Flat Earther Makes the Funniest Eclipse Demonstration EVER

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Yes, Anthony Bear is back for Flat Earth Friday using a roll of duct tape to eclipse a torch to show us that eclipses wouldn't work on Earth. You read that correctly.
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[@Waniou137]

"If something's perspectively smaller, then it's actually smaller" So if I use my thumb to block out the moon, the moon is smaller than my thumb. Got it.

[@M_Alexander]

I don't think you can be a flat earther without failing to comprehend perspective and scale

[@MonkeyJedi99]

These cows are small. Those cows are far away

[@angrydoggy9170]

Most flatters appear to be dudes. Can’t blame them for playing the perspective game to feel secure about their size. I blame adult videos for the rise of FE.

[@katieheys3007]

I'm as tall as the Effiel Tower in a photo my friend took! Illuminati confirmed!

[@Anson_AKB]

Perspective exists, but you have to know when and how to apply it correctly. (instead of always mixing it up with ratios, scale, etc, like "earth and moon to scale, sun at perspective")

[@bramvissers4985]

He should be guided and encouraged throughout his experiments. He is SO close to getting it.

[@user-xh9pt8zu2l]

But we need to follow the money. How many normal people talking about reality can distinguish themselves enough to get a social media presence unless they have something else to offer? If being a flerf is all you got then conversation is also self annihilation, unless you have another angle to pitch. Making that work takes courage, luck, and talent. Dan is asking a lot of a mere human: is Anthony more than a simple grifter?

[@Achie79]

It's like watching a marathon runner in first place who stops 500 m before the finish line and then is running in circles, meanwhile everyone else is passing him.

[@OldManPaxusYT]

@@user-xh9pt8zu2l I think once you have the audience, that is NEVER a problem! (Esp. if you love weird stuff!) - In fact, personally, one of my BIGGEST PROBLEMS is that i 100 ideas i would LOVE to create separate channels about but i can't even do 2 at the same time! I'm sure a guy who loves conspiracies has a dozen other things he wants to investigate or talk about! So, pivot to another mystery, conspiracy... ORRRRRR, he could even TEACH 'flat-earthers' HOW HE WAS CONVERTED BY SCIENCE TO SEE THE EARTH IS A SPHERE!

[@user-xh9pt8zu2l]

@@OldManPaxusYT Yes, that would show the man has talent, and is willing to take a risk. I wish to share your optimism, but fear that theorem about regression to the mean will mostly leave a grifter where we found them.

[@tma2001]

so close and yet so far! (pun intended ;)

[@LexyThomas134]

Only thing flat earthers fear is sphere itself 🌎

[@SciManDan]

🥇

[@PumpkinDefender]

@@SciManDanThis needs to be on a tshirt!

[@DavidBritton-nl1wv]

Go on, do the one about cats knocking everything off.🙄

[@neon-rust]

Worked on that one for a long time, waiting for a time to show it off?🤣

[@andrewdillon7837]

oh wow , this joke again , like how original ,,like yay or something..

[@MrEjwheeler]

If he is using a golf ball 15 feet from the Earth to represent the Moon, he needs a light bulb 17 metres in diameter that is 1.8km away to represent the Sun. Good luck with that model Anthony!

[@ceejay0137]

Or he could just use the actual Sun, as the folks in the video at 7:30 did. All he needs to do is take his globe and golf ball outside on a sunny day. I wonder if that would convince him?

[@Slimmeyy]

​@@andystokes8702 The English language uses periods as decimal separator, not commas. Using 3 decimal places doesn't help either, as it just makes it seem like you're claiming a factor of 393229 instead of the 393.2 that you're actually using. Same goes for the km result, just typing 1,8 km would be understood as 1.8 instead of 1800.

[@NukemKaGe10]

Or he could scale the distance to the sun to fit a smaller light source that is still larger than his moon representation. I've done this myself and it works great.

[@charleshill506]

He could use a smaller sun and place it closer to the moon if he got the perspective right. Oh, that's right, never mind.

[@christopherdean1326]

I was just wondering what the proper scale should be, thanks for saving me a load of time working it out!

[@attila0323]

I'm actually amazed that he tried to build a scale model...nice!

[@thudthud5423]

Agreed! My personal scale uses a basketball and a cue ball. I was delighted to see that he used a 6in plastic globe and a golf ball.

[@Anson_AKB]

he should be asked for the diameter of the lamp *_at correct scale_* and how distant the lamp should be *_at correct scale_* (I'm optimistic enough that he would be able to give those answers correctly !) when not taking the wrong shortcut of doing only earth and moon at correct scale but the sun with some "perspective" (and here I'm expecting some reasonable answer "that can't be done in my garage/house", followed by falling back to his "perspective" instead)

[@attila0323]

@@Anson_AKB Yeah, the Sun in his model would need to be far outside of his house, so hard to build a properly scaled model.

[@gmunny46]

This is the most science I have ever seen a Flat Earther try to do. Honestly? Respect

[@thudthud5423]

If he keeps it up, he's going to have a "Hey...wait a minute!" moment.

[@paulslund1]

@@thudthud5423 I was just about to post how he tries on scenario but doesn't attempt other scenarios (i..e moving the light further, seeing what happens with a different shape light, etc. and thought it was deliberately deceptive. But I think you're right.. he just hasn't clued in on the "hmm.. if I change something what does it look like?" moments..

[@scottlarson1548]

And the Moon casting a relatively small shadow on the Earth is counterintuitive to how we see shadows normally so I can understand how he gets this wrong.

[@mimivrc4148]

normally i just come down here and call the people from these videos scammers, but this is the first time I have ever felt like a flat earther is being honest and legit (but still wrong). my eyes widened when I saw the globe and golf ball far from it, that entire first experiment was shocking really! I definitely do see him "waking up" some day, IF, he is not one of the usual grifter flat earthers doing it to make money off vulnerable people

[@scottlarson1548]

@@mimivrc4148 It would be nice if he would say something like, "If something's wrong with my experiment, please tell me." Normally they proclaim that they've disproved centuries of science in their living room.

[@vinnyganzano1930]

He's a lot closer than a lot of flerfs ever get. I suspect this one could be saved.

[@olliesmusic2586]

I think most can. For a lot of people, it's not about the shape of the earth. It's about a lack of trust.

[@Thirdbase9]

​@@olliesmusic2586but not most KZbinrs. Most of them seem to be more into the con and grift. I think it's going to be hard to get him to understand why he's wrong though.

[@vinnyganzano1930]

@@olliesmusic2586 They trust the wrong people.

[@do_notknow_much]

Or he could be fudging things on purpose to fit his flerf narrative. Being intellectually dishonest. His sheeple will not know the difference. If he knows the scale difference and distance difference between his Desk Globe and Golf Ball, he most likely knows his light source would need to be much larger and farther away. ...Or he could have just used the actual Sun outside as the light source.

[@do_notknow_much]

I think he is messing up the experiment on purpose. Being intellectually dishonest. ...He knows the Globe to Moon size ratio and distance ratio between them. But he chooses a Sun size that is incorrect on purpose and claims perspective in a flerfspective like way. ...Flerf Bear knows he could have setup the experiment using the actual outside Sun. He knows his sheeple followers won't know the difference.

[@rojh9351]

So, to get an umbra penumbra, you need a bigger sunbra.

[@ceejay0137]

LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dr.a006]

Sun, bruh

[@szwolinski4587]

Love it!

[@BlatantUk]

Aye Carumba!

[@OGYettie]

He's so close to getting it.

[@MarceldeJong]

Yes but he’ll never take the last step to actually getting it.

[@0SnakeDoctor]

I love flat earthers telling us that the path of totality doesn't work on a heliocentric model, but not showing us how it works on a flat-earth model. Oh, that's right. They haven't got a flat-earth model.

[@h14hc124]

That's the flat earth way.. they are convinced that if they can find any sort of a hole in the 'globe theory', then it automatically proves the flat earth right.

[@grahvis]

@@h14hc124 . While ignoring the countless faults in any flat earth model.

[@thudthud5423]

There are Flat Earthers who believe that there is a magnetic mountain at the North Pole with a lake of fire inside it. They believe that inside the lake of fire is a "Black Sun" that projects shadows onto the Sun and Moon to cause eclipses. I am not joking. This is what they believe. As I recall, this is what Eric Dubay believes. {Banging my head against a wall trying to figure out how you project a shadow onto a light source like the Sun.)

[@DoctorZisIN]

The only model I've seen has a small sun and a small moon hovering in circles on the same plane above the deflated earth. Sorry, you can't have eclipses in that configuration. But eclipses do happen. They try to poke pinholes into reality while ignoring the gaping holes in their fantasy.

[@TheZodiacRipper]

@@DoctorZisIN If they only would move the sun in an elliptic path instead of a circular one with the continents next to each other in the north and south respectively their model would work slightly better.

[@defecakes845]

One thing I never understand is that flat earthers always try to prove that something wouldn’t work on a round earth. But never try to demonstrate how it will work on a flat earth

[@Anson_AKB]

when it is impossible to prove one thing A, it is easier to simply state (not prove) that there are only two things A and B, and then state (not prove) that the other thing B is false and thus A *_must_* be true.

[@ceejay0137]

@@Anson_AKB Technically known as the "False dichotomy" fallacy. Creationists are very find of that one!

[@sarumano884]

It demonstrably DOES work on a Flat Earth. You're standing on one, remember? 😂

[@peterpan408]

​@Anson_AKB Disproving B only disproves B, nothing more. Is A still possible, yes. Even if B was proven, depending on the situation, A can also be true. Was it smoking or drinking that caused the disease?? The thing is.. Flat Earth theories are disproven.

[@fallouthirteen]

Pff, just look outside, that's how it works of a flat earth (note - I'm being sarcastic).

[@JontysCorner]

"Now Dougal. These cows a very small, those cows outside are far away. Small, far away. D'ya understand now Father?"

[@thomasowens5824]

I have used this, you beat me to it, lol.

[@carlchapman4053]

Are you saying that thing don't actually shrink when they move away but they just look smaller? My mind is blown!!

[@thomasowens5824]

@@carlchapman4053 Just in case I am reading you wrong, He is talking about a famous sketch from a British/Irish comedy tv show called Father Ted.

[@siwilson1437]

I didn't have to scroll for long to find this comment. :thumbsup:

[@carlchapman4053]

@@thomasowens5824 I know that Thomas, I'm English and you just misunderstood our very sarcastic sense of humour, sorry.

[@tonyjackson4078]

Flat Earthers aren't any fun. They just can't have a ball.

[@keith726able]

Do you know why mice have such small balls? Because very few mice know how to dance! 😅

[@philipwagner9169]

"Notice the hat is empty. I cover the hat with the hanky, and - Umbra Penumbra! - There's a rabbit!"

[@SpydersByte]

lol

[@distinctdipole]

Colossal misunderstanding in... 3... 2... 1... He gets close but misses. Ouch!

[@mrwho995]

Genuinely, good for him for trying to build a scale model and for accepting facts like casting a smaller shadow. That makes him much much better than 99% of flat earthers.

[@pencilpauli9442]

Never mind disproving the eclipse on the heliocentric model, I'm still waiting to be told how eclipses work on a pancake planet.

[@MrCejw]

Father Ted needs to explain cows AGAIN!

[@mickfromleitrim]

"careful now"

[@vetinaris1297]

How is that 30 secomd intro to the scene still just one of the funniest things ever filmed?

[@derrickransom6254]

Why don't they go ahead and show how what we are seeing would work on their flat earth model?

[@protoborg]

Can't show what doesn't exist.

[@Fred2-123]

They don't need to sow how it works on a flat earth. If they can't get it to work on a globe model, that automatically proves flat earth. Somehow.

[@craigyoung8008]

He got half way with using an appropriately scaled “moon”. But then neglected to scale the “sun”.

[@Kalepsis]

Maybe we should send him on the Antarctic trip to see the midnight sun.

[@jay70328]

Nothing will ever be funnier than the gate guy..

[@andrewdillon7837]

And the cool rock music background ,,,thats when i first saw sciman ,,,

[@SysterYster]

@@andrewdillon7837 Same here!

[@violetscreaming]

You need to share the hilarity with the uninitiated… please

[@OldManPaxusYT]

a link would have been good 🙄

[@jay70328]

@@OldManPaxusYT links don't work in KZbin comments 🙄

[@w0zy]

I used to believe the world was a globe. Then I discovered the flat earth videos. Now I believe the globe is covered with idiots.

[@kubiscann124]

Anthony may be one of the rare true flat earthers, he tries to show us with honesty how he understands (misunderstands) things in order to believe in a flat earth.

[@pembrokeshiredan]

You get a penumbra whenever the light is not a point source. The significance of having a light source bigger than the object casting the shadow is that that's how you get an umbra smaller than the object.

[@RustyDust101]

Earth scale: check Moon scale: check Sun scale: fail, massive, MASSIVE fail. Sun-Moon-Earth distance: even more MASSIVE fail. Back to the drawing board, bear.

[@jasmijnariel]

At least the result was more real than it would be on the flat earth model😂

[@FluidKaos]

​@@jasmijnarielor simulator...

[@Fanzschnabs]

Hey, hold on, not ALL his fail here is his own, only 99.9999%, AND I can prove it : at 2:37 , the NEWS talk about an eclipse and show a LUNAR eclipse : sun in the back, earth in the middle, moon in the front... SO, even the news can't get it right, and you cannot expect him to actually know more than ACTUAL news guys, they probably are the summum of intelligence for him...

[@DieselsVideos]

And let's talk about the Human scale check. A solar eclipse would look different if one eye is on the west coast and one on the east coast But something like that is the equivalent of the lens size even with a small lens.

[@Simmonsumers35]

He gets so close with some of these experiments that it almost feels like he's trolling.

[@Bronzescorpion]

I like the premise of proving something doesn't work on a model, which perfectly predicted the phenomenon before it happened.

[@tonycook1624]

You have won with this observation alone

[@bernhardschmalhofer855]

But surely flat earthers must claim that NASA does the calculations in a flat earth model and then lies about how it was done.

[@Ostro1980]

He's proving the globe

[@PeerAdder]

9:46 - I know I'm repeating myself, but this is _exactly_ what is wrong with flerfs. He is actually making a _prediction_ from one instance of a physical scenario: you only get a fuzzy penumbra if the angular size of the light is larger than the angular size of the object casting the shadow. He could easily test this prediction, by moving his light progressively further away, until it is the same angular size as the object, and further still, and record the shadow at each distance. He could repeat this for different size lights and different size objects. He could plot the sizes of the umbra and penumbra as functions of the different variables and compare them to what simple geometry would say should happen. And if he did that, he would learn that simple geometry is correct, and that you can get a fuzzy penumbra around small umbra in all kinds of cases, including ones corresponding to the heliocentric model. But he doesn't do this. He doesn't do _any_ of this. Why? Because confirmation bias is so strong in him that as soon as he gets a single example that seems to confirm what he already thinks is true he stops looking. It is lazy, dishonest, ignorant pseudoscience, and it is precisely what _all flerfs do_ when they aren't outright lying.

[@neonshadow5005]

The age old enemy of Flerfs ... scale.

[@NastyMick]

"If something is perspectively smaller, then it's actually smaller." Ah. Good to know my thumb is in fact literally bigger than the sun when I hold it in front of my eye.

[@snygg1993]

Please, don't look at the sun. You can do the same thing with the moon ... because moon and sun have perspectively the same size.

[@fireriffs]

My thumb is bigger than my neighbor's house! How do they live in there?

[@marvinko6610]

I would rather know how it would work on a flat earth. But they’re never interested in that

[@Anson_AKB]

_"i don't know how it could work on a flat earth, but if i doubt the globe, and don't doubt flat earth myself, flat is automatically right since there is nothing else"_ task for homework: count the number of fallacies in this statement.

[@RealBLAlley]

I want to know how they explain the lack of shadow from the track on which the Moon travels.

[@awfuldynne]

@@Anson_AKB There's got to be at least 3 in there. "I don't know how it could work on a flat earth" means Flerf hasn't done the homework needed to present flat earth as a competing hypothesis-shifting the burden of proof. ("I don't know how it works" doesn't on its own constitute shifting the burden of proof, but paired with the false dilemma later in the sentence...) "if I doubt the globe and don't doubt flat earth myself" confuses personal belief with evidence. I'm not sure about names, but I'd put this one in the same family as the arguments from incredulity/intuition. "Flat is automatically right" would be the fallacy of the false dichotomy if the doubt-based antecedent weren't fallacious on its own. "if I don't doubt flat earth, flat earth is right" is also a _non sequitur._

[@SkodaZek]

I agree with you about Anthony. I like him. Unlike the vast majority of his ilk (flat earth conspiracy theorists), he actually attempts to problem-solve and produce results through experimentation, even if his conclusions are flawed. It is oddly refreshing to see someone who does not just watch conspiracy theory videos on KZbin and then merely parrot the talking points. There is a degree of genuine honesty to him. I do believe he can be helped.

[@S1nwar]

he was so proud that earth and moon are to scale that he thought the suns size/distance would just be a formality

[@brucestarling7665]

How do they think that the prediction of the eclipse was calculated.😂

[@JW-mb6tq]

Think? 😂

[@vetinaris1297]

They think it was programmed into the hologram projector.

[@Anson_AKB]

there is no problem calculating it with *_google earth_* which (according to at least one of them) *_is a model of flat earth_* !!!

[@dragoncubes1074]

He keeps calling it an umbra-penumbra as though that's one thing. I don't think he understands what each really are.

[@davich_]

It's an umbra-penumbra conundrum.

[@NeutralDrow]

@@davich_ Sadly, he was too far south for it to be a tundra umbra-penumbra conundrum.

[@slenkish]

Technically you can't have one without the other in the earth-moon-sun system

[@joerichardson4325]

Kinda reminds me of "gunka gunkagalunga"...a gift from the Dalai Lama which translates (loosely) to "on your deathbed...you will receive total consciousness". So...you'll have that going for you! Carl Spackler😊

[@andymouse]

Yeah you beat me to it, he doesn't have a clue. I had a friend who used to call his dad's car a "VauxhallAstra" he had only heard that and so didn't realise it was an Astra made by Vauxhall !

[@captainlengthwidth6692]

He's so close! In the words of the great Max Smart, "Missed it by that much."

[@heatshield]

5:48 yes and (waiting for you to talk about the distance problem) now I’m laughing out loud at “umbrapenumbra” like it’s one single word. Flerfs love to say umbrapenumbra like it’s a magic spell. LOL

[@susancorbett8155]

I was going to make the same comment. Maybe magic is the answer.

[@DavidBritton-nl1wv]

The flat Earth version of abra cadabra

[@violetscreaming]

Who else is drunk after taking a shot EVERYTIME he says umbra penumbra

[@violetscreaming]

@@DavidBritton-nl1wvgod damn, I just got that out of my head courtesy of me Eminem…. And now it’s solidly back in my head.

[@tonycook1624]

@@DavidBritton-nl1wv Don't use killing curses in public

[@capq57]

It's adorable when flerfs try to "science" with whatever happens to be lying around.

[@DJ_Sycottic]

Well, I suppose he tried. Got it wrong but he did try. Which is better than most flerfs...

[@distracting_games]

He might be one of the most intellectually honest flat earthers I've seen.

[@h14hc124]

Agreed.. he doesn't understand, but at least he's honest about trying to.

[@thudthud5423]

Honesty is the kryptonite to the Flat Earth cult. If a Flat Earther is too honest, he or she will see the flaw in his or her cult's teachings and have to abandon them.

[@kevinmould6979]

Just not quite intellectual enough.

[@riconui5227]

I’m not sure “intellectual” is the proper term to apply here. If there were anything intellectual going on, he wouldn’t be wasting his time flerfing.

[@fallouthirteen]

He's so close to actually proving the thing he's trying to disprove but just gets some detail wrong so the results are off (like those experiments show it can work, they show the different elements working).

[@Serpentor2000]

Have you seen the commercial for the new movie Fly me to the moon? All moon landing deniers will love this. They will say it’s them covertly telling us the moon landing was faked. Can’t wait for that.

[@dragoncubes1074]

It'll be interesting to see how they react to it. Can't wait to see it.

[@artgoat]

"Capricorn One" did it 47 years ago.

[@dragoncubes1074]

@@artgoat And "Dark side of the Moon". Brilliant movie.

[@coolhive2941]

Anyone else find themselves shrieking every time they catch his reflection in a shot? The dudes doing this naked!!

[@andrewsisson6536]

I'm actually kinda surprised at how close he was to actually getting it! Keep working through it, Antony!

[@Thomas-fb5tf]

He actually says something that could be a EUREKA moment. He says (in reference to the actually very accurate globe eclipse model): "real life is not a model!" Bingo Anthony! Now apply that logic to your own model instead of thinking it's Flat-Earth-Flawless.

[@chtrouvpadnom]

I can't focus on the experiments when the reflection in the window shows the dude walking with his camera in his underwear 🤣🤣

[@vetinaris1297]

Well, neither can I now thank you very much!

[@jedrzejkraszpulski442]

Shocking amount of critical thinking and actual logic. This flat earther doesn't seem totally gone just yet.

[@aeonturnip2]

Usual flat earth model fail: on his scale, the sun would have to be a mile away and about 18 metres across.

[@irrelevant_noob]

Technically it could work even with a 20-ft away sun, it just needs to be large enough to match the angular span... Oh and i feel part of the issue for the apparent lack of the penumbra is due to the reflective surfaces (white door and walls), if he would cover those with a black fabric it might improve the result.

[@kimothy1701]

Ha ha. Just posted the same thing with the represented earth moon model the scale of the sun would be around 54 feet (16.5 meters) in diameter and 1.1 miles (1.8 kilometres) away from the Earth. Pretty much what you have said. 😊

[@Elysium_the_Bard]

I actually just noticed something that I've gotta give the flerf props for... This is probably one of the higher-tier production videos that I've seen come out of them, not counting any outsourcing. There was actual cuts, editing, some level of audio balance, use of still-frames (instead of Cloverfield-levels of shaky cam or cartheism), as well as non-flashy and relevant video effects to point out things being talked about. Honestly, I'm genuinely impressed! There might actually be hope for this flerf yet. If not escaping the flerf cult, then at least as some type of film editor. He just needs to keep practicing those video editing techniques.

[@josephaltman460]

9:12 dude is NEKKID! 😆 🤣 😂

[@ilmanti]

3:33 too. dude put on some clothes first jesus christ.

[@KevinVenturePhilippines]

Is he actually conducting experiments? I don't care what he believes, for the work alone I love this guy!! He is not far from getting it!

[@Nilguiri]

The problem is not just the penumbra, but the fact that his light rays are not arriving parallel. All of his shadows will be larger than the objects that cast them. Hence his golf-ball moon's shadow is much larger than the golf ball. If he put his light source a couple of hundred metres away, he would get better results not only because the light would arrive more parallel but he would get a decent penumbra. You really should have pointed this out, Dan. Cheers.

[@Sivarion]

This is the very first time I've ever seen a flat-earther who gives the impression that he actually cares about the truth rather than spreading his vision of the world. He actually tries to take into account how the eclipse really works and tries to reproduce it as closely as he can in his experiments. The first flat-earth publications were around 1850, just imagine what they would achieve given another 150-200 years!

[@bailee1338]

3:44 that dude is naked as hell LOL

[@valkhorn]

Uh…. You might be right.

[@davidg4288]

The old "reflective object for sale on e-bay trick"!

[@rebelwolf1144]

I knew I couldn't have been the only one to notice lol

[@SloppyGoat]

It always comes down to them not comprehending scale, at all. 🙄

[@davidamarat]

He could be rescued, i wish.

[@psycotria]

The April 8th total solar eclipse was GREAT! I bought a motorcycle two weeks prior, loaded up the wife and some gear, and rode from South Florida to west of Jonesboro, Arkansas to see it. We arrived to a suitable spot 20 minutes before totality, saw the Show in a clear sky. AWESOME! 20 minutes later, we were heading home. ~2300 miles in eight days, with stops. So glad we did it. Not a Flerfer in sight...

[@joseraulcapablanca8564]

Close but no cigar. Interesting to see a flat earthier thinking. Thanks Dan.

[@bills6093]

"After your first box, your membership will be billed at £27/m with free delivery" These things tend to be difficult to cancel, despite what they claim.

[@Nordwind46]

At this scale the sun would have to be 16 meters across and 1,8 kilometers far away from earth

[@tonycook1624]

In English number formatting this is "1.8 kilometers"

[@snygg1993]

He could scale the sun *correctly* to use a smaller and closer light source

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

Yeah ..... *He has the size of our sun wrong, BUT he still PROVED our Globe !* 🤩 Hat's off to him, he is really close, to get it all right ! 👍 Keep going buddy !

[@johncatty6560]

Why am I not surprised that he included a FOX broadcast in his video?

[@andyh3065]

Could have been worse. Could have been an OAN or Newsmax story 😂

[@johncatty6560]

@@andyh3065 True that :D

[@MikeInHalifax]

Or the worst of the worst anti news MSNBC. That and The View are for dummies ​@andyh3065

[@TheShitpostOutpost]

So what's worse: doing science-type, but doing it poorly, or not attempting science-type at all? Good for him for at least trying to do it legit.

[@SilverSlayer]

I can’t wait for the final experiment in December to end this nonsense lol it will be bitter sweet though because without flerfs, Scimandan won’t have epic content to make 😢

[@perry92964]

i dont think any of the flat earthers are going, so they will just say it was all fake and staged and they just went to canada or something

[@themont24]

Don't worry. The final experiment won't end the circus. Some Flerfs that go will finally drop their nonsense, but there will be some that will still find an alternative explanation. There'll also be all the flerfs that didn't go and they'll just carry on as they were

[@jimhaverlock9784]

Never fear! The FLERFS will never admit defeat. Understanding and intellectual honesty are impossible for them. I firmly believe you could take them to the ISS and they’d still insist it was faked by NASA.

[@irrelevant_noob]

@@themont24 you're assuming ANY of them will have the balls to actually go... Currently the single point they have on the scoreboard is because one of them merely _interviewed_ Will Duffy about the project. :-|

[@bobunyun]

I think you're putting too much faith in reason. It's common for people who use such beliefs as flat earth (but in no way is this limited to flat earth or even conspiracy theories) to define themselves in some measure to be more or less immune to proof. There are psychological reasons for this and I believe it's referred to as "phantasms". I could be wrong, I'm no expert so I may be completely mis-stating. Essentially, it's like a buffer and any observation of reality that demonstrates the falsity of the belief basically bounces off it. The phantasm is the defence against contradictions. You can see this in everyday political speech- just look at Fox News. So there may be some, perhaps our guy in this video, who may be persuaded, but the majority will retreat into their phantasm saying "hoax" "conspiracy" and other such nonsense.

[@MarkGFRex]

I'm impressed with his efforts in trying to prove his theories. He's definitely for turning given some help and guidance. There is hope for us yet.

[@heatshield]

🧹 UMBRAPENUMBRA!!! Pretty sure I should have just flown to hogwarts or something

[@richardscratcher6075]

Umbrapenumbras are real! They work in Willy Wonka's chocolate factory.

[@asiano3385]

I like Penumbra. (the game)

[@ibizenco]

An umbra *AND* a penumbra, Anthony. Anyway, back in 1999 we drove into the north of France (into the fields just south of the French town of Rethel) to go watch the solar eclipses of 11 August, 1999. It was one of the most spectacular things I have ever seen.

[@whosit112]

He claims the top and bottom of the tape shadow has no penumbra, but it does. If there were no penumbra, then the top edge of the shadow would be sharp, but it isn't because there is a penumbra. Dan is also wrong. A larger light source is not required for a penumbra. There will always be a penumbra if the light source is not a point. View a shadow of a basketball using a normal-sized light bulb as the source and you will see that there is a penumbra even though the light source is smaller than the object.

[@snygg1993]

Wrong. He claims the top and bottom of the tape shadow has no *umbrapenumbra* 😛

[@RodCornholio]

He’s given the best effort I’ve seen from a Flat Earther. So close, yet so far.

[@ianmccartney1974]

Flat earther, flat liner , same thing

[@h14hc124]

He was sooooooo close to getting it right, and then he jumped to a (wrong) conclusion, without verifying it experimentally.. if only he had peformed that last test of using progressively larger suns, further and further away.

[@TubeArmadillo]

I have never figured out what is the supposed gain of The Globe Conspiracy.

[@MSIContent]

Actually a pretty damn good attempt. Best I’ve seen from a flerf. As you say, he just jumped to the wrong conclusions. So close!

[@doomspud6302]

Using that roll of tape and the wide light was actually surprisingly clever. Its does a great job showing how you do only get a penumbra when the light source is larger than the object casting the shadow, by showing the interaction of two different ratios in a single model. Now, if only he had gone one step further, and tried changing the distances between the objects, he might have actually figured the rest of it out, too.

[@ThunderBassistJay]

Trying to imagine a life without knowledge. Scary! 😬

[@NeutralDrow]

Not even just without knowledge, but without actual curiosity!

[@ThunderBassistJay]

@@NeutralDrow Even more scary. 😁

[@phunkydroid]

The other thing that isn't to scale that no one seems to be pointing out is the camera lens. If you're trying to take a picture from the point of view of someone in the umbra in your scale model, but your lens is wider than your umbra, you won't see totality.

[@MarcoS-yp9qf]

As the keeper comes out of the box to cut off the angle.

[@ElectroNeutrino]

He's not toxic, and he seems genuine. If he can work through a few misconceptions, I believe he may come around.

[@davidhoward4715]

I wish this was the case; but flerfers never do come round.

[@refulgent_fanta]

Man, that dude's experiments are so frustrating! He's SO CLOSE! Just a tiny bit of tinkering and he's getting there. If Anthony Bear is seeing this, keep playing. You're almost there.

[@bunji4216]

He's so close to understanding the light from a star extends in all directions from every point on the surface and not just radial. SO CLOSE!

[@JamieSnell402]

In that last diagram showing the earth, he’s forgetting how small he would be standing on that Earth. Looking up at the moon and having a cone-shaped POV looking back at the moon and sun. His camera has such a big lens and sensor in his attempts to recreate it, he needs a tiny tiny camera to mimic how large his eyes would be

[@tma2001]

Several points about his demonstration: - compared his 'total eclipse' with a photo showing the ring of the corona with a golf ball making an annular eclipse as it didn't obstruct fully the light! - the light of on each side of the tape is not how an umbra works - off axis but still within the penumbra you see part of the bigger light source. Again he was showing an annular eclipse for a rectangular obstruction like the strip of tape. - he was _so_ _close_ but didn't understand how perspective makes things of different sizes have the same projected angular size when the bigger object is moved back far enough.

[@phunkydroid]

The light on each side is how you'd see it if your camera lens was wider than the umbra you're trying to take the photo from.

[@tma2001]

@@phunkydroid thats a good point - eyeballing it, the tape might of appeared to him to fully obstruct the light but as you say, in camera, its aperture may have been a lot larger than his pupil. Another reason why not everything was at scale in his demonstration.

[@Blind-Ghost-1980]

He's almost there. His disk mind will eventually get there. I'm proud of him.

[@Aurochhunter]

The dimples on the golf ball make a good representation of the moon's cratered surface.

[@LuigiFan1akaStar]

It feels very nice and refreshing to see something like Anthony Bear's honesty. It's also nice that he tries to actually do some scientific proof that it wouldn't work, even though it fails to some extent. Most Flat Earther wouldn't do it to any extent as him, either by not having it up to scale or anything at all depending on the person. Of course, it would be great to see him convert to a normal being that is seeing the truth of our globe. Just nice and refreshing video.

[@DavidG2P]

I almost became a Flat Earther by watching these scientific experiments by Anthony. He was very convincing, until I understood what was shown on that NASA graphic.

[@Beareboy]

So that's why it hurt when I was flying on the plane and people started looking up at the sky, I was shrinking in real time 😂

[@eljefeamericano4308]

This guy is not a lost cause. He put some real thought into his experiment. I'm so used to just absolute absurdity from the flat earth crowd that I'm just left impressed and hopeful for this guy.

[@bobiboulon]

His problem is that he stops when he finds what he wants to find. He doesn't try to prove himself wrong, so he can't find when he's wrong.

[@Tirana-qg1ft]

Thanks for the constant uploads Dan. Love the work.

[@KoRntech]

At Hamvention there I bought a inflatable eclipse kit by Learning Resources. I think thus in that Action Labs blackest of paint room would really get close.

[@sb...1]

"Ok, one last time. These are small. The ones out there are far away."

[@pascalreload]

Okay... That guy is completely naked ???? 🤣

[@AlexEdwards-sy4yo]

Any body else just watching the 15degree clock, to see how the video was edited, or is that just me?

[@1996champs]

Me too - nice to see he finally put a battery in it. 😄

[@Mike_W78]

Love that now that there is a clock on the wall we can see the edits.

[@yoongzy]

I somehow is a bit excited for a possibility that SciManDan can have a collab with Anthony.

[@jiubboatman9352]

The steel man for this is to accept everything being said and then ask for the predictive flat earth model that explains what is observed. I'll not hold my breath.

[@renedef1]

I love his demonstrations. Now make him explain the solar eclipse on a flat earth.

[@sundaynightdrunk]

Anthony is literally discovering how science works with experiments. Mad credit for that. His conclusions aren't good, but credit to him for actually trying these things out, and at least admitting that he sees the umbra/penumbra difference.