I Spectated A CHEATING Widowmaker That Said It Was A "Skill Diff" in Overwatch 2

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[@jeremypcleung]

trying to line up a shot for 30 seconds then headshotting themselves off a deflect is a new level of cheater brain

[@zafraz1077]

Ikr I'm so bad so ill cheat to "even the odds" > never improves abit > wonders why they're bad when theyre smart enough to cheat > raging hacker > ??? bamboozled face

[@Broketheair]

I can't prove it but I'm convinced they were waiting for their cheats to fire for them and the afks wasn't them turning it on, but either rebooting it because of a bug or fixing settings.

[@trivencz1069]

i guess she doesn´t cheat in that point :D

[@eclipsesgames4222]

As someone who use to cheat in csgo (I'm not bragging was a dark time) the most likely reason they weren't firing was due to the fact aimbots have a hard time when set lower when it comes to snipertype fire-rates (i.e awp, widow) so what I think is happening is either he has it set too low and he's clicking but the aim bot isn't allowing it due to not being set high enough or it's a cheap aimbot that has a really hard time with a threshold type.

[@TisMinetta]

Note to everyone, if you suspect someone is cheating and you’re dps just go sombra and cloak. Most cheaters are stupid and will shoot you hence proof to your report

[@aland7234]

Then go bastion if they're a widow cheater Widow can't headshot sentry bastion unless the bastion turns his back

[@TisMinetta]

@@aland7234 I’m not saying to counter cause you can only really win a Cheater battle if you’re going tank up against them. But I’m saying to prove whether they’re a cheater or not is use sombra cause that’ll bring out ESP hacks and if they lock on that’ll bring out aim bot

[@blueblue5486]

@@TisMinetta go sombra for easy proof, go bastion if your tank wont try to deal with them or needs help

[@rainoftime37]

I use the hacker to defeat the hacker 😌

[@Skelephone]

I once got called a cheater in mystery heroes for ulting a cloaked sombra as Cassidy, even though we had a widow ult going off at the same time

[@scarlet-reaper]

"what are they waiting for" "I'm waiting for my own demise through my own flaws"-widow

[@creative1800]

He was afk because he switched his mousepad for the widow booty mousepad

[@OrigamiAhsoka]

I absolutely hate the way I know which one you’re talking about

[@creative1800]

@@OrigamiAhsoka 🤣

[@arcadeinvader8086]

culture diff

[@Jaybe112]

I was trying to find better settings I was having issues that's why it didn't shoot 76

[@Alasor31]

he needed that wrist support

[@kamrynemerson1821]

I know we all know headshotting an invisible sombra is the clear sign of a cheater but I'd like to issue a public apology to the sombra I genuinely accidentally headshot out of invis in the most perfectly awful timing ever the other day

[@OrigamiAhsoka]

💀💀💀 had that happen to me a few times as sombra and I always watch the replay and just see the most unlucky shot

[@exalted7906]

@@OrigamiAhsoka or lucky shot i guess😂

[@CopShowGuy]

@@OrigamiAhsoka Sometimes you just walk in front of someone as they're shooting someone else.

[@darthganon944]

I did this once too as a hanzo yesterday. The sombra, bless them, wasn't being annoying, and so I felt bad (but also was super hyped) that I just happened to time and aim at the perfect point.

[@sylvrwolflol]

I killed a Sombra in invis with a zen volley once and there wasn't even a fight going on. I was just spamming lanes while in position waiting for the retake and there happened to be a very unlucky Mexican rounding the corner. Shocked the hell out of both of us and I immediately apologized in match chat lol

[@sadi_yamzz09]

I have yet to find a cheater who doesn't move like artificial intelligence Also the constant meleeing in the beginning reminded me of that cass cheater that was A D strafing in front of the spawn room

[@realms4219]

They use melee or spray to toggle the hacks lol. Spotted a kiriko like that. Like clockwork turns up the aim to t500 after very clearly spraying when things got hard

[@Jaybe112]

bro I was testing hacks so It was kinda hard im fixing settings while playing

[@isooas]

@@Jaybe112why do you have 10 comments saying the same thing?

[@isooas]

@@Jaybe112your parents never gave u attention so your going online trying to get some of it arent you?

[@sadi_yamzz09]

@@realms4219 When you explain it like that it makes a lot of sense. I rlly have no idea how cheats work so to me it looks like theyre AFKing and moving like AI

[@ducky350]

Skill diff losing its meaning is the same way c9 lost its meaning. I stg half the player base does not know what an actual c9 is

[@ashonline77]

yeah people be saying c9 when the entire team is dead lol. Also Skill diff/role diff nowadays is most of the time people just saying it to feel better about themselves after getting rolled by someone of the same role in the enemy team even though they were the ones that was the worse of the two.

[@dyamonde9555]

also a lot of the casters dont know. i always get massively annoyed when i watch contenders or owl and the casters say it was a c9 when it very clearly wasnt

[@dyamonde9555]

@@slinky6415 no, that would be a backcap. C9 is when YOU control the point you're trying to capture, and then run off chasing kills, letting the overtime wick burn down. i guess we could argue about the detail with the backcap, but the main things are that YOU control the point, and you leave it to go chase kills, in an UNFORCED Error.

[@ccricers]

@@ashonline77 Or when someone asks for advice on how to improve, replying with "skill issue" is the most super captain obvious response. No shit it's a skill issue, that's the _whole_ reason they asked for advice because they're looking to close the gap in skill.

[@jawaela]

@@ccricersonce I complaines about a smurf and a teammate says ”looks like a skill issue” NO. FUCKING.SHIT.

[@waitwhat238]

We all saw a Bronze player better than this guy yesterday

[@ajpardy7620]

The self proclaimed “widow king” is def way better than this cheater 😂 insane

[@wahyusetiyanto19]

@@ajpardy7620 i agree, that widow is better than this widow and they have insane aim without cheats

[@theofficialhankhill3280]

​@@ajpardy7620it wasn't "widow king" it was "bronze king" and it was obviously a joke

[@beeboo7485]

@@theofficialhankhill3280it’s not that serious

[@Dissarae2469]

@@theofficialhankhill3280it was widow king tho but yeah it was a joke

[@charlieisd3ad]

my guess is that they forgot to put the trigger bot on so just stared at them trying to figure out how it works until they went back to spawn and turned it on

[@possumxl]

I had a enemy tank tell me “Guess I’m Just Better” to which I replied “this is a placement game for me so yea sure.” Neat guy, you’re better than someone who got the game a month ago. All hail the king of Silver 4.

[@brennentodd5657]

😭

[@progowl3086]

The widow is right is was a skill diff... that's why they needed cheats.

[@Jaybe112]

I’m a legit master tank player messing around with hacks in qp but go off

[@defaultdan7923]

⁠@@Jaybe112”master *tank* player” you explained it yourself way better than i could have lol

[@Jaybe112]

@@defaultdan7923 I am but okay bro

[@Jaybe112]

games shit and dead I wanted to try hacks

[@Micromind-69]

@@Jaybe112 There's no way you're a masters tank. With that situational awareness you're like stone 5 at best lmao

[@Ashen_squad]

As a Genji main, it is honestly insane how many Widows forget about deflect. I had a match where i saw one lining up a shot outside our spawn, and started lining up for a deflect right away. You'd think seeing a Genji standing still in front of the spawn doors and looking straight at you would cause the Widow to not shoot me, but boy you would be wrong. She wasted no time pulling the trigger and getting a headshot, except i don't think she got the right target

[@HopeIsADrug11037]

As a widow player, I didn't know deflect existed until yesterday... I've been playing this game for like 3 months now.

[@paytonyoder1260]

11:40 One thing that I would find really interesting is if callout pings could be shown in replay. It would remove any questions because you have an idea of the information the player is working with.

[@GothixMoth_TTV]

13:50 They are shown٫ I'm pretty sure the Mercy made this ping due to the Widow not looking in the Rein's direction when the ping popped up

[@buildafineshrine]

"What are they waiting for?" Genji's deflect apparently 🤣🤣

[@TNTerrific]

Can I just say how much I appreciate Flats using Pyrite Town's Theme from Pokémon Colloseum for every hacker video? Such a perfect sleazy guy getting sussed out by a detective type song. Love it.

[@JordyVsTheWorId]

Reaction time of a rock

[@Jaybe112]

Blud I couldn’t shoot because the hacks were messed up I had it binded to the wrong key

[@mentarium]

@@Jaybe112 you're trash. stop trying to defend yourself. you're not good at the game

[@morelstrike]

​@@Jaybe112 So you are so bad even hacks can't help you.

[@iikari]

@@Jaybe112now THAT’S a true skill diff. how the turns have tabled

[@beyhydration2893]

People cheat in qp all the time....the worst egos of all time

[@masift1494]

Clowns gotta do something in their free time when the circus isn't running

[@Jaybe112]

Testing the hacks

[@Kotobaza69]

I’m tired of it. Why no one talking about it? Every time I sus cheater and call it out I hear “skill issues”!!! EVERY TIME!!! I can’t play this game anymore

[@rachelhughes8487]

QP is the common place to test out cheats

[@Jaybe112]

@@rachelhughes8487 yeah it is im not taking any sr I wanted to try it for fun

[@vianne6507]

Wow, what a small world, I've played against that widow, and Mercy before

[@Jaybe112]

lol well I was testing the hacks

[@Hulkindex]

​@@Jaybe112 loser

[@missdoctor6221]

They aren't a cheater, they're an artist lol

[@Pam234]

Art requires skilll though.

[@smegna7994]

@@Pam234 not anymore unfortunately

[@kailler9217]

@@smegna7994 nah it still requires skill.

[@natedavis2944]

@@kailler9217the banana taped to a wall for millions of dollars disagrees

[@kailler9217]

@@natedavis2944 modern art and actual art are different things. Not to mention, the banana on a wall thing was done by someone who has a reputation and history, they paid for the name and the infamy, not for the 'art' itself. Which, if you think about it, is as provocative as any other art piece, giving an insight onto the absurdity of how reputation affects worth.

[@FireKing1230]

They not a cheater they used code flats

[@patrickstar1164]

Why is there always people in the chat who actively defend cheaters? Can someone explain?

[@doubledare7736]

They’re joking mostly

[@ashonline77]

99% of them are just being sarcastic because its blatant but there are always one or two people who actually think some people arent cheating as well.

[@everlynevins]

Those people are clearly bronze players. @@ashonline77

[@TheLastEgg08]

Their mother dropped them more than once when they were a baby, explains the sheer intelligence this widow is capable of, as smart as a pebble.

[@Jamie_241]

hey! even a pebble can go far in life :P

[@jewels3846]

​@@Jamie_241I agree. Pebbles dont deserve to be compared to this widow 😂

[@vonreign5982]

They aren't a cheater, they just had a hunch

[@Jaybe112]

I actually was testing hacks and had bad settings so

[@vonreign5982]

@@Jaybe112 ...sir wat

[@navviil3ra]

@@Jaybe112what

[@DarcleChorf]

8:12 Brodie had a classic Benoit Blanc hutch 💀

[@someone_2129]

They just had a good headset, they could hear the sombra footsteps

[@ianvoltaire7099]

Stfu he's walling

[@harryf9885]

Shooting an invisible Sombra once could be insane luck (only really if you are close enough to hear them, which he wasn’t), but twice? In the same game? Do you think this guy even knows that Sombra can go invisible? Because shooting invis Sombra twice in a quickplay game seems like a great way to get banned before u even get to use your cheats to rank up out of bronze.

[@necrow2528]

man in the beginning was acting like hes salt 5 aint no way

[@sadi_yamzz09]

SALT 5??!! PLEASEEEE😂😂😂

[@ashonline77]

100% they have a trigger bot and is probably trying it out and forgot to turn it on properly (just had walls on). that's why they are literally just staring at enemies thinking its gonna auto shoot but instead they are just drawing pictures around them. Thats also why the shots aren't snapping to head and look more natural while the only unnatural thing is that they somehow gained pro reaction times to click the fire button.

[@sadi_yamzz09]

@@ashonline77 that makes a lot of sense lmao.

[@necrow2528]

@@ashonline77 I kinda thought It might be trigger as well as the other usuals cuz he kept looking at peps for way too long that or their a dumbass

[@PINKITYLESBIAN]

Cardboard 5

[@ralphforbes5807]

I agree with that statement of skill dif or "insert character" dif, I never really thought it had a good meaning to begin with but like the amount it's used is ridiculous 😂 also supports didn't pocket them the entire time lol

[@sullyvain]

Dude I just started watching these, as a player from Beta 1 it hurts to see these but at the same time, they are hilarious.

[@kgfretrogaming1460]

I don’t even play widow, but I know for a fact that they missed half the shots they could’ve took

[@minh9625]

i love how he just shot everytime sombra invisible like no one know he's hacking so he need to show them he's hacking

[@Choomba-]

His laugh gets me ever time the wheeze is beautiful favorite ow KZbinr since ow 1 I loved the bronze spectator vids

[@Kaiten92]

8:49 that slo-mo looking THICC BOI

[@Taipan_3175]

This Widowmaker player's muscle memory is a complete mess. He's become so afraid of missing that he panics whenever he gets his crosshair near an enemy's head.

[@BabyMandingo]

When they tracked ana through the wall at the end of second. The crosshair perfectly tracked her nade as she threw it!

[@Dan-mo7fl]

Skill Diff has eroded gaming discourse

[@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty]

“What are they waiting for?” *Deflect Headshot* I think that’s what they were waiting on.

[@TisMinetta]

The thumbnail is giving Borderlands Intro fight scene vibes

[@butler3251]

wow, the fact that this guy being a cheater didn't piss me off as much as when he didn't shoot when he could is crazy 😂

[@Neck.]

Nah cause when the widow didn’t shoot I said “What are you waiting for man?” Flats said “What are you waiting for?” RIGHT after I said that

[@nogghan4637]

7:24 hes just waiting for Hagrad to push through the brick wall into diagon alley

[@BalefireBombshell]

3:22 Triggerbot. Basically an auto-clicker, but uses chams of some sort as a pixel detector. They're trying to get it to go off by waving the mouse around the head but it just is refusing to fire for one reason or another (speed for the triggerbot to recognize the color of the pixel and thusly send the fire command too slow, likely). t. Team Fortress 2 player.

[@JaneDark94]

I love the Pokemon Colusseum music

[@Sindoku]

The artwork was the cheater trying to get the trigger bot to trigger. My 15 year old nephew used cheat and he did the same thing with his bot, so I recognized that immediately, lol.

[@Bacon676]

the best part: they will never get banned.

[@TentomushiHH]

1:12 skill diffed 😂

[@eclipsesgames4222]

As someone who use to cheat in csgo (I'm not bragging was a dark time) the most likely reason they weren't firing was due to the fact aimbots have a hard time when set lower when it comes to snipertype fire-rates (i.e awp, widow) so what I think is happening is either he has it set too low and he's clicking but the aim bot isn't allowing it due to not being set high enough or it's a cheap aimbot that has a really hard time with a threshold type.

[@heill232]

0:38 that's me and "gg"

[@lucafrix66]

It's called anticipation. Yes, I always anticipate someone to morph through a brick wall from spawn while I have 2 targets in the open..... Some people lol.

[@RisingPhoenixLily]

Widow diff. 😂 Had to be said after the 'skill diff'.

[@Alasor31]

I wonder if he didn't start the cheats until he ~almost~ has ult, just so he could have plausible deniability.

[@MajikAce]

Sometimes in my qp matches I cannot tell the diff between a super smurf or cheater. Sometimes a person will start popping off and hit every shot and I am like... man how did you know I was there when I was crouch walking..... you 180 quick scoped?! I feel like either they are way better than me like masters verses my low plat or they are cheating. It is crazy..

[@TeKnoVKNG23]

Easiest thing to do is have someone go Sombra, cheaters can't help themselves and even in ranked will take the shots on the invis character and expose themselves. Easy report, but then of course Blizzard doesn't do anything about it.

[@sambauer7138]

"I don't do those anymore" lmaooo that got me

[@someGuy-kl7cb]

it looks like at the beginning rather then snapping onto targets it "follows" their movements, so im guessing he's waiting for them to stop moving so he can get shots in...which doesn't really work anywhere besides like...bronze. lol.

[@harryf9885]

1:10 now THAT is a skill issue

[@endrtrn]

All these cheating videos beg the question. If i spam life grip the cheater on my team or life grip him into bad situations, will i get banned for game play sabotage

[@ajpardy7620]

No, both teams will endorse you Edit: hopefully anyway lol

[@ivisitthezoo]

I wish the chat was something you could see while in playbacks, because I am messy I wanna see the drama 🤣

[@vincentlobregt5354]

I feel like the newest nonsense thing is to say X hero diff, while the other team does not even have that hero, that is even dumber

[@narancia2815]

thats just mean he carried his whole team

[@mentarium]

it's supposed to be the other way around, like if the team with moira loses you say "moira diff". like claiming the reason the team lost was because of that character/player.

[@johnmoysoglou4715]

Flats is right know when you say something like gg or wp you do not mean it you just told that automatically in the chat. I am at the 40 first seconds of the vid and I already commented bruh

[@chefboyardeeznuts8465]

Cheaters are insecure.

[@troybarrow8810]

Honestly it looked like they had some weird teammate tracking setting on or something. Cause their mercy threw off their aim on the enemy ana. Thats how it feels on console when a teammate walks infront of you when you're a support and you run 0 aim assist ease in. It just pulls your crosshair to follow your teammate for a second

[@BattleAngelTew]

That pre- fire could have been bc of a call out

[@Sp1lt_S4lt]

BRUH I JUST HAD THIS SAME WIDOW IN MY MATCH TODAY!!!

[@jordonmartin8034]

9:40 "why is he using walls when he already has walls?" a question as old as overwatch itself. It is very simple. *It provides your teammates with walls as well.*

[@DOG-zc4vh]

Mercy's aim with slow bullet more accurate than cheater's aim with a fucking rifle

[@Matt_Lemon]

"what are they waiting for" Waiting for the trigegr bot to work first few minutes^^ taht why they circled aroudn the head

[@BiggieCheeseJr.]

As someone who started playing widow seriously a few days ago, even I can line up shots better and spend less time doing it, even if i don't headshot

[@voiddwelling7285]

What's more annoying is that if they actually pulled the fucking trigger they would have gotten kills but like they had no confidence to shoot they needed to crank up the cheats before actually shooting.

[@hoodsquigga1168]

Today I learned I can grapple the ground as Widowmaker

[@MichyXD]

They just have the spider sense activated 😔

[@Malenia128]

I was going against a cheater once.. We slammed em with Rien and Sombra lol

[@PeachyAndYogi]

You missed ''mad because bad'' lol. This was totally ridiculous to watch x_x I feel bad for the other team.

[@aliciamury1468]

2 big questions. Why didnt the sombra tbag her. And how do I keep myself sane and not quiting this game when I encounter shit like this?

[@AnimeOtaku56.]

The amount of times supps hard pocket these cheaters in these vods is actually sad. Funnily enough it’s always a mercy.

[@TeKnoVKNG23]

I always report the cheater's pocket as well, but half the time Blizzard doesn't do anything about it.

[@rsin314159]

Definitely a skill diff... and for the low price of just $29.99 you too can buy skills like this! Kappa

[@sournote8610]

No FOR REAL people just be throwing things around like "skill issue" or "x diff". Literally just had a match where both teams were doing well, but were evenly matched. Each fight was a struggle but it was such a fun game. We lost, but BARELY and the first thing our DPS says is "tank diff" (even though both tanks had roughly the same stats). Like no? They just managed to pull together at the last moment. There was no "diff" it's just something that happens sometimes.

[@techyboi5615]

2:10 they look the exact same apart from hair color lol

[@reginaldbutcha4844]

Probably the worst cheater I've seen on here in terms of base skill before they flip the hack switch

[@aeloh6921]

I feel like the last 2 weeks have been cheater city for some reason. Even encountered a Junkrat with the projectile prediction cheat and walls in comp recently 😢 I've been getting really paranoid about cheating as a result and have called out a lot of people who I suspected lately. I'm not the only one who's getting paranoid though as I've had people accuse _me_ of cheating 3 times this week 😂 The worst part is I'm often afk in spawn cos I'm having a smoke and halfway through the last game where I was accused I was afk in spawn right before I popped off with a bunch of headshots because I was contemplating switching hero in the spawn room 😂

[@HexxinLovely]

Oh no. I’m the mercy in this replay (Apollo) and I had no idea this person was cheating. If it was said in chat I didn’t see it. If I would have known I would have let his ass rot on high ground instead of rezing him. I’ve been watching flats since 2020 and I’ve always wanted to see myself in one of his videos, but not like this. Not helping a cheater! 😫

[@brix7573]

my fav part time KZbinr uploaded pog! :)

[@tizlexicmusic7057]

You forgot "No Maidens" and "L+ratio"

[@user-pm6kt4jv3p]

12:31 When you have cheats but ur still crap at the game

[@FrostReach66]

Always the cheaters with the biggest egos

[@alexpimentel8884]

Is this Pokémon coliseum music?

[@stinky-toe15676]

I have a friend who would watch this and say "im not 100% sure this guys cheating" because he thinks accusing someone of cheating means you accuse EVERYONE of cheating.

[@aland7234]

Just play bastion into them! I dont get why people dont counter cheating widow with a character that not only survives non damage boosted headshot but also changes their headshot hitbox into safer spot being their back and get a dr during the sentry form like wha

[@karbonyt5197]

He clearly heard sombra😊

[@lamarhoward722]

Imagine being so trash that you have to hack in Unranked in order to win and STILL struggle.

[@lannandogarcia4391]

Widow went afk to get her new gaming chair

[@trivencz1069]

5:25 i guess "tick issue" 10:13 honestly im typing "team diff" bcs when one team wins obviously they diffed other team :D 10:59 "ME" xD

[@sheepmeds]

not related to the video, but i just played in a match where an echo ulted and i tried to swap off but it said i couldnt, is this new or has this been in the game?

[@IlAlexaIl]

Could u elaborate

[@sheepmeds]

@@IlAlexaIl when echo was in her ult I was unable to swap heroes, sorry for the wording on the original post

[@IlAlexaIl]

@@sheepmeds you mean she ulted as your character and you tried switching heroes but it didnt let you?

[@hexcatt__3772]

I’ve played with this widow before. It was a comp game and she was absolutely awful. She even refused to swap off of widow and we ended up losing. I have no clue if she was cheating or not. She is ended the game with like 8-13

[@cycodragon2412]

What I find absolutely annoying about these cheaters the most is that they are using characters that already have the built in wall hacks and aim bots with Sombra having the op wall hacks but their game sense is so bad they you'd question why the fuck they even playing a video game in the first place.

[@dannyale282]

*Gaming chair diff*

[@darksoulxxx6099]

I’m so bad at widow in the first part that’s literally how my aim is. Hopefully I get better but right now I can only do body shots😭💀

[@Rockandtribe]

The biggest skill diff is he wasnt a good hacker

[@K1NKYN1NJA]

It technically WAS a skill diff. The widow has none so had to buy cheats.

[@smokescreen8365]

They just switched gaming chairs, easy as that

[@Prismode]

I really wish the other tank went Winston or dva and just harassed the widow til they rage quit the match. Nothing is more satisfying than hurting a toxic player’s ego tbh