ICAO Flight Plans for Domestic Flights

[@sprberk]

Very thorough. I re-watch this every time I have to teach flight plans to my students

[@joestandley]

Awesome, glad you like it!

[@DavidDaverso]

Very nice walkthrough. I especially like the appearing/disappearing yellow highlight boxes and red oval annotations

[@joestandley]

Thanks! It's funny how so many people comment on how they like that and I was worried it would look unprofessional.

[@Windtee]

RIP, domestic flightplan. It was a perfect form, intuitive, simple, and easy to fill. Less was more, but now it's a chore. You'll be missed, FAA Form 7233-1.

[@joestandley]

Isn't that the truth!

[@marjukkhan3499]

It really helped me out a lot. The yellow highlights and the slow and clear walk through is superb. Thank you

[@joestandley]

Glad it helped! I thought it would be easier for people if I highlighted the things I was talking about as I was describing it so people knew right where to look rather than getting distracted by trying to find it.

[@donnyguns1]

Thank you, Very helpful for somebody like me who is getting back at it after 10yrs :)

[@Flightinstructorjoe]

Awesome, welcome back to flying.

[@Chelenger747]

That is a good tutorial, walking through these steps. Thank you.

[@johnmixon22]

Several years ago, I had flown to Canada. They were using this form. I had to "Seek Profesional Help" to fill it out. After we use it for a while, it should get easier. Recently, I filed by phone to Flight Service for the rental plane I was using. Flight service asked several questions about the ADS-B-out onboard this plane. The owner was not available to supply that info. Thanks for your detailed presentation.

[@airmett8939]

Explained really well. I hope you're getting a lot of views now since August 2019. You have the best explanation.

[@joestandley]

Awesome, happy to hear it! Thanks

[@raphaeledaubois]

Thank you so very much for this video! It was VERY helpful and easy to follow. The descriptions of every letter was much appreciated.

[@joestandley]

You're welcome, Glad you liked it!

[@martincooper1128]

This really helped me, eplained very basically for the average ICAO flight plan. .

[@Flightinstructorjoe]

Glad you liked it!

[@LightRealms]

Very useful information

[@SierraLimaSL]

thanks joe! very clear explanation!

[@joestandley]

No problem, glad you liked it!

[@joankatheu5752]

Thank you so much.. Now I understand it more clearly.

[@spencerhousley8856]

Very helpful, thank you!

[@daniellystlund5720]

Nice walkthrough

[@joestandley]

Thanks Daniel!

[@LakeAllfredLuigi]

This video was exactly what I needed. Thank you so much

[@joestandley]

Glad it helped!

[@arleydueck3947]

A very helpful video, thank you!

[@ricardoavq]

Great video. Thanks!!!

[@Gryronaut]

Very informative. Thanks for posting.

[@ianutube22]

Nice to know the FAA is now being co-opted by the U.N. Fucking awesome. Thank you very much for the video btw. Just venting my frustration. I really do appreciate this.

[@babybaba4809]

Excellent explanation Well done

[@joestandley]

Thanks!

[@mattj65816]

This handy dandy form has already prevented me from filing one flight plan. I was making a quick flight a couple towns over and 1800wxbrief.com gave me this form to fill out. I struggled through most of it until I hit "flight type," which is just a bunch of letters with no explanation of what they mean. I chose to send a text message to my sister instead, telling her where I'd be. I don't want to accidentally fill out the letter for "terrorist mission" and get myself shot down. This is incredibly obtuse for such a simple thing. Sometimes they give you a letter and you cross it out if it *does not* apply. Other times they give you an empty box and you fill in an unspecified letter if it *does* apply. Looks a lot like a form that was designed by people who will never have to use it.

[@joestandley]

I know, they don't make it easy! The domestic flight plan is so much more user friendly. I hope this video helped explain things better for you at least.

[@mattj65816]

@@joestandley ​ It certainly did help, and thanks for that. I successfully filed my first ICAO flight plan today. Without your video I still might not have been able to do that. :)

[@joestandley]

@@mattj65816 Awesome! Glad to hear it.

[@SkyBaum]

Thank you for this video!

[@joestandley]

You're welcome, glad you liked it!

[@alexmelia8873]

Thank you!

[@joestandley]

No problem!

[@Aventicus]

Under number 9 ForeFlight says that if there are 3 total aircraft, one should place the number 2 to indicate how many other aircraft are flying with you.

[@joestandley]

This is directly from the instruction sheet from the FAA. It does not say list the number of aircraft in addition to yours. See wording here: Number of Aircraft (Item 9) when there is more than one aircraft in the flight; indicate the number of aircraft up to 99. If you are using foreflight, they may automatically count your airplane so I would do what foreflight says. When filling out the form by hand or calling it in, I would do what the FAA says above.

[@Aventicus]

@@joestandley Thanks a million!

[@MrLuizsbcunha]

Good job. Well done!

[@rafaelsierra8733]

Good presentation. Thanks.

[@joestandley]

Thank you!

[@KimWentworth-y8e]

A lot of pilot will not use this because it is not easy to use. They need to make it much easier for the pilot so that you do not have to research multiple sites to get your aircraft type, and equipment. Also, some of the other codes are confusing. I am learning this as a student pilot and I think they should put all of the look up codes in one spot.

[@joestandley]

I agree 100%. The flight plan forms used to be much easier and they are more confusing now with all the different codes, etc. As a student pilot, your instructor should be teaching you all the current info, where to find it and how to fill out flight plan forms so you aren't struggling so much with it. Also, there are multiple ways to fill out a flight plan like using foreflight but even with those, you have to set up the aircraft profile which will require research on proper codes. It really is confusing, I agree. Especially as a student pilot. I tried to make things easier and show where to find the codes because it isn't very clear, but as always things change and we as pilots are expected to keep up with the changes.

[@badgerfishinski6857]

Under "Equipment", what if I have Mode C Transponder AND ADS-B OUT ? What do I put in the #10 EQUIPMENT dialog box??? I can't put /C and /B1. So what to do?

[@jjohnston94]

This apparently hasn't happened all the way yet. As of 4-24-21, the FAA website says it's "preferred", but only mandatory for certain flights (international and some other criteria).

[@joestandley]

It's happened around here. Even my examiners are requiring it. I saw that is was to be used now and have been using it for awhile.

[@user-ik6jg7xb2d]

What is the full form of priority FF

[@joestandley]

That is only filled out by air traffic control services. I believe it is for prioritizing control and flow of traffic.

[@xndr31]

Let me clarify that, Priority FF are for ATS services messages. There are other priorities like KK ( administrative msgs), GG ( Aeronautical Informations like NOTAMs, weather messages like METAR, FF, DD, SS ( Emergencies messages). Priorities were made for Aeronautical network. Messages are prioritized according to their importance. Then, there are addresses of ATS services Wherever the plane will fly to its destination. In the past, right before internet, the Aeronautical network was a hardware communication service, which works with channels. They were created to meet the need for communication channels in the past. The ICAO form was made after the message. That is why the fields do not have a logical order. Observe how the message is sent to the air control. This is an example using the same information from this video. FF KCXXZQZX 250100 KCXXZPZX (FPL-N12345-IG -P28A/L-SDG/C -ZZZZ1500 -N0110A040 OBK DCT RFD DCT PLL -KCID0120 -DEP/ 3CK LAKE IN THE HILLS) GA flight planes are simple. If you need help call your local FSS. You can do it yourself.

[@Airplanes_Stars]

Nicely done!

[@joestandley]

Thanks!

[@KimWentworth-y8e]

This does not go to this screen. Screen is different. You now get the codes from the FAA.

[@joestandley]

Everything changes over time and the FAA loves to change website links, etc. Just when you get used to something they change it. This video was made 7 years ago. The info is the same but where you find info is always changing with every business. If you know of any changes in where to find info, please share it in case others cannot find where it has moved to. Thanks!

[@Christine.corneille]

Interesting form

[@joestandley]

It used to be a lot more simple!

[@cybenkencasugbo5174]

Mah men savior

[@SayTrueSteve]

Very good video! Informative and great production values thanks

[@joestandley]

Thanks!

[@reubenmorris487]

Need an instruction manual to fill out a flight plan now.

[@joestandley]

I agree! They made everything much more complicated than it has to be.

[@KimWentworth-y8e]

Your directions to the get the aircraft type is all wrong. The screen no way looks like the screens you have and there is no search button. So this will be a question I will have to ask.

[@joestandley]

I'm confused as to what you are saying. There are many online forms since this video was made that have their own search functions and their own layouts which will allow you to write in plain language. This is just a form from the FAA. When you put your aircraft type, just like filling out an iacra form, an online FAA form requires it to written an exact way. For example, I may not be able to write PA28, but P28A will work. If you were to call in and file your flight plan you would just say Piper Warrior and they would probably know the code their system requires. Other online forms may recognize different ways of writing the abbreviations. Also, things change, this video was made 7 years ago. It is still the same form that the FAA has today but searching for plane codes could have been changed since then. If you know your planes code, PA28, C172, etc. just put it in. If it doesn't work then research the way they want it. Most people are putting their airplane profiles in foreflight these days and filing from there which makes things easier. I hope this helps clarify any misunderstanding.

[@عبدالرؤوفعبدالرؤوف-ع1س]

can you do tirm sheet

[@gregms7661]

You should have more views today

[@joestandley]

Hopefully it helps people. I think the ICAO flight plan is less user friendly.

[@gregms7661]

@@joestandley it is but I think its cause we arent use to it yet. I've filed 2 IFR plans with the help of your video and I had no issues. I dont use Foreflight cause I'm a cheap ass so I file via 1800wxbrief.com in think my biggest worry was making sure I picked the right equipment but I think a good rule is if your not sure dont put it. For example I didn't want to put DME because I wasnt sure if the Garmin 430 (even though it does display distance) counted. I guess in use to DME being for ground based nav aid (ILS, VORTAC) anyone that can confirm let me know. Thanks.

[@MythicLandsWorld1074]

We’re did u get that from

[@joestandley]

If you are referring to the form, you can look up icao flight plan form online and print it out or you can buy them at most pilot shops.

[@acrosby2117]

Here are some more codes for /PBN in 18. OTHER INFORMATION when you put R in Item 10b. (i.e. the code after "/" in 10. EQUIPMENT. www.icao.int/safety/FITS/DocumentLibrary/FITS-Library/Guidance_Item%2010_18.pdf I use to put NAV/WAAS but now it seems more complicated. (FYI: PBN= Performance Based Navigation) PBN/ B2 D2 O2 S1 (FYI: RNP= Required Navigation Performance for Enroute, Terminal, and Approach tolerances ) Fun huh?

[@oubobcats27]

Change playback speed to 1.25 and he talks normally.

[@joestandley]

Huh? It doesn't seem like I am talking too slowly. lol

[@oubobcats27]

@@joestandley LOL I'm just poking fun at your deep voice, mostly jealous.

[@joestandley]

@@oubobcats27 LOL, That's funny!

[@youtubemail912]

Do I write speed as indicated or ground or true airspeed ?

[@joestandley]

Write the true airspeed as indicated.

[@youtubemail912]

@@joestandley thank you so much! I’m still student and I was curious because when we make xc planning we calculate with ground speed. Is there reason why icao foam use true airspeed ?