Flaperons - Taranis Q X7

2 methods for programming flaperons and elevator compensation on a 3 position switch using OpenTX and the Taranis Q X7 transmitter. My Bixler 2 has full span ailerons instead of separate flaps.
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[@Idefix70]

Thanks Andrew! After a couple of years flying quads, it is nice to go back to aircraft and see how you can do this with pro's and con's of both methods!

[@engled2000]

Any time I want to do something I haven't done before with my Taranis I always check you channel first. Your no no nonsense way of showing how to do something is unparalleled.

[@BikingVikingHH]

Darryl Engle there is also a limey British m8 that does a great, and super in depth how to’s with FrSky, “painless360” I believe is the channel. I find it overwhelming though, so I always come back to Mr Newton.

[@engled2000]

@@BikingVikingHH I like Painless360 but I always look to Andrew first to solve my RC problems.

[@AndrewNewton]

Keep it simple for us simple folk

[@campraincloud]

I love seeing the different uses and methods for mixing in openTX. good stuff!!

[@CradyLab]

Automatically adding a bit of down elevator trim with the flaps is a neat trick, Andrew. I'll have to remember that one

[@AndrewNewton]

You do have to be careful and not add too much

[@loc4725]

Don't fly & try! When setting up flaps set the value of pot S1 to appear on one of the displays and also have it as a += source for the elevator in the mixer when SB- is selected. Next fly to height, engage flaps and adjust the pot - you may have to engage & disengage the flaps several times (to recover) before getting it 'dialed in'. Next land, read off the value of S1 and replace S1 in the mixer with MAX and the value from the display.

[@AndrewNewton]

I'll have to try that. A more mathematical approach.

[@DeeJayEll]

Thanks Andrew. I think you’ve just saved my bacon here. I spent 10 minutes trying to land my glider yesterday!!! I’ve got spoilerons now. 😁

[@AndrewNewton]

Glad it helped

[@thecraftking113]

More qx7 tricks and tips are always nice to see thanks 😁

[@robertz5958]

Cheers Andrew Thanks once again for giving your time to make yet another very clear and very helpful video! I have an ASW28 that will now be getting the Flaperon treatment this afternoon!! Cheers!! Robert

[@G7GTI]

Excellent video Andrew, you made it simple to follow ! Thanks for videos like this as it lets us get the best out the radio, next up I need to crack the lipo voltage sensor 😎👍 thanks again

[@AndrewNewton]

You are welcome!

[@blackmennewstyle]

Pretty cool video :) Will share it with my buddies here in Thailand who are flying airplanes with an OpenTX radio :D Have a great weekend and keep on flying!

[@CradyLab]

Sawasdee krap, Cedric man

[@blackmennewstyle]

@@CradyLab Sawasdee krap Cradyman :) Have a great weekend!

[@AndrewNewton]

Nice one Cedric, hope it useful

[@stofffpv3128]

perfect timing..just learning to use qx7..and was just gonna search youtube on how to do this

[@AndrewNewton]

Welcome Stoff

[@grumpyjohntxredneckrc6346]

Great Info Andrew! Thanks

[@BikingVikingHH]

Thanks Andrew! But you didn’t show how to mix in the elevator to the flaperons using the first method, which I’ll be attempting to utilize. I’m sure I’ll figure it out, but I’m guessing your expertise will help ;)

[@AndrewNewton]

The method I showed works for both. Otherwise just assign MAX and weights of maybe 3 and 5 for SB- and SBv switch positions in the Elevator mix

[@antonblebann6823]

Very complex, seems You are a Master of Everything 😁👍🏻

[@AndrewNewton]

Too kind Anton

[@antonblebann6823]

@@AndrewNewton You're welcome, THX.

[@DB4MV]

Thanks Andrew, great explanation, I finally understand how to delete any entries in the Taranis Q X7 "Input" page and do all settings in the "Mixer" page only. I followed your instructions and it just worked fine. The only differrence: I needed to set up spoilerons on my glider. I guess that for spoilerons the elevator compensation needs some uptrim instead of downtrim. Right? I will see next weekend (hopefully). Greetings from Germany, I have learned a lot from your tutorials in the past two years.

[@AndrewNewton]

Inputs do nothing unless you use them in the mixer page. Spoilerons dont need elevator compensation usually.

[@DB4MV]

@@AndrewNewton Thanks for your very fast response. I will follow your advice.

[@JamesHurd]

Good Video and nice and easy to follow even I managed it thanks Andrew

[@AndrewNewton]

You could probably use it on you wild and windy sites.

[@lokaero]

Hi sir. Similarly can you do another video on mixing flaperon. But here, when flap is engaged the opposite side should also reach full throw. In this video tutorial the opposite direction does not move to its full limit when flaps are engaged. Can u do this? Is it possible to do a mix like that?

[@Tsacchi94]

@lokaero exact same issue here. I wonder if you found a way to get around this

[@patterdalebt]

Just set up my flepperons (jumper T-Lite pro)and have followed your clear details. I know it must be a simple explaination but what chanel do I assign for the elevator (mode 2) or do I assign and alternative chanel for the other aileron. Your continueing support is much appreciated. Cheers Colin FIrby

[@AndrewNewton]

Choose any spare channel, but it's a good idea to come up with your own standard channel assignment. For separate ailerons I use Ch1 and 2, Thr on Ch3, Ele on Ch4 and Rud on Ch5

[@patterdalebt]

@@AndrewNewton Once again thanks for all your help. Colin

[@austntexan]

Andrew, do you have a video that goes over full span aileons? For some reason I'd thought you'd done on of those on your gliders at some point?

[@Freebird_67]

I am going to try this on my Mini Talon. I will probably need elevator up a bit with MT because using flaparons on this plane makes the MT want to dive but im thinking just 25% flaparons and maybe 10% elevator up

[@AndrewNewton]

Sounds good. It's interesting how some pitch up and some pitch down with flaperons

[@Freebird_67]

Andrew Newton yes it is especially with the mini talon it has a tendency to act more wing in a flap situations

[@marc_frank]

i use the thottle stick on my dlg for both flaps and spoilers but i don't want neutral in the center i want neutral to be at -100 "throttle" and choose with a 2 pos switch if the effect will be flap or spoiler do you have a pointer how to do that?

[@AndrewNewton]

Good question Marc. Which transmitter do you use? I'll do a video on it.

[@marc_frank]

@@AndrewNewton wow, thanks a lot :) i'm using the tx16s i also put a motor in the dlg and use a slider to control that

[@bruceharnden5742]

Andrew, great videos.. question , I have a kopilot lite in one of my crafts. Been studying this video; applying some experimental changes. No Luck. I'm sure you are very busy but if you could help, well YEA AND Awesome. If you don't have time , I certainly understand.

[@AndrewNewton]

Cant do flaperons with Kopilot unfortunately.

[@bruceharnden5742]

Andrew , neglected to mention; I have the left aileron plugged into ail on kopilot and the right aileron into the AUX on the kopilot .

[@bruceharnden5742]

I started that way. Did this work for you?

[@kendallpayne5979]

I'm curious why you prefer the first method (using MAX as the source) over the 2nd? I also saw your earlier video doing flaperons with a Turnigy 9XR where you used the 2nd method only. Is there something about using MAX as the source that works better?

[@AndrewNewton]

I think it's because with the second method you always have to adjust the offset as well as the weight and you only get half and full programmed weight. With the first method you have total control over each switch position and no offset needed.

[@kendallpayne5979]

@@AndrewNewton Thanks for the reply! I'm setting up a new model with a QX7 right now, so this video was perfect timing!

[@XrossRider]

I`m grateful, Thank you very much :D

[@AndrewNewton]

Thanks for the suggestion Martin. Seems to be a popular subject

[@blackbirdboy1]

I may be being a bit thick, but have you done a video on a basic Flap mix with 3 pos switch that adds down elevator in it to stop the ballooning? I have my Flaps on a Y-Lead. I'm rubbish with open Tx, so would like the radio way of doing it. Thanks in advance.

[@AndrewNewton]

Yes I'll do that very soon. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@blackbirdboy1]

@@AndrewNewton Cheers, I had my only Flap plane (HK Walrus) on my old Turnigy 9XR and that has gone pop. Now I need to bind it to my Taranis but have never set up flaps on this and have no idea where to start

[@richardlong3615]

Hi Andrew, Great video as always. Is there a way of temporarily assigning the elevator compensation to a potentiometer so that you can trim the compensation in flight and then use that value in a permanent setup?

[@AndrewNewton]

I think LoCs comment might answer this. Not something I have ever tried.

[@richardlong3615]

Yes it does - Thanks for help.@@AndrewNewton

[@WX4CB]

nice thanks... any chance you can do a short video on how to automatically add down elevator on throttle up (via a switch)

[@AndrewNewton]

Yep, no problems. Added to the list.

[@WX4CB]

@@AndrewNewton awesome thanks. been trying to figure it out as my night radian wants to go ballistic on launch (and no it's not a CG issue)

[@AndrewNewton]

It's a Radian design feature, same with the 3 ch.

[@endliberalism4305]

How are you changing left and right ailerons when the two servos are on a Y harness ?

[@AndrewNewton]

Not an a Y harness

[@endliberalism4305]

@@AndrewNewton my ailerons all work off of 1 channel, the Y harness plugs into a single channel so how are you splitting this up with one channel ?

[@endliberalism4305]

@@AndrewNewton can you kindly explain how you get ailerons out of a channel without using a Y harness ? I am having a difficult time making this work for me because I only use a single channel for ailerons. Thank you

[@AndrewNewton]

@@endliberalism4305 Cant do it with one channel, watch the video, it is explained there.

[@MikeMcCarty6453]

Thank you

[@JimmyHusain]

Do I need both ailerons to be connected to the receiver? I'm using a Y cable right now.

[@AndrewNewton]

Yes, each aileron needs a channel

[@snowballfpv7583]

Great video . Would you put this on a wing ? ( mini ar wing )

[@AndrewNewton]

No, wouldn't work on a wing. It would just dive into the ground

[@billscottuk]

Which model of Q7 is that you'e using? Mine doesn't have the slider on the left side

[@AndrewNewton]

The Newton Airlines special. That's my hack.

[@billscottuk]

@@AndrewNewton that would be really great for an e-soarer as throttle instead of having to use flight modes

[@snickers.mcflurry]

Shouldn't your elevator go up when your flaperons go down? Looks like both were going down.

[@AndrewNewton]

Most planes (but not all) pitch up when you drop flaps or flaperons. What would you do with the elevator to counteract pitching up?

[@snickers.mcflurry]

@@AndrewNewton I've never used flaperons (or flaps). It seems counter intuitive because the ailerons have the reverse effect.

[@snickers.mcflurry]

All that said, I'll trust you on that of course.

[@sachidanandbogra6693]

Hi Andrew please let me know how to set spoiler with elevator mixing I qx7tranis radio

[@AndrewNewton]

Just the same a flaperons but with negative weight

[@sachidanandbogra6693]

@@AndrewNewton thanks Andrew

[@The_Pub_]

This is one of the reasons THAT I prefer Companion,. Quicker,,, Easier,,, And great for a Setup,, Don't want to be doing this in the field.. Fine adjustments maybe! Transmitter battery will be dead before you fly!!!