SAS vs Ryanair SHOWDOWN on domestic flight to the Swedish north!

[@ThatForeignBloke]

Having lived and worked in Sweden for many years and travelled on business to places like Umeå, Skellefteå and Luleå, I can say that I would usually avoid SAS if there were decent alternatives; partly due to price and partly due to the poor service I experienced in the noughties and early 2010's. Norwegian was always my first choice but I would go Ryanair for this short flight, definitely. They are are not a fun airline but if you want cheap, safe and efficient on a 1 hour flight then they are quite ok.

[@phpfreakie]

Good video and a fair comparison! I think it is all about expectations when flying either airline. The saying 'you get what you pay for' usually it the truth.

[@vondahe]

Yes and no. High competition can bring full-service airline ticket prices down to a pittance, e.g. London to New York.

[@kojoharrison630]

Any Newer Aircraft compared to an older Aircraft is Never fair. That Neo Variant is newer and so has additional comforts (newer engines = noise reduction etc) whereas the Ryanair variant is an older Aircraft 737-800, therefore not a fair comparison by any means.

[@ViktorFromDK]

@@kojoharrison630 but it is totally fair when it is those aircrafts that RYR and SAS operates on the route mainly?

[@kojoharrison630]

@@ViktorFromDK Their age difference makes all the difference so you can’t compare a New Variant with an older Variant whose engines are different

[@ViktorFromDK]

@@kojoharrison630 Oh hell you can or are you saying that if airline A is operating an Airbus A330-300 and airline B is operating an B787-9 on the same route then you cant compare them? Like wtf? You can as its a part of the SERVICE they provide on the SAME route

[@jatterhog]

I live in Östersund, SAS have downgraded us to a CRJ from 737s and A320s and multiple departures per day are very often completely sold out, either SK have to upsize or another airline needs to relieve some pressure! Edit: SAS Go costs 2 949 SEK on most departures, so your price seemed decent…

[@Flightradar24DotCom]

Yes, surprising that another airline isn't getting in on that!

[@benjaminjakob1906]

Not to forget that Ryanair is not always that much cheaper. If you’re looking for a flight at a hub during peak times and book late , you’ll often pay “low cost airlines” a comparable price to standard carriers.

[@Flightradar24DotCom]

Very true.

[@Spudandrowback7D]

On this route it almost always is though right? I can never justify the SAS flight.

[@jnrfalcon]

It used to be that you only need 10 flights on SAS Or Widerøe to get SAS silver, which gives you lounge access and fast track... Gone are the good old days

[@dusk2dawn2]

So, always bring a ruler (tape it to your smartphone) and a decibel meter (apps exsist for both Android and iOS) !

[@gogabego]

Both good calls!!

[@Allaboutheartsofiron4]

I understand what the captain said on sas

[@RYNT1157]

I prefer in front of the wing on a jet for less engine noise and the rear on a turbo prop they are quite at the back.

[@Flightradar24DotCom]

Agree!

[@Spudandrowback7D]

I like ryanair because they are actually capable of operating reliable flights with some competence in comparison to SAS which has caused me so much grief over the years. Also why does SAS always have so many wet leased aircraft every year?????

[@antonkristiansen673]

Shortage of staff both pilots and cabin crew

[@N1611n]

@ 1.35 I like the SAS aircraft parked at the gate with the Irish registration EI-FPX. Wonder if they leased it from Ryanair Lolz!

[@Pilotfarmand]

Well, Ryanair register their aircrafts in Malta..

[@N1611n]

@@Pilotfarmand I clocked that with the 9H reg.

[@dobrien757]

@@Pilotfarmand the ones with G are Ryanair Uk, Sp Ryanair Buzz, EI ryanair and 9H malta air

[@Pilotfarmand]

@@dobrien757 I know, but well spotted.

[@ViktorFromDK]

If it is a SAS plane with the first two letters in the registration being EI then it is SAS Link (SZS/SL)

[@williamfraser27]

The registration is Malta I believe

[@dannyboyUwU]

It is

[@skirolf]

Ryanair, no worries flying with them. No problem after 50 flights!

[@Joegjfhgjgfjd]

Spelling NORRLAND not Lappland

[@JelmersAviation]

Awesome video!

[@chelseacharger]

Must have taken close on 180 flights with Ryanair and very little issues with legroom, safety or departing/arriving on time with them. They've only grinded my gears once over getting a refund for a cancelled flight due to Covid. Maybe I've been lucky or just less likely to find fault, given the savings being made. Like the man says, if you're flexible and show a bit of initiative, eg. small cushion in hand luggage for extra comfort, meal deal incl. drink in airport departure for flight. Five times cheaper for a short flight? It's a no-brainer when the actual travel differences are negligible.

[@iammaximilian]

Agreed.

[@lawrenceakini9507]

Thanks for this vlog. Safe travels. 2022.

[@j.lang87]

Whiplash landing lol. Love your videos my friend.

[@Flightradar24DotCom]

Thank you! Yes the landing was rough!

[@davebowman6497]

"Let's go to Lapland". Really? I thought the flight was to Skellefteå. If it hasn't moved lately Skellefteå should (still) be in Norrbotten, not Lapland. ;-)

[@Flightradar24DotCom]

Yes, a bit of creative license there which is technically incorrect. Skellefteå is considered a gateway to the "landskap" or province of Lapland and the line that demarcates Lapland is very close to Skellefteå. The idea in the narration was to evoke a concept more than a specific political area - and on that topic in terms of actual government administration Lapland is irrelevant in Sweden as the whole region is covered by the "läns" of Västerbotten and Norrbotten. Lapland is a cultural/historical region and Skellefteå feels very much a part of that. Though if we're being precise Skellefteå is technically in Västerbotten not Norbotten. All that being said, yes, it's true, it might mislead some into a false idea about the geography and should have been better clarified!

[@HerrNilsson2]

Nope Skellefteå is located in Västerbotten.

[@tmp3477]

You don’t like being proven wrong do you ? Lapland my left foot!

[@Victor-oz3zo]

Ryanair is great for short flights up to two hours! However, I try to avoid them for any flights longer than that.

[@Franklin-fp9nk]

Bor i Uppsala och pendlar ofta till Luleå. Ryanair är den bästa val jag kommer någonsin få för denna typ av resor, snacka om 80 kr för biljett, och inte minst tiden man sparar jämfört med tåg samt kostnaden, sjukt alltså ! (Edit) Och dessutom opererar de nu från T4 så man slipper eventuella långa köer skulle de uppstå igen (God forbid)

[@dannycnoble]

How tall are you? i am flying Ryanair for the 1st time in 2024 and i am 6ft 6 (183 cm) so paid for seat 1 as i had heard the horror stories of ryanair seat pitch. so better safe than sorry. but like you said seat pitch look pretty good.

[@petercraddy3809]

Gabriel, you often mention legroom but how tall are you? 76cm / 30" seat-pitch on a Qantas 738 gives me almost no space at 188cm tall

[@gogabego]

Good point! I’m 178cm so will fit into many seats you might not. Will try to include actual measurements in future!

[@germangr1014]

Everyone wants to pay less, nobody wants to have a low wage...

[@tobiasolsson8634]

SAS 💙✈️☀️

[@tommyandersson3145]

Took this flight to Skellefteå no problem

[@jfrotlund]

I´d pay the 5x price just to avoid the dreadful ugly yellow !!! ;)

[@hoof2001]

SAS is well worth it. No shifty “scratch cards” but having said that, Ryanair coffee is brilliant. But in the interests of transparency, I detest Ryanair. Turbulence is turbulence whatever airline

[@gogabego]

Yes. My point was that turbulence is noticeably more uncomfortable at the back on both plane types. Nothing to do with airline.

[@captain007x]

Ryanair don't create turbulence.

[@gogabego]

@@captain007x no one said it does.

[@YummiMoney]

The back of the airplane is fun since the bouncing feels like a ride.

[@joachimstraarup1939]

You cant really compare the noise level of the two aircraft - Try to fly the 737-8200 and I can guarantee you will be pleasantly surprised by the noise level. Its a completely different world to the 737-800

[@ViktorFromDK]

Oh but he can when it is the two types on that flight? Yeah if RYR did fly the 737-8-200 and the 737-800 then he should do the 737-8-200 but it isent possible on that route.

[@Flightradar24DotCom]

Right, no doubt it’s quieter, but like I mentioned they most commonly fly the -800 so I think it’s fair to compare! Obviously hard to get a perfect comparison there since aircraft types do vary for both carriers. The real question though is, is the max AS quiet as the NEO?

[@123fockewolf]

@@Flightradar24DotCom Great video and review sir! In Arlanda Ryanair has two 8200 and two 800 :) 50%/50% chance of the 8200 and they to some fly assigned destinations.

[@aviationscotland5336]

Damn, the landing was hard.

[@tommyp1976]

Sorry to say, but SAS is always worth paying more. You forgot to mention that you have free of charge possibility to charge your mobile and you have wi-fi, which Ryanair is not even offering. You forgot also mention that with SAS you usually get the crew who is speaking the local Swedish language instead of having a Romanian crew as at Ryanair.

[@Flightradar24DotCom]

True about the WiFi and power! On an hour's flight it seemed less relevant. But yes should have mentioned that.

[@paultyrrell9497]

Much of your comment was more about the differences between an airbus and a Boeing aircraft rather than the airlines. In talking about value which you didn’t mention it’s a no brainer.

[@danielcraig243]

I don't understand why everyone hates Ryanair. I guess its for the memez. Not everyone wants to pay an extra 300 pounds for seat pockets

[@Flightradar24DotCom]

We reckon it's a kind of "love to hate" scenario. The bashing, and the resulting jokes and memes, are pretty funny. And Ryanair leans into it, so it snowballs!

[@douglasnisbet1189]

Price is what dictates choice for 99% of passengers. Why pay more on a one hour flight? 737 vs A320...hardly any difference. Both with excellent safety records. For eco-conscious Swedes then Ryanair makes more sense because of the high density configuration on their aircraft. No way I'd pay 5x more to fly SAS. I mean...I could use that extra money to spend on things for my actual trip away.

[@Flightradar24DotCom]

Quite right about the price. Though I wonder about the eco-conscious part - the SAS 320NEO will be burning around 15% less fuel than Ryanair (NEO versus 737NG) while seating roughly 8% less passengers (189 versus 174). So SAS might have the edge there, on most flights to SFT anyway! Of course when Ryanair runs a 737MAX -200 on the route (currently just once a week), then they may win for fuel burned per seat....

[@douglasnisbet1189]

@@Flightradar24DotCom fair point! Ryanair have released figures on their website "proving" that they are the greenest airline group in Europe though, with the lowest CO2 per km per pax in Europe. But you make a good point in this particular case when it's the NEO vs the NG. Interesting video in any case! Personally I find paying 5x the price for an equivalent journey to be madness though 😂 Interestingly enough, Ryanair are selling tickets on that route for as low as 55 Swedish Króna on many days.

[@glados_boatman]

Flying the Mentour Airline in the Mentour country I see 😁

[@gogabego]

Yes!

[@skirolf]

Ryanair colors just same as Swedish colurs!

[@Flightradar24DotCom]

Very similar indeed!

[@Allaboutheartsofiron4]

I am swedish

[@patcalutube]

You don't seriously believe you got the SAS coffee for FREE, LOL? It's factored into the fare you paid :)

[@gogabego]

😬 you mean I paid 1100 kronor for a coffee!? Now that is a bad deal 😂

[@patcalutube]

LOL, No. "factored in" means the price of the coffee is added to the fare so you pay in advance for coffee whether you decide to have coffee or not on the flight. Same with BA, Air France etc. There's no such thing as a free lunch -or free coffee :) . With the low cost airlines if you want coffee you pay for it onboard.

[@gogabego]

Yes, I know what factored in means. I was joking.

[@TA-im8kc]

@@patcalutube Exactly! Nothing is for free. That also means that if you don’t pay, someone else will. When you don’t pay much for the ticket, the crew is “paying” with extremely low wages + they are not allowed to unionise, to change that fact

[@douglasnisbet1189]

@@TA-im8kc who forces them to work though? No one! It's entirely their choice.

[@vondahe]

I’d promised myself never to fly Ryanair, but recently I had no choice and gave it a shot. It was even worse than I expected and that was just buying the ticket: A maze of confusion and attempts at making you buy add-ons I did’t want. Sheer dishonesty. They could only get worse by resolving to actual criminal activity. I will avoid them in the future. SAS is a shadow of what they used to be but I’d chose them ANY day over this awful airline.

[@jamessmitka8066]

Ryanair - skip it! Seemed like you where on a bus (maybe a school bus), the yellow color was a give away. Gambling on board is a first for me! The one hour flight would be the tops! Now SAS is not worth 5X the price but if you have it, use it on SAS. Take care.

[@nummacway]

Recently flew with an actual Ryanair plane for the first time. Seeing the colors and no seat pockets, I was happy that all my previous flights with them were in fact operated by Lauda, whose A320s have gray interior (with seat pockets!).

So you're saying if SAS didn't charge five times as much you'd choose them. But they do charge five times what Ryanair does.

[@deejaystump]

SAS looks so 80's still no color inside i would say Ryanair was much better

[@bussoplanespotting_yt]

I recon sas is sus

[@sol3cito33]

SAS lost me with the campaign where they claim nothing that is Scandinavian is in fact Scandinavian. I am not even Scandinavian but find it a spit in the eye. Not surprised though, they are just playing their roles in the diversity game, to detach people from their roots, traditions, heritage so they are easier to control and manipulate.

[@RobertSK931]

I would never fly Ryanair. Never in my life

[@captain007x]

Millions do fly with Ryanair. Must be doing something right as Europe's largest airline. Your loss.

[@RobertSK931]

@@captain007x Only a Member in the staff would write like you. I never give up Business check in, fast track, Gold lounges etc etc. Ryanair is crap.

[@douglasnisbet1189]

@@RobertSK931 I don't care which airline you fly with, I'm just glad to see not all Swedes are like Greta Thunberg and think that flying is evil.

[@RobertSK931]

@@douglasnisbet1189 It has been a very strange thing, to not fly due to shame. I can never understand people like that and now Sweden is going up like a rocket with passengers. After Covid, everyone, kids to age 100 are flying like usal. It is great. We got one life, we cant wait and listen to the ”green” people. It’s their loss. Greetings from Los Angeles😀

[@douglasnisbet1189]

@@RobertSK931 totally and completely agree.

[@mfxx888]

Ryanair is a painful choice, avoid at any cost.

[@annjohnston5031]

Enjoyed this video, only other reason I’m commenting on this is you obviously have more money than sense, we Irish like to enjoy the money we earn… & not give it to a wealthy governments in Sweden & Denmark

[@skintslots]

The Irish government is wealthy too,you just dont get the high quality of public services that Sweden and Denmark get.

[@douglasnisbet1189]

Haha very well said!!

[@gogabego]

Hah! I like to think I’m pretty sensible. But flights are one area that I can be easily tempted into wasting money. By the way I don’t think any of my fare with SAS is going to SE or DK governments as the airline manages to never turn a profit anyway. Thanks for the comment!

[@Just_ADude12]

It’s Ryanair

[@oipo4320]

Wtf !!! Still wearing mask with ryan air...no way !!! How dare them

[@jsoftj]

I still would take Ryanair, if I had enough money to not care about the difference I might well consider something better than commercial.

[@gogabego]

Fair. But then you’re talking a VERY big price difference.

[@777Aviator]

737>A320 neo even if its ryanair, SAS 737s are just amazing

[@dan-fy2ek]

RYANAIR FTW!

[@777Aviator]

@@dan-fy2ek SAS is my fav airline but agreed on this one!

[@bennyhill3676]

Your ‘direct comparison’ is so blatantly biased towards SAS it lacks any credibility. I’ve flown with RYANAIR regularly as have many of my friends. Our experience with RYANAIR has been ; always on-time, fast well-organised boarding & disembarking procedures, helpful/efficient & friendly aircrews, decent filter coffee served on-board, mostly young aircraft and usually very competitive (sometimes bargain) fares.

[@Flightradar24DotCom]

I pointed out most of the positives about Ryanair that you just mentioned, and acknowledged that they mostly do a good job. I just happen to prefer the SAS experience overall. "Lacks any credibility"??

[@timclarke5700]

Yes but your bias against Ryanair was obvious from the start.

[@timclarke5700]

Your video was great but I think you need to be fairer to Ryanair. We flew yesterday from Manchester to Treviso - the fair was very very cheap, the aircraft was a brand new B737 Max less than 2 months old, the crew were very friendly, the coffee was freshly ground and served quickly with a hot sandwich, and the flight arrived ahead of schedule. What more could I ask?

[@michaelmccarthy9411]

He's seriously biased. Either swedish or Irish hater

[@DragenDave]

Back seats.. what ever.. I have active noise canceling Headphones. And btw.. those Scratch cards.. only a fraction goes to charity.. the rest goes to Ryanair... I would not take any flight with them.. I find them not save enough and they drive competence to decline in quality.

[@johnchristmas7522]

Right off the bat, I would fly SAS. Why? well I feel safer on an Airbus rather than a MAX. As to the yellow it looks crap -SAS is much nicer and even if dearer I would still fly SAS.

[@johnoconnor4623]

I think that you had already reached your conclusion before you made this video. Admit it, you are biased against Ryanair. Oh, educate yourself about Ryanair's "horrible yellow" as you describe it. The founder of Ryanair was from County Tipperary in Ireland and the country colours are Blue and Yellow. Just do a search for Tipperary Colours and you will see them. Coincidentally they are also Ukraine's colours.

[@gogabego]

Not to mention pretty close to the Swedish colors too! Ukraine uses different shades of blue and yellow compared to Ryanair. But it doesn’t really matter because none of that (nor the history behind the color choice) changes my desire not to see those colors all around me while sitting on a plane. I’m glad to know where the colors came from though - thanks for that info 😀

[@johnoconnor4623]

@@gogabego Never thought of the Swedish Blue and Yellow!

[@mikepopstar]

Ryanairs customer service is like Platinum compared to SAS..its a joke nowdays