Flatzoid Claims He Makes No Claims About 24 Hr Sun In Antarctica Then Makes Many Claims

[@Wolfie6020]

He sounds terrified and is clearly in preemptive damage control. The poor guy can’t even say Antarctica properly. If he wasn’t so blatantly dishonest I could pity him.

[@whereswa11y]

They are so good at fabrication that they do not even notice when each other does it

[@2stroke4me]

A lot of flat-earthers are in preemptive damage control, and in panic, lol! Scared to no end the outcome is going to vaporise their little cult and revenue.

[@Wolfie6020]

Remember Flatzoid. This is what putting your money where your mouth is. Flat Earthers should try it more often. They did once that I recall and discovered the Earth rotated at 15 degrees per hour. Interesting.

[@hobbitfeet6017]

Globe prediction: 15 degrees per hour "drift." Flat prediction: No "drift." Result: 15 degrees per hour "drift." watch?v=fjDuCY82zEA&t=96s Globe prediction: 24-hour Sun. Flat prediction: You can't go to Antarctica. No 24-hour Sun. Result: 24-hour Sun. Sorry, flerfs, it's a dead cert. Will they accept the results this time? Only time will tell. 181 13 28 51 DAYS HOURS MINS SEC Will they F...

[@shuggiemcg1]

"Thanks Bob!"

[@shegocrazy]

@@shuggiemcg1 That never gets old.

[@pandora8610]

Flerfs for years: *They* won’t let us go to Antarctica. Flerfs now: There’s no reason for us to go to Antarctica.

[@sphaera2520]

They really have short term memory.

[@JSSTyger]

Flat-Earthers then: Antarctica, sorry its closed Flat-Earthers now: Its only 24 hour daylight but not 24 hour Sun because the Sun can hide behind a mountain ridge.

[@mittelwelle_531_khz]

@@JSSTyger for the same reason since years I argued against "if we could send a flat Earther with a rocket to space he or she would give up that believe in a second". He or she just won't. WE think like globers think. WE think how cool would it be to go to the edge of space. WE need NOT be convinced earth "is a ball". WE are embedded in this believe system (supported by lots of replicable evidence). WE feel well and comfortable in the presence of other globers. If evidence is presented to us why our earth should rather be flat, like "I can't see the curve and I don't feel it move" WE think of other explanations for that observation. THEY think like flers think. THEY think how cool it is to have secret knowledge empowering them over us PLUS a huge silent majority. THEY need NOT be convinced earth is flat. THEY are embedded in a believe system giving many answers in the form of "nobody knows" or "nobody can ever know" or "the Bible/Quran tells us ... and I have faith my holy book speaks truth". THEY feel well and comfortable in the presence of other flers. If evidence is presented to them, like a 24 hour Sun over Antarctica is impossible on a flat Earth ,THEY think of other explanations for that observations. So, from a neutral point of view, WE and THEM aren't actually that different. Think about it and draw your conclusions what might be a good way to approach and potentially "convert" a flat Earth proponent.

[@robbarton7972]

Yep it's called moving the goal posts, an activity that Flerf's are actually good at.

[@thecasualengineer99]

Post! Have you seen goal? Always on the move

[@TheTruthHz]

I'm so sick of liars like this, getting caught out, being shown wrong and then doubling down or back tracking to modify their claims. It's not just the flerfs, Trump, Putin and many others are doing this, with REAL impact.

[@DaveMcKeegan]

24 hour sun isn't testing for gravity etc, it's testing the shape I'm going to start playing Flatzoid with his own logic - 'We could still have a globe with a container around it and electromagnets pulling everything towards the ground'

[@mballer]

I'll add to it. Ants have no problem walking on the bottom of a globe. We are the size of ants in comparison.

[@ReinoGoo]

The shape is caused by gravity etc. A set of solar telescopes at different latitudes can prove the curve and the rotation (and the latitude).

[@DaveMcKeegan]

@@ReinoGoo but we're dealing with flat Earthers ... Baby steps with them 😂

[@John.0z]

@@mballer That would need to be a big ball for us the be the size of even the smallest ant species! But I do appreciate your analogy; it is just as silly as the flerf ones.

[@whereswa11y]

Oh I think it is testing gravity in relation to their balls and if they have dropped yet.

[@Mosesranthemetresinarcseconds]

Flerfs - ‘trust your senses, and do your own research’ Globers - ‘want to come to Antarctica and research whether there is a 24 sun….and witness it with your own eyes’ Flerfs- ‘Taxi!!’

[@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394]

The damage control is at defcon 10 when they start moving the goalpost before they see the evidence.

[@pandora8610]

Yes, but no. Defcon level goes the other way. The lower the number, the greater the threat. But yeah, it's hilarious watching them scramble for excuses. It shows how many of them already know what the result is going to be.

[@Sherwoody]

They stopped moving the goalposts and changed the game to pickleball.

[@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394]

@@pandora8610 Then we'll have to make it defcon -6

[@robbarton7972]

I love how the Flerf's say we are not making any claims but the earth is flat.

[@banu6301]

and then he continues to claim that the sun is reflecting off a dome that he claims exists

[@getahanddown]

Jeran is 100% correct about one thing. With that statement (and if he goes) then he's the only flat earther with balls

[@Frazemac1]

Still can't get my head around the fact that living breathing adults that aren't in a mental institution believer there is a firmament,

[@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394]

I can't believe they remember to breathe often enough to stay alive.

[@lorditsprobingtime6668]

And Antarctica, or gravity and are paranoid about pretty much EVERYTHING!

[@Frazemac1]

@@lorditsprobingtime6668 and NASA , haha poor old NASA imagine if nasa was a person, they be like WT actual f have I done apart from space stuff 😂😝

[@bodan1196]

@@Frazemac1 A lot of aeronautic stuff? (ref: precursor NACA)

[@thegreatshamalamadingdong9788]

Don't forget NASA owns every space program around the world also taking money from everyone around the world.

[@MissionControl-dk]

Kudos to Jeran for actually being honest. And thanks to Flatzoid for associating God and the Bible with flat earth nonsense. Wow that whole kitchen is on fire and Flatzoid is putting out the burning oil with water.

[@hartmutholzgraefe]

So the "Final experimet" will also disprove God? (Flatz logic, not mine)

[@MissionControl-dk]

@@hartmutholzgraefe yup. Really high stakes.

[@sissyfus6181]

@@MissionControl-dk Nice to see you're still around, miss your vids.

[@RobTriskele]

"Flat earth doesn't make any claims" Then continues to claim that the sun reflects off the inside of a dome.

[@hopmajibhohepeajibho7595]

Also claims there is a dome constantly

[@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394]

And he got an A in self-awareness.

[@thearmouredpenguin7148]

Claiming that the earth is flat is in itself a claim.

[@Sherwoody]

He literally has the word Flat in his name. He doesn’t call himself Roundzoid.

[@GeistView]

​@@thearmouredpenguin7148 Yep. Been telling them that for years. I even mess with them and say, "I'm not a Globe Earther, I'm a Flat and Stationary Earth skeptic".

[@mymumbakescakes]

Do we all recall the CLASSIC Dave VS DAVE? When Dave (Dirth) said that daylight does not come from the Sun? Ohh that was so epic. And now Flats is making claims about not making claims that make claims about not making claims.

[@logic.and.reasoning]

Seriously! You are making claims that he made claims he made claims he didn't claimed but claimed. But yet claiming he made claims when claiming such means a claim, does not dismiss the claimed being claimed about by the claiments claims of claims.... ...I'm dead...

[@logic.and.reasoning]

I hereby disclaim the spelling it is claimed I mispelt. Claimedly...

[@mymumbakescakes]

@@logic.and.reasoning so your making claims that you misspelled claimed, about the claims that flatz claimed. And all flerfs claims are just claims. Or at least the claims they make about claims. With no claims to back the claims they make?

[@thearmouredpenguin7148]

@@logic.and.reasoning There may be an opening for you in the Civil Service.

[@logic.and.reasoning]

@@thearmouredpenguin7148 GOLD 🖖🤗

[@JSSTyger]

"My faith is much stronger in God's word than what man says." Man wrote God's word.

[@John.0z]

... and it evolved. The current state of religion shows that it is still evolving, in how it is interpreted if not in the words in the various books.

[@simond.455]

It means what those in control of the narrative need it to mean. 🤔

[@Mosesranthemetresinarcseconds]

So not pseudoscience….just supernatural then!! 😂

[@jimsmith7212]

The Bible is a morality primer for Bronze age tribes men, not a science/physics/astronomy textbook.

[@JSSTyger]

@@jimsmith7212 I just wrote that all flat-Earthers must turn back to the globe. Its now etched in history and is now religion.

[@ReinoGoo]

The final experiment for ordinary people: Follow the instructions for setting up an equatorial mount - and make it work.

[@adiohead]

Flatzoid said he doesn't trust 'man', yet who wrote the fictional bible?

[@andrewjohnston6631]

He says he won’t trust the word of man. Fine. Go to Antarctica and trust what is plainly visible.

[@simond.455]

"Why do I need to go to Antarctica to show something that can only disprove a globe?" - Because so far, every single "proof earth not a globe" has turned out to be complete bollocks? 🤷‍♀ What's so magic about the Antarctica dome that it reflects sunlight 24 hours while the rest of the world experiences some hours of night time? How does the dome know that there are observers in Antarctica and it has to reflect just there? 🤦‍♀

[@eleventhchimp]

Wow!! I hadn’t heard that from Jeranism. I have new respect for him.

[@robguyatt9602]

I still have no respect for him. We now know he was lying in the past. He admitted it to Wolfie long ago.

[@eleventhchimp]

@@robguyatt9602 Well, motivated reasoning is a tricky thing. We’ll see how TFE turns out for him.

[@entangledmindcells9359]

@@eleventhchimp that flat earth gravy train has run its course..Time to bail in style.

[@pencilpauli9442]

Flatearthers: See for yourself Globers: Okay come see for yourself in Antarctica. Flatearthers: We don't need to see for ourselves. Our faith in God's word is all we need. At least Flatzoid has admitted that flat earth has sweet Fanny Adams to do with science and any of their scientific cosplaying. Any flat earthers who genuinely believe that they have a scientific model will need to provide a disclaimer that they are not biblical literalists.

[@GeistView]

Even AIG Ken Ham who accepts a litteral interpretation of the Bible, who built a Ark in Kentucky knows the Earth is not Flat and accepts the Earth is a Globe.

[@RockinRobbins13]

Yet, they won't read the Bible to see that it never claims Earth is flat. They are lying about where their "faith" comes from.

[@RockinRobbins13]

@@GeistView And typically, just about everything Ham espouses in his Answers in Genesis theme park is NOT in the book of Genesis. Its all made up. He is relying on your reluctance to read the book of Genesis so you''ll buy his irrelevant snake oil, just as all successful grifters cash in on the laziness of their vidtims.

[@farmersboy]

"Flat earth doesn't make any claims". You just made one.

[@tjwiets6691]

Flatzoid is staunch on his claim that you can't have pressure without a container for his rejection of "atmo" pressure. No counter argument is permissible to him despite Venus having a similar vertical pressure profile that, like Earth's, decreases exponentially with height as observed by Russian landers. But you know... space stuff's all fake for FE because they've got no better rebuttal than dismissal for it.

[@heiyuall]

Sounds like Jeranjism’s getting ready to abandon a sinking ship.

[@mymumbakescakes]

PS: If the Sun sets in Antarctica during summer, during those days the Experiment is on. I will delete my channel.

[@andrewjohnston6631]

I’m considering making the same declaration. Maybe someone should be keeping a list of channels who do.

[@DavidSmith-vr1nb]

I'm not a content creator so I can't make this commitment, but I would if I could.

[@lidbass]

I’m not a content creator either, but I will happily write a comment apologising on every pro flat earth video that I can find.

[@gowdsake7103]

Good call but I bet no flat earther will follow suit if does not

[@jimsmith7212]

​@@gowdsake7103 Riley did when he lost his eclipse every month wager.

[@lorditsprobingtime6668]

Jeran actually surprised me there. He made it pretty clear he'll be changing his mind after this. Good on him for saying that with conviction. Failzoid, what do we expect from that creature who hides 11 frames, lies like it's a serious sport and I hope to hell they don't take him anyway. One thing worries me, only because "gotta lie to flerf" is that bit of a mountain back, just a bit behind them. From other 24 hour vids it never seems to get high enough not to vanish for an hour or so as it goes past that. I'm really hoping they go up on top of that to set up their cameras. Something that may be priceless to have would be something like, except more comprehensive than a wrap around, USB powered lens heating/warming little wrap thingy. If they do that they could probably run off a USB power bank, also maybe wrapped in with it to keep the batteries in it from becoming useless from the cold. Times spent in cold and snowy climates has taught me that lenses especially will fog up as soon as you get near them but, just a bit of warmth, like keeping it inside your jacket, preferable nothing more than a single layer of material between it and your warmer skin can make a big difference, just not for 24 hours straight so, they'll probably need that AND some high capacity power packs.

[@mballer]

Maybe a call to NASA to get recommendations on equipment. I wonder if some manufacturer would throw in some free equipment for the publicity.

[@mikefochtman7164]

Agree about that mountain. But I think the escorts are going to be having enough on their hands keeping the entourage from dieing without attempting mountain-climbing. Like preventing a flat-earther from trying to write their name in the snow and freezing their manhood off. lol

[@mikefochtman7164]

I don't have any cold-weather photography experience, but my glasses only fog up when I come back in from clearing the drive of snow. I understand it's very dry in Antarctica (technically a desert), so as long as the flerf doesn't breath on the lens???

[@clivedavis6859]

@@mikefochtman7164 Yes, that is the case. No problem with the lens if you don't breath on it.

[@vibemunster]

Jism is just acting dumb as if he believed in flat earth, its damage control from his grift trying to make himself look innocent because he knows the outcome, he's already measured curvature twice and seen the ISS orbiting, he's a blagger like the rest of the dmbfck flerfs.

[@joewhip9303]

Jesus, why doesn’t it reflect off the dome everywhere? Why would there be night time anywhere?

[@LydiaReiko]

yeah why jesus, why? or should i ask your dad instead? lmao

[@dross4207]

It’s just nonsense. They say that the Sun is too far to see and that’s why it becomes nighttime, but then claim that a reflection, which would have to have light travel further, can give the appearance of daylight. Kind of like how we can see “dome stars” right at the horizon, but the much larger and brighter Sun is somehow hiding out in the open between the viewer and those stars.

[@cambridgemart2075]

Because reasons!

[@lidbass]

Will never forget that long ago before he became quite so infamous, Flatzoid made a typo in a comment. When I pointed this out to him, he doubled down and claimed that the misspelt word was South African slang. Unfortunately for him, I happen to know a couple of Saffers, and they all denied knowledge of the word. I called him out, and he went very, very quiet In other words, Flatzoid is incapable of admitting he has made a mistake and prefers to lie.

[@SamualRobotham-IWasOnlyKidding]

I wonder if he knows what the ninth commandment says? His god is going to be rather unhappy when he reaches the pearly gates 😮

[@dorkangel1076]

This sounds familiar. "If we just had a ring laser gyroscope...". $20,000 and a 15 degrees per hour drift later. "Beep, beep, beep" ... 🚚

[@profphilbell2075]

I’m thinking he has been looking for a legitimate way out of the cult for a while. This might well be the impetus he needs

[@tediacocca966]

Jaren is building his off ramp!

[@FerretWarlord1]

KZbin has a "Translate to English" button for your comment. "Years is building his off disaster!"

[@gregkotz7949]

Respect to Jeranism.

[@mikefochtman7164]

He is a rare individual for a flat-earther, at least concedes and understands the globe model to the point of noting what to expect.

[@MarceldeJong]

Nah, he rejected the globe proof he himself created in that documentary. “Interesting”. He’ll somehow spin it as somehow the heavenly energies lit up like the sun, or something.

[@ThoughtandMemory]

@@MarceldeJongthe reeds were in the way 😂

[@ekimnosettam]

Sounds like Jeran is positioning himself to become a former flerf. He knows his grift is going to be hard to continue in its current form after the Final Experiment.

[@Zumaray]

YES!! Came here to say exactly that and exactly what I thought!!!! It would be huge for him!!!!!!

[@profphilbell2075]

I’m thinking he has been looking for a legitimate way out of the cult for a while. This might well be the impetus he needs

[@acefox1]

Wow. Jeran already ignored his Interesting light result. Jeran already ignored that he used a globe-based transit-finder to accurately predict and record an ISS transit. My prediction was that whatever happens in Antarctica, Jeran will just ignore it like he did with his other globe confirmations. This video really puts him in a corner now. I don’t see how he’ll have any rational way out except to reject flat-Earth and lose his whole community. This will definitely be INTERESTING.

[@John.0z]

This will be the final experiment for Jeran's character as well. He is now on record with all his followers for this one, in a way that he did not need to express so clearly before. For him to deny what HE has predefined as the globe result - as opposed to his predefined flat earth result - will place him in a very bad position. He has even talked himself into a position with the flat community where pulling out will not be an option. His one "out" has been to require another flat earther to take the trip. As we have seen, this is looking unlikely, even when the second trip will also be paid for by Will.

[@acefox1]

@@John.0z Exactly right. And Jeran’s demands to have an emotional support flerf on the trip are utterly laughable.

[@John.0z]

@@acefox1 To be fair to Jeran, at a certain level I can understand him not wanting to be psychologically alone. But if he took the approach of "this is a great adventure we are *all* on" I am fairly sure that most of the globe people would treat him very well. Most of those going have already welcomed his participation in particular. And while most do not know the other globe participants personally, they are all really enthusiastic about the trip. Wolfie especially is _such_ a good educator that taking this trip with him would be the educational experience of a lifetime, with the visit to Antarctica being the cherry on top. He does not have to adopt the unfriendly "they are all my enemy" approach people like Nathan and DITRH do.

[@niaralosusa]

…so now they are claiming that sunlight “reflects on the edges of the dome” like a bowl or cup…okay, then how is there darkness anywhere in the world ever if light is reflecting across the entire surface of the earth at all times? SMH

[@thegrumpyoldmechanic6245]

St. Augustine had something to say about critters like Flatzoid; "Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books."

[@RockinRobbins13]

Augustine also said, ""Christ will "showeth himself to be throughout all nations in the whole round world, in great glory, but in great tribulation." Excuse the Middle English translation there from the Christian Classics Ethereal Library website. This was in about 400 AD, well before any Flerfs were dreamed of by science denialists of the 21st century.

[@thegrumpyoldmechanic6245]

@@RockinRobbins13 And there is the Venerable Bede: The reason why the same days are of unequal length is the roundness of the Earth, for not without reason is it called ‘‘the orb of the world’’ on the pages of Holy Scripture and of ordinary literature.

[@RockinRobbins13]

@@thegrumpyoldmechanic6245 From the beginning Judaic, Christian and Muslim religions have taught and believed spherical Earth. In Isaiah 40:2, one thousand years before Eratosthenes proved the earth is spherical, Isaiah said _"God is enthroned above the orb of the earth."_ When Eratosthenes said _"Holy crap! The earth is a sphere!"_ all the Jews said _"Tell us something we didn't know. Took ya long enough."_ (this should be read in a New York City accent). Various sixteenth century Latin Bibles indicate that medieval scholars understood khûg, the Hebrew word describing the literal shape of the earth, in Isaiah 40:22 to refer to the sphericity of the earth. For example, Santes Pagnino translated this sphaera, and Benedictus Arias Montanus and François Vatable, globus. The seventeenth century Giovanni Diodati Bible also used globus and the eighteenth century Dutch Hebraist Campeius Vitringa used orbis. More recently, the Spanish Jerusalem Bible used ‘orb’ and the Italian Riveduta Bible ‘globo’. Although in English, saying the Earth is round and the Earth is spherical can be synonymous, in Hebrew and Latin that is not true. In 1600s English and to a lesser degree, even now, a circle can be a sphere. In Hebrew and Latin, that can't be the case. The Hebrew word khûg may be related to the European words kugel (Middle High German), kula (Polish), kugla (Serbo-Croatian), gugā (their Proto-Indo-European root) and the modern Arabic word for ball, globe, orb or bowl - ‘kurah’. All of these clearly do refer to a spherical object. In modern Hebrew, a sphere is denoted by khûg, along with kaddur, galgal, and mazzal. In Arabic (another Semitic language), kura means ball and is the word used in the Van Dyck-Boustani Arabic Bible (1865) to translate khûg in Isaiah 40:22. The takeaway is that from the beginning, the religions of the Western world have taught and believed Earth is spherical. Although their history goes back further, we know Jews had believed that a thousand years before the advent of Christianity, which also, from the beginning, taught and believed Earth is spherical. Others will have to show that the Islamic world and the Indian religions taught the same. So our Flatopian Friends are just......lying again or still lying. Gotta lie to flerf.

[@maxmac7845]

When they're put on the spot, every single one of them are too cowardly to be confronted with their lies. Most of them cite the Bible but at the same time are bare-faced liars. Doesn't one of the ten commandments make reference to bearing false witness? Proverbs 19:5 A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape. Hypocrisy is all part of the conspiracy theorist playbook. Jeren might be the single exception, interesting.

[@do_notknow_much]

Indeed. Dubay should have been the first Papa Flerf going on this adventure. The Bible is chock full of symbology, metaphors, parables, etc. Not entirely literal. However, I can find a couple of scriptures that support a Globe Earth. ...Enthroned above the circle of the Earth. Isaiah 40:22 ...Hangs the Earth upon nothing. Job 26:7 Yes, the photos of the Earth from the Moon demonstrate a circle from any angle. And it appears Earth is hung upon nothing. Only a geometric shape like a spherical Globe can be seen as a circle from any angle.

[@TheTruthHz]

I think it's crucial to take solar filters on the trip to verify the angular size of the sun during the day. It will cut off any claims of "fake sun", "sun simulation" etc. Make comparisons to the angular size of the sun from different elevations around the globe on the same day.

[@Starhawke_Gaming]

Never thought I'd see the day that Jeramiaim is the most intellectually honest flearf of the bunch.

[@david_akerman]

So in coming up with his glass bowl excuse for 24 hour Sun in Antarctica, he is saying that his entire flat earth should have 24 hour Sun. Oopsies.

[@SamualRobotham-IWasOnlyKidding]

Toons forth law of flerf.

[@do_notknow_much]

Indeed. ..But it still doesn't explain the Antarctica Sun's movement path being opposite of the 24 hour Arctic Sun. And high altitude video would easily demonstrate a Sun and its reflection. The excuse making and goal post moving is sad, pathetic and comical. Monumental hypocrites!!! ...There is a good reason the Globe is chock full of Globe science colleges all over the place. But I can only find one Flat Earth Institute of Science. Kyle Adams in his living room, with a couple of family members as the student enrollment.🤣

[@sorsimmanis626]

If you show Flatzoid a 24h video of the Sun not setting, he will remove 11 million frames from it.

[@Urban_Spaceman]

nice "penny drop" at the end 😁

[@ShMokou]

Save all data, flerfs will lie about past.

[@doranku]

Jeran's remarks, interesting. In a very good way.

[@GeistView]

Take note of the confession that people can go to Antarctica and not just to the Peninsula. Flerfs have forgotten to push the narrative that NOBODY can go to Antarctica.

[@Mosesranthemetresinarcseconds]

Jism is simply planting the seed prior to him jumping ship as he realises he may be able to double or triple his followers and his grift!!

[@friggincanvee]

Jeran is the most sensible FEer. I think come the end of the year he'll have finally come to his senses.

[@hopmajibhohepeajibho7595]

That's why a ton of flerfs call him a shill

[@mballer]

There's always NASA.

[@lorditsprobingtime6668]

Not that being THE most sensible flerf is a particularly high praise lol.

[@friggincanvee]

@@lorditsprobingtime6668 it's not, but think dunning kruger... He's not top left, as the others on this clip are.

[@lorditsprobingtime6668]

@@friggincanvee No but, he did get a lot of votes that he was, just not enough to beat the craziness Of Chris, from Weschester county on such and such a date who's definitely getting worse every day. Poor little CC lol.

[@dreadnoughtus2598]

"I only trust god's word, not Man's word." "How'd you know its god's word?" "Some Men wrote it down in a book 2,000 years ago."

[@thegrumpyoldmechanic6245]

I still find the "Final Experiment" a bit annoying. Its been done by more than 300 skiers experiencing the 24 hour sun as they went to the South Pole. How was Roald Amundsen able to navigate? Obviously by keeping track of the Sun's position relative to time and its altitude to locate the Pole.

[@Lugor96]

Well yes but the whole point is to take flat earthers there to disprove two of their claims first that you cant go there (surprisingly during this time they completely forgot) and second that there is no 24h sun in Antarctica.

[@sphaera2520]

To me it’s more a social experiment than just seeing 24h sun. Fe have spent years saying nobody can go to Antarctica, among other claims about what it would be like down there. Now they’re finally given the chance to test that. Who will agree to go and actually test their beliefs and who will pull a flatzoid?

[@StephenJarvis-pi5zu]

I don't think Jeran has ever thought the Earth is Flat or at least He questions it. He always seems to be more into Conspiracies. And Flatzoid well no words can describe Him

[@jaketzi8816]

I have a word to describe Failzoid; Idiot. Plain and simple idiot. He can't be compared to anything, he is the one to be compared to; As dumb as Failzoid, or even worse insult, dumber than Failzoid!!!

[@jaketzi8816]

Jeran is too smart to be a flat earther. Or remain as one, if he is.

[@StephenJarvis-pi5zu]

@@jaketzi8816 I think the same. I may be wrong but Jeran and Witsit are cooking something up. Witsit has never said that the Earth is Flat he also believes in the Universe watch this space

[@clivedavis6859]

Dishonest would describe Flatzy. He has been caught out several times.

[@vibemunster]

All the mainstream flattards have been caught with their trousers down but still gullible clowns pay their wages.

[@Mosesranthemetresinarcseconds]

I swear that Flatzoid was asked by the moderator in a recent debate if he would pack it all in if there was indeed a 24 hour sun in Antarctica and he said yes!! If would be wonderful to find that clip and bolt it onto where flatzy says a 24 hour sun would prove a flat earth in this video!!

[@GloberMom]

Flatz is actually proving here that flat earth is a religion. It's all about beliefs, nothing more.

[@do_notknow_much]

But these hypocritical religi-flerfs somehow forget to read the part of the Bible that condemns lying and deception.

[@Lisa-uj6ik]

Sov soul also backpedaled on the flights before. That’s what he does. I also heard him tell Will Duffy that he’s always had this understanding of the Bible. Previously, Sov said his parents stopped going to church when he was 4. He became an atheist. Then approx Jan 2023, when he did his first show on the Mandela Effect, he said he needed to find someone who understands and knows the Bible to help him understand it. That man is just a liar. He’s constantly coming up with new stories and reinventing himself. He has blocked me from his channel because I pointed out his lies and inconsistencies.

[@whereswa11y]

Will is a literal gentleman and a scholar. He went to London to view some original Bible for a research study he was doing. He was extremely lucky to have been able to view it. One smart chap.

[@whereswa11y]

Meanwhile Flatzoid says “no show tonight as I am a bit tide up” Must be a moon effect

[@whereswa11y]

I triggered ssum there other day by commenting that a “Christian pasture is where you grow Godly grass for the cows “ He were none too pleased

[@Lisa-uj6ik]

@@whereswa11y he was only triggered because you were making fun of him. He has a huge, but delicate ego. He is only starting to dip his toes into God and the Bible because it is what he’s supposed to do as a flat earther. He is a follower.

[@whereswa11y]

@@Lisa-uj6ik so funny when he tried the Mandela on Will . Asked him about a verse he thought had been changed and Will just politely told him “ no that’s what it’s always been” Was so delicious

[@nige8161]

Welcome to the globe Jeran.

[@chrisdurhammusicchannel]

Failzoid: "We make no claims." Um, Flat earth is a claim. Years and years of claiming flat Earth and still not one spec of evidence of flatness!

[@Globolino]

Flerfs in panic mode.

[@eleventhchimp]

Imagine a post TFE colab between Jeranism and Rachie. That would be ferocious. Not an impossible future it seems.

[@More-Space-In-Ear]

10:02 balls! Jeran will only go if witshit goes with him, he's even forcing Duffy to take his seat....talk about moving the goalposts...

[@whereswa11y]

Yes great spot. A few days ago Jeranism was saying he would be killed it he went. But he has been a bit of a baby diva

[@More-Space-In-Ear]

@whereswa11y if memory serves me right, Duffy will be spending over $100,000 just for those two... Witshit would lie if he goes, he'll state he was drugged and moved to a studio...Capricorn One anyone?

[@whereswa11y]

@@More-Space-In-Ear Will should ask them to promote a GoFundMe for Will to go

[@More-Space-In-Ear]

@whereswa11y should and would do it is way out of a flat earther's mind, getting something for free and then get money from is the only thoughts flerfs work...I really think Jeran will confess the earth is a globe but witshit....no way. Shame Oakley doesn't go, though it would be a one way conversation there and back! LOL..

[@JSSTyger]

Jeran is getting closer.

[@mballer]

3 suns would bother me.

[@Sherwoody]

Chip, Ernie, or Robbie…what happened to Mike?

[@thegreatshamalamadingdong9788]

2:14 claim number 2 of we don't have any cliams. The dome 😅😅

[@doranku]

Lets keep flat urf unfalsifiable please. Da truff hurts to much to da grifth.

[@titanshub]

Listening to flerfs panic abou testing one of thier claims is too funny. They have no shame lol

[@RubbermanReterg]

It will be interesting to see what Jeran's take on it will be after the event happens and is recorded and verified by globers and flatters at the same time.

[@babotond]

if your model can't be falsified, it's not a model, it's a dogma.

[@ScottM1973]

We need to start a betting pool for the excuses each flerf, going, will make when back. I really want to see the numbers for Jeran

[@bradwooldidge6979]

They’re really grasping at straws now aren’t they?

[@CryptoRoast_0]

Lmao, theyre all so scared. Its delicious.

[@JSSTyger]

When did this whole thing about "daylight but no Sun" thing pop up in Flat-Earth arguments? Is this an Austin Witsit thing? Wouldn't this phenomenon also work at the Tropic of Capricorn at the same time?

[@do_notknow_much]

DITRH deep in the rabbit derp, flat earth Dave made this claim in his debate with Professor Dave.

[@JSSTyger]

@@do_notknow_much Wouldn't it have to work for the Tropic of Capricorn as well?

[@biggusdoggus]

Jeran clearing a path to the exit. Maybe he will team up with Witsit with globe geocentrism?

[@kdog3908]

Voluminous clouds of high grade copium fumes drifting out of the flat earth community right now. You love to see it.

[@duncanmcneill7088]

3:16 - that says it all.

[@Frazemac1]

Flat earthers should just do comedy full time 😛

[@GymRowboat]

Mission accomplished.

[@thebrokentrifold2578]

welcome to the globe jerran

[@vimalramachandran]

Jeran took his video down and made it “members only.”😁

[@Hold_My_Pocket]

Did I see flatzoid add to this by claiming we don't know what it is? Do you think we should see if we can betting odds on if the flat earth community will turn up for the last experiment?

[@kojut2707]

Fair play to Jeran for this words. He seems to he very honest and he can prove that some flerfs are just lost. There is a hope.

[@Katy_Jones]

Isn't it nice when all they do is demonstrate they KNOW flat erf is bollix. Somebody who actually believed their claims would go...

[@Requiem4aDr3Am]

Props to Jeran for stepping up instead of making excuses like the other flerfs.

[@petemk73]

It's refreshing to see Jeran being willing to accept whatever evidence he'll be presented with, but also seems to be getting exasperated at the truth of the mindset of other flat earthers who he seems to finally realise don't give a crap about evidence. He's still making demands of Will before he goes, but at least he's still willing

[@justus19711]

actually impressed by jeran, some honesty from the flerf community, that's a very rare occurrance

[@pentallica893]

Why does the sky go dark in high altitude balloons? Does the sun reflecting off of the dome not apply here? How can all of Antarctica be in daylight but not the rest of the earth?

[@John.0z]

Jeran's contribution is impeccable. Just as his observation using the holes and torch was a perfectly formed and executed observation. It would seem that he is going to take the trip south.

[@JohnnyD_cm]

Flerfs are in full on panic mode. The feeling is tangible. Before the announcement, it was carry on as usual. But now they've got a free meal ticket, suddenly they don't know what to do. It's delicious.

[@iamironman494]

Did anyone ask Mark Sargent?

[@MonochromaticLightsource]

The penny has dropped for Jeran. He knows its over in December.

[@fred810]

Mic drop, Jaron!

[@zacharysieg2305]

Flatzoid is a coward. David Weiss is a coward. Everyone else who previously said they’d like to go and now refuse to do so when presented with the opportunity is a coward.

[@SamualRobotham-IWasOnlyKidding]

Sorry. I disagree DIRTH isn’t a coward. He’s a lying scammer refusing to go to desperately try and protect his grift. Sorry to contradict you.

[@ruseriousdownunder4888]

The mental gymnastics of grifters and liars. Although he does seem genuinely terrified of the truth.

[@tomwolfe6063]

I'm in support of this but it's probably not going to matter. They didn't get here by being able to calculate and understand the implications of real world observations and applying them to a predictive model. Most of them don't understand the difference between up and north.

[@wired_dave]

The ‘Penny Drop’ is genius mate.

[@hellomike]

This morning I checked out Jeran video that you referred to without problem. Now, few hours later it is changed to Members Only! Now that IS fishy! 🤨🤨🤨 Seems the truth is only for people that pay for it...............

[@bobblum5973]

Wally, you make a good point when you showcase the clip of Jeran. Those of us who stand on the side of the globe tend to not mock the Flat Earth believers themselves, but rather their beliefs and how they claim evidence while denying anything that conflicts with that viewpoint.

[@Atlas6355_]

Flerfs are already sweating on their chais! 😅 their excuses, and Nu uh are off the charts 🤣

[@Jack_Wolfe]

1:20 "Flat earth hasnt made any claims" Thats likely because there's nothing TO claim.

[@davidkeller6156]

“Hundreds of evidences for a flat earth.” What have I missed?😂😂😂😂

[@johnwellbelove148]

Most surprising comment from jeranism!. I never expected that. Will he be following in the footsteps of Rachie0000 on the path to enlightenment?

[@david_akerman]

Interesting.

[@abdobelbida7170]

Remember when jeran ddid an experiment to check if there is a curve and ended up proving there is? That was TEN YEARS AGO, he maintained the delusion for a whole decade depite the result of an experiment he did, he won't stop now.

[@pentallica893]

Flatzoid claims that flat earth is backed by science and that it's not a religious belief, then he says it doesn't matter what science says, the bible says it's flat... but i thought you said you had science? Now it's just a religious belief?

[@opelvectra2297]

Jeran is preparing to change the science and become a serious moderator.

[@charlie2640]

He doesn't want to waste his time by going to Antartica? Interesting. It sure seems like he wastes a lot of time.

[@Darryl.M]

@whereswa11y looks like he just made the video members only.

[@CriticalThink]

Good one!

[@Ihaveanamenowtaken]

Gotta lie to flerf.

[@Nimion2]

Jism actually making a logical conclusion? He makes me propose new test for this expedition. Do wavelength test of sunlight(or some other means to test it), before going south, that can be repeated when in Anyarctica, to show it is the same object visible in both locations. Otherwise, flerfs will say, "FAKE SUN". Someone else can determine what test would be best at this.

[@mballer]

They were talking about taking pictures of the sunspots which would match up from everywhere on Earth.

[@clivedavis6859]

@@mballer They could also do spectroscopy (in a container if they wish).