FLASH vs BISU 6 Games Series 2024 - Starcraft Broodwar

[@LuckyStilet1]

One of reasons why Flash doing old build - he need feel on his own why meta has been changed.

[@dantedelgadillo7090]

Wow nice discernment 👍🏼

[@ManCubuSSC]

Those terran weaklings allowed meta to change in favor of other races now it's up to FlaSh to save their sorry asses!

[@nicksterba]

This is a good point. I imagine Flash will go through the meta naturally from where he was last, then he'll eventually get up to date with current meta, and then he'll likely innovate and evolve the meta. Super stoked to see how his tactics change over time.

[@godynnel7680]

Have watched the arty flash casts, so appreciate you clarifying up front. Great casting 👍

[@LuckyStilet1]

49:50 HAHA "I feel like Flash might have just done it" :D Statement to protoss with max Carriers 2-1-1 about to 3-1-1

[@fangedcow12345]

protoss good race. your choice of APEMAN with zealot a-move. Or use Invisible Man - fun and interactive. Or if bored back to A-move with big carrier. Highly intellectual and skill-based race.

[@ryanjuguilon213]

​@@fangedcow12345yeah. Feels like you need to thinks instead of mindlessly clicking. Feels like you need to establish map control and expand like crazy while terran sit on their asses on 3 bases. Feels like ypu have to pressure early game pr terran can get ahead if no damage. Feels like you have to move out, have your army in the map and estsblish map control. Terran? Plant mines thats their map control. Oh and have copious tears and be basement dweller. Perfect terran whiner

[@yangpaan453]

@@ryanjuguilon213 you just listed everything terran has to do as well, excpet its harder to control terran units because siege tanks need to siege and be manually targetted on goons, and vultures need to be microed away from zealots and plant their mines in safe spots or you risk killing your own army. protoss can freely take the map because you're economically ahead from minute 1 because scvs need to be sacrificed to build things while a single prob can build everything. your mid/late gameplay consists of 1a2a3a4a into the army and then remaxing instantly because you control the entire map. lets not pretend like protoss is complex, it just takes a lot of macro practice.

[@ryanjuguilon213]

@@yangpaan453 harder to control? Just one click and they siege up. You need to control shuttles, run you zealots past vultures, spread you dragoons, position you slow ass templars and storm decent target. Terran is the most vanilla race. Once you get 3-3 they obliterate expensive higher psi protoss units except for carriers. And just imagine a world without defiler. Terran does not need gas in this match up, can obliterate all zerg units except ultras. And hell ultray countered by cheap mines

[@yangpaan453]

@@ryanjuguilon213 ok so you must be low rank. No terran sieges everything in 1click. When you're moving across the map they bunch up. You have to keep them spread while theyre moving and anticipate the protoss' attack and stagger sieges to make sure they dont clump together, otherwise a couple storms can reset your siege tank count, which is way harder to replenish than a protoss army. All of the micro that you listed, terran has to do, but harder. Pro protoss will even storm groups of vultures because it's so efficient. Imagining a world without defiler is an irrelevant strawman argument, because there is no world without defiler. There isnt a pro in this game that believes protoss is harder to control than terran. This is also why terrans retire to wrist injury on average sooner than any other race. You're arguing against a statistical fact here and you clearly have no clue what youre talking about.

[@dworsham4540]

On game #5, Bisu had a goon to be able to kill that last marine but he didn't kill it. That game was on the fate of that marine staying alive

[@dual5ivese7ens]

This is when Gods of War go to battle, Bisu and Flash what a pleasure to watch them duke it out, thank u Saiyan-san.

[@andreilukyanov4286]

Watching this move with carriers + High Templars, man, that was exciting

[@anthonyc719]

Omg no way… I didnt think I could enjoy my daily BW videos more. Leave it to Flash

[@IntoTheClouds7]

Bro, I’m so happy you’re doing these. SayinSC FTW

[@pandabearguy1]

Sick series. Bisu is a monster PvT these days

[@susugam3004]

new watcher: you say "here" a FUCKLOAD, brother. i'm 10 minutes in and it's all i can HEAR. it's almost every sentence

[@SaiyanKCM]

Hmm I'll be mindful of that thanks

[@w0pke]

​@@SaiyanKCMtbh I never really noticed it until that comment. I do think over half of the time it doesn't add value to what you've already said.

[@LuckyStilet1]

1:19:06 Protoss rly should build proxy shield battery on Terran 4th base to block it and rechurge shuttles / reavers.

[@utarian7]

BROOO even though I root for protoss pros I really do think they're dumb now. They dont' have any fuckin creativity. They do proxy shield in zealot rushes, why not proxy shield for reavers/shuttles and carriers!?

[@davidorawe3931]

Flash leaving the scene was one of the best things that happened to the game. Flash coming back is one of the best things that could've happened to the game.

[@SaiyanKCM]

Everything that happened happened and could have happened any other way. Why? Because we are still alive

[@arturasmarma525]

Press Shift + Tab 2 times it will change your collors to teal and oponent to red.

[@SaiyanKCM]

oh I know I just don't like seeing the exact same color every game

[@mikazou979]

Verry good serie thx man !

[@michailvolski5035]

gotta love bisu

[@herpaderp2191]

Flash is getting slapped around. He's playing very well but will he become an unbeatable god again? Seems doubtful at the moment. Maybe he'll just be a really really good top level pro.

[@sblingfun]

Boosting the algo!

[@fangedcow12345]

The weird supply depots are likely bc it helps funnel zealots into small clumps for splash.

[@dizietz]

That taxes joke :) :)

[@jamesrobbins3117]

Yeeeeaaaa buddy hey that tax yarn is some good shit. Hammering us with those SC B QQ drops loud and clear buddy!

[@acherontic4958]

You have very funny merch :D As a noob: Can you explain what is a "gasless expansion"?

[@alexkrass3260]

Gasless as terran: you buy supply depot, barracks, command center and only then put down a gas, with a plan to use marine within a bunker to deflect dragoon pressure It's a big contrast to factory first play when you get gas early and get factory and then a tank or vulture + mines to defend Gasless (bunker expand) is more money but slower tech and less units early

[@acherontic4958]

@@alexkrass3260 thanks mate!

[@CTMotivational]

40% Taxes 😂😂😂

[@MARPSTE]

I gotta say man, you're actually doing better than Artosis with these Flash videos

[@bortbreadface6259]

The coffers are used to improve the roads, I think you meant pockets lmao Also, we dont really fund our military with our taxes, it all goes to expensive government vacations and tax breaks for the rich company owners, so the politicians can get cushy do nothing big paying jobs at those companies when they leave office. Does flash own a Siege Tank factory ? Or an ASL championship buisiness ?

[@LuckyStilet1]

G1 looks very sad. Terran can move 2 buildings to 3d base entrance and just block it. Is it something new, that protoss trying prevent Terran 3d from high ground? This map absolute different story, when Terran secured 3d and approaching max.

[@MARPSTE]

Where's the link to the BSL challenge videos?

[@SaiyanKCM]

BSL challenge video coming out today

[@sylvariatzaka]

As a Canadian, AMEN. Taxation is theft hahahaha.

[@juandiegogamboa1396]

kriptowar!!

[@zdenekmatula550]

Thanx for a vid man!

[@spinvn]

You called "Flash might have done it" twice, to the opposite result. You seem to not understand the dynamics of the game once Protoss gets to critical mass of Carriers. As long as Protoss has 10+ Carriers and 1 base mining, they always have a chance. And even in some extreme case, 10 Carriers with 0 base mining and a decent mineral bank is enough. Mini once won a game with 100 supplies against a maxed out Royal on 5 bases.

[@SaiyanKCM]

"Well he got critical mass, games over." Doesn't make for very good commentary.

[@janpaulbusch1437]

“Might“ have done it.....

[@marc-etiennemercier6584]

Bro u keep talking about Flash and ASL. Do u have intel on his return date to ASL or what?

[@SaiyanKCM]

Bro he hit me up on the DL and gave me the scoop. Flash is in boiiiii

[@SaiyanKCM]

If it's not obvious I'm kidding 😂. Only flash knows what flash gonna do

[@veasnamakara5941]

@@SaiyanKCM ASL is returning to Flash

[@marc-etiennemercier6584]

@@SaiyanKCM Ah kk thought u were onto something.

[@Praisethelord1444]

​@@SaiyanKCMLol

[@LuckyStilet1]

It feels current meta and PvT state - absolute terrible for Flash style. You can't play "camp to win" style vs very top players every game. The best results for Terrans which can switch many many times from aggression to passive even in one game.

[@lemmack]

Just wait. Flash is testing how much turtling he can get away with in this meta. He will adjust and add more aggression, but only if he is absolutely forced to.

[@utarian7]

@@lemmack I fuckin' loathed his 3 base turtle until 3/3/200 in the old days tbh. So glad that's out of the meta now.

[@utarian7]

30:00 **TAXATION IS THEFT**

[@fangedcow12345]

Can't wait for flash to start winning again and we'll go back to crap maps like 76 and more and more tesagi discussions. 😂

[@utarian7]

Tesagi is statistically backed. Even without flash and light, terran has highest win rate. Also Terran has most tournament wins, most bonjwas.... Protoss literally have 0 bonjwa.

[@osirisra1476]

Please stop the ADD siderants. Kills the immersion.

[@hasudrone2]

this truly shows how unbalanced this matchup is. and no im not fanboying flash. the general pvt win rates says it all. so much has to go right for terran to win

[@robrobertson1558]

Lol game1 toss takes 3rd for free like always then takes a 4th while terran just pumps units does not start 3rd base.Yet protoss has drops and 60 supply advantage.Then he just destroy terran who was not different than some C rank.Flash was not rusty his race is just garbage in this broken matchup.

[@malekiththeeternityking5433]

I hate how OP carriers are. Flash wins every fight in Game three Carriers come out. GG. It's obnoxious

[@spinvn]

Carriers dont come out of thin air lol. Every fight that Flash "wins" is a trade that Bisu is happy to take to get to his win condition i.e. Bisu doesn't win the fight but also doesn't take a hit to his Carrier transition. This is an RTS game, not Street Fighters. You win the war, not the battle.

[@malekiththeeternityking5433]

@@spinvn The fact that Terran has NO SOLUTION to Carriers IS A MAJOR PROBLEM. Imagine being so bias

[@spinvn]

​@@malekiththeeternityking5433 It's not me being bias. It's you not understanding the game. The solution is to kill Protoss before they get to 12 Carriers. Same for TvZ before the they get to 12 Ultralisks. Your concept of a solution is a direct counter lol. Does Protoss have a "solution" to EMP? Does Zerg have a "solution" to Irradiate? Does anyone have a "solution" to 3 3 mech? If you race always has a direct counter that will kill your opponents' units outright then your race is winning everything.

[@malekiththeeternityking5433]

@@spinvn That is such Cap. You're telling me irridate is better then Dark Swarm or Storm? And you claim to "Understand the game?" What kind of fool are you?

[@medagross999]

​@@malekiththeeternityking5433You're missing the point. He's not saying irradiate is better than dark swarm or storm. He's saying there are ways to beat things without facing them in a head on fight. For example, protoss can't beat 3-3 mech in a head on fight with gateway units, but they can use their superior mobility to do recalls, drops or harass. Similarly, Terran can't beat Carriers in a head on fight, but it takes so long to make them and get the interceptors that Terran can kill the protoss before they are ready.

[@ogalskioperator3939]

Gotta dislike the commentary. Tank bunker push called cheesy play, but nexus first on 4P is perfectly balanced as all things should be?? Pfff

[@andrewdinns1746]

aren't all-ins considered "cheesy" ?

[@medagross999]

​​@@andrewdinns1746 An all in is a standard Terran response to Nexus first. Nexus first itself is considered a type of eco cheese. Tho a tank push is not usually the type of push used for this kind of stuff.

[@SaiyanKCM]

Lol what a reason

[@albert4860]

Found the salty Terran.

[@janpaulbusch1437]

Eco cheese, attack cheese...... Omg so deviating from standard is cheese? Is it unfair? Are we all 5 years old again? Lol smirking.