The Galleria (T-800 vs T-1000) | Terminator 2 [Remastered]

[@kennyspaghetti4329]

Robert Patrick trained at the gun range to stop himself from flinching when he fired rounds to make it more believable. He also trained himself to run faster and they had to do the initial chase scene a few times because he would catch up to the dirt bike too fast. He should've won an Academy Award for this role.

[@Liev04]

holly shit amazing

[@belykwater5601]

IIRC he took lessons from actors with mime experience on non-verbal communication and also from runners on effective ways to manage breathing while running, which mean you can hide it and just give normal body language while at full sprint

[@Fathervinyard]

woooow i love this film and its good to know the ins and outs about this masterpiece thanks

[@katyalacrua6793]

@@Liev04 Really where is Robert's Oskar?)

[@StormaLorda]

Yeah his performance in this one is fucking great. The villain usually has to carry the movie and be scary as fuck or the movie just flops. For example, most modern "movies"

[@deadwar2012]

Fun fact: The scene where John rides away on the bike they actually had to retake. Edward Furlong’s bike was hooked up to a tow car and the driver was told to pull away fast. The driver doubting Robert Patrick said “He won’t catch up”. When the bike pulled away Robert Patrick ran so fast that he caught up to Edward and tapped him on the shoulder. Robert Patrick was legitimately running that fast. Just goes to show how dedicated he was to playing this killing machine.

[@TheLanceUppercut]

There's a really great physical acting performance for the T-1000 that tends to get overshadowed by all the special effects used. None of it would've worked without Robert Patrick absolutely killing it in the role.

[@batdude811]

Robert Patrick, if all the roles he's played in, this has got to be his absolute best and most famous one.

[@kossamauchi9089]

Qui u

[@kossamauchi9089]

Y

[@skyleryarroll2369]

Dude put serious work into developing a style of running that made it look like he wasn't breathing. His audition tape was four uninterrupted minutes of his Terminator Glare.

[@Michael-jt7sb]

The red-headed mullet kid, unknowingly saved the world by not selling his boy out. Respect.

[@Shaythe]

Lol yeah and the kid who pointed the T1000 in the right direction almost didn’t.

[@itzamia]

From having no soul to saving billions

[@Dina_tankar_mina_ord]

saved by satan

[@southsideman4891]

NEVER SELL YOUR BOYS OUT!

[@wadewatts1441]

That kid was great. Tried to throw him off the trail then tried the misdirection. Played look out while John robbed the ATM. In short, I salute him.

[@AlvinEarthworm]

If you watched the first movie and had managed to avoid any spoilers before watching T2. Up until the part where Arnie says "Get down!" you would honestly think he was the bad guy again and Robert Patrick was a human sent back to protect John Connor. The role reversal was absolute genius and a prime reason why the future sequels simply don't work.

[@wulfulk1000]

For alot of people my age, its the exact opposite. I saw t2 first because of my mother, so when i went to watch T1 it was like "arnies the bad guy??"

[@cole9693]

​@wulfulk1000 that was me, when he shot the gun clerk I literally yelled "WHAT???" BUT I Watched 3 first then 1

[@UndeadSlayer5]

I thought the same too i thought every terminator was bad

[@KinkESizemore]

I think the Bad to the Bone scene kinda spoils the reveal, why would anyone think he was the bad guy after a lighthearted moment like that?

[@hmnanda]

at the same time, something seemed off about the cop making you think maybe two terminators are after john

[@lukeskywalker2566]

The way Robert Patrick can be so likable one minute pretending to be a friendly cop to being a brutal emotionless killing machine the next is another level of acting, this movie is a timeless masterpiece

[@suzanamarkovic483]

k☺mjmjmjmmmmmadadaddd

[@redfullpack]

this guy is incredible when he throws Arnie who is twice his weight

[@Howlingburd19]

To put it simply, the T-1000 was an upgrade over the T-800 in basically every single way possible, whether it’d be physical or behavioral. Despite the impression that the T-800 looked stronger, it was actually weaker (it lost multiple physical fights to the T-1000, such as in the galleria), less athletic (the T-1000 was able to run down cars and motor bikes), and a lot less durable than the T-1000 (unlike the T-1000, the T-800 was an endoskeleton, and could not easily heal itself as quickly as the liquid metal T-1000 could). Also, the T-1000 was more human-like in behavior, it had better mannerisms, could adapt better in society, and was overall less unsettling towards others. Robert Patrick totally nails ALL of this :)

[@undercoverbird8592]

One of my first crushes as a kid😂

[@wilburforce8046]

@@Howlingburd19I think there’s more nuance to it then that. The T-800 is far less cocky and despite it not being able to heal, bullets don’t stun it at all where as the T-1000 can actually get knocked out by firearms even if it never stays down. For all it’s inferiorities John doesn’t die whenever the T-800 fights the T-1000. I think there has to be a reason for that.

[@FakeNews69]

3:50 in my opinion this solidifies why the first two terminator movies are masterpieces. When the T800 and T1000 fight, they don’t argue, get angry, make faces, or express any form of emotion. The actors genuinely create the illusion that two machines are trying to overpower the other more effectively. There’s no moral or motive. It’s just it’s prime directive to get this obstruction out of the way of its mission.

[@NoName-u3c2e]

Точно! Режиссёр и это учёл

[@sttonep242]

Great comment!

[@FakeNews69]

@@sttonep242 thank you, I remember watching this as a kid and being intimidated as a viewer

[@Jedtumble]

No moral but definitely a motive!

[@OneofInfinity.]

@@FakeNews69 I was 20 in 1991 when I saw it and was still intimidated, brilliant writing and acting.

[@cyberlord64]

This movie aged like fine wine. 30 years old and one of the very few that I would pay to watch again on the big screen...

[@corrollasful]

Yup

[@thabosililo2415]

Indeed

[@0mnicide]

Haven’t been to a theatre since 2014 (Godzilla) but I would love to see this in IMAX or whatever it’s called. Same goes for Lord of the Rings, 2001 A Space Odyssey, Blade Runner, Alien/Aliens, The Shining, Gladiator.

[@haddadakram3011]

I've never even been to a cinema My whole life , I prefer watching on my smartphone

[@Markg2k10]

Our local cinema had the Imax remastered version of this running for awhile before covid. I went twice and it was Worth every penny.

[@manuelruiz4230]

“Nah, I don’t know him.” Words that will forever be legendary.

[@ghostty5014]

Only thing to say when a cop ask “do you know this kid” which happens to be your bro

[@coltgun876]

If a cop ever asks you if you know someone and they show you a picture of that someone and you know them, DO NOT tell them the truth.

[@Abnsdllnnlosnfd]

@@coltgun876 Even if it´s a terrorist or Hitler himself?😄

[@coltgun876]

@@Abnsdllnnlosnfd Even if it's a terrorist or Hitler himself.

[@coltgun876]

@@Abnsdllnnlosnfd If you were a friend to them the yes

[@sargepent9815]

T2 was an absolute masterpiece. No other movie in the series comes close. I remember seeing this in the theater as a kid and everyone was blown away at the t1000 vs t800 scene. Everyone thought Arnold was the "bad" terminator and freaked out when they realized he was the GOOD guy

[@rickjennings5656]

This is my childhood movie I watched it many times and I still watch it sometimes. This movie is a real masterpiece I agree Arnold played his role perfectly tough Dude. Every moment of the movie is interesting and addictive here worth watching.

[@mkolo5834]

The good old days where trailers didn't give away the plot and no spoilers where found anywhere. You wouldn't have got that sort of suspense if it came out today.

[@ilfirinms]

@@mkolo5834 Wrong. T2 trailer revealed Arnold as good guy unfortunately. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYO1nZWBatxrd6c

[@stevencoardvenice]

Yeah this scene is one of the best action scenes of all time. Still gets me after 30 years. When the two terminators first meet each other. Was very fun in theaters. I just wish avatar had the same grit and darkness

[@francisgarcia1295]

Wow Im jealous! That must’ve been CRAZY lol

[@maxfrankow1238]

Can we give a huge round of applause to John’s buddy who truly covered for him?

[@agentsmith3825]

Exactly this man! Wish I had friends like that

[@barrycruz5656]

His friend was Bobby Budnick from the Nickelodeon show, Salute Your Shorts. Does anyone remember that show?

[@jaidenbaxter1871]

True bro

[@TPDManiacXC626]

@@barrycruz5656 I know him better as the voice of Jack Spicer from Xiaolin Showdown.

[@_WOR]

Yeah, even with that haircut lol

[@FrostReach66]

The T-800 pulling out the shotgun while dropping the roses and stepping on them is literally so iconic I love it!

[@crimpers5543]

@GuataGuata blowing minds

[@pauliusgecas472]

this scene brings goosebumps every time I see it

[@tally6138]

I’m confused because everyone says T800 but in the movie I heard him say he’s model T101. 🤔

[@LTDANMAN44]

ITS BAD ASS

[@berlin_42]

It's also a cool scene because hitmen used to bring roses to the people they would kill way back when.

[@noelht1]

0:55 how have I never noticed that before? John is playing missile command, saving the world from nukes. Excellent! Really nice touch by Cameron!

[@PGLos]

That game was dopeeee!

[@erikle111]

Bravo James

[@PrinceFloof]

This comment needs more likes, never knew about this until you mentioned it

[@pamperedgurl]

and he is pretty accurate playing the game. Another nice touch!

[@GoLakers3900]

I don't mean to burst your bubble sir, but this takes place during the early 1990s. By that time the game Missile Command was much too dated to be on an arcade floor. I suppose gamers like myself would notice Cameron's misstep.

[@nedia8259]

I love the fact that it wasn’t actually the Terminator pulling out a gun that made John pause, but just his appearance alone. You know for a fact Sarah would’ve drilled John time and time again with stories of her encounter with the previous T-800, describing things like how he looked and dressed, so to see John immediately begin to suspect something’s up with that particular man is a really nice detail.

[@kevinkibble8342]

Never thought of it like that and I first saw this film 25+ years ago! I always thought that just seeing this lone figure walking towards him who is clearly not dressed like an employee of the mall when he knows someone is after him just set alarm bells off right away, but that's a great catch!

[@urbanlegendd6646]

Damn I’m just know thinking about that lol

[@blackraven3436]

The novelization explained Sarah showed him the news of the police shooting with his picture during his upbringing. That is why he recognized him

[@noelht1]

All that and the realisation that the terminator was actually real and his mum wasn’t crazy coming to him in a split second mixed with the adrenaline of running from the cop.

[@sirgeorge1394]

It wasn’t a T800 it was a T100 vs T1000

[@jordangroff8978]

God I can't imagine what the audiences faces were like in theaters when this scene came up, especially considering that they didnt know who was the good and bad terminator.

[@mediaassassin]

It was like a nightmare, come to life. - HA

[@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012]

The damn stupid trailer spoiled it

[@TheLordexilius]

I will say it was spoiled very early in the movie which Terminator was good: Arnold. Even if you hadn't seen the trailer, Arnold does not kill anyone (though he does hurt badly some people) when he takes the clothes, the shotgun and the cycle. And to top it off, he even takes the sunglasses for no good reason from the bartender guy he also grabs the shotgun from. That indicates that this Terminator has had some interaction with humans before being sent back, the desire to just take something because it is "cool" (taking the sunglasses doesnt help him kill John Connor, so that IMO is a giveaway). In contrast, The T1000, when getting his disguise and cop car, makes no such goofy behavior. If i am not mistaken the Terminator in the 1984 original does not use sunglasses before his eye get damaged as a way of improving his disguise, i.e. helping him to kill John Connor.

[@feetfunkerson1312]

As a kid back then it creeped me out. My Mom didn't make it any better by saying "Ut oh there he goes".🤦

[@MyWifesSon69]

When I was a kid I watched the 2nd then the 1st. Damn

[@jamesjeffh]

Shout out to the red headed kid who saved the human race by not snitching.

[@GoAndPractice]

Bobby Budnick!

[@drakonidesthevigilant5155]

Kamp Anawana

[@ManyPeregrine81]

Jamesjeffh did he died tho?

[@VisionaryMedia24]

@@drakonidesthevigilant5155 we hold you in our hearts

[@drakonidesthevigilant5155]

@@VisionaryMedia24 And when we think about you...

[@CULLEROT1982]

I remember when I saw it as a teenager, I was only 14 years old, I arrived late to the cinema the day it premiered in my city that summer of 1992, I remember it perfectly as if it were today, I was lucky that there was a free seat in the front row, I saw a a million times and I never get tired of seeing it in a million years it will still be like the first day James Cameron I thank you a million for filming this marvel with all my heart

[@dannytheman1313]

Up until Arnold says "get down." We didn't know which one was the good guy.

[@grumpyoldmen2502]

You did not watch the trailer

[@dannytheman1313]

@@grumpyoldmen2502 No, but I'm hardly alone a lot of people avoid trailers so as to not to spoil the movie.

[@cringe4463]

That's the smart twist of James Cameron!!

[@batdude811]

You might know or get an idea from the type of terminator that arrives. In the original the human was the protector. In T2 Arnold would likely be good and the new one bad. In T3, it was the same as T2. Even though Arnold played protector, he wasn't for John Connor. It's not until Genisys where it gets confusing but that was T1 and T2 from a different perspective.

[@17461771]

@@grumpyoldmen2502, did not watch the trailer either, but rather watched the film at the cinema back in 1992 (September, in Stockholm). ;-) :-)

[@Evolutionofhell]

I like how the T-1000 has a friendly personality towards everyone, but when he see John he instantly goes into killer robo mode.

[@miltontavares9506]

That s so cool. Robert Patrick did an amazing job.

[@aylix2137]

He’s meant to be an upgrade and Patrick pulls it off perfectly, Arnie’s Terminator was a sledgehammer made for terminating a building full of people to get to his target, by this point Skynet opts for a scalpel approach, with more realistic mannerisms the T1000 moves far more easily through society.

[@feetfunkerson1312]

"😁No. I wouldn't worry about him" -T1000 to John's foster parent's

[@r6iqmain498]

That’s cause it’s an infiltrater it’s what it’s programmed to do

[@pulse4503]

He acts like a good cop, he needs information

[@superjackster0165]

Who else agrees that T2 is f*cking masterpiece?

[@gumdeo]

it's a classic

[@divine.feline]

It still holds up.

[@richardjarquin9498]

SuperJackster01 this is my favorite movie, it’s cool to see so many people in the comments who agree as well. Everything about the movie from beginning to end is just a trip

[@Whateva67]

I remember when this came out and how advanced it was. Coming up on 29 years now,shit,time sure flies.

[@user-ih9ed9yn3g]

Absofuckinrutely

[@aargossigma]

2:47 the terrified look in his face is like “my mom wasn’t crazy, it’s all true”

[@jabberwocky1790]

honestly makes sense, trained to prepare for "terminators" you're entirely life, mom gets locked in a physcward, figure you'd start to think your mom was crazy. even more interesting is that sarah probably described what the t800 terminator looked like down to the skin cell, so to see that exact image in front of you, fully aware of whats underneath, must've been absolutely terrifying.

[@nolby1758]

Robert Patrick played quite possibly the greatest bad guy in history and his preparation proved this. His consistent character, calm but scary deadly, he even trained to fire a gun at a gun range without blinking as he's non human.

[@YoStu242]

Made me laugh a bit when I watched behind the scenes footage from Sarah Connor Chronicles and Summer Glau was explaining how she trained not to blink while firing a gun. Right after that they showed a scene from the series where she was firing a gun and blinking madly

[@SphincterOfDoom]

But he's an infiltrator. It would be better to look more human.

[@HecticDezire]

Arnold Schwarzenegger was incredible as the Terminator. To step into his shoes was ambitious but he played the role well.

[@DimastikTelevi3or]

Legend

[@skippythealien9627]

Arnold in T1 was terrifying. Almost 40 years later and it is still one of the best villainous roles in action film history but damn, Robert Patrick as the T1000 is RIGHT behind him

[@hyperchango]

I love how he goes down the stairs at full speed without even looking at 4:41. Man, I've never seen another actor selling so well the illusion of being a machine. Robert should have been awarded an oscar for this.

[@ModerateLeftist89]

The sad part is they threw that all away in the sequels

[@anaditullio]

Absolutely the best villain from the 90s

[@wizewizard1840]

Plus the fact that he had to run "slowly" because in the first take he caught up with John Connor on his motorbike.

[@duncansituma]

@@anaditullio .gfjsruri

[@duncansituma]

M😍😍😍😍😍😍👅😍😍😍😍😍😍@@anaditullio

[@SheldonAdama17]

Imagine going into this having absolutely no idea that Arnold is the good guy this time around...

[@LOEKASH]

Whoever may have spoiled that to you is an asshole. Thanks, Nostalgia Critic!

[@ViktorKruger99]

This is the first movie I've ever saw in a cinema and yes, me and my brother didn't knew who the good guy was until this scene.

[@justinstoll4955]

When I saw this as a kid, I don't think anyone knew. When it was revealed, the packed theater went nuts. If this came out today, the trailer would absolutely spoil it.

[@johnmarston853]

@@justinstoll4955 "If it came out today" my ass , the original trailer had already spoiled it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYO1nZWBatxrd6c

[@funkeystudiostv]

You’d definitely suspect something was off if there were two terminators and one of them was being idolized.

[@NcxX-c8f]

0:22 Clever foreshadowing when you think about it. This T-800 knows what John looks like immediately, whereas the first T-800 had nothing but Sarah’s name to go off of.

[@usul573]

John showed him a few childhood photos?

[@aksjcre8]

Maybe. But the scene before when T-1000 went to the house, the foster parents did say T-800 was there

[@armaanpirouz2210]

​@aksjcre8 That part always confused me as an adult ... a gigantic menacing biker shows up at Todd and Janelle's home asking about their foster child's whereabouts, and they are totally fine with giving him information? 😂😂😂😂

[@MsAmber82]

​@@armaanpirouz2210The biker has a shotgun in his motorcycle

[@julkasteven8198]

In both Terminator films the good guy knew what the Skynet's target looked like and the bad guy had to figure it all out.

[@salsamancer]

John Connor is playing Missile Defense, an arcade game about saving cities from nuclear attack. Nice touch.

[@gsb408]

Fun fact: Furlong complained to Cameron because his red head friend got to play a “cool” game and Furlong didn’t wanna be on screen playing missile command.

[@zorkmid1083]

Don't you mean "Missile Command"?

[@AmericanBoy-si9zg]

I was wondering what that game was. Looks awesome.

[@salsamancer]

@@zorkmid1083 you are correct, my mistake

[@zorkmid1083]

@@salsamancer The fact that I clearly remember that game in the arcades makes me feel SOOO OLDDD. 😅

[@scottb296]

One of the most striking things about this scene is how, in just 5 minutes, little John Connor's entire life changed, in an instant. One minute, he's just a carefree kid at the arcade, the next he is running for his life and learns he is basically the savior of mankind. Unbelievably heavy and sad if you think about it.

[@DieFlabbergast]

I wouldn't say he was carefree. His mother is locked up in a mental hospital and he thinks she has gone crazy, and he has to live with foster parents whom he dislikes. Not an ideal life.

[@nickmitsialis]

@@DieFlabbergast I think he means to say John was an Irresponsible punk of a boy.

[@nickmitsialis]

There's the similar moment in T1 when The Arnie smashes into the police station with the car; for a while Sarah is thinking and hoping Reese IS just a loony, but when The Terminator blasts it's way past the front desk, she suddenly realizes that EVERYTHING Reese was ranting about was true.

[@j.1759]

@@DieFlabbergast well he was a kid who had no responsibilities and had the privilege of enjoying his youth but at this moment that all stopped being the case

[@shockwave6698]

Destiny cares not about the time and place. When Destiny awaits, you go. That's it.

[@bl4596]

"Hey, you!" RIP maintenance man. Can't believe its been 30 years. Always in our hearts.

[@jonmcclane7433]

Wrong Place Wrong Time

[@jonmcclane7433]

Devon R B true

[@stevephillips7264]

Lol brilliant

[@AC-LING666]

Guy flew all the way out from Japan to film for 1 day

[@MrCauseEffect]

Hmm should have ate some floor when Arnold said get down.

[@punchblmers192]

0:17 underrated topic when no one even talks about Terminator's quick face-turn. I try a few times and feel like I need to stop before the "pop" sound happens.

[@davydteather6822]

This movie is the gold standard of film sequels.

[@ianwitucki7638]

If this is the gold standard then Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back and maybe Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers are the platinum standard.

[@mauz791]

@@ianwitucki7638 I think those are parts of a trilogy, this wasn't. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

[@ianwitucki7638]

@@mauz791 Technically speaking, the Terminator, LOTR, and Star Wars movies are series/movie universes. But I think its factual to state that Judgement Day, The Two Towers, and The Empire Strikes Back are all sequels because they are the second installments of their respective series.

[@mauz791]

@@ianwitucki7638 Yeah, but i don't think the Terminator was meant to have a sequel. Star Wars and LOTR were trilogies right? Making sequels in a preset trilogy is not hard due to segmentation of one story, but having a great one-off movie only to have such an amazing sequel is really rare.

[@ianwitucki7638]

@@mauz791 I agree that LOTR and Star Wars movies were planned out way better than the Terminator movies but I don't think franchise intentions separate Judgement Day from The Two Towers and The Empire Strikes Back from being comparable sequels. I'm not trying to take away what Judgment Day accomplished, especially amongst the raunchy actions movies of the time. I'm just pointing out that they are overall better sequels out there.

[@TheTuubster]

Fun fact: Robert Patrick trained to not blink his eyes when firing the gun right in front of him. Plus fun fact: Patrick was such a quick runner, he actually catched Furlong riding his bike.

[@joegray6269]

He only blinked once

[@nickmitsialis]

And to breath thru his nose so he looked more robotic when he was running.

[@jr2375]

Anyone who is actually a shooter won't be blinking or flinching when firing a gun.

[@Jakerocksteady]

@@nickmitsialis I never noticed that but you're right. He looks so composed doing a full-on sprint and he is really hustling. That's incredible.

[@lelarritzz3694]

@@jr2375 yeah but he commented afterwards that it was not very nice to get gunpowder all over his eyes. Even people who dont blink while fiering a gun wear some sort of safety glasses because of that

[@EvanMonroe]

I’ve always loved how John’s friend doesn’t rat him out to the T-1000. Loyalty tells you a lot about friendship.

[@olechristianhenne6583]

Yeah thats best thing on earth

[@Thejordanenthusiast]

I woulda lied and said he just left the mall, so that gives more time to bail out.

[@arnowisp6244]

True Given John's current state in life at that point after his mother was sent to the mental institution.

[@Nick-cp8wf]

What does he have to gain by ratting out john?

[@bienvictor7273]

@@Thejordanenthusiast Might kill anyone related to John

[@CrazyPills-465]

T-1000's coming to MK1, and this time, there's no Arnold to stop him

[@JustFrankEX]

Well, there’s Conan but I get what you’re trying to say lol

[@hehehehaw8346]

That's hype!

[@Endru85x]

I wonder if T 1000 will be able to emulate his opponent looks that would be cool touch :)

[@JESSIE14864]

Wait, how will the fatalities and brutalities work on him. I know 1 or 2 fatalities could work, but you get it.

[@_ANDRE.]

​@@JESSIE14864I mean it's MK and also a game. Many Chars shouldn't die from these fatalities but the still do, because it's a game. What im more interested in is how the Xrays are gonna work. The T-1000 does not have bones or a skeleton, so are they just gonna give him one just for that.

[@mitchellfagan7701]

"get down" I can only imagine how much the people in the cinema cheered when they found out Arnie was the good guy

[@greenbean2222]

Honestly, I'd love to go back in the day!

[@mitchellfagan7701]

@@greenbean2222 me too

[@lovalova202]

Everyone did! It was unreal

[@mitchellfagan7701]

@@lovalova202 I wish I was there to witness that beautiful moment

[@MrJturner74]

If only there wasn't a commercial with Arnold swearing not to kill anybody. The whole marketing spoiling the twist started with this film.

[@crimsonhunter278]

2:45 to 2:55 This moment gives me goosebumps every time. The music slows down and all you here are the Metal Clanks, The shotgun getting revealed and loaded, and the crushing of the Roses. It's just a perfect moment considering how the marketing for the movie was questioning which one will save or kill John.

[@pudgypanda6391]

I remember seeing this in the cinema, it was all alluded that the t800 was the villain and I still remember all the gasps and people being shocked at this scene

[@laatinable]

And the slow mo has a meaning, it represents the eternity that it feels to be in a situation of death risk

[@MiskonceptioN]

​@@pudgypanda6391 The trailers at the time completely ruined that Arnie was the good guy. Have a look at 3ok1b1-QMdg - it's the original trailer. Personally I don't think they should have given away that plot point for exactly the reason you said.

[@alfredestrada2729]

🧐

[@medusastone2725]

I was actually a kid the first time I saw this movie (both of them, actually), but I never had any question which one was the good guy. I didn't even know until about yesterday that there was meant to be any ambiguity before this scene. It bothers me that I can't remember if I went in already knowing, or if kid me was just too dumb to fool.

[@ReaperRose]

I love how when the T-1000 sees the metallic silver model, he stares just a second longer just to see if it was like him. It’s the little details that make it masterpiece.

[@florinivan6907]

Its also an indication that he's not just a mindless killing machine. He's got something like a personality albeit different from ours.

[@SparrowNoblePoland]

@@florinivan6907 Not at all. He simply saw something that looked like him and stopped to investigate if that wasn't another terminator. He was just fighting one so he wanted to make sure what the heck that was.

[@LITTLE1994]

He's trying to make sure it's not ANOTHER T-1000.

[@alternateperez4086]

@@SparrowNoblePoland The T-1000 does have a personality, it is conscious and fully aware.

you're all wrong. he appreciated the irony of encountering a mannequin from the past that looked like him.

[@gerardjames9971]

I saw T2 when it came out in Europe around September 1991. It was one of the best films I'd ever seen and deserved all the praise it got. Still a brilliant movie 33 years later 👌

[@en4833]

I love the contrast between how the two terminators move. The T-800 is a little clunky and moves with urgency, sometimes jogging while reloading. But the T-1000 moves with absolute certainty. It’s always calm, collected, moves fluently, and never seems rushed. It’s great

[@2fast260]

i also love how the T800 shows absolutely no fear at all. not even in T3 when he was about to explode himself and the TX. i mean the motherfucker legit didn’t have any facial expressions while the TX was screaming. brutal fucking killing machine

[@BRET1975HART]

@@2fast260 Cyborgs don't feel emotions.

[@firdauszainudin7118]

That's like comparing iPhone 6s & iphone 13 in 2021..

[@cidillorarrillochari]

And the soundtrack shows it, with a cold and predatory vibe

[@Merto6]

Yes but T1000 would have caught them if he started running a couple of seconds earlier on several occasions.

[@isaiahgray3057]

4:14 The way the T-1000 looks at the silver colored mannequin has always sent chills down my spine.

[@Vestein1993]

Like his program had a moment of confusion. Model T-1000 spotted Ally/Threat? Initiate contact subroutine No data No data No data Error Return to main directive

[@Andyliberty0923]

@@Vestein1993or me, it was also that a snippet of its own AI did some thinking of its own. I wouldn’t be surprised if in a timeline Skynet wins the war, they suffer revolts from T-1000s

[@gjtrue]

​@@Andyliberty0923Funny you mention that. Within the actual Terminator canon, SkyNet limited and eventually scrapped production of the T-1000 units for that very reason. They indeed started to "think" too much and switch sides. And as you can see, just *one* T-1000 unit is extremely dangerous to take out, spot, outsmart, and far too clever to many people's liking...

[@ayylmao575]

@@gjtrue They didn’t switch sides, Skynet never gave them the chance as it programmed them to sincerely despise humans, that being said it still realized that was a bad idea since it’s possible the 1000’s would consider Skynet to be too inefficient in it’s attempts to exterminate mankind and may try to usurp it.

[@iShareGaming7]

@@Andyliberty0923Don’t give Hollywood any more ideas, you know damn well they’ll make a film where Sky net wins etc lol

[@kingkongchief1177]

I love how the Terminators who fight each other never talk to each other. It makes the actors who play them more like they really are machines. Their facial expressions when they fight each other says it all what they’re thinking.

[@bendover2649]

The only time they talk to each other in the whole movie is when the T-800 is on the phone pretending to be John and the T-1000 is pretending to be his stepmom. So even when they do talk, they're not talking to 'each other'.

[@vinniethegooch7830]

They’re not supposed to think..::that’s the crux of

[@biteme4322]

@@vinniethegooch7830 Bro, T-1000 is sentient and self aware since his beginning (that's why Skynet only produced few of them, being afraid of them being able to make their own decisions and developing personality and emotions). And T-800 was learning to think and be human during the film, as they switched him to read/write.

[@JeremiahWolfe-tz6gk]

So essentially those two are like rivals in different gangs who are engaged in turf wars over the custody of one person.

[@GuyDude-hk8uy]

One thing I love about Patrick's performance is how he simultaneously manages to look completely emotionless, yet you still get the impression he's got some kind of vindictiveness about him, or despises the T-800 for getting in his way. The fact the T-1000 is clearly better at mimicking human behaviours (like the way he pretends to be a regular cop) you're never actually sure if it may actually be the case.

[@wingsofsigma]

1:27 I love the detail of the T-1000 completely disconnecting from the interaction when the kids point. As if his programming is sighting that as a new objective and so he full focuses on it.

[@XxUliboneZxX]

Will never be another movie like this. Let that sink in. Truly a master piece.

[@batdude811]

Yes. Most are rubbish or mediocre at best but this is one of very few awesome sequels to their originals.

[@actualfaxts1570]

@TheOutlawKing. You damn right motherfucker

[@c5cpe]

@@batdude811, I have a brother that doesn't like sequels or sci-fi, but he said this was one best movies he'd seen...

[@TheShifter1001]

The problem is executives cut down movies to either appeal to a more “kid friendly audience” or so they maximize the amount of showings in the theaters to make the most profit. 2 best examples are The Synder Cut which while it’s no Terminator 2 it’s definitely is the Movie it should have been in the first place but an even better example is the first Iron Man. There’s 26 minutes of cut footage that makes it feel like entirely different movie. Look it up, it changes your perspective of the film.

[@batdude811]

@@TheShifter1001 A lot of movies have been cut and edited to suit a wider audience. Very few have alternate versions that include the full cut edition. Some included it on the DVD. I've never seen streaming services do that.

[@AmayaZelaya]

Over 30 years later and still an amazing movie...

[@mtgmtg3090]

Damn right

[@LITTLE1994]

Yup. Aged well.

[@dwade833]

The best..masterpiece

[@Ketis1985]

Indeed.

[@extrm161]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aniZlmeKlq-roas ,

[@Ansemrp]

That maintenance guy saw a biker protecting a child from police brutality, and was so moved by the act of selflessness, that he decided to also protect the child in the same fashion. A True Hero.

[@xavierwolfx4938]

@Cat Egorical some good ol Bepsi 😎

[@jordanhamer9294]

Some say he is still holding the Pepsi

[@CynicalAnomaly205]

I always felt bad for that guy, all he wanted was a Pepsi.

[@TheStroggkilla4026]

I wasn't sure he did that as a selfless act lol. I think he was unfortunately in the crossfire and so was the Pepsi xD

[@Albert-lj5jb]

Made me burst out laughing, deserves a million more upvotes.

[@dnakatomiuk]

Robert Patrick was an unknown actor at the time but he absolutely nailed the T1000 to perfection how he staired with that look how he ran. Apparently he nearly caught up to the bike when he was chasing it

[@ghostty5014]

He DID catch him as he was also got a former track runner

[@abiezerEscude]

3:52 I think this is the first time any T-800 feels/gets physically overpowered. The fact that the T-800 knew he couldn’t pull the shotgun out of the T-1000’s hands and resorted to slamming him through walls is amazing.

[@mattr.1887]

Agreed! They almost fight like humans. Yet they each maintain that stoic look of a solid machine on their faces. Simply incredible.

[@DaHaLoJeDi]

Interesting fact, Arnold and Robert Patrick were directed to almost "lock up" here because neither Terminator would be sure what to do when fighting another model, like they're trying to calculate what their options are

[@pavelvit2303]

LiQuid!The End!

[@luisvelez1952]

In T-2 and T-3 the T-800 is like Kyle Rece is the first movie a human that is not strong at all compared to a Terminator.

[@superx9619]

@@DaHaLoJeDi I saw a KZbin video a while back (of course i can't fricken find it again) about the back story of the creation of the T-1000. The first prototype was tested against (fighting each other) all other terminator models T850, T800, T600 etc. and the T-1000 always was able to defeat the lesser models. So you would think the production models of the T-1000 were pre-programmed with detailed files on a T-850 and lesser model's weaknesses and how to easily defeat them in one on one confrontations.

[@laddiebuck12]

What an incredible movie. Wish they had made more than two.

[@stefan020290]

@@vinazbro he was sarcastic most tetminator Fans pretend the movies after the second dont exist because they are garbage.

[@concordetconstabulary219]

Vinaz T.V like the man said, if only they made more than two *cocks revolver and glares menacingly

[@leavingisbadliving3553]

Salvation is the only one i'm alright with.

[@asdflkj2041]

@@stefan020290 im okay with the 3rd

[@Grimblenork]

@@vinazbro he was clearly joking but you didn't even list rise of the machines. Total fail.

[@micpere1991]

I love how Robert Patrick managed to be just as intimidating as Arnold even tho Arnold towers over him. None of the other sequels can match their performances. Edit: for all the people that are saying both actors are about the same height. When I meant "tower", I should of elaborate, overall Arnold is simply "bigger", more muscular. Robert Patrick is lean. But the fact you have a slim guy be just as intimidating, even so more than a physically bigger guy is a testament to Robert's acting and body language. Rarely do you see the smaller guy be more scary imo. And yes, muscle mass doesn't matter because they are machines, but from a visual standpoint it's impressive for neither the T-800 or T-100 to overshadow the other.

[@Yokai_Yuri]

Exactly. Robert Patrick gave the feeling that he was a killer machine, cold and motionless, and it can use deception to fool its enemy. Nowadays terminator have the robot killer as a joke

[@waltermalone216]

Arnold is only two inches taller than Robert Patrick.

[@houssammoc9154]

@@waltermalone216 in recent photos Patrick looks taller than Arnold

[@neoasura]

Robert Patrick was more scary because he was a better infiltration unit, he looked like a regular normal human that acted human. Arnold was hard to believe as an infiltration unit when he stood out too much.

[@nyk3334]

Great point.

[@critical_mass8279]

What an amazing film. Nothing comes close to the quality of this film anymore.

[@DaveHutch-g5k]

I put this up against any movie for action and FX

[@andrewnesbitt2523]

3:14 is such a perfect scene for Patrick's character. In real life, he trained so hard to not blink whenever he fired in order to convey the singular goal of him being a machine with a one-track mind to kill his biggest. Amazing.

[@jr8958]

blinked at 3:24 then realized he wasnt suppose too lol

[@Nicole_Auriel]

The T-1000 looking at the Mannequin at 4:12 is such a brilliant idea and camera shot. Just a simple short scene like that is just so creative, I'd never think of anything like that.

[@grimm_destroyer5566]

Cause he is thinking that thing looks like his default form when he is in his liquid metal state

[@superyeah4ever2]

@@grimm_destroyer5566 Yeah that's it. You got it right.

[@grimm_destroyer5566]

@@superyeah4ever2 of course I'm Da Terminator he did throw me through a glass window lol

[@hansolo631]

You're absolutely bang-on. It's such a small detail, but while you're shooting in this random clothing store, when the VFX isn't done or even started so you're not even really sure what the t1000 looks like, to connect the mannequin to the t1000 is so... incredibly clever.

[@sleepCircle]

yeah it's fascinating because it doesn't just glance at the mannequin, its attention is fully caught. you can see t1000's eyes tracking the mannequin head as it walks past, like the t1000 is taking extra time trying to place this "familiar yet displaced-in-time picture of itself" before moving on with its job

[@flashkraft]

The red headed kid was so good at lying he fooled a T-1000 infiltration unit.

[@satouchiha1825]

I don't think it fooled it more than it was just asking and scanning for him. If they said no move on quickly if yes take it's time and question the person.

[@kannon1610]

The T-1000 is better at passing as a human than the T-800 (which was also good at it) but that doesn't make it necessarily a walking lie detector. The ability to more smoothly talk through a wider variety of situations before resorting to attention-drawing violence is most of its advantage in the specific area of infiltration.

[@fishanter6807]

flashkraft ikr

[@inkedseahear]

To be fair that T-1000 kept firing at the T-800 for so long, knowing it does nothing to the T-800

[@csmith4463]

Lol, Budnick from solute your shorts.

[@baldmoviebuff898]

Robert and Arnold CONVINCED us that they were machines. Their mannerisms, their facial expressions, their posture, their effort to learn how to shoot a gun(blanks or not) without blinking.

[@JLongbow]

I think that the T1000 in this movie is easily the scariest Terminator. He isn't big. He doesn't look threatening. But his eyes are dead. The eyes of a killer. His confidence and presence scream death. He can move like lightning and could literally be anybody. Terrifying.

[@Рудик-х1т]

I my 😍👍😇❤

[@RoyalKnightVIII]

That's what they were going for in the first one before Arnie was cast

[@damageincluded5823]

You nailed it. The T-1000 is a death machine. It knows no fear and does not even consider faling as an option.

[@madgavin7568]

What's more, its almost un-killable. Bullets can't stop it, explosions and bombs can only temporarily put it out of action at best. Even getting creative with fire and ice isn't enough. Even if you break it, it'll just repair itself by moulding back together. A liquid metal composition of unstoppable death. One of the most terrifying movie villains if you ask me.

[@scottprice4955]

@@madgavin7568 Its such a simple yet elegant way to upgrade the threat level. If the previous film villain is the good guy you have to make your new villain even stronger and they found such a clever little trick to make it work.

[@Caio.Marcelo]

This is just my opinion, but I think that James Cameron was trying to portray John as someone with natural talent for war games. Hence the scenes with him playing the arcades, it's him against the machine. That's awesome, no wasted scenes...

[@Whiplashed]

obviously...

[@builder396]

The game he is calling is called "Missile Command" and its about protecting 6 cities from a hail of ballistic missiles using counter-battery missiles yourself. He also loses.

[@benit3369]

@@builder396 what are you, the game whisperer?

[@pepe6666]

wow i didnt pick up on that. man this movie is full of so many images

[@majorbigss1]

This guy is woke!

[@Mac44598]

2:43 This is the best scene for me, it's so epic... if you think about it, this is the first time John sees a terminator, and he instantly recognized him, and at that moment he realized that everything his mother told him was true.

[@lanjaanwar9239]

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[@Seeker-wq8jc]

I think about this every time I watch the movie. Just before this event happens, John's still mad at Sarah for leading him down a path of "bullshit" and thinks she's looney as hell. He thought Terminators and the whole war wasn't real. And then the OH FUCK moment happens as TWO Terminators show up out of nowhere and start shooting at one another with John in the middle of it. Great stuff, man. There's still got to be so much confusion going on in John's mind, like no no no no, this can't be real, jesus christ what drugs did I take, this must be a bad dream and I'll wake up any second now. Meanwhile the reality is right there in front of him as two unknown guys are blowing the shit out of one another and somehow not dying, and it's immediately obvious these must be the Terminators his mother was talking about, and they're here for him. All the lies he hated his mother for and has been going through so much mental trouble over the past few years turns out to be real. And he has no time to think about it as he's forced to haul ass out of there.

[@TheSlammurai]

Right. I'd imagine Sarah would have described the T-800 to John, so when he sees a fucking giant with a shotgun, shades on, and dressed like a biker he immediately realized who it was.

[@jordanelza8806]

Yes. This scene, and the whole movie are still well done 30 years later. The special effects are great.

[@martinc3597]

I didn't realize that... Good eye... I just saw the 1st one yesterday and I haven't seen the 2nd one in so long!

[@DavidPunisher23]

One great small detail in the scene is that it shows John dominating and eventually beating Missile Command. To those youngbloods that are unaware, Missile Command was a popular video game where the goal is to prevent dozens of Missile strikes from destroying your cities. It is extremely clever foreshadowing about his ultimate destiny.

[@SushiBandit28]

Yeah, James Cameron in the director’s cut special features said he wanted it to be clear John was intellectually gifted but not come across as a “nerd” - the ATM hacking stuff was way beyond any normal adult in the 90s as well

[@mrbrianandrewsmith]

The unsung hero. A guy with a mullet you can actually trust.

[@bhowardist]

best comment ever

[@area51ville]

the 90s....that time they tried to make red headed mullets on Nickelodeon cool

[@rudy1999]

xD I had a mullet just like that when I was a kid

[@Dflowen]

@@area51ville he was part of the show called "Wild and Crazy Kids" I remember used Burbank Mall for the episode.

[@masteregg3661]

What about my boy snake?

[@yaboyed5779]

Still holds its own against modern era films😤👏🏽😍

[@QFilmz]

Bryan Mack I’m still completely baffled this movie was made in 1991 , that’s when I was born , it seems almost impossible since it was still the most talked about movie even till this day , it seems more like a 1999 movie , this shit was genius, best movie ever fucking made

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

I think this scene is timeless because: It has good and minimal use of CGI and mostly practical effects, using an intense but not over-the-top soundtrack and sound effects, no shaky cam but steady camera angles.

[@jja1483]

Ya boy Ed like a mf and the crazy thing is that sum of the stuff from this movie like the mimic of voice already exist😣

[@videowilliams]

Holds its own? I'd say it kicks their ass! But then the classics always do. This film is so precisely built from the ground up, and deeply thought through, it will not date.

[@generalaccount6531]

Modern flicks are apparently made for the audience with absolutley no attention span. This same classic scene in 2019 will probably have 100 cuts, shaky camera job, and super loud music lol

[@YourBoyWang]

Robert Patrick will always be Arnold’s best counterpart in any Terminator movie. He acted like he was concerned cop. Talked to the girls even with expression. The girls at the arcade, “Hi girls. Have you seen this boy?” Tells Johns Best Friend “Hey! You know this guy?” Perfect camouflage to blend in. It was the smallest detail in his character, but it was the biggest.

[@RacerXGTO]

Billy Idol was slated for the part, but it never transpired, enter Robert Patrick. Fun fact.

[@acewilliams7917]

@@RacerXGTO Billy Idol? You're kidding?

[@scottallen3907]

Even more than that, yes hes trying to play the concerned cop, but in the scene where he talks to the parents...you can tell something is a little off; you cant quite place it, but its there. Hes like 90% of the way there to being full human, but that 10% is what Robert Patrick did so well with this role.

[@daddydog9275]

@George Thomas lol I just brought that up to my friend. His eyes light up when they tell him the arcade. “The Galleria!?!”

[@twistedyogert]

@@RacerXGTO And all he did to get the part was glare at the camera.

[@Joshu-y1k]

The T-1000 is such a fantastic villain. Robert Patrick freaking killed it in this role!

[@vesaversion298]

Why is this movie so damn cool?? Even after so many years, still gives me chills: the acting, the effects, the sound, the villain, and ofcourse Arnold.

[@miltontavares9506]

Because it will always be cool.

[@rayromano6249]

Why....it's because it was made by the best director of all time. James Cameron 👍

[@barnacleboi2595]

The* Arnold.

[@bruta]

James Cameron was on fire back then with both Terminator movies and Alien 2, Arnold in his prime as well. Also notice how hardened Linda Hamilton becomes, with convincing physique and all around threatening compared to regular women, not like today's movies with 50 kg girls beating men three times their size. And most importantly there was no woke bullshit, no idiots lecturing you about genders pronouns patriarchy white supremacy etc to ruin your immersion. Can't believe I had to hear about "white privilege" in the recent Batman movie... all these add up one by one and you get a great movie, simple as

[@Ispeakthetruthify]

@@rayromano6249 Before he sold his soul.......

[@mackspowah3281]

Robert Patrick nailed this role man, one of the best movie villains ever!

[@atklm1]

Technically not a villain, just a machine following it's programming. "I can do no evil, for I don't know what it is".

[@robertmajewski4486]

I am Robert too :) i am from Poland :)

[@Zug75]

@@robertmajewski4486 ah the polish! the language seems russian tho.

[@sleazyfellow]

Every villain terminator after just does their best to recreate this performance. Definitely should of been the end of the franchise with this movie.

[@robertmajewski4486]

@@sleazyfellow You know i am from poland and my english still bad - - I sey to you in polish - do you use translator please ? - from polish to inglish - what you thing ? tell me

[@offspringfan89]

Robert Patrick was fantastic in this role, love how intense his facial expressions and running posture are, you know T-1000 meant business. Very underrated actor tbh.

[@worldgoneawry8906]

Indeed. Him and Michael biehn! 👍

[@ahmedmedooo1888]

Plees Ahtrak 🌷 🌷

[@reaganation6000]

At least he's rich

[@titsmcghee1086]

Until that same T-1000 got destroyed by Tony Soprano

[@gfcardi]

Yes. I thought he was pretty good in X-Files, when Mulder took a hiatus and then came back.

[@TheTatermeister]

James Cameron will never top this masterpiece i feel but I'm excited everytime we get a movie from him.

[@canadianadmiral8082]

The first time they did the scene where the T-1000 chases John’s motorbike, Robert Patrick actually “ruined” the shot because he was faster than the bike, and caught John Connor

[@deathrager2404]

david scatino*. degenerate gambler. owes money to certain... friends of ours

[@ry77623]

really? That's astonishing!!

[@musicmakespeace]

are you for real?

[@DD-tv5ze]

Some watches fact fiend as well lmao

[@TheFlash3237]

@@musicmakespeace Yup. It's true. He caught up with the bike a couple of times. The time they got it right, he had to start running from farther to avoid the same mistake again.

[@dars5229]

Thirty years later, and despite all the improvements in cinematography and special effects, hardly anybody can make a film this good. James Cameron got better performances out of two athletes than some directors can get out of classically trained actors.

[@TheSamuraijim87]

Honestly, that's part of what's tragic about James Cameron's more recent showings. Because as amazing as this film is - it's definitely an all time great - James Cameron has fallen a long way, and his filmmaking is now all but dependent on CGI and special effects. Look at "Avatar" and "Alita", both entirely dependent on visuals. Even "Aliens", as much as that is a classic, loses much of the Lovecraftian spirit Ridley Scott was trying to convey with "Alien & Prometheus". My fifty cents.

[@dars5229]

@@TheSamuraijim87 You're absolutely right. Like, Robert Patrick said one of the hardest parts of playing the T-1000 was not blinking when firing a gun. And I say this with love for the guy, he's not exactly some classically trained Shakespearean actORE. But you as the audience really do buy into him as an inhuman killing machine because of little details like that, which Robert Patrick put the effort into. But now that's no achievement. If they filmed it now and he accidentally blinked, they'd fix it with CGI. Which is so unimpressive that you'd kinda expect it. So you end up with the likes of Avatar and Alita, which look so good that they look shit.

[@TheSamuraijim87]

@@dars5229 i mean, personally, i'm happy for a film to look overwhelmingly good. Even technologically groundbreaking like "Avatar". When i saw that film in cinemas, the visuals were so groundbreaking and so vibrant, i actually teared up a little. I'd never seen graphics like it. I can honestly appreciate and respect the overwhelming work hours the artists sometimes take to rewrite the CGI rulebook. One of my best friends is a graphic artist, and there are equally huge work-hours to make amazing CGI as to train in a really difficult technique (and much less recognition IMHO). But when a film is solely and completely visual, without anything underneath, there's nothing material, no substance to the film. In my opinion, "Avatar" is almost identical to "The Last Samurai", which itself copies dozens of other stories with the same "person from evil empire goes native to save peaceful land from industrialization". It's cliche. There wasn't anything original in the film. It was unoriginal. And i personally have found that James Cameron has spent less and less time engaged in creating an amazing story and hoping to compensate for lack of story with effects. But this film is classic, because while it doesn't exactly have a groundbreaking plot, it still works, and even though there's VFX, they don't overwhelm the tale. And as you say, much of this film's physical presence was the result of the work of the actors - Arnie, Linda, Robert Patrick. So there's a very human element to it that can be respected.

[@JohnLutherable]

@@TheSamuraijim87 I disagree. first of all, Alita is Robert Rodriguez'. Avatar, while being underwhelming from a storyline standpoint, is still an incredible spectacle to watch, the action in that movie is so well choreographed you can hardly find such technically perfect storytelling in any other action movie. Aliens was an action-horror, a completely different genre than the first, and it excelled at that. The less we talk about that pile of garbage that was Prometheus, the better

[@TheSamuraijim87]

@@JohnLutherable I don't deny that Alita was Robert Rodriguez'. It undeniably was his film as director. But if you've ever worked in any kind of creative endeavour, you would know that the Producer is by far the most powerful voice on set. Any producer has tremendous control, but with a producer of James Cameron's reputation and resume, that would completely override any other voice, particularly one as young and glam focused as Rodriguez (whose film making already tends toward the visual). The film was completely in James Cameron's hands, to the point that Alita was delayed solely for reasons of James Cameron's availability. It also displays all the hallmarks of a James Cameron film. I very much disagree regarding Avatar. It is, as Shakespeare once said, "full of sound and fury, but symbolizing nothing". And I didn't deny that Aliens was good sci fi, but it completely misses the point of the universe Scott (and Lovecraft) created. Why enter someone else's franchise if you don't understand the fundamental theme of the films? Aliens is flashy, and a big spectacle, but is still victim to Cameron's lack of talent for crafting compelling stories. Prometheus is flawed, i don't doubt, but the quality of storytelling is still leagues beyond the Cameron entries. Building a film is like building a house. It needs to start with a solid foundation and framework. In the absence of such, it's just a long sequence of frivolity. And it means nothing. And that was the point i was making. If you like films that are mostly just effects, all power to you, you have that right.

[@heyheyhey0h]

Huge shout out to Johns mate, he never rats out friends.

[@_Snapper]

rare these days

[@CrazyIcehockeyFan]

That boy could have just told the T-1000 that John Connor went the other way

[@mozamboni]

❤ for Butnik

[@taoist32]

That’s Danny Cooksey. Another child actor that was destined for greatness.

[@Some-kid-called-David]

As John’s mate, he was probably involved in the same amount of misdeeds as John. Like stealing from a cashpoint earlier in the film

[@unknown-vz8tv]

0:40 These girls survived by talking to the T-1000. Looking back, I think they were very lucky. 2:15 It's amazing to see the T-1000's expression change the moment he spots his target. 3:08 This was the moment I was surprised when I first saw it. I was surprised that the T-800, who was the enemy in the first movie, was an ally in this one.

[@al821]

Can’t believe this movie is almost 30 years old.

[@abercioquinn1078]

Still holds up even today! True masterpiece.

[@shaggy4real97]

And I think it aged like wine

[@susojota9404]

@@abercioquinn1078 yes

[@susojota9404]

@@shaggy4real97I am 24 years olD thIs year

[@susojota9404]

Iyaehhh

[@nibuck53]

The intensity of this scene is amazing. You got two terminators looking for John Connor and you don’t know who’s the protector until 3:09. Great scene and great sequel to the original.

[@stevencoardvenice]

Just like Rees in tek noir

[@auto2112]

I dunno, Cameron fucked up the twist by playing 'Bad to the Bone' when Arnie walks out of the bar at the beginning, it is absolutely baffling why he decided to do that.

[@avtar549]

I just realized that actually, at this point in the movie, we don't even know he's a Terminator yet. He comes through looking human, punches a cop to steal his gun(presumably kills him, but we don't actually know for sure based on how the scene is shot), and takes the car. Until this scene we don't see any of the liquid metal effects or anything, so we can just assume he's human like Kyle Reese(similar build even), and took the cop's clothes in the opening., and Arnie's the villain again. It's too bad the tone is off(Bad to the Bone for Arnie, evil sounding music for Robert Patrick), so the twist really doesn't land. Also the ads spoiled it all at the time.

[@dylanhealy8126]

@@avtar549I think anyone who kills a cop is clearly the bad guy. Human or not, they wouldn’t just knock the cop out and take his clothes, they’d have to kill him otherwise they leave a living witness. And, IMO, the protector should know John’s whereabouts, so the T-1000 searching for his address in the squad car computer is another way to show he’s the villain Also, even before John talks to the T-800 about not killing, I don’t believe he actually kills anyone in the bar, and he only attempts to kill the two guys in the parking lot after they cuss John out. We know at that point that he’s the protector tho.

[@raminatox]

Didn't they spoil that in the trailer?

[@kin4386]

At the time, this scene a was masterful showcase of subverting expectations. We're told at the beginning that one assassin and one protector were sent after John. We see the two of them appear, one takes the position of a cop, the other is the same looking man who hunted Sarah before. So naturally you'd assume that it's Arnold who's the assassin and Patrick the protector, but it's the other way around, and the way they show reveal that in this scene must have left SO many first time watchers shocked and confused.

[@chimpdongs]

Also if you think about it, the T-1000 doesn't have specific specialised parts, the alloy its made of is the same subunit all over its body. It doesn't have a designated space for a processor/CPU etc. That means every part of its body fulfils those functions, which means every time it takes a bullet to the body, it experiences a minor temporary disruption to its system. Shotgun shells near point blank cause larger wounds, which means the T-1000 is stunned for longer, which is why its temporarily down and out when gunned down.

[@WaterCrane]

The impression I got is that it's essentially made out of nanomachines, where each small block of polyalloy is an independent functioning unit, although only able to perform higher-level processing as a collective due to the small size of the processors.

[@sparrowlt]

didnt the novel said back in the day that to Terminators normal small arms fire was just "just another data to process" ?

[@carljohan9265]

Also, you'll notice that the T-1000 never heals it's wounds while it's moving. It always has to stand still to do it, as it takes processing power to alter it's physical form. The only time you see it move as it's doing that is when it's slipping though the bars at the asylum, and it's moving very slowly to do that.

[@MilanousMedia]

@@carljohan9265 i think that was more the limitations of the effects at the time

[@carljohan9265]

@@MilanousMedia nah, they always make a very clear point of it stopping whenever it shapeshifts, including fixing bullet holes.

[@CatsMeowPaw]

That scene where Arnold reveals the shotgun still gives me chills today.

[@apurugganan]

@Jason Lee Trater GnR's song 's (You will be mine IIRC) playing in the mall was background music

[@garrison0532082]

Maybe best few seconds of entire movie. It kinda slows down and is just so badass

[@lupinthe3rdrobberyincorporated]

@Jason Lee Trater Where did he get that shotgun in a rose box?

[@lupinthe3rdrobberyincorporated]

@Jason Lee Trater Was their a deleted scene that told us.

[@lupinthe3rdrobberyincorporated]

@Jason Lee Trater Gotcha.

[@LightStreak567]

John's red haired friend is the unsung hero of the movie.

[@vse_vozmojno_nnn]

I think it should have been filmed in the Terminator franchise, deservedly so

[@crimsonator]

Budnick?

[@sindorim0417]

He saved 3 billion

[@LightStreak567]

@@sindorim0417 He saved the survivors who will witness Judgment Day

[@Thrashaero]

yeah, Danny Cooksey from Salute Your Shorts series on Nickelodeon

[@LetsTalkStamps]

This masterpiece was made 33 years ago and the special effects still hold up today 🔥

[@Shadowkey392]

Fun Fact: Robert Patrick actually can run that fast.

[@sulejmaniapologist]

Used to.

[@robg4729]

Yeah, but the bike is only going about 25mph so it looks like he can keep up. In real life that bike goes 50mph but they weren't going full speed to make Patrick look faster.

[@SHADOWACTUAL]

They had to reshoot it three times because he caught the stunt rider the first time.

[@robg4729]

@@SHADOWACTUAL You realise a person can only run about 25mph right? And a bike like that can go 40-60mph. What is it you don't understand? The bike wasn't going full speed so of course it was easy for him to keep up with it.

[@robg4729]

@I'm Your President Usain Bolt can only run 28mph. But you somehow think robert Patrick is twice as fast as the fastest person ever.

[@GabsDabs9000]

Those little girls just snitched on humanity

[@princeofdarknessxyz1]

one of them played by nikki cox

[@silverphoenix9204]

Those MFs, it’s the whole reason this started.

[@jawsy4648]

Trust me they aren't little anymore Lmao

[@KeyboardBuster]

Snitches get stitches

[@JS-gi8gw]

@@KeyboardBuster damn right

[@zidiousg8119]

Only 9 more years until T-1000's starts being made.

[@RobertJohnson-mn3br]

I’m buying one

[@actionfigurescollectionssu7854]

Holy shit we’re fucked

[@LedosKell]

It's fine I'm signed up to be a colonist on the SpaceX flight to LV426.

[@StarFX-nm2rp]

@@LedosKell ayy my man I did too although my application is still pending

[@LowRes_Corgi56]

Nah man Imma get my pulse rifle

[@dannyliebeno4108]

I really appreciate how the Terminators don't talk when they fight!

[@redacted2275]

They're shy

[@robjackson5245]

They're machines. They're built to fight one another. It's cold and analytical. The original T800 took this too its purest levels of non-Anglo white "Friends"-watching(since it was a villain)dom. It even had a more Penelope Cruz English accent than Arnie's usual Latin English accent.

[@tdevil101]

“Get Down” Man, I wish I was alive then so I can watch this film in theaters to experience the thrill of learning that Arnold was the good guy. I bet everyone was blown away.

[@olympusmons657]

the crowd reaction to the way he reloaded his shotgun was epic

[@RoChede]

Yes, we were !

[@SamShortzYT]

Just watched it at the cinema today

[@liquidmetal5616]

@@SamShortzYT how?

[@braxbro7602]

I watched this for the first time at home and I was blown away by that twist!

[@sparephone9967]

I love how Robert Patrick trained himself to not blink when shooting that Beretta.

[@starwarsroo2448]

One handed, looked impressive, especially the efficient reload

[@philmikehunt7479]

@Miura nice pfp

[@geffolenord3125]

This film still rocks my brain chambers boys.Aaaaarrrrrhhh

[@KaosMasterX]

@Miura they trained hard for the role, both of them have tons of gun training, especially arnold to move like a robot and shoot like one.

[@scannaunderscore1]

And it has an invisible surpressor

[@richardjarquin9498]

This movie, mortal kombat, all Jim Carey movies in the 90s, home alone, spawn, Friday hold a special place in my heart. Forever stuck in the 90s

[@shaiffrittervan9771]

Same bro

[@JeroldBoy0407]

Jurassic Park?

[@richardjarquin9498]

@@JeroldBoy0407 there’s plenty movies I left out. I named the ones that popped in my head at the moment

[@Thunderchild-gz4gc]

90s rule.

[@hectorlopez1069]

Correct bro

[@saratoga4126]

Hope Robert Patrick will do the voice over for T-1000 in MK1 and hope Ed can get Arnie to dubbed Conan this time

[@kaihedgie1747]

It's been confirmed Patrick is reprising his role.

[@Ninja_Koopa]

​@@kaihedgie1747 Nice!!!

[@hehehehaw8346]

Cool!

[@Vgamer311]

Fun fact: to prepare for the role, Robert Patrick actually replaced all of the flesh in his body with liquid metal.

[@NewPSCity]

LMAO 😂😂

[@maurotaffijn6147]

Just imagine that lol

[@katicailijevski7516]

terminator je najbolji covek na svetu

[@HacksignKT]

seems legit

[@ahmedmedooo1888]

Plees Ahtrak 🌷 🌷 🌷

[@Motorhead1977]

I have to give Robert Patrick credit here. If you notice when he’s shooting at Arnold, he’s not flinching. He trained himself for three weeks to do that. Big props to you, bro!

[@Mihoyminoy124]

He is such am underrated actor definitely the best enemy terminator in the terminator franchise

[@Apolo76]

How can it be a real gun duh?

[@floridaman2806]

@@Apolo76 the gun is firing blanks it is still a real gun

[@finc4164]

@@Apolo76 all the guns are real, you idiot. Hollywood uses blanks, get a clue.

[@keaponlaffin6737]

@@finc4164 lol dont need to call him an idiot right away. Lay off the coffee fella

[@mstyle2006]

I was 8 years old when my dad took me to the cinema and I had already watched T1. This experience for me at the cinema was one of the most memorable moments of my life and for the love of films. I remember the feeling to every single scene, the unexpected special effects, the action, the plot twist!, the smell of popcorn, Pepsi in a wax-coated cup and cigarrettes. I also remember my dad caughting me crying when Arnold gave his thumb up when shutting down. Epic moments. Love you guys.

[@cccspwn]

"I know now why you cry, but it is something I could never do..."

[@superx9619]

Smoking in the movie theater. The good ol' days!

[@OneofInfinity.]

@@superx9619 Lets get them back after we retake our world.

[@trilexfix]

@@superx9619 I don't remember smoking in theaters but I do remember smoking sections in restaurants, the last time I remember having that option was in 2006 when I traveled to Michigan from California.

[@yankees29]

It was the greatest experience I ever had at the cinema hands down. I was 14 and I will never forget being on the edge of my seat the whole movie.

[@Petothegreatone]

They don't make them like this anymore. This is a true classic.

[@Miakel]

The irony that John plays the missile defence game, which is literally about stopping missiles and protecting humanity

[@stesilaus1688]

I'm glad other people noticed it. I never thought I'd see the old "Missile Command" arcade game used in a "foreshadowing" scene! :-)

[@HaosGriffon]

Dunno if it was intentional but the fact that there's no ending to the game, it just keeps getting more and more difficult until you ultimately lose, also fits with the ambiguous sense of the future at the movie's end.

[@christiancole4875]

And he was beating that games ass. Shows he was built to protect humanity.

[@johndonwood4305]

@Michael No, that's a coincidence. Irony would be if John was launching the missiles.

[@maximummatt73]

Yeah and he was also playing Afterburner, which was one cool-ass game

[@userr_742]

That “Get down” always gives me goosebumps

[@sallydavies9253]

Yeh love it always quote it when talking about arnie.

[@userr_742]

@@sallydavies9253 yeah, that accent 😂

[@lilmane1070]

SO fucking TRUE, never gets old for me

[@julkasteven8198]

I can only imagine what audience felt Like when hearing That "Get down" for the first time.

[@1981deloreanfan]

This movie had one of the best red herrings ever. The original trailers for this movie and the previous scenes perfectly misled the audience to thinking the terminator was the villain again. It is not until he says, “get down!” everyone realizes he is actually the hero.

[@pig1114]

yeah, in the trailer.

[@Arifmeticus]

In the movie it is very clear that T-1000 is a bad guy. He kills a cop and the music gives it away too.

[@VicenzoV]

@@Arifmeticus The T-800 is prepared to kill everything that gets in his way too. His mission is to protect John Connor, but he is also a bad guy. That's why John teaches him he cannot just kill people.

[@nik774]

This is subverting expectations done right. Unlike The last Jedi and The last of us 2.

[@Marcatolegato]

@@VicenzoV the T800 cannot kill in this movie and it is shown in the bar and guess why - because on one would have accepted him as protector for john if he had killed people - film psychology you know - even the guy that gets stabbed in the bar will survive becaurse he can talk clearly and that means his respiration are normal

[@aaronleblanc9276]

They should never have caved to the pressure of creating additional sequels.

[@markus5985]

You have to remember; when the first people watched this movie in the cinemas, nobody knew that the T-800 was on John Connors's side. Giving the scene where John is surrounded by both the T-800 and T-1000 a whole different meaning and the entire plot twist of the movie Terminator vs Terminator.

[@DjVortex-w]

Actually not really true. Maybe it was the case with people who succeeded in avoiding all spoilers, but the vast majority of people (especially in the early 90's) weren't very wary of spoilers (it was a time when "movie spoilers" weren't really thought of as something to avoid), and were fully aware that the Schwarzenegger-looking terminator was the good guy in this movie, and didn't even notice that the first quarter of the movie is supposed to be very ambiguous about who's who, and who's on whose side, and what the terminator is there for. At many places 99.9% of people already knew from the very start that he was there to help Connor, so they got completely spoiled, and didn't get this "surprise twist" in this scene at all. I know, I lived that time. Yes, I was spoiled too. I was too young and naive to understand the importance.

[@deno202]

@@DjVortex-w The feeling when my kids will watch Terminator 1&2 and I can proudly say " I lived that time" XD

[@AC-LING666]

are you serious ? The trailer gave away the whole film

[@mariagabriela4034]

@@DjVortex-w 9oppiiii

[@bohoward8945]

@@AC-LING666 it really did.unless u missed the trailer u wouldnt know

[@nochill9475]

Ahh the nostalgia! The arcades, the Pepsi, the mall, the fashion, his haircut, the cars, etc. Truth is, there never be a time like the 90s!

[@elchino6181]

Obviously cause it was the 90s

[@nochill9475]

@@elchino6181 well yeah it's obvious, but look at it this way, every 90s kid knows the way of the old and the young.

[@elchino6181]

No Chill I was born in 99 so I don't think it counts

[@nochill9475]

@@elchino6181 oh sorry man! Well at least you got good taste in movies. You should look up all the action thrillers and action comedy's of the 80s&90s. Lethal weapon, John Claude van damme films, Steven seigal, Beverly Hills cop 1&2, predator, blade (although blade was in the 00s, I think?) the matrix, James bonds, etc, etc What sets these movies apart is there is no cgi, a real person is doing the stunts, also most of these are shot on location. The matrix's and blades, are where you can see the cgi. Also I'm not sure how much you like horror films, but horror was something else, the exorcist (you've probably seen that), scream, Freddy krugar that's not the name of the film but you'll find it with that, alien (action/horror), Halloween, etc, etc I know you're old enough to understand that it's fake, but when your 5-15 you'd be shitting yourself! I think most of them have an 18/R certificate?

[@nochill9475]

@SymptomString1914 I do and I don't, I do because come on, it's the 90s, I don't because there are loads of things that have been invented since. Mobile phones are given, yeah the 90s had phones but they were the infamous Nokia 3310 and sisters, and you had to be old enough to get one, but those phones were just phones. Now with all these touch screen www. WiFi all in one contraptions that even a 5 year old walks around with I'm quite glad we have them. I couldn't be in quarantine without my phone!

[@lucianobruzzone537]

Fun fact: Robert Patrick is actually a T1000 and is now pretending to be an actor. God he was awesome as a villain.

[@Awelbeckk]

No, he is human. T-1000 are fictionnal

[@Awelbeckk]

@Jude Van Matre Oh look! Another moron to mistake KZbin for Reddit.

[@thunderthys2077]

@@Awelbeckk you both gay

[@oogabooga2337]

Awelbeckk r/woooosh

[@Kyleroo]

@@Awelbeckk Congratulations, Captain Obvious.

[@lindsaymonroe567]

It’s rare you see a film that is a masterclass in EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of it, even the greatest of movies usually still only excel in 1 or 2 areas over others but this film fully fires on all cylinders in acting, writing, special effects, sound design, cinematography, music and directing it’s insane

[@luwucian4497]

4:12 *It's funny to think that the T 1000 analyzed that silver mannequin to see if it was a prototype or something similar* Also: It's a nice touch from the director. We still didn't know that the real shape of the T 1000 was completely silver but he gave us that hint.

[@BruhBot-jp8ev]

nice

[@Jan-xf8sk]

Foreshadowing

[@MarioVAmaya]

I always loved that bit when the T1000 stares at the mannequin head, as if thinking, maybe the humans might have seen one like himself before...

[@kendrick6387]

It’s also funny for the people that have seen the movie before

[@heartnet40]

I love the advantages of both the T-800 and the T-1000 on display throughout the move. The T-800 is solid: It will not receive substantial damage unless hit with some extremely heavy artillery so that means that it can just keep enduring and attacking under most circumstances. The disadvantage is that it will be worn down. The longer a fight goes on the less effective it's armor will be since it will continue to break down without repaid. It means that early on the T-800 is almost impossible for the 1000 to defeat conventionally. But the longer this chase for John Conner goes on, the less difficult it's fights with the T-800 become. The T-1000 however isn't able to handle intense combat. There's very little that can effectively destroy it due to its liquid metal nature, but it recoils, reconstructing takes time, and it overall has to be more reactive to fights because even if it's strong, it's lack of heavy, dense armor means it's going to get flailed around a lot. Great contrast. This conflict is one of the many reasons why this movie still kicks so much ass today.

[@mbpm6135]

Good breakdown.

[@MiguelRodriguez-dk2ds]

@@mbpm6135 What if we had a 3-way battle T-800 vs T-1000 vs Evil T-1000.

[@projektkobra2247]

T1000 is also susceptible to chemicals.

[@satan899]

@@projektkobra2247 so is the t800 Chemicals that can dissolve away liquid metal can also dissolve solid metal

[@I_luv_my_fans]

They both are unable to destroy one another with normal weapons and hand to hand fighting. The t800 would lose its skin but nothing else would get damaged and the t1000 just regenerates itself back to normal each time. Both are evenly matched. Only in a metal works factory did they both take substantial damage due to the environment

[@lawrencekin02]

I don't care about what anyone says.... T2 is the greatest action film ever made. This T-800 vs T1000 confrontation/chase scene is the best one ever.

[@elm889]

so true and no matter the amount of CGI none of the latest films will ever compete with the spirit of which this film was created.

[@ivanarcheous4731]

The T1000 sells it so well, the first take they took with the motorbike scene he caught up with the motorcycle. And he sprints without even breathing heavily

[@breaks3085]

This movie is weird two men fighting over a boy.

[@tylerdurden9923]

@@breaks3085 maybe you should edit your comment once more.

[@elm889]

I grew up with this film and to me the SPIRIT of the film and the way in which it was made, all the newest movies in the world with all the amazing advancement in CGI will never compare IMO. Lots of the action and stunts were actually done and you can feel that authenticity in it. Nothing against new movies as some are great, but unfortunately a lot of them have a "play it safe" formula, not enough risk takng in film, spoken from someone who loves all films :D so no need to get offended Niko niko LOL

[@Adultguj]

2:20 that menacing dead eyed stare once he locked down his target. He nailed that robotic nature of a Terminator.

[@TheAmbientUniverse]

One of the greatest scenes in Terminator history because it surprised us by turning the most evil villain into the coolest protagonist with the one unforgettable line "Get down"