Flite Test - Super Cub LP Mod - Build Talk

Super Cub LP gets modified with a brushless outrunner motor, split flaps and ailerons!
Josh and David narrate through the entire build of this Super Club LP in this edition of Talk & Build.
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Thanks for your support!

[@MADelectriCITY]

What I like about this format is that you see every step he's doing. Most of my building techniques probably come from watching Josh build things but there are times I know it would help to see ALL the steps like this.

[@epicdigitalfilms]

I really like this video. I think a lot of people don't realize that these videos are extra (being made on top of the existing ones and not replacing them). You can't even call this an episode because it wasn't meant to be one. I would love to see a video like this but with a quadcopter or David's main trycopter! Keep up the great work guys!

[@earlneal]

Personally, I like the new format. I get more from your detailed explanations. Have always thought of buying one of these and doing an aileron mod. Now I think I will for sure, and include the flaps too.

[@AnthonyRamosHiFiWiFi]

I really liked this format guys please keep it up. Question/Request.... With all of the people making video's with the help that you have given us, there is one area that I'm sure that most of us could use a few lessons on, and that is doing something with the raw video we get from flying and putting it into something that looks good vs just slapping a not on the back of the video and posting it. My request is a mini series about making a FPV video.

[@aerialboy55]

My friend has 3 of these cubs, all modified with ailerons, brushless motors and all painted with yellow rustoleum paint! One has a park480 motor, one has a park10, and the other a park 15. This thing is a trainer on steroids! Sometimes the wing likes to "U" so he put a CF spar in the wing.

[@yellowleafproduction7221]

Nice! Have one, have a brushless ready and just bought a new wing for it, and am going to try this conversion.

[@brainfood5]

Great upgrades, I haven't flown my cub in about a year. Now I want to with the upgrades . Great video!

[@hawkskyflier]

Very nice build David. I did the exact same thing with my SC, but didn't have the same results. Although I've rebuilt but I think I'll have to try the carbon in the wing! Nice. Keep it coming!!! Thanks a bunch. Jery

[@kayakdave7287]

I followed the suggestions from this build with my Supercub LP and I love how they turned out. Now my Cub flies so much better! It's definatly not the trainer that I started with 3 years ago. Now the control response is crisp, not spongy like with the stock floppy wing and rudder control. First off I removed the dihedral from the wing and stiffened it with a carbon fiber spar. Then I did the aileron mod with the hot glue hinges- my first and very easy. I also added a power 10 890kv brushless motor and 40 amp speed controll. The motor is over-kill, but it is a lot of fun to fly. Thanks Flight Test!

[@KevinGenus]

Just happened onto this video. Absolutely loved the build with the commentary. I think you've figured out how to do it the right way. Although many people would dislike this suggestion, you could probably have another window for the products you mention... could probably monetize your efforts in that manner. (Just a thought). Anyway, great job!

[@Oljay81]

Totally agree, a swappable Cub will be awesome (with David's accent of course :p). I'll go even further: - "beginner" swappable Cub, elev., rudder and throttle - "intermediate" kit to add ailerons control (+ flaps options)

[@sailorjohn2224]

I put a xt400 on the s cub about 6 yrs ago, could do loops until I got bored ,but on a hot day sit in the shade on a chair and just -- fly. Then just buying parts cost 65 dollars. I have watched people who insisted on teaching themselves were able to fly but was way more expensive for repair parts. I did rout a slot in the bottom for an arrow shaft. And actually have building a 2nd one for two years.

[@RoryGoesFishing]

Love the new format with the running commentary, but i miss the collaboration when it comes to the flights if you know what i mean, it's nice to see your reactions when something goes wrong and when something goes right :) it would be nice if you could do a combination of the two styles to change it up and keep things interesting :) E.G. the rocket plane wouldn't have been nearly as interesting with a running commentary, it really worked having all of you there watching it. Love all your vids!!!

[@MrJasperDaniel]

Awesome! Nice new format! You should do modifications more often.

[@Dragon69FlyTeam]

Well i like it. This are not new things working out, but i like to see the litle things i didn't tought about like reinforsing the flaps with glue and such small stuff. Keep it up love to see more :) Sorry for my bad english, Greetings from the Netherlands (NL)

[@mrubin0818]

I really enjoyed the new format.

[@wendtb]

That format is ok, however I think it would be good to cut in to David when he is explaining a point when building, such as the split flaps. And also hearing the flight at the end would be good. Keep up the good work

[@molldenn]

I really like the new kind of eps! Nice long nerdy talk :-) Dennis - Denmark

[@cfknock52]

Hey, guys. I've slowly been getting up to date on the episodes, trying to get into the hobby. The one thing that I did notice is that Josh tried to identify the style of Flap that David modified into the wing as a Fowler Flap. This is indeed a Split flap, and not a Fowler flap. The Fowler is a Split that slides back and down to increase camber on the wing to DRASTICALLY increase the lift of the wing. I loved the build and modification, and I can't wait to see what you're going to post after your European adventures. (Reference : www.skybrary.aero/index.php/Flaps )

[@graplingurty]

I like the way you presented this great stuff....

[@superbrunoMQ]

intuitive....very nice once more....acomplished successfully episode format....regards

[@Firecow23]

Great format i would love more build vids!!

[@plowboyh6054]

Love the mod very clean my lp is next Thanks

[@JoeDredd2012]

Cool new format guys I fly a Mulitplex FunCub with the power package outrunner set up Horizion Hobby recommends for it talk about cool baddass power swinging a 13x4 prop with a 3 cell nenotach 2650 I too use a old futaba 8UAF tx with a FrSky modual and 8 channel rec I have split flaps on there pretty munch the same set up David has.

[@azz_dav]

I love my HZ super cub, it has let me grow with the hobby and learn how to mod as i go. It is almost unrecognisable from the nice clean new one but i love it!

[@KustiIisakki]

great new format, like it.

[@FreerideBerlin]

I love the new format :D

[@orlandofurioso2007]

Very nice format. Can you explain "thermo-glue hinges" concept more?

[@rsundhar]

Great video!!

[@IbnAir23]

Bicker I'm still eating to see that elaborate battery setup you have of your collection. Will u share that a us?

[@RolexDSSD]

That's awesome!

[@davovinch]

Manuel, they already did the FunCub

[@strixnebulosa1046]

There are a lot of people involved in the production of Flite Test in addition to the talent in front of the camera. Chad's company pays these people's wages while they work on the show, and expensive company-owned equipment is utilized in the production, so yes, his company is the sponsor. If you are so upset with Chads 'psyops', 'dirty advertisement tactics' and 'self sponsoring' maybe you should just stop watching.

[@adriankristiansen4792]

I used to have a SuperCub when I was younger but I didn't know how to fly RC planes then so my dad was flying it. About halfway through the flight the speed controller burnt up (READ: All the power went through the speed controller to the servos, receiver...etc) and the plane started smoking and because it was the speed controller the plane nosedived from the loss of power and hit the ground so hard the entire thing basically disintegrated D: It got replaced with a Stinson Reliant that I still have today.

[@sadlr]

Awesome video guys. Can anyone tell me what spinner he put on there? Looks like a small aluminum one but I can't seem to find one anywhere. I have a 9x6 wood prop on my LP and the stock spinner doesn't fit correctly. Thanks!

[@BruceParmele]

I Agree!

[@bezie69]

please do a go-pro, in cockpit with ejection "seat", or something, and parachute of course. meybe rocket powered, i dont know. that would be awesome!!

[@mikasan1975]

David, what do you listen to while you build? :)

[@torritoist]

You can get the individual parts without servo, motor, and receiver for $75 bux. Why buy the completed model and throw out the ferrite motor, servos, and receiver if you are not going to use them? BTW, the complete RTF is fine just the way it is for beginners. This is one of the very best models out of the box- a genius design.

[@1959cutter1]

the wide angle lens needs to go,but like I said before its a great format

[@yellowbluerc5047]

when i asked chat he told me he just bought them because they looked cool. bixler:ohh the one with the knuckle.... if. bixler understands they look cool

[@VeenWHO]

is it possible to make the ailerons act like flaps, but still have some roll autority left? if so, please flight test teach us :D im imagining that some kind of board and programming is needed, just put the sweed in the basement with a soldering station and an old pc motherboard. give him some surströming for fuel :D

[@bensvoboda6632]

You can do this in your radio. It's called flaperons.

[@FliteTest]

Wow! Seems like we have a very split crowd on this one... Don't worry, we're not changing anything. We just thought we'd try something new. Once in a while we like to mix it up a bit. We appreciate all the feedback! -Chad

[@phamtom72]

hey guys..when you gonna step up.. and build a swappable Super cub.. with some tundra tires..??? i mean it is prolly theee most popular trainer plane out there!!

[@kkrampus]

Before I binned my Super Cub (pre-LP 27mhz version) I decided to use 3s Lipos instead of the 7-8 cell NiMH batteries supplied. And boy, it got a second life. It would easily fly vertical with the brushed motor and I was doing inverted flight and barrel rolls without ailerons!

[@DoktorSativa]

It's so wonderful to see everyone so happy and friendly. It genuinely comes through. Keep up the great work!

[@GorillaFPV4life]

Does anyone know what the stock motor specs are (how many turns). And what would be a good replacement brushed motor for the Super Cub S. I would appreciate any help please and thank you! 😁

[@aldoyosbel1728397263]

I NEED HELP I BUILD A NEW AIRPLANE AND I HAVE PROBLEM TO FIND THE CG AND I WAS WONDER ME IF AXIS GYRO SYSTEM STABILIZER WILL HELP ME IN CASE THAT I HAVE WRONG CG

[@danwaud3149]

Nice job. If your camera did not fish-eye I could have seen a better final view. I'm doing the same mod to a crashed Super Cub wing, not too bad, and uncrashed fuse. Thanks for the great ideas.

[@SVSky]

Built a lot of these for training new pilots. Exactly the same process and setup.

[@jandemsar3542]

Your son must be a lucky kid hahaha

[@biffoswilly]

How did you make the motor mount - have you a detailed method of doing this? I am changing out my brushed motor to a 1400kV Brushless is this the correct size

[@nickleo0430]

How did you choose the brushless motor size because I am looking nat doing this brushless conversion on my plane finally. Had this plane for years

[@RCllamadude]

love this new format, please do more!

[@mattivirta]

stupid place build house, normal human build in forest no center anythink and could wing come lot and no have good anythink. ugly place.

[@w.j.bendellr.c.flying.1037]

Now I have to do mine 😂 Believe it or not I still have mine open the attic. (Old school). It’s Project time🤔😉.

[@FPVREVIEWS]

new format is fine. it's the content that is important. good job.

[@mattivirta]

nice new format, build or buy plane and make this some own modification then fly realistic and better. good job.

[@TimoBirnschein]

This format is good, but it lacks the visual details. Obviously it does not eat up that much production time - I mean you guy usually really nail it as far as production quality goes! Two cameras, seperate microphone and audio guy, two hosts and a producer... that's quality that I really enjoy watching! This format is better to handle in production but if possible make it a once in a while format - but it's way better than having no video comming out, though!

[@JaredReabow]

I love the sound of the brushed cub! To make your guys life easier just replace the brushed motor with a high KV brushless in the mount, make sure the shaft of the new motor is the same as the brushed so you can just slide on the gear. This means no custom mounts ect, literally screw the brushless into the brushed place.

[@Holytoledo86]

I couldn't exactly see how he made those hot glue hinges. Any suggestions or instructions? Thanks guys.

[@Ripstop_pilot]

new format is a nice idea guys! but how about speed up the build more. it is very long. and the small screen needs to be in a traditional format of you guys infront of a camera not a laptop! maybe quickly swap from one screen to the next? be good to get a mention too? russell winters

[@bman9469]

Built not bought. That's how to start off. Repairs are cheap and easy to fix

[@sorenmonroe-anderson6345]

You guys should sell these as kits!

[@juanvicuna739]

hi how are you, great video i want to do the same modification on my super cub, please i need to know the dimensions of the aileron and flap length and widht please help me with that information thanks

[@benellias87]

Hey guys... Is there amy idea how to make a nice looking scale water rudder for that little plane....?

[@Haparelli]

This is fantastic guys. Nostalgic for all the folks who've owned one of these cubs, but also interesting for anyone who likes to tinker. Loved the running commentary of the mods. Thanks for your efforts :)

[@TheGospelGuitarist]

This is an awesome episode. I have the plane, now trying to get out and fly the thing after lots of sim time. Like this format for the builds. But yeah, the bubble look is hard to watch.

[@garrettspaeth1757]

Hey Dave I was wondering if you had any plans for the mod and if there is could you send me a copy.

[@thechristiancuber2716]

I have been thinking about doing this because my super cub is SO under powder

[@miguelangelsimonfernandez5498]

You could achieve the same with 2 servos instead of 4 in the wing

[@MittDinTube]

About the format: A bit weird with having you picture in picture, but this type of episode made it a bit more like a podcast, great for listening to when doing other stuff. Not the same entertainment value thou. And David, you missed the golden rule when testing radio programming. Remove the propeller. I know that you know what your doing, but your supposed to be a role model here now ;) Varma hälsningar från Sverige, the spring is finally here now.

[@81Kush]

aileron are Not too overpowered* and the elevator trim slightly upward i mean. just throw it and if its not over throttled and trimed anywere close it should just head up and away from you. either to the right or the left. wait a second for it to begin to fly. one or two seconds. then imput just a bit the way you want or need to go. just bank and yank dont use any rudder until you fly well. dont try and takeoof from the ground and your best bet for landing is tall grass feilds. i started wsith

[@81Kush]

Hey i feal ya, Try to do a throw take off, about 1/3 to 2/3 rds throttle depending on the power, but not too much or it will torque roll, a bit of up elevator, and throw 30 degree upward with power on and Dont over input. inputs are only bumped like buttons not held. or you will over compensate. make sure your ailerons are too overpowqered or the same will happen you will over correct

[@MrFoster91]

I agree with azbdm that you feel disconnected but for a build vid you feel like you get more of a explanation on the hole plane any way for a crazy idea on making a trainer plane insane I recon the video is ok cuz your not building it from scratch so you don't need to now with every detail its a job just whacking it together and telling us what mods you put on the plane. But I do love you guys you are the best helicopter plane quad Hollywood stars guys, as a rc plane lover could not ask for a

[@MrFoster91]

Withe the drone 2.0 radio, you will have to change most of the internals, it's much better to buy a 60 beat controller from apple or other leading markets, but if you wanna go with range with a radio system then a video would be a awesome idea on the subject, I am a little upset that parrot have got rid of the tilt mode on the drone, like josh said, it's really hard to fly the drone with the sticks on the pad because you can not fill them, that is why I got the 60 or 50 beat control.

[@azbdm]

First off no matter what I love your guys videos! But I have to agree with what most have said so far, in that, its just does not seem as much fun to watch. You do feel like your disconnected from whats happening. I feel I missed something when Chad came in and talked to David its the candor that makes your videos so different. In your other videos we the viewer feel like we are just hanging out in the basement/garage or field with you guys talking about the things we love planes!

[@mikbacitube]

I think the split flaps are a bit of an overkill. it is a trainer and probably that it is why it is 3 channels to start with. Definitely ailerons and maybe a 3 way switch programmed with flaperons . Or even better get a spare wing, learn on the original wing ( 3 channels ) and then swap the new wing in to learn on the next level ( 4/6 channels)

[@nigelholland1811]

How did I miss this one. Very cool guys. Come back David

[@JoshWelsh]

I dig the format! One suggestion I have was when you're discussing the "knuckle" hinges or other items that are smaller, maybe cut the main video to a quick still close-up of that item, while leaving the pnp action in the corner. Nice build, I always love watching David's creations!

[@OzParkPilot]

Flite Test - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a " how to build " series on Davids impressive " over the top ground station " and maybe sell kits ? These will sell like hot cakes to a fat kid !

[@81Kush]

zero know how and crashed a fuckload my first plane was a edge 540 3d ready and that was a mistake lol! best of luck im down to chat any time if you need more help getting off the ground!

[@wordreet]

Excellent mods. The original Piper Super Cub has a thinner airfoil (USA 35B) which has a very mild under camber. So if this model was true to that you could not do the split flaps.

[@petejulie1000]

So, more glue repairs result in a better aircraft? Ya know, I think yer right. Or, maybe we become more familiar with the bird. Anyway, I agree because the worst mine look, the better they perform. I have planes so trashed that I won't bring them to the public flying field for fear so embarrassment. However, in my out back pasture, they are beautiful. Homely girls make faithfull lovers. Airplanes too?

[@3DPDK]

From an "old school" plastics and fiberglass tech - If the foam is polystyrene (Styrofoam) solvents for it are Acetone, Gasoline, Ketone, Most 2 part epoxies are urethane based: - Ketone will dissolve most urethane based epoxies - how quickly depends on the epoxy's stage of cure. - Gasoline will not dissolve cured urethane epoxy, but it will hasten oxidation so clean the part with a good "grease cutting" soap after the process. - Acetone will not dissolve or oxidize urethane in any state.

[@stoffer717]

As a creative soul I can appreciate the build talk. But actually it's more because I've really become a fan of your show and a member of Flitetest web and forum, that I watched through it. It was stretched a bit long. Like some comments here, I agree on maybe doing some close ups for the details like the splitflaps and glue hinges, cutting down the straight forward build. Simply because you guys allready have a great format on the reviews and build videos. I like that you try new things though

[@geneticallyinferior1]

lots of flitetest viewers are kids and some are (excuse the bluntness) just plain stupid. some of us we know that chad has studied psychology/dirty advertisement tactics and has grown that into a profitable business - nice house and property, foreign luxury vehicles (nothing is shittier than an american car lol) be honest and straight forward. us viewers will continue to support the show (and chad's lifestyle) without the psy-ops trickery

[@geneticallyinferior1]

would be nice if u would stop incorrectly using the term "sponsoring." flitetest is FUNDED by the retail sales of the kits and it was always PRODUCED by chad's company. you cannot self sponsor! when hobbyking/horizon "sponsored" flitetest episodes which showcased it's own products. that was NOT sponsorship! that was a paid advertisement. an infomercial. now if hobbyking paid for this episode, then it would be a real sponsorship. chad - please stop trying to MANIPULATE people with ur psy-ops!

[@nicknielsen1269]

I really didn't like this it felt cheap and didn't have that personal feel that I like from your episodes, especially the build type episodes. This format might be fine for a view response platform since you show alot of clips in those any way but I feel that an episode like this needs to be approached the way you used too do it. Your personality and the high quality of your instructional videos is why I started watching in the first place. Time laps is horrible for showing us how to do things

[@1981therealfury]

Loved the episode, Dave, your skills both in building and flying are unbelievable, love to watch you at work :). I do feel that this should be in addition to the normal episodes though, need the comedy and personality of the usual material as well. Question on the Super Cub, would you rate this plane as suitable for a trainer for a complete novice (without mods that is) or what would you say is the best trainer out there right now? Thanks a lot and keep up the excellent work :)

[@matthewelyash6538]

Cont. Beyond that, if you MUST do more of these cause Joe has to sleep sometime, and you need to increase content, I think you have to figure out a way to get some closeups. Maybe if your doing gopro, do multi angle shots with specific points to get your sync right, hide a Hero 3 in close for better detail, something!!! It would add some Post efforts, (I know Premier allows multi-camera timelines) but looking at a 26 min static shot is not cutting it. Explore if you must, but don't stray to far.

[@matthewelyash6538]

I assumed you did this because you were at Joe Nall, but if your considering this as a regular format, I think it is ill advised. The content did hold me thru the whole episode, but I must be honest, it was a struggle not to stop half way, no a third of the way thru. The video looks like everybody else's "I got a go Pro now I am gonna do time laps builds videos. What sets you apart is your production values, editing and such. Do many of these and you will hurt your rep and loose viewers.

[@RobB_VK6ES]

Most of the don't like replies are missing the point. This was a video on some modifications to an existing kit for intermediate builders not a hand holding exercise. Any builder considering these mods should have some prior experience. The other reason for this format is simply cost. Yes it would be great if there was a cameraman and sound recordist etc. but unless you have been living in a cave you should know FT is doing it tough these days. A talk to camera is cheap but gets the point across

[@mrubin0818]

I have a suggestion, i did this mod to mine, but add lights... It was so amazing flying at night! The airplane looks incredible! It also really helped orient the plane in those difficult situations. Basically it was almost a foam flyzone beaver. Please let us know what davids throws are. Also please keep up mods on popular airplanes too, everyone has a super cub lp and mods are always welcome. Keep it up!

[@CharlieOscar602]

Good work guys! So many people customize these Cubs, nice to see your take on it. I just did ailerons and a Park480 on mine as well. Swings a 10x7, and its a bit overkill. I dig the idea of changing the format of some of the episodes, but I think a lot of people would have liked some more detail shots on the more important part of this build. I would love to see a series of videos themed on improving or modding some of the more common planes that everyone seems to have.

[@RCHobbyist463]

They have a great article if you go to their website and search: "Getting Into Flying RC Aircraft On A Budget" I highly recommend the Horizon Hobby Champ because it is one of the most economical Ready to Fly airplanes that still is of perfect hobby-grade quality. If you have a lot of money to start off and know a few local rc experts, the Eflite Apprentice is a great choice for the wind!

[@tinkerrbill]

Narrated format with speedup of repetitive sections or slow applications works great! It comes across like 2 relaxed friends sharing! Only 1 more thing I would have liked, a slow sim-walk around the plane. Perhaps you could build a simple slow turn table & place plane on it. Setup camera height to scale as if doing walkaround of real plane, turn camera & t-table on, & bingo, sim-walk around! It would enhance overall build doing something like that & if it comes out good, do on other builds also?

[@ARedCatJoe]

I had just finished putting a new motor in my cub (its second Park 450 and third motor overall) when I came upstairs, checked KZbin, and saw this video. Thanks to Horizon for producing such a wonderful airplane, (mine is one of the really old NiMh ones and I still love it) though I agree it should come with a brushless. Also, thank you Flite Test for making such a excellent build video. I like the format.

[@TheSlashfan21]

I personally prefer the video-formats that you usually show but I still enjoyed this one. I will try out the hot-glue hinges for sure! :) Besides from that I have a topic suggestion. Could you make a video in which you give tips to build/assemble an EPP-Flying-Wing properly? e.g.: How to tape the wing nicely and how to reinforce it in the best way. I always have problems with air-bubbles under the tape... That would be really cool! :)

[@EchoChick2009]

Thanks 4 the ideas! Thot i wold keep it simple and start by jst adding FLAPS to my Super Cubby and change out the motor and add ailerons later. The thing is,,,, Iam new at this and judging by how long it took me to get the Spinner off (with help from my brother even) it will probally take 6 months B4 i finish? I pulled and pryed and pushed and jerked and twisted but the Spinner still din't come off? u got it off in 1/4 second in the video:)