FlashTap Revolutionizes Arcade Buttons with Blazing Speed!

[@MichaelHarto]

There has to be a point of diminishing return for button travel distance.

[@TheJakeJackson]

There's no advantage whatsoever to shorter than normal travel. Your fingers to not rest directly on the button (unless you build higher actuation force switches like I do), therefore your total travel is down to the distance your hand hovers above the stick. Button travel is irrelevant.

[@HushMySweet1]

Probably so. I remember the optical controller Jamsta sent me to test (which was awesome btw), but the sensors didn't have feedback like a normal button press. And I found it was something I missed. Still super rad controller though.

[@JessicaFEREM]

@@TheJakeJackson I play osu, you're fulla crap. there is absolutely a difference.

[@momo.ru-kun]

​@@JessicaFEREMhe is right. many fighting games have timing programmed into them make the press too fast and they cancel out the keystroke. for example if you play 3rd strike in leverless, it is better to press the buttons slow to register the half circle, if you do it too fast, the programming will think you are pressing simultaneous buttons, that's why there are input delays in FG unlike in many other games, FGs have multiple keystrokes putting in an input delay lets the game understand what you are actually pressing. if there are no delays it will not be able to figure out whether you are doing motion controls. these buttons are only good for action buttons. when you put them in direction buttons they are garbage

[@momo.ru-kun]

​@@JessicaFEREMalso you have five fingers in each hand, so you still need to lift your fingers to press other buttons. so the button may have few millimeters for actuation, but everybody does differently once they lift their hands and fingers to press other buttons. so really actuation distance is garbage. what you want is find the appropriate actuation force that is just right for your finger muscle

[@BeAsT1x5]

Once the switches are able to be hot swappable it’s gonna be a great time

[@MuToiDMaN]

Oh? What kind of microswitch would you be throwing in there?

[@HushMySweet1]

Interesting! Would you go stiffer than their offering here? Or the other direction?

[@teddydore]

@@HushMySweet1I wouldn’t know personally without trying it myself, but the peace of mind being able to swap the switch if it starts acting up or just wanting to experiment would be a massive upside

[@thebigbient8736]

Have them installed on my new Punk Workshop stick. They are the BEST buttons hands down!

[@IAmYous3f]

I installed the flashtap v2 on my victrix leverless . They are amazing and I prefer them over the qanba gravity ks and gamerfinger buttons. The low travel distance is really a game changer. I'm still learning SF6 but since release , there were many combos that I often drop and can barely do them in training mode and online matches but after installing them, it felt like I can do them easily now. They just feel right to me and I am really glad I bought them

[@HushMySweet1]

Awesome! Glad they are working so well for you! Thanks for watching and for commenting!

[@LendinSwiftbolt]

You know, this personally wouldn't be for me (even something like an optical switch or low-profile choc switch feels a little too short in total travel distance for me), but the connection prongs being connected sideways would totally be something I'd want a button, plus more options is always cool. I wonder how these would feel for the movement buttons of a leverless, honestly. Appreciate the review, Hush!

[@HushMySweet1]

That's an interesting idea. So you would potentially use these as the movement and then more traditional fare for your action buttons on the right hand? I'll have to see if I can snag some 24mm ones to see how that would feel. Thanks for watching, Lendin! Always nice to see ya!

[@ryanearley8748]

Wow, they’ve finally made the button I always wanted!

[@MuToiDMaN]

I've wondered a bit why arcade buttons have never ventured into the territory of mouse-style microswitches. Too much clinging to the tradition of having 3-4mm total travel? It'll be interesting to see how these sell. Might inspire a movement! Especially for helping out with slide motions.

[@HushMySweet1]

Yeah, it will be cool to see if these get fully embraced or not. First signs point to yes (at least in Japan) because supposedly the allocated run of 24mm buttons sold out in 7 minutes. So, if we believe that then there definitely appears to be a market. Thanks for watching and weighing in with your thoughts! Good to see ya, dude.

[@MichaelHarto]

@@MuToiDMaN as crazy as it sounds, mouse switches probably has too much resistance and too short of travel distance...

[@julianmorgan79]

Im sure it allows faster counter hit reaction, dashing and crouching, but combos require strict timing that isn't always based on fast inputs but rather an input made on the correct frame, probably going to take some getting used to.

[@MuToiDMaN]

I'm sure! But I bet it's easier than learning leverless for the first time!

[@mustang12345]

Once the OneFrame (Tokido's button) drop, it would be great if you can make a comparison of the two. They seem to try to achieve the same goal. I've mainly played on Haute42 with the Kailh Low profile, but I have order a Fightbox to play on full arcade button and being able to use those kind of "fast" button.

[@HushMySweet1]

Yeah, I'll have to see about getting some of those. Cool idea!

[@mustang12345]

@@HushMySweet1 You can also compare it to the Punkworkshop Blaze 😁. Those new buttons with mouse switches are the new hot things it seems. To be honest I don't like the feel of Sanwa button for leverless (play with them on stick for more than 20 years though), and pure keyboard switches have a too long total travel distance. So i'm very curious about those "fast" switches.

[@jaredho7676]

i’d love to try these if they had a screw in version. not a fan of snap in buttons since some of my sticks have too thick of a plate to actually snap in, alongside the usual long term durability stuff

[@HushMySweet1]

That's an interesting point and I too, prefer the screw in over snap-in if given the option.

[@nobodyslemons5902]

Please make a video to announce when they become available for the US market. I ordered the new Punkworkshop Blaze buttons, and I want to try all the different low travel buttons.

[@SpidersSTG]

Interesting! I’d like to see how they compare to Crown or the Alutimo mechanicals. I feel like those are the sweet spot for me of being able to rest my fingers on the button without getting an accidental press.

[@HushMySweet1]

Yeah, these will take some getting used to (and I use a lot of Crown 202s in my builds, so I feel your comment)

[@Chris_F]

Just waiting for them so sell a key switch only model since these won’t work in most leverless controllers (aside from ASI and Punk workshop afaik)

[@HushMySweet1]

That would be pretty cool. Here's hoping they branch out!

[@slatt_lvlup]

great review still waiting for the oneframe buttons

[@HushMySweet1]

I imagine these will be pretty comparable? But yeah, I'll have to see how they stack up. Thanks for watching, dude!

[@slatt_lvlup]

@@HushMySweet1 has the best fightstick reviews

[@HushMySweet1]

Appreciate ya, dude!

[@r1sing766]

have you tried the quiet set? how do they feel?

[@HushMySweet1]

I haven't tried anything from FlashTap beyond what you saw here, but hopefully I can make some vids on other products of theirs in the future. Thanks for watching!

[@uwabamiJohnny]

Loving the connection points being horizontal. But unfortunately these are snap ins, which are a dealbreaker for me. I'll just be waiting for a screw in version 😔

[@HushMySweet1]

I also prefer screw-ins over snap-in, but I suppose it is what it is at the moment. The horizontal prongs are pretty classy to help keep those builds looking thin and elegant. Thanks for watching!

[@MasakiChamploo]

Are these the tokido buttons?

[@HushMySweet1]

The Tokido ones are OneFRAME branded, I believe. But these FlashTap operate on those similar mouse-click-esque principles.

[@ohpeep3723]

There is also oneframe button, also from Japan

[@HushMySweet1]

I'll have to grab some of those eventually. See how they compare. Thanks for the idea!

[@babixillo]

yeah i think i remember tokido advertising it, did it actually released?

[@ohpeep3723]

@@babixillo It will be shipped next month, the 24mm one already sold out though.

[@ardidsonriente2223]

Super interesting!

[@HushMySweet1]

Indeed! Some day everyone will have a button built just perfectly for them it seems, lol.

[@ardidsonriente2223]

@@HushMySweet1 I actually have dreamed of a pad controller made with mouse buttons, every one of them located just where your fingertips touch the pad.

[@DeanJayJackmanJr]

I must have these. Can't wait for the drop.

[@DeanJayJackmanJr]

Been checking the website daily. Sadly seems like sales are only shipping in Japan at the moment. Perhaps later this month?

[@HushMySweet1]

Sounds like they had some issues with the planned global launch. Their Twitter said "...Due to unexpected issues, we are unable to start global sales at this time. The start of sales at 8:00 PM on November 9th will be limited to Japan only. We apologize for any inconvenience and appreciate your patience as we work to resolve this. We will address these issues as quickly as possible to open global sales..." *I don't know if this will still be in November for the rest of the world or not. Fingers crossed for you!

[@DeanJayJackmanJr]

@@HushMySweet1 Thank you so much for providing the update here. I sincerely appreciate it. I hope there will be a way. I'm about to try a proxy mail service but I'm reading slightly sketchy things... I'll just practice patience and refine the design I want to jam these into. I'm working on a fusion box with the new Arkodd D Pad module and hopefully these lovely Flash Tapz ;3

[@HushMySweet1]

@@DeanJayJackmanJr I've had to go the proxy buy/ship route myself before (Brazil instead of Japan) but the experience was fine if you needed some peace of mind. I suppose like most things, do your research before committing to the proxy service, but I would imagine it wouldn't be too hard to find a trusted one in Japan. Regardless! I hope you get what you need at some point. Thanks for watching!

[@IAmYous3f]

I used a proxy service as well to get mine delivered to the middle east. The service was slow but I got and only paid 10$ for shipping which was not bad imo ​@@HushMySweet1

[@TravkidTV]

Awesome video. Are these buttons actually Tactile Switches like a Mouse or Brown/Blue switches? Pretty much all current buttons on the market are more like Linear/Red Switches. I would really like to find a button that gives me some resistance, like the switches on the mouse. Until Tokido releases his OneFrame buttons, I'm looking for an alternative

[@HushMySweet1]

These look pretty similar to those Tokido buttons, really. The feel isn't quite like a brown or blue just because the travel is so short. Based on what you've said, these would likely be up your alley. Good luck!

[@TravkidTV]

@@HushMySweet1 Thank you for your reply, I appreciate that. While the travel time is important, I'm a lot more curious about whether it's a tactile switch like a Mouse/Blue/Brown switch. Would you just say that this is a linear/red switch with insanely short travel distance?

[@HushMySweet1]

@@TravkidTV They are binned Kailh GM9.0 switches (with tolerances between 55-60GF and 60-65GF being used in the FlashTap stuff) Here's more info on the switches from the company themselves: x.com/TonyJP2021/status/1835253904675938343

[@TravkidTV]

@@HushMySweet1 Thank you!!!

[@vthegrigori9137]

Sounds strange... Pretty interesting, though, minus the tedious customization 😅. I'm very curious to try these.

[@HushMySweet1]

Yeah, it's one of these things that I'll have to spend more time with as well. Seems very novel right now, but when that wears off I may have a better idea/understanding. Thanks for watching/commenting, dude!

[@YaYa-ex8cu]

It feels like a mouse click. That would be because they are mice switches.

[@amr-OH]

I think sanwa buttons already actuate with too little force Im a bit too heavy handed for these

[@HushMySweet1]

That's fair. Thank you for watching and commenting all the same, however! I appreciate it.

[@tokyobassist]

I smash the hell out of my buttons so fast actuation won't make a difference for me lol.

[@HushMySweet1]

My man! lol

[@jaysboredman]

Leverless command throw mains rejoice 🎉

[@HushMySweet1]

:D

[@therealeightabove]

These seem cool but I rest my fingers on the buttons when I play and I bet I'd be accidentally pressing them all the time.

[@HushMySweet1]

I hear ya. Most of the time I go with slightly stiffer stuff (think dark yellows) so I can rest the fingertips a bit. We shall see.

[@NewGabeOrder]

It's a deal breaker if I have to solder wires to these buttons. I'll give it a pass. Some things to improve on these buttons are to add .110 Quick Connect male conductors, and have LEDs that only light up when pressed. My ideal arcade buttons would have these features, and can be quite useful for the music games, as those used LED buttons for the most part.

[@ryancory5958]

why not just have a gamepad with a touchscreen for movement and touchscreen for buttons

[@HushMySweet1]

I got to demo a fully optical controller a while back. It was cool but the button feedback was something that I missed.

[@Lenduya]

Wish they did screw-in buttons :(

[@HushMySweet1]

Same.

[@3rdworldgwaming467]

It was just a matter of time till someone came up with something faster/better....& I hope it remains this way for all factors of innovation going forward lol...cause then we all win that way

[@HushMySweet1]

Totally agree. These may not be for everyone, but it's awesome that there's a solid option out there for those who dig this style. Innovate or become a dinosaur. Thanks for watching and weighing in, dude!

[@grendelicious]

I already set off my ks buttons by accident lol. Totally not for me

[@HushMySweet1]

lol, that's fair! Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@Bryan-po5wc]

looks cool am pc gamer and do enjoy my clicky mouse XD

[@HushMySweet1]

Right on! We may have found your ideal button then. If you pick them up, you'll have to let us know your thoughts.

[@ENNEN420]

lower the actuation force by like two to two and a half times and i've got my geriatric arthritic ass a new hitbox that uses real buttons and isnt just a glorified keyboard. I will EXCLUSIVELY use and shill this button if they do that.

[@HushMySweet1]

So something featherlight? That's an interesting premise. Extremely low gf and near zero travel could be pretty wild. (just don't breathe too hard, lol).

[@zhenyaloginov]

It's great that we have more options now. But for me, science has come too far. I prefer something around 2-2.5 total travel and it shouldn't actuate that fast. But the controller and button diversity is great, I believe it's also important for popularisation of fighting games

[@HushMySweet1]

Yeah, I agree that more options are always welcome. Really leans into that "something out there for everyone" mentality. Thanks for weighing in!

[@otttimon5654]

These look disgusting. I need travel in my buttons

[@HushMySweet1]

I totally get that sentiment and agree that these won't be for everyone.