Flea Market Madness Legacy, Jubilee Debates, Silver Spoons Rules - Not So Common Podcast #66

[@PatTheNESpunk]

What do you think about 15 years of Flea Market Madness? Is there a legacy at all? Also, am I too obsessed with Silver Spoons? ***Check out the latest Chilluminati episode with Alex that I guess-starred on here*** kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHrXXoGGqqZlaZY

[@Aragorn7884]

❤ Flea Market Madness 😊

[@wesleymadsen4357]

Love it still

[@GaryStewart-ml1mu]

I still love it!

[@tymonritco8578]

I love flea market madness!

[@toastrave7820]

FMM always good as i loved seeing the bizarre stuff Frank would get

[@TJSpyke]

Alex is wrong about shepherd's pie. Although SOME people think it is only lamb, it is common for it to be made with beef too

[@overflowlootbag5566]

Technically he is not wrong, but in common usage everyone refers to both as shepherds pie. I’m a chef irl. Just sayin

[@AllyC_Rhythms]

I picked up on something really cool in this video. I’m from Scotland (which can fit 5 and a half times into California!!!) and very critical of US politics (as are many Americans). But you make a great point. With the US as massive as it is with as many people as it has from so many places; it’s amazing that it does anything democratic at all. It’s actually a big compliment - some smaller countries like mine struggle to agree some real basics and we only have 5.5million people! Great vid - real head scratcher!

[@Vectrex4Life]

Flea Market Madness is great and I think it should still continue, even if it's just a few episodes a year. I don't really go to Kobey's anymore, but in the late 2000s and beyond, I was finding equally amazing stuff there just like Pat was. The legend is true. Surely the series can continue even without amazing finds.

[@comeonerinplays3539]

In the mid 90s Patrick pooped his pants in third grade.

[@Peters_Pasqually]

I used to be a 'wait for other people to grab food first' guy, but then everyone became one, and everyone would be standing around awkwardly with the food getting cold. Then the first person to grab food is like "well, if no one's gonna eat it" and will empty all of the most delicious food. Never again.

[@xxkomebackkidxx]

It was me Pat. I’m surprised you remember that 10 years later. I had the cam doing hunting in a thrift store in early 2009. Mine was filmed in potato vision on an original Razr phone in 180p. I had a small niche amount of friends and followers who watched each others videos in the early gaming community days. But Flea Market Madness IS THE seminal game hunting show on KZbin. Yours was groundbreaking, influential, innovative for all the bigger shows to come later-the Game Chasers, Pixel game squad, retro hunters etc. I hope you continue to make FMM as I enjoy them as well as the Ultimate Nintendo books you write!

[@msingleton]

I did not expect a Silver Spoons deep dive. Awesome! I’ll definitely be watching the series again as I too have misremembered it. I would love to hear a deep dive of Family Ties.

[@ninjasec]

Flea market madness, the real day's of game hunting . Now people posting "game hunting/toy hunting " but its at a convention, curated for the person. Its not the same. Like calling shooting a caged animal hunting .

[@comeonerinplays3539]

Back when Pat pooped his pants in third grade nobody even wanted those old games. They were dirt cheap. Pat may have been remembered throughout high school as the kid who pooped his pants but I guess he won by owning Surprise at Dinosaur Peak.

[@DameonRaye]

@PatTheNESpunk Just throwing this out there as a 34 going on 35 year old gamer who grew up playing Doom, Quake, Quake 2, Unreal, Unreal Tournament/Champions... Unreal T/C are absolutely boomer shooters, they qualify as such based on a few factors: Movement plays a key role in the gameplay. Doom may not have had jumping, but that was a factor of the engine capabilities of the time, and movement still plays a majority factor in it's gameplay. The difference between that and modern shooters, is that modern shooters are often stop and pop, cover based, hide and recover health, locked in place set pieces, run to the next point and watch the cutscene then pop off enemies behind cover, then move to the next setpiece fanfare. Doom was entirely about nonstop action which promoted movement in combat and the only retriction is the limits of the world around you, and that's what Unreal was about. The primary link for this is Quake, which is the quintessential marker for what makes a Boomer shooter; free-form movement, health weapon and armor pickups, consistent combat, no set pieces, old-school FPS gameplay loop design philosophy. Halo, while still a boomer shooter for the most part, was the deathknell for what was then the FPS genre as we knew it.

[@TheUnleetGamer]

56:20 fact check, European Union population 449.2 million, United States population 334.9 million. US doesn't dwarf EU as an entity. That said, EU is really an economic union with free movement. Beyond that it's independent, self governing countries with their own identities governments and laws. People, generally are French, Spanish, German etc and not 'European', there isn't really a shared identity. 55:40 Germany has 83 million people, France (66.4 million), Italy (60.93 million), Spain (46.42 million), Ukraine (42.85 million), California population 39 million and Los Angeles County 9.7 million - so off base there too.

[@edwang8975]

Not reallly

[@edwang8975]

I will say not really

[@TheUnleetGamer]

@@edwang8975 what's not really? Not really what?

[@jonas000111]

good catch

[@TJSpyke]

In terms of size the United States DOES dwarf the European Union. The European Union is 4.2 million square kilometers while the United States is 9.6 million square kilometers

[@killscreen7519]

1:18:55 Alex humming Petty Pat to the tune of Three's Company. Also please keep doing Flea Market Madness. I love the video games, however what really draws me in is the board games and toys. Those aren't things I'd collect so I'm not well versed in the market. Also because you're buying these items "as is" it's more honest in terms of expectations and prices. It feels like authentic reality TV. I also think there's a market for demonstrating the Avalon Hill games. Board games have come back and considering the D&D/TTRPG streams I think it would be worth a shot.

[@OgyAnime]

I've always enjoyed Flea Market Madness. Well, I like all of Pat's videos, not just that one series. A combination of Flea Market Madness and Game Center CX (a.k.a. Retro Videogame Master) inspired my own series called Anime Bargain Hunt. Pat, thank you for Flea Market Madness. It's always fun to watch. One issue I have regarding using the same location is the stock doesn't change. It can stay stagnant because the collector's common mindset is, "It's mind! You can't have it!! I'll never trade this!!!" until a major utt oh bill occurs, and then it returns back into the market.

[@markl1109]

They had an interesting Jubilee video where 3 autistic people guessed who was autistic... They did really good at spotting signs

[@jonathany1259]

I especially like how Pat starts talking about something I want to hear about and Alex interrupts and derails the entire topic because he can’t help himself. Great podcast!

[@comeonerinplays3539]

The prices and selections are among the best around. Pat the NES punk turned his pants...into brown! In third grade.

[@MIDNIGHT0521]

I've been doing a lot of rewatching shows in my '80s youth as well of recent. I'm just nearly finished with the 8th and final season of Who's The Boss? on Rewind TV. Silver Spoons is still on Antenna TV on weekends, and on right now this hour as I type 1p - 2p EST. I try to not let actions of people I once liked and/or revered get muddled by their later actions in adulthood though it has occurred. Like, when it comes to Silver Spoons in particular when Rick Schroeder bailed out Kyle Rittenhouse bothered me on a viceral level at the time and made me look at him a bit differently. Unfortunately there's been more since of others too but not about to air or list those names at this time. I enjoy the Pat deep dives on a show in this format with Alex, and hope he'll do more in future NSC episodes. Such segments may not be everybody's cup of coffee/tea but it does help being around similar age to Pat, give or take a year or two at most I believe, and having the life lived ability to find these discussions entertaining, even comforting to a degree.

[@flyingonblades]

Fortnite battle Royale came out about two or three months after the Main game… my kid and her friends were hooked on it even in 2017. It really kind of took off overnight.

[@comeonerinplays3539]

Just imagine in the 90s when Patty boy pooped his pants in his third grade class.

[@TheWyman55_]

Obsessed

[@anthonyherrick452]

Yay. video format podcast. Thanks so much. Yes your opinion matters

[@Majax2]

Thankfully, I have my NT Mini Noir, SuperNT, & MegaSG & have a full, complete rom set for every system. I will NEVER look for physical cartridges. If one CIB should happen to cross my path I'll buy it, but the days of getting good deals at flee markets is OVER, especially with the advent of eBay. Garage sales are the only place you could even look nowadays for any kind of deal.

[@comeonerinplays3539]

The only thing retro I remember about Patrick is when he pooped his pants in third grade. He certainly had a physical "cartridge" in his pants that day!

[@Ashrudel]

I never thought about Flea Market Madness merch, that's a untapped market.

[@BandTrap]

Alex is the funniest man in history

[@xsv-]

I only watch flea market madness for the Frank bits

[@vintagechad77]

Side-math is real and should be taught in schools.

[@billzco6137]

Devil eggs are always gone immediately on Thanksgiving. Im lucky to get 2

[@CbassMajor]

1:26 I play fortnite and that profile icon he is talking about is extremely rare and actually very sought after to the right person, the only way to get one now is to buy someone's account (it is against tos so be careful if you do sell your account because it could get banned lol) but that is actually very crazy and very historical that he has that and actually met Donald Mustard.

[@qmto]

Less than 5 minutes in and Alex already showing he has no idea what he’s talking about when it becomes clear he has no idea what the concrete clear as day definition of Boomer Shooter is.

[@OnslaughtSix]

Meanwhile I'm over here thinking Pat is the moron for saying Unreal isn't a boomer shooter

[@jonathany1259]

He’s trying to talk on pats level, Pat is polished and can narrate, Alex is like a dog barking

[@jonas000111]

My 6 year old needs to school them about geography, what a bunch of clowns. Stick to games.

[@Krushak8888]

Boomer shooter to me is any fast pace, set pieces, and usually a lot of enemies. UT is an arena boomer shooter to me. Its fast pace, a lot of weapons.

[@BlackMetalChauvinist]

My cousin was married to Corky Pidgeon, the nerdy kid from Silver Spoons. He recently went off his rocker and left on some religious mission from God. Just up and left my cousin and their daughter. He is missing to this day.

[@comeonerinplays3539]

That is even more crazy than when Pat pooped his pants in third grade.

[@mirvid5862]

Sophistry is THE WHOLE DEAL OF YOUR HERO DESTINY, that and relying on wikipedia.

[@johnm140]

Mashed potatoes is 3rd duh

[@gridly.todd.h]

My order goes CU, NSC, Punk, FMM, but I like them all!

[@PunkOnARant]

At about the one hour mark you talk about how many retro convention visiting people around the world might watch Flea Market Madness, well i can tell you this much, i've visited some retro game conventions here in Sweden (a 10.5 million people country by the way) and as far as i can tell, there's not a soul who wouldent know about Pat's Flea Market Madness series there. So regarding the idea that a majority of retro game convention visiting people around the world watch that series? It actually sounds likely to me.

[@killervacuum]

pat you should challenge destiny to a debate about the mineutia of eBay policies

[@killscreen7519]

Anyone inviting Destiny to speak is guilty of crimes against humanity.

[@nathanielfincher4394]

All this boomer shooter talks is making my head spin. Unreal Tournament is not a boomer shooter. Bah!!!

[@OnslaughtSix]

Love hearing Alex. And I think he's right about Unreal Tournament.

[@msingleton]

“A butt load of food?” Why did we stop saying boat load? 😂😂😂

[@toastrave7820]

butt load is an actual unit as a regional English measure of capacity of a heavy cart (a butt), containing 6 seams, or 48 bushels, equivalent to 384 gallons

[@msingleton]

@@toastrave7820 😆I had no idea. Wow! Thanks. I had to ask ChatGPT to find out more. “A boatload is generally larger than a buttload, but the comparison depends on the context in which the terms are used. Here’s a breakdown: Buttload • A butt is a historical English unit of volume equal to 126 gallons (about 476 liters), specifically for liquids like wine or ale. Boatload • A boatload is not a fixed unit of measurement and depends on the size and capacity of the boat. For example: • A small rowboat might hold a few hundred liters. • A large cargo ship could carry millions of gallons or tons. Conclusion If taken literally, a boatload can range from being smaller than a butt (in the case of a tiny boat) to vastly larger (in the case of large ships). In modern informal usage, both terms are used hyperbolically to mean ‘a large amount,’ but a boatload usually implies something much larger.”

[@davidpaulson5363]

The EU discussion was odd. They had a lot of factual errors, and i still dont know what point they were trying to make. They might not know either.

[@nathanielfincher4394]

Tee Market Madness shirts are upon us? 😲

[@Tanookicatoon]

Haha, I joined Fortnite Battle Royale during Chapter 5, and that was back in 2015-16(?) so 2019 is a little late to be saying the Battle Royale was added. XD ALSO, Unreal Tournament has been in Fortnite before. They literally have Unreal Chill as lobby music. And then they bring up Gears of War... when They literally added sliding to the cover movement, BECAUSE of Gears of War... They put Marcus Fenix in! XD The argument about Boomer Shooters is interesting. I don't think the original Doom and games like it are Boomer Shooters. I think "Boomer Shooter" is the genre that is copying what we called Doom Clones. So now we are at a point where "Boomer Shooters" Aren't copying Doom Clones anymore. They have indeed become Unreal and Quake.

[@jrpggolden6243]

Any guy that thinks trans-woman should be allowed to play against cis-woman is insane lol.

[@lvadolape6192]

ragebait

[@fargoretro]

You guys are the sorest winners on the planet.

[@thepatternofchairs9814]

@@lvadolape6192you seem to be taking all the “bait” in the comment section

[@jrpggolden6243]

@@lvadolape6192 I commented this because Pat's co-host implied trans-women should be allowed to play sports with cis-women. If you disagree that's fine, but it's not a ragebait comment, it's my own belief.

[@JTSuter]

Is there a “C. I don’t give a shit about any of it” option?

[@relateuk2003]

Shepherds pie is mutton

[@KarmaKazi666]

Sorry bud, it's over. This dude is unlistenable and I've tried. Bring on another host. Woof.

[@crtgamer2355]

I laughed my ass off @ the digital only, boomer part, WOW!! Kids these days are so lost, I feel bad for them... What happens when you can't afford to pay for power any longer, or there is a world wide shut down of the power grid, at least you have a physical book to read! C'mon maaaaaaaan!!

[@HellsMaster]

Shirt! Shirt! Shirt!

[@MosoKaiser]

It's almost endearing how confidently Alex is insisting on being utterly wrong on the core characterics of boomer shooters. :DD But gotta give it him, he's dead on good proper ham being anything but a quick thing to whip up. In Finland christmas hams are serious business. People got their own special ways of baking them, taking up to 12 hours or even longer, on low heat, carefully kept an eye on. I don't think you can even buy full-size hams pre-cooked, at least in grocery stores. You buy it, you bake it. What comes pre-cooked is just those smaller ham rolls. Not sure what would be the correct term there though, definitely _not_ that what comes up when googling "ham roll"... Meaning a smaller-than-full-size product that's basically a mini ham.

[@scottg7660]

Alex. Please. PLEASE stop saying “like” so goddamn much. I’ve asked nicely before but Jesus Christ man.

[@jupiterjazz9421]

He's from SoCal, it's ingrained in his bones

[@bud9450]

👍🤜🤛

[@dacatindahat8275]

Damn it... Alex is finally growing on me.

[@brandongoede5907]

Welcome to the club

[@jonathany1259]

Like for real, like, like like, really?

[@digipimp75]

Alex is so annoying and makes these unwatchable/unlistenable

[@Krushak8888]

So then stop? Lol

[@scottg7660]

He says LIKE every other word. So obnoxious.

[@jupiterjazz9421]

​@@scottg7660He's from SoCal. It's part of their daily vocab usage.

[@jonathany1259]

Yet I keep listening, mainly because I like Pat

[@jonathany1259]

@@jupiterjazz9421no he’s worse than like, most people

[@edwang8975]

I will say wow

[@mirvid5862]

Your country hasn't been a democracy for quite a long while.

[@DK-210]

I’ve never seen someone so ignorant of his own generation’s culture than Alex. It feels like Pat has to school him about being a millennial.

[@comeonerinplays3539]

Poop the pants, you pooped your pants Patrick. Poop the pants I remember third grade. I'm sure you have no idea who I am but I totally remember you poopin' your pants in third grade. You came back from the office with some random shorts on that was from lost and found or something.

[@ComedyRoom10]

Proof?

[@mirvid5862]

Why do you guys are talking about destiny. The best example of the toxic KZbin debate scene you are complaining about. All that disgusting person function as is to be a mouth piece of the US state department on foreign issues and a mouth piece of the Democratic party on US internal wrestling theatric politics.

[@GaryStewart-ml1mu]

I like Alex! I think his political views are crap, but I find it entertaining listening to him even when he spouts his insane Bolshevik ideals!

[@lvadolape6192]

ragebait

[@GaryStewart-ml1mu]

@@lvadolape6192Alex does do rage bait. I find it entertaining.

[@toastrave7820]

didn't he use to do pokemon videos? i could swear he did

[@GaryStewart-ml1mu]

I’m serious not being sarcastic. I think Alex is a good counter to Pat and I like the podcast. I don’t have to agree with him to enjoy his banter.

[@kennethwehrs8924]

Saying people have brain damage for thinking differently isn't a very good way of changing people's minds. Being an avid abortion enthusiast while at the same time saying hunting a deer is "taking a life" probably seems a little crazy to many people. Most people are too busy trying to make a living and surviving to think about politics, especially when politics is as unappealing a subject as ever. So they just vote for either the person they know, or the person who isn't in power.