Flat-12 5.0-litre Ferrari 512 BB LM at Spa-Francorchamps - Does it get any better?

[@GoodwoodRR]

How high up your list is that engine sound?

[@cyoann8050]

333SP first

[@printerror]

Up there with the 787B and the GTP Jags. Absolutely glorious.

[@Jeff.78]

All V-12 Ferraris and then the amazing 1954 Maserati A6G CS/53 Berlinetta, chassis number 2057, the two-tone blue😍 Edit: It seems chassis number 2070 has the body from 2057, as it was converted into a spider.

[@xYoshiLP.]

Pretty high Up but still below the Huayra R, Apollo I.E. (and EVO) and the Valkyrie at least on my V-12's only list

[@hkguitar1984]

Pretty high up there.

[@whoeveriam0iam14222]

That engine sounds sooo raw

[@Adam-ub9nu]

Those wheels! That exhaust piping in the back! That SOUND! I'm in love...

[@brisance]

Dude is living his best life! Thanks for sharing this video of a marvellous machine!

[@grandicellichannel]

The Flat 12 of Forghieri designed in first place in 1970 for the 312B, and of which 512's one takes foundations low-revved, is the most musically screaming engine ever made aside Matra's V12 hands down! ❤

[@Michael-YTCSAD]

But 'flat' is a bit of a misnomer. It's actually a 180 degree V12 (not a horizontally opposed) configuration similar to the engine in the Testarossa.

[@markwroblewski6500]

@@Michael-YTCSAD V12 180 degrees is automatically horizontally opposed = flat.Can you explain your point of view.

[@Michael-YTCSAD]

@@markwroblewski6500 Well you do sound a bit uneducated/uninformed, so I'll be happy to bring you up to speed. In a horizontally opposed engine, each opposing cylinder connecting rod has its own crank journal. A V engine's opposing cylinder connecting rods share a journal. ALL horizontally opposed engines are intrinsically balanced. The only V engine that is intrinsically balanced, is the V12.

[@markwroblewski6500]

@@Michael-YTCSAD Wikipedia says Ferrari 4,993.53 cc 48-valve V12 engine is 60°.So someone,sometime started disinformation and technically the engine it's not fully flat.

[@rinhato8453]

​@@markwroblewski6500Which engine is that? The Ferrari flat12 is a 180° V, so, flat.

[@Pegaso3046_ENASA]

I just fall in love with this car.

[@Jaq365]

That flat-12 sounds glorious!

I had the pleasure of seeing this car racing and in the paddock at Estoril Classicos 15 days ago

[@rainbowwarrior2635]

That's one of the rawest sounding motors I have ever heard. I've driven many different styles of cars but I have not driven a V12, or a flat 12 or a twin turbo V8

[@chrisb.banick6720]

Sad that manufacturers stopped using flat engine the torque efficiency is amazing and you can tell this car has tons of torque to get out of those corners. That's why porsche and subaru do so well with the flat engine

[@bobeyes3284]

What a magnificent machine.

[@mobucks555]

Not a bad life being a historic Ferrari.

[@UlfDrulf]

My man lets that piece of history absolutly rip 👌👌👌 Big respect.

[@Tminus89]

I believe I saw one of these cars at circuit Assen, NL once. If I remember correctly, it couldn't go full throttle due to noise constraints around the track. Unforgettable feeling from the grandstand!!

[@itsmrlonewolf]

That should be a crime not to let it go full throttle lol.

[@litamtondy]

This is the first sound people think about when asked about racecar sound.

[@snail415]

Absolute proof that sound and feel always trumps speed and aesthetics. I’d drive a Prius if it sounded like that.

[@kristofevo]

Mate, you are so right........cant get onboard with driving a prius, though😂

[@sepg5084]

​​​@@kristofevoproof of something that is subjective, basically an opinion. Which means it is not true for everyone. So, not proof at all. Real racers prefer speed and performance. Posers, not so much.

[@kristofevo]

@@sepg5084 Maybe you should ask some “real racers”.....i think you’ll find a different answer. For example, look at the many videos available of current F1 drivers and how they wax lyrical about driving the 90s or 2000 spec cars. They talk about the sound and feel of these cars being so much better than the modern ones. And, as a spectator, i would much rather watch a race with something that sounded like this ferrari, going sideways round corners, with flames spitting out of the exhaust......all of these traits are not making the car go faster, quite the opposite, but as a spectacle they are far superior to their modern equivalent.....in my opinion as a poser, of course.

[@Kooldood.]

Especially the newer ones 👀

[@misterpacha1]

​@@kristofevodepends u ask a professional born after the year 2000? Or older? 😂. I would like to hear a youngin converted and craving old machinery and to see if he agrees with us. That would be cool

[@mhoseinofi]

The noise! Wow

[@kaozer666]

its nice to see that car on a race track rather than in a museum!

[@danielb.9897]

Best sounding engine ever. Wish I knew this motor existed sooner. Can't live without that sound

[@josephpsmithe]

Even if your car was super slow and sounded like that you would be such a fun drive

[@Cp-rp5tr]

Just listen to the music! That engine rocks!

[@tweakiepop]

First thing I thought was how much acceleration breadth he was getting from each gear, the pull evident in top, then y’man said about the torque, wonderful stuff. Wish id have thought to work with cars when I was younger and dafter

[@MarcSob22]

Pure perfection!!

[@groovyhippie1165]

I need that engine sound as my ringtone. :)

[@obc993]

it looks and sounds like a dangerous rocket

[@benkrapf]

Holy s***, that sound, those downshifts.

[@wareidav]

Absolutely wonderful.. So jealous that he gets to live out a dream of many a person. That engine !! WOW!!!

[@ScottOrd]

1:01 - Loud noises. (This is one most incredible things I've ever heard)

[@simeonorive145]

I often wonder how much more successful the 512 BB would have been in competition with the gearbox behind the engine.

[@mikealton9642]

Nice video and great driving!!!

[@shawnglover2829]

Nice! old school manual shift with a beautiful sounding torquey engine

[@Sashquatsch]

At about 1;25 notice how careful the driver was avoiding being too close to the front car, very nice driving.

[@kresimirmilisa5560]

this was very amazing racing car back then in past.

[@stephencurry8552]

Fun to look at. Horrible race car which never won anything. Fact is, furr-are-E has always been rather inconsistent when it comes to building proper race winning cars. The fact that old enzo made the F-40 at the same time Porsche released the 959 is a great example of how dreadful the marque has always honestly been. This BB has an engine which sits too high. Compromised.

[@johnrobie9694]

FWIW, I disagree with almost all of what ​@stephencurry8552 said. I own a BBi.

[@stephencurry8552]

@@johnrobie9694 LOL. Yes, never winning a race is a wonderful testament to this BB. LOL. You own one. LOL.

[@emanuelefasanofasano3814]

Never fully developed but wins a lot of historical races even passes newer machinery whereas Porsche was fully turbo charging their 935 developing in some cases 750hp this was basically stock with just minor mods

[@stephencurry8552]

@@emanuelefasanofasano3814 LOL! Never won a race. Period. Full stop. Historical is for grins you ignorant illiterate.

[@GONER013]

love that stop watch !

[@johncunningham4820]

Apparently the BB-512 engine WASN'T Flat . 170 degree V . To make it fit in the Chassis well . Ferrari are " No Compromise " builders . The slight V is why is sounds so Raw and Brutal . Listen to a Testarossa or a Porche 917 and you can hear what I'm talking about . Don't get me wrong here . BB-512 is one of the best sounding Supercars ever built . Just explaining the faint Ragged Edge .

[@Fastvoice]

Wrong. The 512 BB Le Mans engine has 180 degrees. Even the Ferrari website claims that it is flat - although it's technically a V engine and not a boxer.

[@johncunningham4820]

@@Fastvoice . No . You're wrong . You are thinking of the 512 S . THAT was a 60deg V-12 of 5 litre capacity used in the Le-Mans Car . The BB 512 , used in the Road Cars , was a nominally " Flat " 12 of 5 litre capacity . They went to the Flat layout because the Existing V-12 , that you mentioned , was going to be too Tall in the planned Road Car . Due to " Packaging " issues , like fitting the Exhaust , it was built as a 170deg V , but still classified as a Flat 12 because it DID have a Boxer Layout internally . The BB stands for : Berlinetta Boxer . We are talking about FERRARI here . They have Often times designed the Car first and THEN built the Engine that will fit it .

[@Fastvoice]

@@johncunningham4820 I didn't think of anything - I just quoted the official Ferrari website about the 512 BB LM (not the S) where it says "V12 flat". Too bad I can't post a link here. You can find multiple sources that say the same - including a "Road & Track" article from december 2022 about the exact same car in the video when it was still for sale. I didn't find any source for your 170 degrees claim.

[@928pcar]

This is my favorite Ferrari race car

[@fullsenderman8291]

I can listen to that engine all day what sexy car

[@TundeEszlari]

Cool content, keep it up.

[@Mark-mu4pj]

Such a nice car

[@pulseweld]

its beautiful

[@albinobeach]

I think the flat 12 would have been better if the crank drive encasipator had been placed to the left hand side of the manifold exhaust modules in the fan assembly. It would have enabled the torgue demand leaver to rise ever so slightly during braking. Otherwise, its good. I like it.

[@gene6690]

Why do they hardly ever show us external footage. with the greatest sounds.Internal footage can never showcase the screaming engines

[@The_Opinion_of_Matt]

It is easier to pull the footage from one camera in the car than it is is to search the 8+ hour recordings of 12+ cameras at different locations around the track. There usually aren't track cameras setup around the track on track days anyway.

[@GoodwoodRR]

@@The_Opinion_of_Matt The event didn't have a stream, so we rely on what our team can capture from track side. Not always perfect.

[@imkeerock]

FANTASTIC!!!

[@Sashquatsch]

1000 Thumbs up!

[@Dethmeister]

Is his heel-toe rev matching a bit off? Seems like he blips but the revs drop back down before he shifts so it's the same as no blip. Sounds amazing though.

[@steffenkawa8374]

yeah it's off. He is to slow. He isn't a racing driver. Also it looks like his shift throw is pretty long. So maybe not that easy to shift fast.

[@The_Opinion_of_Matt]

Yeah, he is still learning and he knows it. He is having fun doing something challenging. He also mentioned that the transmission shifter is difficult and it has to be taken slow. It took me a long time to realize I was being too slow on my downshifts when heel-toeing. He will get there.

[@kikiautorcman787B]

Look at a 512's (big...) gearboxe and you will know you have to make "slow" hells&toes... 😏‼️These gearboxes weren't fast, even with a professional driver... The 917 was the same... It isn't a Hewland gearboxe for example... And you have a high torqued engine (V12/ 5L...). Today, lots of "racing drivers" don't make REAL hells&toes but they think they do... It isn't just a fast "push-accelerator" on downshifts... 😉‼️💯🛢️🔥🏁🏎️🤓

[@Mi1lerTime]

some sensible replies to this comment. it's nice to know there are mature viewers here not picking apart his skills. if you have the opportunity to ever drive historic race cars, they are all different machines and that there is some 'getting used to things', and this is certainly one of them. He's got the right idea, and with more seat time will nail the rhythm.

[@johnrobie9694]

That transmission is a little tricky. For one of the first times on track with the car, he's doing really well. You need to develop a relationship with that car before really getting into a groove with it.

[@alekot7105]

One of my fav cars in gt7

[@MR.Speedy]

OMG this is so beautiful

[@giuseppe4909]

SMILE. FACE. IMMEDIATE. 🇮🇹🏁🇮🇹🏁🇮🇹

[@locati82]

love old school cars!!!!!!!!!

[@wc1472_]

absolute unit

[@toxaq]

Like driving a mechanical orchestra.

[@DeanThompson-o6c]

Intense Fazzazz! 4:02

[@adrienjouanest2013]

512 BB 😍😍😍

[@mike_oe]

Remind me, pls: What is the difference between a flat 12 and a boxer 12? Firing order/timing?

[@whoeveriam0iam14222]

Boxer means that the pistons are "punching" towards eachother

[@Dethmeister]

@@whoeveriam0iam14222 That's true, but doesn't the BB stand for Berlinetta Boxer? So is it a flat 12 boxer?

[@johnrobie9694]

@Dethmeister "BB" originally stood for Brigitte Bardot (named by the engineers / designers). Marketing (and Enzo) felt it was inappropriate to name a car after a woman, so they came up with "Berlinetta Boxer" instead. It's a flat 12 cylinder, but it's not a true "boxer" crank shaft. I think they played it fast and loose with the "boxer" term in order to keep the BB reference.

[@romanoschwabel3716]

it is a V12 with 180°

[@Michael-YTCSAD]

@@romanoschwabel3716 I'm glad someone else understands that this isn't a horizontally opposed 12! Old skool Beetle, Microbus, Subaru and Porsche engines are horizontally opposed configurations. Most recip-engined, prop airplanes have h.o. configurations as well.

[@tomwebb7091]

Its not a car.... its a musical instrument!! You can keep your V8 Turbo!!

[@andreaberetta6918]

Mamma mia!!🤯

[@hageshiiame111]

What's the intro song?

[@modelcitizen72]

Perfect

[@mochabear88]

so cool

[@dave130r4]

At what event was this recorded?

[@GoodwoodRR]

The Spa Classic.

[@BradleyBellwether-oy2qi]

I'd like to see this thing race the LS powered Detroit Speed Iroc! 😂

[@andisamerluki5672]

Old school traditional gearbox 😢

[@motorfab7014]

Cattiva ragazza ❤

[@m.b.82]

Didn't get one actual complete shot of the car in this vid

[@paolosignorini8667]

Sinfonia Italiana🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪 il tenore è do Maranello

[@Mario_C.]

Wow

[@farnum3297]

yes, it does.. 917.

[@michaelcasiano6138]

That transmission/clutch is slow

[@edmachado22]

Ferruccio Lamborghini agrees with you 😂

[@numbskulldiecastracing]

hot

[@spacecowboy3063]

thats a car and a half

[@romanoschwabel3716]

why you not even shift into 5th gear?

[@mikehipperson]

It was geared to race at Le Man's pre Mulsanne chicanes and Spa doesn't have a straight 5k long!

[@romanoschwabel3716]

@@mikehipperson: ok I understand. thank you for explaining I only asked because I have a "normal" BB, but with 450 HP and with this car in spa I shift into 5th

[@jakeroyle1981]

All the guys that can afford these rigs.. cannot drive them!

[@AndreLuiz-gk1mf]

🐢🦥

[@lucamattiaferromilone]

,1975

[@stephencurry8552]

Fun to look at. Horrible race car which never won anything. Fact is, furr-are-E has always been rather inconsistent when it comes to building proper race winning cars. The fact that old enzo made the F-40 at the same time Porsche released the 959 is a great example of how dreadful the marque has always honestly been. This BB has an engine which sits too high. Compromised.

[@bobibob5442]

This is the Worse Gear Change i ever See ... and this Guy is payed for that!!!!!!!!!.. im Serious???????? Come one, this Sucks so badly

[@AvantiMoltoVeloce]

improve your heel and toe dude sorry!

[@kpcart]

kinda sounds like a v8 supercar from inside

[@adamdavis7271]

This is not a flat twelve, it's a 180 twelve, big difference between that and a true boxer, google it for more technical info. Beast of a car & engine though🎉