Flight of Dragons (1982) Final Showdown

Ommadon vs. Sir Peter.
Magic vs. Logic.
Guess who wins.
One of my all-time favorite scenes from any movie I've ever seen. I've loved this part ever since I was a kid and I've only ever felt more inspired by it as I've gotten older.
Just felt like I needed to share this little piece of me with the world. :)
Peter's "incantations:"
"A body in motion tends to stay in motion." - Newton's First Law of Motion
"Protons have 1832 times the mass of electrons." - 30 years later, more precise measurements say 1836 www.google.com/search?q=mass%2...
"All light is bent or refracted as it goes from one medium to another, save in a direction perpendicular to the interface between the two mediums." - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refraction
"...new species may result from the selective action of external conditions upon the variations from their specific type which individuals present...." - T. H. Huxley, to Darwin on Origin of Species
"Gravity varies as to the inverse square of the distance." - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-...
"The velocity of light is equal to the wavelength times the frequency of vibration." - This is actually true of anything that propagates as a wave as it's the definition of the phase velocity of the wave. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_ve...
"The geometrical properties of the space-time continuum are determined by the masses present in space and time." - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_...
"Come algebra, anatomy, astronomy, biology, chemistry, geology, geometry, mathematics, meteorology, mineralogy, oceanography, paleontology, physics, psychology, sociology, trigonometry, and zoology!"
Flight of Dragons is (c) WB 1982

[@Turbocharge86]

I love how he states that his logic is stronger than magic. And then his logic forms a magic shield to protect him from the flames. Man, I miss the eighties.

[@stevepalpatine2828]

It's not really a magic shield, it's just the representation of his disbelief. It's his disbelief that shields him, he doesn't believe in magic so it can't effect him.

[@crisalcantara7671]

@@stevepalpatine2828 basically his sciences powers are anti majic

[@ThePhantomStinker]

The one blemish on an otherwise great scene. The biggest problem is that one of the very first things he learned was the science behind dragon fire. So his logic repels something that IS logical.

[@stevepalpatine2828]

@@ThePhantomStinker That wasnt a dragon though. It was some shit Ommadon conjured. If Breeagh had lit him up it probably wouldnt have worked but it was Ommadons Wizardry rather than an actual dragon.

[@stainlesssteelfox1]

He basically made his will save to disbelieve Omadon's spell effect. Lucky it was Illusiion and not transformation magic.

[@BYERE]

Explain a film ending badly: “Old man dies during science lecture”

[@ES21007]

"Nerd kills old man with science lecture."

[@isn0t42]

Zoology did it.

[@kazmosis5326]

Word game ends in tragedy as science moved to alphabetical order, lawful good whilst magic chose the random sequence panic summon, chaotic evil lol

[@leonardo899]

Psychology is not an exact science. It's as much a made-believe thing as magic.

[@cesarmorales9138]

He doesn’t exist no more 4:33

[@lockwoan01]

"I guess Logic is stronger than Magic." "Strong than My Magic? (Evil Laughter.)" "Sociology!" "AHHHHHH!" (Burst into flames.)

[@critter30002001]

Along with every college freshman assigned to that class

[@vickibarbosa5641]

Sociology is barely a science.

[@lockwoan01]

@@vickibarbosa5641 We'll blame the 80's for this one.

[@Samuraith2077]

Way to create a troll comment sociology pfft yeah whatever..

[@lockwoan01]

@@Samuraith2077 yep.

[@Archone666]

"Nothing so horrible could be real." *Digger wasp pauses in the act of planting her eggs in a paralyzed spider so it can be devoured alive by her young, glances over at the zombie fungus that has taken over yet another ant* "Did you hear him too?"

[@Passions5555]

I don't get why this has not gotten any up votes yet. 😱

[@KingOfGamesss]

I DENY YOU!

[@johno1544]

The universe has more horrors in store then any human could ever imagine.

[@KingOfGamesss]

@@johno1544 I can imagine some really horrible things

[@okaberintaro2271]

@@Passions5555 Clearly we were the chosen few

[@NafNav32]

When I first saw this at age four, I just thought it was cool that the wimpy intellectual defeated the evil wizard-monster with brains alone. Years later, while watching with kids I was babysitting, I found myself sympathizing with Omedon: I now know what all of Peter's words mean. My head may also explode...

[@AngelEmfrbl]

Its because the Red Wizard who represents basically lies and corruption was beaten by truth.

[@natejpc]

I will always respect James Earl Jones for just giving his goddamn all into this film. Absolutely no need to, but my word, he went for it.

[@lar_s]

God I hope he had a fun time doing this role because it's INCREDIBLY fun and gratifying to listen to. The other voice actors were delightful as well of course, but yeah there's no denying he was far and away the true MVP. dude went ALL the way off

[@reubenguttenberg7405]

@@lar_s Darth Vader and Mufasa

[@Slappap]

Thanks for pointing that out to me. Didn't know.

[@67nairb]

He did a magnificent performance in this cartoon special.

[@loadeddice4696]

@@reubenguttenberg7405 He also performed in Dr Strangelove

[@patrickthehenchman2679]

Of all the ways I've seen a villain be defeated, being tricked, being killed through brute force or violence, having them kill themselves whether intentionally or not, destroyed by the power of love... but this is the first time I've ever seen a villain who was literally defeated.... by being EDUCATED to death.

[@zacharyfindlay-maddox171]

[@clumsyzombie3144]

You could say that Peter literally SCHOOLED him. I'll see myself out...

[@IndigoIndustrial]

@@clumsyzombie3144 "Taught him a lesson?"

[@clumsyzombie3144]

@@IndigoIndustrial Yes, exactly! 😂

[@Hagashager]

Based scientist puts Dragon in his place with FACTS and LOGIC

[@zeriul09]

i thought this was great when i was a kid, watching it again as an adult, this just makes me sad for him, having to deny the very thing he loves in order to save it :(

[@Gigas0101]

Part of what makes us adults want to share this with the next generation, eh? That And that deeper understanding of that which gave us so much joy when we were young?

[@zeriul09]

exactly, happily my kids will sit and watch cartoons with me as most of the modern ones are 'boring' by their estimation

[@fascistswan3470]

He didn't just deny magic he affirmed who he was, a man of science, logic, and reason.

[@Terastas]

What's worth noting is that he only denied magic itself, not everything that was ever once thought to be magical. All of his allies survived because their magical nature had some logic behind it. Ommadon went out of his way to deny any sort of logical order, so all he truly had was trickery of the mind. It's never clearly stated, but I'd like to think the reason he shriveled up into dust at the end was because he realized even his own continued existence for untold eons was a trickery performed upon his own mind, whereas the other three wizards would probably lay out all the details of a "magic spell" that translates into diet and exercise.

[@wii1245]

Fascist Swan aka a Muggle.

[@shadowdroid776]

He, quite literally, scienced a man to death. Out of all the things I remembered from my childhood movie, that I forgot.

[@AngelEmfrbl]

yes and no, the thing that he did was Peter spoke the truth, Ommadon spoke nothing but lies.

[@zettozettomer2640]

I mean, to be fair, man has spent much of it's history finding ways to out science each other to death.

[@kylestubbs8867]

⁠Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t that “out-sciencing” part of Ommadon’s plan from the start? Let humanity advance their pseudo-magic, their armored steeds and spells of flame… to the point that a few humans driven by greed, pride and wrath could lead to all of them getting destroyed. His plan would’ve involved such small amounts of dark magic, if any at all, that Ommadon never had to consider the threat any human posed to his whole heaping mass.

[@cozyball7804]

That's quite a great defeat of an evil villain.

[@zacharyjones1023]

I love how this movie basically show that magic and science need each other, although magic is basically meant to be human imgination, our abilty to dream and be inspired to make creations and build wonders, which is what truly seperates us from any other animal. when it's said maigc must not die, it means imagination and dreams must not die, becaue with out imagination, dreams and inspiration, we are really nothing, our Science stops to grow and change.

[@DragoX7]

YES someone gets it. That lesson is one of the reasons this movie is my favorite movie.

[@Dragonrose36]

"Man hears of the dragon's invulnerable skin, and lo, he makes armor, battleships, tanks. The fairy flies, and furiously jealous, Man himself defies gravity with machines he will call airplanes. The magician gazes into a crystal and sees and hears halfway across the world. 'Ah,' says Man, 'if only it could be so!' And centuries from now, he conjures up miracles, but calls them radio and television. If Man is to surmount the insurmountable, he must always have magic to inspire him. The world needs magic. Magic cannot die."

[@danniellegeorge1464]

You are correct inspiration of the unknown will always makes us want more but we should never forget where we were. Or we may lose our way

[@efaristi9737]

bold to assume animals have neither imaginations or dreams. It has like never been proven.

[@Briselance]

@@efaristi9737 Bold to assume theirs is even comparable to ours in anything else than pure principle. Our imagination creates universes, dreams of intricate complexity and randomness. Our depth of perception makes this something we can perceive. What can animals perceive? What memory do they have, save maybe the elephants and some species of whales? What complexity can they process?

[@jessicasanchez880]

omg. He listed them in alphabetical order! I never noticed that before.

[@ashtonpeterson4618]

Huh. That's even cooler. How did you notice that?

[@kazmosis5326]

It's basically order vs chaos so naturally it'd be alphabetical

[@WendyWinchester]

Oh, holy shit! He did!

[@NWguy83]

"Neeeeeeeerds!"

[@ChibiLiet]

"Seven heads and each one a simpleton." Love it.

[@sebastianemond5313]

"Don't you know that what you're reaching for is no longer there?" "The Sun is the *Sun!* I can see where it is!" "Where it *was,* pipsqueak! Any school boy knows that light travels 186, 300 miles per second. What you see is the Sun's position 8 and ½ minutes ago."

[@o0DnDing0o]

Sir Peter of the sick burns

[@kylestubbs8867]

@@sebastianemond5313 Wow. I guess I was never a schoolboy.

[@sebastianemond5313]

@@kylestubbs8867 "No magic but *mine* can move the Sun! I COMMAND IT!"

[@mondenkindqueen]

Not, magic, gashead. Mathematics. And that’s the answer to why Antiquity chose me. Your magic, mere illusion.

[@FrankMillersEvilHat1]

Holy shit he talked the villain to death O_O

[@itfigurescomics6704]

Like a Bard in DnD XD

[@steerpike66]

Death by mansplaining.

[@hobbesthegoblin]

S-Steven Universe?

[@JonJonJonJonJonJonJonJon]

My wife holds this ability also

[@TheFrugalVideoGamer]

Give "Unico in the Island of Magic" a watch - that little unicorn was even more effective than the Care Bears at caring the enemy to defeat!

[@CreeperKiller666]

The fact is, Ommadon was right. His magic is the magic of fear, and logic is NOT stronger than fear. Fear has the power to make people forget logic and act absolutely irrational, even in the modern world.

[@loadeddice4696]

This is a film about how courage and clear thinking can overcome any evil. That's a good thing to keep in mind, whatever challenges you face in life.

[@jamesbevan9939]

Never considered that.

[@captin3149]

Logic has the ability to destroy fear if you look at it from a different point of view. It destroys illogical fear. Just a couple hundred years ago people were afraid to go out at night because evil spirits and witches. Now we have rave parties at night. Logic has dismissed MANY things that people were afraid of. Fear still exists, but no magic that deliberately invokes fear.

[@undergroundalienstudios56]

But logic can overcome fear as well, right? That's the part about being human that makes us special. We can understand our fear in deeply profound way that other animals just can't. And as we understand it, we learn to appreciate and accept it for what it is. And then it loses sway over us.

[@kesudor]

I’d disagree and say that fear comes from ignorance, so actually logic and understanding would be key in defeating fear. Giving Sir Peter the advantage over Ommadon.

[@Trip_Fontaine]

"I deny all magic." gives me chills every time. This is one of the most profound scenes ever made in a movie intended for children.

[@Zaxares]

When I watched this as a kid, at that moment I didn't understand what it was that Peter was giving up by denying all magic. It was only a few minutes later when the remaining wizards explained to the group that by denying all magic, Peter was essentially giving up all of his friends and his love. Needless to say I was very very upset right up until the closing moments of the film. XD

[@briarrose79622]

I'm truly amazed this is a kids movie to begin with. I've watched Rankin and Bass movies since I was small and as an adult I am somewhat surprised I didn't wind up more weird than I already am 😂

[@rowanseaman9637]

Sir Peter is my favorite "Um, Actually" guy

[@remembering-chris]

Sir Peter lists his 'incantations' in alphabetical order. That is class.

[@stainlesssteelfox1]

A villian saying 'I am victorious!' during a battle is roughly equivallent to saying, 'Fates, please kill me.' Adding 'I am invincible!' is standing on a mountaintop in a thunderstorm holing a big metal spike up in the air and saying, 'The Fates are dickheads!'

[@KingOfGamesss]

It's called Over-Confidence

[@SaviorGabriel]

Ommadon: "I am invincible!" Fates: "We're about to end this man's whole career!"

[@PeteTheGrouch]

...so, what happens if you just straight-up say "The Fates are d*ckheads" - do you get a cookie instead?

[@MadTurnip]

You never say that! Along with "Think we've lost them" and "At least it can't get any worse".

[@dwarrow25]

I know this guy who said “I am inevitable” and it was the darnedest thing.

[@katilynmonnier1837]

"If you deny me, you deny all magic." Oh that must have been hard for Peter to give up...

[@ElvenRaptor]

Being the hero means the biggest sacrifice.

[@mkaplan1383]

@@ElvenRaptor No matter what outcome you try to achieve even achieving the outcome for the greater good, remember this that all choices have consequences....

[@C.G.Gaster]

John Constantine: "If there is one thing I've learned over the years there is no happy endings. There Never are. There's always a price to pay." Chas Chandler (His childhood best friend): "No price is too high for my little girl." John Constantine: "Tell me that after you've paid it mate."

[@juliofigueroa9217]

@@ElvenRaptor Ouch

[@ElvenRaptor]

@@mkaplan1383 Well said. That's why heroes are so rare. The kind of will it takes to make the choice and suffer those sacrifices is exceptional strong and too few possess it.

[@BrenTenkage]

I think I understand why he lost His realms are that of fear and darkness, his power comes from the fear he creates, the more you are afraid and believe his magic the more powerful he is, however Peter denies his power and magic calling it mere illusion. His magic could not affect him, shattering Ommadon's spirit and power, and therfore existances. That is why Peter won.

[@geovaughan8261]

Peter wasn’t afraid because fear, superstition and belief in magic come from ignorance. As a scientist, Peter devoted himself to knowledge, and because he understood the truth of the world, he had no fear of Ommadon, and so magic could not touch him.

[@conor.3875]

Ommadon is only as strong as you allow him to be. Deny him, and he is nothing.

[@Raythe]

Our government right now

[@user-ne8hk8nj2d]

We can summarize this with one line: Fear is Mindkiller

[@slumbertrap6506]

Lol if he did that to Sauron he would be a red puddle on the pavement.

[@Darkman9000]

Puts "getting schooled" on a whole new level.

[@silverwurm]

4:32 NO! PLEASE! ANYTHING BUT SOCIOLOGY!!!

[@BojanTeodosijevic]

Man, this comment had me laughing for over a year. Thank you so much! :D Now I can never unsee it whenever I watch the cartoon.

[@Nonamearisto]

Sociology was not as messed up in 1982, when this was made. It is now. If anything, saying sociology and to a degree, psychology, would strengthen the beast. The other stuff would destroy it.

[@shionkreth7536]

Me, a sociology major: You grow accustomed to such reactions...

[@ramsackdude]

yes it did seem to be the one to finish him off all the others were just highly irritating

[@stevepalpatine2828]

Sociology and Psychology are pseudoscience. Belief systems no different from magic.

[@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin]

This is the single most euphoric cartoon ever.

[@madnightguard6296]

"I feel euphoric"

[@junkenst8281]

@@madnightguard6296 beeps bedora

[@guntcheck]

"The sun is the sun!" Reminds me of "Tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. You can’t explain that. You can’t explain why the tide goes in."

[@Archone666]

I had to look up that quote... yeah, I can see Bill O'Reilly saying that... @.@

[@dweebteambuilderjones7627]

The Moon: "Dude."

[@kylestubbs8867]

“Seven heads and each a simpleton.”

[@steerpike66]

Having not seen this in thirty years, I'm delighted that the animation is still very elegant. A little stiff, but the drawings look very well and there are many fine, fluid moments. So often the treasured memories of your childhood turn out to be slipshod trash.

[@MultiSmokeBomb]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed that as a student of graphic design I have to say that the animation quality and even the motion in the animation is actually really really smoothly done for how long ago it was done. Circa 1982 I believe

[@tradesmanjaegs4992]

I grew up on this movie. I have yet to meet a single soul in person who has seen it.

[@mr6johnclark]

“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”. - Arthur C. Clarke

[@tbotalpha8133]

Any sufficiently studied magic is indistinguishable from technology.

[@morescodesup2087]

@@tbotalpha8133it was the same thing the whole time :o

[@christopherwall2121]

@@tbotalpha8133 - Agatha Heterodyne

[@mmmmmmmmm95]

No me interesa lo que piensa ese drogadicto, los milagros y talentos no son tecnología, ni tampoco los ateos que se convierten en cristianos, la ciencia no puede medir y cuantificar la gravedad, la inteligencia o el origen de los humanos, no porque sea magia, son fuerzas absolutas que la ciencia nunca podría comprender.

[@pikppa]

It depends from interpretation from the single author... but that's usually not true. Magic and technology works differently because technology is bound by the laws of nature, physics and REALITY even when it bends them to its will. On the other hand, magic can literally surpass and rewrite the laws of reality, even if it has to obey some other laws (usually). But in the end, since magic doesn't really exist, it's all a matter of an author's perspective.

[@jacobcox4565]

He literally defeats the main villain with facts and logic.

[@toddlindsay8846]

He “Sheldon”ed Ormidon

[@jacobcox4565]

@@toddlindsay8846 You could say he schooled him.

[@kellylingro3288]

I absolutely love when Omedon starts listing mythical beasts

[@davidduenas4131]

That part gave me goose bumps

[@toddlindsay8846]

Cuphead Mugman Beepi Cagney Three studs Diceman Ribby Croaks

[@Khajitxi]

"Nothing so horrible could be real" Somehow I doubt that. Nature exists to find new ways to be horrifying.

[@MetalSonicMkIV]

He's never been to Australia.

[@wii1245]

MetalSonicMkIV or Arendelle.

[@christalkscrap6889]

The only true monsters in this world are Human Beings.

[@hater105]

@@christalkscrap6889 Botflies would disagree.

[@ChibiProwl]

Like a cockroach or black mamba for example.😮

[@frankdodd3355]

"Any school boy knows..." - Not anymore.

[@horusrage]

Yeah I wish they did.

[@steerpike66]

Now it's any second year Physics student.

[@Ghostwolf82]

Sad but true.

[@jackajct]

Any school boy form out time knew that lol. Now they just google it.

[@kainariylius392]

Even currently, some students aren't aware of such basic knowledge.

[@loszhor]

One note about this clip, I wish it had that final part where he said he would still be there in some form. I liked that part, it was more of a "wonder will still exist to be explored" or "life will still be full of magic even with science". I was a surprisingly uplifting message from a villains final words.

[@veryvintage9443]

I assume that’s from the book and not a deleted scene?

[@ricohard1986]

But it's also a warning, that logic, science and technology can be turned to evil just as magic could be. Science can give credence to ideas like eugenics that can lead us into dark places as easily as any corrupting demon. Technology can give us power, light and freedom but it can also make bombs that burn hotter than any dragons fire.

[@AngelEmfrbl]

I think it was implied early on, that evil is part of their world of magic no matter what.

[@epiccollision]

James Earl Jones voices haunted my nightmares as a child, I only connected the voice to the kindly gentleman attached later it was a great surprise.

[@mayorlight]

The time Jack Tripper defeated Darth Vader...with science! I loved this movie as a kid, and knowing now that two of my favorite actors were in it makes it all the more awesome.

[@Kev95682]

Peter is okay, but Sir Orrin had the most epic lines in the film.

[@captainspire9094]

The moment where calculus STILL doesnt save your life

[@firebird77clonefirebird89]

no, math DID save him. Zoology was the coup de grâce.

[@Rekaert]

"That's why antiquity chose me! You are magic, mere illusion. I am science, logic and the truth!" - Is then protected by an inexplicable shield that looks suspiciously magical.

[@Kingofturves]

It's the boundary between fantasy and reality.

[@stevepalpatine2828]

Yeah that was kind of a poor art choice. It should have just shown the flames having zero effect on him, because they weren't real.

[@mr6johnclark]

n 1962, in his book “Profiles of the Future: An Inquiry into the Limits of the Possible”, science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke formulated his famous Three Laws, of which the third law is the best-known and most widely cited: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic - In this case it's one and the same.

[@sebastianemond5313]

@@Kingofturves They did say that magic would be protected and separated by their *Magic Realm,* where they wouldn't be able to interact with reality, logic, and science, but they could at least inspire future generations.

[@kylestubbs8867]

@@mr6johnclarkThat _wasn’t_ technology, though. You could say it was the border between reality and fantasy… but it didn’t look solely fantastic on the outside. If anything, it’s like a shield of carbon dioxide that robs a blazing inferno of its oxygen.

[@gedonckers]

The last minute or so mirrors every physics class I ever attended (the students reacting just like Ommadon).

[@russell5078084]

Great movie. John Ritter did an excellent job voicing his character.

[@dylanfix9118]

what I kinda liked is, though peter fancies himself a scientist, he still clearly didn't want to deny ALL magic, the look on his face when Ommadon called him out "SAY IT!" peter was like" ah! FUCK! now I have to deny dragons!...sigh...FINE!" and then bitch slaps ommadon with the big book of science...would have been perfect if after ommadon turned to dust if peter was like "and I had my fingers crossed!...BITCH!"

[@mastermichaeldunchok]

Dylan Fix He did. Because he awakened Melissaunde with a kiss.

[@dylanfix9118]

Mike Dunchok yeah, but isn't he banned from staying in the magic world because he denied all magic? I mean I haven't watched this movie since I was like...5-6ish (22 now)and if I remember correctly, the green wizard guy, says peter cant stay because he denied magic, and that kinda sucks ballz if that's the case

[@mastermichaeldunchok]

Yeah, but when he hears that he awakened Melissaunde with a kiss, he says, "then perhaps he isn't totally lost to magic after all".

[@dylanfix9118]

Mike Dunchok h yeah, I remember that, still, I wish they made more cartoons with this kind of art work....its very fitting if that makes sense

[@MrOrcshaman]

+Dylan Fix The metaphor for peter denying all magic, is him realizing that for logic to prevail, all things in fantasy have to be denied as real, this INCLUDES all the good in fantasy along with all the evils in it. That what he had to accept, like with all atheists, we all had happy memories of pleasant things from our childhood, father christmas, the easter bunny, the tooth fairy, but the same fantasies brought about demons and ghosts and monsters under the bed. Peter choose to accept logic, and deny all the good and evil in fantasy as being real.

[@chasjetty8729]

Man, this movie was a masterpiece. I wish every kid on earth could see this at the right time in their life.

[@waqarbinwaqas9537]

Itis quite interesting to how they managed to illustrate that the more logically/objectivly you think of life the less magic/inspiration there is out in the world. Truly beautiful and poetic

[@TheJboy88]

I loved this movie as a kid. Back when Cartoon Network used to air it once a month or something it was one of my favourites. Then they made the ludicrous decision to not show it anymore. Now no-one does it and kid's entertainment has been all the poorer for it.

[@shedtalkwithc.j.buchanan9112]

Truth

[@galaxydeathskrill5607]

I'm a living proof, I've never seen it, known of it thanks to the internet

[@FBoobieTubie]

Unfortunately Sir Peter's belief in science ,( without leaving room for imagination and wonder in his heart and mind) has made the Nothing stronger and led to the destruction of Fantasia and the Child-like Empress. Calling all the Bastien's of the world, let's all make a wish!

[@floridferret4585]

*slow clap for genuine cleverness*

[@McSuperfly101]

FBoobieTubie - I think he also accidentally killed Tinkerbell.

[@Nonamearisto]

Actually, no. Peter may be a man of science, but he also has imagination. Nothing says you can't have both.

[@robokill387]

how does science leave no room for imagination and wonder? Honestly, I think it *increases* wonder.

[@BYERE]

MOON-CHILD!!!!!!!!

[@jbevan70]

The role of Ommadon has to be James Earl Jones at his hammiest.

[@Zartoo_3rd_Overlord_ofBlargon7]

Yeah but he's got the voice to pull it off.

[@BYERE]

In fairness, to play a role that silly in such a serious manner, you kinda have no choice but to chew the scenery

[@crisalcantara7671]

hmm😏ham,i like ham🤣🤣

[@lar_s]

man acted with his WHOLE CHEST. he fucking killed this role, didn't have to go this hard but he still did. Love him for that

[@emiraven]

When permitted, I show this to my students. Thanks for the clip! "Come Anatomy, Astronomy...." Omadan challenges him: "Deny ALL magic?!?" .... The scientist isn't sure. 40 years on. Well played. And thanks for sharing.

[@setheheart4911]

I love how he screams after Sociology. Damn son, the classes weren't that bad! Chill out! We haven't even gotten to organic chem!

[@Martialartfruituser]

The movie has a palidin kicking a dragon's ass by throwing a sword while standing through fire. HOW IS THIS FIGHT MORE AWESOME THAN THAT?!

[@JnEricsonx]

Meanwhile the paladin KNOWS he's gonna die,he's just not going by himself.

[@MyoclonicJerkCough]

"Nothing so horrible could be real." Peter obviously hasn't browsed the weird side of youtube

[@MrDibara]

Or read Lovecraft. EDIT: _Sorry. That was terrible._

[@slimjim877]

Or tumblr

[@hater105]

Also; he failed to mention Entomology, funny, considering how horrific the insect world actually is.

[@kuanged]

Sir Peter hails from the early 80s and hasn't seen the last 40 years.

[@sayhansaberchowdhury7114]

@@kuanged Its a joke....

[@pikppa]

"I HAVE GATHERED THE SUM TOTAL OF ALL WORLD'S EVIL IN ONE PLACE AND THAT PLACE IS ME! I AM INVINCIBLE! NO MAGIC IS STRONGER! I AM THE WORLD AND THE WORLD IS OMADDON!!!!"

[@crisalcantara7671]

one of the best villian lines ever

[@stevepalpatine2828]

You mean NO MAGIC IS STRONGERerErerEr

[@mathar9756]

He is just impersonating Soros.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

Determination, killing magical monsters since the 80s.

[@Lucasfan375]

Death by knowledge. Awesome!

[@i39darkblade]

Knowledge is power

[@Maximara]

Except it isn't as the whole thing shows *ignorance* os what Science even is.

[@StardustLive5]

Darkblade(The Prophecy) itty bitty little space. XD

[@ryanlake3261]

That is John Ritter's voice as Peter Dickenson

[@eroraf8637]

Can we talk about that organ in the background near the end? Gives me chills.

[@nor4205]

It's an distinctive sound that gives me instant nostalgia

[@zacharyfindlay-maddox171]

Haven't seen this since I was a kid in the 80's, what a trip!

[@ZackofSpades]

Arnold Perlstein over here using everything Ms. Frizzle taught him.

[@emmdeeDM]

I love it how he screams when Sociology was mentioned.

[@SCP01986]

This movie was before it's time, kek.

[@EngineerMK2004]

That's not a real science, so I think that would have strengthened him.

[@oomusd]

@@EngineerMK2004 of course Sociology is a real science. It uses scientific method (observation, theory and then experimentation) and it's subject of study is the social force and institutions humans create. It helps to understand what shapes social relationships, politics, and so on which are so important to humans.

[@dantebanducci235]

Don’t we all. Don’t we all.

[@leonardo899]

Sociology and Psychology is are not exact sciences. It's as much a made-believe thing as magic.

[@SlavaPiorun]

To those saying the good magic should disappear too: He does have to leave the good magic behind as well. Just a small pocket of it remains, to give humans "inspiration".I think the whole point is that it's possible to rid ourselves of the more harmful aspects of irrational thinking, like superstition, while still maintaining a small part of irrationality that is a necessary part of being human. Or phrase it however you want. They try to strike a balance. Silly movie, but I can't fault the message.

[@alexlynn5111]

I feel like it's similar to the ending of Labyrinth. You have to grow up and as you do you learn more and leave. Behind old superstitions but you keep a portion of that magic with you to look back on for inspiration and hope in dark times.

[@stevepalpatine2828]

Any science sufficiently further advanced than the observers frame of reference appears to be magic to that observer. What do you think a Babylonian would make of a lazer cutting sheet metal, or a Roman General a Hydrogen Bomb. Or a small piece of glass in your hand that holds the sum of human knowledge? Bring someone from a few hundred years ago to modern times they would think we were magicians.

[@tbotalpha8133]

@@stevepalpatine2828 But we could explain it to them, even if we had to start with simplifications. Pre-modern humans weren't stupid - merely ignorant. And to be honest, pre-modern humans saw no difference between philosophers and magicians. What we now sneer at as "magic" was believed to simply be material reality. They wouldn't necessarily think we were wielding some divine power - it would have been well within their worldview to believe that we were simply "very wise".

[@stevepalpatine2828]

@@tbotalpha8133 Magician comes from the word Magi which means just "wise" so yeah youre right

[@gothsauceproductions5243]

Yes!!! My dad had this movie on tape for me as a kid. I watched it all the time. This came out the year I was born.

[@eroraf8637]

Same! We had a VHS recording of this, _Balto_ , and _Duck Tales: Treasures of the Lost Lamp_ . Also a couple more cassettes each of _Blue’s Clues_ and _Magic School Bus_ . Good times.

[@kevin777david]

Just realised 40 years later that when Sir Peter speaks the subject names, he states them in alphabetical order

[@McSuperfly101]

I guess he got schooled.

[@MadassAlex]

Violently underrated comment

[@justbenagain2291]

The dude literally destroyed him with facts and logic

[@Impediment]

This is truly the very best voice work ever done by James Earl Jones.

[@madnightguard6296]

Agreed.

[@chrisardenpanes7071]

I can relate to Ommadon's pain when it comes to math, physics and chemistry. Memorizing the formulas can really burn you out.🙃😂

[@suncho6502]

That's me in school. The teacher recites Newton laws, and I scream AAAAA

[@adivshtein2054]

He really destroyed him with facts and logic💀

[@DermotPalmer-yy8nc]

I am 43 and have watched this film since I was a child,I now watch it with my son and he loves it,go on the 80s🎉

[@samuelpaquet8260]

The incredible talent of James Earl Jones!

[@emilianomerendino3311]

How most college students feel. But seriously, it was awesome.

[@MrFantocan]

Am I the only one who feels sorry for Ommadon? He wanted to save his magic, in terrible ways tho.

[@i39darkblade]

Almost like Gellert Grindelwald from Harry Potter, they both wanted to do what was right but in the wrong way.

[@DigiMaverickWorld0rder1155]

In that regard, I do feel a smidgen of pity for Ommadon. That said, his defeat was well deserved, all things considered. Let's not kid ourselves after all, he's evil incarnate, so of course the only way he saw fit to save the world of magic was to destroy the world of man.

[@Vigriff]

While he was a living incarnation of evil, I did felt a small bit of pity for him.

[@MrFantocan]

@@Vigriff I would have done the same if I was in his place, Screw losing my magic!

[@VentiVonOsterreich]

"Nothing so horrible could be real" Tapeworm in someone's brain: "you sure about that"

[@patrik9328]

They go into brains?? Eww!

[@keishii2648]

"The sun is the sun!" has been stuck in my head for days, took me a while to find this!

[@RaPositivist]

I remember watching this film as a young child. I remember how sad I felt that he rejected all magic, but how releaved I was that he was able to best the sorcerer.

[@Miikhiel]

"Two things cannot occupy the same place at the same time," or so he says. He clearly has never heard of double penetration.

[@AzazelZaphorOmega]

Lmao Good god XD

[@wii1245]

Miikhiel Aali yep, good sex joke there.

[@geovaughan8261]

You, sir, get a cookie.

[@crisalcantara7671]

🤣🤣

[@ariandynas]

I believe a fairly wise fellow said something along the lines of; "Evil may only succeed when good men do nothing." Evil still exists and it always will. But good men will always stand forward to stop it.

[@zurvanmooney4940]

“2 things can’t occupy the same place at the same time” Sorry, but a ghost can

[@kylestubbs8867]

Could you verify the existence of a ghost, though?

[@dynamiteraccoon]

>When the DM allows the players to involve science in their game

[@Sneakysneaky88]

So this is what people see when they think they're winning an internet argument.

[@AngryNerdBird]

This is one of my favorite "If a film was a D&D campaign" movies. 😂

[@WendyWinchester]

Most badass nerd EVER!! I love this movie so much. I watched it over and over again when I was a kid.

[@Indurok]

"No! My one weakness: LEARNING!"

[@yippeeyokai5750]

I loved this movie as a child.

[@1Maklak]

A typical conversation between a Technomancer and a Tradition Mage in World of Darkness.

[@metalore]

This is what you call getting schooled.

[@yamiblade]

Ladies and Gents. The Birth of the Technocracy from Mage the Ascension

[@yamiblade]

Around the late 19th century

[@Kageryushin]

And that's how Oblivion won.

[@StGeorgedragonhunter]

i was always convinced whitewolf was onto something.

[@kokocampiglio7240]

I never comment but this comment made me do it. Thank you. Hahaha.

[@BigusGeekus]

So you're saying that the Technocracy were always the good guys after all?

[@miafillene4396]

Magic retreats from our world, and we are all the poorer for it.

[@raikohzx4323]

Peter was so fed up with this guy he practically got right in his face just to make sure Zoology ended him.

[@AfroThunder907]

I was like 7 or 8 when this came on tv in the 90's and tried alot to remember this since then. Later thought it was all a fever dream. Im glad its real lol

[@GreenGestalt]

How about how he also traveled through space/time, returning the red crown on the way back? I think it subtly argued a much greater magic in man's uncovered potential that had first manifested as magic, then moved to science.

[@DukeMachiavelli]

Awesome! The only time anyone has been nerded to death...

[@PopcornOnCouchAnime]

this man really over here beating a dragon like : ☝🤓 "Protons have 1832 times more mass than electrons"

[@Zoeurfali]

Brings back great childhood memories.....thanks. I needed that.

[@SamSchreiber12]

Can't help but notice that "sociology" is what makes Omadon lose it. "AAAAAUUUGH, that's not even a real science!!! What a world, what a world..."

[@yelloweyeball]

That explains everything lol.

[@bradjames891]

that's hilarious.

[@shaqwave]

Oh well when we’re kids we wont mind that lol

[@cosmicspacething3474]

And then everyone he killed MAGICALLY comes back to life lmao

[@TFichVe]

We finally meet the man who can outsmart bullet.

[@AmieEss]

"Two things cannot occupy the same place at the same time" Quantum Physics: *ahem*

[@godofwisdom3141]

That's only for bosons though. The Pauli Exclusion Principle prevents fermions from being in the same place at the same time.

[@ItsRetroPlanet]

"I am the world...and the world...is OMMADON..."

[@SaviorGabriel]

Absolutely love that line. That deep slow growl in James Earl Jones' voice seals it.

[@ariandynas]

Sorry. Someone has to do this. "HE BLINDED ME WITH SCIENCE!"

[@Terastas]

He also deafened, lobotomized, and straight up MURDERED him with science.

[@josephshriner2850]

I feel like the scientist inspired the Technocracy in old Mage.

[@_Chessa_]

XD that last part is definitely meme worthy. Maybe I’m wrong though. But I love this.

[@dinobot386]

The Ken Ham and Bill Nye debate in a nutshell.

[@Deadmentellnotales-vf3gg]

Bill Nye ain't science.

[@geovaughan8261]

Compared to Ken Ham he is.

[@codylockwood.4565]

Scarcely a true scientist, I am afraid. If "magic", however one wants to define it, can produce an empirically observable effect then it is by definition "real". It should be understood and patched into our flawed but ever improving understanding of the world, made part of science, rather than be denied. A scientist should be salivating at a previously unseen facet of the universe being laid bare to him, not denying what his eyes tell him.

[@electricwolfpup4566]

Cody Lockwood. OR.... you could use your imaginations every now and then!

[@robokill387]

did you even read the comment you're replying to?

[@fascistswan3470]

You obviously didn't watch the cartoon.

[@adammclaughlin845]

So by the OP's argument, any illusion is real because it can be empirically observed (albeit by a process of deceit). A person dressed as a monkey is a real monkey. What kind of dunderheaded science is that?

[@fascistswan3470]

Adam McLaughlin the op wanted to sound smart and it backfired