Flat Earther Conducts the Worst Experiment of All Time

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This flat Earther thinks that a sundial proves a flat Earth. Well, not only does he hash up making a sundial, but he can't even get his argument straight when trying to use it to prove the Earth is flat. This one is an instant classic.
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[@barryf7253]

He just demonstrated that on a flat earth model, the sun never sets.

[@l.a.rodriguez9581]

Yeah in his model, you can pick any point and just stand there and the sun will revolve around you forever.

[@LaughingOwl10]

Most flat earthers think the sun doesn’t set, but just moves so far away that you can’t see it anymore. Which is course makes no sense.

[@fastone371]

@@LaughingOwl10 Its funny how the sun really doesn't dim much (or get smaller) as it moves too far to be seen.

[@hobojoe9717]

And apparently only has 12 hour days lol

[@barryf7253]

@@hobojoe9717 2 "sun circles" = 24 hours😁

[@marvinko6610]

He sets up an experiment, never checks the results and then concludes earth is flat. So the usual thing

[@alexanderzack3720]

you forgot: he set up an experiment WRONG

[@Nobody-df4is]

Well, you cannot risk your observations proving you wrong now, can we? Haha.

[@ChrisOBrien666]

And don’t forget about daylight savings time as well 😀

[@ianstopher9111]

I was waiting for when he would mark off the location and length of the shadow with some chalk throughout the day to show the arc of the shadow. But that never happened!

[@jawstrock2215]

demonstrate "It works like this!" proceeds to show something that never happen in real life... and somehow miss that it shows no night at all....

[@burnsy96]

As a person living in the southern hemisphere, i can confirm we do not actually exist.

[@skz5k2]

As a person livin on the Capricorn Tropic, I can confirm that here the sundials don't exist, either

[@Olvrin]

I would never believe that me skipping my meds would create a whole civilizations in the southern hemisphere... damn thats crazy....

[@mygirlfriendbeatsme]

as a creature living in the Mariana Trench I can confirm the sun is fake news.

[@z6847]

Wake up people the southern hemisphere is a CIA psyop

[@sniper7303]

im also not real

[@j4s0n39]

Well, he convinced me. ...that he's never seen a sundial in detail.

[@cavecookie1]

He clearly didn't even bother to Google a picture of what they look like before he laid that ridiculous "sun dial" out on the ground. If I were a better person, I'd be embarrassed for him...but, it's just too hysterically funny to care what an idiot he is!

[@rattusprat]

He also convinced me.... .... that after building his own sundial on his driveway, he didn't wait even an hour to check how well it works at keeping track of the time before turning his camera on to start telling us of his brilliance.

[@kernicterus1233]

@@rattusprat or ... he's just bare-face lying. #gottalietoflerf

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

He convinced me too ! He wears a cross, AND has JESUS on his shirt !!!

[@randyadsit2093]

He’s also never paid attention to how the sun moves in the sky.

[@mindstormmaster]

“I built this sundial that would work perfectly to tell time on a flat earth, and it doesn’t work, so they must be lying to us about how time works”

[@ChrisHeli1978]

Perfect 😂😂😂 Now you're thinking like them!

[@ethribin4188]

Thats why conspiracy theoriests are pointless to argue about. Theres always a conveniant unfalsifiable reason that they are right. "You have been brainwashed!" "Your sources are faked." "You are a the they!" Etc.

[@backonlazer791]

Also note that for his "sundial" to work on a flat earth that would mean their sun must be going around twice a day 😂

[@zonaloca]

He negates even the day and night cycles. Assumes that the sun would be around 24 hours just because he wants his damn clock to work. Edit. Oh right, his clock is divided by 12..

[@conorstewart2214]

@@backonlazer791 also for his sundial to work even if the sun magically disappeared at night, then during the day the sun would need to make a full rotation around the sundial which is impossible except at the north or south poles. This would also only work for sundials within the flat Earth suns circular rotation, on their models you often see the sun moving on a circular path that has a radius roughly half of the radius of their flat Earth, so if you were on the outer sections of the flat Earth then the sun wouldn’t appear to move the same way, directly under the suns path would show the sun going directly over the sundial, what he claims should happen if the Earth is a sphere. Also if you were within the circular path of the sun you would see the shadow length change throughout the day depending on your location and the effect would be greater the further you are from the centre.

[@Volvoman90]

I fail to accept a fully grown adult doesn’t realise the sun is never directly overhead unless you’re within the tropics on a day or two per year.

[@user-ki2tu2zg8d]

Never travelled further than the local mart, has no idea tropics exist. I remember looking down at noon in Singapore in late February and realising I didn't have a shadow. On the same trip NZ news showed the unveiling of a new sundial made of flowers, and it took me a few moments to realise it looked wrong because it goes the other way around in the southern hemisphere!

[@Mu77ley]

I mean, he's an American wearing a Jesus t-shirt. He clearly has a very slender grasp on reality to start with...

[@zqzj]

Fully grown with an IQ around 80 lol

[@prof-quack]

Just because people believe in God doesn’t automatically make them mentally weaker, just as nationality does not predetermine intelligence. However, there are folks that have no critical thinking abilities and therefore believe whatever they are told. I suspect this fellow might be among the population of the gullible that’s fallen for the “flat-earth” nonsense.

[@simonspacek3670]

I have a problem accepting that an adult didn't notice that sun never ever gets to the other side of things. I live in Europe and there was never direct sunlight on the northern outside wall of our house. But this guy didn't ever notice that, so he set a sundial with 12 perfectly (more or less) spaced points, like a regular wall clock.

[@threetythreepercent]

He’s surrounding himself with things that are more intelligent than he is. Those rocks have never felt smarter.

[@peterjackson2801]

The rocks came out of his head.

[@-oiiio-3993]

@@peterjackson2801 I was thinking a box, but he _is_ dumber than a box of rocks.

[@Azven62]

The stick in the middle of a sundial is called the gnomon and has the same word root as "knowledge". The stick literally has more knowledge than he does.

[@GraceMcClain]

My neighbour was teaching their kid about this last week. He's 7 years old, and managed to grasp the basics perfectly. Apparently my 7 year old neighbour is smarter than literally every flat earther.

[@c.e.g7448]

That is because your 7 year old neigbour has about 86 billion more braincells than this idiot. 😊

[@dansebastiansuhanea5189]

a broomstick has a bigger IQ and capacity to understand than any flat earther.

[@MelanaC]

That sounds about right! Children have beautiful imaginations and can grasp abstract concepts like the size of the world and the galaxy therefore understanding these mathematical constants 😊

[@skyinou]

Not that I want to belittle your young neighboor's grasp of maths and physics, but.... that's not a high bar. 😅

[@bunnybreaker]

I remember being about 5 years old and learning the earth was round by asking why we couldn't see our home (a tower block) from the park. Then a couple years later seeing boats go over the horizon bottom first. It's almost like you don't even need NASA to find this stuff out.

[@alexgreene7110]

He calls this "Flat Earth Friday." I'm watching this on a Wednesday, therefore time doesn't exist.

[@WolfgangMahringer]

No, that proves that "time is messed up" :-)

[@Hairysteed]

In flattardia the sun goes around in just 12 hours and it's always daytime. This guy has never seen a sun dial in his life!

[@888PsyMike888]

Dude, it's a sundial. Check out his other videos on how to make a moondial.

[@PippetWhippet]

Correct. Nighttime doesn’t exist. There is an intermission between dinner and breakfast, but what happens in the intermission stays in the intermission.

[@MichaelSidneyTimpson]

exactly! actually he needs to do this experiment at the south pole.

[@Nobody-df4is]

@@MichaelSidneyTimpson I don't think they have a south pole. Only a north pole at the center of their map.

[@Stealth86651]

Apparently has never been outside during the night either.

[@jamescarthew4553]

When talking about people like this my friends came up with the statement: "He has two brains. One has gone walkabout and the other has gone looking for it". Yes, I'm from that non-existent country known as Australia.

[@rakete85]

Are we just ignoring the fact, that his sundial only has 12 hours, when even flat earthers would agree, that it's 24 hours from noon to noon?

[@patrickfox-roberts7528]

v good 👍👍

[@ilmt]

Ha, lol didn't noticed either. We were so dumbfounded by the sheer stupidity of the setup. This is proof that just by watching flat earthers we're loosing IQ

[@easyhelp]

Ha ha.. He obviously made his research by looking at wall clock...

[@o0Raho0o]

but but ehm they messed with our timeline oO ^^

[@khaitomretro]

Never underestimate the inability of a flat earther's to understand things.

[@j.hueston4370]

I bought one of those clocks and it doesn't work. It is always 15 o'clock. Thanks Bob.

[@whatifschrodingersboxwasacofin]

Mine’s stuck at 25:30. ☹️

[@um66440]

If only they could understand how embarrassing they are. They would delete the internet and never leave the house again.

[@ryckybo66]

the fact that he didn't show the result of his "experiment" outside, tell me it didn't succeed

[@paulgreen9059]

But he still posts the video. S-tier smugness and intellectual dishonesty. SMH

[@5_Is]

Mom came home from work and he had to clean up the clutter in the driveway and retreat back down to the basement for his "science" projects.

[@taruss2000]

I think he didn't even clear the "broken clock" bar. His sundial is only correct ONCE a day.

[@ChrisPavey85]

Flattys tend to forget about the southern hemisphere because nothing works in the southern hemisphere in their model. Which is very inconvenient. Some of them even make it part of the grand conspiracy and claim that Australia doesn't even exist.

[@thedeadgypsy]

But tend to forget about all the other Southern Hemisphere countries and continents :)

[@ParasocialCatgirl]

*edit* nvm Well, Dan was heavily implying that this flat earther is Australian, so he probably isn't actively in denial about Australia existing - but probably doesn't understand anything about hemispheres.

[@becp488]

​@@ParasocialCatgirl I don't think Dan was implying he was in Australia. The little I can see of his background outside doesn't look like Australia at all, however I can't see much.

[@naomiandtommccabe]

With that accent he’s a septic.

[@chrisoakey9841]

Particularly sizes.

[@gariannobinger9933]

If he would put in more than a couple minutes of effort he'd prove himself wrong. If he took a single day's effort, and marked where the shadow fell every hour from sun up to sun down, he'd see the shadows would not travel a full circle around that pole. It would measure an out an arc.

[@Sadreath]

That is where his first point comes in handy. If you just claim that time is manipulated it does not matter that his sun dial is wrong because in his reality the time on his phone is wrong (for some reason he trusts his compass on the phone though)

[@ShuberFuber]

You... don't even need to do that. We can video call now. You can literally just call up 3 other people to do a single measurement and get conclusive proof that Earth is round.

[@nick.100]

Yeah but his model never had a sun down point so in his mind the day would never end lol

[@padgaprao2617]

I’m a teacher and it never ceases to amaze me that people showing vast amounts of confidence are often the most clueless

[@NeutralDrow]

The actual, non-memetic definition of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

[@seretkeena]

I know, right? It's so astounding how they confidently go around with these 'simple' experiments that ANYONE could do and act like they're having some kind of big brain moment that nobody's ever thought of before... and then completely ignore the fact that their 'experiment' doesn't show them what they think they should be seeing.

[@inttruders]

"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts and the stupid ones are full of confidence." -Charles Bukowski

[@ToEuropa]

Unfortunately, ignorance (especially the willful variety) and arrogance are often found together. Generally speaking, the less someone knows, the more they're certain they're right.

[@Stealth86651]

I mean it makes sense. Humble people are open to accepting they're wrong or made a mistake. Confident people not so much.

[@JW-mb6tq]

He was literally just playing with rocks, sticks, and chalk in his driveway. Let’s hope he does not eat the chalk.

[@aaronburtram3175]

They make chalk nontoxic now because, you know..... children.

[@benjamindover5676]

Best comment!

[@kingmobmor7656]

And he didn't say 4 o'clock rock, 5 o'clock rock.

[@-oiiio-3993]

Or the rocks.

[@emdxemdx]

Why? I’m sure chalk would provide him some of the nutrients he obviously lacks!

[@usmc1379]

🎶1 o'clock, 2 o'clock, 3 o'clock rocks! 5 o'clock, 6 o'clock, 7 o'clock rocks! 🎶

[@betaorionis2164]

So, he showed that a Sun circling above would never set. Not exactly what we see in real life.

[@NeutralDrow]

Except at the north pole, with its midnight sun. Which, as I understand, a whole lotta flerfs are desperately _avoiding_ witnessing at the south pole, at the moment!

[@LukasJampen]

Or that it rotates every 24 hours and not every 12.

[@kirleyq1394]

Not to mention that sundial would be like 15 million miles high according to that scale.

[@stevereimer5254]

His sun track is obviously wrong to any of us in the temperate latitudes. Are you sure he's not just parodying Flat Earthers?

[@NeutralDrow]

@@stevereimer5254 Never assume someone is parodying flat earthers unless they make it obvious. There's genuinely no point.

[@lidbass]

He didn’t build a sundial. He built an image of a clock with a stand in the middle. He may have seen many sundials in his time, but he’s never actually looked at one…

[@whiterabbit75]

That man has never seen a real sundial in person, only heard the idea described in a book. The numbers on a sundial describe an arc, not a circle around the gnomon, and they're not evenly spaced.

[@kieronparr3403]

I think you've probably seen one without noticing. The things are bloody everywhere in the UK

[@grahvis]

Doesn't knowhow a sundial works, constructs something nothing like one, and proclaims his result is valid. A typical flat earth experimenter.

[@Syntex366]

He also didn’t use the “sundial” he made for the purpose of the demonstration, he went inside and waved a flashlight around a nail because he knew damn well the way he described doesn’t make sense. Seems like he doesn’t actually believe this and he’s completely bullshitting it for view farming or grifting flat earth victims.

[@mimivrc4148]

he isnt stupid, he is a liar. intentionally preying on vulnerable people who would belive in any conspiracy because someone sounds confident, profitting off them

[@kromeboy]

Love how he think that the sun is revolving around him His model Is not heliocentric nor geocentric, but egocentric

[@fomori2]

I would say it is mostly ignocentric.

[@vikj1255]

🤣😅

[@sameppink9401]

These people are such narcissists. Like what’s more likely, that this guy, who has no particular expertise, built a sundial wrong or that every physicist, astronomer, and everyone else in human history was wrong about sundials?

[@SeanCrosser]

They're cooked up on conspiratorial thinking. They don't think that scientist are stupid, they think that scientists are _lying_

[@DarmaniLink]

Questioning everything in the face of adversity, even when the consensus is against you is how new frontiers of research is to be found. That isn't a trait to be ashamed of, or to shame someone for having. Experts aren't always right, nor does being an expert mean they're infallible. These last few years have shown that repeatedly. People once believed leeches were cures for headaches. That being said, not reevaluating your premises when they fail to hold up to scrutiny, or believing all counter-evidence is a conspiracy without any direct motivation, is where the shame should start kicking in.

[@dikephobia]

occam’s razor suggests not that the simpler option is true but rather that its validity should be pursued first. but yes, he and many other flat earthers are very very stupid and narcissistic.

[@MrTomprokopec]

Soo...how about night? He sorta forgot to address how night works if the sun flies around us illuminating the clock all the time 😅

[@resnatachyon]

Because the Moon's cold light counteracts the Sun's hot light. Making it night and cooler...yeeaahh.

[@patrick-west]

Yeah... Because as all flat earthers will happily tell you the moon is always 180° opposite the sun, and never up during the day. And the sun transitions around the entire visible sky exactly once, before disappearing and then the moon does... I can understand why people are finding holes in this obviously perfectly accurate demonstration... That he definitely observed for multiple hours, over multiple days at several different times of the year... Cause flat earthers "do their own research".

[@galmud1508]

It always amazes me how flerfs keep claiming the Sun is circling above a flat Earth, when sunsets and nights completely destroys that silly idea.

[@peterdurnien9084]

There is a switch for night that THEY control.

[@NivisTigris]

How should it be night on a flat earth?

[@Soundbrigade]

TikToker ✅ Portrait mode ✅ Misunderstanding science ✅

[@ParasocialCatgirl]

Then again, portrait mode is pretty much a given whenever TikTok is involved (seeing as landscape mode isn't a thing over there)

[@Soundbrigade]

@@ParasocialCatgirl I am aware of that so portrait mode and TikTok goes hand in hand, but still ... Portrait F***ING MODE, ARRRRRRRRRGHH!!!!

[@Hairysteed]

@@Soundbrigade Wanna know what's even worse? Portrait mode... ...on a letterbox landscape video... ...being watched on a portrait device!

[@mattelder1971]

@@Hairysteed Uhhhh, just turn your device then. No one is forcing you to watch a landscape video in portrait mode.

[@tomjohnson5032]

@@mattelder1971 yeah, just let me pick up my monitor and do that. lol

[@finkelmana]

Moral of the story: Dont take scientific advice from a man wearing a t-shirt that says "Jesus did not tap out," even when "tapping out" is literally what Jesus was known for.

[@DocBree13]

😮😂😂😂

[@Getmadinc.]

Funny how he tapped out when he rose again? Your as bad as Fiat earthers with your comparison 🤡

[@finkelmana]

@@Getmadinc. *You're

[@ZOOFI57]

@@Getmadinc. also, you're*

[@carstekoch]

​@@Getmadinc. Right. Acc to the sex, enslavement and war manual he rose and tapped out. Literally flew off the face of the earth.

[@dreadnoughtus2598]

I've never seen someone find the middle of a circle 'after' they've already made the circle. This one hurt my brain a little.

[@ptravers]

His 12 hour sundial goes around twice a day, right?

[@verystripeyzebra]

Yes. The cooling effects of moonlight mean that the shadow will be slightly warmer. So you feel for the warm patch to know the time at night.

[@MadHax-wt5tl]

I just made a similar comment. Then looked through the rest of the comments, and it appears we're all wondering that. In the space of 10 minutes we all ask that. This flerfie probably spent days on this "experiment", and it still hasn't crossed his tiny raisin mind! LOL's!

[@dustybrown4599]

@@verystripeyzebra I can't tell if you're being serious. What does that even have to do with the sundial going around 2x per day?

[@neiltessier3520]

​@@verystripeyzebrano you're wrong man you got to look for the wet spot😂

[@verystripeyzebra]

@@dustybrown4599 it goes round once with the sun, and once with the moon. It's flat earth science.

[@CraigInNC]

I wonder if he watched his experiment for 6 hours to see what happens.

[@jeffknight904]

With that flashlight 'demonstration', he's just proved that the 'Flat Earth model' of the sun revolving as it hovers above the disk would mean night-time couldn't possibly exist anywhere. Is Flat Earth the only posit that self-debunks as spectacularly as it self-parodies?

[@sidford8419]

I was thinking the same thing

[@KnubbelKekz]

Not only would there be no night time, the sun would be fixed on a specific height and never rise high either.

[@jeffknight904]

@@KnubbelKekz That's very true - although the Flerfs insist it appears to set due to 'perspective'. They simply don't have a clue, do they?

[@johncraig2623]

It's worse than not having a clue, they willfully distort and ignore the obvious. There is no actual reason to believe the earth is flat based on observations of the most trivial kind. They all, it seems to me, have some reason to believe in the flat earth that is outside of observation. Such as belief in the literal (I use that term narrowly) reading of Genesis; or a fear of science in general.

[@jrs3739]

@@jeffknight904 Ooooh, I'm stealing Flerfs! Fits in so nicely with the other -erfs 😊

[@Applemangh]

If he had just bothered to check his "sundial" after a couple of hours, he could have seen just how wildly inaccurate it is.

[@brucethen]

TBH I think that was the mainstay of his argument, "I built this sundial and it doesn't work, therefore 'THEY' are lying to us about time lol

[@bztube888]

It will be very "inaccurate" at night time. "The Sun goes around" - WTF. Has he not seen the sun, ever?

[@MrGlugz]

​@@bztube888 Well obviously this is the first time ever he has left his basement, so he hasn't noticed yet how the sun actually moves.

[@mastererik323]

With a "Jesus Never Tapped Out" shirt on... wow... why am I not surprised?

[@Tatterdemalion-77]

How would one “tap out” if one’s hands are nailed down anyway? 😂

[@mastererik323]

@@Tatterdemalion-77 lol idk, flat earther syndrome makes people think crazy things i guess

[@Achie79]

Every broken clock is right at least twice a day - his only once.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

He is wrong 1,438 times each day.

[@kevinmccarthy2793]

And it will be right ONLY on the day he constructed it and only once then.

[@beejay7665]

Until his mom ran it over when she got home

[@nmkloster]

Builds a sun dial to demonstrate that it works because Earth is flat and then never checks if it actually works. AND how was it not mentioned that he marked out 12 hours for the full rotation?? He initiated it at 10 am and it will almost instantly NOT work...

[@patrick-west]

Yeah... Yes!... This!!... The moment he marked out 12 hours I was incapable of not diving into the comments to say this. On its face a 360degree 12hour sundial is stupid, literally nowhere in the world does the sun do a 360 in 12 hours... Not even on pizza earth would that make sense. But, he obviously did this atleast twice right? Once to have the idea, once to record it... How didn't he see that it literally can't be accurate at more than two individual moments in the day the way he set it up. Observing it twice even an hour apart would probably be enough... But why not 12 hours, a day, or a week!!

[@mikebronicki8264]

"And if anyone built a sundial, or knows anything about a sundial, sundials work like this..." Um, no, no they don't. Nice strawman you built there though.

[@Milamberinx]

@@patrick-west presumably when he saw that his sundial didn't work he blamed "them" for "messing up the timeline".

[@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394]

Yeah, but he said "now it's a clock." It don't get clockier than that.

[@angrydoggy9170]

Are you telling me there’s more than 12 hours in a day?

[@icanhaskpop1239]

As soon as he said "In my opinion", he told me that he's not dealing with facts.

[@jhouck1969]

Five minutes in - does he really think the sun is going to wrap around his pole and cast shadows to the south between 3pm and 9pm? A sundial doesn't work like an actual clock!

[@Yehan-xt7cw]

This flerf actually debunked the flat earth. The way he moved his phone, shows the sun can never set on a flat earth. I actually did make a sundial (sort of) when I was 12. Taped a string vertically on my bedroom window. Taped a piece of paper underneith it. Then every hour I marked the strings shadow. Every few weeks I had to move the paper because the shadow was no longer lining up with the markings.

[@j.f.christ8421]

It did set, there was no light when he set his phone on the desk. Wait wait wait, I've got it. The Sun is a flat round disc always pointed toward us. When it gets to the horizon it flips over, and on the back is the Moon which then travels back across the sky and the cycle repeats. Ha Ha ha, checkmate globies! I'm gunna promote my theory and become rich and famous! (Shut up, the Moon doe not travel the same direction as the Sun, the dark causes you eyesight to flip images.) (You don't see the Sun & Moon at the same time, that's just the Moons reflection off the firmament. Back side of the Sun, remember?)

[@JulianMakes]

I love how he didn’t think to look at a real sundial that works… If he did, he’d know how a sundial looks and works! And then he’d realise his ‘sundial’ doesn’t look anything like a real working sundial. All he’s done is make a crap ‘sundial’ and be suprised when it doesn’t work! Great work Dan.

[@jailhousephilosopher3309]

So he is using GPS(global positioning satellites) to prove the earth is flat!?!? geez😏🤨

[@BusyMEOW]

😂 Great point!

[@user-gh8sg7oc9r]

It's a non-starter for many of these theorists. If you press the issue and force them to use tools and methods that _don't_ rely on the knowledge gained from a spherical earth viewpoint, they are basically reduced to using sticks and rocks to prove themselves right

[@GraveUypo]

he's using a magnetometer, not a gps.

[@rickrumble4715]

​@@GraveUypo magnometers in phones are ultimately calibrated via GPS. That's why, for example, iPhones are able to have an option to point to "true north", even though the poles shift all the time.

[@AbsurdlyGeeky]

​@@user-gh8sg7oc9rEratosthenes proved the Earth is round in the 3rd century BCE with a stick... they have no excuse for their staggering ignorance.

[@Uchooze]

I love how Flat Earthers always say "they" (usually meaning NASA or the govenrment), but who are "they" and WHY do they need the Earth to be a globe. It's one question that never seemingly gets answered.

[@brandoncontreras4909]

I know a flat-earther in real life and I asked him the same question. He stated that the reason why is because "they" don't want us to know about, and explore the outer lands and gain too much knowledge and open up our pineal gland. ...talk about a bizarre tangent that made me question whether he should be institutionalized.

[@zdeneknovak5276]

They need globular Earth for GPS to work, duh.

[@abderahmanoubaha7957]

Basically, they think that there's a whole wonderful world hidden from us to keep us weak and docile So hiding that the world is flat prevents us from knowing that We're better than we think we are ....or something, well that's the take i got from their ramblings anyway

[@patrickfox-roberts7528]

@@brandoncontreras4909 usually Soros and The Deep State ( If you are from the UK you will understand this -------- They're BEHIND you -------- )

[@sandwichqueen]

It's so everyone doesn't fall off the edge. Duh.

[@nick.100]

I learned sun dials are a lot more complicated than I thought

[@spidermaninky]

The part I enjoyed most with his phone light experiment was how when he moved the phone as the sun would move over the equator, it went from darkness with his phone on the desk on one side, then became light, then became darkness again. You know, like the day/night cycle. But when he moved his phone around to show how it must work on a flat earth, there was no night time. The entire circle was lit the entire time. This is the problem with flat earth experiments, they simultaneously disprove flat earth in one area while trying to prove it in another.

[@maksymisaiev1828]

that is called ignorance. That is the most obvious point, which nobody try to do proper experiment - just use lamp and piece of paper and see how day ight is not possible on flat earth. It is possible on doughnut (thorus) shape and if Earth would have some tricky structure (semithorus, where sun is inside it), but that is only to cover sun movement, when you pick up other points (magnetic field, moon, stars), spheroid is the only realistic option anyway.

[@philhogan5623]

Strange how he never showed how the shadow moved on his outdoor sundial. Epic fail!

[@sniper7303]

if the earth is so flat why does my life keep on going down hill?

[@nathanhall2206]

He thinks sun dials work like analog clocks. 🤦‍♂️

[@jan_vyhnak]

well they kind of do (not like he though ofc). still better than if he would expect work it like digital...

[@chancemathews7057]

lol I’m surprised he believes in a clock or a compass

[@seektruth5119]

He states what he thinks will happen, but he does not do the experiment to find out what happens.

[@briangartside1984]

His shirt should be the first sign of the ignorance level he is at.

[@richghost2897]

"they have manipulated our time line" what the hell does that mean and who are "they"?!🤣

[@PedroConejo1939]

In this context, I am 'they' and proud.

[@comsubpac]

The French, obviously.

[@Soundbrigade]

Not “they” - T.H.E.Y 👹

[@Hunter-NG]

And why?

[@user-yn9xn5qn2m]

​@@PedroConejo1939well I'm not "they", I'm actually "him"

[@The_Beer_Hunter]

The funniest part of that was him claiming that it only works on a flat earth model. The flat earth model that we're all still waiting for?

[@NeutralDrow]

I mean, he's not wrong, necessarily. It only works on a flat earth model. Therefore, since the thing he built _doesn't work at all_ ... 😆

[@The_Beer_Hunter]

@@NeutralDrow that’s a very good point 😂

[@j.f.christ8421]

@@NeutralDrow And it's awfully convenient the sun does a complete 360 loop around us no matter where on the flat Earth we are. Wait a minute, how does the sun manage to overhead then? Ah, must be that weird perspective stuff again.

[@MichaelSidneyTimpson]

did he not bother to look at pictures of sundials before he built this? "I made a device to show what I want to show, instead of what is reality"

[@netherstar623]

Gnomens can be vertical, they just need several sets of hour markers on the ground based on the time of year. The Washington Monument was originally supposed to be part of an enormous sundial. The reflection pool was 12 o'clock solar time.

[@ReValveiT_01]

Nope. Anyone who's dealt with a flerf for longer than ten nanoseconds knows that all flerfs are born with all knowledge...

[@Mart77]

Most of the "globe debunking" videos are based on same principle - they just throw out completely random claim and then prove how it doesnt work. Like that guy who thought that aircraft flying around earth will tip it's nose up and so he brought bubble level on the plane to debunk it xD

[@stiwardaraya6700]

They don't research because they don't want to do science and find the truth about things, they just want to be right about their own reality where they're special

[@adamb89]

I saw one where some guy tried to prove the earth was flat by disproving the curvature of the horizon, and "successfully" did so by inserting some irrelevant number into his equation to offset for reality. Just to drive the point home, he KNEW his math didn't work, and so just deliberately added a number to offset for the drop, to force the results to match his claim.

[@youtube-handle-are-a-joke]

He's a genius. That is the only sun dial that can tell when it's midnight.

[@casperthefriendlycookingapple]

An overconfident flat earther. Surely not.

[@ethenallen1388]

I'd like to see him try to make a time lapse of his "sundial" over a twenty-four hour period, then hear his excuse for not posting it online.

[@chainlink4241]

I cannot believe the sheer stupidity of someone using a COMPASS to "prove" the earth is somehow flat...

[@davep5788]

He built a sundial (badly) then apparently didn't watch it. Did the shadow go around in a circle? No? Shocking.

[@TheMcIke]

Wife probably came home from work and said, "get this shit out of the driveway!"

[@gazzie12000]

Exactly. The sun would also have go round his stick, (including moving through North) more than once in one day, ie where I live the sun rises at 4.44am and sets at 9.24pm today, so passes through all times on his clock from 4.44 to 9.24 twice. Did he observe that in his "experiment". Did he then post his results as proof? I think not.

[@damianwims]

This one has made me really cross.... he could just watch his own sundial and see that he's wrong. He had mixed up a sundial and a clock.... arrrgggghhhhh

[@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer]

A mathematician 2,000 years ago used something like a sun dial to measure the earth's circumference and he was a few thousand kilometres off

[@pembrokeshiredan]

His sundial has 12 hours for a 24 hour day. Even if he tilted the whole thing to make his gnomon point at the pole, he'd still be off by a factor of 2.

[@tobbex7372]

30 degrees between every "hour". He hasn't listen to Bob Knodel.

[@MrJonnyharry]

Can’t believe I didn’t pick up on this. He thinks the sun goes round twice a day now?

[@2000vph]

This is a common mistake. I taught this to my kid when he was like 5 years old I I thought I'd take it easy and print a ready-made dial from the internet and just put a stick on it. More than every other sundial only had 12 hours. Somehow this video I amusing because the guy really tries to think but sad because he fails so miserably.

[@BlairdBlaird]

TBF Sundials rarely have 24 hours, since the sun goes out. Usually they'll do between 4AM-8PM and 6AM-6PM depending on style and location (IIRC an equatorial sundial can go up to 3AM - 9PM).

[@Wordavee1]

Well spotted!! 👍

[@Sejl]

Jesus on a t-shirt? Check Conspiracy theorist? Check Cross around the neck? Check Homeschooled? Check Absolutely clueless about science? Check

[@-Thauma-]

You forgot: Incel? Check

[@stephenwedderburn9307]

Creationist, noahs ark enthusiast

[@egpx]

And industrial quantities of some mysterious nicotine product. Check.

[@daniele1569]

The full text in the shirt is Jesus never tapped out - so also a bad jujitsu training partner.

[@BlairdBlaird]

Dude is not just clueless about science, he's even clueless about sundials, and just plain observations of the sun. His "sundial behaviour" at 8:30 is how literally no sundial works on earth (except as dan notes on the pole itself though even then it'd use a 24h graduation not 12). And the shortening and almost (or actual on the tropics, and as Dan notes on the equator during the equinox) disparition of shadows is exactly what you observe in summer. Dude lectures about sundials but has apparently never looked at his sundial for an actual day let alone day in day out over a year, it's amazing. Also he's apparently never head of vertical sundials.

[@theofungi6562]

A new flatearther helping us debunk their own tests. Must be related to Bob. Thanks Bob.

[@jase_allen]

I love how he does his little sundial experiment inside using an artificial light instead of outside with the actual sun. Seems to me he knew he wouldn't get the results he desired outside. 🙄

[@stevemack7110]

The placement of his sun dial in the middle of the driveway proves he doesn't have a car.

[@CD_Character]

Or that his wife has made a run to the store and he only has a few minutes. This would also explain why he couldn't leave it up long enough to see that it doesn't work!!

[@omeshsingh8091]

As someone who lives in the Southern hemisphere, I hate how so many flerfs pretend that the place that I live doesn't exist.

[@zakmckracken8544]

Does he not realise the "sundial" he built in the drive, would produce completely different results to his explanation with the pencil? In fact, he says it doesn't work outside, but reproduces the same "model" inside and that works as he expects!

[@sheltongolden4394]

That's a good point. All he would have to do is observe his "sundial" for a while and he would see the result wouldn't match his expectations.

[@christopherellis2663]

If he knew how to design a sundial, he would know that it requires Spherical Trigonometry. Obviously, he is clueless. Noon is when the shadow is shortest. His construction is not a sundial.

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

Agreed... but the imaginary friend on his t-shirt made him do it.

[@peterdurnien9084]

Its just a stick and some stones.

[@stephenhood2948]

You didn't expect a functional sundial did you?? I don't think this guy could snap two Legos together, let alone build a functional anything.

[@coyotezee]

Au contraire: It involves the sun and it has a dial; therefore, it is a sun dial.

[@christopherellis2663]

@@coyotezee 😆

[@user-we8nz3hm2g]

When you argue with an idiot, a casual bystander cannot tell the difference.

[@neonshadow5005]

"If anyone knows anything about a sun-dial!" .. Clearly that isn't you.

[@fabianb8847]

So what I got from the demonstration is that sun dials also work at night...when the sun is also shining because it never sets.

[@ErnieMathews]

Somehow I missed this. You were one of my first KZbin folks, and are still enjoyed and appreciated. You improved my maths skills, even!

[@dallasgrant]

I may cop flak for this but as soon as I saw his shirt I knew nothing that came out his mouth was going to be believable.

[@tma2001]

yeah I've noticed after watching a lot of Christian apologists recently that they use the same tactics as flerfs.

[@patrickfox-roberts7528]

yeah go with one myth, why not another

[@ChockHolocaust]

Yup. I know we should endeavour to not judge a book by its cover, but I'm pretty sure an assessment of that kind will be spot on in his case. In fact I'll go one further and guess that's a 'white is right Trump voter' we're looking at.

[@thepooz7205]

@@tma2001HUGE overlap in that Venn diagram

[@peterbrazier7107]

So the Sun doesn't set on the Flat Earth?

[@diegostalder9663]

hmmm.... if we were on a flat earth, his sun dial actually worked. but since it doesnt, he just proved we are not on a flat earth....

[@federicogiana]

If we were living on a flat Earth where a) it was always daytime and b) the days lasted only 12 hours we probably would've noticed by now... but his sundial wouldn't have worked anyway, unless the Sun was circling specifically above his region, making all other sundials in the world non-working.

[@ulrichbongartz2372]

@@federicogiana That is the point: It works because the Universe spins around HIM.

[@RecordableMusic]

Imagine being this so convinced that he knows something nobody else has ever found out, millions of people before him are all wrong. His ego must be dangerously big.

[@StAjoraGames]

"They messed up our timeline?" Who? Are there other timelines we should be aware of?

[@sandoumir4348]

I think he just spoiled the plot of the next Marvel movie.

[@Zane12ai]

The only thing worse than a flat earther... is a flat earther that understands physics

[@Zacht1980]

Doing things incorrectly, making false conclusions, and feeling superior to others. Yep, this guy is definitely a flat earther.

[@RozzmanLists]

"it goes around ... see that? Around ... around ..." And that is why we don't have night on earth ... ever. Because in the course of our 12 hour day, the sun goes all around us. No way is this guy for real! Gotta lie to flerf.

[@Hairysteed]

I'm not sure if he's either lying or just very, very stupid.

[@diallo1347]

Imagine if Flat Earthers put this much energy into a community garden. They could feed the whole neighborhood for free

[@albertortiz5277]

The amount of confidence in their ignorance is simply outstanding.

[@muskyoxes]

How do you know if a flat earther is new? When they aren't yet too embarrassed to call themselves a flat earther. "I'm more of a globe skeptic." "I'm a demonstrable realist." "I don't make any claims." "I don't have a model."

[@zyxw2000]

:-D

[@justinwhite2725]

Yup. The new one will show you a map they found online, an experienced one knows that none of the maps accurately explain observed reality.

[@rafaelallenblock]

When i look up in the sky I have never seen the sun go around in a circle over my head.

[@zebastinio]

"In my opinion" yes, the basis for every good argument.

[@mrpositronia]

Why doesn't he keep the camera recording the dial for a whole day?

[@raymondsalzwedel]

That's what I thought. The scientific method is: 1. Make a guess about something. 2. Compute the consequences of your guess. 3. Measure reality and compare to your computations. Refer to Dr Feinman. Thanks Richard.

[@ParasocialCatgirl]

Well, if we were to assume good faith on his part - chances are that he doesn't want to risk anyone turning up whilst he's not looking and nicking his camera and tripod. Alternatively, chances are that he might not have enough storage space on his camera/phone for a full 24 hours of storage. Or maybe his only camera is his phone camera and he (understandably) isn't keen on the idea of 'leaving his phone outside and not being able to use it for the whole day whilst recording some footage which inevitably will consume all remaining storage space on the phone'

[@Yehan-xt7cw]

@@ParasocialCatgirl About point 1: if he'd use a P900, he wouldn't have to worry about that.

[@netherstar623]

He did. Then he threw it out as it did not confirm his delusions. 😆

[@mrpositronia]

@@ParasocialCatgirl maybe. But it's more likely he never carries out full experiments and just fully believes his own judgements. Because if he did complete his expermients, he would already know his sundial doesn't work. Unless he lives at either pole, of course. But from the video, that doesn't appear to be the case. He can always try it in his back garden, should he have one. He could also knowingly be gaslighting people out of spite. And there's nothing stopping him from taking pictures every hour. No need to keep the camera running.

[@MrCovi2955]

Dude so hilariously misinterpreted how Sundials look, because he used a clock instead of a sundial as reference, that he forgot how the sun moves in the sky over his own head.

[@dragonfiremalus]

He is right, his sun dial will only work on a flat earth. Too bad he didn't stick around long enough to see that it doesn't work.

[@j4s0n39]

I was about to make a joke that there's a giant bar magnet running under the flat earth from one pole to another, then remembered that the north pole is in the center, and the south pole is a circle around the perimeter. That made me wonder: how would the magnetic poles work on a flat earth?

[@rattusprat]

Jesus.

[@blowc1612]

Magic just like how their sun moves for the seasons and it magically stops the light for night time.

[@zdeneknovak5276]

If you had a giant bar magnet sticking perpendicularly to the Earth under the north pole, compasses would work on a flat Earth.

[@abderahmanoubaha7957]

Circular magnets: A disc under the north pole A ring under the south pole It would still be ridiculous, don't get me wrong But it would be slightly more plausible

[@patrickfox-roberts7528]

In so far as they have considered it (and they have not) I think they have an idea of a magnetic monopole (which does not exist) ie there is just a magnetic south pole in the arctic and our compasses seek that; the 'ice wall' , geographical south, is just in the opposite direction.

[@dennisc6716]

The number 1 symptom of Flerfitis is an inability to think in 3 dimensions.

[@robosock380]

His driveway isn't even flat, let alone the earth.

[@the_original_goldmann]

07:08 "We gonna do our perfect circle..." immediately fucks up

[@adamm2787]

That honestly pissed me off more than anything else in the video. That and on his outside sundial the lines from 12-6 and 9-3 were nowhere near perpendicular.

[@o9arceneaux]

I hadn't laughed that hard in a very long time when he did that

[@danyeager7561]

Excellent! A 24-hour sundial! Now when my bladder wakes me up in the middle of the night, I'll know the time.

[@wgroenewald]

As a South African I can confirm that we in fact do not exist

[@terranceparsons5185]

If you want to go to Australia or Chile, you fly over the north pole, right!

[@vetinaris1297]

I knew it! 😂

[@Skenderbeuismyhero]

Eratosthenes would slap his forehead if he saw this.

[@abderahmanoubaha7957]

The ancient babylonians would call him a foolish idiot if they saw this

[@abderahmanoubaha7957]

And they were flat earthers

[@adaptavist-alianos]

Would it not be simpler to just visit any properly constructed public sundial?

[@capq57]

I've got his sundial problem figured out. The Sun circles overhead every 12 hours, twice a day, but they turn it off at night.

[@ericb3157]

oh, yeah, the MOON is the sun when it's off! "that's sarcasm, by the way."

[@RolandHutchinson]

The sun would be cheaper to run if they turned it on at night when the rates are lower, and off during the day.

[@leqball11]

He just proved the earth NOT flat seeing how he'd never get those shadows that he demonstrated with his phone. These people crack me up

[@134StormShadow]

How to say 'I'm fecking clueless' without saying 'I'm fecking clueless' 😂😂😂

[@vacapsfan]

And they wonder why we need to spend more on STEM education.

[@zyxw2000]

He's way below STEM level. I taught my second-graders about what causes day and night.