I wish tube locks could be found here in the US. We have plenty of Austrian rifles that were converted prior to import for the Civil War, but to find one with a tube lock is incredibly rare.
@capandball Жыл бұрын
The are quite rare here as well. And finding a shooting piece is quite difficult.
@milanlanger-tf7rk Жыл бұрын
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@tommcewan7936 Жыл бұрын
People who even know about tube locks seem incredibly rare; they always seem to get skipped over in documentaries. The progression most commonly described seems to go "matchlock, wheellock, flintlock, caplock" and that's it. Interesting that it was an Austrian innovation; along with the Girandoni rifle, they really seem to have had a thing for having their own unique designs of experimental new weapons.
@Doribi1178 ай бұрын
@@tommcewan7936I love when people bring up the Girondoni rifle, such a beautiful yet sadly overlooked piece of equipment.
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Very interesting how the Austrian drills maintained the priming before the loading. Loved it.
@deletdis6173 Жыл бұрын
O snap I'm subscribed to you too. :D
@gabrielmendella Жыл бұрын
well, actually the French did also the same, their drill for firing with the percussion muskets 1842 and later patterns (1853, 1857) still started with priming, i.e. placing the percussion cap onto the nipple, after which the hammer was lowered over the cap, and then pushed back onto half-cock. Only then was the musket turned over and placed to the ground in a vertical position, in order to load with cartridge and ram down the charge. This was maybe done in order to make the new drill easier to learn for troops already trained in the earlier flintlock loading procedure, or else because it was felt that fiddling about with the cap to place onto the nipple when the loading charge with bullet was already rammed home into the barrel could potentially prompt accidents when in action in close order. Anyway, this drill was quite unique in this respect, because all other armies started with loading the charge and then placing the cap onto the nipple for priming.
@no-one3795 Жыл бұрын
Really cool. I've never heard of a tube lock musket before.
@SNOUPS4 Жыл бұрын
My favourite gun channels on KZbin are: - Capandball, - ForgottenWeapons (who made me discover Capandball), - C&Rsenal, - Jonathan Fergusson's fun interventions on Gamekult, - and sometimes InRangeTV! I never miss any video from the first two, ever!
@AA-dn8dj Жыл бұрын
1 and 3 are the only good ones. Don't forget about Duelist1954 as well.
@houseofchinn6112 Жыл бұрын
@@AA-dn8dj don't like Ian?
@Bibitybopitybacon Жыл бұрын
@@AA-dn8dj....did.. did you just shit talk gun Jesus? May he have mercy on your calibers...
@pontiusporcius8430 Жыл бұрын
You should check out kentucky ballistics, its like a red green fpsrussia.
@LowtusMob Жыл бұрын
@@AA-dn8djImagine hating on Ian, Brandon, Garand Thumb and Admin Results
@hickorysplitter9185 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comparisons, I was unaware of the tubelock system until you showed them here and in past videos. I also agree with you about the flintlock, being unpredictable. Here in Illinois during the hot humid months they can be quite frustrating. Your videos are highly appreciated by me!
@grizwoldphantasia5005 Жыл бұрын
Ditto for never having heard of the tubelock. I can get percussion caps easily; no idea where to get tubelock primers. Something to investigate.
@killerkraut9179 Жыл бұрын
I have heard about a skandinavian tinder mushrom lock !
@cameronmccreary4758 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demonstration of the muskets. When percussion locks came out the makers did alot of experimental lockbwork. I like that safe, concealed percussion explosion lock.
@OnTheRiver66 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the detailed history and demonstration of these firearms. I didn’t know about the tube lock, and I’m surprised it wasn’t more prevalent since it looks a lot easier to handle than the small percussion caps. Of course the development of revolvers would insure that tube locks would go out of use. I also didn’t know that the development of priming compounds was on-going with the transition to percussion caps. I often wondered why percussion caps were not invented earlier and that explains it. And I can easily imagine that the use of a fulminate as a propellant in an artillery piece did not go well! Great video!
@denisdegamon8224 Жыл бұрын
Your sir are an awsome Utuber. Your content and video presentation is outstanding and historically informative.
@kingmultichaos1505 Жыл бұрын
The tube system was new to me, really cool to see it in action. Maybe you could put more historical background in another episode.
@Adui13 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I thought I knew a bit about black powder arms, but I don't remember the tube lock. This was enlightening!
@andrewbarthel8224 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating topic and awesome exploration
@bengthermansson556 Жыл бұрын
always a treat to watch Capandball channel. Thank you
@smilingwolf1980 Жыл бұрын
I have never seen a real tubelock before. That is very interesting!
@johncashwell1024 Жыл бұрын
The demonstration was telling. I had come to believe that the change occurred because it was faster. Not so, it was far more reliable.
@Kaboomf Жыл бұрын
More reliable leads to increased rate of fire overall from a unit, so kind of faster but only when considering how misfires slow you down. Also safer, as it reduces the risk of someone double loading a musket after a misfire and then getting ignition on the second attempt.
@LarryDeSilva64 Жыл бұрын
Always a joy to see your videos. The comparisons of these three different lock types and the firing of each was executed perfectly. Plus the historical significance of each change was also very illuminating. Thank you for another great video.
@JORGE_BRASILEIRO Жыл бұрын
I am a capandball enthusiast, i like so much your videos.
@rogerjclarke Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative. Thanks for the simple explanation of the workings of these historic firearms. Another excellent post from this channel.
@davemeise2192 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you.
@syborgcat3830 Жыл бұрын
6:31 that smile is so heart warming
@nunyabizness4354 Жыл бұрын
I also had not seen a tube lock before. I had read of it, but never seen it. Interesting manual of arms for all 3. Thanks for the very informative content!
@jordanezell5132 Жыл бұрын
I’ve probably been with this channel since 2014, and I’ve enjoyed every second of it! Bless you! 🙂
@capt.bart.roberts4975 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the tube lock to me, I never quite understood how it worked and was loaded.
@greyman80055 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation! Thank you.
@sandmanhh67 Жыл бұрын
Great video brother and thanks for the fascinating comparison. To me the tubelock looks the most fiddly of the three but I can see why it ws adopted over the flintlock.
@daveyjoweaver6282 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kindly for this amazing video! Just yesterday I was shooting my 1829 N. Starr Middleton, Conn. 69cal. It was a 1814 model that was flintlock and converted to cap and ball by the US Army. Very much like the muskets you fire here. The art and beauty of these old firearms has always fascinated me and the soldiers who used them. Thank You Again and Many Blessings! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
@657449 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the detailed explanations.
@Biggusdickus721 Жыл бұрын
I have a beautiful original 1892 winchester in 44-40. Due to the difficulty of finding hunting loads for it i have begun to reload my own cartridges, your videos helped to inspire me in this undertaking as well as watching your hunting videos.
@frankgaletzka8477 Жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank für dieses hervorragende Video. Es ist immer wieder interessant die Entwicklung zu sehen und die Gewehre life in Aktion zu sehen. Vielen Dank für Ihre Mühe Alles Gute Frank Galetzka
@bc30cal99 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from the mountains of south central BC, thanks for the video. We almost never see tube lock arms here and it's always educational to see an original in action. Thanks so much sir, stay well.
@rhyspelikan Жыл бұрын
great informative content, love your work as always :D learning about this period of history is so much better when you can show exactly how these weapons operate and what is possible with a person who is adept at using them
@charlesperry5890 Жыл бұрын
One of your best videos so far, learned so much about the transition from Flintlock to Percussion.
@timothyruggles3031 Жыл бұрын
It makes my day to see your cap and ball review of history.
@556suppressor Жыл бұрын
I think some Civil War soldiers put their ramrods into the ground instead of pulling it out from the rifle each round. That saved time in reloading.
@jesseusgrantcanales Жыл бұрын
ONLY when it was permitted and in rare cases, most returned the rod because if they had to move suddenly? Congrats you lost your rod.
@gabrielmendella Жыл бұрын
this was actually done by many soldiers even earlier, as early as firearms were introduced probably, but only in static firefights when there was no need or will to change position, either advancing or retreating, otherwise you could easily leave your ramrod behind!
@deniskozlowski9370 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I've heard references to the tube lock but this is the first time I've been given a detailed explanation of it's use. Not to mention, seeing one fired.
@rebeccaback3287 Жыл бұрын
Verry good shooting as usual! I appreciate the video, and the interesting history of the flintlock, the caplock, and the tube lock.David Back from Menifee county Kentucky USA.
@gerry343 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you could load the flintlock as fast as the other two systems.
@DAKOTA56777 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's mainly the loading of the primary charge and round down the barrel that takes up the majority of time, the priming is relatively insignificant comparatively.
@robcampbell3235 Жыл бұрын
"Ya know how you get to Carnegie Hall?" Practice, practice, practice. 😊
@markcooper6736 Жыл бұрын
Great show as Always.!!
@csorgb05 Жыл бұрын
Some of the American channels have been testing the accuracy of smooth bore muskets. The best accuracy combination kind of defies logic. One would think that a tightly patched round ball would be the most accurate, but turns out it is not. The best accuracy came from the ball being placed directly on the powder with a wad material over top it, to keep it compressed. The theory is that the gasses from the charge keep the ball centered in the bore. Groups tended to be tighter when the gun was fired in this manner. Maybe you could try testing various powder, ball, patch and wad combinations to see what your end results are for accuracy.
@capandball Жыл бұрын
I was competing in international matches with my musket. the best groups I shot were unpatched loads. 80 grain FFg Swiss powder + a felt wad + .682 ball + felt wad worked quite good in my original Harpers Ferry musket.
@gabrielmendella Жыл бұрын
quite interesting, this mirrors what was usually done with the loading drills of most armies, we tend to think that they just threw the open cartridge into the barrel as it was, but actually soldiers were taught to first reverse the cartridge in order to shake all the powder into the barrel, then reverse it and push it into the barrel bullet-end first, with the paper tube on top. Ramming down the charge would effectively push the paper tightly onto the top of the bullet as a sort of wad, as you said, thus avoiding too much gas to escape around the bullet. Too often we tend to assume that people back then were unaware of the basics of ballistics, they were not! Most officers were in fact hunters (and a few soldiers too), they knew how to use firearms to the best effect, and the loading drills were really meant to get the best from the men both in terms of speed, safety, and accuracy. In combat of course not everything went by the book, or as well as on the drill square, but this applies to every epoch, even today! When we say that flintlocks were inefficient because they only hit their marks one out of 200 or even 453 times, we tend to forget that in modern combat the actual hitting ratios are much lower than that!
@robertrobert7924 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison video. A friend of mine was shooting his Pedersoli Lorenz rifle on Monday, 3-6-23 at our club range to practice for this weekend competitive shoot @NSSA Ft. Shenandoah, Winchester, Va. USA.
@herotroll1 Жыл бұрын
Hello! I have a video suggestion - how does it sound to be at the receiving end of a musket? How does it sound when the lead ball flies by? I'd really like to know what soldiers heard when walking into a volley. Thanks.
@capandball Жыл бұрын
I can place a remote camera an microphone downrange.
@herotroll1 Жыл бұрын
@@capandball Yes, that would be amazing!
@houseofchinn6112 Жыл бұрын
I mean there's plenty of other vids on youtube for that...
@killerkraut9179 Жыл бұрын
@@capandball I have haerd about a skandinavian tinder mushroom look ,do you know about it?
@kerorogunso961 Жыл бұрын
I have been studying history and reenacted American Revolution and Civil War for years, and I'm just now finding out about this tube lock mechanism. Thanks for the info!
@briansherrillruralliving9708 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't aware of a tubelock. Learn something new all the time
@thatsthewayitgoes9 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Snowwarrior Жыл бұрын
flawless video
@whulfri8890 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video. It was a joy to watch, as always.
@PJ35 Жыл бұрын
Very informative, I didn’t know about the tube lock system very cool
@Caederre Жыл бұрын
I am happy everytime you upload. Gonna enjoy the video later today. Have a great weekend.
@smithsphotography1 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Love the living history you share.
@AussieInCA11 Жыл бұрын
Love the channel and the attention to detail ❣️
@rudynorvelle2870 Жыл бұрын
I have Flintlock and a Percussion Lock muskets, but as someone previously mentioned the tube locks are very hard to find here in the United States. Thatn you for the very good video.
@galenhisler396 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff, thank you🤠
@cyclonetaylor7838 Жыл бұрын
I know that this has little bearing on this video , but about 45 years ago at a black powder rendezvous our camp came under fire from 3 or 4 people above us with modern rifles. We were only armed with flintlock trade guns and a few rifled flinters. 15 or so of us returned fire and drove off the psychos that were shooting at us.
@ludecom-cz1wz Жыл бұрын
I learned something today.
@straightpipec6099 Жыл бұрын
Nice one sir
@richwirtz1404 Жыл бұрын
Always love the videos.......great information!
@aneesuddinmansoori1599 Жыл бұрын
Good video
@viktordtz20809 ай бұрын
Interesting system! never hear about it. Thanks... What a pity that the little firing lanyard didn't open the paper cartridge when is cut... So, the step "opening with teeth" became useless.
@Stevenyoung100 Жыл бұрын
Channel blowing up! Dark arts god! 🎉
@niclbicl Жыл бұрын
Wonderful Video!
@GizmoDuck_1860 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you for all the effort you put into these. I wish there were more tube-locks here in the UK. I have seen only one, and I never got to shoot it. Thank you for confirming the loading steps, too. See, Bernard Cornwall!? You don't "bite the bullet off" then spit it down the barrel, you hack! Sorry. I really hate Bernard Cornwall. Back to the muskets.
@Ligma76714 Жыл бұрын
Man, I love those gun very beautiful 👍
@w.p.958 Жыл бұрын
Very cool video!
@anomalyp8584 Жыл бұрын
What I wonder is why it isn't an issue using the ramming rod time and time again. It would seem to me that you scratch the inside of the barrel. Insane grouping by the way...at that distance and that speed!
@jeffshootsstuff Жыл бұрын
You can see why it was required that musketry soldiers had at least 2 functioning teeth LOL
@capandball Жыл бұрын
The Augustin cartridge could be opened by hand as well according to the drill, not just by the teeth.
@janrobertbos Жыл бұрын
NICE, once again!!!
@stinkeye46011 ай бұрын
I find if I use flints, either broken arrowheads or agate, I have less misfires than with percussion caps.
@SNOUPS4 Жыл бұрын
Potassium perchlorate, not potassium chloride, at first I misheard :) Lead, mercury residue to breath in... sounds healthy haha Luckily you're well aware of all symtoms of saturnism and mercury intoxication, so you'd notice if anything were wrong ;)
@annie_Na008 ай бұрын
So a difference, in terms of ignition with the percussion rifle is that you have to keep replacing the caps instead of the gunpowder in the pan and one directly ignites the main charge through the touch hole in the nipple reaching the main charge in the bridge of the barrel? Can someone please clarify my accuracy in this or not i’m learning about this through the Sepoys’s rebellion between the British and the Indians and they got really interested in. How rifle work now. I’m referring to the difference using 2:45-3:07 and 8:04-10:05.
@cocoaandsassy Жыл бұрын
For your fans in the United States, it would be greatly appreciated if you could state specifications, such as bore diameter, weight of projectile and powder charge etc. in both metric and imperial measurements. Unfortunately those of us in the USA are totally unfamiliar with metric measurements. Thank you for your consideration in this matter.
@user-zf4jz9jp2e Жыл бұрын
Всегда что то новое для меня.
@kemenceierdeimuzeumvasut8956 Жыл бұрын
Carrying, aiming with these rifles are not easy 'cause they are quite heavy and also very long. The caplock is 1500mm long...
@iduswelton9567 Жыл бұрын
I always enjoyed firing the cap & ball rifles in my godfathers collection except when i was a young teen and had trouble holding up the weapon because it was so long and barrel heavy lol
@chrisgabbert658 Жыл бұрын
👍😊 your three shots a minute, I’m one shot in three minutes 🤷♂️😂.
@capandball Жыл бұрын
:)
@balazstoth2359 Жыл бұрын
Jó lenne egy magyar verzió a kémiai gyujtásos elöltöltős fegyverekből!
@jackchat19 Жыл бұрын
0:29 Shouldn't you close your eyes before shooting?
@jesseusgrantcanales Жыл бұрын
My one issue unless it was in your nation's drill manual, you do NOT remove the cap until you have reloaded, it keeps any embers in the breech from flaring up when air is exposed, if you remove the cap before reloading, the sudden draft could heat embers up and ignite your load before you ram the cartridge.
@capandball Жыл бұрын
Actually I only have one original source from this period from my country. The military drills here were written for flintlock and tube lock.
@jesseusgrantcanales Жыл бұрын
@@capandball Makes sense, spooky however but explains it; I would hope some poor soul in the past did not get a cook-off in battle, might have happened.
@jesseusgrantcanales5 ай бұрын
How many grams of powder is used?? According to a converter that I found, it tells me you are loading 134 grains of powder??? In a roughly .68 or .69 caliber barrel??? That is ALOT of powder!
@phileas007 Жыл бұрын
short question, why do you always replace the ramrod? Would it not be faster to keep it in your hand or in the belt?
@sololukmanchannel4578 Жыл бұрын
Potassium + Sulfur Where can you Find it, friend? How to find out what to hit online
@billskinner623 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a most informative session. Have you tried longer range shooting with those? !00 meter to 200 meters?
@rain8767 Жыл бұрын
I noticed that you were struggling a little when pulling out the ramrod from the channel and it makes me wonder if there are incidents back then where ramrods get stuck from from the gun due to poor maintenance and battlefield dirt and render the soldier unable to load his musket. And even if it isn't completely stuck a soldier would waste time and energy from pulling the ramrod out of a tight channel, perhaps it's one of the reason jaegers carry ramrods in their bandoliers instead of their rifles?
@debojitbiswas9168 Жыл бұрын
According to you which gun is better
@renathaswanson2300 Жыл бұрын
Please support Mike Bellevue everyone. The duelest den is under attack!
@capandball Жыл бұрын
I already posted it to my subscribers.
@danielhess1082 Жыл бұрын
Cool to see the tubelock in action. I've only ever seen one in a book about arms and equipment used by Union and Confederate forces during the American Civil War, some were imported for use during the ACW. I don't think they were ever as prevalent as cap locks and were probably more rare then flintlocks in that conflict Don't think I've ever seen anyone put a percussion cap on the nipple before loading the charge. I've always been taught to load, leaving the hammer down on the spent cap, then prime with a new cap.
@Nick-wn1xw Жыл бұрын
Military vs civilian. A carry over from flintlock days.
@theprancingprussian Жыл бұрын
Vs wheel lock
@SB-qm5wg Жыл бұрын
I guess they needed good teeth for all that biting.
@tonydrago3758 Жыл бұрын
What did you use for the paper to hold the charge and ball
@capandball Жыл бұрын
wrapping paper from the post office.
@woodspecialist83 Жыл бұрын
Tubelock... that one is skipped in alot of us firearm history. I would say that from 1850 to 1900 almost every army changed arsenal 3x
@brandonwhittle676218 күн бұрын
THIS IS WHAT YOU GONNA DO?
@Ohmy1956 Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t aware of the tube type priming system. Most likely because I didn’t see anything about it in the USA. European only?
@egoalter1276 Жыл бұрын
Austrian, specifically. It was meant as an option to convert flintlocks without having to build entirely new lockwork. In the end it wasnt quiet possible because of tje non interchangable nature of parts at the time, but austria still adopted it, and it worked as well as caps did.
@raduradu24 Жыл бұрын
where is the tube in the tube lock musket ?
@capandball Жыл бұрын
The primer is the tube.
@raduradu24 Жыл бұрын
@@capandball oh thx , I didn't saw that
@FrankSinatraTheSecond Жыл бұрын
Average Caplock fan vs average flintlock enjoyer
@FrankSinatraTheSecond Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on a blunderbuss
@capandball Жыл бұрын
If I can get one yes.
@Tammy-un3ql Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@ArnoSchmidt70 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what his wife has to say about explosions coming form the living room. 😀
@capandball Жыл бұрын
She's used to it. :)
@chpet1655 Жыл бұрын
Hey KZbin I’m going to get an Ad block all because you can’t control yourself with the number of ads. PS pls choke on Hickok45s Python ! Sorry but it was ridiculous lately on every single channel and I was always hoping to give the channels some ad revenue so I wouldn’t block everything but I’m done with being nice
@danpit2001 Жыл бұрын
it is my opinion that tubelock would have replaced flintlock in military arms if the flintlocks they were converting had better part interchangeability instead of being mostly hand finished with so many size differences making conversions so difficult
@capandball Жыл бұрын
Agree.
@sidekickbob7227 Жыл бұрын
Don't you think high risk of detonation with the first version version of the lock, is playing a larger role? Hand made, not interchangeable parts, was the norm. And they where very good at it. The labour was cheap, but the material was more expensive. History tells us they did a lot of changes with the old muskets, everywhere. For example; I got a 1774 Kronborg (danish) where the flintlock was made into percussion 1841, and in 1851, the original barrel was rifled. So in other words, they upgraded 75 year old muskets. The risk of detonation described with the first version, is in my view a greater reason. Military equipment must always be made as close to fool proof as possible.
@EXO9X8 Жыл бұрын
Me bets on the tube lock
@prakashgggg9788 Жыл бұрын
i me indea
@stinkeye46011 ай бұрын
Atillia would have been proud of you Hungarians today. You stood up against the EU to protect your people and country from the Syrian invaders.