I spectated the WORST cheater to EVER be in a Top 500 Overwatch lobby

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[@Waffl3B1T]

Flats he’s really not cheating!! It’s his gamer chair and the pizza pockets from his mother brought to the basement!!!

[@DruidsCalling]

I love pizza pockets 😊 Chicken bacon ranch yummy

[@faithxvoid]

I heard a full head of hair and not hiding amorphous chins with beards helps with aim tremendously O.o

[@Waffl3B1T]

@@faithxvoidif you’re gonna talk about my lack of hair, at least blame the right disease that stole it :)

[@jtland4842]

@@faithxvoid Why are you getting offended from this comment my guy?

[@Waffl3B1T]

@@jtland4842 I must have struck a nerve? It’s the only comment they’ve made on flats videos lol

[@kaylievinchenstein9987]

if I started twitching like that while playing a game, I'd be worried my sugar levels are too low.

[@VVheeli]

I’d be worried about some reflex or jitter that needs surgery jesus. Watching this guy needs a motion sickness warning.

[@_peepee_]

did i find a fellow based type 1 diabetic??

[@DTFxMONSTERxDTF]

i mean in apex its called gitteraim, its reduces recoil on certain games, no reason in ovie but if its a habbit it would be hard to break

[@Yorishiriamori]

I do that cuz it feels like the more effective way to land an arrow as hanzo to me lol Just shake your aim around the target or draw a line side to side and release the arrow in the middle. mimic the aimbot and you may get it's results i guess kek

[@kaylievinchenstein9987]

@@Yorishiriamori that just sounds like aiming with extra steps

[@plushcap3320]

"how do you cheat and suck?" what is this, couple therapy?

[@BackstabAna]

lol thats what i was thinking!

[@Takejiro24]

☠

[@BeDatAPickle]

😂

[@Ofnir_Grabacr_]

Imagine if this guy spent as much time improving his gameplay as he did trying to find new ways to disguise his cheating.

[@drowzydullahan]

Totally off topic- But god damn has it been a hot fuckin' minute since I've seen the Xana icon. Memories restored, dear lord.

[@Ofnir_Grabacr_]

@@drowzydullahan You’re welcome 😜

[@CoLdBITeR]

Imma be honest, learning to get better at a game without cheats seems pointless for them, since they won't make money off of it, not like streamers. Every one of us gamers don't get paid for it, so if that's how they want to enjoy their time, all the power to them. Not like we bump into them every match.

[@notcyfhr]

@@CoLdBITeR you say that until they are lol

[@CoLdBITeR]

@@notcyfhr that has got to be the most vague answer. Your comment makes little sense. Please elaborate further, otherwise I'm going to just assume you agree with me. Good day.

[@rfrakctured]

I think managing cheats must actually be a big distraction to your game sense. Seeing players thru walls, and having a program control your mouse movement is going to throw off all your play. That's why they always have bad positioning, and take terrible angles. You can't act naturally because your decisions aren't based on naturally available information. Then you have to do stupid things to manage perception rather than just playing smarter and trying harder.

[@kingz8075]

my jaw legit dropped when he got that kill on brig when he switched to Tracer

[@timothywilcox9057]

Can we take a moment to appreciate the MicroFlats climbed to plat! Epic gamer moment 🙂

[@ricardogomez-paz8581]

What a Gamer

[@Villey]

MicroFlats became what we all wanted him to become!

[@-beebo]

Who’s microflats?

[@Villey]

@@-beebo the biggest legend in Bronze. Flats reacted to him I can’t remember the video title though

[@Whispitt]

@@Villey it was the vid with Whiskey the Genji I remember that much

[@cool_dog2727]

I feel for Flats frustration, it happened a few times myself in other games like CS, getting flamed by cheating teammates while watching them getting destroyed by better players that were legit, left with a tie but elo got refunded. Funny enough the other team had 2 cheaters on their side too. Can feel the salt the entire match the way they were cheating, getting headshots through walls every round.

[@EmoTheElephant]

problem is cheaters think they're entitled to win. When their cheats don't magically make their games easy or make them win everytime they start to lose it because they think they're owed the wins because of the money they spent (or like flats said, they think the only thing holding them back is aim, so a loss "must be" because of their team)

[@The_Ultimate_Fusion_Gogeta]

If people are gonna cheat they might as well just go all in with them instead of acting like they aren't cheating.

[@waitwhat238]

Thing about cheats is People who are already better can cheat better. Someone who is Bronze will be blatantly obvious with hacks because they still play like garbage, and they play with Over-"confidence" because they think their cheats give them an advantage. But a GM who turns on a hack client, odds are, you might not even catch them, because at that point, all the client is doing is moving their cursor maybe 2 pixels left or right. While Hacking is wrong and bad, there is one thing I want to see. I want to see someone train an AI to Play Overwatch like they've done to train them to play Starcraft.

[@Real_MisterSir]

well it's true, and proven by quite a few people getting busted for hacking in high level tourneys etc where they legitimately are decent players but they just tweak that software an extra bit to enable them to jump that last 1% through ranks which is the hardest to overcome. Same with physical sports, people who are best at doping/taking illegal substances are the ones who are already very good/athletic in the first place, because they know how to hide it and are more invested in making good use out of that boost. The question is just, how many high gm/ top 500 players are actually soft cheating backed by decent masters lvl gameplay. Could be quite a few.

[@ScorelessPine]

@@Real_MisterSir Same thing happens with speedruns often too. The most common devils advocate argument when someone is accused is "why would they cheat when they have legitimate runs at the highest level anyway?" Take that online run of the Metal Gear Rising Revengeance DLC during GDQ for example. The guy just had a top-20 full game run and the DLC run incentive was met to play after the run was over, and then he loads up a pre-recorded video of the DLC run as if he was going to try and pass off a clear TAS world record as his own run during a marathon.

[@Mr___f]

Peak AI would just be Widow/Ashe/hanzo jackal snipers picking off softies while the Orisa/Rein duo hold W with brig/bap as support. Unless you are talking about fair AI lol

[@chrisperry2754]

@@Real_MisterSir major league baseball had a list of 300 players in early 2000s who had failed drug tests in past few years before there were well regulated and languaged rules. Only 10-15% of that list were star players. PEDS do not increase performance they increase recovery. The comparison of a software that works to perfection essentially and athletes doping doesn't work at all.

[@hiyori6075]

@@Real_MisterSir i can tell u its atleast 50% of t500 if not more bc if youre in certain circles and high elo u get to know a lot of people but since idk every single player i’ll leave it at 50 lol

[@phantomcomposer]

I’m glad he explained the name change cause I was like “wtf is happening?”😂

[@Maxarcc]

The only thing I can think about are the mental gymnastics needed to cheat your way to a rank you don't belong in, and then feeling entitled to flame your team mates that got there legitimately. It goes so far beyond reason that I think I can make a reasonable guess about what kind of person this guy is outside of the game.

[@timetothrowpogchamp5188]

This guy needs cheats so bad he might miss a step while getting out of the basement and fall back in there

[@revan5293]

I hope we get a better anti-cheat system

[@gats9593]

With OW2 being f2p they better have a better anti cheat. Or its going to be a shit-fest.

[@Lissa2355]

When Destiny2 got a better anti-cheat, there were so many people complaining that (I kid you not) "they were only using hacks to get better at the game" and that anti-cheats were stopping their growth... I loved every second of it

[@masift1494]

@@Lissa2355 Using hacks to get better at the game? Dude wtf is wrong with people lol, talk about Copium. Sounds super satisfying, glad to hear they got it under control over at Destiny 2.

[@kalebfletcher2111]

@@gats9593 the anti cheat is having phone verification. most games can detect if you use a phone number app and wont let you use that number either. if they wanna cheat, they have to buy a $50 burner phone every time they want to get a new account

[@revan5293]

@@Lissa2355 lol I remember that.

[@hawkstony1998]

got literally shat on by stryder and pummy. so safisfying to watch when they destroy this kid.

[@shizumeru_]

There's probably more cheaters now because OW1 is going offline in a few weeks. How bad is a permanent ban when you can just create a new account in 3 weeks for OW2

[@just4justincase]

Mm doesn’t really completely add up tho, cuz that would be sacrificing all the content and skins you’ve added from OW1 that would be carried over. Not that that’s what cheaters care about though, all they really care about it the “gratification” of not losing.

[@Deevoo]

That shot on Baptiste in round 3 was WILD, and the tracer he used his spider senses for to detect exactly where she was..

[@nemebliss]

Is it just me or is there a significant increase of cheaters these days? It's like everyone and their mother is cheating right now 😒

[@heman1320]

Idk. I wish I could tell the difference between a Smurf or cheater in Gold. I hope blizzard fixes it now that they'll have a better revenue stream.

[@VimGamingProductions]

Overwatch 1 going offline in a number of weeks to make way for ow2. It makes sense people are going to be cheating without repercussions because even if you get caught and banned in these coming weeks, you can just create a new account *for free* in ow2.

[@zemoapologist32]

It's pissing me off fr lol I'm so over the cheaters and smurfs

[@daorientalgamer6610]

@@VimGamingProductions you need to link a phone number, and if they get banned they can't make another account with that number

[@AppOshii]

Its probably because we’re close to OW2

[@crunchyvelveeta907]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what "I deserve to be higher rank my teammates are just bad" looks like

[@QuiteLunacy]

The best cheaters are Masters and above rank in skill. They just leave it barely cranked and it is genuinely difficult to tell anything is wrong. Wouldn't surprise me if there are people out there that have been cheating for over a year and nobody has any idea at all.

[@CyVinci]

Yep. The only cheaters that get highlighted are the ones that make it blatantly obvious

[@DJTuna64]

This person is obviously a god gamer that is just playing through a really long earthquake

[@Samochan]

I like the part where he panics and rages and just starts shooting at everything that moves and tunnel visions on getting out as many bullets as possible, but not actually focusing on anything enough to kill them lol. That's low tier mentality.

[@zeromortalplan3502]

I once played a normal game with a widow who had a 97% accuracy card at the end of the game lmao

[@Sickkarma]

same man was on blizz world

[@karamei]

Maybe he hit his first shot and then said "nah, that's it for me, fam" LOL jk but imagine edit: also that sounds like hell

[@sowesowe30]

i looked at the other team and realized all the other names i recognized and starting laughing, cheating with that many ppl who either streams or records is asking for a ban lol

[@JohanReichert]

"How do you cheat and suck" There is no reason to cheat if you don't suck You almost never see a cheater that plays good

[@I_am_a_cat_]

And when you do, you dont know theyre cheating because theyre actually smart

[@dogf421]

imagine cheating and trying as hard as you can and then someone says "are you throwing?" that would be so absolutely ego shattering

[@SisiV09]

he must be scared he'll get caught cheating so he doesn't try to shoot their heads

[@TikkaQrow]

Back when i was really trying to main Sombra, I'd report quite a few random hanzo/widow headshots while cloaked. For a couple years, Sombra was great at catching cheaters. For awhile I'd get the 'thank you for reporting' popup once a week every time I logged in. One week nothing, normal games, came across a good widow, had the pre-order skin, not great, missed plenty. Old high level account. Had okay positioning, was doing 'just' good enough to keep my team from winning. I was fed up getting randomly popped as Symm, so went to Sombra. Cloaked, ran thru a team fight, just off to the side, a flank. Widow peaked a corner and shot me. That one slip. It's all it took. Only game that month I reported. 3 days later got the little pop up from Blizz 'Thank you for reporting' Smiled for days some account with 3k hours got banned XD The Sombra thing kinda tapered off I'd like to say 6 months ago? Coders for more popular cheats probably blacklisted bots from looking at Sombra Took a couple of weeks, but I'm starting to see some cheaters in OW2 in QP. Once in ranked. New accounts, VERY blatantly obvious. Likely testing software settings for longevity before selling.

[@TheDoctor1715]

WAIT I was chilling with my sister watching this from Cyx's POV that's hilarious. I don't tune into the streams very often but when I saw my sister watching Cyx and you guys on Gibby I had to watch lmao

[@Melissa-rv1fl]

honestly I'm dreadful and I know it but watching your video spectating Cassidy made my Cassidy instead of being the bottom 99% to the bottom 95% so thank you!

[@Starrk284]

bottom 99% doesnt mean ur bad, bottom 1% is being bad

[@mrartistimo1530]

@@Starrk284 Dude we know what they meant. And they’re improving loads so I’m happy for em

[@mrartistimo1530]

@@spimbles They began the original comments with honestly, and maintained a lighthearted but honest tone throughout to my judgement. I took them at their word, if they’re joking then no harm is done. And I’m happy for them because they’re getting better. Seeing others improve makes me happy. Hope that answers your comment.

[@thelegend3077]

Hopefully for ow2 they create a system where overwatch workers can visit servers upon request of multiple players and spectate to see things that the game can't detect

[@phwn]

Kind of like csgos overewatch lol

[@grimskull94]

It's like they forget there's a replay mode to see this 😂

[@soulslayerz]

This guy while cheating makes my Ashe look god like, and I've got a lot to learn

[@justinr291]

"The hero half plays itself." As someone with 250ish hours on Hanzo this hurt me, Flats. This hurt me.

[@unclesam3245]

Its kinda true though. Im all for increasing his speed, getting randomly headshot 4 minutes after hanzo shoots is extremely stupid and its not fun to do either.

[@justinr291]

@@unclesam3245 Oh yeah, I miss his old proj. speed. Nothing pisses me off more than a sniper duel with a widow that we both should of hit but because she's hitscan she can just shoot me and then side step my arrow before it even gets there and I hate getting the 'oh' shots. I like it when I hit my shots directly not have some poor Anna walk into it when it's meant for the person behind her.

[@lydianlights]

I meaaaaaaan is he wrong though?

[@Pieman523]

This video is a treasure. So guy out there is paying to be this bad lol.

[@KaigaKarasuma]

Using cheats, but they have the awareness and game sense of a brick.

[@tomKATT92]

He's not cheating, he's just experiencing BEEF MODE!

[@sagechaffee1068]

God, the double shake would make me motion sick.

[@shirowuzhere9057]

Rewatching this i totally forgot ow1 existed for a quick minute and literally was baffled when you said that you and emongg were both tank 😭😭 was blasted to the past

[@abursh]

What a funny coincidence. I happened to watch the microflats video right before this one. What a perfect little story arc :D

[@fade_tnt1642]

When he said cheaters usually shoot out of spawn to lower accuracy I realized I do the same thing randomly.

[@Wolfen5207]

Yeah, while it's true for cheaters, there are plenty of other people that do the same thing. Cyx who was in this game would be a prime example of a top 500 player that does the same thing. If you watch any of his streams or videos, in the walk from spawn, he shoots, reloads, shoots, reloads. Usually stops doing this once the game has actually started.

[@SephOgreThe3rd]

@@Wolfen5207 As long as the clock has not started shooting does not count towards acc or ability use. Once the clock starts then it will count. that is when cheaters spam.

[@GummyDinosaursify]

I tend to punch the air when i'm running out of spawn. Accidentally punched a cloaked Sombra and killed her, which led to them accusing me of cheating.

[@DemiCape]

@@Wolfen5207 It is to warm up right?

[@Ocyla]

These videos have really helped me understand how much cheating has gone on that I missed. We had a really obvious aimbotting walls person in a game a few days ago, but when I'm Mercy and moving/flying like a crackhead and still getting mirked, at low silver, it makes a lot more sense that they weren't just really good.

[@Im_Gazzy]

when it jiggles like that, it's his aimbot trying to compensate for automatic fire recoil

[@cloudstrifer1116]

Love the FF7 song in the background!

[@snnowmann]

6:57 i just spit out my coffee from laughing

[@tiezeehc]

"Am I seeing what I'm actually seeing" 😂😂😂

[@danielandrade4296]

Pretty much every cheater can't tell that it is OBVIOUS for an average player that they are at least walling. These people must have half brain cells damaged, first because they need to cheat, then because they think they can disguise it.

[@karamei]

This is such a good point. Not only does it show with him shooting at someone FOUR WALLS APART FROM HIM, but also shows that shot on the Tracer... like... no actual player plays in either way or has such inexplicable "awareness". Aim can be attributed to lucky shots or skill (as long as the cheat is played in a not-blatant manner), but walls tell the whole story. It's so good that the replay feature shows silhouettes. Also killcam showing the time leading up to your death.

[@jquikshot]

3:30 wow, i didn't even realize this was OW2 until Flats said there were 2 tanks lol

[@_V.Va_]

"How do you cheat AND suck??" Dude, they cheat BECAUSE they suck.

[@CordateE]

Hey to be fair, that spasm against the ball is exactly how my aim looks 😂

[@maxwellporter9637]

i think he has a key binded to diffrent settings in his chaet menu so he can switch mid game with out standing still or right after he kills somone

[@stitches4714]

First time watching an overwatch cheating analysis video (which is surprising considering how much I like watching videos about speedrun cheaters and cheaters in other games). And when he says the moment about shooting out the gate to lower accuracy. I'm laughing at myself because I do it for fun.

[@griffionow1468]

his aim is shakier than mine and I didn't think it could get any worse

[@tatuvarvemaa5314]

First round their aim is like the hands of an 80 year old grandma with arthritus. Its going mach three trying to make the player aim better than a plat, and its strugling heavily.

[@l0kpcr397]

Cool to see Cyx make a cameo

[@VeZren]

is the background music the theme music from pyrite town in Pokemon XD or am I crazy?

[@freezedriedzombi8242]

That bap shot was all I needed to see

[@MasterObio]

Micro flats w the climb 🙏🏾

[@willvi8008]

I saw OTP and I thought of One True Pairing before one trick pony 😂

[@silserbroetli]

bro really switched to his new gaming chair when he swapped to tracer

[@ImLeime]

I know this is quite late, but I study cheats in multiple games quite a bit and I can say from experience the shaky aim when attacking people is most likely because he's moving his mouse fighting against a soft aimlock on enemies

[@db345t]

Wouldn’t it be funny if I game engine detected cheats and played character voice lines to call it out

[@Raistlin2k]

Ok a littel late but can the spazm of his aimbot be because is still adjustet for hitscan or it can suport projectil? Because his bot looked cranked up the moment he switched to tracer. I can not understand why you play with cheats must be boring like hell.

[@rachelhughes8487]

what do y'all mean when you say they cranked up the cheats? Is there like a gradient to how accurate the aimbot is?

[@GO-sz1nv]

I put a cheater on my avoid list and a day later, they changed their name. I saw them in another game and knew it was him instantly thanks to him being the only person on my avoid list at the time. They weren't cheating on this particular account so it wouldn't get banned, but they had recently had their main banned for cheating in custom games LOL

[@kaijuu_tho]

I don't think the cheats work very well on Hanzo lmao it looked like me when I'm nervous and my hand shakes and I miss every shot. I personally consider myself terrible at DPS, I am absolutely dogshit at DPS, and that first round honestly could have been my own playing - doing absolutely nothing impactful and having no real idea what to do. As soon as they got on characters with bullets, though, boom. Instant aim. Instantly hitting shots.

[@BeatsByNewfaces]

maybe play on lower sensitivity if your sensitivity is high.

[@masift1494]

Yup. There's a big stereotype/stigma that hanzo players all cheat, and when they start to lose, they swap hitscan and start rolling. It's honestly true most of the time. It's because the cheats help their already terrible aim when they play hanzo, which makes it much easier to hide. unless you're like the player in this video who just blatantly wall hacks, then it doesn't matter so much.

[@jeremypcleung]

im almost getting motion sickness from that twitchy aim

[@desox123]

I doubt you twitch that much even being nervous nobody should be twitching that much dude looked like he was having a stroke

[@thegoldencrowbar6439]

I played Hanzo for the first time in like 4 years because I was grinding credits in flex and this was my only DPS game I'm baffled by how bad these cheats are

[@nerdobird7701]

Real men cheat with Junkrat.

[@Tangrowth_Fan]

Watch me aimbot my trap placements 😎

[@topv_xxviii2465]

"Crying for Name" 😂

[@lizhicks5690]

Is that opening background music from Pokemon colosseum?

[@gamefan5050]

that tracer clip made the cheats like completely blatant as shit

[@FenekkuKitsune]

The shaking might be caused by fights with the aim bot. Aimbots do one of two things. They either send different packets to the server to emulate correct hits (aggressive), or they hijack the camera controls on the client (non-aggressive). The latter can cause fights between the player and aimbot, however. “Good” aimbots will mitigate this (smoothing), cheap ones will not (causing the hilarious shake) Speaking as someone who has used scripts to control my camera (NOT cheating, this was a Minecraft thing for builds), I know what fighting the aimbot looks like (I forgot I had it on at one point and jibbed my screen out trying to fight it)

[@EL-BAB]

everyone talking about the cheats im thinking about that anime training arc that microflats from spectating bronze went through

[@EmoTheElephant]

it's funny that they complain in chat about one tricks but then don't even bother trying to go cass when they're having their ass handed to them by tracer and ball

[@jamarcusbonquaviustoiletro8520]

seems to me like hes holding back to a degree to avoid suspicion

[@idontknowaname255]

YOOOO HYPE FOR OW2

[@dlunar1551]

My first thought was “How do you aim when ur screen is that shaky?”

[@SgtDahaka]

Cheaters identify torb turrets as their nemesis since both of them are using aimbots.

[@Sleepie_bee]

Yo i think thats pummy from trick room (contenders) on the enemy team playing tracer- i couldnt be sure tho :O

[@zilvoxidgod]

It's amazing how bad he is for having cheats. He has no idea where to be.

[@fatburp9929]

I think that we missed the point here. MICROFLATTS IS GOD.

[@triplet5375]

I had a cheater in a game, thankfully only qp, but the widow straight up killed the team as the round started. We all waited and I went widow to counter, idk how but I managed to kill them so many times and we won, it was awesome

[@taqukuk345]

I believe I encountered a cheater while playing in FFA, a Reaper was having quite a few rapid instant turns and snaps. I first noticed when they had PotG and watched to replay for further investigation. I may have to turn off Cross-play (playing on console) if I encounter more possible cheaters. If someone is GENUINELY good, fine I'll admit to that. Cheats? Nah, won't tolerate.

[@majones117]

Played against my first cheater yesterday. Jesus was it awful

[@LyrikalMaestro]

One mighty fine wallhacks for cheaters to be suckered into getting, like how many times he got dumpstered? 😂

[@Texasracingfan713]

tf was that Bap headshot😭

[@joshuaholtgrieve4982]

I'm just here to shout out the Pokemon Colosseum track in the background :D

[@armonhill3429]

Ball is a huge counter to cheaters

[@JelliedGrapes]

The types of players I get in my OW2 lobbies be like:

[@jahnnygames]

nah bro the gaming chair just built different

[@joshuaosborne8349]

Ngl love the return of micro flats in that short bit in the first half of the vid, just shows that getting abused helps you improve 😂 good job man of the new rank and brain

[@masift1494]

Yeah facts. Coddling someone who's bad and telling them "no it's ok just do this a little better" sometimes shattering someone's ego and bringing them back down to earth and telling them they suck at something is ultimately the best way for them to improve. Gotta say I am super proud of Micro Flats though. That's incredible, they went from like bronze/silver to plat

[@Anton-kj2rf]

@@masift1494 Depends on many things but yea it works with delusionnal people with humongus ego issues

[@DeadDrunk1]

Cheats dont work for projectile heroes right? Like if you use junk or pharah, yeah your xhair will be snapping and whatnot but the proj wont hit? cause theres a delay? or you have to lead

[@Anton-kj2rf]

Some cheats actually lock at the good pre aiming distance. But it's kinda inefficient if the target just strafes around bcs projectiles aren't homing missiles

[@dadiyor8231]

15:01 he almost shot his ball😂

[@mjbrownii]

11:26 best part by far

[@SparkyInnovation]

Dude his widow gun was still showing while zoomed hmm.. 🤔

[@lukaslambs5780]

Aimbotting on projectile heroes makes it harder to get spotted but also wayyyyyy less effective.

[@KittyThaliaX23]

do you think he tries to not get the final blow so the enemy team cant spectate him very often?

[@sunlizard9593]

The writers barely disguised hacks

[@karatikid1234]

people tryna play devil's avocado even after seeing the vid saying "of course he is hitting shots its gm"

[@colesunwood1656]

Did you get a haircut flats? If so it looks splendid

[@MandrakeGuy]

really brought those dollar tree hacks to top 500 💀

[@Nurhaal]

This is pretty much what most people on Quick Play look like. I'm not even joking. That shake effect is one of the features of the more mainstream applications and I've seen Reinharts use it, Sigma's, Genjis, even Moira's. It's ALL over Quick Play.