Flintlock Smoothbore Performance

[@TheArizonan]

love the channel! As a huge history buff I like that you keep the hobby of firearms not only fun but educational. keep up the good work.

[@yankeedoodledandeefirecrac7518]

Mike, I really learned a lot off your video! Thank you for taking the time to do this experiment! Now I'm gearing up and I'm holding off only at thirty yards. Thank you!

[@rifleman17hmrshooter]

man that load sure gives a good boot! this was a good video showing practical hunting use and the versatility of a smooth bore! makes me want to build one!

[@michaelpriest6242]

As are all your videos, nice, concise advice. I especially like the tip of checking to see if the over powder wads "leaks." Thank you for yet another good video.

[@bigchiefnowashietribe9657]

I use cardboard for wads that I cut with a die I made from thin wall steel conduit. I use 1 over the powder and 2 over the shot. I smear a little bore lube around the edge to make them easier to load and keep moisture out of the powder. My patterns are about the same as these in the video. My way is no better or worse but it works good for me. LOL

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

The smoothie is next on my bucket list.They look fun to shoot! Thanks for posting.......

[@TraditionalBlackPowder]

Nice looking smoothbore.

[@johnndavis7647]

There is a book called The Art of Shooting Flying writen in 1727 by one of the famous shooting sports of the day in England. He suggests the exact same load for his 20 gauge fowlers. He used wads punched from leather or wool hat material. He suggested trying various wads and testing to see what was the best distance for s particular gun and load and taking the shot at game at that distance as often as possible. They had shot towers by then and many tons of shot were imported into the Americas.

[@olebluedogfl9490]

Thanks Mike Love the video and the gun!

[@angiefav1847]

So informative thanks mike we always enjoy your work thank you

[@e.kent.d9561]

I have said it before, but that is a beautiful gun.

[@yankeedoodledandeefirecrac7518]

Thank you Mike I asked you to do this video , i was needing this info Thank you!!! Great job!!

[@GunnerGatlin]

Love your videos Mike!

[@Chiefs500]

I have a fusil de chasse I built from a Pecatonica River parts set. It is a beautiful gun and effective at 20 and 30 yards. I use a card and a bit of tow over the powder charge and then use two of the paper strips set at 90 degrees from one another to form a sort of shot cup. I too use a heavy charge of shot and top off with an over shot card.

[@7.62x38mmR]

Thanks, mate. Very interesting video

[@pepejuan2924]

Really good thanks for posting 👍😁🇺🇸

[@matthewmoss1589]

What a lovely ball flask

[@macktonite5849]

Great video, Mike.

[@charlescomly1]

Great video Mike, nice looking gun. I kinda was expecting to see at the end of the video the turkeys view.

[@michaelcoatney2568]

Love the bumper sticker! Précisement, Monsieur Beliveau.

[@win1885]

Hi Mike, Another great video. How about a video on cleaning the fusil and you rifles ??? Thanks, Tom I

[@JohnDought]

Is it possible to sharpshoot with a smoothbore?

[@ditto1958]

Nice video. That was very interesting.

[@yankeedoodledandeefirecrac7518]

How about doing a video on putting a paper wad type paper cup inside to see if the BB delivery is concentrated more heavily!! like a choke !

[@tyrssen1]

What a wonderful gun! Now I have to go lookin' around for any other flintlock videos you've got, Mike! If I ever get two nickels to rub together, I'd love to build a fusil de chasse from a kit. Any recommendations, as far as kits go? Thanks for another very enjoyable video!

[@carrollgriffin6178]

we can watch your YOU-TUBE reruns for awhile, but get well soonest!

[@neolexington]

Beautiful gun and an awesome bumper sticker!!

[@TheConMom66901]

+neolexington Ridge runner Mike B. looks like could not even make it around the block. Does he have any idea how he looks ? He dresses the part plus size, but he can't walk the walk. He'd pass out. He looks the fool in his buck skins. The fat kid playing D. Boone.

[@neolexington]

+Teresa Dehnel-Snavely Says the kid that is into Cosplay and Jamberry. At least he gets out there and make an effort and isn't some kind of internet troll.

[@blueridgebushcraft8294]

I hope you don’t have cardboard for thanksgiving dinner. Hahahahaha. Always enjoy watching your videos and keep up the good work brother.

[@drmaudio]

I guess it stands to reason thinking about it, but I just realized there would not be any choke.

[@ROBV113]

The "fusil de chasse" (word for word translation = Gun of hunt...hunting gun) Was used pretty much like a modern cylinder bore shotgun. would fire round balls for large game or shot for birds ect...... Shot sizes however were much larger than our modern #5 used in this video.

[@leithafae]

Hi Mike a fan of yours here. I've used Indian made replicas but never owned a pedisoli brown bess. I wandered if you ever have a free day and wouldn't mind could you do a video showing about misfire rates on the pedisoli brown bess. That shows a ratio of misfires to shots so we can see the difference and if its worth doubling the cost for a brown bess from pedisoli please.

[@duelist1954]

I have never had a misfire with this Bess. That is over several hundred shots.

[@leithafae]

@@duelist1954 wow damn ok think I will spend the extra then. Worth it instead of hearing clicks

[@jameswhitt4345]

very good

[@MBsaturnus]

do you always load equal volume of shot and powdre?

[@IAmTheEagleHTM]

I know it's a little unexpected and unusual but could you do a video showing either a Blunderbuss or a Nock gun?

[@30CalCoreLokt]

Good Morning, Sir. I am new to black powder and just purchased a T/C .56 Smooth bore. I have heard other places on the internet about your 2 part series on smoothbores in 2015. Would the data in those two articles be applicable to my .56 or not? Im looking forward to my first magazine!

[@duelist1954]

messy shop videos roughly applicable. Powder charges, and ball sizes will be different.

[@uarbor70]

I know this video is old. But I also know you do respond two questions usually. I was wondering if your muskets and other smoothboars have touch-hole liners installed or are they just drilled traditionally?

[@duelist1954]

My muskets just have touch holes drilled in the barrel. My English fowler and my French Fusil have liners.

[@yankeedoodledandeefirecrac7518]

Thank you for that test you ran for me....Any difference when you build that load using leather? hornest material? muffin mix? what the best way to keep those BB;s Close together like a choked shot?

[@user-mt4vo4ey5n]

I find it hard to believe anyone could go hungry having that gun.

[@samcronk4555]

I have a question if you wouldn't mind please. One of your videos from 4 years ago you used a cushion wad to prevent shot deformation. But both this video and the original with the clay birds you didn't.... is it because of being period correct or have you determined that the additional cushion wad was not beneficial? Thanks for the help.

[@duelist1954]

Sam Cronk Cushion wads are very beneficial, but they are a 19th century invention. In these videos I have been using strictly 18th century techniques.

[@samcronk4555]

Makes perfect sense and that's for the quick response, its appreciated.

[@darrellgoodman9585]

@@samcronk4555 you can also use flax or even wool sheared off a sheep.

[@alanpeterson6224]

@@darrellgoodman9585 Yes, it's very important to not leave the sheep attached.

[@michaellittle226]

Can you shoot steel shot safely out of a smooth bore flintlock ?

[@paulhensley3823]

Hi Mike, could you tell me what was the common metal finish on the French fusel de chase shipped to the New France colonies?

[@johnveglio4433]

What do you think of using a .32 squirrel 🐿️ rifle on turkey 🦃, and where would you place the shot ????

[@duelist1954]

Head or chest. If you can shoot, it will kill them.

[@paulhensley3823]

Hi Mike, What was the most common metal finish on the fusil de chase's shipped to the New France colony? Thanks.

[@ROBV113]

They were browned.........

[@markdrinkard4150]

White

[@roberttolley2293]

wow nice load! that's a stopper 25 yds

[@keyote3]

Maybe a tad naive from the old country (Britain), but a question.... I have been using a muzzle loading Hawken smoothbore, Italian made, percussion piece of .50 calibre. I normally use about 55 grains with a decent handful of pellets on roosting pigeon in a nearby wood. What do you reckon on me using ball for a little target shooting, how accurate do you think it could be and is it worth my effort... ??

[@duelist1954]

+keyote3 Yes. You should get decent accuracy with patched round balls out to 80 or more yards.

[@smartacus88]

Do you think a larger size of shot, say #4 or maybe even #2 would've given better results at 40 yards?

[@garydowning2321]

Hope u are getting better looking for more content

[@sluggoa]

If after tipping the muzzle down and your powder would fall out...then what do you do?

[@diktatoralexander88]

sluggoa You could just fire normally. The powder will just burn I believe. Or just to be safe, just let it pour out and do it again.

[@ibpn4284]

is black powder more forgiving in that you could load a 90 grain charge by volume with a 165 patched round ball, and using the same powder charge load a 385 grain conical bullet without having a problem? I'm pretty sure you couldn't do that with smokeless powder, say 158 grain bullet over the same smokeless charge for a 95 grain bullet.

[@popojoeexplode]

iv tryed out conical loads in a smooth bore and the bullet tumbles without rifleing.

[@stevebuckskinner5482]

So is duelyst Den setup on your own property?

[@duelist1954]

Steve buckskinner 54 Yes it is.

[@stevebuckskinner5482]

Thanks for the quick response bro! And Merry Christmas to you and yours!

[@LanternLabs]

Holy crap, 3.6 drams of powder, 2oz shot out of a 20ga? I thought I was pushing my luck with 3 dram 1 1/4oz out of my 16ga....

[@olds442jr]

Where did u get the gun? Is it an India, Pedersoli or did someone else make it?

[@duelist1954]

Shawn Webster built it for me

[@Flyfisher79]

It didn't take me long to decide I want a fowler. What's a good, ready to shoot gun I can buy that won't break the bank? Under $1000.

[@duelist1954]

The Pedersoli Indian Trade Musket is the only one close. www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=2022&osCsid=vi7tjcl3bhnrgstcm7nioqjj65

[@Flyfisher79]

duelist1954 have you done the tvm fowler kit? I don't mind doing one, I just haven't done anything like it and don't want anything to technical.

[@duelist1954]

David Schirado I have not done their kits, but if you get the gun in the white, vs a kit, it only requires sanding and finishing.

[@wholeNwon]

What's the approx. breech pressure of a load that heavy?

[@duelist1954]

+wholeNwon No idea

[@hawkenrifles]

+duelist1954 A very good video on how pattern a flintlock shotgun 20 gauge (the French model of fusil de chasse). I do the same kind of shot pattern with a percussion shotgun caliber 12. Until either 25 or 28 meters, from 35 meters is more difficult to get a good shot pattern to hunt.

[@duelist1954]

Yes. Using a parched round ball, you should get decent 50 to 80 yard accuracy.

[@duelist1954]

Yes. Using a patched round ball, you should get decent 50 to 80 yard accuracy.

[@darrellgoodman9585]

@@hawkenrifles I have a T/C New Englander in 12ga I like it but do have trouble getting a good consistent pattern and I need to get a ball mold for it .I believe I can use a 72 cal ball not sure .

[@markhadley1545]

As a newbie looking to get into Black powder on a budget. Do you have any suggestions for a "budget" flintlock smooth bore?

[@duelist1954]

The only commercially made flintlock smoothbores are from Pedersoli...one civilian Indian trade gun, Brown Besses, or Charelvilles..any of them will run you about $1,000. For a couple of hundred more you can get a nice fowler from TVM...though all of that might be outside your budget

[@darrellgoodman9585]

MARK HADLEY You can get a Traditions Flintlock rifle for under 500. Dollars go on line check out cabelas or check Deer Creek Products. I just purchased a Traditions Flintlock rifle 50 cal 1/66 twist barrel Shenandoah model full stock plain for 480.00 .

[@d-rider905]

Hi mike I just purchased 20ga smooth bore flintlock, is it possible to load 3f goex I believe 3f burns faster would you load down a bit being 2021 powder is at a premium and can seem to find any 2f in my area

[@duelist1954]

Sure you can

[@d-rider905]

Thanks for the fast reply stay safe

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

That is a nice old gun. I think I would rather hunt turkey with a nice 20 gauge from this or the last century. Thanks for the video.

[@t.curran8243]

Back in the 70s in PA, we used #2 or #4 shot and you shot for the body, not the head.

[@twodogshawkeye9968]

was that kind of gun also used in the f&i war and American revolution by colonials

[@duelist1954]

Twodogs Hawkeye Yes

[@matthewpering8091]

Great example of how a no-choke scatter gun shoots. Range is everything. However, I would have been interested in a comparison of buck-and-ball to see if there was better or worse accuracy. Might just be a waste of ammo, but then again, with just a ball and a breast shot may do the trick. I know lots of people want to preserve their trophies, but if you are after food, that is just secondary.

[@darrellgoodman9585]

But some states may not allow ball to be used on Turkey I know Indiana doesn't allow ball just shot or I would try my 45cal rifle head shot at 30 to 40yds .

[@CapnSchep]

Did he say 100 grains of 2ff ...?

[@darrellgoodman9585]

Yep

[@hawkenrifles]

Un video muy bueno sobre cómo plomea una escopeta de chispa del calibre 20 (el modelo francés de fusil de chasse). Yo hago el mismo tipo de plomeo con una escopeta de pistón del calibre 12. Hasta 25 o 28 metros bien, a partir de 35 metros ya es más difícil conseguir un buen plomeo para cazar.

[@stoneblue1795]

Ahh, Bach.

[@steveww1507]

well done

[@D5quared91]

Should have said “Terrible Tom and the Gobbler Gang” :D

[@TheNickathome]

I think a 2 ounce load is a bit heavy for turkey hunting. IMO 1 1/2 oz and a 30 yard maximum shot will produce much better results. I won't even attempt a 40 yard shot with my modern shotguns even though I know many people have taken birds from that distance. I limit myself to 30 yards and allow my calling to lure the turkeys inside the kill zone.

[@jamesgenovese7319]

As you can see the futher you are, the worse it gets. (You have a blown pattern.) Having said that, the stardard load is the 68 gr of 1f Goex for every oz of shot and 30 yds. All modern ammo is loaded with this formula including any load you get on the shelfs today. That is what "2 Drams Equivalents" means. Then get a hard card cuttter and cut hard cards out of 1/4" paist board. 3-4 of them on the charge and another one split 2-3 times for an over shot card and you are done. And there is no reason for the gun to smack your a side of the head.

[@Lucio1974able]

I liked the video, but loved the sticker on the window "repudiate socialism"!! Very good Sir!!

[@kristinmay4297]

Pattern buckshot