FLASH vs SNOW 2024 Series - Starcraft Broodwar

The Ultimate Challenge for the Ultimate Weapon
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[@MundaneDave]

Double picture in picture action! Thanks for the cast!! Flash, Rain, Fantasy: Three players able to return and adapt fast af to the meta, and these games are an example. I think, both games, building a second Wraith would've been genius.

[@-LocoBolon]

Yes I agree, you need to have a small number or wraiths mb with cloak so they live longer to be able to have these small fights everywhere vs this style Protoss

[@-LocoBolon]

I think Flash is already shining light on one weakness this P style has wich is few observers and not much time to micro them correctly to clean mines.

[@IYPITWL]

Snow asking if the id is flash: "God, is that you?" Flash: "Yes, my childe."

[@f5ntasy]

🤣

[@grudley]

fun fact about that cancelled "dragoon range" at 19:30 is that it was actually air weapons which is 50 minerals and gas cheaper

[@stambe8605]

Yep, thats an old trick that was being used alot back in 02-04 PvT meta to trick Terrans that you are going Goon range, then canceling and going DTs or expand. Reavers weren't used nearly to the same extent or proficiency like in 2024. I guess it still holds merit to use it to conceal faster Reavers.

[@dopyrussian-englishkeyboard]

Google Translate shows that in the beginning of the second game 15:13 Flash: Is that right? Snow: Yes Flash: Yes looks like there is missing dialogue between them Crazy how Snow managed to to dodge vulture/tank shots with his shuttle/reaver micro when reavers was 1 tank shot from death once at 24:33 and again at 24:37 The reaver was less than 10 hp, with no shield so a tank shout kills it but somehow dodges it.

[@boyalogs]

Snow actually does this against Speed in the most recent ASL. It was probably one of the best reaver/shuttle plays in history. I highly recommend you go watch it. Also... Thanks for the translation. 'preciate it buddy.

[@JoesFastestStarcraftCasts]

For the algo

[@Jamesgalc-gs8wu]

For the culture, sc culture😂

[@EXOdagr8t]

I am liking because I want to see brood war forever and commenting for the algorythm

[@Timic83tc]

Same!

[@zabban]

same!

[@soldier22881]

broodwar > starcraft 2

[@JimmyDing-x8s]

Great series. Thanks for the cast!

[@davidorawe3931]

THIS is the matchup I've been waiting to see.

[@-LocoBolon]

we all been wating to see***

[@-LocoBolon]

We waited long enough and now the waiting is over I guess friend :).

[@davidorawe3931]

No disappointment either. I hope to see these two at their peak in the finals

[@Bleak13]

Flash’s relentless pushes are still scary

[@petecabrina]

And the way snow held was ridiculous, the amount of unit control both these guys have is ridiculous.

[@majermike]

does not seem like a great way to play terran, I know flash is better than I am but in general terrans trade better in large battles, protoss trades better in small battles, maybe flash was trying to be scrappy just for practice, but flash knows he could easily have won by turtling up until he hit 200 supply

[@majermike]

​@gsMuzak yes, reaver drops are one of snow's many options. no, flash playing defensively until he maxes out does not mean he won't reach 40 scvs.

[@reekhadol]

We can talk about Snow's rise and Flash's decline all we want but let's not forget that Snow's first proleague match was him beating Flash. 13 years ago, 2-3 years into his professional career at Flash's peak.

[@ninjaviking4073]

Like. Comment. Subscribed. May Starcraft live forever.

[@borisgrechanichenko]

When you told that the second game is even Snow had +40 supply and +20 workers :) I heard Snows evil laughter for the most of the match) He was just dominating.

[@eud64_]

. . . Flash is really a next level player, looks like his adaptability is way too good, you can tell by the way he can keep up with Snow having only returned not so long ago. I'm hoping he once again reigns supreme thus provoking a meta switch yet again.

[@AnimeLOVER-uw9js]

Being a pro gamer is hard as return as pro gamer you get rusty i remenber my comeback from military service and I stay in A rank for 2 months when normaly I hit S every season is the past

[@hugefluffygnome]

Excellent cast and games, really appreciate the extra effort for putting in the picture in picture as well.

[@Up2Me-h2z]

The split screen was a grate idea. Keep that up.

[@davidbevilacqua2061]

@Alexfriedam : Best's play is based mainly on insane macro, Snow's play is harder to master: snipping tanks + managing insane Reaver micro + Nexus expanding + non stop producing goons+zealots. You can't imagine how insane skill and stamina it needs.

[@MiguelFernandez-xy3vf]

true thas why he is the only one doing it...we havent seen the best protos ever yet...can we have a player like snow with best macro?

[@diegorivera6763]

Flash just made a World top 3 starcraft player sweat after just a few weeks since his return. Actually he performed stronger than rank leading Terran players. Snow was simply superior, although in the second match he won just because of a juicy scarab in the base at 3 o’clock.

[@flimsygrayfrog]

First time watching your cast, mostly because Im so keen to watch more flash games but I really enjoyed it! The split screen is nice Subscribed

[@mauzytv]

Great cast! I'm relatively new to watching BW, I'm mostly into SC2, but I loved this one :) gonna check out more, earned my sub

[@sebastianrohl3801]

thank you for blessing us with this cast

[@Bigtetrisguy]

Snow cancelled a goon at 18:08 ish to make a nexus. Interesting when they make these minor early game changes.

[@samab7891]

Flash needa a few wraith do deal with the drops

[@ChokedByHalo1]

15:20 lmao, caught me off guard

[@utarian7]

When an unstoppable force meets an immovable object.

[@MiguelFernandez-xy3vf]

lovely comment

[@construccioneseinversiones2582]

​@@MiguelFernandez-xy3vfis a movie batman

[@alexfriedman2152]

No idea how Snow Plays like that. When I play I like to attack all in like Best. Snow never does a big attack.. He doesn't even need to.... he just micros a few goons and zealot reaver for like 10 minutes.

[@JayrodTremonki]

He uglies up the game to where it's 4 tanks and vultures vs 1 reaver and 3 goons perpetually. Because he will be more efficient in 90% of skirmishes. It's when it's 200 supply vs 200 supply where he loses his edge. So he never lets you get there.

[@Leonhart_93]

He understands that there is always a chance to lose vs a big ball of tanks. That's why he doesn't risk it.

[@slbjjk]

love snow vs flash! more!

[@rudemedia488]

I think the very first few seconds of the second game is cut off. I watched this game live yesterday and I remember the dialogue was: Flash: Are you the protoss from last game? (they played two consecutive games) Snow: Yes Flash: Okay, GG

[@SkProductions56]

Snow's micro is otherworldly

[@seiaghen]

vulture for the probe that's going for the third is huge

[@osirisra1476]

Yup, it decided the game

[@osirisra1476]

G2 was amazing. You could tell Flash has decisive advantages over Snow, namely much better macro while microing. I can see Flash getting up to speed and beating Snow solidly, as much as I don't want to admit it. Snow has a massive macro weakness.

[@painlesszz00]

Wow SnOw is so good!

[@ptsanche]

This game highlights how difficult is to beat protoss as terran nowadays. Great casting though

[@leonardobruzzoni9231]

Hey! Happy 6k subs!

[@gosu1989]

Great game on Retro Flash almost won, if it wasn’t Retro Flash would have won that game I think

[@Baldodeathmetal]

I like the part where the people played the game of the starcraft

[@josephsilo187]

18:14 How is that marine sitting between the barracks and the SD? He even phase shifts through the building later.

[@ashesofaranea]

its called a zealot tight wall, as in a wall that will allow terran marines to kite the zealots cause they are small enough that they can pass between buildings there but the zealots can't, really a very central means of walling for terran to survive early game zealots

[@jakjaksonian]

Had a feeling this would be on your channel haha - thanks so much dude

[@mf_________]

Ahhh.. The one I have been waiting for.

[@nicholasscott2118]

flash vs snow, so epic

[@rdt1104]

that dragoon scv micro...

[@-LocoBolon]

You had a nice run Mr. Snow but can you see it now, can't you? Your reign is coming to an end soon ^^

[@sblingfun]

Great content!

[@blazewarTV]

this is exactly what i was wating for. love you artosis

[@albert4860]

@15:50 Here's the thing about Snow: he doesn't seem to do well under pressure at all. He's always dominating in non-asl tournaments and ladder games that people call him a God. But when it comes time to actually perform well in ASL, he often chokes. So the fact that he beat a rusty Flash in an a non-asl game means absolutely nothing to me. I'm still waiting for him to win an ASL.

[@1BasedAmerican]

It's still flash. Give Snow some credit. He's still better then 90% of other Protoss's out there. And no offense but I'd hardly call losing to Flash as "choking" in a tournament. Just cuz you don't beat the best player to ever pick up the mouse doesn't mean you're not good. Get real.

[@osirisra1476]

Losing in tournament isn't the same thing as choking. The best players only win 60% of the time in BW. I don't really think you can point to an individual series where Snow flat-out choked.

[@albert4860]

@@1BasedAmerican When did I say Snow is not good? Please don't put words in my mouth. I love watching Snow and hes probably the best Protoss out there at the moment. I was rooting for either him or Hero to win last season. As I said, Snow has been dominating the ladder and other non-asl tournaments, only a very good player could do that. However when he reaches the later rounds of the ASL, he simply does not perform as well as expected especially considered how dominating he is in non-asl settings. I consider that choking.

[@flowertowerrr]

LOL he's such a beast

[@greenwave819]

GG

[@Itsyoboyjy]

Thanks brah

[@ManCubuSSC]

20+ min. game and you say me FlaSh is still not maxed out but struggling go above 100 supply? That's how good SnOw is.

[@dewinmoonl]

jeuss what a game

[@Praisethelord1444]

Yas

[@susugam3004]

54 here's first 15 minutes

[@saetia7]

Love the casts and it's great to see Flash back but can we strike a balance where not every single video is about him? I love watching ZvP and ZvZ and it's just a little boring that because of Flash every game has at least one Terran in it at the moment.

[@mattthemaddogdollar]

Snow deduced...

[@LorenzKamo]

So much micro

[@mattthemaddogdollar]

SPOILER

[@mattthemaddogdollar]

Game 2 - Why did Flash build science vessels if he wasn't even using any spells? If he needed something to spot for the seige tanks, he should have just build a wraith or 2.

[@norik9910]

Snow's play is the exact opposite of Flash's, versatile, dynamic and aggresive. Flash was, is and will with his turtling play, so boring to watch.

[@sanaebeast4485]

The arm injury leads Flash to be not aggressive any more, also Snow's PVT style is nearly similar to Jangbi in 2010 as time goes by.

[@skeptic9991]

Sure, buddy, the player who is widely considered the best gamer of all time is boring to watch. I bet you could be a lot better and a lot more entertaining if you wanted to; you just chose to pursue other things in life because you are just THAT talented.

[@orionlt1028]

in a month or two, flash will wipe floor with snow

[@MundaneDave]

This TvP style is totally different from what he was doing just one week ago. More than dynamic, Flash is able to adapt to the meta faster than anyone. It's a huge mistake thinking this is weak, or his final form.

[@norik9910]

@@MundaneDave Sure, you're probably right, he's a fantastic player and he could use all the strategies he wants but, I wasn't attacking his skills but just his style only. He lacks this crazyness and daring strategies I sometimes see with other players. He used a lot this turtling behaviour, and if my memory serves especially against Jaedong in ASL finals.

[@RyanJ14115]

Flash is starting to come back he just needs to stop being stubborn and accept the new TvP meta

[@SaiyanKCM]

Oh man wait till you see my next upload