Men's Rights Activists vs Feminists | Middle Ground

[@jubilee]

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[@qqqalo]

cringe

[@caiden5855]

No

[@terrorists-are-among-us]

Just sue Jubilee and get rich FAST 😂

[@Bobbobbity-e5g]

ur mom

[@SEELAYTRAY777]

terrible host.....safety is not not same as sexism host should have read definition

[@boredhuman1855]

At this point I just watch these to upset myself 💀🥲

[@stracyb7545]

I swear

[@GigiMurakami]

@@boredhuman1855 literally 😅

[@raulrosado7916]

Deadass

[@EvSqPr]

lmfao

[@armandoceballos6533]

Real

[@ARajantara777]

*Me:* Sees title *Also me:* Sigh.. opens the comment section

[@capcaptainmycaptain4771]

Me: Sigh... *Unzips pants*

[@Fogbound-q8n]

Litteraly said about every episode in middle ground lol

[@machellovelivelife658]

Same. The comment section determines if I waste my time watching. Jubilee is a bait & switch platform. Coming out of 2020 there was a growing appetite for civil "across the aisle" conversations. Jubilee stepped in to respond to that demand (the bait), but just gave us uncontrolled unrepresentative shouting matches (the switch). It's really frustrating. There's no way they are not reading the comment section and seeing the change we are requesting.

[@4rtivist]

+ *sigh* Sees Pearl… then I opened comments 😂

[@Flesh_Wizard]

LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLEEEEE!!!!

[@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστή]

Jubilee please I need a Europeans VS Americans middle ground

[@Kiwonfu]

What will they talk about

[@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστή]

@@Kiwonfu Idk probably things like cultural and societal differences or politics/political issues

[@Qllz783]

What are they going to do argue if it’s soccer or football

[@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστή]

@@Qllz783 Not a bad idea

[@kiidpoh]

@@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστήlol u don't even know just wanna see some sh*t 😂😂I feel u

[@tvz123]

Pearl is absolutely not a legitimate person to bring to a discussion, in my opinion it makes the other men activists look less legitimate...

[@jeffsmith9420]

Yep, she is a social media entrepreneur and little more.

[@ricksanchez1893]

Your being sexist

[@mustekalapuu1746]

An idea for middle ground: Jubilee employees vs. Jubilee critics Possible claims: "Jubilee is a drama channel" "Jubilee encourages empathy" "We should always listen to both sides" "Everything should be up for debate"

[@valexizhexa1786]

Bro just spawned the most controversial of ideas

[@dg20038]

They gotta invite aba & preach for this one

[@waelamri-qe6cd]

this!!!!!!

[@JamesLettetman]

Jubilee vs Aba and peeach

[@len-1768]

Do it! I usually see leftists criticize Jubilee for having "oppressed folks and their oppressors" come together for dialogue, and humbling them would be a great idea.

[@emilroussis]

Jubilee added an imposter, and thought we didn't notice

[@michaelhoudecki3657]

They also edited so many excellent points out and it was VERY obvious

[@julieannewaller7541]

Well the two male feminists were actually misogynists too

[@iamintriguing]

Lol

[@strahnbrad3979]

I legit cringed and squinted each time he opened his mouth

[@iamintriguing]

@@strahnbrad3979 😂

[@osceli9682]

I wanna see single dads vs single moms

[@cypher_2259]

What would they argue about 😭 not everything is men Vs Women

[@fierybl4de400]

@@cypher_2259 people will argue over nothing

[@funman4tw1]

​@@cypher_2259still waiting for society to even acknowledge single fathers exist. Feminists refuse to acknowledge it. It's only ever phrased as single mothers. I changed my child on the floor or sink because there was never a changing table in a men's room. Welfare. I made too much. Child support. Nope, signed over her rights. So please.

[@lukaslipovec4012]

Interesting idea . We all know both are facing different issues

[@qtthennaaaa]

or married vs single parents

[@remone2013]

Lmao no issue with men getting custody?! Took me 10 years to get my son. These idiots are clueless.

[@soundsaboutright---]

Most of the time men get custody when they go for it.

[@notdeus3834]

Yeesh, dude, sorry you had to deal with that. I wish you happier days

[@soundsaboutright---]

@remone2013 that sucks. The data is still pretty clear on what happens in family court. Even your situation is consistent with the data: when men go for custody they get it more often than not.

[@Bizzybanks24]

@@soundsaboutright--- after 10 years lol

[@keymaster430]

Yeah, that one complaining about men wanting their children only after the mother files for divorce irked me. She says, "Where were you when I was raising them the first 10 years of their lives?" Most men's answer: "Well, I was at work, providing for them, because someone had to."

[@malcolmmoore2232]

Ariel was a feminist spy sent to the men’s side😂😂😂

[@Sagefrakrobatik]

As soon as he uttered the word patriarchy...I knew

[@wavzone]

@@Sagefrakrobatik So because he has basic knowledge of the world around him, you disagree...? Makes zero sense. These words aren't just buzzwords, they hold meaning & should be able to be used freely.

[@kristianoickle2722]

​@wavzone *delusional knowledge of the world around him* just look up mass shared delusion on Google.

[@talesofsymphoniavids]

​​@@wavzonepatriarchy is just a feminist fantasy.

[@frostkid08]

​@@wavzone if you hou paid attention you ... Most are his points are against men's rights

[@justinsteiner999]

Ariel wanted to be on the show so bad, but all the feminist spots were filled 🤣

[@MarcoAce13]

He’s a better MRA than the ones on the show

[@nickbreen287]

@@MarcoAce13 He is just a male assigned at birth because there's nothing else masculine about him.

[@ReelNinja1]

@@MarcoAce13seriously? Can you tell us how? I would argue Thomas was the most reasonable person on the panel. Ariel said he wanted to get rid of gender altogether but when Thomas brought up situations that feminists fought against (specifically against domestic abuse support for men) proving that feminists advocate for gender specifics…Ariel stayed quiet. Why would the person who wants to get rid of gender not support that statement? It’s because he’s pro-feminist and anti-masculinity. How can you advocate for society being genderless, but only call out the faults of one side? That’s not very honest or reasonable is it?

[@jeffersonhassan4558]

​@@ReelNinja1I think what the OP means by that is that he was the only one that at least supported some prompts that supports the feminist side of the debate

[@ReelNinja1]

@@jeffersonhassan4558 I know. I was responding to someone else

[@anonymousn5292]

Jubilee, please stop finding the fringiest, wackiest, weirdest representatives when you know damn well they don't represent their movement's perspectives. It completely ruins the purpose of the show

[@logangodofcandy]

Feminists all want special treatment and extra privileges without any responsibility. Men's rights activists all want laws to stop specifically targeting men and marriage/ divorce laws to not take money, property, and children away from father. It's all pretty simple

[@kcraulston]

It's on purpose...

[@j.ceasar]

Ariel 100% contributed more positively to the MRA movement than most MRAs have ever done.

[@MAJ4K]

I feel like they're based in California

[@AbdullahKhan-qg1fp]

The joke is unfortunately on us for assuming the purpose of the show is to actually see fair representation of each side to reach a reasonable middle ground. The purpose of the show is to generate clicks by rage baiting viewers into consuming their garbage content.

[@MomokaOra]

I love how one dude is oh I got stabbed, the other one is oh I got hit and what are the reactions? Nothing. This proves that yes, male pain is overlooked and nobody cares.

[@itsanelfboy]

What do you want them to do after hearing they got stabbed?

[@sw9923]

Because every single woman on that stage has been violated somehow at least once in her life. I can find plenty of men that HAVENT been physically hurt by a woman. Try to do the same for women.

[@sebmark2559]

@@sw9923 why are you bringing up the issues women face to devalue the equal issues that men face? It defeats the purpose of the debate

[@KaiiiYuh]

And who set that system up

[@irishronngararsdottir8820]

My father got stabbed in the back by one of his exes in a drunken argument and he was literally the one that got arrested when the police arrived, he did end up going to the hospital but they treated him as the attacker. On another occasion she hit him with a hammer, my brother was home when it happened. It's honestly disgusting how people dismiss violence against men, it definitely happens, even though on a smaller scale it still does and we need to take it as seriously when it does!

[@Lananani]

Not only is Ariel a feminist he is the most aggressive feminist on the set 😭😭😭

[@raghavnamasivayam8706]

Well it is itzeke

[@lucylee4366]

Are we mad at that

[@Lananani]

@@lucylee4366 are you?

[@arielvega6344]

​@@lucylee4366 It's unecessary in dialogue. It comes across as tone deaf.

[@lucylee4366]

@@Lananani no

[@zachmurray183]

Anyone saying men only want to see their children to spite their ex, is a literal lunatic

[@logangodofcandy]

And most feminists believe that crap

[@garynouban6453]

And feminists wonder why most people disagree with them

[@dudeorduuude5211]

That woman had terrible points.

[@JustChillin-el9wt]

They're projecting why they don't want the kids to see the dad.💯

[@savannahsingleton3359]

The custody segment was so bad all around. Terrible points from both sides. Immediately giving both parents 50/50 is a horrible idea and so is insinuating that men don't actually love their children. Where's the nuance? Edit for the people replying: automatic 50/50 is a bad idea because not all parents deserve or want that. It should be a case by case basis based on the material facts of each situation and not a given that you get custody regardless of your capability to care for your children. I also agree with the people who have replied that men statistically don't care as much. I have seen the divorce stats and am aware that most men who give up custody do it of their own accord. I was merely suggesting that it's a bad idea to use that as precedent to be uncharitable to all men, and that I do not think she was particularly rhetorically affective or concise in getting her point across. If you didn't already know what she was talking about you would assume she was just hating on men.

[@thenewnationpodcast]

Is it just me or is Ariel on the wrong side?

[@ghr8184]

Yeah, I'm only 6 minutes in, but everything he said sounds like a Feminist talking point, couched in Feminist-approved language.

[@j.ceasar]

I think he's just really rational in contrast to Pearl and this buff dude.

[@kcsclcjc]

💯

[@anna-sofiek.s.533]

yes, but tbh I'm glad there is someone on the other side to balance out pearl

[@RogueNeighShun]

49:30 he sorta calls himself out.. projecting his own stance onto others... when HEs the "bad actor" shilling on the MRA side.

[@soupsundying]

You got a men’s rights activist that doesn’t believe in gender. Congratulations Jubilee you always know how to pick em

[@therealgrimreaper68]

Men’s rights and women’s rights are not conflicting ideas and shouldn’t treated that way. Both sides have valid points.

[@kstephane1444]

Men rights activism is not a thing

[@mwyeh768]

They are as women won’t have the same duty / responsibilities to society

[@mwyeh768]

It’s equality without equal distribution of responsibility

[@yondaimesin]

Modern western Feminists will never feel that way and because of that most MRAs will hate them. We've had egalitarianism as an ideology and humanitarian political points but feminism is still trying to claim both sides when it's obvious it's female superiority in the west.

[@pneumaa]

@@mwyeh768oh brother

[@katlegosebogodi1374]

It's the constant sighing when Pearl speaks

[@Lord_Submissive]

😓😭😭

[@rturae]

Warranted

[@esaualfaro3447]

But the feminists are not violent btw.

[@CallMeLevels]

She contradicts herself and often rage bates, even though her talking points don't apply to her. "Women go to college and get useless degrees" yet she is a college drop out, has a podcast and often gets funding from her rich parents

[@Saiman9000]

​@@CallMeLevelsBecause those of us that are smart enough to use our critical thinking skills knows she was correct. Women are graduating more from college than men are. The degrees are useless in the sense that they don't do much to make society better. Like technology, math, engineering. Just because she didn't finish college doesn't mean she needed to.

[@bluey_mum]

Pearl is wearing a short dress, no sleeves with a cut in the chest and the OF lawyer is wearing long sleeve maxi dress and Pearl is saying the way she is dressing is for attention 🤨

[@ericb7776]

The OF model uses plenty of other time to show flesh.

[@BlackFighterz]

They do have different body types. So pearl can get away with revealing more while still seeming more modest

[@timothyofcox2450]

She also says there's nothing wrong with it. Why are you so defensive about it? Who hurt you?

[@ofanichan]

People genuinly believe that having big boobs just means you want attention. It is so ridiculous. Women with big breasts either have to wear baggy clothes or they're attention seeking sl*ts.

[@miojamo3977]

Well if you sell your body online for money you are not going to give that away for free lol... very bad business model.

[@brad1840]

Being a prostitute isn't being an entrepreneur

[@GBF_89]

💯 truth

[@papitasloup2119]

No one said it was

[@DarrenRiggs-dj4zw]

"a person who sets up a business or businesses, taking on financial risks in the hope of profit" would in fact include some sex workers!

[@GBF_89]

@DarrenRiggs-dj4zw what is the risk?

[@mikaylaskidmore888]

Ariel is really on the wrong side. He’s 1000% a feminist. He took their side on everything

[@joshday5321]

Bro (or assigned bro at birth) is just a Disney mermaids in the wrong body

[@TheGismono]

Your not wrong, But Feminists think that is equal balance having 5vs3

[@XxzXFearXzxX]

You can be a feminist and a male rights activist at the same time....

[@LUFFYLOVESLOFI]

There's another social branch that looks at men's rights from a feminist-inspired perspective, called Men's Liberation. It drifts away from the Us v Them, & tries to look at men's social issues from the inside, seeing it's a problem that's rooted from the patriarchy as opposed to blaming feminism. It doesn't oppose feminism, more so takes the talk away from women & actually focuses on men & their issues. He seems like one of those guys, though it's not responsible to glue him in with the MRA.

[@Josh-pw7ci]

@@XxzXFearXzxX $5 says ariel is a woman.

[@prozac234]

is that pearl LMFAOOO

[@Reddit.stories.reddit]

Should’ve invited Myron too to have the whole circus in town 😂

[@Wakuppeopletheywanttocontrolus]

W Pearl holding L women accountable

[@peter1135]

I CACKLED!! 😂😂

[@Foxhole-atheist]

I didn’t know she was still alive, cringe incoming

[@darkskinvince4380]

my exact reaction , im crying

[@Melting_because_of_beauty]

Arial is 100% a feminist, no debate

[@kingslayer3365]

You can be both, I think

[@conceptualelegance]

a higher iq feminist )) , borderline

[@denjii9]

i mean obviously but if you cant be a feminist and a mens rights activist at the same time doesnt that just mean that mra is a counter movement to feminism? if thats the case then why is mra centered around women when it should be addressing mens issues?

[@lun4r.h4ze]

I think so too. But he does fight for men’s activism. It’s almost like you can be both and feminism is for equality not just women. Educate yourself. You don’t have to hate women and disagree with the fact that women struggle to also care abt men’s issues.

[@DashNash-z7k]

He’s not. The patriarchy is the reason that MRA claim they’ve been having a hard time in society and the other MRA have refused to acknowledge that.

[@johnunderberg1996]

Ariel has not said one thing that is pro men's rights, he sounds more like a feminist than the feminists

[@NikkoBenson]

Had to turn this off after hearing them argue that men don't care about their kids. SMH.

[@pheebs818]

What is so damn frustrating to me with these discussions/debates is when people pull from personal experience and implicate entire groups because of it ...this woman in red with long hair did it constantly.

[@homiesmexual_bb]

Not all men, but the number of people who have had their dad abandoned them is staggering

[@kunpunko]

@@pheebs818statistics show other wise.

[@noname-x8y8k]

Exactly, women are more likely to not pay child support. Hot take: if gov assistance didnt exist women wouldn't use their children to milk the system.

[@kh9242]

Fascinating that the feminists think that all traits are a matter of nurture, not nature. Some traits are simply part of who we are as humans.

[@kvtiebug]

“We do not like fresh n fit” “I mean… Pearl does” LMFAOO 😭😭

[@Ndasuunye]

nah after that racist bit myron went down, she started pulling away quick.

[@BlaqAdam]

@@Ndasuunye no she didnt, she wouldnt even denounce nick fuentes and kept having him on

[@itachiovermadara]

And me

[@ammar3094]

@@Ndasuunyewhat racist bit?

[@BM_100]

​@@BlaqAdam Nick Fuentes did nothing wrong

[@helenb9971]

Took me all of a minute to realise this was actually 5 Feminists Vs 3 MRAs.

[@brendonslife4584]

you can be a feminist and an mra...

[@KingP103]

​@@brendonslife4584 nope.

[@Ludoovik]

I wouldn't consider Pearl a real MRA, a grifter who found a niche and exaggerate stuff to go viral.

[@Ludoovik]

@@KingP103 That's what egalitarianism is. We aren't as popular but I've found people that refer to themselves as egalitarian have pretty nuanced opinions on gender issues. They don't see human rights as a competition and a zero-sum game. Like we can bring up men or women's issues without always having to compare who has it worse.

[@LunarOverdrive]

@@KingP103 Explain to me what's contradictory between being an MRA and a feminist. Because the mens liberation subreddit seems to be a perfect combination of the two.

[@jordy_muhnordy]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2493">41:33</a> Apparently Pearl doesn't know what incentive means, why would having less custody of your children *motivate* fathers to leave the home?

[@gamefuler]

No she didn’t say that fathers are leaving the home because they believe in feminism she is saying females are pushing men out so they can get child support because feminism says they can do it alone.

[@loading...3190]

Because they feel that they are being pushed away

[@jordy_muhnordy]

@loading...3190 that's not what Pearl said though, she said that men being less likely to get custody of the kids IS the incentive for leaving the home.

[@WheresWaldo05]

Women intitiate at least 70% of all divorce. Closer to 80%. Women overwhelmingly make out in the court system for divorce. Then get paid alimony or child support. You get paid to leave. Hence, incentives.

[@ferferfoom6911]

I’m halfway through the video and Ariel has not said anything to promote men’s rights ☠️

[@MadMylesy]

I mean i think its mainly cuz his views arent actually extreme. Hes pro men, anti-stereotype.

[@caseypdx503]

As he said-only because of the overwhelmingly toxic perception and reality of the *online* MRA movement… Also as he said-the original, pre-internet MRA movement is much closer to his views than the others… IMO, he focuses on the very real mental/emotional issues that men face and he did discuss those here

[@IAmZanderStewart]

How can he be pro-make when he doesn’t even think gender is a thing 🤷🏻 make it make sense

[@EmmaAblett]

Gender is a thing in society at present but Ariel is a gender abolitionist so the idea is to work towards a genderless society, any other gender abolitionists feel free to correct me or chime in! ​@@IAmZanderStewart

[@2020_Visi0n]

When he said he sees us all as plants, my thought was the only "plant" here is you 😆

[@Nellynellz6]

Pearl: “what’s stopping a woman from getting an abortion?” Ariel: “laws” 😂😂😂

[@Minedream-mc]

I mean it's true

[@ammar3094]

Laws yet somehow they having abortions like its plan b

[@origamiswann]

@@Minedream-mcwhere

[@David-ol6zj]

How? Cloth hangers are available at every department store

[@Nellynellz6]

@@David-ol6zj you’re disgusting

[@etienneb.6956]

My IQ dropped by 15 points, thanks again Jubilee

[@vlastimil-furst]

Yeah, let's watch 3 more videos together and then we'll be pretty close to average and more easily able to deal with the everyday nonsense.

[@ammar3094]

Feminist dude saying men objectifying women while women next to him on OF objectifying herself

[@you_will_be_okay]

if men stopped the objectifying she wouldn't need to have OF in the first place. Instead of blaming her who's just wants to earn money, look at the problem of the core which is men viewing women as objects

[@ammar3094]

@ need to have OF?? 😂thieves and criminals only want to earn money too.

[@DarrenRiggs-dj4zw]

she would make no profit if men did not do such. plus, objectification is not a problem when it is optional, it is when it is forced onto women from a young age being seen as not a person with desires wants and needs but rather as bodies to be looked at and used. it is the lack of agency and consent that comes with the male gaze (men objectifying women) that is the big problem

[@ammar3094]

@ and drug dealers wouldnt make any profit if people didnt do drugs, i wonder who’s worse

[@alocatt]

Who created OF? And are women mostly watching OF models? I think not.

[@SomeFreeTimeActivities]

Crazy saying dads only want shared custody because it connects them to the woman. What an insane statement. She thinks men aren't capable of loving their own kids. That's pure hatred and she doesn't want to meet in the middle at all.

[@doit2810]

And to think she has "boyfriends", oh boy bless those guys

[@yessum15]

@@SomeFreeTimeActivities She's referring to a Harvard study that came out a few years ago which demonstrated that this is indeed the case in a significant portion of cases.

[@Jayderby2846]

@@SomeFreeTimeActivities what mark was this said at

[@HoneyBadgerRadio]

@@yessum15cite the study.

[@sunny_dance7266]

I think the way she said it is wrong, like all men who want custody have thos reason but this happens there is many tragic cases of men wanting their ex wife and sometimes it end in the woman's death. I hope she said there are cases or some do

[@limbotank4309]

Dude! Why is it 5 vs 3? They couldn't even find a 4th mens rights activist.

[@limbotank4309]

I also forgot to mention, This Episode Sucks!

[@jhonhoppins522]

Probably lmao

[@uknow24-m8d]

They needed Andrew Tate to be in there

[@kh9242]

That is how equality works in 2024

[@lcc6149]

The purpose of this video was to mock MRAs and promote feminism, so nothing surprising.

[@tiagoamarante2259]

I see 1 impostor

[@dave85104]

3v5 lmao

[@aguy9071]

Flower boy is probably the most lost person on the panel

[@Kiwonfu]

I'm a radical feminist, that ariel boy is more of a Liberal feminist than I am

[@kevindon2133]

​@@aguy9071 LMAO FLOWER BOY.

[@MAJ4K]

I have to watch the whole video before I decide but I'm 7min in, bro is sus

[@shh_ray_yeah]

the way i get irritated when pearl even laughs in this video let alone speak is insane💀💀

[@kiwio3o387]

Pearl not going up when the prompt was "Men should go to therapy" just shows she likes to be a contrarian and just wants attention/doesn't care about men in the slightest, by the way.

[@Mandelasmind]

Therapy is not a real solution for most men.

[@connorp3030]

talking therapy has been shown to be ineffective for men (for example it doesn't lower male suicidality)

[@DKREALFEEL]

Therapy doesnt really work that well with men - liberals want everyone to just BE women

[@andracatinca3778]

Can you give me a link to the studies?​@@connorp3030

[@DirewolfMemento]

Men need each other more than anything. Not to be psychoanalysis and put on anti depressants

[@ateitupper]

Whoever put Pearl on this, I hope both sides of your pillow are warm.

[@minaberric4069]

I know bruh I’m lmao at work 😂😂

[@videosruin]

why is that? idk her

[@palmer1290]

​​@@videosruinshe isnt a serious or sincere person. IMO, from everything I know about her, she cultivated an online persona to become an influencer and get clicks. This could be, and was, a productive conversation between sincere people.

[@Yusifmusif]

Why? Was pearl lying or something?

[@henrytep8884]

@@palmer1290they don’t call her miss lonely thing for a reason. I think most of her work is due to her own insecurities and trying to cope by choosing a belief system that allows her to cope. Maybe she thinks she’s ugly and that’s why she doesn’t have a bf or husband, but she comes off extremely grifty or extremely insecure and she isn’t that bright.

[@amberrose2424]

As someone who was kept from her dad by her money hungry mom and watched her father go into debt trying to fight to get me back, some of these people's opinions about father's really tick me off.

[@falconhoward4032]

always so dismissive about the mere possibility that men could have issues on a widespread level. They're too clouded in their own bias and victim mentality to realize they're being sexist

[@kenneyp.9456]

Most men take there Ls in private we don’t speak about them publicly or at all

[@michaelturley8222]

@@falconhoward4032 by far the most sexist group of people in society are feminists. If you just replaced everything they said with the word woman instead of men, and flipped it to some statement that could be critical of women, they'd think they were talking to a monster. Their so self-righteous and stuck in their bubble they aren't even aware of how hateful and disgusting their words are.

[@MichealSanders-xb8ns]

Thank you, Amber!

[@callnight1441]

Its not 100% false though. Many men will say "all I want is to start a family and have children" but then will do absolutely nothing to take care of their children and whe asked will say "no, thats womens work"

[@allanmeirelesdesouza1187]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="560">9:20</a> a feminist full of ressentiment; A OF woman and 2 feminist guys 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Amzing work Jubille, amazing work selecting those people.

[@allanmeirelesdesouza1187]

1:32:20 why the OF womam became a feminist,

[@Aisha-zy3ks]

Pearl : “you might say that you didn’t care about attention but I look at the way you behave and dress and it would indicate otherwise” Jazmen : “then you’re more scantily clad , why ? what are you looking for, attention?” Pearl: “💀💀💀💀”

[@bean6047]

@Aisha-zy3ks I missed this what timestamp? 😭

[@Se7nom]

I've seen the OF lawyer's instragram (would never pay for her OF). She is absolutely wanting attention as well.

[@ariannabadillo1387]

​@@bean6047at like 40:00 😭

[@bean6047]

@ariannabadillo1387 thank you 💀 it's giving me "I hate makeup" from that whatever podcast clip from the chick in full makeup; while the host foams at the mouth in a agreeal, not even realizing she had any on.

[@kimm.6818]

​@Se7nom yeah but she made millions off her attention. Pearl doesnt.....anymore haha

[@SFXD24]

It blows my mind The guy says I got stabbed and nobody batted an eye. Freaking crazy

[@tonyonaperky2128]

@@SFXD24 yup

[@michaelturley8222]

Which proves his entire point that we don't view men's pain as relevant. And there is a clear, unquestionable preference of women in society. The only people that don't see this are anti-men feminists. Hating or fearing men is a prerequisite for being a feminist.

[@SFXD24]

@@michaelturley8222 👍🏽

[@dons8363]

Absolute clown world we live in mate

[@brahmas1685]

Even worse they actively dismissed it because sexism against mean isn't as bad or "doesn't count" because it's not systemic. They can't even see how hypocritical they are.

[@nickman0421]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="570">9:30</a> Did she seriously say that the reason men want 50/50 shared custody of their children is because they want to "connect with their ex?" Seriously? Does the notion Dads loving their children not exist in her mind? I'd understand if the father had a substance abuse issue or other kind of problems. In general if a divorce happens, it's only fair the both partners have equal custody of their children unless other circumstances arise.

[@L12452]

She's a single, narcissistic mother. She needs to check herself

[@zining_90]

Yeah, I think she was the only bad apple on that side who had limited thinking when it came to the overall scheme of things.

[@SQUADEMPIRE]

She's is nuuuuuts

[@lch7876]

yes the hyena did🤣🤣🤣

[@grimsworld]

hatred is a core emotion that you can only hide for so long

[@gerardoventura4988]

Why did the goofball with the glasses pick the men’s rights activist side when he’s acting like feminist?

[@hilarycoyote]

This panel is unbalanced. Severly unbalanced. I'm just 5 minutes in.

[@ferferfoom6911]

It gets worse

[@hilarycoyote]

@ferferfoom6911 My Gods I'm 25min deep. Help me!!! Tell me to stop!

[@conceptualelegance]

and then there is editting ))

[@MAJ4K]

Ppl are saying 3v5... There's only 2.

[@jasonmeade955]

It doesn't get better. Probably because of the patriarchy (which is apparently the whole reason men have any problems at all, if Ariel is to be believed).

[@ceciliae4222]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1146">19:06</a> "Ive been stabbed" Why did we just ignore that?

[@Blueorange22]

tell me about it...

[@Gym4life1]

Because as they said, nobody cares.

[@mattat7]

That was so funny how no one on either side inquired about that

[@NikhileshSurve]

Thanks for that time stamp. I missed it myself. Shows how much society cares about men's well-being.

[@mariapineda8168]

It was to weird 😂 they always tell us women to choose better he probably chose the wrong one 😮😅

[@darko6115]

'Gender isn't real, we are just plants with complicated emotions" Yes... This was truly said in this debated 💀

[@alecsinger3364]

This.

[@NotaNinja]

That's closer to factual reality than what you thinking it is. Biology is complicated.

[@latenabeard3548]

we are actually plants with complicated emotions 🙃

[@DejiiJones_]

@@NotaNinja Get help..and the people who liked it are why society is failing

[@_dashyy]

@@DejiiJones_ most of the way men and women act is social conditioning. there is definitely a biological factor in there too but it is much less significant than most people are led to believe. men and women are very similar and really don't have that many differences at all. ridding society of gender will be nothing but beneficial for everyone but unfortunately that will probably never happen.

[@adrizaaryal]

It’s so funny seeing pearl slightly open her mouth trying to talk but then it’s clear she has nothing constructive to say 😭

[@adrizaaryal]

also pearl giving subtle remarks like she would on a podcast is hilarious

[@Eman-xp8or]

Bro this Ariel dude isn’t a man’s activist 🤣

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

I was searching for this comment. Ariel is a troll.

[@sagen06]

Bro had his mom name him after a mermaid. Thats tuff 😂😂

[@AdventureAryck]

😂 FACTS

[@j.ceasar]

He explained it super well here 50:10

[@j.ceasar]

@@marriagecausesdivorce7540 No, he's just not an anti-feminist MRA. He explained it very well at 50:10

[@edolls]

pearl is just rage bait tbh

[@Lord_Submissive]

lowkey

[@only_if_20]

it worked because i was mad everytime she spoke

[@MonkePants7]

It seemed she actually had a lot more personal experiences with some of these topics than most people on this list.

[@DevonWayne]

If Pearl is rage bait, you're just emotionally unstable. She never shouted, she didn't lie, and she remained calm and let people speak. If she is rage bait, you're psychotic.

[@sharpie6888]

@@DevonWayne If you don't think she's rage bait, you're delusional

[@spoopythings]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="564">9:24</a> Dude is she nuts? Does she think that men don’t love their kids, and only want 50% to be with the woman? The audacity and entitlement.

[@noname-x8y8k]

She's all about teaching her son about feelings, yet says things like these about men. Basically painting us as deadbeats.

[@BogowSyn]

She's a single mother 304, really not a surprise she's single mother

[@BogowSyn]

She fcked up her life and says how people should live xD

[@Canadakonnect]

Foreign women are the solution....

[@jovanleon7]

She's illogical and emotional and is a perfect representation of feminism.

[@oguima]

Wtf that impostor was doing at the man's rigths group lol

[@itsjustmeeeee23]

I can’t forgive Jubilee for reminding me Pearl still exists

[@jonathansurrey8230]

Cry harder, she's not going anywhere 😂 get used to it

[@akritasdigenis4831]

You most definitely look like Ariel😂 a beta with 0 testosterone

[@Nish.05]

​@@jonathansurrey8230 Yeah, she won't go anywhere. She will continue to grift her way to your bank account. Men are their biggest enemies

[@veronicasawyer.0]

@@jonathansurrey8230 woah! I’m sure your loads of fun at parties

[@Cosmicgiant5070]

@@jonathansurrey8230 pearl is not relevant at all. her shits been tanking for awhile.

[@nildaluzrodriguez]

When Pearl doesn't have an argument she attacks the woman's wardrobe and 'behavior'. Jazmin towards Pearl: (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2406">40:06</a>) 'and you're more scantily clad...why is that? What are you looking for, attention?' Ooouch!😂

[@He7290-y3r]

Exactly

[@katrinadebler5459]

Jazmin slayed with that honestly like pearl is the definition of a hypocrite. she preaches femininity and traditional gender roles but is always in male spaces being masculine and even worse NOT MARRIED lol

[@CallMeLevels]

Because she knows its true, pearls ideology does not match how she lives her life. She believes women aren't respected because they get easy jobs, yet she has no degree and has a podcast (rich parents that have funded her life style). She talks about women lossing value and not deserving a marriage after 25-30, yet she is almost 30. Everything she says puts her in a bad position as a women, this is because her points are more self reflection from a place that is rooted Male centering (in hopes of getting a relationship)

[@stevenator0281]

Jazmin makes the bulk of her money and spends most of her time on the internet without her clothes on. Pearl spends no time and earns no money from taking her clothes off on the internet. If you think that Pearl's outfit is revealing, then you are thirsty beyond belief.

[@vlastimil-furst]

Not to defend Pearl, she likes controversy. But Jazmen wears corset over her dress, to make her curves more visible. Is it deliberate? I can only guess it is. However, Nico and Thomas came to discuss, while out of 5 feminists, only Enitza seemed decent, the rest was a loud mob for the most part.

[@theorderofz]

Jubilee is slowly losing touch. The panelists have gotten worse and worse as the videos have gone on.

[@Ytaker]

They really should have tried to have more debate and not let it be 6 on 2.

[@keepinitreal1000]

Slowly..they’ve already lost it.

[@123paschal]

500,000 views in one day. I need to lose touch every day if that's the definition.

[@Xeraphos]

They haven't lost touch, they're doing it on purpose to get more engagement. More clicks = more views = more money

[@RandyAgard]

​@Ytaker you nailed it. 6 on 2

[@TheMazter14]

Jubilee you need to start fact checking both sides. You are making it very obvious where you sit on all of these topics

[@Christorment5]

Exactly!! The woman at 10:29 mark saying “what about all these men that don’t pay child support” 76% of men pay child support, 9% of men pay CS occasionally, while 15% of men don’t. When it over 60% of women that don’t pay child support at all. Easy google search jubilee.

[@Christorment5]

And the woman before that, that said “men only want custody to basically spite the child’s mother is insane 60 out of 100 men that fight for some form of child custody doesn’t receive any at all, jubilee didn’t put that fact at all either.

[@NelidaUtuwatu]

Jubilee, listen to the internet wiseman

[@tomv4]

🤣Fact checking is required only when someone states something demonstrably false. Don't be mad because your side is constantly lying.

[@NelidaUtuwatu]

@tomv4 you only believe that because you swallow every lie the establishment feeds you and continues to perpetuate 😒 that's why everyone hates the media, hates corporations, hates each other, too

[@godmode77]

wtf is Ariel doing in between the men's rights activists? with one look you can see he doesn't belong there, and than he starts speaking...

[@michael43567]

Not a masculine bone in his body

[@michaelturley8222]

It's like he thinks the fact he thinks men have some issues makes him a MRA.

[@rtaijahyches8834]

Watch towards the end

[@fluffyakara]

Saying you don’t think he can support men’s rights because of his looks is why no one takes mra seriously

[@limofootball]

​@@fluffyakaraHe's a fraud😂😂😂

[@lilfrezzy456]

Why is Andrew Tate still being talked about in 2024?

[@thepsychomagus]

The same reason there are morons that still listen to Hasan Piker, Anita Sarkessian or Zoe Quinn. They find their niche group that will listen to them and milk them dry of their cash.

[@mellowat]

fr caught me so off guard

[@chanestefano347]

Cuz he still famous and rich

[@matts5164]

Cause young kids and plenty of adults still listen to him

[@ritz_rr]

Because CONTENT

[@SwaroopUprety]

That one imposter men’s rights activist is cracking me up..he should be on the other side lol

[@krystallinum]

“We’re just plants with complicated emotions.” Damn I didn’t know I produced chlorophyll.

[@deannacobb5376]

blood* same difference...

[@sarahgreim7072]

it’s an analogy

[@coolkidrich777]

You do absorb sunlight to produce vitamins.

[@namastehindustan9879]

​@@sarahgreim7072it is wrong

[@namastehindustan9879]

​@@deannacobb5376not same

[@GruntMike17]

Ariel can’t be defined as a men’s rights activist when it doesn’t believe men and women are real.

[@TechGrubTV]

The guy literally said during the interview that he relates more to feminist positions but just sympathizes with the MRA cause... In other words... he literally said "I am not an MRA" but they still give him that label in the lower third title... Jubilee WTF

[@vstro_i]

calling someone an “it” is crazy. get a grip dude

[@ART0RIAX]

Dude was 100% a plant. I guess inviting Pearl wasn't enough for Jubilee to think that MRA had a big enough disadvantage lmao.

[@jaymann5180]

@@vstro_i Almost as crazy as calling someone they/them.

[@TheHailstorm77]

ARIEL IS A Beta male. He’s more a feminist. A lot of what he said is not even masculine at all.

[@Mila808g]

To Pearl, I have a question for you. If everything you say is true, then why are you still single and unmarried?

[@basedretard9003]

Her marital status has nothing to do with the validity of her claims, sure you could say it’s hypocritical, but that’s it.

[@nikkichowdhury7]

This ones pretty obvious. Her face.

[@LBFufuEata]

Because she’s below average and looks. She acknowledges this.

[@efiniGTX]

She can hold beliefs about a cause and not practice them. I understand that it may appear hypocritical, but there are many people who don’t practice what they preach. She can still recognize truths.

[@medea5235]

​@@nikkichowdhury7 That's not true because it's actually her personality, she isn't necessarily ugly.

[@RedChihuaha-xz7rt]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1900">31:40</a> If you go into OF you should know what youre getting into. Its seen that way because it is not a respectable way of making money. You shouldnt expect people to say nice things about that job. Its literally the online version of prostitution. Selling youre body online is something to be ashamed of

[@Lilliana_Reads]

doing my homework ❌ watching middle ground ✅

[@sairissreve164]

Please don't wait to the last minute LOL

[@katelynduerr]

literally procrastinating my history reading rn lmao

[@traycehinman]

Do your homework

[@ekkow787]

Same

[@logictified]

I was doing both. Just listening and doing it at the same time. I had to rewind just to rehear points that were being made.

[@Joshua-gc4ps]

I genuinely enjoyed the discussion until the 6 minutes mark where I realized I had been baited into listening to Pearl.

[@TrumpGirl8713]

Translation: I hate hearing differing opinions !!!

[@christopherbrown2706]

She had a great backstory, though

[@drfill7096]

@@TrumpGirl8713 We hate hearing someone lie.

[@SalimMalibari_Comments]

​@@drfill7096what did she do?? I never hear of her

[@drfill7096]

@@SalimMalibari_Comments She's one of those people who have built a career around propagating this devisive gender war thing.

[@volkswizard5897]

We Need conservative Mexicans vs Liberal Mexicans. Conservative Hispanics & Latinos vs Liberal Hispanic & Latinos.

[@Tequilacargadito]

I’m Mexican, that’s my nationality; born and raised in Guadalajara, and I got the feeling that you’re talking about the CHICANO community, which is not the same as the MEXICAN community. Being Mexican is not a race, it’s a nationality, and chicanos are AMERICANS who are the sons and daughters of MEXICAN immigrants. Unless you want a debate in Spanish, (or less commonly in maya or Nahua), I think what you mean is that you’re curious to watch a conservative vs liberal chicano debate. Mexicans and chicanos are not the same, it’s like saying that Mexicans are Spaniards or that Spaniards are Romans or that the Romans are Etruscans, or that the Etruscans are Hellenic peoples.

[@Wakuppeopletheywanttocontrolus]

@@Tequilacargadito thank you too many people think Mexican is one but it’s not lol

[@ramonserna8089]

I volunteer 🙋

[@volkswizard5897]

@Tequilacargadito cool 👍🏾 how about Conservative Mexicans vs Liberal Mexicans. Conservative Latinos & Hispanics vs Liberal Latinos & Hispanics. And Conservative Chicanos vs Liberal Chicanos.

[@logangodofcandy]

Race doesn't exist. Ethnicity does exist. There are multiple Mexican ethnicities, and yes, they are part of Mexico, because that's who those Mexicans are interacting with in those communities

[@charlesthorsbyii8037]

That should of kicked the dreadlocks dude after the second question smh

[@SilverSlayer]

This is one, big stereotype. Pushing their personal views as if everyone else views the same way.. Publicizing stereotypes as a battle ground is entertaining but will never be productive. None of these people are changing their opinion off of someone else’s personal truths verses their own.

[@ADanZLife]

I just hope people watch The Red Pill documentary by Cassie Jaye and they find actual MRAs like Paul Elam and Karen Straghan

[@cubbwatch]

Big facts. Personal experience will always be the main driver of someone's personal belief system. Debates like this are just efforts to push those opinions onto others and it doesn't work. I do however feel that when well-informed induvials come on to a public platform and share actual facts to back their proposed solutions, it can be very informative and enlightening if only for awareness sake. I do NOT believe that Jubilee is attempting to simulate the former, this particular episode was definitely curated for abrasive style entertainment more than a proper level of productive discourse.

[@kenich2611]

​@@cubbwatch debates since their inception has never served any other purpose than entertainment. It often polarizes people and it's always more about the performance of intellectualism than establishing mutual understanding as that's how it's structured to be. I find it hilarious when people pretend otherwise and when faced with reality act as if it's news.

[@chaoswitch1974]

​@@kenich2611Do you know what dialectic is?

[@jgee8421]

It’s for the audience always To understand different sides , to their test their logic and your own sides logic

[@joannaandros9580]

The nonconsequential draft?? This kid will be the first one crying when war breaks out. Unbelievable. Does he have no clue how many young boys have lost life and limb after being drafted? What a clown

[@noname-x8y8k]

If he lived in Ukraine he would't have a choice, he speaks from a priveledged position.

[@personanongrata8690]

Just a reminder: these draft rules that men like you often cry about was also made by other MEN! yes so maybe stop blaming feminists for laws your daddy made.

[@MikeRees]

Don't need to go to Ukraine even. They're based in the US, there are still people alive there with mutilated bodies and/or minds from being drafted

[@nevergiveupbaby1720]

Delusional, mens incel movement will never go anywhere. Keep crying about it

[@azoulas1]

@@noname-x8y8k The last draft for the US wasn't even that long ago and with how things are with Russia and China he might get to see one in the US in his lifetime.

[@user-jk9jz6hk8c]

Why is the guy with dreads even on the men’s rights side lol

[@Jayderby2846]

@@user-jk9jz6hk8c he can care about women and men's rights 👍

[@ADanZLife]

I just tell people to watch The Red Pill documentary by Cassie Jaye if they want to learn more about MRAs. Cassie Jaye stopped calling herself a Feminist after making this documentary. One reason is because of how she was treated by Feminists.

[@jessicamorgan5542]

@@Jayderby2846true feminism advocates for both men’s and women’s rights👍

[@miguelmedina8268]

Because he's a real male advocate.

[@SuperPerfection7]

I completely agree. Dreads is a feminist. The point of the discussion is feminists on one side and non feminists on the other, specifically mra.

[@albertbecerra]

There's no fcking way ariel ain't a feminist 😂

[@dkb2k]

This was just a blatant 3v5 from the start how did Ariel get on the Men’s Rights side?

[@j.ceasar]

MRAs realising that feminism and just pure gender equality isn't so different from eachother

[@myramakaripe]

MRA ≠ Anti-Feminist

[@amirrhodesve791]

​@@j.ceasarbut that's the things alot of the femists were pretty much dismissing alot of men's problems and not looking at it as a way for equality, as a way to uplift women's rights over men's rights.

[@InitialDraal]

​@@j.ceasar feminism isn't equality. Mra is so much closer to equality than feminism. Yet it isn't equality either.

[@putent9623]

Feminism isn't equality. Women have all rights men have. They have more wealth then men. They do better in school. They have access to all male dominated field with ease, while males don't have access to female dominated fields (with ease). Feminism is basically trying to give women a upper hand and disguise it as equal.

[@dbizzle85]

Afro dude 1000% texts women "grand rising queen" everyday

[@edwisongogo6326]

Big facts🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😅

[@JeromeProductions]

🤦🏾‍♂️😂

[@richpete]

And yet still they won't get naked for him

[@nevergiveupbaby1720]

We still like him more than we like you

[@nevergiveupbaby1720]

@@richpeteneither would most women for you, so take several seats.

[@stevenrogers2684]

Why is the long haired guy in the blue even on the men’s rights activists side? He’s basically sided with the feminists on every topic.

[@spidybat7658]

You can be for both men's rights and women's rights

[@stevenrogers2684]

@@spidybat7658 yet he don’t seem to be much for men’s rights

[@spidybat7658]

@@stevenrogers2684 can you explain futher

[@androphile]

@@spidybat7658 Dude, Ariel literally said "men have no rights to fight for". How can you call yourself a mens RIGHTS activist and believe that to be true. (Hint its not)

[@MaryamJibril-mo7bd]

​@@androphilewhat rights do men have to fight for? It just seems like you guys are fighting gender expectations

[@Jamaicanbroda202]

I feel bad for that mothers kids, she basically said they don’t fulfill her 😂😂 damnnnn

[@jay.jarosz]

I'm confused, how is Ariel a Men's rights activist? He seems to be arguing the opposite side.

[@Name-bn3vo]

He's a plant because this channel is a f u c k i n g joke

[@DP-gr7ko]

I don’t think he is, why does being a men’s rights activist have to mean that you are anti feminist?

[@Collabcreatemarketing]

​@DP-gr7ko It doesn't necessarily but in practise they are on opposing sides

[@gamerguy441]

@@DP-gr7ko if it sounds like a duck, and quacks like a duck. It is a duck.

[@tomvandeklok1376]

Yea bro how are you gonna argue for men’s rights if you don’t even think gender is real like what??? Im not saying you can’t be a feminist and MRA but this guy is actively AGAINST the idea of gender differences and that’s a big part of it

[@sergeduhazard4681]

so it s like 5 feminists vs 2 male activists and a clickbait scammy "activist"? huh?

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

Ariel is a fraud.

[@thehinduguy2888]

One is Feminist OF/lawyer

[@doit2810]

​@@thehinduguy2888Wait which one?

[@j.ceasar]

@@thehinduguy2888 Even an OF model can humiliate pearl 40:00 lmao.

[@inscription8099]

And the 2 male activists were the sanest ones.

[@rakarachmanda2712]

People seems to forget that you can actually accomodate both rights. Lmao.

[@logangodofcandy]

Feminism is advocacy for special privileges without responsibility. At no point can you have them both.

[@mikimarin2002]

​@@logangodofcandy please give me a few details. I would like a larger point of view of your opinion.

[@DayvorMusic]

True, it's called egalitarian, not feminist.

[@milka1150]

@@DayvorMusic Feminism is a reaction to the absence of egalitarianism.

[@claff4573]

Women are the only one's that have been truly oppressed by gender. Way different complaints on the men's side.

[@usafcop57]

This was so strange. The biggest feminist on the panel was sitting with the MRA's.

[@ChangBaek]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2032">33:52</a> "In my personal experience, men only talk to women they want to sleep with." Sounds like you need to be around better men, pal.

[@YuhasLol]

This dude was an obvious mole.

[@0165EM4971]

I took it as “I only talk to women I want to sleep with, therefore that applies to all men”

[@jasoncramer6717]

Yeah dude really needs to stop hanging around the kind of men he keeps talking about.

[@ZainR]

I'm curious how many guys and girls here have friends of the opposite gender and are platonic. I'm one.

[@ReelNinja1]

When he said that, I thought “what kinda closed minded circle is this guy in?” 😂😂

[@Deanna-o2b]

“Human shaped flowers”.. my brain immediately ignored everything said after this. I can’t help it.

[@SemajNewton]

😂😂

[@ChiagozieOkwor-wc9qi]

😂😂😂same

[@mayas4m]

sounds like a you problem

[@onebighoffy]

This is why i dont trust vegans. Taking plant based to a whole other level...

[@rachhlock]

the fact jubilee invites such key, problematic characters discredits the whole discussion they claim to have and its disappointing

[@JakeMyerz]

Does it though? They’re part of the community they’re in

[@mwyeh768]

Be quite

[@logangodofcandy]

Feminists are super problematic, but it's important to hear their sex based communist arguments.

[@msnewsenior]

@@JakeMyerzNo they aren’t, they’re the reason no one takes it seriously

[@ericbailey6779]

Are you mad because somebody didn't give you the echo chamber you thought they would?

[@omigb1]

why is ariel with the MRA? this guy brought nothing to the MRA side, he just kept talking down on men the ENTIRE time Lmao this convo was a joke

[@VishStarLive]

One is an imposter among Men's Rights Activists.

[@spamacc9754]

No? One of the men's rights activists isn't anti feminist

[@melanesianarrow88]

@@spamacc9754 Yea hes anti masculinity

[@skylarharley]

It's odd one out with middle ground 😂

[@spykeex69]

I'd say 2. Maybe 3 if you count Pearl twice

[@mattyk2676]

Two of them, actually.

[@allecgustafson1292]

That dudes a feminist not a male rights activists

[@debrabrower3864]

An activist wants equality. A supremacist wants to dominate. What are you advocating.

[@user-nv9vn8fm1d]

Why can't you be both?

[@Denice.67]

I said this too lol

[@HelenaBlack80]

Real men’s rights activists are feminists bc they understand that the things women are fighting for also help men. The problem is the likes of Pearl and her ilk aren’t advocating for men’s rights they’re just misogynists who use men as a tool to beat women.

[@Paxmax]

Calling him "dude" is pretty gender generous... his testosterone levels are probably lower than Perls.

[@meghan.ashworth]

Nico's shirt saying "Men lives matter" is so distracting lmao. Maybe "Male lives matter" or "Mens' lives matter" ??

[@Criner05]

Thank you! Grammar is lost on so many people.

[@alexgreene5864]

Didn’t notice until I read your comment 😂😂😂

[@Jirangaaa]

or just throw the shirt away

[@YuhasLol]

It's also disrespectful to the Black Lives Matter movement, though. It's disrespectful to co-opt an existing movement's slogan like that.

[@chunkyhunkypunk]

@@Criner05 If grammar wasn't lost to you, you would've corrected her "Mens' lives matter" with "Men's Lives Matter." Stay humble.

[@gabrielrod1330]

I like the way the reference women not being able to open a bank account on their own. But simultaneously say the draft is no a real issue. But what they are referencing and the last draft occur at the same time. The reference things from the 70s which is 50yrs ago, but for some reason thendraft that happened 60yrs ago isn't valid. Truth is women have all the same legal rights as men and the feminist are just arguing social norms. Oh and there's f ton of studies that say men prefer certain toy and same with girl, tf you think pink Legos are a thing why? Because the majority of people who bought Legos were boys.

[@ryankoch38]

The dismissal of the custody argument was wild.. I have an immediate relative who recently had a child and unfortunately the mother is mentally ill. The lawyers are telling him that it's not even worth fighting for full custody, and 50/50 is off the table too because "a baby is too reliant on the mother." They said he can have 2 hr supervised visits per week if he pays $700/month in child support. The whole situation is driving him to depression and all he wants is to see his kid, but I'm sure everyone will tell him how bad of a father he is for being "absent"

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

Is very bad

[@hitandruncommentor]

Pretty common story honestly.

[@RachelGerrard]

You think mentally ill mothers deserve to lose their children? He got her pregnant, perhaps he should try supporting her?

[@SacredTruthing]

​@@RachelGerrardAre you a Tard? If she is Mentally Ill...OF COURSE SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE THE KID...wtf is wrong with you?

[@thebiasedkpoper]

So just give up cause the lawyer said not worth it? 🤷‍♀️ Hire a better lawyer that cares.... They're a lot of lawyers who just want easy money.

[@mekareactsandreviews3026]

CORRECTION: REDPILL IS NOT MRA

[@dr.hiccup573]

YES! Say it louder for the people in the back. The forced association of Redpill with MRA has brought down the MRA movement. I’m so big on males rights but 99% of redpill people are in it for the wrong reasons with the wrong mindsets.

[@mirandawood2361]

Pearl being "pro-life" but then basically saying that women should get abortions instead of being a single mother is..... a wild perspective

[@cloud4011]

She never said they should. She said women have access to it and if they want to use it they can since… they have access

[@desirea33briana]

Miranda wood don’t listen well she never said that

[@TheGreyPillPodcast]

😂 cus she's a hypocrite. Clearly for the CLOUT n GRIFT

[@cloud4011]

@@TheGreyPillPodcast where did she say they should get abortions? Drop the time stamp.

[@mirandawood2361]

@@cloud4011 she talked a lot about how single mothers are a bad thing and how it's the woman's fault for being a single mother, then going on to say that they could've just gotten an abortion. Yet she claims to be pro-life, and pro-lifers are actively trying to take those rights away

[@accountname9872]

Pearl my dad died when i was 10, what bad decision did my mother make that made her become a single mother?

[@MPPG663]

Her dress is so short that she has to cross her hands over her lap when she sits. She really had the nerve to talk about what the OF woman was wearing.

[@motoracer528able]

I fought for custody of my son for over 2 years. Having physical proof and pictures of his mother doing drugs, among many other things. My son was abused and neglected for years while the courts did nothing. I'm a veteran, helicopter pilot, hold multiple degrees, and am currently in medical school. Married with two other children. I spent tens of thousands of dollars and only got custody of him bc she was finally arrested and went to jail for some pretty terrible things. She's now out and free awaiting trial for almost 2 years now, pays zero child support, and does the absolute bare minimum as a parent. Not even the bare minimum...

[@connorp3030]

Thanks for speaking about your experience It's a shame feminists don't care about people like you

[@siemei666]

I’m a feminist and I completely appreciate the work you put in for your child however the system that thinks it’s a better idea to leave children with their mothers is the patriarchy…. I think you’re mad at the patriarchy.

[@connorp3030]

@@siemei666 when mens rights groups have lobbied for split custody feminist orgs generally campaign against them

[@hypnos1078]

that bias would stem from the patriarchy if anything, this is a problem that stems from men and their ideas of what men and women's roles are inherently and the ideas they and sometimes even women with internalized misogyny reinforce/perpetuate

[@nevergiveupbaby1720]

You’re the one that chose to go in her raw. Take some accountability. Sound familiar? 😂😂😂

[@job0wnage]

It's a shame that because of the false dichotomy posed in most of the prompts, both sides feel the need to convince each other through statistics or other examples that their sides life on average is harder or more unfair in some particular way and that it is a zero-sum game. This narrative makes it difficult to acknowledge each others suffering, problems and obstacles which is an indispensable aspect of the process of healing and ultimately working towards solutions.

[@claff4573]

Feminists don't need to convince the panel that women were oppressed it's history.

[@picklesensei]

Exactly, the prompt "It's important for women to be mothers" should be changed with "its important for people to be parents "

[@christianbuskirk1471]

Yes, this is an issue that all debate type content can fall into. Pay attention closely to the tone, order, and word choice of each prompt to get a grasp the moderator's opinion. It may not be perceptible to them but we as the audience can tell who they favor.

[@baronn9809]

Womens suffering is acknowledged already

[@baronn9809]

​@@claff4573So were men your point?

[@FunkyFlip-YT]

They put a feminist in the mra group smdh

[@bobthebuilder3041]

You can be a feminist while advocating for male rights

[@danieln.6097]

@@bobthebuilder3041 No, you can't. Feminism is a destructive ideology to men, women, children & overall society. It's a male hating ideology which fights to elevate women's personal desires over the best interests of everyone else. Their aren't any real feminists. It's just a mask to give women unearned privilege & power. Fighting for equal power without equal responsibility is NOT equality.

[@antonn.mp4]

maturing is realizing you can support BOTH

[@LateNightChess]

@@antonn.mp4grow a brain

[@FunkyFlip-YT]

@@bobthebuilder3041 bro that feminist didn't even believe in male so how can they be a men's rights activist? Nice reach though

[@milero91]

Pearl being on is an instant turn off for me.

[@sincerelyst.6043]

Izecke clearly hates Pearl..like bro couldn’t even try to hide it

[@thisiscait]

Can't say I blame him

[@Cloudysun9]

A lot of people hate her. Including republicans 😅

[@Purplecrocodiles]

Most people hate Pearl. She’s insane. Women shouldn’t vote?! Divorce should be illegal?

[@edithbauer6676]

Well Nico seemed to share many opinions with her…

[@gbatista20]

Why should women vote if they aren't drafted? Why is divorce legal without a serious reason, just because?

[@Crkkyyt]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="208">3:28</a> nobody's gonna bash you bro just say woman

[@kh9242]

Those that identify as Women

[@alternativeaccount6568]

@@kh9242nah it’s a woman, those who “identify” as a women aren’t 100% girls

[@etherealnerd]

Why assume it's because he's scared of being politically incorrect and not because he just wants to be more inclusive? That's usually why people use terms like that.

[@dib327]

@@etherealnerdJust call them women.

[@Becksnnc]

Their argument is that because the father works to provide for their children so end up not seeing them often that must mean they don't care about their children and don't deserve to have custody? That's the stupidest thing.

[@beachlife127]

Women now work as much as men. Even in 2 parent households women are still expected to do all the child care responsibility.

[@PmknThgts]

@@beachlife127 A child will naturally gravitate to the mother for their needs because that is who they knew first. The baby was formed in the mothers womb. Knows the mother by scent at birth. It is nature. Do not blame men for that. A baby's first survival instinct is to find the mothers breast not the fathers. If a woman is not willing to sacrifice her "me time" then maybe motherhood is not for her and that is OK. Men should be willing as well but naturally a child's bond to their mother is stronger and they will seek her more to have their needs met unless she is unresponsive to their needs then the child gravitates to the caregiver who is. This does not mean that men are not important or should not sacrifice their "me time" if they aren't ready to sacrifice then they aren't ready to be fathers. They are and should do their part and help the mother if she is overwhelmed. It is important to establish expectations before marriage so that once children are involved problems do not arise. Find a compatible partner.

[@z-past1454]

@@beachlife127Not at all

[@TJay96]

@@beachlife127 So that’s an excuse to be cruel to men and not let them see their kids? Do you realise how evil your argument is?

[@Just_a_Lad]

@@PmknThgts my niece is closer and loves her daddy (my brother) a lot more than her mother, because her mother is often cold as ice and do not pay attention to her, do not play with her or talk to her much and my brother is doing all that plus more. As a result my niece often says "I love you daddy" plus she's sometimes telling me that "I love you uncle" but I have never heard her say that for her mother ... so mothers can be bitches too and their bond with their children could also be weak due to their apathy.

[@ProjectD56]

Being a top OF creator (and we know who becomes top OF creators and why), and at the same time NOT supporting the idea that women benefit from their sex and appearance is diabolical

[@pheebsspinks6768]

she was saying that they dont ONLY benefit. she blatantly said that she benefitted from it but there were also deficits