 years, and the assessment was pretty good. I was interviewed by an intelligence agency but for a number of reasons, decided to pass it up. If the Intelligence agencies are politicized, you will seldom have reliable, honest, and good intelligence. If the Department of Justice is politicized, you dissolve into injustice, tyranny, and a police state. If the Judiciary is politicized, you can lose rule of law, freedom, justice, and the end of a democratic republic.

[@Kozmo260]

Like what just happened to Trump at this rigged trial

[@user-DrJoe-Future]

@@Kozmo260 Yes, you are correct.

[@10elijiah]

Well said Mr Joe

[@laurelh1799]

I say that's exactly what we have now!

[@thorlove6050]

We are boiling now, we've had this openly since Bush Seniors New World order. But some would say since Nixon.

[@jaryncovell2538]

I would say "he doesn't look like a spy" but that's actually the entire point

[@archangel5991]

This dude is literally a spokesperson for the agency. It wasn’t enough to just be a former agency guy. He’s adopted the entire “im a cool long haired hippy, you can trust me, i’m just like you”. Not fooling anyone.

[@CleverGirlAAH]

Hello, fellow kids.

[@herpiegerbstick6808]

Dude is literally a grocery bagger that read some spy novels. If you think this dude was actually a CIA agent, you probably eat crayons.

[@SpecYTandX]

There is no such thing as ex CIA.

[@Blueforme]

Ha! Long beautiful head full of curly hair

[@michaelcar4012]

And lastly his is on just about all the podcast. That promoting something or some one. 👎

[@KapyBarra41]

I've never seen a plant who has looked more like a plant 🌴

[@andrewferguson8032]

He put too much water on his Chia Pet

[@KapyBarra41]

@@andrewferguson8032 "C(h)IA Pet"

[@DrTiwade]

😂😂😂😂

[@DrTiwade]

​@andrewferguson8032 😂😂😂

[@Lightning613]

@@andrewferguson8032🤣

[@josepha9061]

Dude is basically talking about hiring mercenaries

[@drjones762]

Not basically…. I don’t want the gov nor private corporations doing CIA stuff… IDK which is worse… I guess it’s worse when the gov does it because they have this fake, usurped “authoritah!” That they have deemed literally unlimited. Constitution be damned…

[@willardswelding7243]

Exactly. See my comment above

[@billseventy6825]

Ermmmm aint that what the CIA has done for a long long time ..................... LOL

[@willardswelding7243]

@@billseventy6825 there was a time when they would use regular army spec ops personnel, usually S.F. on an “as needed” basis for wet work. Some were officially dropped from army roles for the duration of the operation. It was referred to as “white washing.” When the U-2 was first deployed there were Air Force operated U-2’s and CIA operated U-2’s. All of the CIA pilots came out of the Air Force’s pilot pool but were officially discharged from the Air Force and worked directly for the CIA. This was referred to as “bleaching.” Through most of the history of Army S.F., training and leading indigenous personnel into direct insurgent/counter-insurgent operations has been handled by regular Army S.F. personnel. Payroll for the indigenous force is handled by CIA personnel. In addition, historically, for covert combat operations involving indigenous personnel procurement was also handled by CIA staff. I’ve heard them referred to as “bagmen”. It is not a complimentary moniker. Laos in the 1960’s is a good example. The CIA would convince the indigenous people to grow opium, opium would be sold for gold and gold would be used to procure weapons and equipment. The KGB was at times surprisingly uninvolved directly with wet work. They usually used Bulgarians for the dirty stuff. Not to say there were not cold blooded bastards in the KGB. Take a good look at Vladimir Putin’s eyes. Always reminded me of when a shark rolls that nictitating membrane over his eye right before he bites. Bulgarians were used when the Soviets felt they needed to bother with plausible deniability. I would not be surprised if the modern CIA contracts out to privates for the same reason.

[@codyfoster148]

What do you think privateers were they they owned entire vessels with multiple cannons and if you were wealthy enough entire fleets

[@user-fc2qf8up3e]

We got an ex-CIA government guy, he fired all of the Republicans. His thing was to get back at all of the people in the company who were having affairs with co-workers, just like how his Boss was raked over the coals for that. He fired the very financial brain that made the company what it was. He had issues and vendettas, and he was allowed to steamroll right in. It cost thousands of employees and shareholders tons of money in countless ways. The company finally got back its share price, and it took 20 years. Now the evil is being perpetuated in a think-tank. I wouldn’t be surprised if all of this ridiculous tax legislation on home equity and unrealized capital gains is coming out of that abyss, the dark, evil abyss of destruction.

[@dixieporter2960]

So, you are in favor of allowing the wealthy to evade taxes on unrealized capital gains while using the "unrealized" gains to provide the same benefits as cash?

[@annoravetz5188]

Miss Dixie, what you are ascribing to me is that I’m in favor of evading taxes by the wealthy. Don’t put those words in my mouth. You can’t evade taxes if no one passes a stupid tax law. Yea, if no one “thinks of” a stupid tax law, you can’t evade it. People that think of these stupid laws are creating crime where there was none before. The fallacy you are swallowing is that it’s only “the wealthy” who have unrealized gains. Try and get your head around who has unrealized gains in this country. If you’re Joe Schmoe the plumber, saving for retirement, you have assets, and unrealized gains, that is your goal. Anyone who has any inkling of what an asset is, you’re against anyone having wealth, you’re not for this country. You need to go live in a communist country, and be happy not owning anything. I’m so glad the Supreme Court got more power. We need protection from these knuckleheads writing these bubble headed laws designed to take down this country.

[@dixieporter2960]

@annoravetz5188 After reading your response, I have determined that you actually don't support the wealthy paying taxes. I know there are a lot of stupid tax breaks for the wealthy, like not taxing capital gains on stocks, yet those stocks help the owner to maintain a very luxurious lifestyle. Think of it this way, do you think all of Bezo, Musk, Buffet, etc. wealth can be found in banks? If you know that it isn't, how do you think they maintain their lifestyle? Name a tax you think is stupid and should be abolished

[@TesterBoy]

Please explain what company this was.

[@Foreign_Pilgrim]

​@@TesterBoyme too??

[@Schedule1ne315]

You know Shultz is surrounded by yes men when he still has that haircut

[@bojanglesobrien6883]

Are we still shaming people for having different haircuts?

[@73split]

@@bojanglesobrien6883yes! Yes we are! That haircut null and voids this man’s credibility!

[@hanknorris5642]

Yeah... it looks familiar. I saw pics of it on a German leader in 1938. What was that guys name?

[@73split]

@@hanknorris5642 sure. Just about all murderous dictators were known for their conservative and non-offensive hair styles. It’s almost like all murderous dictators went to the same hairdressers.

[@fischman26-China]

It's called Slingblade Style.

[@samboheena]

dude straight up agreed that he knew someone and it wasn't the right name.

[@danieldipoalo5369]

The reality is that the government isn’t here to fatten their pockets. The government is here to protect the people, not covert operations against their own people.

[@Ralph08250]

This is the same “spy” that said he carries an emergency contact card in his wallet with his families names and phone numbers. 😂

[@rafewheadon1963]

This guy is a CIA spokesman.

[@SMacCuUladh]

why is he sh**ing on the CIA then?

[@dustinmurphy82able]

100% correct! He isn’t a “former” spy at all. He is 100% an agent and it’s funny most people don’t see it. He has been on 4238 podcast in 538 days 😂 anyone who thinks he isn’t spewing a controlled message is an idiot. He says spies don’t kill people 😂 every other spy interview they say “oh yeah we kill people”

[@dustinmurphy82able]

@@SMacCuUladhyou haven’t seen many of his videos have you? He didn’t say anything bad about the CIA. Only exactly what he is told to say by the CIA 😂

[@davidaldridge5716]

This. To the T. Im not super interested in hearing him talk anymore after hearing him talk at length 3-4 different times He inadvertently reps the cia/war machines interests and he’s slick about it

[@TansecnPoe]

At this point it’s obvious, the man has done so many podcast in the last year or so. The CIA isn’t about to let “former” employees go around spilling the beans

[@mikehenkes]

When ever you listen to a "former CIA agent" remember you NEVER EVER LEAVE the CIA!!!

[@MZ-rv1bu]

We hear this all the time, so you heard this from who? how do you know that's true? Because everybody else says it's true? tsk tsk...

[@DominationOverWeaklings]

Why?

[@BillyTravis-ti8jy]

This guy means well and he does have a fair amount of "insider information" but he is also in many cases talking beyond his experience. He weaves facts, truth, and personal experience with supposition and opinion.

[@the.hamel.mammal7802]

How do you know?

[@angelab.6818]

This is terrifying information. No rules. No safeguards.

[@martypoynter9806]

As a former Navy Special Warfare Operator, our clearances are revoked the day of discharge. Why is the Pentagon different?

[@willardswelding7243]

Because of the priveleges of rank. If you were an active team member you were at best a CPO, a lieutenant, or a warrant. If you worked at the pentagon and you did anything other than fetch coffee for admirals you were probably at least a commander. Some things never change. You might be a top notch tier one guy but to pentagon people you are a grunt, and, do to class distinction, do not deserve the perk of maintaining clearance post exit. I am also sure that I do not need to tell you that most high ranking officers who are not elite qualified despise elites.

[@Harlem139Convent1]

Sure you were!!!!

[@rileyf8036]

@@Harlem139Convent1why is it so hard to believe?

[@Billrovid]

Marty not entirely true.

[@marcblank3036]

To give lobbyists opportunities. The CIA and FBI have proven themselves to be politized

[@rayzincain]

Keeping a Security Clearance after employment makes no sense. The first question asked is, "does this person have a need to know?" Having a clearance with that fact makes no sense.

[@Lightning613]

It’s for the private/public partnership so private companies can work on (highly) classified programs for manufacturing or services ( Mussolini’s definition of Fascism).

[@BoBoZoBo]

Those are independent things. You can hold clearance for 5 years, it happens all the time. Does not mean you will get access to information, unless you are compartmentalized for it, need to know.

[@Doorkicker505]

When I left the position in the federal government that gave me my top secret security clearance, I did not take it with me. I don't know if this guy's talking about

[@Lightning613]

@@Doorkicker505 If your clearance was up to date, the company (that needs clearances) has an advantage as it costs them much less to transition it rather than starting from scratch.

[@jdwar11]

Simply holding a clearance isn’t a ticket to whatever you want. There is still the need to know that is relevant. Once you have a clearance of whatever level there is no reason for it to be terminated unless for cause. Just put a pause on it so you don’t have to immediately fall into another job having a sponsoring owner to maintain.

[@Torvzjk]

Remember that many law firms hire from these pools too.

[@Jay121]

The "Archer" business model.

[@HM_Channel1V3]

CIA Crime International Association 😂😂😂😂😂

[@HM_Channel1V3]

Criminals International Association

[@SWest00072]

Chinese International Association.

[@CDBcrazyvideos]

*C*_riminals_ *I*_n_ *A*_ction_

[@MJ-xi1mk]

Clowns In America

[@trublu3483]

Child interment agency

[@nordan00]

I don’t know. As a former Air Force B-52 officer, I had a TS-SCI security clearance. My understanding was that it was in force for five years and then had to be done again, which would make you good for another five years. And I only had access to TS info I was cleared to know, meaning only info I needed for my specific job. That’s what’s meant by “compartmented.” I couldn’t read up on UFOs or the JFK hit. I didn’t have clearance to know about that shit. And, once I got out of the Air Force, I no longer had access to any Top Secret or even classified information. None! The only thing that made having that clearance important in the civilian world was that your employer knew that the feds had done a fairly thorough background investigation on you and hadn’t found anything “bad.”

[@BoBoZoBo]

That is how all clearance works.

[@Doorkicker505]

I also had a TS from DHS. Your TS lasts 5 years. You have to go thru another full background check to keep your clearance going. It doesn't automatically renew itself. I don't think this guy knows what he's talking about. It's subtle mistakes like this that makes me believe that this guy might be full of crap

[@nordan00]

@@Doorkicker505 I agree! And that missing lower tooth doesn’t help his case!

[@future_teknokrat7585]

You're correct, unless you join a psuedo government agency/contractor immediately after you leave service. Many reserve personnel have the leg up as they are able to be in the civilian job during their service and/or prior to leaving. I transitioned to a state NG and had acquired way more civilian contacts. During the past/current GWOT, those who get deployed to any combat theatre have been exposed to more contractors than any war or combat action prior. At my last FOB, there was a mix of State Dept, CIA, ODA, and contractors performing similar and simultaneous functions. Long story short, if your background investigation is recent enough and clearance is still current, a civilian transition into a similar or higher level role is very possible and seamless.

[@rayrojas5185]

I understand what you're saying but I'm assuming that security clearances are not all the same either because apparently certain people still have security clearances after they leave their positions in the government otherwise this conversation wouldn't even be happening?

[@rosariodeleon541]

The man that’s speaking about the CIA, wasn’t he on NCIS episode Enemy Combatant?

[@geraldjones2099]

This is one problem, they assume a junior sales can make 250 grand a year.....the nationwide average is 40to60 grand a year. The inflated salaries are in the upper east coast, and west coast. Alot of people i know would love to make a washington beaurocracy salary......

[@granand]

I am confused too. These guys must be seeing filthy amount of money in lobbying, clearances etc in his world, junior salesman makes 250k ? It tells you everything why they need to go

[@beetalius]

"only 160k" tells you all you need to know about washington

[@matdamon471]

How much should they make ?

[@user-zb7tg5hi3t]

That’s why they live in million dollar homes in McLean, Va

[@thelordrico8109]

@@matdamon471250k max in job description but make 100millions 😂😂a year you tell me

[@OnkyoGrady]

There are no cheap places to move there and id hope we'd pay Intel people enough not to be immediately bribed.

[@marlow769]

@@user-zb7tg5hi3t A shack costs a million in McLean.

[@user-ts1tq7hl7z]

Barber: what can I do for you, sir? Andrew: Give me the 1940’s bad boy

[@mjz667]

He’s enjoying his Goebbels era

[@KneeJerkReactions13]

Went all Peaky Blinder

[@ericb6491]

Hitler youth

[@lollipopsfordays3610]

I’m getting 1980s rock hair band

[@gamer-ix1dc]

Still better than Hitler

[@dominysynclair]

7:14 I don't know, that sting O'Keefe did on the CIA contractor makes it look like Trump's reasons were all good.

[@JJ-wd4rb]

All these agencies need to go

[@mitchkim6763]

Wasn’t he the guy that ratted out all his roommates for drinking in Air Force? 😂😂😂

[@keanureeves9941]

Yep

[@KeeganRobbins-je9vf]

And y'all let him slide up into a even further position.. y'all fr pathetic

[@ryanjones7777]

I'm all for these kind of interviews. But you lose a massive amount of credibility when you're like "Yeah, I know James Baker he's great". But it's Mike Baker.

[@kinghutt79]

Like these fools ever had any credibility 😂

[@Raldazzar2]

they lose credibility for.. misremembering somebodies name? despite lavishing praise on them for their skill/abilities? grow up. its a name. nothing more... you fucking plum.

[@YashRamisetty]

They corrected it in caption

[@thekerr8728]

You also lose credibility when you say 160k a year is a bad salary…

[@Qdawwg]

Feeling over facts lol, they are comedians

[@brianredman6153]

Never did I think I would be hearing the questions asked that I have always wanted asked come out of a comedian 😂

[@musicgroopie1]

Post office is the same way. Either you fall in step as a manager or get demoted back to craft. Lower management in the Post office are ass puppets.

[@JSp4wN]

LOL! Dam bro, Tell us how you really feel... Lmfao!

[@unitedstateser243]

So 160,000 isn't enough? Maybe we need more patriots in there.

[@scottw403]

His secret agent CIA name was Jerry Curl.

[@Mr.Average1957]

.....and is being interviewed by Inspector Clouseau.

[@justinberg3616]

​@@Mr.Average1957 A Na51 j3w. Th3y 5acrificed their 0wn p30pl3 to have 15ra3l established. They're still waiting on their m355iah (the ant1-chri5t). That's why 50r05 is funding pro-pale5tine mov3m3nts. Th3y want t0 fulfill prophesy to usher in their "g0d" who will establish h15 unho1y k1ngd0m, and h3 w1ll betray 15ra3l.

[@robertacolarette1594]

@@Mr.Average1957 😆

[@BusyBeeFarmsAldenNY]

😂😂😂

[@sammiebateman8921]

You wrong for that 😂

[@tarad1851]

JFYI: the saying is “couldn’t care less” As in zero f$cks to give. Saying you “could care less” is like stating you still have some f&cks to give.

[@iceboys7404]

Super convo - thank you!

[@nav_man]

Some spies read news, others come to podcast 😂

[@Vicsory]

😂😂😂😂😂 Hahaha

[@Isaacmantx]

I smell a PsyOp.... I smell a PsyOp.....

[@user-eq8ui4ln4f]

"CHINA ARE YOU LISTENING" RUSSIA ARE YOU LISTENING" INVESTIGATE BIDENS

[@jamiegriffin1461]

How effective is a small gen like a honda 2000eu at charging? What if you hit the road equipped with one as well as 5 to 10 gallons of fuel?

[@jkbrwn]

What was the "got him" moment? I relistened like 5 times but didnt get it

[@davidkelly8145]

This dude is wearing a costume and is still actively in the CIA

[@user-uv5xn1xt6h]

thank you. i thought i was the only person

[@originalbinaryhustler3876]

Facts

[@originalbinaryhustler3876]

Media 5th Branch of the government

[@tomking7080]

Once in the agency,always in the agency. Isn’t that the case for all spies?

[@yonikki]

@@user-uv5xn1xt6h then you need to expand and explore your horizons, fellow doubter of government agencies

[@bballstrategy]

Schultz: Do you know James Baker? "Spy": Yes Meanwhile, his name is Mike Baker, so why didn't the spy correct him if he actually knows him?

[@MatuzaMortgages]

He said james.... explain moke...full name and agency position

[@JohnLakness]

James Addison Baker III was the US Secretary of State under President George H. W. Bush. So of course he would know who James Baker is, and then he just had to roll with the rest.

[@peteblaxmith]

Because spies dont just name names for no reason lol. it was stupid for Schulz to randomly name drop him.

[@AccountWithDumbThoughts]

“Maybe they do good things, maybe they do bad things”

[@salvadorcastillo7455]

Very correct! Benefits of privatization efficiency through incentives

[@kinghutt79]

"Right, right." Sure, I know him. Ol' James Baker. He's not even talking about the right guy, Mr. Intelligence! 😂

[@F1ght1ngIrish-]

There was literally a James baker in bush’s administration that’s probably who he thought Andrew was talking about

[@phoenixmodellingphotography]

​@@F1ght1ngIrish- Or more likely he knew who Andrew was referring to based off the memorable name Baker attached to "podcast CIA guy" and instantly knew who meant and didn't even catch the first name because Mike and James are such common names they're interchangeable. 90% of us would miss it but still know who he meant the same way if we were asked, "Baker the CIA podcast guy" is all the relevant information our brains need to pick up

[@grod9976]

Or you guys who are defending him are too stupid to realize that this guy isn’t a real spy lol. He talks too much. Says too much. He’s a clout chasing, internet fandom seeking idiot. 😂

[@raymondjoseph7177]

He speaks truth. Worked in government for 20 years. Held a TS. Made it relatively high up. The day i retired i had 3 6 figure job offers. I was in cyber and that area is HUGE now. Would've been rich in 5 years. Couldn't do it. Such a fucked up industry to work in. Much happier now. Talk to friends still doing it and their lives are miserable.

[@michaelversace456]

Private intelligence actually makes sense. The President can find a company they trust and for the Presidents term they become their own personal intelligence and then hands over classified information at the end. Then at the end they hand everything over to a vault of some kind.

[@markmalkovic]

You're a good man.

[@asparrow9876]

It pays to surveil the peasants for any sign of pushback.

[@BlahBlah-em2ed]

Anyone can pull a six figure job after a 20 year career in the military. Your experience for getting a job after service is not unique.

[@imfloridano5448]

Shhhh 🤫

[@felipebriseno799]

That guy does his own haircuts

[@Kimo2Time]

Bro is normalcy face front, chaotic in the back. Specifically divided.

[@therealred567]

Buddy took his cyanide tooth out for the interview😂

[@coodaman]

🦷☠🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@justinhankamer3693]

Bro!😂 I just asked wtf happened ... this makes sense

[@yattavick]

😂😂😂 I didn’t get it til about 2:15-2:30 and immediately died laughing. I believe it!! Lmao

[@Michael-en7of]

😂😂😂

[@geng8667]

🤣🤣🤣

[@QAAAA1212]

“Changed CIA”, and this dude still works for the agency.

[@ours1209]

Great convo!

[@shanemcdonald2587]

Especially when the boss changes constantly

[@philhall5682]

Props to Andrew for calling this dude out I loved it he and Mike Baker clearly work for cia still and it's all their assignment to do these interviews.

[@johnstraub7494]

I had a TS/SCI clearance, when I retired. If I had a job set up, that required me to maintain my clearance and it had to have a connection to the Federal Government. My clearance would still need to be renewed every 5 years. If I did not have that kind of job set up, my clearance would disappear after either 2 years or if the clearance were due to be renewed, say in 6 months, it would be done and over with. All these so-called intel experts you see on the news, should have had their clearances removed as soon as they retired. The only reason they were hired by the MSM is due to their clearances and access. Something they are legally not allowed to share with people who have no clearance.

[@donaldmartin4980]

Very true, I had a clearance for 36 years, as soon as you leave a position it goes into hibernation. If not reactivated within two years, the investigation will start from scratch instead of just an admin update ( SF86)..

[@Avatar7x7]

So why is this guy giving Trump credit for what's common practice according to you ?

[@Beastatbaseball9]

Bs

[@kevinparsley6806]

"The only reason they were hired by the MSM is due to their clearances and access. Something they are legally not allowed to share with people who have no clearance." ahhh thats what "on condition of anonymity" means.

[@StuckinNOVA]

@@Avatar7x7It is common practice but I think Trump may have expedited that process for specific people. Like Brennan.

[@generationxwithamcgamestop1245]

Look at how him tell you the FBI and the CIA are in Google and Facebook and Twitter and watching your every move😂

[@nkululekogoodhope7044]

I thought it was a two person interview😂

[@johncurran6031]

Another way of describing how he spoke of the two levels of workers in the CIA is the Iron Law of Bureaucracy. It is not limited to the CIA, it is in effect in all government organizations. "Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy states that in any bureaucratic organization there will be two kinds of people: First, there will be those who are devoted to the goals of the organization. Examples are dedicated classroom teachers in an educational bureaucracy, many of the engineers and launch technicians and scientists at NASA, even some agricultural scientists and advisors in the former Soviet Union collective farming administration. Secondly, there will be those dedicated to the organization itself. Examples are many of the administrators in the education system, many professors of education, many teachers union officials, much of the NASA headquarters staff, etc. The Iron Law states that in every case the second group will gain and keep control of the organization. It will write the rules, and control promotions within the organization." The second group are the ones who get to the GS-15 and SES levels of the civil service. NB: I worked in the federal government for 23 years. The rule is truly ironclad.

[@IAmTheRealBill]

Damn, I haven't seen someone reference that in a random YT thread until now. Well done!

[@gunsandcafe]

No lies detected. IYKYK

[@DeanCase-vc7yz]

😊😅😅

[@user-DrJoe-Future]

After working 43+ years in the military and Civilian Department of Defense, I can't argue with your assessment - pretty accurate. The GS 15s and SESs fit into that group very well.

[@MECopas]

@@user-DrJoe-Future You left out the govvies who are... over their head.

[@Krispy42]

Andrew explaining things to a CIA Spy is just funny to me

[@oftengone]

Dude thinks he’s smarter than he is fr

[@msimon6808]

@@oftengone McCoy, "The Politics of Heroin"

[@flyingwombatazazz6736]

No he is verbally confirming his thoughts to make sure he is following correctly. He is working through the process and taking the audience with him.

[@nasirjones-bey6565]

​@@flyingwombatazazz6736very astute observation

[@warrenpuckett4203]

Been briefed by State (CIA?) well that info was put on the back burner just in case. I just tried to figure out what would I do in the opponent's position. Well the probability is, that like me. They did not graduate from a Ivy League school.

[@telmesomethinidk]

“that cant tell its ass from its elbows” 😂😂

[@tajindersingh1279]

What podcast is this?? Name please

[@NotAnEvilPersian]

Oh, look it is the (not) former spy again on alternative media tour!

[@stephenhill4353]

Dude is everywhere in the last year and a half

[@SWest00072]

Keep staying stupid watching MSNBC and CNN then. SMH.

[@doublerainbow8169]

😂😂😂😂

[@mjpc5226]

The agencies are not missing the best, they’re losing the corrupt self-centered

[@artartful854]

Other way around.It's the trump style fascists that remained. If there is a deep state, trump and the magaroids are doing their work for them, pitting American vs American. That's the only way Rome fell. Trump is the prime example of the corrupt and self-centered.

[@trying3841]

YES!

[@zaco-km3su]

NO, they're missing the best. The best figured out the 45th was a leak and got out while they could or stayed behind and made sure he can't get access to intel.

[@insaniam_convertunt_scientiam]

@@zaco-km3suAnd you wonder why the public has no trust from its citizens. My question is; don’t you realize how this always ends?

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

Can you back any of this up with a source Senator Armstrong?

[@KateSimpkon]

I don’t trust any ex CIA unless he is a whistleblower

[@fx1883.]

Theres not a snowballs chance in hell this guy is legit hahahahahahahahahaha

[@kellywasden]

if he's on Shawn Ryan's show.. he's legit 100000%

[@jmcguire5151]

Why do you day that?

[@castanedadennis8750]

So that means you've worked in the intelligence industry 🤔 I gotta feeling your snowball is melted

[@M.F.Gamesta]

💯

[@DRPrice-ml7gl]

once CIA always CIA

[@PAMCMLXXXV]

The worst-case zero fade in the history of zero fades.

[@google_is_a_criminal]

"Heroes" here means "lying murdering law breaking psychopaths".

[@vambo13257]

Not many Jr. salespeople make $250K, probably less than 1%

[@BenWeeks-ca]

Maybe it's a little different if they're selling weapons, bombs and tanks.

[@malingajosephkirk1045]

😂​@@BenWeeks-ca

[@alfonzo9289]

Disban the Feds 💯

[@phnix6242]

Free for all Its still hust the wild wild west

[@Lockdown335]

So dense LOL "Let the countries who hate us run a train on me daddy T"

[@yuriydee]

So defund the police…?

[@alfonzo9289]

@@yuriydee no disban the FEDS

[@alfonzo9289]

@Lockdown335 if we disban the Feds each state can be fully in control of their own protection against foreign adversaries...

[@scottdahl1938]

Somebody asks me what I do I tell them I'm a retired janitor on holiday. Then I watch Jeopardy and spout out the answers in front of everybody else at the bar. Nothing to prove is good.

[@KIMCHACHING]

Guy said the corruption out load.

[@xlreneg4delx44]

This as terrifying on all the levels. Acting on behalf of a government without the checks and balances of any government.

[@brentwaits954]

The whole system has been corrupted

[@michaeldalton8374]

Yes. In about 1794.

[@harveyhams1572]

Security clearances is the key.

[@willgoubert5877]

dismantling agencies is a bad idea, the problem with privatized services is working for the highest bidder, no loyalty, principles, etc....

[@pab4435]

When suggested that he still works for CIA dudes body posture changed, he started blinking rapidly, and his face became obviously distressed. Until he leaned back and refocused his energy by grabbing the conversation into his hands, while making a movement with his hands that insisted he is now going to speak, also giving him a psychological boost he needed while his status was being called into question. He used his hands to put a temporary wall between the two of them, it helped him regain his composure

[@benjamindixon4825]

Dang nice catch !!!

[@andrewferguson8032]

I agree

[@Peace2U689]

Nah… he has heard that many times before.

[@doni9262]

All your psuedo reading of him, lol. I got news, he is no longer CIA, so you fail body language 101

[@hansmemling2311]

Man has psyching abilities apparently. Stick to flipping burgers or whatever it is you are doing.

[@Zaugger]

"Former CIA" isn't a part of my vocabulary 🧐

[@khazoury]

Former CIA, sounds like an oxymoron 🤣. Once you are part of the family, you can never leave! LOL

[@pamelasfauxpaintingatl228]

This guy is an active CIA agent. Even if he isn't on their "payroll". He is sanctioned. I'm shocked he wasn't seen in DC in the early beginning of Jan 2021, along with Ray E??s!

[@danielrichardson6054]

like female comedian@@khazoury

[@originalbinaryhustler3876]

@@danielrichardson6054

[@tomking7080]

@@khazouryIt’s like the Mob was a long time ago, Blood in Blood Out

[@MissMyMusicAddiction]

this might be the best, most insightful video i've seen in weeks

[@corymcewen5943]

This dude is now on the show Beyond Skin Walker Ranch.

[@johnqdoe8841]

Corporate America has it own good ole boy network. In my 20 years in corporate America confirmed this fact to me.

[@jeebusk]

Every country does...

[@willardswelding7243]

@@johnqdoe8841 ain’t that the truth. Spent 32 years in it. Saw some good people, saw a lot of shit float to the top.

[@erosionhead420]

Sideshow Bob is making the rounds.

[@The40yearolddork]

Funny how he calls them heros and yet they set people up to shut them up.

[@mikem2114]

Lots of inaccuracies in what's being said. Nuff said.

[@randyfarnsworth7825]

One thing for certain. Much of America has lost respect for CIA and FBI..

[@SnowTiger45]

@@randyfarnsworth7825 Only due to Trump's LIES and among weak-minded fools who are willing to believe the guy that comes in off the street rather than DECADES of knowledge from those "in the know". Like I'm going to believe a single word that Trump aka CHUMP says.

[@fatherrussell5303]

“Heroes,” he sees his former agency and himself as that.

[@THSBIAJKK]

He lost credibility with that, right at the beginning ...

[@Bond.JamesBond00]

sadistic sculptors are what I call them.

[@Catch_The_Irishman]

Right up there with the dancing covid nurses. The term "Hero" has lost its meaning sadly. Think exiting a Higgins boat on D-Day vs a dancing nurse.

[@psychicsusan67]

What a great interview!!!!

[@1776FREE2]

1:47 Thank you for that. In certain professions there is no such thing as "used to."

[@learnin-to-fly6307]

where does private intelligence get oversight and accountability? no more classified information...everything goes to the highest bidder

[@Zero2Black6]

Oversight and accountability are extreme hindrances when dealing with things that involve a covert or clandestine nature. You have to move quickly and a lot of times do things that blur the lines of morality if you want to accomplish a goal and it’s literally impossible to do that if every two seconds you have to check in with a lawyer or bureaucrat in DC and ask “hey is it ok if I do X”. This is why the private sector is so vastly ahead of the gov when it comes to the creation and adoption of technology. Intelligence gathering is no exception.

[@squibbelsmcjohnson]

Yah private military was a shit show in Iraq.. Now 10x that with collecting data and information and spying. Holy fuck... and basically zero accountability

[@DMFH2A]

I agree but, look at all the treason and federal crimes committed by politicians.... they are not held accountable and their allegiance goes to the highest bid.

[@IAmTheRealBill]

Where is government oversight? Private sector has market oversight. Government intel agencies don't even have actual Congressional oversight. It is all dog and pony "hearings" where the intel reps get in and say a lot of nothing - can't recall, won't say, don't have that info, etc.. And there is never any accountability for it. Hell, they can go into a hearing and lie their asses off and not even catch a contempt of congress charge. And just because you are not wise enough to know that selling out that info will cost you more than you got, doesn't mean professionals are.

[@handleistaken929]

Believe it or not, there are people that choose a career for something other than money.

[@kyledammann4284]

Dude said he knew Mike Brown without bro getting his name right.

[@_____7704]

Andrew Shulz rockin the 1940s haircut looks like he could have been an extra on Masters of The Air

[@giovanniramos849]

Do you know James Baker? Yes... real name is Mike lol

[@andrewferguson8032]

Mike Baker is the laughingstock on Joe Rogan