Flames Of Justice | FULL EPISODE | The New Detectives

. Arson murder cases are examined. Join forensics experts and criminal investigators to solve the case.
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Season 5 Episode 13: Sometimes, arson fires are set to cover a different, more heinous crime - such as murder. But killers are wrong to think that fire destroys all vital clues. Arson investigators can pull evidence from scorched rubble and ashes to ignite the unquenchable flames of justice.
The New Detectives is an American docudrama where world-renowned forensics experts and criminal investigators solve a wide range of cases.
Some scenes in this program have been reenacted, due to the sensitive nature of the show, viewer discretion is advised.

[@bcfb2989]

Dad didn't want to be a weekend father so he became a 50 year sentenced father. 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@patriciawickholm3617]

Horrible for the children to loose both parents, great place for the dirt bag to spend the rest of his life.

[@africanhistory]

women need to stop threatening men with taking their damn kids. At least where I am there is no gender preference. They only care about the welfare of the child and not which parent has a vagina.

[@johannas.l.brushane2518]

Yeah, I reacted to that as well. Him being an engineer and yet still one wonder whether you can see the other side if looking in one of his ears (nothing or plain p*ss between the ears).

[@MrNickelpenny]

11.41pm...m back as usual for my regular weekend pre sleep routine...whoevers reading this msg...I hope u and ur folks r healthy and happy...take care... love from India..🙂

[@Delphi_Primetime]

Happy Tikka Masala Day!!!

[@MissMcD]

Same to you and your folks...love from Dallas Texas.

[@MrNickelpenny]

@@MissMcD Thank you. That's very kind of you.

[@morganevans1772]

Love from Tennessee! I fall asleep to these videos lol

[@MrNickelpenny]

@@morganevans1772 ditto here...lol

[@amykrueger6024]

Thank you to any fire fighter, my childhood had a traumatic fire and I know they risk thier lives.

[@peggypeggy4137]

I can't believe that he only got 15 years for killing 2 fire fighters. They could have forced him to tell them who the arsonist was-- to get that light of a sentence.

[@cinemaparadiso5402]

It's ANTI-SEMITIC to support life saving measures.

[@binderkim]

Me too!

[@michaellysne8698]

i'm a firefighter myself

[@angeliamessex4340]

Wow 😳 she was literally going to kill her kids bc her husband wanted a divorce 😑 wth is wrong with people.

[@miapya2026]

Girlllll I said the exact same thing. The ppl in this life is really sick. WTH is correct. SMH #GOD REST THOSE CHILDREN

[@sherryhannah9262]

@@miapya2026 children are annoying they never quiet

[@Papadoxwife]

She killed 2 out of 3 of them! The only thing that saved the one that lived was because she didn’t listen to her mother (who told them to stay in their rooms) and jumped out of the window onto roof!

[@iso-didact789]

It's called feminism

[@KororaPenguin]

It's called spite.

[@tinaharris4082]

Lord rest those two firefighters, those two children and the wife in this series.

[@HeronCoyote1234]

Only 15 yrs in fed prison for killing two firefighters? Not nearly enough, imo.

[@raycearcher5794]

"'Cigs,' they believed, were cigarettes." Wow, good job cracking that inscrutable code, guys.

[@jamesyoung2656]

Lol

[@thishominid871]

Oh, if they only knew it was supposed to be cigarillos.

[@gyrgrls]

@@thishominid871 Close, but no cigar!

[@vivienfarrell52]

@@gyrgrlsmkkk lol Bbb

[@julieleach6668]

They might be telling overseas countries that a ciggies a cigarette because they might not know the term.

[@ronaldgould515]

My heart goes out to the firefighters

[@angeliamessex4340]

19:27 I’m already crying, she seemed a little calm for 2 of her kids being inside the house still 😤

[@cinemaparadiso5402]

She's an actress

[@brightonbabe2139]

Kate wasn’t expected to survive. The mother wanted all three to die to punish her husband. She told the children to stay in the room and because the trusted her they did. One of the most evil people ever.

[@deemacdonald5035]

She told her children to stay in their rooms and wait for firefighters help. Like that one daughter, I would've jumped too! A broken/sprained ankle is better than burns!

[@angiehibbs8238]

For someone that loves his kids so much sure was quick to risk their lives and leave them without either of their parents, smh

[@toforgetisagem8145]

I think they see their children as their property not as human beings.

[@jamestombs6892]

This is when i think that the death penalty should apply in certain cases.

[@Delphi_Primetime]

Like jaywalking, shoplifting and premarital sex.

[@stephanieden4]

@@Delphi_Primetime 👍👍

[@ronaldgould515]

Jail instead of divorce really?

[@karynesimble9223]

I use these videos to fall asleep too! Lakehills Texas

[@hrmtty]

Doesn't exactly inspire confidence that the fire inspector needed the arsonist's own notes in order to find the accelerants and, on top of that, needed the insurance company to find those notes.

[@Poochielou]

What a woman wicked telling the two children to stay in there room really how you fi tell children that and you know there is a fire smh she wanted them to die oh boy

[@gyrgrls]

Are you incinerating?

[@Poochielou]

@@gyrgrls the woman who tell the kids to stay in their room shes incinerated

[@jonwingfieldhill6143]

It certainly rates very low on the humanity scale to convince your child to stay in their room knowing full well you are going to kill them with the fire.

[@opheliajadefeldt9123]

@@Poochielou I had to ask my girlfrend wot this word is.....incinterating. How can amother do this to her children? Some messures of evil just can not be made.

[@Poochielou]

@@opheliajadefeldt9123 oh smh nuh true

[@whatwillbem6825]

Thanks for the upload 👍🏼 really enjoy these episodes...the forensics are so interesting ...a new subscriber

[@nickirito3435]

The minute I heard she told her kid to stay in his room and wait for help, I knew it was she that done wrong. My mom trained us kids how to get out if the house was on fire. How could a mom be that evil, I don't even understand and don't want to! When the investigators pointed out the walls, even I could see the pattern of the flames. These guys are really experts. I'm impressed with their investigative skills. Why they always put evidence in paint cans, I don't know. Its gotta be procedure...? Anyway, their attention to detail, very impressive.

[@tallgrasslanestitches6635]

They mentioned it in a different episode…when they put items in a pint can, it’s because they think there might be fumes/gases attached to those items, and they won’t to seal the item to prevent those fumes from evaporating before they can be tested.

[@wynottgivemore9274]

I totally agree with you about everything, but mainly that evil woman...not a mom. I feel for that one daughter left behind to grow up knowing what her mom had planned for her ,but she was smart enough to get out... Good on her,but so sad for the others,and Dad...😔

[@cherylbalicki5751]

They put them in cans I'f there are flamatory objects. It preserves all evidence

[@wynottgivemore9274]

@@cherylbalicki5751 yes i thought they explained that on the show...it also brings out the fumes more by trapping them . Its like opening up a jar or container of food,if you put your nose in and take a sniff your gonna get a real strong odor from whatever it is ,good or bad.😁

[@jetsetneil]

I cnt understand why some people are so selfish to kill their spouse who they share children with. The lives of these children are destroyed forever from the trauma and pain. So selfish!

[@angeliamessex4340]

The fact he killed his wife and burned the house with all of their and his children’s belongings in it is just insane, you could have divorced and your kids would have had their mom. Cases like that make me so sick to think people like him exist and have kids, I mean at least he saved his kids. I just have no words I mean wow. Burn everything you own bc your wife wanted a divorce now your kids will go without a mother and father. Smh

[@TashiH541]

Agreed. I feel similarly about the Lyle Gene Keidel case

[@ZieSpiralOut]

I like to talk about how little empathy serial killers must have to do what they do, but I don’t even think some of them could do what Deborah Green did. Condemning your young children to die in a fire, and also giving them instructions that would ensure their deaths. She didn’t just set it and leave. She made sure she told them to stay in their rooms. And since it was their own mom asking, of course they listened. She’s supposed to be the last person that would put them in danger, they would have trusted her words, even if they did see another way out. This is one of those cases that breaks your heart and leaves you infuriated.

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

All praise to the fire fighters! Hugely brave and unselfish heroes! 😊❤❤❤❤

[@noumi1971]

I simply luv this series.... ❤️❤️❤️

[@faimamuse1111]

In the 2nd case, Deborah Green also poisoned her husband. I watched an episode of Forensic Files with this case.

[@zuzellogan5613]

Excellent episode, and very well made. It is Incredible what people do when they set fires……it is a real tragedy. My heart goes to these and all firefighters dealing with these deadly fires, they too can become the victims of evil people. These firefighters are heroes in my book, true heroes. God bless them all for they great job they do.

[@JaneDoe-ij4ls]

Very very interesting, how the fire investigators use their experience -- and clues from the rubble -- to pinpoint telltale signs of how fires begin and spread!

[@janissauncy7019]

The second story is well documented by Ann Rule in her book "Bitter Harvest." Such a horrible story. I can't imagine any parent doing such an awful thing. I'm also pretty sure all three of the children were meant to die and that little girl is lucky to be alive. Green also tried to kill her husband with ricin. I'm always curious to see the incarceration status of these people so I did an inmate search of Debora Green and was glad to see she is still in prison (sometimes "life" doesn't always mean "life"). Her first chance at parole is 2035. Hopefully she doesn't get it.

[@TashiH541]

Michael Farrar died in September 2023 of suspected ryson aftereffects.

[@janissauncy7019]

@@TashiH541 Oh, wow. I hadn't heard that.😥

[@marygoff3332]

​@@TashiH541God, how sad.

[@WkdWnch007]

It's so helpful to Law Enforcement the people who commit these crimes do not do their homework, specifically watch shows such as these

[@johnnabuzby6103]

The second case was featured in the Forensic Files episode Ultimate Betrayal.

[@Beatriz-lj2td]

How many crimes like this one where never solved ,Forensic work likes these is so fantastic but not all countries have this luxury....There are lots of crimes done in the world in the present.Human coincidence is lost when evil invade this minds and hearts ..They should paid with their own lives really!! when she or he confess.

[@kenney1050]

Sadly with every acrimonous divorce half of the time its the children who become the pawns...who become victims not either of the parents. Its like in failed relationships where one partner kills the other "if i cant have you no one can" so it is with divorces where a partners revenge towards the othet is to physically harm the fruit of their "the love they once had for each other". So sad really...

[@daviddoyle515]

That Evil woman that killed her kids in the house fire should burn in Hell

[@johnnabuzby6103]

Ohhh she will...don't worry about that.

[@laurelgirard8475]

Fifteen years for two deaths? No way!! He should have gotten the same as for murder. If it was a burglary gone wrong he would have, so why not an arson?

[@terrygause29653]

Probably because he hadn’t forced the firemen into the building and they shouldn’t have gone inside.

[@HankandBrutusLiveForever]

33:40 The look on the Actress' face that plays Deborah Greene, when she gets busted 😂😂😂

[@garyc39]

Never use an accelerant to start a fire.Fire investigators pick up on that right away.

[@mmkr0000]

Only 15 years for killing two firefighters? This is no justice.

[@JlerCebu]

Is it safe to say that Divorce is the number one killer for married people?

[@binderkim]

It amazes me how these criminals leave paperwork of their crimes just lying around! Not a very smart criminal.

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

Love the new detectives! 😅

[@chehrenama463]

The sound track is very loud.

[@henryklassen3362]

With all the new tools and gadgets the investigators have now days, why would people still try to fool them.

[@pickledragonrebel]

Ignorance

[@jupitercyclops6521]

As made obvious in the restaurant story where a jury convicted the guy with no evidence, I think it's more a matter of having a crooked conviction system where defendants don't stand a chance regardless of the states "evidence"

[@carlwilliamsaxton2146]

A mother killing her own children, because her husband was an idiot cheater. so sad

[@jeanprice2514]

I believe in justice. I believe that Debra Green should have gotten the death penalty, by setting her on fire. That's justice.

[@tommyhemlock7915]

That might be why she pleaded guilty rather than risk a trial. Not sure it should be that easy to escape the death sentence in cases like that one.

[@sherryhannah9262]

Jean Price you are mean rude hateful and disrespectful

[@TashiH541]

In any state but Alaska, Kansas and Idaho (she was in Kansas) Debra Green would have been found criminally insane and locked in a forensic hospital for life.

[@theranjithjay]

Cannicicut- 1994 Firefighters were called to the house of Wendy and Lance but Wendy died in the fire and husband said his wife was a smoker and may have dropped her cigarette on the floor or bed. The autopsy found the 29 year old Wendy did not have any smoke in her lungs and was already dead before the fire.

[@cynthiatolman326]

How many husbands kill their wives and the set fire around them? Seems I've seen so many on many. She was convicted for poisoning her husband with ricin as well. She'd become an alcoholic with major depression and had threatened to kill the children before he'd get them.

[@redheadsarenotdeadred4562]

The husbands were asked why save your wife 1st, their answer: we can always have more children. Chilling, just chilling. Please keep in mind this survey was done in late 90's.

[@annc.3908]

You’re supposed to love and take care of your Spouse first, then your children. Have you never heard this before? Keeping United for survival is the first step to making a family. They don’t tell you this as general info, they make too much money off your many marriages and divorces. Morality has been eradicated to make $$.

[@fatemaalbalooshi1980]

Many have commented on how these criminals do stupid things like leaving papers and notes, don’t forget that there is a bigger force that causes the cleverest criminals to make these mistakes. I am saying this because I watch these episodes every night and in each case so far the criminal makes the most stupid mistakes. I truly believe that there is a higher justice accompanying investigators and the forensic team in their pursuit. Also how could they give the restaurant owner 15 years only … two innocent fire fighters died, I am really stunned 😧

[@nowayjose8174]

Blah blah blah you sound generated

[@redheadsarenotdeadred4562]

Survey done a couple years ago asked to couples: if your spouse and kids were drowning at the same time, who would you save 1st. Wife: i would save my children 1st. Husband: i would save my wife 1st. I remember a celebrity responded to the question, they said " i would jump into water, swim pass my husband's ass in order to save my children 1st.

[@bcfb2989]

I'd swim right past my husband to get to my children. Then I go to my husband and put the kids on his back and use him as a floatation device to help bring my kids to shore.🤣

[@marygoff3332]

Our natural instinct is to save helpless children first. Adults? You're on your own!

[@Poochielou]

Wow what a woman awful smh

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

This Debra Green is diabolical! 😮

[@clairebear206]

We might say “eff the police” but you NEVER hear anyone say “eff the fire department” 😅 they’re the hero’s!

[@marygoff3332]

😊

[@JaneDoe-ij4ls]

Kill or harm my kids?! Never, ever, ever, not for love nor money.

[@pickledragonrebel]

D green also poisoned her husband with caster beans

[@ZieSpiralOut]

Considering how heat rises and all, would that last fire really be the work of a pro arsonist??

[@INDLIS]

There’s a good chance that he is

[@wynottgivemore9274]

Why don't we have a justice system that says, to the convicted criminal if you do not want to tell us who your accomplice/accomplices were then you'll just serve their time as well,and in the case of murder,and being found guilty beyond any doubt by a jury of their peers, if they do not disclose he location of the body /bodies then they will just stay in jail indefinitely. That one I guess would only apply to the ones that don't get the death penalty. By the way,I believe that if someone plans and carries out a murder in cold blood, and for no other reason than to gain personal wealth or achieve a higher platto ...there is no place other than in the dirt for that said person/and no reason for them to be breathing. And of course others that kill for the simple thrill,or in the course of rapeing and or abuse of and utter lack of respect for human life can go for a dirt nap as well. There are I'm sure several other types that should also. And one of these days reasonable people should figure that out,that it is it murder to put to death an individual that he made a choice of kill ,they have forfeited they're right to walk this earth.and in no way should a society have to pay for their incarceration for the rest of their lives. Nor a substitute grave,just a case off ashes to ashes.also ,lets get back to public hangings... Ps no lynching this time. Or at not yet. Lol!

[@angeliamessex4340]

Did anyone else catch about 46:00 where they go to talk to the girlfriend about his whereabouts the night of the fire and they are in the restaurant that burned down 😶😂I think someone made a mistake there lol

[@iso-didact789]

@Angelia Messex "Thought we wouldn't notice but we did." -Tony Stark

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

Sounds like Dr Green should have not given up her practice to be a full time mom! 😢

[@kathleenbemis9676]

Lance Wargo showed no emotions when he was first questioned. No pain in his voice. No tears rolling down his face. I knew that he was responsible for his wife's death. Very sad. 😞 Again, Deborah Green also showed no emotions. No screaming for her son & daughter that were still inside the house. No crying and no concern whatsoever about her 2 children's predicament, in the blazing inferno of fire inside their home.

[@wynottgivemore9274]

I've mentioned this before to other commenters...not real actual event,these are actors ,the poor guys that meet you people in public better beware,that they might get a beating for playing the part of a killer. Seriously so many people get caught up in these shows,and try to judge the actors for their acting,and usually their names are changed to protect the innocent,such as children. ACTORS...😉😀😃

[@INDLIS]

Green also tried to kill her estranged husband Michael Farrar with Castor Beans (which contained Rison) prior to the murders. Even though he survived, he was maimed for life

[@augustbernard3396]

We have no idea how they behaved. Those are actors.

[@samanthagomez7074]

IK Right Crazy Man For Real

[@stevenlarose7325]

Do people really know how hard it is to start a FIRE with a cigarette? And fire-resistant stuff becomes an EXELERANT after it is on fire...

[@abbyarnold4477]

I love it when those killer husbands go to prison for hurting their wife's .

[@psycho-fit3630]

all the way from Kenya who else doesn't understand why we are addicted?

[@dmrenterprizes4101]

Who tells their children to stay in a burning house?

[@filliusawusi6174]

Binadamu..Human beings in the language of Swahili Are Lions dressed up has Reindeer.. ( A number are ) You Never Know.. Be Careful Out there folks..

[@monicalewisky4925]

Kabisa

[@fatemehmaryam2419]

Basically wolf in sheep's clothing. The deer one is a great analogy as well.

[@bosabarbosa1795]

Wait a minute; on the last case that the restaurant/bar owner arranged to have the place set on fire, got "only 15 years"? What about the 2 deaths? He won't pay the price for that? REALLY??? He got away easy; only 15 years!!!

[@patsilk9248]

Chemical engineer, say no more.

[@bernimunro1299]

This woman is still in prison

[@yup_its_ME.512]

I just wish the narrator's voice was higher than...everything else! Even the firefighter truck's engine brake is louder than narrator!!

[@lizette87]

Great and interesting video. But the background music and the loud talking interfere with the narrator's voice. And my coffee depraved brain didn't first notice the transition from one case to another 😅

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

Screams of arson and accelerants 😢

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

6000 sq ft home ! That’s a bit excessive ! And it went up quick and never touched the master bedroom ! Screams of accelerants ! 😢

[@gdeec]

Aged 30ish, with 2 kids and a humdrum life, he was definitely eating pie elsewhere.

[@theoryofpersonality1420]

So they don't know who the accomplice is? It seemed obvious to me the accomplice was the same woman who called him and gave him an alibi and also paid the insurance. More Information would be nice.

[@leanderrowe2800]

In the second case, I can't understand why she killed her children. No matter what happens, it's never the children's fault.

[@verenaisiculai3058]

The emotional cost of a divorce is something MONEY can't afford the only emotional price is your dwelling forever four square little hole-JAIL

[@INDLIS]

If anyone had seen Forrest Utter AKA Biff speaking to this mystery man (possibly his accomplice), why didn’t anyone provide a description of him?

[@iso-didact789]

For case 3 they should've threatened his and his bitch's life to get him to tell them who he hired.

[@helensieben3182]

Something like Bret Seacat the police officer, he planned it at work

[@corneliawissing7950]

First case: who were the children given to, to care for? I take it that there was no insurance payout?

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

Dr Debra Green! What happened to “ First Do 😮no harm”?!!!

[@windyhicks3319]

Audio ...can't hear it

[@MissMcD]

SPOILER....14:51 i must say of all things that investigators could have found smh....i mean dang he almost came out of the investigative wash totally clean!! smh this was a careless fk up but at least she got justice smh

[@voraciousreader3341]

Do you get dizzy from so many “smh”???

[@MissMcD]

@@voraciousreader3341 i have a bad habit of that. I often have to go back and delete some when writing. I see this one i didnt proofread. 😂

[@peterjongsma2779]

@@MissMcD SMH at all your SMHds.

[@bcfb2989]

@@voraciousreader3341 🤣🤣😂

[@bcfb2989]

@@peterjongsma2779 😂

[@saudiranger4007]

6:33 that was an ideal law

[@bdml77]

15 years??? Seriously???

[@darsongsify]

People really think they will get away with murder? Maybe 75 years ago they could but definitely not in this day. You will get caught, maybe not immediately, but it will happen. More people need to watch these shows so they do not even think one thought of murdering someone. If this doesn't keep your thoughts straight, I don't know what will.

[@aishacarter2890]

So bold to do the crime. But lying because you don't want to do the time. Well you got caught.

[@ronaldgould515]

Restaurant must of had shitty pizza

[@iso-didact789]

@Ronald Gould #fnaf

[@mitchstone56]

If I were to do something like that, I wouldn't hand over the actual clothes that I was wearing!

[@nhanha7433]

Stay in the room. Rather find way to get out the outside

[@bobbyongsueco6515]

174th. January 20. 2022 Philippine time. 5:25pm

[@noc1891]

arson to commit insurancefraud that lead to 2 firefighters dying and only get 15y? o.O

[@ccyang7039]

AS If anyone going to believe her that she couldn't get the children out! When she got out her self! And Told the the to stay and wait for Help🤦‍♀️ No if there's a fire your going to take your family out or child or animals out ect... 🤷‍♀️What a Sick! Women!

[@ObsidianJake]

I'd just like to point out as someone who's worked in a restaurant, that to me it seems like the most obvious place to set the fire would be near the fucking deep fryer not in the ceiling

[@gigifotiou3360]

He would rather commit murder for his kids now he lost them for good ....😢😡

[@samanthagomez7074]

Wow 5 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹 Horrible Story Poor Innocent Wendy And Children's 🙏🙏👩‍🚒🚒🙏👩‍🚒🚒I Hope They Never Gets Out From Prison What They Did Crazy People's For Real

[@scotishjohn]

Make notes leave notes to be found get captured haha

[@suerichards47]

Didn’t want to be a weekend father? Now a non father.

[@bokani79]

People don’t usually burn to death especially from a cigarette but

[@samsngdevice5103]

To skip the ads, drag the progress bar to the end and then hit the replay button. Your welcome.

[@amykrueger6024]

some ads are so annoying ppl will fr ty for this

[@pianomanhere]

This frequently still does not work on this and many other videos.

[@samsngdevice5103]

Yes it does.

[@pianomanhere]

@@samsngdevice5103 no. It doesn't always work. I've tried it on this video and many others.

[@pianomanhere]

@John Hackmann yeah, that's true, but I'm a literal Boomer, old enough (mid-50's) to actually enjoy bitching about things. 😁

[@shadodragonette]

Who can do this? As I watch these videos I feel I am the person with a screw loose, because I don't understand how anyone could do this. Seems I didn't get the "kill people" gene. I'm not pretending to be a saint, I mess up all the time! But these were obviously not just mistakes. The poor kids. I watch these videos because I am very very grateful there are people out there solving these crimes. I might be better off learning to bake brownies to take to them, but I don't know if they would be allowed to accept them. I am pretty sure I read somewhere that they aren't supposed to accept gifts, it might be seen as bribery. Still, I don't want their hard work to ever be forgotten.

[@TDMstevo]

When he lit the cigarette, all I heard was Dwight Schrute: “Today, smoking is gonna save lives...”